I came across this website.

Can you give us your opinions on the accuracy of it Gandalf?
:)

www.halalchoices.com.au/index.html

The last census in Australia had atheists around 25% of our population, the fastest growing group of the religious and no religion option, do you think people really care about ancient superstitions in Australia?

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:30pm:

I came across this website. Can you give us your opinions on the accuracy of it Gandalf? :) www.halalchoices.com.au/index.html The last census in Australia had atheists around 25% of our population, the fastest growing group of the religious and no religion option, do you think people really care about ancient superstitions in Australia?

Good one, baron.

Poor Australian meat producers - being forced to pay this outrageous tax...

Hang on, no they're not.

Companies that sell halal products in Australia are perfectly free to say "bugger off - we're not getting halal certified ingredients thank you very much".

Yet they don't. Why is that Baron? Why for example do you think KFC purchases halal certified chicken, then ends up selling a non-halal product (because of the non-halal seasoning they add)?

Consumers are also perfectly free to boycott halal certified products - yet evidently they don't. The halal market is only growing.


Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:30pm:

do you think people really care about ancient superstitions in Australia?

Evidently not - it seems people simply don't give a sh!t about what stickers are attached to their meat packets - as long as its the same product. And if its too expensive, they'll stop buying it. Just ask FD - he'll explain to you that this is somehow not a textbook example of how capitalism is supposed to work in practice.

Yes, G, but those companies are anti-capitalist. Colonel Sanders in particular is famous for calling for a Moslem proletariat uprising.

I have no doubt that at least some of the funds that moslems receive from Halal certification in Australia, go to support Jihad 'operations' [ISLAMIC 'religious' violence] [to support Jihad 'operations' being directed particularly against Christians in other jurisdictions].




Halal meat is meat that has been offered/sacrificed to Allah, that is, sacrificed to the spirit deity of ISLAM, which moslems worship.

And it is the same deity, Allah, which has cursed Jews and Christians. [Koran 9.30]



Australian food manufacturers and the Australian food industry, who buy Halal certification are facilitating a form of spiritual idolatry of the Australian public, in directly supporting a philosophy/'religion' which hates the God of creation - and his [spiritual] children, Jews and Christians.

QUESTION;
Do i believe that the majority of Australians today even care, that in buying Halal certified foods, that they are aiding ISLAM, and facilitating ISLAMIC 'religious' violence against God's children ?

Sadly, no ?

But i do believe, that those among us who are giving tacit and material support to moslems and to ISLAM [through their wilful lack of personal responsibility], are aligning themselves, spiritually, with what ISLAM represents [in this material world and in the spirit realm].

But it is OK, we are simply sorting ourselves [spiritually], out of God's 'camp', and into the 'camp' of God's enemies.

What harm can there be, in that ?

But it is OK, because those are only spiritual things, and spiritual things are not real.       :P

Only this world, and the things that we can see and touch, are real.        :P






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Revelation 17:4
And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5  And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6  And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

Revelation 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5  For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Revelation 18:9
And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
10  Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
11  And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

2 Corinthians 6:15
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16  And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.


Ezekiel 34 ....speaks about community leaders who through, and because of, their own material greed, lead the people away from God's righteousness.

"Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand,...."


I believe that God is happy for us to make a buck, but not at the 'expense' of us doing things which are immoral, or by breaking God's laws.





Never old.

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polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 11:54am:

Poor Australian meat producers - being forced to pay this outrageous tax... Hang on, no they're not. Companies that sell halal products in Australia are perfectly free to say "bugger off - we're not getting halal certified ingredients thank you very much". Yet they don't. Why is that Baron? Why for example do you think KFC purchases halal certified chicken, then ends up selling a non-halal product (because of the non-halal seasoning they add)? Consumers are also perfectly free to boycott halal certified products - yet evidently they don't. The halal market is only growing. Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 10:30pm: do you think people really care about ancient superstitions in Australia? Evidently not - it seems people simply don't give a sh!t about what stickers are attached to their meat packets - as long as its the same product. And if its too expensive, they'll stop buying it. Just ask FD - he'll explain to you that this is somehow not a textbook example of how capitalism is supposed to work in practice.

Since you mentioned KFC i have been boycotting them for a while after seeing this video, i would have complained yet muslim unemployment is high so better to have him flipping burgers than on centrelink.

The sign on the fridge says Not Halal, i guess that only applies to the contents of the fridge, muslims are only 25% of the population in Punchbowl according to the census

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjnrbVxcRXw

Yadda wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 6:44pm:

I have no doubt that at least some of the funds that moslems receive from Halal certification in Australia, go to support Jihad 'operations' [ISLAMIC 'religious' violence] [to support Jihad 'operations' being directed particularly against Christians in other jurisdictions].

So you have no doubt, but do you have any evidence?


Yadda wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 6:44pm:

Australian food manufacturers and the Australian food industry, who buy Halal certification are facilitating a form of spiritual idolatry of the Australian public, in directly supporting a philosophy/'religion' which hates the God of creation - and his [spiritual] children, Jews and Christians.

Paul spoke pretty clearly on this regard.  There is nothing wrong with a Christian eating food that is used as part of Idolatry, as you should believe that no such deity exists in the first place, and is therefore "sacrificed" to nothing.

Sorry Baron, were you making a point there?

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 11:54am: Poor Australian meat producers - being forced to pay this outrageous tax... Hang on, no they're not. Companies that sell halal products in Australia are perfectly free to say "bugger off - we're not getting halal certified ingredients thank you very much". Yet they don't. Why is that Baron? Why for example do you think KFC purchases halal certified chicken, then ends up selling a non-halal product (because of the non-halal seasoning they add)? Consumers are also perfectly free to boycott halal certified products - yet evidently they don't. The halal market is only growing. Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 10:30pm: do you think people really care about ancient superstitions in Australia? Evidently not - it seems people simply don't give a sh!t about what stickers are attached to their meat packets - as long as its the same product. And if its too expensive, they'll stop buying it. Just ask FD - he'll explain to you that this is somehow not a textbook example of how capitalism is supposed to work in practice. Since you mentioned KFC i have been boycotting them for a while after seeing this video, i would have complained yet muslim unemployment is high so better to have him flipping burgers than on centrelink. The sign on the fridge says Not Halal, i guess that only applies to the contents of the fridge, muslims are only 25% of the population in Punchbowl according to the census http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjnrbVxcRXw

You [edit] who ridicules people trying to make a start for themselves.

I started as a 15 year old working years at maccas/ franklins at the like.I then built myself and went to uni,got a degree and now have a good job.

What you want 15-17 year old to do,start a uni degree?

Ray Hadley was a taxi driver early in his career,now he is a big radio presenter.

Kevin Rudd pushed patients around in a hospital then moved to politics.

Stratos wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 7:11pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 6:44pm: I have no doubt that at least some of the funds that moslems receive from Halal certification in Australia, go to support Jihad 'operations' [ISLAMIC 'religious' violence] [to support Jihad 'operations' being directed particularly against Christians in other jurisdictions]. So you have no doubt, but do you have any evidence?

I do not have access to any evidence, today.

But if evidence is revealed tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, that funds that moslems received from Halal certification in Australia, have been to support Jihad 'operations', will moslems the Kuffar then confess all ?i
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Yadda wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 6:44pm: Australian food manufacturers and the Australian food industry, who buy Halal certification are facilitating a form of spiritual idolatry of the Australian public, in directly supporting a philosophy/'religion' which hates the God of creation - and his [spiritual] children, Jews and Christians. Paul spoke pretty clearly on this regard.  There is nothing wrong with a Christian eating food that is used as part of Idolatry, as you should believe that no such deity exists in the first place, and is therefore "sacrificed" to nothing.

Stratos,

Perhaps you cannot believe it, but demons [evil 'angels'] do exist.


Part of the prophetic Song of Moses, describing Israel in the latter days;

Deuteronomy 32:15
But Jeshurun waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness; then he forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock of his salvation.
16  They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger.
17  They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.


Deuteronomy 31:29
For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands.


The sacrifice which is acceptable to God;

Psalms 51:17
The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

No need to display such humility, Y. If you don’t have any evidence, just say so.

That’s proof.

Just wondering though, when your evidence is revealled the day after tomorrow, will it consist of a sign saying, BEHEAD ALL THOSE WHO INSULT THE PROPHET?

Karnal wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 11:16pm:

Just wondering though, when your evidence is revealled the day after tomorrow, will it consist of a sign saying, BEHEAD ALL THOSE WHO INSULT THE PROPHET?

As you yourself have declared to us, K.



Karnal wrote on Jan 29^th, 2014 at 3:08pm:

Behead all those who insult the Prophet. I'm hardly an atheist, Y. I believe in Gud.

Karnal wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 11:16pm:

Just wondering though, when your evidence is revealled the day after tomorrow, will it consist of a sign saying, BEHEAD ALL THOSE WHO INSULT THE PROPHET?

Stratos wrote on Jan 29^th, 2014 at 5:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 29th, 2014 at 4:52pm: Yes, Stavros, but when they say peace, they actually mean war. We're through the looking glass now.  Your caricature is actually less extreme than that of an actual person.  Up your game karnal! no, wait I got this Shame Karnal, Shame

Yadda wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 8:02am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 11:16pm: Just wondering though, when your evidence is revealled the day after tomorrow, will it consist of a sign saying, BEHEAD ALL THOSE WHO INSULT THE PROPHET? As you yourself have declared to us, K. Karnal wrote on Jan 29th, 2014 at 3:08pm: Behead all those who insult the Prophet. I'm hardly an atheist, Y. I believe in Gud.

How about that? You've provided the evidence a day early, Y.

And using my own words too. Not bad.

Clear evidence that all money used to pay for Halal certification goes to terrorist organizations.

Here's one for future reference, Y:

BEHEAD ALL THOSE WHO INSULT THE PROPHET.

Hey Karnal, I think he missed the joke.....

Stratos wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 2:39pm:

Hey Karnal, I think he missed the joke.....

Y doesn’t miss a thing, Stavros. He believes in Gud.

Better not insult any prophets when you’re around Y, friends.

Those who hate God and his righteousness, are the joke.

Those who hate God and his righteousness, are the ones who, 'don't get it'.




Psalms 2:1
Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2  The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
3  Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4  He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Karnal wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 25th, 2014 at 8:02am: Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 11:16pm: Just wondering though, when your evidence is revealled the day after tomorrow, will it consist of a sign saying, BEHEAD ALL THOSE WHO INSULT THE PROPHET? As you yourself have declared to us, K. Karnal wrote on Jan 29th, 2014 at 3:08pm: Behead all those who insult the Prophet. I'm hardly an atheist, Y. I believe in Gud. How about that? You've provided the evidence a day early, Y. And using my own words too. Not bad. Clear evidence that all money used to pay for Halal certification goes to terrorist organizations. Here's one for future reference, Y: BEHEAD ALL THOSE WHO INSULT THE PROPHET.

Karnal, the court jester the OzPol jester;


Karnal wrote on Feb 21^st, 2014 at 10:12pm:

If I knew more about it, sure. Most of it bores me, to be honest, but I’m not a Muslim. I criticize many things I have an intimate knowledge of. Take my wife.

Oh, that Karnal!

He is hilarious !!!!

Ho, ho, ho!

It is to laugh.

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Yet they don't. Why is that Baron? Why for example do you think KFC purchases halal certified chicken, then ends up selling a non-halal product (because of the non-halal seasoning they add)?

Because the Indonesian and other governments ban the abattoirs from exporting if they don't do it. They then set up regional monopolies within Australia with sole permission to accredit those businesses, charge whatever they want (the more the better), and send the proceeds off to Muslim "organisations".

Gandalf why are you still trotting out this fabrication that the halal stickers are the result of some kind of free market mechanism?


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Yes, G, but those companies are anti-capitalist. Colonel Sanders in particular is famous for calling for a Moslem proletariat uprising.

Those companies are trying to stay in business Gandalf, not sacrifice themselves on the altar of free market capitalism. Do you still not get it?

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:19pm:

ecause the Indonesian and other governments ban the abattoirs from exporting if they don't do it.

Last I checked KFC is not an abattoir