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Message started by bogarde73 on Feb 19th, 2014 at 3:06pm

Title: Operation Paperclip
Post by bogarde73 on Feb 19th, 2014 at 3:06pm
Not a new story but a new book is out by Annie Jacobs (?) which details the secret operation to transfer the best of the Nazi scientists to the US after the war.
The man who invented the ear thermometer was a Nazi doctor who worked in the camps. When he died at age 90 he got a glowing obituary in the NY Times.
Werner von Braun was celebrated for his work in designing the rockets which took the astronauts to the moon. He was also in the SS and had personally selected workers from Buchenwald to work at the V1/V2 rocket sites.
The chemical weapons which are being removed now from Syria were developed in the US by Nazi chemists.

It's all very interesting.

Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by it_is_the_light on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:20pm
many blessings ,

as the majority now research these facts

which are true ie : maxim of law .

consequently these criminals are being arrested

around the world as we continue to observe

and so it is so be it

namaste

- : ) =


Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by Pastafarian on Feb 20th, 2014 at 8:53am

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:20pm:
many blessings ,

as the majority now research these facts

which are true ie : maxim of law .

consequently these criminals are being arrested

around the world as we continue to observe

and so it is so be it

namaste

- : ) =



Name me one scientist in Operation Paperclip whos been arrested

Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by cods on Feb 20th, 2014 at 9:52am

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 3:06pm:
Not a new story but a new book is out by Annie Jacobs (?) which details the secret operation to transfer the best of the Nazi scientists to the US after the war.
The man who invented the ear thermometer was a Nazi doctor who worked in the camps. When he died at age 90 he got a glowing obituary in the NY Times.
Werner von Braun was celebrated for his work in designing the rockets which took the astronauts to the moon. He was also in the SS and had personally selected workers from Buchenwald to work at the V1/V2 rocket sites.
The chemical weapons which are being removed now from Syria were developed in the US by Nazi chemists.

It's all very interesting.




oh dear not a good look.....I presume it comes with evidence and not just speculation.. whats the book called bogy?

Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by cods on Feb 20th, 2014 at 9:53am
oops unless Operation Paperclip is the title of the book.. ::) ::)

Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by it_is_the_light on Feb 20th, 2014 at 9:57am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 8:53am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:20pm:
many blessings ,

as the majority now research these facts

which are true ie : maxim of law .

consequently these criminals are being arrested

around the world as we continue to observe

and so it is so be it

namaste

- : ) =



Name me one scientist in Operation Paperclip whos been arrested


many blessings ,

yet firstly I will allow you

to document here your full understanding of evidence

pertaining to operation paperclip ,

a factual event that has taken place upon your biosphere

namaste

- : ) =


Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by gizmo_2655 on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:35am

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 9:57am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 8:53am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:20pm:
many blessings ,

as the majority now research these facts

which are true ie : maxim of law .

consequently these criminals are being arrested

around the world as we continue to observe

and so it is so be it

namaste

- : ) =



Name me one scientist in Operation Paperclip whos been arrested


many blessings ,

yet firstly I will allow you

to document here your full understanding of evidence

pertaining to operation paperclip ,

a factual event that has taken place upon your biosphere

namaste

- : ) =



So, that means that like the 'mass freemason arrests' and the arrest warrant for the Pope, this hasn't happened either, and none of the Paperclip scientists have been arrested but you dream that will happen??

Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by life_goes_on on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:40am

Quote:
and none of the Paperclip scientists have been arrested


Would any still be alive?
Any that were aged in their 20's in 1939 would be near 100 years old now.

Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by aquascoot on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:43am
I think , from memory, Bayer, a very large pharma, also made zyclon B.

It would be interesting to know if, from an ethical POV, the research done in the camps by the doctors was destroyed, or is , in fact, available for use

Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by life_goes_on on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:46am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:43am:
I think , from memory, Bayer, a very large pharma, also made zyclon B.

It would be interesting to know if, from an ethical POV, the research done in the camps by the doctors was destroyed, or is , in fact, available for use


The research data and results mostly survived, but there is a ban on them being used.
I think the ban has been in place since at least the 1950s.

Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by Winston Smith on Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:06am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:35am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 9:57am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 8:53am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:20pm:
many blessings ,

as the majority now research these facts

which are true ie : maxim of law .

consequently these criminals are being arrested

around the world as we continue to observe

and so it is so be it

namaste

- : ) =



Name me one scientist in Operation Paperclip whos been arrested


many blessings ,

yet firstly I will allow you

to document here your full understanding of evidence

pertaining to operation paperclip ,

a factual event that has taken place upon your biosphere

namaste

- : ) =



So, that means that like the 'mass freemason arrests' and the arrest warrant for the Pope, this hasn't happened either, and none of the Paperclip scientists have been arrested but you dream that will happen??


Think of it as a superposition of uncertain possibilities which allow enough flexibility whereby the best possible outcomes for any variables you may consider, may come to pass simultaneously as you consider the bigger picture and reforge it through the crucible of your being.

Your empathy for the victims of 'bad things' will ensure you reach the limits of your tolerance of what is acceptable in your reality and your fear can turn to love as you realise through this flexibility, a way for each variable to be upheld in the most positive light.

It may not necessarily be like that for you, free will is part of that flexibility, but I think that's a rough blueprint by which each of us may contribute our best wishes for the improvements to the overall narrative. Isn't it a more pleasing story when everyone gets the happiest of endings?

Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by life_goes_on on Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:09am

Quote:
Isn't it a more pleasing story when everyone gets the happiest of endings?


That's why Backdoor Babes 3 is better than Backdoor Babes 2.

Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by sherri on Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:11am

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 3:06pm:
Not a new story but a new book is out by Annie Jacobs (?) which details the secret operation to transfer the best of the Nazi scientists to the US after the war.
The man who invented the ear thermometer was a Nazi doctor who worked in the camps. When he died at age 90 he got a glowing obituary in the NY Times.
Werner von Braun was celebrated for his work in designing the rockets which took the astronauts to the moon. He was also in the SS and had personally selected workers from Buchenwald to work at the V1/V2 rocket sites.
The chemical weapons which are being removed now from Syria were developed in the US by Nazi chemists.

It's all very interesting.


I can remember reading a while ago about many of the scientists being transferred. not in that particular book, obviously, but in some other article.
I suppose it depends on what the individual scientists did during the war. If they were personally into torture or sadistic experiments then they should have  stood trial as far as I am concerned.
But if they simply got on with working for the Nazis, even on weapons or whatever, then you can't blame the US for wanting  their expertise. The Nazi era was a blot on the human landscape but there is no denying that a lot of the German scientists were gifted people.

You know, I think the Germans were very lucky the war in Europe ended when it did actually, as another few weeks and the Americans would have been ready with their atomic bombs. And they would have used it too.

I doubt many scientists from ww2, or anyone in any important positions anyway, would be alive any more. My dad was in the navy, he was only 19 when the war ended, but he would be turning 89 this year, had he still been alive. That generation is almost gone. Within our lifetime there may be no one left who has any personal memory of the second world war.


Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by Pastafarian on Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:50am

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:46am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:43am:
I think , from memory, Bayer, a very large pharma, also made zyclon B.

It would be interesting to know if, from an ethical POV, the research done in the camps by the doctors was destroyed, or is , in fact, available for use


The research data and results mostly survived, but there is a ban on them being used.
I think the ban has been in place since at least the 1950s.




Well some. High altitude testing on Jews helped the space programs.

Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by Frances on Feb 20th, 2014 at 12:18pm

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:06am:
Isn't it a more pleasing story when everyone gets the happiest of endings?


So, I take it that you enjoy happy endings?

Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by it_is_the_light on Feb 20th, 2014 at 12:23pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:35am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 9:57am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 8:53am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:20pm:
many blessings ,

as the majority now research these facts

which are true ie : maxim of law .

consequently these criminals are being arrested

around the world as we continue to observe

and so it is so be it

namaste

- : ) =



Name me one scientist in Operation Paperclip whos been arrested


many blessings ,

yet firstly I will allow you

to document here your full understanding of evidence

pertaining to operation paperclip ,

a factual event that has taken place upon your biosphere

namaste

- : ) =



So, that means that like the 'mass freemason arrests' and the arrest warrant for the Pope, this hasn't happened either, and none of the Paperclip scientists have been arrested but you dream that will happen??


please stay on topic here

as you have been asked a question so as

to establish jurisprudence in your understanding

and what you believe to be true from the title thread .

its a simple request .. and then

, and then one such as I am will elaborate upon anything

you may have left out ...

so lets begin when you are ready ..

namaste

- : ) =



Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by it_is_the_light on Feb 20th, 2014 at 12:27pm

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:06am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:35am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 9:57am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 8:53am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:20pm:
many blessings ,

as the majority now research these facts

which are true ie : maxim of law .

consequently these criminals are being arrested

around the world as we continue to observe

and so it is so be it

namaste

- : ) =



Name me one scientist in Operation Paperclip whos been arrested


many blessings ,

yet firstly I will allow you

to document here your full understanding of evidence

pertaining to operation paperclip ,

a factual event that has taken place upon your biosphere

namaste

- : ) =



So, that means that like the 'mass freemason arrests' and the arrest warrant for the Pope, this hasn't happened either, and none of the Paperclip scientists have been arrested but you dream that will happen??


Think of it as a superposition of uncertain possibilities which allow enough flexibility whereby the best possible outcomes for any variables you may consider, may come to pass simultaneously as you consider the bigger picture and reforge it through the crucible of your being.

Your empathy for the victims of 'bad things' will ensure you reach the limits of your tolerance of what is acceptable in your reality and your fear can turn to love as you realise through this flexibility, a way for each variable to be upheld in the most positive light.

It may not necessarily be like that for you, free will is part of that flexibility, but I think that's a rough blueprint by which each of us may contribute our best wishes for the improvements to the overall narrative. Isn't it a more pleasing story when everyone gets the happiest of endings?


many blessings ,

as one such as I am observes the complexification

of DNA and the intellect of divine mind and heart

cascade throughout many beings now

in these moments according to ones definition

regarding the spacetime and timespace continui

much gratitude for your divine wisdoms

namaste !

-: ) =


Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by gizmo_2655 on Feb 20th, 2014 at 12:34pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:35am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 9:57am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 8:53am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:20pm:
many blessings ,

as the majority now research these facts

which are true ie : maxim of law .

consequently these criminals are being arrested

around the world as we continue to observe

and so it is so be it

namaste

- : ) =



Name me one scientist in Operation Paperclip whos been arrested


many blessings ,

yet firstly I will allow you

to document here your full understanding of evidence

pertaining to operation paperclip ,

a factual event that has taken place upon your biosphere

namaste

- : ) =



So, that means that like the 'mass freemason arrests' and the arrest warrant for the Pope, this hasn't happened either, and none of the Paperclip scientists have been arrested but you dream that will happen??


please stay on topic here

as you have been asked a question so as

to establish jurisprudence in your understanding

and what you believe to be true from the title thread .

its a simple request .. and then

, and then one such as I am will elaborate anything

you may have left out ...

so lets begin when you are ready ..

namaste

- : ) =



I am on topic

Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by it_is_the_light on Feb 20th, 2014 at 12:37pm
many blessings

so go ahead

and provide your argument upon the title thread

and produce your knowledge upon this thread ,

as you have made assertions and now back away

for you realize you will be exposed for what you are

with forgiveness and compassion unto you

namaste

- : ) =


Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by Winston Smith on Feb 20th, 2014 at 12:50pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 12:27pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:06am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:35am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 9:57am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 8:53am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:20pm:
many blessings ,

as the majority now research these facts

which are true ie : maxim of law .

consequently these criminals are being arrested

around the world as we continue to observe

and so it is so be it

namaste

- : ) =



Name me one scientist in Operation Paperclip whos been arrested


many blessings ,

yet firstly I will allow you

to document here your full understanding of evidence

pertaining to operation paperclip ,

a factual event that has taken place upon your biosphere

namaste

- : ) =



So, that means that like the 'mass freemason arrests' and the arrest warrant for the Pope, this hasn't happened either, and none of the Paperclip scientists have been arrested but you dream that will happen??


Think of it as a superposition of uncertain possibilities which allow enough flexibility whereby the best possible outcomes for any variables you may consider, may come to pass simultaneously as you consider the bigger picture and reforge it through the crucible of your being.

Your empathy for the victims of 'bad things' will ensure you reach the limits of your tolerance of what is acceptable in your reality and your fear can turn to love as you realise through this flexibility, a way for each variable to be upheld in the most positive light.

It may not necessarily be like that for you, free will is part of that flexibility, but I think that's a rough blueprint by which each of us may contribute our best wishes for the improvements to the overall narrative. Isn't it a more pleasing story when everyone gets the happiest of endings?


many blessings ,

as one such as I am observes the complexification

of DNA and the intellect of divine mind and heart

cascade throughout many beings now

in these moments according to ones definition

regarding the spacetime and timespace continui

much gratitude for your divine wisdoms

namaste !

-: ) =



Thanks, sorry if I appear to butt in. The possibilities are exciting.

Title: Re: Operation Paperclip
Post by gizmo_2655 on Feb 20th, 2014 at 12:57pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 12:37pm:
many blessings

so go ahead

and provide your argument upon the title thread

and produce your knowledge upon this thread ,

as you have made assertions and now back away

for you realize you will be exposed for what you are

with forgiveness and compassion unto you

namaste

- : ) =



No need to comment on the thread title. I accept that Operation Paperclip did happen. I was just commenting on your usual rubbish statement about non-existent arrests/criminal charges.

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