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Message started by Herbert on Feb 21st, 2014 at 8:10am

Title: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 21st, 2014 at 8:10am
What do you know?

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by John Smith on Feb 21st, 2014 at 8:16am
everything

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Winston Smith on Feb 21st, 2014 at 8:27am
I worked in the patio/carport (colorbond steel structures) game for 5 or 6 years.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by mozzaok on Feb 21st, 2014 at 9:16am

John Smith wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 8:16am:
everything


We must be related, so do I.

Actually, I don't play with house wiring, but Carpentry is my trade, and cos of Renos, you soon learn to do lots of things pretty well. I paint as good as all but the very best trade painters, I tile better than most tilers, plastering is monkey work, any imbo can do that, but I must admit to being a pretty crummy bricklayer.
Oh well can't be great at everything, it makes ordinary people feel way to inferior.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 21st, 2014 at 9:20am

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 8:27am:
I worked in the patio/carport (colorbond steel structures) game for 5 or 6 years.


I'm impressed. Those sheets can cut your hands deeply if you lose your concentration for a moment.

All on me lonesome I put up a 180cm colorbond fence down the side of my property.

Those panels weren't easy to jostle into the top and bottom channels. I could design something a lot better for the home handyman to put up himself.


Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 21st, 2014 at 9:31am

mozzaok wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 9:16am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 8:16am:
everything


We must be related, so do I.

Actually, I don't play with house wiring, but Carpentry is my trade, and cos of Renos, you soon learn to do lots of things pretty well. I paint as good as all but the very best trade painters, I tile better than most tilers, plastering is monkey work, any imbo can do that, but I must admit to being a pretty crummy bricklayer.
Oh well can't be great at everything, it makes ordinary people feel way to inferior.


You're just the man I want a couple of hints from:

I will pay GOLD to anyone who can point me the way to grouting for the shower cubicle ceramic tiles that don't attract mould and darken-up to look bloody awful.

GOLD.

Hint: Don't even think of directing me to the tile section of my local Bunnings. I've used every damn grouting product they have there ~ with all of them failing. I even painted that liquid stuff onto fresh grouting which absorbs into it and crystalises to form a hard shell that's supposed to prevent mould forming.

Useless as tits on a bull.

I used special silicones besides the usual grouting. Mould forms under the silicone ... so all the silicone has to be removed again.

I went to Bunnings to get some of that special shower cubicle waterproof panelling that is embossed to look like tiles ... good stuff but it would cost me $400 for two sheets plus a $75 delivery charge.

I've been taking showers in my bath for months now while I decide what to do.


Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Redmond Neck on Feb 21st, 2014 at 10:51am
I come from an electronics techo background and still like to play around with that a bit in between restoring my old Alfa and my BMW boxer motorbike.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Winston Smith on Feb 21st, 2014 at 11:04am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 9:20am:

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 8:27am:
I worked in the patio/carport (colorbond steel structures) game for 5 or 6 years.


I'm impressed. Those sheets can cut your hands deeply if you lose your concentration for a moment.

All on me lonesome I put up a 180cm colorbond fence down the side of my property.

Those panels weren't easy to jostle into the top and bottom channels. I could design something a lot better for the home handyman to put up himself.


Yes, the wind can take them easily also.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Kat on Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:56pm

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 11:04am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 9:20am:

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 8:27am:
I worked in the patio/carport (colorbond steel structures) game for 5 or 6 years.


I'm impressed. Those sheets can cut your hands deeply if you lose your concentration for a moment.

All on me lonesome I put up a 180cm colorbond fence down the side of my property.

Those panels weren't easy to jostle into the top and bottom channels. I could design something a lot better for the home handyman to put up himself.


Yes, the wind can take them easily also.


Seen that done.

Poor bugger holding it nearly took off like a hang-glider.

Anyway, I've done a bit of construction work over the years, and can turn my hand to
most things.

I tend to get a lot of painting work, one job is pretty regular (a motel, so there's always
maintenance to be done).

I'm a qualified welder, and have many years experience repairing bicycles, motorcycles
and small engines (mowers etc). And I worked for several years as a printer, running and
maintaining both web-fed and sheet-fed offset presses, and can also perform darkroom
and compositing duties.

Oh, and I worked in the mining industry as a subcontract pipe-fitter for four years, with
my own crew.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by mozzaok on Feb 21st, 2014 at 1:34pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 9:31am:

mozzaok wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 9:16am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 8:16am:
everything


We must be related, so do I.

Actually, I don't play with house wiring, but Carpentry is my trade, and cos of Renos, you soon learn to do lots of things pretty well. I paint as good as all but the very best trade painters, I tile better than most tilers, plastering is monkey work, any imbo can do that, but I must admit to being a pretty crummy bricklayer.
Oh well can't be great at everything, it makes ordinary people feel way to inferior.


You're just the man I want a couple of hints from:

I will pay GOLD to anyone who can point me the way to grouting for the shower cubicle ceramic tiles that don't attract mould and darken-up to look bloody awful.

GOLD.

Hint: Don't even think of directing me to the tile section of my local Bunnings. I've used every damn grouting product they have there ~ with all of them failing. I even painted that liquid stuff onto fresh grouting which absorbs into it and crystalises to form a hard shell that's supposed to prevent mould forming.

Useless as tits on a bull.

I used special silicones besides the usual grouting. Mould forms under the silicone ... so all the silicone has to be removed again.

I went to Bunnings to get some of that special shower cubicle waterproof panelling that is embossed to look like tiles ... good stuff but it would cost me $400 for two sheets plus a $75 delivery charge.

I've been taking showers in my bath for months now while I decide what to do.


Good Luck Herb, but so far nothing works really well against mould.
Ventilation and trying to maintain a dry environment is the theoretical answer, but if you live in tropical climes, you've no chance of ever achieving that.
Tea tree oil and Vinegar are good for cleaning mould.
Proprietary anti-fungal additives are not worth a pinch of poop in my experience, like they reduce growth by some small amount probably, so it lasts 6 weeks before mould grows, instead of 5, at least that is my experience.
If it is bad, you have to remove all the old grout and sealant, and wash down well with sugar soap, or bleach, or white vinegar with tea tree oil mixed in, the tea tree oil being the agent that seems to kill mould spores best. Then redo with new grout, then wipe over with tea tree oil vinegar regularly to stop it coming back.

Using Grey Grout can look nice, and give you a chance of looking decent for longer between cleans, and not showing up minor stains when they do appear.

Sorry there is no magic bullet for this problem I know of.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 21st, 2014 at 1:51pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 10:51am:
I come from an electronics techo background and still like to play around with that a bit in between restoring my old Alfa and my BMW boxer motorbike.


Name-dropper ...  :P



Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 21st, 2014 at 1:59pm

mozzaok wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 1:34pm:
Sorry there is no magic bullet for this problem I know of.


Armstrong on the moon ... (in a back-lot of the 20th Century Fox studio in Burbank, California) ... and STILL the boffins can't invent a grout that is toxic to fungi.

Guess wot? I don't believe it. I think they have a commercial interest in keeping grouting needing replacing every 3 to 5 years.

I'm going to buy the waterproof panelling... cut it to size ... Liquid Nail it to the existing ceramic tile walls, and then ceremonially chuck out all my bottles of 'EXIT MOULD' and etc.


Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 21st, 2014 at 2:03pm

Kat wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:56pm:
I'm a qualified welder,


Learnt at the Tech in Sydney's Ultimo St in the Haymarket? I can still smell the fumes and hear the crackling and sputtering of the flux being blown away from the electrodes.




Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Winston Smith on Feb 21st, 2014 at 2:09pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 1:59pm:

mozzaok wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 1:34pm:
Sorry there is no magic bullet for this problem I know of.


Armstrong on the moon ... (in a back-lot of the 20th Century Fox studio in Burbank, California) ... and STILL the boffins can't invent a grout that is toxic to fungi.

Guess wot? I don't believe it. I think they have a commercial interest in keeping grouping needing replacing every 3 to 5 years.

I'm going to buy the waterproof panelling... cut it to size ... Liquid Nail it to the existing ceramic tile walls, and then ceremonially chuck out all my bottles of 'EXIT MOULD' and etc.


In some paradigms, waste can be a good thing. Not seeing it in this one though, more like race to the bottom.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 21st, 2014 at 2:26pm

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 2:09pm:
In some paradigms, waste can be a good thing. Not seeing it in this one though, more like race to the bottom.


There is absolutely no way there isn't a toxic grouting they can invent which is safe for humans but herbicidal to fungi of any sort.

Someone invented Vegemite and Aeroplane Jelly.

It's now time for someone to do a little home-chemistry and concoct a type of cement that is totally resistant to fungal growth.

How about mixing a little radioactive material in there? (No need to tell the customers).  8-) Make a fortune.

(Did Coca Cola tell the customers what Ingredient X was? No they didn't, and the government never made them print it on their labels either).





Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Redmond Neck on Feb 21st, 2014 at 2:48pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 1:51pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 10:51am:
I come from an electronics techo background and still like to play around with that a bit in between restoring my old Alfa and my BMW boxer motorbike.


Name-dropper ...  :P


They are old and only worth a couple of grand each Herb hardly dropping much apart from the marque.

We all have dreams though!

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Winston Smith on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:32am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 2:26pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 2:09pm:
In some paradigms, waste can be a good thing. Not seeing it in this one though, more like race to the bottom.


There is absolutely no way there isn't a toxic grouting they can invent which is safe for humans but herbicidal to fungi of any sort.

Someone invented Vegemite and Aeroplane Jelly.

It's now time for someone to do a little home-chemistry and concoct a type of cement that is totally resistant to fungal growth.

How about mixing a little radioactive material in there? (No need to tell the customers).  8-) Make a fortune.

(Did Coca Cola tell the customers what Ingredient X was? No they didn't, and the government never made them print it on their labels either).


I would agree with you, if a living organism wasn't involved. I agree that there are too junk products being produced. Perhaps there is a useful niche for them I am not seeing. I have a feeling that niche is to exploit the undiscerning buyer. The fact life evolves, probably means that it's impossible to stop the Fungi indefinately.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:55am

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:32am:
The fact life evolves, probably means that it's impossible to stop the Fungi indefinately.


A few years ago I used a bright white silicone to fill a smallish area where the grouting had washed away from about 5 inches of gap between tiles on the shower cubicle floor.

Yeeeeeeears later, that silicone 'grouting' is as brightly white, unstained, and free of any mould above or under it as the day I used the cartridge gun to squeeze it into place.

And do you think I can remember the stuff I used ... ? No way. I've tried other brightly white silicones without success. A mould always takes root under the bead of the silicone run.

I'm thinking of mixing some diluted Glysophate 360 in with a new batch of grouting powder. It's a very powerful herbicide.



 

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Winston Smith on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 5:20am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:55am:

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:32am:
The fact life evolves, probably means that it's impossible to stop the Fungi indefinately.


A few years ago I used a bright white silicone to fill a smallish area where the grouting had washed away from about 5 inches of gap between tiles on the shower cubicle floor.

Yeeeeeeears later, that silicone 'grouting' is as brightly white, unstained, and free of any mould above or under it as the day I used the cartridge gun to squeeze it into place.

And do you think I can remember the stuff I used ... ? No way. I've tried other brightly white silicones without success. A mould always takes root under the bead of the silicone run.

I'm thinking of mixing some diluted Glysophate 360 in with a new batch of grouting powder. It's a very powerful herbicide.



 


Sounds like evolution to me. I think we need to find a more balanced way of existing in our environment. If we become to focused on one thing, something else has to give. The more high impact the solution, the shorter the effective lifespan. The more subtle the solution, the longer it will remain viable. Herbicide is for plants by the way, I am not sure how effective that will be on fungi. Silicone probably traps moisture more than grout, that could also be a problem. Perhaps a darker grout is a better solution.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 5:36am

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 5:20am:
Perhaps a darker grout is a better solution.


I checked this out at Bunnings again yesterday ~ and it would look absolutely hideous to have grey or black grouting in the shower cubicle.

All the same crap was on the shelves from years ago. Nothing new. No patented newly invented grouting material. The same old crap that needs to be sprayed with 'EXIT MOULD' in millions of houses around the world.

It's unbelievable. It really is unbelievable.

I know that big companies keep an eye out for new patents at the patents office so as to quickly buy them up and shelve them if they look as though they might threaten the future sale of their products.

Does mould and fungi grow on fresh water fish, eels, turtles, frogs, crocodiles, etc? No it doesn't. Their skin secretes a substance that prevents this ...

There might be an industry in putting cane toads by the ton into giant industrial-sized blenders ... 'juicing' them .... and incorporating the fungicide into grouting.  :)

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Winston Smith on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 6:34am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 5:36am:

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 5:20am:
Perhaps a darker grout is a better solution.


I checked this out at Bunnings again yesterday ~ and it would look absolutely hideous to have grey or black grouting in the shower cubicle.

All the same crap was on the shelves from years ago. Nothing new. No patented newly invented grouting material. The same old crap that needs to be sprayed with 'EXIT MOULD' in millions of houses around the world.

It's unbelievable. It really is unbelievable.

I know that big companies keep an eye out for new patents at the patents office so as to quickly buy them up and shelve them if they look as though they might threaten the future sale of their products.

Does mould and fungi grow on fresh water fish, eels, turtles, frogs, crocodiles, etc? No it doesn't. Their skin secretes a substance that prevents this ...

There might be an industry in putting cane toads by the ton into giant industrial-sized blenders ... 'juicing' them .... and incorporating the fungicide into grouting.  :)


The evolutionary interaction is probably going on 'behind the scenes' or on a higher level within the biota. So they will always be relatively close to the leading edge. The ultimate solution will probably be some type of biological 'living' surface that keeps itself sterile and comes in a variety of colours.

Until we figure out how to evolve and incorporate these types of solutions into our bigger picture, perhaps we will have to settle for less pleasing solutions, until we can convert the higher impact, short lifespan 'patches' into a lasting integrated solutions. I see fresh and elegant engineering developments on the horizon.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 6:41am
The ultimate answer is to use a product that doesn't need any grouting at all ...

... and so ... link  ...  :)

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Deathridesahorse on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 6:51am

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 2:48pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 1:51pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 10:51am:
I come from an electronics techo background and still like to play around with that a bit in between restoring my old Alfa and my BMW boxer motorbike.


Name-dropper ...  :P


They are old and only worth a couple of grand each Herb hardly dropping much apart from the marque.

We all have dreams though!

My Dad did up and AJS with a sidecar a while back: feels a bit wobbly in that sidecar but!!  ::) :o :o :o :o  :)

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Winston Smith on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 7:13am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 6:41am:
The ultimate answer is to use a product that doesn't need any grouting at all ...

... and so ... link  ...  :)


I think the space age solutions have high environmental impact, I'm sure there's a more elegant solution floating around in our junk DNA just waiting to be discovered. :)

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Redmond Neck on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:00am

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 6:51am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 2:48pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 1:51pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 10:51am:
I come from an electronics techo background and still like to play around with that a bit in between restoring my old Alfa and my BMW boxer motorbike.


Name-dropper ...  :P


They are old and only worth a couple of grand each Herb hardly dropping much apart from the marque.

We all have dreams though!

My Dad did up and AJS with a sidecar a while back: feels a bit wobbly in that sidecar but!!  ::) :o :o :o :o  :)


Maybe its dads riding style....LOL

Lovely to feel the wind in your face and smell the odours of your surroundings from the flowers to the dead kangaroo.

Nothing beats it!

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by John Smith on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 9:19am

mozzaok wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 1:34pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 9:31am:

mozzaok wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 9:16am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 8:16am:
everything


We must be related, so do I.

Actually, I don't play with house wiring, but Carpentry is my trade, and cos of Renos, you soon learn to do lots of things pretty well. I paint as good as all but the very best trade painters, I tile better than most tilers, plastering is monkey work, any imbo can do that, but I must admit to being a pretty crummy bricklayer.
Oh well can't be great at everything, it makes ordinary people feel way to inferior.


You're just the man I want a couple of hints from:

I will pay GOLD to anyone who can point me the way to grouting for the shower cubicle ceramic tiles that don't attract mould and darken-up to look bloody awful.

GOLD.

Hint: Don't even think of directing me to the tile section of my local Bunnings. I've used every damn grouting product they have there ~ with all of them failing. I even painted that liquid stuff onto fresh grouting which absorbs into it and crystalises to form a hard shell that's supposed to prevent mould forming.

Useless as tits on a bull.

I used special silicones besides the usual grouting. Mould forms under the silicone ... so all the silicone has to be removed again.

I went to Bunnings to get some of that special shower cubicle waterproof panelling that is embossed to look like tiles ... good stuff but it would cost me $400 for two sheets plus a $75 delivery charge.

I've been taking showers in my bath for months now while I decide what to do.


Good Luck Herb, but so far nothing works really well against mould.
Ventilation and trying to maintain a dry environment is the theoretical answer, but if you live in tropical climes, you've no chance of ever achieving that.
Tea tree oil and Vinegar are good for cleaning mould.
Proprietary anti-fungal additives are not worth a pinch of poop in my experience, like they reduce growth by some small amount probably, so it lasts 6 weeks before mould grows, instead of 5, at least that is my experience.
If it is bad, you have to remove all the old grout and sealant, and wash down well with sugar soap, or bleach, or white vinegar with tea tree oil mixed in, the tea tree oil being the agent that seems to kill mould spores best. Then redo with new grout, then wipe over with tea tree oil vinegar regularly to stop it coming back.

Using Grey Grout can look nice, and give you a chance of looking decent for longer between cleans, and not showing up minor stains when they do appear.

Sorry there is no magic bullet for this problem I know of.


I have to agree with Mozzoak, the best thing to do to prevent mould on your grout is lots of sunlight, lots of fresh air, and regular cleaning.

If it's that bad that you need to regrout, don't even bother trying until you've killed of any exisitng mould,  ... and not just that which you can see, wash the whole bathroom down with diluted bleach for best results.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:08am
Thanks, Ferrari ~ but there's not a chance I'm going to spend any time scrubbing the shower walls. That's what wives are for. It's the sort of thing they like to do when they're not in the kitchen or the bedroom. 

At best I'll stand back and spray a little 'EXIT MOULD' and 'Anti-Soap Scum Build-up Remover' from an aerosol Pressur-Pak ~ (not the trigger-type that demands you have wrists like a tennis champion).  8-)

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:15am
On another matter, Bunnings still has some good tools in the segregated area that they reserve for expensive but quality tools.

I bought a couple of hacksaw blades yesterday made of a cobalt alloy. I've bought them before. Worth every penny.

ONE blade of this tough Cobalt/Carbon steel (from America?) sells for the same cost as 10 ordinary blades made in China.

Says it all.

Same with drill bits, chisels, and files, etc.

I'm always checking out garage sales to buy old tools made from good carbon steel. And antique shops.


Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Annie Anthrax on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:35am
I have two very well equipped toolboxes that were gifts from my husband. One is for general tools, one is for electrical tools like those special screwdrivers that don't carry voltage and a multimetre. I can rewire light switches and powerponts etc. I also rewired the thingy that the internet cables and telephone cords go into. I can change taps, door hinges and have recently gyprock'd a wall. All in all, I think I can handle most basic home maintenance.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 12:07pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:35am:
I have two very well equipped toolboxes that were gifts from my husband. One is for general tools, one is for electrical tools like those special screwdrivers that don't carry voltage and a multimetre. I can rewire light switches and powerponts etc. I also rewired the thingy that the internet cables and telephone cords go into. I can change taps, door hinges and have recently gyprock'd a wall. All in all, I think I can handle most basic home maintenance.


I'm impressed.

If you were living here I would ask you to re-rope the sash-window cords every time one of them broke.

The idiots who designed the old fashioned sash windows forgot that the cords would occasionally need replacing. It's been a hell of a job getting access to the broken cord and the piece of lead that they're attached to. You have to virtually smash your way into the channel on the side where the lead goes up and down.

Some idiot in charge of the sash-window factory back then in the 50's and before, said ~ "No Worries! Just seal up the channel and start doing the next one".

Over the years a lot of people have gone to their graves unpunished.



Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Annie Anthrax on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 12:12pm
You wouldn't want me there, Herbert. I learnt to do a few of these things for the first time while my husband was on the phone giving me instructions - the taps and working with the electricity. There were plenty of frustrated tears and impatient rumblings during the process - all from me of course - because it's never as straight forward as you think it will be. But a great sense of pride and the confidence of a new skill learnt when the jobs were done. Well worth it.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 12:42pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 12:12pm:
You wouldn't want me there, Herbert.


Yes I would.

If you didn't want to repair anything, at least you could give my shower cubicle a good scrubbing while I sat in the lounge room with my slippers on, a good pipe in my mouth, and the Financial Times in my hands ...

(And then I'd give you a small garden spade to clean the thick layers of grease out of the oven. I know you women LOVE being on your hands-and-knees in the service of pleasing the Master of the house).  8-)


Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 12:12pm:
... the taps and working with the electricity.


Please don't delay ... Get an electrician to install a safety device called an RCD in your outdoor Mains Box to help protect you against accidental electrical shock.

link


Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 12:12pm:
... frustrated tears and impatient rumblings during the process - all from me of course - because it's never as straight forward as you think it will be.


Tell me about it! My loud bawling sets all the neighbourhood dogs howling and the cats screaming in sympathy. And that's even before I've opened my tool-box. 

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by John Smith on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:58pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 12:07pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:35am:
I have two very well equipped toolboxes that were gifts from my husband. One is for general tools, one is for electrical tools like those special screwdrivers that don't carry voltage and a multimetre. I can rewire light switches and powerponts etc. I also rewired the thingy that the internet cables and telephone cords go into. I can change taps, door hinges and have recently gyprock'd a wall. All in all, I think I can handle most basic home maintenance.


I'm impressed.

If you were living here I would ask you to re-rope the sash-window cords every time one of them broke.

The idiots who designed the old fashioned sash windows forgot that the cords would occasionally need replacing. It's been a hell of a job getting access to the broken cord and the piece of lead that they're attached to. You have to virtually smash your way into the channel on the side where the lead goes up and down.

Some idiot in charge of the sash-window factory back then in the 50's and before, said ~ "No Worries! Just seal up the channel and start doing the next one".

Over the years a lot of people have gone to their graves unpunished.


actually, replacing the sash cord is relatviely easy ... and you have to remove the cover off the channel, not smash it ... thats what its there for. :D :D

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by John Smith on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 3:00pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:08am:
Thanks, Ferrari ~ but there's not a chance I'm going to spend any time scrubbing the shower walls. That's what wives are for. It's the sort of thing they like to do when they're not in the kitchen or the bedroom. 

At best I'll stand back and spray a little 'EXIT MOULD' and 'Anti-Soap Scum Build-up Remover' from an aerosol Pressur-Pak ~ (not the trigger-type that demands you have wrists like a tennis champion).  8-)


well now you know why you continually have mould on your grout, and unfortuantely, no product in the world will prevent your problem ...

your mould is caused by laziness and sexism  ... get of your backside and clean it you lazy twat

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Redmond Neck on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 3:20pm
Settle down JS

Herbie is worried about this ....

He has spent all day talking about it, boring us all to death...

Mould!!

Who gives a rats ass ...

Tell the missus (or girlfriend err boyfriend in some cases) to get off their ass and clean it

Sorry Herbie just joking!
;D

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Neferti on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:16pm
Herbie can't help it.  It's an age thing.  ;)



Grumpy: A study found men begin the unhappiest period when they hit 70, as they begin to suffer from bereavements, health problems and problems with not having a woman to "do" for them.

I am sure there is a pleasantly plump female around here who would be only too pleased to Char for you, Herb. All you have to do is ask, nicely. She'll even feed your pets and tend the garden.  8-)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565469/Looking-forward-stress-free-retirement-Dont-count-study-finds-men-grumpiest-hit-70.ht

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:19pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 3:20pm:
Settle down JS

Herbie is worried about this ....

He has spent all day talking about it, boring us all to death...

Mould!!

Who gives a rats ass ...

Tell the missus (or girlfriend err boyfriend in some cases) to get off their ass and clean it

Sorry Herbie just joking!
;D


I was going to submit a long dissertation on the effects of mould in certain enclosed environments, but now that you've told me it's a boring subject, well ...

So instead, I'm preparing an extensive thesis on the migrations of dung beetles in the Scottish Highlands during the winter time.



Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:23pm

Neferti wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:16pm:
Herbie can't help it.  It's an age thing.  ;)



Grumpy: A study found men begin the unhappiest period when they hit 70, as they begin to suffer from bereavements, health problems and problems with not having a woman to "do" for them.

I am sure there is a pleasantly plump female around here who would be only too pleased to Char for you, Herb. All you have to do is ask, nicely. She'll even feed your pets and tend the garden.  8-)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565469/Looking-forward-stress-free-retirement-Dont-count-study-finds-men-grumpiest-hit-70.ht


I've bookmarked it for reading later.

'Pleasantly plump woman'? ~ Are you kidding? Have you been watching My Kitchen Rules. There's an old bloke there with a flash new girlfriend not yet out of her 20's. Every night she feels Old Age creeping over her ....  :P

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Redmond Neck on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:48pm
What we all need is a Nigella ...Eh Herbie?

Spunkiest woman on TV in my opinion!!


Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:53pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:48pm:
What we all need is a Nigella ...Eh Herbie?

Spunkiest woman on TV in my opinion!!


Definitely not my type. A little too horsey-looking for my liking. She'd be telling you to "Gee-up!" in bed, with her on top, of course.

Samantha Armytage is more my type.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Redmond Neck on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:56pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:53pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:48pm:
What we all need is a Nigella ...Eh Herbie?

Spunkiest woman on TV in my opinion!!


Definitely not my type. A little too horsey-looking for my liking. She'd be telling you to "Gee-up!" in bed, with her on top, of course.



What a way to go!!!

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Neferti on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 5:06pm
Nigella is Jewish.  According to the program "Who Do you think you are?" she found her ancestry with the Ashkenazi Jews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigella_Lawson

Not that there is anything wrong with that. ::)

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Redmond Neck on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 6:01pm
I dont think that would be an issue, unless Jews do something disgusting that I am not familiar with!!

Gawd!!!

I am now worried!!

Perhaps I should shut up!!

;) ;)


Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 7:19pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:56pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:53pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:48pm:
What we all need is a Nigella ...Eh Herbie?

Spunkiest woman on TV in my opinion!!


Definitely not my type. A little too horsey-looking for my liking. She'd be telling you to "Gee-up!" in bed, with her on top, of course.



What a way to go!!!


Not when you feel her dig the stirrups in and bring the riding-crop down hard on your flanks.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by John Smith on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 7:19pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 7:19pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:56pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:53pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 4:48pm:
What we all need is a Nigella ...Eh Herbie?

Spunkiest woman on TV in my opinion!!


Definitely not my type. A little too horsey-looking for my liking. She'd be telling you to "Gee-up!" in bed, with her on top, of course.



What a way to go!!!


Not when you feel her dig the stirrups in and bring the riding-crop down hard on your flanks.


stop playing on your puta and go and clean your bathroom you grot

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 7:21pm

Neferti wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 5:06pm:
Nigella is Jewish.  According to the program "Who Do you think you are?" she found her ancestry with the Ashkenazi Jews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigella_Lawson

Not that there is anything wrong with that. ::)


She says she's an atheist. That's food for thought.  ::)

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 7:25pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 6:01pm:
I dont think that would be an issue, unless Jews do something disgusting that I am not familiar with!!

Gawd!!!

I am now worried!!

Perhaps I should shut up!!

;) ;)


Jewish women have to perform a little religious ceremony to make your goy penis kosher for them to chew on during love-making. If you go home missing a foreskin don't be at all surprised.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Kat on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:15pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:15am:
On another matter, Bunnings still has some good tools in the segregated area that they reserve for expensive but quality tools.

I bought a couple of hacksaw blades yesterday made of a cobalt alloy. I've bought them before. Worth every penny.

ONE blade of this tough Cobalt/Carbon steel (from America?) sells for the same cost as 10 ordinary blades made in China.

Says it all.

Same with drill bits, chisels, and files, etc.

I'm always checking out garage sales to buy old tools made from good carbon steel. And antique shops.


Never seen old tools made from antique shops before...  :P :P :P

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 24th, 2014 at 6:54am

Kat wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:15pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:15am:
I'm always checking out garage sales to buy old tools made from good carbon steel. And antique shops.


Never seen old tools made from antique shops before...  :P :P :P


Good morning Kat! Have a nice day.





Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by mozzaok on Feb 24th, 2014 at 7:43am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 12:07pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:35am:
I have two very well equipped toolboxes that were gifts from my husband. One is for general tools, one is for electrical tools like those special screwdrivers that don't carry voltage and a multimetre. I can rewire light switches and powerponts etc. I also rewired the thingy that the internet cables and telephone cords go into. I can change taps, door hinges and have recently gyprock'd a wall. All in all, I think I can handle most basic home maintenance.


I'm impressed.

If you were living here I would ask you to re-rope the sash-window cords every time one of them broke.

The idiots who designed the old fashioned sash windows forgot that the cords would occasionally need replacing. It's been a hell of a job getting access to the broken cord and the piece of lead that they're attached to. You have to virtually smash your way into the channel on the side where the lead goes up and down.

Some idiot in charge of the sash-window factory back then in the 50's and before, said ~ "No Worries! Just seal up the channel and start doing the next one".

Over the years a lot of people have gone to their graves unpunished.


lmao.

Everything is hard until you know how.
Replacing sash cords is a job alright, but you basically remove the beading running vertically up the inside of your window, tap in with a wide chisel until you crack the paint seal, then gently lever off.
This leaves the internal sahes hanging on their cords(or not if they've broken), so you can pull the whole sash out of the way. Then you have the "Parting Bead", that is the little bit that sits between the sahes at the front, and back, that they slide against, and this should never be nailed in, it is a pressure fit, that gets stuck up with paint, so you run a knife or sharp chisel down each side to break the seal, or tap with a sharp chisel, until the paint cracks, then you lever it out gently, don't break it.
After that, it's pretty easy, you've got the little panel near the bottom that now the parting bead is out, levers out easily, top first, as the bottom is angled.
Then get weights out, remove old cords from sahes, then cut new cords a little long, feed a lead weight on a string over the cord roller in the window frame, tie the new cord to the string, then pull back over the roller.
Now just nail cord into grooves in the sahes, making sure they are the right length. Repeat for all broken ones, and reassemble window.
If you are neat, you rarely need to even touch up the paint.

It is not an easy job, but that is how it's done.

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Kat on Feb 24th, 2014 at 9:19am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 6:54am:

Kat wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:15pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:15am:
I'm always checking out garage sales to buy old tools made from good carbon steel. And antique shops.


Never seen old tools made from antique shops before...  :P :P :P


Good morning Kat! Have a nice day.




Hmmm... Judging by your little smiley, you either didn't like my little play on words, or took it the wrong way...

Title: Re: Trades and DIY work
Post by Herbert on Feb 24th, 2014 at 10:14am

Kat wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 9:19am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 6:54am:

Kat wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:15pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:15am:
I'm always checking out garage sales to buy old tools made from good carbon steel. And antique shops.


Never seen old tools made from antique shops before...  :P :P :P


Good morning Kat! Have a nice day.




Hmmm... Judging by your little smiley, you either didn't like my little play on words, or took it the wrong way...


I was joking. Jesus. Sometimes I wonder why I bother.

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