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Message started by True Blue... on Feb 20th, 2014 at 1:39pm

Title: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by True Blue... on Feb 20th, 2014 at 1:39pm

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HOW many more manufacturing workers must be sacked, thanks to green policies that only pretend to stop global warming? 
 
How many of the jobless won’t be able to heat or cool their homes, with these same mad policies helping to hike power prices by 110 per cent in only five years?

And all this pain to make no difference to the world’s temperature. What a fraud.

True, the carbon tax and less-known Renewable Energy Target did not themselves kill Alcoa’s Point Henry smelter or Toyota’s Australian plants this month.

But the carbon tax alone cost Alcoa $137 million last year. How brainless is that, when its Australian smelters were already battling to survive competition from leaner competitors overseas?

The carbon tax also cost Toyota $115 a car. How stupid is that, when Australian-made cars were already struggling to compete against cheaper imports?

Apologists for the carbon tax claim it’s nothing compared with everything else smashing our manufacturers — a high dollar, green tape, crazy workplace restrictions and bloody-minded unions.

But it’s a straw breaking the back of a lot of camels.

Last year Penrice Soda quit making soda ash, sacking 60 people and leaving unpaid the $1 million it owes under the carbon tax it claims was indeed that final straw.

Grain Products Australia sacked half its 68 employees, saying the carbon tax and other green levies cost it $500,000 a year.

Packaging giant Amcor cut 160 workers at its Petrie mill, telling them the carbon tax was in part to blame, costing $400,000 in one year.

In 2012, Norsk Hydro shut its Kurri Kurri aluminium smelter and sacked 300 workers, blaming not only a high dollar and low prices but saying its “long-term viability will be negatively affected by ... increasing energy costs and the carbon tax”.

None of this was an accident. When the Gillard Government designed its “Strong Growth, Low Pollution” policy, carbon tax included, it produced Treasury costings showing the output of the electricity-intensive aluminium industry would fall 61.7 per cent by 2050.

And when Alcoa announced this week it would indeed close its Point Henry smelter, former Chief Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery said this was just the price we had to pay to save us from a “filthy” planet.

Around Australia, businesses are paying this “price”. They struggle with power bills that were once the lowest in the developed world but are now among the highest, in part because of policies to make coal-fired electricity so expensive that we use less of it.

Electricity bills (electricity Bill) for business have jumped almost 80 per cent since 2009. How many jobs has that cost?

And think of all those other failed and rorted global warming schemes we’ve had to pay for — the solar hot water rebates, the Green Loans scheme, the free insulation disaster, the solar cities program, the solar power subsidies.

Think of the millions Labor lost in grants to white elephants, like the $300 million to the Global Carbon Capture and Storage Institute and the $90 million for Geodynamics, whose shareholders include Tim Flannery, a spruiker of the geothermal technology which proved a dud here.

You’d weep at the waste.

No wonder many people now demand we stop this vandalism, especially with unemployment now hitting 6 per cent.

Australians have already voted in a new Abbott Government promising to scrap the carbon tax, although Labor and the Greens still use their numbers in the Senate to save it.  >:(

The Government also announced this week that business leader Dick Warburton, a sceptic, would head a review on the Renewable Energy Target.

This RET forces electricity companies to source some of their supplies from “green” power such as expensive solar and wind farms, costing the average family $102 a year.

But few Australians yet realise these schemes aren’t just unaffordable but mad, making zero difference to the temperature they are meant to lower.

Well, not exactly zero. Victoria University’s Professor Roger Jones, a warmist, figured the carbon tax could lower the world’s temperature in 2100 by just 0.0038 of one degree. what?  :o

Other experts think it would been even less, since the world’s temperature hasn’t risen now in 16 years, suggesting our emissions don’t make as much difference as once thought.

But consider. Think of the thousands of companies struggling to keep afloat. Think of the sacked workers and your soaring bills.

We’re suffering like this so we can cut the world’s temperature by so little that no one could even measure it?

Mad. This global warming craze has destroyed not just our industries but our reason.


and people still vote for the moronic Labrat/Greentard parties?

you have to be joking...  ::)

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Rubin on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:16pm
1 job lost every three minutes since the liberal took over the government. None of the big companies closing down or down sizing have blamed the carbon tax.
Name one policy decision the liberals have made that has equaled jobs. Keep in mind we didn't even lose job at this rate during the GFC.

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Greens_Win on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:18pm
link :
a blogs opinion piece from andrew bolt.


Shouldn't this be in the extremist section?




Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Innocent bystander on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:19pm

Rubin wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:16pm:
1 job lost every three minutes since the liberal took over the government. None of the big companies closing down or down sizing have blamed the carbon tax.
Name one policy decision the liberals have made that has equaled jobs. Keep in mind we didn't even lose job at this rate during the GFC.


According to ABC fact check lost manufacturing jobs have halved under the Libs ... so suck on that losers  ;D

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Innocent bystander on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:21pm

____ wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:18pm:
link :
a blogs opinion piece from andrew bolt.


Shouldn't this be in the extremist section?



You should be in the extremist section ... but only because there is no gibberingly retarded basket case section   ;D

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Rubin on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:23pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:19pm:

Rubin wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:16pm:
1 job lost every three minutes since the liberal took over the government. None of the big companies closing down or down sizing have blamed the carbon tax.
Name one policy decision the liberals have made that has equaled jobs. Keep in mind we didn't even lose job at this rate during the GFC.


According to ABC fact check lost manufacturing jobs have halved under the Libs ... so suck on that losers  ;D


If you are talking manufacturing it was 1 job lost every 22 mins under labor 1 job lost every 19 mins under liberals, neither figure is good but certainly no improvement under liberal but they aren't doing to much worse in than labor did in that sector.

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Innocent bystander on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:25pm

Rubin wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:23pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:19pm:

Rubin wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:16pm:
1 job lost every three minutes since the liberal took over the government. None of the big companies closing down or down sizing have blamed the carbon tax.
Name one policy decision the liberals have made that has equaled jobs. Keep in mind we didn't even lose job at this rate during the GFC.


According to ABC fact check lost manufacturing jobs have halved under the Libs ... so suck on that losers  ;D


If you are talking manufacturing it was 1 job lost every 22 mins under labor 1 job lost every 19 mins under liberals



Stop pulling your dick otherwise I will put up the fact check video and embarrass you ... sh*t for brains!.

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Doctor Jolly on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:38pm
Andrew Bolt!.

;D :D

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Greens_Win on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:40pm
Rubin, you don't have to put up with the abuse.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1372331874

Just sent a private message to a moderator with a link with the abuse.

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Rubin on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:45pm
Put it on

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Rubin on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:47pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

Rubin wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:23pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:19pm:

Rubin wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:16pm:
1 job lost every three minutes since the liberal took over the government. None of the big companies closing down or down sizing have blamed the carbon tax.
Name one policy decision the liberals have made that has equaled jobs. Keep in mind we didn't even lose job at this rate during the GFC.


According to ABC fact check lost manufacturing jobs have halved under the Libs ... so suck on that losers  ;D


If you are talking manufacturing it was 1 job lost every 22 mins under labor 1 job lost every 19 mins under liberals



Stop pulling your dick otherwise I will put up the fact check video and embarrass you ... sh*t for brains!.

Put it one  I don't watch tele but I read abs stats

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Innocent bystander on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:48pm

____ wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:40pm:
Rubin, you don't have to put up with the abuse.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1372331874

Just sent a private message to a moderator with a link with the abuse.



Yep, you have completely lost the debate altogether so time for some censorship hey  ;D

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Innocent bystander on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:50pm

Rubin wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:47pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

Rubin wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:23pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:19pm:

Rubin wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:16pm:
1 job lost every three minutes since the liberal took over the government. None of the big companies closing down or down sizing have blamed the carbon tax.
Name one policy decision the liberals have made that has equaled jobs. Keep in mind we didn't even lose job at this rate during the GFC.


According to ABC fact check lost manufacturing jobs have halved under the Libs ... so suck on that losers  ;D


If you are talking manufacturing it was 1 job lost every 22 mins under labor 1 job lost every 19 mins under liberals



Stop pulling your dick otherwise I will put up the fact check video and embarrass you ... sh*t for brains!.

Put it one  I don't watch tele but I read abs stats



Dyslexic much?, save up a few more dole checks and maybe you can get a "tele" and broaden your horizons loser.  ;D

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Rubin on Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:01pm

____ wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:40pm:
Rubin, you don't have to put up with the abuse.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1372331874

Just sent a private message to a moderator with a link with the abuse.

I'm not upset offended or threatened by bystanders insecurities. Unlike him I have opened minded view on ozpolitics and I'm not one a one party voter both parties are equally responsible for where we find ourselves today this has been forty years in the making

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Rubin on Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:03pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:50pm:

Rubin wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:47pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

Rubin wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:23pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:19pm:

Rubin wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:16pm:
1 job lost every three minutes since the liberal took over the government. None of the big companies closing down or down sizing have blamed the carbon tax.
Name one policy decision the liberals have made that has equaled jobs. Keep in mind we didn't even lose job at this rate during the GFC.


According to ABC fact check lost manufacturing jobs have halved under the Libs ... so suck on that losers  ;D


If you are talking manufacturing it was 1 job lost every 22 mins under labor 1 job lost every 19 mins under liberals



Stop pulling your dick otherwise I will put up the fact check video and embarrass you ... sh*t for brains!.

Put it one  I don't watch tele but I read abs stats



Dyslexic much?, save up a few more dole checks and maybe you can get a "tele" and broaden your horizons loser.  ;D

Put on this fact checker video that you say, says that the libs have slowed job losses in manufacturing by half.

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Pastafarian on Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:15pm
So what does this have to do with Flannery?

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Dnarever on Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:21pm
OH look my coffee has gone cold - must be the carbon tax.

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Rubin on Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:23pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:21pm:
OH look my coffee has gone cold - must be the carbon tax.

Must be what else could it be?

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Rubin on Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:25pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:50pm:

Rubin wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:47pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

Rubin wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:23pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:19pm:

Rubin wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:16pm:
1 job lost every three minutes since the liberal took over the government. None of the big companies closing down or down sizing have blamed the carbon tax.
Name one policy decision the liberals have made that has equaled jobs. Keep in mind we didn't even lose job at this rate during the GFC.


According to ABC fact check lost manufacturing jobs have halved under the Libs ... so suck on that losers  ;D


If you are talking manufacturing it was 1 job lost every 22 mins under labor 1 job lost every 19 mins under liberals



Stop pulling your dick otherwise I will put up the fact check video and embarrass you ... sh*t for brains!.

Put it on I don't watch tele but I read abs stats



Dyslexic much?, save up a few more dole checks and maybe you can get a "tele" and broaden your horizons loser.  ;D


Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Innocent bystander on Feb 21st, 2014 at 3:38am
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1392917725/0#0

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by True Blue... on Feb 21st, 2014 at 5:45am

____ wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:18pm:
link :
a blogs opinion piece from andrew bolt.


Shouldn't this be in the extremist section?


if you can disprove the facts then go ahead...

but it appears you can't, and, wont be able to as they are FACT>..

yet again when you have no argument you start throwing in red herrings or go crying to the admins for censorship...

take responsibility for your grubby deals with the Labrats for destroying manufacturing in Australia with your idiotic policies...

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1392917725/0#0

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by cods on Feb 21st, 2014 at 7:29am

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:21pm:

____ wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:18pm:
link :
a blogs opinion piece from andrew bolt.


Shouldn't this be in the extremist section?



You should be in the extremist section ... but only because there is no gibberingly retarded basket case section   ;D

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

he wont get it though... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

but it was good for a laugh..

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by cods on Feb 21st, 2014 at 7:30am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:21pm:
OH look my coffee has gone cold - must be the carbon tax.




I will remember that one dna.... for someone who blames the LIBS for everything.. thats so RICH>>. ;D ;D ;D..

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Doctor Jolly on Feb 21st, 2014 at 10:03am

Its more like...

My coffee has gone cold..... this proves global warming is a hoax as Peter Flannery said my coffee would never go cold in a warmed world.

Axe the tax. Ditch the witch.

Title: Re: Flannery laughs at Businesses Closing due to CTax
Post by Doctor Jolly on Feb 21st, 2014 at 10:04am

True Blue... wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 5:45am:

____ wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:18pm:
link :
a blogs opinion piece from andrew bolt.


Shouldn't this be in the extremist section?


if you can disprove the facts then go ahead...

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He hasnt presented any facts.

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