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Title: The Carbon Tax Was Not A Factor In The Decision. Post by imcrookonit on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:14am
Alcoa contradicts Joe Hockey on reasons for smelter shutdown. :(
Date February 19, 2014 Aluminium manufacturer Alcoa has contradicted federal government claims that the carbon tax led to the decision to shut the company's Point Henry smelter and two rolling mills in Geelong and western Sydney. Treasurer Joe Hockey and Mr Macfarlane both blamed the tax for the loss of nearly 1000 jobs. But in a statement a company spokeswoman confirmed ''the carbon tax was not a factor in the decision''. :P Prime Minister Tony Abbott and Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane were due to fly to Melbourne on Wednesday to meet Victorian Premier Denis Napthine after the latest manufacturing job losses. Mr Napthine has previously flagged a wish-list of infrastructure projects he wanted fast-tracked. The meeting was confirmed late on Tuesday after doubts that an initial standoff between the offices of the prime minister and the premier. The federal government is finalising its review of manufacturing in Victoria and South Australia, prompted by Holden's decision in December to quit manufacturing. Mr Hockey had said Alcoa's decision was ''disappointing'', but ''predictable'' and linked it to the carbon price introduced by Labor, which he said added to the high cost of production. He called on Labor to back the repeal of the tax. ''The carbon tax adds to the cost of production. It does, no matter what people say. You cannot say the carbon tax helps with producing things in Australia,'' he said. ''At the end of the day, the carbon tax is a greater cost on business. It is a massive cost on aluminium smelters, obviously. A 50-year-old smelter with a carbon tax is never going to be cost-effective.'' Alcoa had been exempt from 94.5 per cent of its carbon tax liability for its smelting operations as a so-called emissions intensive trade-exposed industry. The decision to shut the Point Henry plant came after the company placed the plant under strategic review in February 2012, ahead of the introduction of the carbon price on July 1, 2012. Announcing the review in 2012, Alcoa's managing director, Alan Cransberg, said the carbon tax would increase pressure on the company's operations at Point Henry, but said the review had not been prompted by the tax. The Point Henry operation was subsequently thrown a $40 million lifeline in June 2012 by the former federal Labor and Victorian governments, but the cash injection had not been enough to help keep the company operating. Opposition Leader Bill Shorten called on the Abbott government to roll out an assistance package for Alcoa workers. Mr Shorten, who has been calling on the federal government to unveil a plan for Australian jobs, said the closure was devastating news for workers in Yennora and particularly Geelong, which had already been hit hard by Ford's decision last year to quit making cars. ''It's clear that a global oversupply of aluminium, dramatically falling aluminium prices and a high Australian dollar made the continuation of these operations impossible,'' he said. Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/alcoa-contradicts-joe-hockey-on-reasons-for-smelter-shutdown-20140218-32yir.html#ixzz2thoqam38 |
Title: Re: The Carbon Tax Was Not A Factor In The Decision. Post by Kat on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:33am
Saw Hockey on TV last night, frothing at the mouth, scowling, red of
face, shouting about how 'the carbon tax' and Labor was to blame. He looked and sounded like exactly what he is. A dangerous and ignorant fool. |
Title: Re: The Carbon Tax Was Not A Factor In The Decision. Post by Bam on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:39am
Hockey claims unions and workers were responsible for Toyota ending car manufacturing. Toyota refutes this.
Hockey claims the carbon tax was responsible for Alcoa closing some plants. Alcoa refutes this. Anyone else see a pattern here? |
Title: Re: The Carbon Tax Was Not A Factor In The Decision. Post by ImSpartacus2 on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:42am Kat wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:33am:
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Title: Re: The Carbon Tax Was Not A Factor In The Decision. Post by ImSpartacus2 on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:43am Kat wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:33am:
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Title: Re: The Carbon Tax Was Not A Factor In The Decision. Post by Dnarever on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:58am
With the senior Liberals it is difficult to tell if they lack honesty, intelligence or both.
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Title: Re: The Carbon Tax Was Not A Factor In The Decision. Post by Grendel on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:46am
Sorry.... but Aluminium...
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The Carbon Tax, and the other measures Labor has implemented which has caused the cost of electricity to rise... has had an effect. I heard somewhere that the smelter uses almost a 3rd of Victoria's power. A bit far fetched but we do have these comments on it. Quote:
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Title: Re: The Carbon Tax Was Not A Factor In The Decision. Post by Doctor Jolly on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:15am
They lack honesty.
A few years ago, you could trust moderates like Turnbull and Hockey. Now it seems they have totally discredited themselves. Its very disappointing. |
Title: Re: The Carbon Tax Was Not A Factor In The Decision. Post by crocodile on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:16am
Aluminium world prices are only a third of what they were a few years back. That alone is the reason for the closure.
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Title: Re: The Carbon Tax Was Not A Factor In The Decision. Post by dsmithy70 on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:24am
I just wonder what the excuse will be if they do repeal the tax.
In the interest of their own skin you think they'd keep it. |
Title: Re: The Carbon Tax Was Not A Factor In The Decision. Post by John Smith on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:28am Grendel wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:46am:
what you think is irrelevant ... if the CEO says it wasn't a factor, then it wasn't a factor ... why do you struggle with that? |
Title: Re: The Carbon Tax Was Not A Factor In The Decision. Post by John Smith on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:29am Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:24am:
I think there is a very good chance ... especially if the senate vote goes against Abbott in WA, he'll have a ready made excuse and he'll jump on it. |
Title: Re: The Carbon Tax Was Not A Factor In The Decision. Post by GeorgeH on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:31am
Alcoa was exempt from the carbon tax, ergo it was not the reason.
Maybe we should offer to set up a Westinghouse nuclear reactor for them—cheap power. But that isn’t the reason. The world is basically in recession with even China slowing down. We are about to join the world by applying the discredited austerity measures and chasing away the car makers. |
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