I am unable to post links but you can find his offensive remarks on the ABc website in relation the General Campell. He is a grubby little man who is an embarrassment to the senate. So glad we Greens are no longer associated with grubs like this.

He should stick to sorting his red and brown undies.

Just read it.

Can't see a problem.

(And no, I'm not a fan of Conroy, and never have been).

Conroy is not a grub, he is not that good . The little turd has the guts of a green ant and has just lost the support of the ADF, ...nice one shithead

BTW Shorten should hunt him but having the guts of a Sunday morning poo..he wont ;D

Conroy is one of the dumbest grubs in the Labor party...   ::)

I don't like Conroy, but I fail to see how his questioning was out of line? This isn't a war, and I fail to see how providing information to the Australian people, information we rightly deserve to know, will help people smugglers? Especially, for instance, about the incident with the burning of the hands - how is telling us what happened on that boat going to help people smugglers? It's a rouse.

Grendel wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 9:46pm:

Conroy is one of the dumbest grubs in the Labor party...   ::)

I quite agree, but he's still streets ahead of anyone the Libs have.

Actually, I think the RAN would be pissed off with the simian and Morriscum.

Simian and Morriscum
Class act mate , hear that outside Centrelink did you  ::)  Stopped the boats full of wirras and sent a message to the indos that we are no longer an easy touch, whats not to like?

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:22pm:

Simian and Morriscum Class act mate , hear that outside Centrelink did you  ::)  Stopped the boats full of wirras and sent a message to the indos that we are no longer an easy touch, whats not to like?

It seems to amuse him for some reason. Like a baboon with his finger in his bum playing smell my finger with his comrades.

No, I like using simian it upsets the rightarded, especially those with combovers.

Greensprogress wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:24pm:

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 25th, 2014 at 10:22pm: Simian and Morriscum Class act mate , hear that outside Centrelink did you  ::)  Stopped the boats full of wirras and sent a message to the indos that we are no longer an easy touch, whats not to like? It seems to amuse him for some reason. Like a baboon with his finger in his bum playing smell my finger with his comrades.

But it does suit them so...

Kat wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:26pm:

Greensprogress wrote on Feb 25th, 2014 at 10:24pm: 5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 25th, 2014 at 10:22pm: Simian and Morriscum Class act mate , hear that outside Centrelink did you  ::)  Stopped the boats full of wirras and sent a message to the indos that we are no longer an easy touch, whats not to like? It seems to amuse him for some reason. Like a baboon with his finger in his bum playing smell my finger with his comrades. But it does suit them so...

Yes, the baboon with his finger in his ass does suit him or are you thinking of yourself sniffing his finger?

Yup, the pseudohuman and his pseudochristian mate.

I bet you bite your fingernails afterwards for a delicious snack. It would explain your breath and rotting teeth.

At least I have a full head of hair, baldy!

Someone showed me a picture of you. It's the pubes on your face you should be concerned about. They don't cover enough of your Neanderthal features.

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:34pm:

At least I have a full head of hair, baldy!

Another articulate well researched post by GH top stuff mate ,when you finish school your gunna go places , theres a centrelink office in most western towns ya know ;D Take your pick

Feel free to PM me for a pic of Georgy boy. He's got a head like a bucket full of smashed crabs yet he's trying to project one of his failings onto others. He thinks his plated back hairs to look like a pony tail is equal to a full head of hair.

She be right mate , I see enough dead beats at work, ..funny thing is they call us to sort out their poo for em... ;)

And a pony tail on a bloke should be a pre requisite for a floggin ;)

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 11:04pm:

She be right mate , I see enough dead beats at work, ..funny thing is they call us to sort out their poo for em... ;)

I must ask you to refrain from using words that the leftwingers here will find extremely offensive or they will report you and you might get banned. I've highlighted it above.

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 9:12pm:

Conroy is not a grub, he is not that good . The little turd has the guts of a green ant and has just lost the support of the ADF, ...nice one shithead

the Labrats and Greentards hate the Australian Defence Forces they've been attacking them for some time for doing their jobs of keeping Australia safe....

imagine the next time these scum parties will get into power... they'll slash our defence leaving our boarders open for invasion...

this is what they want mind... for every scumbag and no hoper to invade Australia and to bring in the terrorists...  >:(

what seat does Conroy hold... the guy is retarded... does this electorate like to help out special needs people and vote them into office??

Conroy (and Gillard) tried oh so hard to repress Freedom of Speech when that slug Conroy tried to introduce draconian legislation into Parliament when Labor was in office. Thankfully it wads defeated, even the Greens could see that one was a bomb waiting to go off.

Now, even on the Opposition Benches that pie eyed turd has treated our Defence Personnel worse that you would treat the junk yard dog.

He needs to be censored himself.

I have never supported or agreed with Conroy on anything.

Until now.

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:22pm:

Simian and Morriscum Class act mate , hear that outside Centrelink did you  ::)  Stopped the boats full of wirras and sent a message to the indos that we are no longer an easy touch, whats not to like?

It's all the left-wing nutjobs have left on this forum - schoolyard name calling because Morrison has shown just how totally and utterly incompetent Labor was at handling the issue of illegal immigrants for more than 5 years after Rudd turned a non-issue into a colossal problem. Labor had more than 5 years to stop the boats and three PM's, yet failed dismally. Morrison did it in less than 3 months. 'Nuff said!

I would give it a year or two before calling the policy a success. . .

Kat wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 9:53pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 25th, 2014 at 9:46pm: Conroy is one of the dumbest grubs in the Labor party...   ::) I quite agree, but he's still streets ahead of anyone the Libs have.

You'd only say that if you were totally biased.

Personally I think we've come to a point where our polity and apparently the bureaucracy is of the lowest standard and the dumbest we've had in my lifetime.

But I have to say that the Greens and the ALP are streets ahead of the Coalition.  Honestly, you just have to go through them 1 at a time.

Shorten agrees with Gillard no matter what, Conroy wears underwear on his head...  the list goes on and on....

What can be expected when you get the Lieberals using an armed forces representative as a political tool.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:06am:

What can be expected when you get the Lieberals using an armed forces representative as a political tool.

Ummm, the Navy is the primary agency being used in this operation, so it makes sense that a military officer would head the operation, as he would have a better operational understanding of what the Navy is and is not capable of doing for the government. :o

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:22pm:

Simian and Morriscum Class act mate , hear that outside Centrelink did you  ::)  Stopped the boats full of wirras and sent a message to the indos that we are no longer an easy touch, whats not to like?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:06am:

What can be expected when you get the Lieberals using an armed forces representative as a political tool.

can I ask who put the NAVY there in the first place???>. I dont think it was Abbott... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

I also remember krudd threatening Japan with the Navy if they hunted whales... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

then he found his white flag.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:21am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:06am: What can be expected when you get the Lieberals using an armed forces representative as a political tool. Ummm, the Navy is the primary agency being used in this operation, so it makes sense that a military officer would head the operation, as he would have a better operational understanding of what the Navy is and is not capable of doing for the government. :o

do we not expect out defence force to protect out borders now..... we only use them as a ferrying service...maybe.. 8-) 8-) 8-)

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:29am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:21am: Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:06am: What can be expected when you get the Lieberals using an armed forces representative as a political tool. Ummm, the Navy is the primary agency being used in this operation, so it makes sense that a military officer would head the operation, as he would have a better operational understanding of what the Navy is and is not capable of doing for the government. :o do we not expect out defence force to protect out borders now..... we only use them as a ferrying service...maybe.. 8-) 8-) 8-)

Well, Labor was using the Navy as a ferry service. The only thing missing was boarding passes.

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:06am: What can be expected when you get the Lieberals using an armed forces representative as a political tool. can I ask who put the NAVY there in the first place???>. I dont think it was Abbott... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) I also remember krudd threatening Japan with the Navy if they hunted whales... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D then he found his white flag.

Yeah, he pulled it out of his arse.

Are people actually being paid to be factional cheerleaders on forums such as this? Otherwise why are people spending their time spamming their cartoonish, bitter vitriol across the internet? To what end is this being done? Does it affect anything significantly? :-?

Are the emoticons some kind of code? Is there a hidden meaning to the number and type being used? This is very disturbing.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:21am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:06am: What can be expected when you get the Lieberals using an armed forces representative as a political tool. Ummm, the Navy is the primary agency being used in this operation, so it makes sense that a military officer would head the operation, as he would have a better operational understanding of what the Navy is and is not capable of doing for the government. :o

Quote:

Lieutenant General Angus John Campbell DSC, AM is a senior officer within the Australian Army, currently serving in the appointment of Commander Operation ...

What would an ARMY officer know about a Frigate.

If as you say the NAVY is the primary agency why not have an ADMIRAL in charge?

Perhaps none were willing to prostitute themselves as our fearless general seems to.

NATO 5.56? really?
What a man, you must be so hard, although I do prefer the 7.62
I prefer the skill of bolt actions rather than the juvenile "spray & pray"

You people are phucking sick & it says a lot of were this government is leading us that you feel comfortable enough to display you uneducated base level violence.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:39am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:21am: Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:06am: What can be expected when you get the Lieberals using an armed forces representative as a political tool. Ummm, the Navy is the primary agency being used in this operation, so it makes sense that a military officer would head the operation, as he would have a better operational understanding of what the Navy is and is not capable of doing for the government. :o Quote: Lieutenant General Angus John Campbell DSC, AM is a senior officer within the Australian Army, currently serving in the appointment of Commander Operation ... What would an ARMY officer know about a Frigate. If as you say the NAVY is the primary agency why not have an ADMIRAL in charge? Perhaps none were willing to prostitute themselves as our fearless general seems to. NATO 5.56? really? What a man, you must be so hard, although I do prefer the 7.62 I prefer the skill of bolt actions rather than the juvenile "spray & pray" You people are phucking sick & it says a lot of were this government is leading us that you feel comfortable enough to display you uneducated base level violence.

Does everything come down to sex with you? You have a disgusting mind!

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:38am:

Are the emoticons some kind of code? Is there a hidden meaning to the number and type being used? This is very disturbing.

it lightens the forum...win....dont get upset...it helps to show others that its tongue in cheek..

get over it.. what do you want... pistols at dawn????

this is called people communicating...we dont sit in pubs talking about the world anymore.. we sit on a computer..

you for instance have voiced your thoughts on what you think the forum is being used for..

its the same thing...

you are spitting out your vitriol. ;D ;D ;D

its the modern world to day.. we could all of course get soap boxes out.....where to put them thats the trick.

Just for dumbsmithy:

Lt Gen Campbell was chosen because of his experience. He was commander of Australian military operations in the Middle East and served in East Timor. He has also served as Deputy National Security Adviser. In short, he was chosen because he has the experience and gets things done. Whether there is another Naval officer who has similar experience, who knows? But clearly he was chosen because he has the experience for this type of operation.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:44am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:39am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:21am: Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:06am: What can be expected when you get the Lieberals using an armed forces representative as a political tool. Ummm, the Navy is the primary agency being used in this operation, so it makes sense that a military officer would head the operation, as he would have a better operational understanding of what the Navy is and is not capable of doing for the government. :o Quote: Lieutenant General Angus John Campbell DSC, AM is a senior officer within the Australian Army, currently serving in the appointment of Commander Operation ... What would an ARMY officer know about a Frigate. If as you say the NAVY is the primary agency why not have an ADMIRAL in charge? Perhaps none were willing to prostitute themselves as our fearless general seems to. NATO 5.56? really? What a man, you must be so hard, although I do prefer the 7.62 I prefer the skill of bolt actions rather than the juvenile "spray & pray" You people are phucking sick & it says a lot of were this government is leading us that you feel comfortable enough to display you uneducated base level violence. Does everything come down to sex with you? You have a disgusting mind!

Shows just how shallow you are teaspoon.


Quote:

pros·ti·tute [pros-ti-toot, -tyoot] Show IPA noun 1. a woman who engages in sexual intercourse for money; whore; harlot. 2. a man who engages in sexual acts for money. 3. a person who willingly uses his or her talent or ability in a base and unworthy way, usually for money. verb (used with object), pros·ti·tut·ed, pros·ti·tut·ing. 4. to sell or offer (oneself) as a prostitute. 5. to put to any base or unworthy use: to prostitute one's talents.

Whats the bet his on the Queens list next Australia Day for a OAM.

PROSTITUTE!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:49am:

Just for dumbsmithy: Lt Gen Campbell was chosen because of his experience. He was commander of Australian military operations in the Middle East(Land Based) and served in East Timor.(land Based) He has also served as Deputy National Security Adviser.(Desk Jockey) In short, he was chosen because he has the experience and gets things done. Whether there is another Naval officer who has similar experience, who knows? But clearly he was chosen because he has the experience for this type of operation(Naval Operation).

He got the job because he was willing to be used.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:51am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:44am: Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:39am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:21am: Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:06am: What can be expected when you get the Lieberals using an armed forces representative as a political tool. Ummm, the Navy is the primary agency being used in this operation, so it makes sense that a military officer would head the operation, as he would have a better operational understanding of what the Navy is and is not capable of doing for the government. :o Quote: Lieutenant General Angus John Campbell DSC, AM is a senior officer within the Australian Army, currently serving in the appointment of Commander Operation ... What would an ARMY officer know about a Frigate. If as you say the NAVY is the primary agency why not have an ADMIRAL in charge? Perhaps none were willing to prostitute themselves as our fearless general seems to. NATO 5.56? really? What a man, you must be so hard, although I do prefer the 7.62 I prefer the skill of bolt actions rather than the juvenile "spray & pray" You people are phucking sick & it says a lot of were this government is leading us that you feel comfortable enough to display you uneducated base level violence. Does everything come down to sex with you? You have a disgusting mind! Shows just how shallow you are teaspoon. [quote] pros·ti·tute [pros-ti-toot, -tyoot] Show IPA noun 1. a woman who engages in sexual intercourse for money; whore; harlot. 2. a man who engages in sexual acts for money. 3. a person who willingly uses his or her talent or ability in a base and unworthy way, usually for money verb (used with object), pros·ti·tut·ed, pros·ti·tut·ing. 4. to sell or offer (oneself) as a prostitute. 5. to put to any base or unworthy use: to prostitute one's talents.

Whats the bet his on the Queens list next Australia Day for a OAM.

PROSTITUTE![/quote]

Each of those five points fits you to a tee...

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:58am:

Each of those five points fits you to a tee...

So your out of rational well thought out responses in 2 posts?

Back to school yard name calling, what next threaten to beat me up?

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 9:02am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:58am: Each of those five points fits you to a tee... So your out of rational well thought out responses in 2 posts? Back to school yard name calling, what next threaten to beat me up?

No, rightards only beat up women.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:49am:

Just for dumbsmithy: Lt Gen Campbell was chosen because of his experience. He was commander of Australian military operations in the Middle East and served in East Timor. He has also served as Deputy National Security Adviser. In short, he was chosen because he has the experience and gets things done. Whether there is another Naval officer who has similar experience, who knows? But clearly he was chosen because he has the experience for this type of operation.

isnt it anarchy if a military persons disobeys his commander in chief  who happens to be the PM of the day?.. anyway.. and yet some mongrels call him a prostitute...but then I guess a leftie would know the meaning of that wouldnt they??..

how sad how bloody sad. :( :(

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:44am:

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:38am: Are the emoticons some kind of code? Is there a hidden meaning to the number and type being used? This is very disturbing. it lightens the forum...win....dont get upset...it helps to show others that its tongue in cheek.. get over it.. what do you want... pistols at dawn???? this is called people communicating...we dont sit in pubs talking about the world anymore.. we sit on a computer.. you for instance have voiced your thoughts on what you think the forum is being used for.. its the same thing... you are spitting out your vitriol. ;D ;D ;D its the modern world to day.. we could all of course get soap boxes out.....where to put them thats the trick.

So communication is about heaping abuse on people while pretending you're joking by adding a liberal dose of laughing, winking, leering, gloating representations of a smiling human face? :-/

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 9:41am:

its the same thing... you are spitting out your vitriol.    its the modern world to day.. we could all of course get soap boxes out.....where to put them thats the trick. So communication is about heaping abuse on people while pretending you're joking by adding a liberal dose of laughing, winking, leering, gloating representations of a smiling human face?

more or less..... ;) ;) ;) ;)

why are you on here???????????????????...what point are you making???????????

do you think this is about c&p and no opinions???????

is that what you are seeking????


I think the mods control some of the abuse...if you had a soap box you would still get abused....


why are you hear???.... just to criticise or maybe add a contribution..

you dont have to join in the abuse or use the smilies..

you can start your own forum and get rid of anyone that dares cross a line..... ::) ::)

thats sarcasm in smiley language..

sorry if it offends your sensitive nature.

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 9:57am:

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 9:41am: its the same thing... you are spitting out your vitriol.    its the modern world to day.. we could all of course get soap boxes out.....where to put them thats the trick. So communication is about heaping abuse on people while pretending you're joking by adding a liberal dose of laughing, winking, leering, gloating representations of a smiling human face? more or less..... ;) ;) ;) ;) why are you on here???????????????????...what point are you making??????????? do you think this is about c&p and no opinions??????? is that what you are seeking???? I think the mods control some of the abuse...if you had a soap box you would still get abused.... why are you hear???.... just to criticise or maybe add a contribution.. you dont have to join in the abuse or use the smilies.. you can start your own forum and get rid of anyone that dares cross a line..... ::) ::) thats sarcasm in smiley language.. sorry if it offends your sensitive nature.

Thank you for being honest about why you are here.

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 9:06am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:49am: Just for dumbsmithy: Lt Gen Campbell was chosen because of his experience. He was commander of Australian military operations in the Middle East and served in East Timor. He has also served as Deputy National Security Adviser. In short, he was chosen because he has the experience and gets things done. Whether there is another Naval officer who has similar experience, who knows? But clearly he was chosen because he has the experience for this type of operation. isnt it anarchy if a military persons disobeys his commander in chief  who happens to be the PM of the day?.. anyway.. and yet some mongrels call him a prostitute...but then I guess a leftie would know the meaning of that wouldnt they??.. how sad how bloody sad. :( :(

I thought you people liked plain speaking?

Calling a spade a spade is what I'm doing.

As proven by his appearance at the senate inquiry his nothing more than window dressing & his capitulation( or perhaps willing participation) is a disgrace to the Uniform.

His a prop for Morrison nothing else, otherwise he'd answer questions without looking for direction from Morrison or more correctly Credin.

And GET IT RIGHT, we are not the USA Tony is not the CC.
The person in charge of our military is a women(quick get the witch posters & comment on her fashion sense) the GOVERNOR GENERAL

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:39am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:21am: Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:06am: What can be expected when you get the Lieberals using an armed forces representative as a political tool. Ummm, the Navy is the primary agency being used in this operation, so it makes sense that a military officer would head the operation, as he would have a better operational understanding of what the Navy is and is not capable of doing for the government. :o Quote: Lieutenant General Angus John Campbell DSC, AM is a senior officer within the Australian Army, currently serving in the appointment of Commander Operation ... What would an ARMY officer know about a Frigate. If as you say the NAVY is the primary agency why not have an ADMIRAL in charge? Perhaps none were willing to prostitute themselves as our fearless general seems to. NATO 5.56? really? What a man, you must be so hard, although I do prefer the 7.62 I prefer the skill of bolt actions rather than the juvenile "spray & pray" You people are phucking sick & it says a lot of were this government is leading us that you feel comfortable enough to display you uneducated base level violence.

Frig you people are dishing upanextra big bucket of stupid today.  ;D

How does a dumb sh1t civvie know what the General does or does not know; just work on the fact you know 3 / 5ths of frig all and assume anything you believe to be friggen wrong.


Conroy was being a petulant child and was forced to retract his comment because it was stupid and childish; end of conversation.


>:(

If the toy soldier would answer legitimate questions then we would all be better informed. It is he secrecy that is the cause of concern.

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 10:39am:

If the toy soldier would answer legitimate questions then we would all be better informed. It is he secrecy that is the cause of concern.

No, the cause for concern is unwanted, uninvited, uncontrolled country shoppers using illegal people smuggling operations to smuggle them across Australia’s borders.

:)

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 10:17am:

cods wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 9:06am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:49am: Just for dumbsmithy: Lt Gen Campbell was chosen because of his experience. He was commander of Australian military operations in the Middle East and served in East Timor. He has also served as Deputy National Security Adviser. In short, he was chosen because he has the experience and gets things done. Whether there is another Naval officer who has similar experience, who knows? But clearly he was chosen because he has the experience for this type of operation. isnt it anarchy if a military persons disobeys his commander in chief  who happens to be the PM of the day?.. anyway.. and yet some mongrels call him a prostitute...but then I guess a leftie would know the meaning of that wouldnt they??.. how sad how bloody sad. :( :( I thought you people liked plain speaking? Calling a spade a spade is what I'm doing. As proven by his appearance at the senate inquiry his nothing more than window dressing & his capitulation( or perhaps willing participation) is a disgrace to the Uniform. His a prop for Morrison nothing else, otherwise he'd answer questions without looking for direction from Morrison or more correctly Credin. And GET IT RIGHT, we are not the USA Tony is not the CC. The person in charge of our military is a women(quick get the witch posters & comment on her fashion sense) the GOVERNOR GENERAL

HILARIOUS>>>


The ADF's legal standing draws on the executive government sections of the Australian Constitution. Section 51(vi) gives the Commonwealth Government the power to make laws regarding Australia's defence and defence forces. Section 114 of the Constitution prevents the States from raising armed forces without the permission of the Commonwealth and Section 119 gives the Commonwealth responsibility for defending Australia from invasion and sets out the conditions under which the government can deploy the defence force domestically.[6]
Section 68 of the Constitution sets out the ADF's command arrangements. The Section states that "the command in chief of the naval and military forces of the Commonwealth is vested in the Governor-General as the Queen's representative". In practice, however, the Governor-General does not play an active part in the ADF's command structure, and the elected Australian Government controls the ADF. The Minister for Defence and several subordinate ministers exercise this control. The Minister acts on most matters alone, though the National Security Committee of Cabinet (NSC) considers important matters. The Minister then advises the Governor-General who acts as advised in the normal form of executive government.[6]
Current priorities[edit]



you believe what the hell you like.,..I prefer this.

the thought of the GG sending our troops to war fills me with terror.

its symbolic cringe worthy.  ::) ::)

King or Queens..havent sent an army to invade since forever.

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 10:39am:

If the toy soldier would answer legitimate questions then we would all be better informed. It is he secrecy that is the cause of concern.

do you think you could do the "toy soldiers" job???

if so why are you sitting there? >:(

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 10:35am:

Frig you people are dishing upanextra big bucket of stupid today.  Grin How does a dumb sh1t civvie know what the General does or does not know; just work on the fact you know 3 / 5ths of frig all and assume anything you believe to be friggen wrong. Conroy was being a petulant child and was forced to retract his comment because it was stupid and childish; end of conversation.

Was he?

Perhaps he as I am, are disturbed by this governments lack of transparency.

How everything seems to be processed through the minsters office.

How information when wrong is left to linger for a week before we hear "I may have been misinformed". So that information is now accepted & regardless of the outcome of a report in 6 months people will still believe this man who was murdered inside our facility was a rioter outside & got what he deserved.

I used to belong to a country that was not afraid to shine a light on & have its endeavors reported on.

I actually respect your opinion on these matters(not entirely sure why), as one who has served aren't you at least a little uncomfortable in  the way the military is being used for political purposes?

Seems I moved without knowing it.

FriYAY wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 10:46am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 10:39am: If the toy soldier would answer legitimate questions then we would all be better informed. It is he secrecy that is the cause of concern. No, the cause for concern is unwanted, uninvited, uncontrolled country shoppers using illegal people smuggling operations to smuggle them across Australia’s borders. :)

What is the statistic you fanbois quote, 50K over 6 years? In that time we took in at least 1m migrants?

The ASs need to be screened for health and security but otherwise they are very small beer in terms of the total immigration numbers.

Hey Cods you missed highlighting this part

Section 68 of the Constitution sets out the ADF's command arrangements. The Section states that "the command in chief of the naval and military forces of the Commonwealth is vested in the Governor-General as the Queen's representative".



cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

the thought of the GG sending our troops to war fills me with terror.

Im sure you'll be much more comfortable once a man regains his rightful place.

FriYAY wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 10:46am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 10:39am: If the toy soldier would answer legitimate questions then we would all be better informed. It is he secrecy that is the cause of concern. No, the cause for concern is unwanted, uninvited, uncontrolled country shoppers using illegal people smuggling operations to smuggle them across Australia’s borders. :)

Does the smiley mean you know you are being disingenuous?


cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 10:48am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 10:39am: If the toy soldier would answer legitimate questions then we would all be better informed. It is he secrecy that is the cause of concern. do you think you could do the "toy soldiers" job??? if so why are you sitting there? >:(

Why have you presented a logical fallacy in response to what you have quoted?

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:29am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:21am: Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:06am: What can be expected when you get the Lieberals using an armed forces representative as a political tool. Ummm, the Navy is the primary agency being used in this operation, so it makes sense that a military officer would head the operation, as he would have a better operational understanding of what the Navy is and is not capable of doing for the government. :o do we not expect out defence force to protect out borders now..... we only use them as a ferrying service...maybe..

What we don't expect is to see a senior officer dangling like a puppet on a politicians strings sprouting the correct political line.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 10:17am:

And GET IT RIGHT, we are not the USA Tony is not the CC. The person in charge of our military is a women(quick get the witch posters & comment on her fashion sense) the GOVERNOR GENERAL

Actually the Queen is in charge, not some grub lawyer

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 10:50am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 10:35am: Frig you people are dishing upanextra big bucket of stupid today.  Grin How does a dumb sh1t civvie know what the General does or does not know; just work on the fact you know 3 / 5ths of frig all and assume anything you believe to be friggen wrong. Conroy was being a petulant child and was forced to retract his comment because it was stupid and childish; end of conversation. Was he? Perhaps he as I am, are disturbed by this governments lack of transparency. How everything seems to be processed through the minsters office. How information when wrong is left to linger for a week before we hear "I may have been misinformed". So that information is now accepted & regardless of the outcome of a report in 6 months people will still believe this man who was murdered inside our facility was a rioter outside & got what he deserved. I used to belong to a country that was not afraid to shine a light on & have its endeavors reported on. I actually respect your opinion on these matters(not entirely sure why), as one who has served aren't you at least a little uncomfortable in  the way the military is being used for political purposes? Seems I moved without knowing it.

Like you said it is the government, this bullsh1t about attacking the General is just that, he is doing his job, a hell of a lot better than some civvie idiot in the same position.

If you want to attack abbott and co, then do so, but don't be like conroy and attack the ADF for doing their job in difficult circumstances.

THe ADF has been used as a political tool by many governments over the years and labor has not been above using them to foce social issues so they can make their 'backers' happy.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:17am:

cods wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:29am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:21am: Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:06am: What can be expected when you get the Lieberals using an armed forces representative as a political tool. Ummm, the Navy is the primary agency being used in this operation, so it makes sense that a military officer would head the operation, as he would have a better operational understanding of what the Navy is and is not capable of doing for the government. :o do we not expect out defence force to protect out borders now..... we only use them as a ferrying service...maybe.. What we don't expect is to see a senior officer dangling like a puppet on a politicians strings sprouting the correct political line.

Really, Ive seen that may times over the past 30 years, so you need to get out more, or enlist yourself or stick to a subject your are more knowledgeable about. Either way, you're full of sh1t with that statement.


I rememebr the CDF expousing what a brilliant plan it was to train the indons  in Aussie battle tactics, knowing full well they would be used to kill women and children in Timor, this was during my service under the keating government.  >:(

Not the first time and not the last

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:28am:

If you want to attack abbott and co, then do so, but don't be like conroy and attack the ADF for doing their job in difficult circumstances.

The Generals job yesterday was to answer questions truthfully.

We are not at war, those conventions do not apply.



Quote:

THe ADF has been used as a political tool by many governments over the years and labor has not been above using them to foce social issues so they can make their 'backers' happy.

Yes unfortunately our military are the playthings of fools.

From wars we have no business being involved in to our current discussion.

It makes me sick to see pollie's of both parties photo ops at serviceman's funerals

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 10:39am:

If the toy soldier would answer legitimate questions then we would all be better informed. It is he secrecy that is the cause of concern.

I couldn't give a rats arse if he didn't answer any questions at all son, the boats have all but stopped. And I reckon that toy soldier could slap seven shades of sh it out of you before you could put your bloody bong down you disrespectful insignificant little man.

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 10:39am: If the toy soldier would answer legitimate questions then we would all be better informed. It is he secrecy that is the cause of concern. I couldn't give a rats arse if he didn't answer any questions at all son, the boats have all but stopped. And I reckon that toy soldier could slap seven shades of sh it out of you before you could put your bloody bong down you disrespectful insignificant little man.

Oh good, I am getting to you, excellent.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:32am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 11:28am: If you want to attack abbott and co, then do so, but don't be like conroy and attack the ADF for doing their job in difficult circumstances. The Generals job yesterday was to answer questions truthfully. We are not at war, those conventions do not apply. Quote: THe ADF has been used as a political tool by many governments over the years and labor has not been above using them to foce social issues so they can make their 'backers' happy. Yes unfortunately our military are the playthings of fools. From wars we have no business being involved in to our current discussion. It makes me sick to see pollie's of both parties photo ops at serviceman's funerals

We are at war mate ,during labours tenure 2 divisions of deadbeats completed a successful seaborne invasion. If we treat it as anything other than an invasion then we are rooted

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:37am:

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 11:33am: St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 10:39am: If the toy soldier would answer legitimate questions then we would all be better informed. It is he secrecy that is the cause of concern. I couldn't give a rats arse if he didn't answer any questions at all son, the boats have all but stopped. And I reckon that toy soldier could slap seven shades of sh it out of you before you could put your bloody bong down you disrespectful insignificant little man. Oh good, I am getting to you, excellent.

If it's only the outcome that concerns you than why waste so much money towing back?  Just drown the buggers.

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:11am:

FriYAY wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 10:46am: St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 10:39am: If the toy soldier would answer legitimate questions then we would all be better informed. It is he secrecy that is the cause of concern. No, the cause for concern is unwanted, uninvited, uncontrolled country shoppers using illegal people smuggling operations to smuggle them across Australia’s borders. :) Does the smiley mean you know you are being disingenuous?

No, the smiley means i'm happy.

:)

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:37am:

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 11:33am: St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 10:39am: If the toy soldier would answer legitimate questions then we would all be better informed. It is he secrecy that is the cause of concern. I couldn't give a rats arse if he didn't answer any questions at all son, the boats have all but stopped. And I reckon that toy soldier could slap seven shades of sh it out of you before you could put your bloody bong down you disrespectful insignificant little man. Oh good, I am getting to you, excellent.

No your not ,you are entitled to your your opinions however wrong they may be but someone like you has no credibility to refer to the General as a toy soldier, this man has the respect of ADF in general, most of the populace and aside from the SHY, Conroys and a few other wirrahs in the ALP the respect of the parliament. You George on the other hand have pretty well jack sh it ;)

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:41am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 11:37am: 5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 11:33am: St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 10:39am: If the toy soldier would answer legitimate questions then we would all be better informed. It is he secrecy that is the cause of concern. I couldn't give a rats arse if he didn't answer any questions at all son, the boats have all but stopped. And I reckon that toy soldier could slap seven shades of sh it out of you before you could put your bloody bong down you disrespectful insignificant little man. Oh good, I am getting to you, excellent. If it's only the outcome that concerns you than why waste so much money towing back?  Just drown the buggers.

:'( Is that you SHY

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:32am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 11:28am: If you want to attack abbott and co, then do so, but don't be like conroy and attack the ADF for doing their job in difficult circumstances. The Generals job yesterday was to answer questions truthfully. We are not at war, those conventions do not apply. Quote: THe ADF has been used as a political tool by many governments over the years and labor has not been above using them to foce social issues so they can make their 'backers' happy. Yes unfortunately our military are the playthings of fools. From wars we have no business being involved in to our current discussion. It makes me sick to see pollie's of both parties photo ops at serviceman's funerals

What conventions are you talking about?

If the operation has been classified, then he is obliged under the secrets act to not blurt out anything and everything he knows or does. We don't have to be "at war" for the secrets act to take affect, frig Im still bound by that act and I haven't served for decades.  :)


Now if you want to get a military lawyer sign an afidavit to the effect he broke the law, then you may have a valid complaint; if not then your attacks are the work of a lowly grub much like that idiot conroy.

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 10:39am: If the toy soldier would answer legitimate questions then we would all be better informed. It is he secrecy that is the cause of concern. I couldn't give a rats arse if he didn't answer any questions at all son, the boats have all but stopped. And I reckon that toy soldier could slap seven shades of sh it out of you before you could put your bloody bong down you disrespectful insignificant little man.

Georgy is a High definition fan boy, so there would be 16M shades of sh it that could be beaten out of him. It would be a never ending job. The only thing hes got going for him is that he manages to eat most of what you slap out of him.

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 11:41am: St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 11:37am: 5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 11:33am: St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 10:39am: If the toy soldier would answer legitimate questions then we would all be better informed. It is he secrecy that is the cause of concern. I couldn't give a rats arse if he didn't answer any questions at all son, the boats have all but stopped. And I reckon that toy soldier could slap seven shades of sh it out of you before you could put your bloody bong down you disrespectful insignificant little man. Oh good, I am getting to you, excellent. If it's only the outcome that concerns you than why waste so much money towing back?  Just drown the buggers. :'( Is that you SHY

And the point remains.

The limited information that's come out on the result of this policy leaves the stomach churning.  Yet, with all the secrecy, who knows what else has gone on?

And if you don't care, then again I ask, why bother with tow backs, just drown em.

Quote:

The limited information that's come out on the result of this policy leaves the stomach churning

Need a tissue, princess?

Drowing em was a policy of your mates in the previous govt  ,couple of thousand anyway. They couldn't even get that right ;D

  :-?

Greensprogress wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:57am:

Quote: The limited information that's come out on the result of this policy leaves the stomach churning Need a tissue, princess?

I take it you're one of those imbeciles that thinks government secrecy and lack of transparency on policy is a good thing?  Care to explain why you think so? 

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:03pm:

Drowing em was a policy of your mates in the previous govt  ,couple of thousand anyway. They couldn't even get that right ;D

There was no policy to drown, and besides, I fail to see where I have ever said I agreed with the Labor party policy on asylum seekers? Are you really so thick as to think that because someone mightn't agree with the sadist's death camps policy, that they must agree with Labor's death camps policy?

What a knob you are, to think that this is a black or white issue, when it comes to Labor's policy vs Liberal's policy. ;D

Anyway. Getting back to the question for you, please don't shy away from it. If the outcomes the only thing that is important, why not just drown them? 

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 10:54am:

Hey Cods you missed highlighting this part Section 68 of the Constitution sets out the ADF's command arrangements. The Section states that "the command in chief of the naval and military forces of the Commonwealth is vested in the Governor-General as the Queen's representative". cods wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 10:47am: the thought of the GG sending our troops to war fills me with terror. Im sure you'll be much more comfortable once a man regains his rightful place.

DOES SHE GIVE FIGHTING ORDERS... TO OUR ARMIES.DOES SHE TELL THE NAVY WHAT TO DO...........WELL DOES SHE?????


NO SHE TAKE A BLOODY SALUTE... AND SHE HANGS MEDALS ON UNIFORMS.......


B UT DONT LET THAT GET IN THE WAY OF YOUR PARANOIA. SINCE YOUR LOT GOT THROWN OUT OF OFFICE...


and yes I do prefer a MAN a real man one who isnt told what to do by fans writing him letters... ;D ;D ;D

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:32am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 11:17am: cods wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:29am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:21am: Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:06am: What can be expected when you get the Lieberals using an armed forces representative as a political tool. Ummm, the Navy is the primary agency being used in this operation, so it makes sense that a military officer would head the operation, as he would have a better operational understanding of what the Navy is and is not capable of doing for the government. :o do we not expect out defence force to protect out borders now..... we only use them as a ferrying service...maybe.. What we don't expect is to see a senior officer dangling like a puppet on a politicians strings sprouting the correct political line. Really, Ive seen that may times over the past 30 years, so you need to get out more, or enlist yourself or stick to a subject your are more knowledgeable about. Either way, you're full of sh1t with that statement. I rememebr the CDF expousing what a brilliant plan it was to train the indons  in Aussie battle tactics, knowing full well they would be used to kill women and children in Timor, this was during my service under the keating government.  >:( Not the first time and not the last

DNAS FORGOTTEN CONVENIENTLY KRUDD SAYING HE WOULD SEND THE NAVY TO DEAL WITH THOSE DASTARDLY JAPANESE WHALERS.... ;) ;)
I BELIEVE IT WAS AN ARMED BATTLESHIP....

hilarious.


dna has a shocking memory... :P

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:51am:

If the operation has been classified

And now we are getting to the nub of our problem.

Has Operations Sovereign Borders been classified?

It seems success is not but problems failures are, which is not secrecy but censorship.

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 10:15am:

cods wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 9:57am: Winston Smith wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 9:41am: its the same thing... you are spitting out your vitriol.    its the modern world to day.. we could all of course get soap boxes out.....where to put them thats the trick. So communication is about heaping abuse on people while pretending you're joking by adding a liberal dose of laughing, winking, leering, gloating representations of a smiling human face? more or less..... ;) ;) ;) ;) why are you on here???????????????????...what point are you making??????????? do you think this is about c&p and no opinions??????? is that what you are seeking???? I think the mods control some of the abuse...if you had a soap box you would still get abused.... why are you hear???.... just to criticise or maybe add a contribution.. you dont have to join in the abuse or use the smilies.. you can start your own forum and get rid of anyone that dares cross a line..... ::) ::) thats sarcasm in smiley language.. sorry if it offends your sensitive nature. Thank you for being honest about why you are here.

I wasnt telling you WHY I AM HERE... I was asking WHY ARE YOU HERE...

why I am here is a whole different thread my friend..

you are the one critcising anything and everything..and everyone..

the rest of us either use it or we dont...there are no rules about using smilies...and I dont think the political forum is the place for the discussion...do you??..

maybe relationships would get you the answers you are seeking..

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:11pm:

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:03pm: Drowing em was a policy of your mates in the previous govt  ,couple of thousand anyway. They couldn't even get that right ;D There was no policy to drown, and besides, I fail to see where I have ever said I agreed with the Labor party policy on asylum seekers? Are you really so thick as to think that because someone mightn't agree with the sadist's death camps policy, that they must agree with Labor's death camps policy? What a knob you are, to think that this is a black or white issue, when it comes to Labor's policy vs Liberal's policy. ;D Anyway. Getting back to the question for you, please don't shy away from it. If the outcomes the only thing that is important, why not just drown them?

True there was no policy to drown them it was just an unexpected bonus.. sorry consequence, of the ALPs dismantling of a previously effective policy. I have no say in regards to what happens to thes illegals mate so don't ask me, all I know is that the current strategy is yielding results , good results

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:25pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:11pm: 5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:03pm: Drowing em was a policy of your mates in the previous govt  ,couple of thousand anyway. They couldn't even get that right ;D There was no policy to drown, and besides, I fail to see where I have ever said I agreed with the Labor party policy on asylum seekers? Are you really so thick as to think that because someone mightn't agree with the sadist's death camps policy, that they must agree with Labor's death camps policy? What a knob you are, to think that this is a black or white issue, when it comes to Labor's policy vs Liberal's policy. ;D Anyway. Getting back to the question for you, please don't shy away from it. If the outcomes the only thing that is important, why not just drown them?  True there was no policy to drown them it was just an unexpected bonus.. sorry consequence, of the ALPs dismantling of a previously effective policy. I have no say in regards to what happens to thes illegals mate so don't ask me, all I know is that the current strategy is yielding results , good results

Right, but again, if it's all about the outcome, then wouldn't just drowning them yield the same results, PLUS have the added benefits of being cheaper?  You should be on board with this policy, after all, it's all about the final outcome and the final outcome only!

You do have a say, you have a vote.  Would you vote, yes or no, for a party that offers the cheap solution of just drowning them?  No detention centers. No life boats.  No wasting fuel having to tow a boat back. Just drown.  The outcome will be the same, the boats will stop.

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:14pm:

DOES SHE GIVE FIGHTING ORDERS... TO OUR ARMIES

Does Tony?
Did Howard?


cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:14pm:

DOES SHE TELL THE NAVY WHAT TO DO

Does Tony?
Did Howard?


cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:14pm:

NO SHE TAKE A BLOODY SALUTE... AND SHE HANGS MEDALS ON UNIFORMS.......

About the extent of politicians contributions after declaring who to fight, oh & of course looking all sad at funerals


cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:14pm:

B UT DONT LET THAT GET IN THE WAY OF YOUR PARANOIA

I'm not

BTW who's the Minister For Defense, pretty sure its not Morrison, so why's he ordering the military about.



cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:14pm:

SINCE YOUR LOT GOT THROWN OUT OF OFFICE...

Unlike yourself I do not have a "LOT"
Which allows me to heap scorn on both when deserved.

However it seems you do, & your hypocrisy is on display for all to see(usually in caps as well, why you shout so much?) everyday.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:26pm:

Posted on: Today at 12:26pm 5.56_ NATO wrote Today at 12:25pm: alevine wrote Today at 12:11pm: 5.56_ NATO wrote Today at 12:03pm: Drowing em was a policy of your mates in the previous govt  ,couple of thousand anyway. They couldn't even get that right There was no policy to drown, and besides, I fail to see where I have ever said I agreed with the Labor party policy on asylum seekers? Are you really so thick as to think that because someone mightn't agree with the sadist's death camps policy, that they must agree with Labor's death camps policy? What a knob you are, to think that this is a black or white issue, when it comes to Labor's policy vs Liberal's policy. Anyway. Getting back to the question for you, please don't shy away from it. If the outcomes the only thing that is important, why not just drown them?  True there was no policy to drown them it was just an unexpected bonus.. sorry consequence, of the ALPs dismantling of a previously effective policy. I have no say in regards to what happens to thes illegals mate so don't ask me, all I know is that the current strategy is yielding results , good results Right, but again, if it's all about the outcome, then wouldn't just drowning them yield the same results, PLUS have the added benefits of being cheaper?  You should be on board with this policy, after all, it's all about the final outcome and the final outcome only! You do have a say, you have a vote.  Would you vote, yes or no, for a party that offers the cheap solution of just drowning them?  No detention centers. No life boats.  No wasting fuel having to tow a boat back. Just drown.  The outcome will be the same, the boats will stop

think you will find that thats  GREENS AND LABOR POLICY to drown them.. not LIBS.


we brought in the pacific solution just to stop that very thing... drownings.....


but you couldnt wait to start them off again.

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 11:04pm:

She be right mate , I see enough dead beats at work, ..funny thing is they call us to sort out their poo for em... ;)

Work in a mirror factory, do you??

;)

Greensprogress wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 8:41pm:

I am unable to post links but you can find his offensive remarks on the ABc website in relation the General Campell. He is a grubby little man who is an embarrassment to the senate. So glad we Greens are no longer associated with grubs like this. He should stick to sorting his red and brown undies.

Campbell gave up all right to respect when he prostituted his rank as a General for $100K pay rise, and politicised the military.

:)

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:26pm:

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:25pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:11pm: 5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:03pm: Drowing em was a policy of your mates in the previous govt  ,couple of thousand anyway. They couldn't even get that right ;D There was no policy to drown, and besides, I fail to see where I have ever said I agreed with the Labor party policy on asylum seekers? Are you really so thick as to think that because someone mightn't agree with the sadist's death camps policy, that they must agree with Labor's death camps policy? What a knob you are, to think that this is a black or white issue, when it comes to Labor's policy vs Liberal's policy. ;D Anyway. Getting back to the question for you, please don't shy away from it. If the outcomes the only thing that is important, why not just drown them?  True there was no policy to drown them it was just an unexpected bonus.. sorry consequence, of the ALPs dismantling of a previously effective policy. I have no say in regards to what happens to thes illegals mate so don't ask me, all I know is that the current strategy is yielding results , good results Right, but again, if it's all about the outcome, then wouldn't just drowning them yield the same results, PLUS have the added benefits of being cheaper?  You should be on board with this policy, after all, it's all about the final outcome and the final outcome only! You do have a say, you have a vote.  Would you vote, yes or no, for a party that offers the cheap solution of just drowning them?  No detention centers. No life boats.  No wasting fuel having to tow a boat back. Just drown.  The outcome will be the same, the boats will stop.

Let me know when you arrive back in the real world ,now , with all due respect , you are talking sh it. Bottom line is current policy appears effective ,let it run for a few years and history will be the judge of its effectiveness . The country as an added bonus will potentially have up to 1-200,000 less illegal, unwanted and un needed hobos from such paradises as the holy land and sub Saharan Africa. You ever had to live next door to any of em ::)

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:26pm:      Posted on: Today at 12:26pm 5.56_ NATO wrote Today at 12:25pm: alevine wrote Today at 12:11pm: 5.56_ NATO wrote Today at 12:03pm: Drowing em was a policy of your mates in the previous govt  ,couple of thousand anyway. They couldn't even get that right There was no policy to drown, and besides, I fail to see where I have ever said I agreed with the Labor party policy on asylum seekers? Are you really so thick as to think that because someone mightn't agree with the sadist's death camps policy, that they must agree with Labor's death camps policy? What a knob you are, to think that this is a black or white issue, when it comes to Labor's policy vs Liberal's policy. Anyway. Getting back to the question for you, please don't shy away from it. If the outcomes the only thing that is important, why not just drown them?  True there was no policy to drown them it was just an unexpected bonus.. sorry consequence, of the ALPs dismantling of a previously effective policy. I have no say in regards to what happens to thes illegals mate so don't ask me, all I know is that the current strategy is yielding results , good results Right, but again, if it's all about the outcome, then wouldn't just drowning them yield the same results, PLUS have the added benefits of being cheaper?  You should be on board with this policy, after all, it's all about the final outcome and the final outcome only! You do have a say, you have a vote.  Would you vote, yes or no, for a party that offers the cheap solution of just drowning them?  No detention centers. No life boats.  No wasting fuel having to tow a boat back. Just drown.  The outcome will be the same, the boats will stop think you will find that thats  GREENS AND LABOR POLICY to drown them.. not LIBS. we brought in the pacific solution just to stop that very thing... drownings..... but you couldnt wait to start them off again.

Another one who doesn't understand that just because one doesn't support the Libtard policy ,they must support Labor or Greens ;D

Cods, I expect better.

And Cods, ... ... isn't this about border protection? or about queue jumping? or about illegals? I'm confused - when did it become about drownings?

red baron wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 7:16am:

Conroy (and Gillard) tried oh so hard to repress Freedom of Speech when that slug Conroy tried to introduce draconian legislation into Parliament when Labor was in office. Thankfully it wads defeated, even the Greens could see that one was a bomb waiting to go off. Now, even on the Opposition Benches that pie eyed turd has treated our Defence Personnel worse that you would treat the junk yard dog. He needs to be censored himself.

"Operational Matters", Red???
You need to read what is happening to Australian press on Manus.....
:)

5.56_ NATO wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:40pm:

Let me know when you arrive back in the real world ,now , with all due respect , you are talking sh it. Bottom line is current policy appears effective ,let it run for a few years and history will be the judge of its effectiveness . The country as an added bonus will potentially have up to 1-200,000 less illegal, unwanted and un needed hobos from such paradises as the holy land and sub Saharan Africa. You ever had to live next door to any of em

Yes, I have and I do. Lovely people, just like many other people. Surprisingly, not much different in their wants and aspirations to those of whiteys. WOW. What a shock.

I live in the real world. Where you do have a vote. And I asked you to tell me what you think given you don't care about actions, rather outcomes. Why can't you give me a simple yes or no? It seems reasonable, that for a person like you who only cares in outcomes, that drowning is a much better option.

How do you define the effectiveness of this policy? By cost? By the events that have taken place (which we can't really judge as we have no information due to all the secrecy)? or just by the outcome ?

Lobo wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:38pm:

Greensprogress wrote on Feb 25th, 2014 at 8:41pm: I am unable to post links but you can find his offensive remarks on the ABc website in relation the General Campell. He is a grubby little man who is an embarrassment to the senate. So glad we Greens are no longer associated with grubs like this. He should stick to sorting his red and brown undies. Campbell gave up all right to respect when he prostituted his rank as a General for $100K pay rise, and politicised the military. :)

Another loud mouth know it all, spouting their ignorant opinion. Well done genius.   >:(

Nothing more pathetic and stupid than a civvie giveing their opinion on defence issues, the skiddies in the Generals grundies have more character and honesty than you.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:21pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 11:51am: If the operation has been classified And now we are getting to the nub of our problem. Has Operations Sovereign Borders been classified? It seems success is not but problems failures are, which is not secrecy but censorship.

That's what classifed is in a nutshell, hiding the failures and telling the world of the successes, this is not new to this particular operation, it is a SOP for the ADF and has been for a very long time.


If it is a military opertion then it is claissified at the very least as "Need to Know" and you (pretty much everyone)  don't  :)

i dont see anything wrong with Conroys questioning of Campbell. The boat people issue is not a defence issue, it is a enforcement or police issue. The fact that we are using the miltiary for this doesnt alter the facts, this is not a defence issue, by Campbell agreeing to command this operation he has automatically put his hand up to scrutiny of his actions. He needs to stop crying like a baby, so do the other Conroy detractors. Thank god we have poltiicans like Conroy who do ask inconvenient questions.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:06am:

What can be expected when you get the Lieberals using an armed forces representative as a political tool.

Exactly.....

I was always taught that the Military in this country was 'apolitical'.

What's Abbott trying to do, take Aus down along the path to becoming a little tinpot dictatorship???
That's where we're headed at the rate Abbott's going.

Since when, in this country, has a PM had to surround himself with the Military?

It was bad enough when Howard found it necessary to wear a flak-jacket while addressing a public meeting.....

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:38am:

Are the emoticons some kind of code? Is there a hidden meaning to the number and type being used? This is very disturbing.

Some have 'Stickey Finger Syndrome".

;)

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:54pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:21pm: BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 11:51am: If the operation has been classified And now we are getting to the nub of our problem. Has Operations Sovereign Borders been classified? It seems success is not but problems failures are, which is not secrecy but censorship. That's what classifed is in a nutshell, hiding the failures and telling the world of the successes, this is not new to this particular poperation, it is a SOP for the ADF and ghhas been fora very long time. If it is a military opertion then it is claissified at the very least as "Need to Know" and you (pretty much everyone)  don't  :)

Yeah sure SOP for war, not SOP to scoop up unarmed people floating in a rickety boats.

But it seems you (of all people) have fallen for the uniform & braids just as intended & now believe this is an actual military operation like Afghanistan or WWII.

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 9:06am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:49am: Just for dumbsmithy: Lt Gen Campbell was chosen because of his experience. He was commander of Australian military operations in the Middle East and served in East Timor. He has also served as Deputy National Security Adviser. In short, he was chosen because he has the experience and gets things done. Whether there is another Naval officer who has similar experience, who knows? But clearly he was chosen because he has the experience for this type of operation. isnt it anarchy if a military persons disobeys his commander in chief  who happens to be the PM of the day?.. anyway.. and yet some mongrels call him a prostitute...but then I guess a leftie would know the meaning of that wouldnt they??.. how sad how bloody sad. :( :(

Wrong again, cods, on all counts....
But let's concentrate on CIC.....

THE GOVERNOR-GENERAL AS COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF

“The command in chief of the naval and military forces of the Commonwealth is vested in the Governor-General as the Queen’s representative” – so runs s.68 of our Constitution, unaltered since 1900; indeed changed only as to two words, neither of any consequence, since the first draft of the Constitution was adopted at the initial convention of founding fathers on 9 April 1891, ninety-two years ago.

And the words seem clear and unambiguous enough – “The command in chief … is vested in the Governor-General”:

no mention of Chiefs of Staff, none of Ministers for Defence, of Cabinet or of Prime Minister.

Do try to get it right.....

:)

ian wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:56pm:

i dont see anything wrong with Conroys questioning of Campbell. The boat people issue is not a defence issue, it is a enforcement or police issue. The fact that we are using the miltiary for this doesnt alter the facts, this is not a defence issue, by Campbell agreeing to command this operation he has automatically put his hand up to scrutiny of his actions. He needs to stop crying like a baby, so do the other Conroy detractors. Thank god we have poltiicans like Conroy who do ask inconvenient questions.

Accusing a leading Army General of a 'cover up' is not an'inconvenient question', otherwise that little POS would not have to retract it and give an appology.

Im more than happy to get the cops and a bunch of snivelly leftards out doing this job instead of the Navy and the RAAF.


Any volunteers.  ;D  ;D  ;D ;D


Maybe just sit on your couch and throw sh1t is more to your abilities  >:(

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 10:15am: cods wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 9:57am: Winston Smith wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 9:41am: its the same thing... you are spitting out your vitriol.    its the modern world to day.. we could all of course get soap boxes out.....where to put them thats the trick. So communication is about heaping abuse on people while pretending you're joking by adding a liberal dose of laughing, winking, leering, gloating representations of a smiling human face? more or less..... ;) ;) ;) ;) why are you on here???????????????????...what point are you making??????????? do you think this is about c&p and no opinions??????? is that what you are seeking???? I think the mods control some of the abuse...if you had a soap box you would still get abused.... why are you hear???.... just to criticise or maybe add a contribution.. you dont have to join in the abuse or use the smilies.. you can start your own forum and get rid of anyone that dares cross a line..... ::) ::) thats sarcasm in smiley language.. sorry if it offends your sensitive nature. Thank you for being honest about why you are here. I wasnt telling you WHY I AM HERE... I was asking WHY ARE YOU HERE... why I am here is a whole different thread my friend.. you are the one critcising anything and everything..and everyone.. the rest of us either use it or we dont...there are no rules about using smilies...and I dont think the political forum is the place for the discussion...do you??.. maybe relationships would get you the answers you are seeking..

I think you need a hug.

TLDNR
But judging by that behaviour in committee, grub seems a very apt description.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:06pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:54pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:21pm: BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 11:51am: If the operation has been classified And now we are getting to the nub of our problem. Has Operations Sovereign Borders been classified? It seems success is not but problems failures are, which is not secrecy but censorship. That's what classifed is in a nutshell, hiding the failures and telling the world of the successes, this is not new to this particular poperation, it is a SOP for the ADF and ghhas been fora very long time. If it is a military opertion then it is claissified at the very least as "Need to Know" and you (pretty much everyone)  don't  :) Yeah sure SOP for war, not SOP to scoop up unarmed people floating in a rickety boats. But it seems you (of all people) have fallen for the uniform & braids just as intended & now believe this is an actual military operation like Afghanistan or WWII.

It doesn' t matter, the secrets act is in force all of the time, not just when coveinient for you or anyone alse.

If this has been determined to be a military op, then the act is in force; it is in force even in peace time.


Im pretty sure that is abbotts plan, nothing the ADF can do about it, not their call. Labor can change it back to Operation Floating Bodies when they get back in power.

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 12:50pm:

Lobo wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:38pm: Greensprogress wrote on Feb 25th, 2014 at 8:41pm: I am unable to post links but you can find his offensive remarks on the ABc website in relation the General Campell. He is a grubby little man who is an embarrassment to the senate. So glad we Greens are no longer associated with grubs like this. He should stick to sorting his red and brown undies. Campbell gave up all right to respect when he prostituted his rank as a General for $100K pay rise, and politicised the military. :) Another loud mouth know it all, spouting their ignorant opinion. Well done genius.   >:( Nothing more pathetic and stupid than a civvie giveing their opinion on defence issues, the skiddies in the Generals grundies have more character and honesty than you.

Sleep better tonight, now you've got that off your chest???

What were Service personell before they joined up?
That's right... Civvies!!!

3, 4, or 5-star General yourself, Ol-fella???

;)

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:24pm:

Im pretty sure that is abbotts plan

Pretty sure your right
So much for open transparent government
Much like the kinder gentler polarity

Deceitful PRICK >:(

Isn't that why we hated Gillard?
Deceit?


BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:24pm:

Operation Floating Bodies

To cute by 1/2

As tragic as it is, those floating bodies were not under the Australian Governments care

However this person was, & as already discussed he had not absconded but was within an Australian Facility.

Lost a freaking page again!!!

:D

Seem to have lost P8, mt have to come back later

:D

Lobo wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:40pm:

Seem to have lost P8, mt have to come back later :D

Well, I'll be.....

Here 'tis

:)

Lobo wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:30pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:50pm: Lobo wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:38pm: Greensprogress wrote on Feb 25th, 2014 at 8:41pm: I am unable to post links but you can find his offensive remarks on the ABc website in relation the General Campell. He is a grubby little man who is an embarrassment to the senate. So glad we Greens are no longer associated with grubs like this. He should stick to sorting his red and brown undies. Campbell gave up all right to respect when he prostituted his rank as a General for $100K pay rise, and politicised the military. :) Another loud mouth know it all, spouting their ignorant opinion. Well done genius.   >:( Nothing more pathetic and stupid than a civvie giveing their opinion on defence issues, the skiddies in the Generals grundies have more character and honesty than you. Sleep better tonight, now you've got that off your chest??? What were Service personell before they joined up? That's right... Civvies!!! 3, 4, or 5-star General yourself, Ol-fella??? ;)

No need to reply skid mark, I already know you have nothing relevant to say on the subject

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:42pm:

Lobo wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:30pm: BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:50pm: Lobo wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:38pm: Greensprogress wrote on Feb 25th, 2014 at 8:41pm: I am unable to post links but you can find his offensive remarks on the ABc website in relation the General Campell. He is a grubby little man who is an embarrassment to the senate. So glad we Greens are no longer associated with grubs like this. He should stick to sorting his red and brown undies. Campbell gave up all right to respect when he prostituted his rank as a General for $100K pay rise, and politicised the military. :) Another loud mouth know it all, spouting their ignorant opinion. Well done genius.   >:( Nothing more pathetic and stupid than a civvie giveing their opinion on defence issues, the skiddies in the Generals grundies have more character and honesty than you. Sleep better tonight, now you've got that off your chest??? What were Service personell before they joined up? That's right... Civvies!!! 3, 4, or 5-star General yourself, Ol-fella??? ;) No need to reply skid mark, I already know you have nothing relevant to say on the subject

Normally I wouldn't reply to crap, but in your case I'll make an exception.....

Now come clean, Ol-tossil!

Are you a 3-star General, or Third Assistant Dixie-Basher???

:)


Just so you will feel better, you can have the last say.......

;D ;D

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:34pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:24pm: Im pretty sure that is abbotts plan Pretty sure your right So much for open transparent government Much like the kinder gentler polarity Deceitful PRICK >:( Isn't that why we hated Gillard? Deceit? BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:24pm: Operation Floating Bodies To cute by 1/2 As tragic as it is, those floating bodies were not under the Australian Governments care However this person was, & as already discussed he had not absconded but was within an Australian Facility.

I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this  "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable.

Morrison and Abbott are hiding behind our Navy personnel...a cowardly double act if ever there was one.

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:48pm:

I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this  "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable.

Our military has always had a healthy disregard for authourity, in fact we pride ourselves as a nation on it.

Angus Campbell seems to be towing the line (what the hell pun intended ;)) which is why he has been questioned, unfairly in your opinion.

If as you suggest O.S.B has been thrown under the secrecy act He or the minister needs to come out & say so, although with the inquiries that have been commissioned I find it hard to believe it has.
Why have inquiries into state secrets?
Then again, who picked the investigators? As Sir Humphrey says "never hold an inquiry you don't know the outcome of"

General Campbell is serving & has a duty to the Australian people NOT the LNP.

If O.S.B is not apart of the secrecy act he should answer question by SENATORS(not reporters) frankly & truthfully to the best of his ability.

Quote:

I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this  "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable.

I haven't called him a 'toy soldier,' but I have said (notwithstanding an outstanding military career including with the SAS) he has behaved like a whiney limp wristed cry baby who has run of to Mummy whingeing that a boogie man said "Boo!"  I have also said that he has allowed himself to become the LNP's ADF 'Uncle Tom.'

This is not a military operation even though Abbott has done all he can to make it appear as though it was one with tags like Operation Sovereign Borders.  It is an immigration asylum seeker issue.  It is an appalling debasement of the ADF that it would, through this Uncle Tom, allow itself to be seen as closely politically aligned with Government policy.  Then, when the same bloke is before Senate Estimates, and he is asked a question, he refuses to answer.  What the hell did he expect in that situation, and it was perfectly appropriate that Conroy would tell him he is covering up.

He should have stayed out of the political kitchen.

Angus Campbell is covering up for his cowardly political masters....ssssooooooo whats so grubby about stating the obvious?

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:48pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:34pm: BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:24pm: Im pretty sure that is abbotts plan Pretty sure your right So much for open transparent government Much like the kinder gentler polarity Deceitful PRICK >:( Isn't that why we hated Gillard? Deceit? BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:24pm: Operation Floating Bodies To cute by 1/2 As tragic as it is, those floating bodies were not under the Australian Governments care However this person was, & as already discussed he had not absconded but was within an Australian Facility. I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this  "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable.

I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General

The guy is in a senate hearing refusing to answer reasonable questions.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 2:17pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:48pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:34pm: BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:24pm: Im pretty sure that is abbotts plan Pretty sure your right So much for open transparent government Much like the kinder gentler polarity Deceitful PRICK >:( Isn't that why we hated Gillard? Deceit? BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:24pm: Operation Floating Bodies To cute by 1/2 As tragic as it is, those floating bodies were not under the Australian Governments care However this person was, & as already discussed he had not absconded but was within an Australian Facility. I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this  "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable. I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General The guy is in a senate hearing refusing to answer reasonable questions.

There is an assumption by Abbott and his cronies that this government is a dictatorship and that they are not answerable to anyone.

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:20pm:

ian wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:56pm: i dont see anything wrong with Conroys questioning of Campbell. The boat people issue is not a defence issue, it is a enforcement or police issue. The fact that we are using the miltiary for this doesnt alter the facts, this is not a defence issue, by Campbell agreeing to command this operation he has automatically put his hand up to scrutiny of his actions. He needs to stop crying like a baby, so do the other Conroy detractors. Thank god we have poltiicans like Conroy who do ask inconvenient questions. Accusing a leading Army General of a 'cover up' is not an'inconvenient question', otherwise that little POS would not have to retract it and give an appology. Im more than happy to get the cops and a bunch of snivelly leftards out doing this job instead of the Navy and the RAAF. Any volunteers.  ;D  ;D  ;D ;D Maybe just sit on your couch and throw sh1t is more to your abilities  >:(

Campbell has agreed to conduct and command what is essentialy a police operation. we were always going to need the ADF as a resource but  the Federal police should be leading this, not a military general. Perhaps Campbell saw this as some sort of poltiical opportunity, I dont know. But he jumped into the frying pan willingly.

Lobo wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:16pm:

cods wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 9:06am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 8:49am: Just for dumbsmithy: Lt Gen Campbell was chosen because of his experience. He was commander of Australian military operations in the Middle East and served in East Timor. He has also served as Deputy National Security Adviser. In short, he was chosen because he has the experience and gets things done. Whether there is another Naval officer who has similar experience, who knows? But clearly he was chosen because he has the experience for this type of operation. isnt it anarchy if a military persons disobeys his commander in chief  who happens to be the PM of the day?.. anyway.. and yet some mongrels call him a prostitute...but then I guess a leftie would know the meaning of that wouldnt they??.. how sad how bloody sad. :( :( Wrong again, cods, on all counts.... But let's concentrate on CIC..... THE GOVERNOR-GENERAL AS COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF “The command in chief of the naval and military forces of the Commonwealth is vested in the Governor-General as the Queen’s representative” – so runs s.68 of our Constitution, unaltered since 1900; indeed changed only as to two words, neither of any consequence, since the first draft of the Constitution was adopted at the initial convention of founding fathers on 9 April 1891, ninety-two years ago. And the words seem clear and unambiguous enough – “The command in chief … is vested in the Governor-General”: no mention of Chiefs of Staff, none of Ministers for Defence, of Cabinet or of Prime Minister. Do try to get it right..... :)

well lets put it this way..... for the nongs on here..

what I meant was the govt tells our generals what to do... not the other way round...

do you disagree that the G>G> doesnt not give orders for WAR..

at least I havent heard of any lefty blaming the GG for us going to war in Iraq... maybe yous all got it wrong after all..



but split hairs.. seems to be all you have got. and I feel sorry for you.....so the PM is not called the Commander in CHief..big deal.


so what then is the title given to the PM..

we know they have a Minister of Defence...

but surely the PM of the day takes precedent over that person???>..


well I think that was the case before the basket case of labor.. so anything goes now does it?


oh thats right all you have is conroy... ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Lobo wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:47pm:

Normally I wouldn't reply to crap, but in your case I'll make an exception..... Now come clean, Ol-tossil! Are you a 3-star General, or Third Assistant Dixie-Basher??? :) Just so you will feel better, you can have the last say....... ;D ;D

Still trying to big note yourself.  ;D

You are a nobody, I do not answer questions from little sh1t lids like yourself.


Now run along little boy, you're annoy the adults.



BTW genius we don't use the 'star system' in our defence force, you got that from watching too many american war movies, giving you a false belief you know what the frig you are talking about.  ;D

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 2:17pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:48pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:34pm: BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:24pm: Im pretty sure that is abbotts plan Pretty sure your right So much for open transparent government Much like the kinder gentler polarity Deceitful PRICK >:( Isn't that why we hated Gillard? Deceit? BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:24pm: Operation Floating Bodies To cute by 1/2 As tragic as it is, those floating bodies were not under the Australian Governments care However this person was, & as already discussed he had not absconded but was within an Australian Facility. I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this  "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable. I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General The guy is in a senate hearing refusing to answer reasonable questions.

Yeah, already explained this at least a couple of times.

ian wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:20pm: ian wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 12:56pm: i dont see anything wrong with Conroys questioning of Campbell. The boat people issue is not a defence issue, it is a enforcement or police issue. The fact that we are using the miltiary for this doesnt alter the facts, this is not a defence issue, by Campbell agreeing to command this operation he has automatically put his hand up to scrutiny of his actions. He needs to stop crying like a baby, so do the other Conroy detractors. Thank god we have poltiicans like Conroy who do ask inconvenient questions. Accusing a leading Army General of a 'cover up' is not an'inconvenient question', otherwise that little POS would not have to retract it and give an appology. Im more than happy to get the cops and a bunch of snivelly leftards out doing this job instead of the Navy and the RAAF. Any volunteers.  ;D  ;D  ;D ;D Maybe just sit on your couch and throw sh1t is more to your abilities  >:( Campbell has agreed to conduct and command what is essentialy a police operation. we were always going to need the ADF as a resource but  the Federal police should be leading this, not a military general. Perhaps Campbell saw this as some sort of poltiical opportunity, I dont know. But he jumped into the frying pan willingly.

Well considering there are no police doing the work being done by the RAN and the RAAF, maybe they should just take over, too easy.

It's not like either the RAAF or the RAN would lose any sleep over not baby sitting reffos all day.


And once again I will have to call bullsh1t on Campbells supposed political aspirations; unless you have proof of course. Asked to do a job and is doing it supurbly

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 2:07pm:

Quote: I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this  "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable. I haven't called him a 'toy soldier,' but I have said (notwithstanding an outstanding military career including with the SAS) he has behaved like a whiney limp wristed cry baby who has run of to Mummy whingeing that a boogie man said "Boo!"  I have also said that he has allowed himself to become the LNP's ADF 'Uncle Tom.' This is not a military operation even though Abbott has done all he can to make it appear as though it was one with tags like Operation Sovereign Borders.  It is an immigration asylum seeker issue.  It is an appalling debasement of the ADF that it would, through this Uncle Tom, allow itself to be seen as closely politically aligned with Government policy.  Then, when the same bloke is before Senate Estimates, and he is asked a question, he refuses to answer.  What the hell did he expect in that situation, and it was perfectly appropriate that Conroy would tell him he is covering up. He should have stayed out of the political kitchen.

You people seem to talk with great authority about a subject that you know less than nothing about.

But that is the leftard way I suppose.

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 2:07pm: Quote: I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this  "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable. I haven't called him a 'toy soldier,' but I have said (notwithstanding an outstanding military career including with the SAS) he has behaved like a whiney limp wristed cry baby who has run of to Mummy whingeing that a boogie man said "Boo!"  I have also said that he has allowed himself to become the LNP's ADF 'Uncle Tom.' This is not a military operation even though Abbott has done all he can to make it appear as though it was one with tags like Operation Sovereign Borders.  It is an immigration asylum seeker issue.  It is an appalling debasement of the ADF that it would, through this Uncle Tom, allow itself to be seen as closely politically aligned with Government policy.  Then, when the same bloke is before Senate Estimates, and he is asked a question, he refuses to answer.  What the hell did he expect in that situation, and it was perfectly appropriate that Conroy would tell him he is covering up. He should have stayed out of the political kitchen. You people seems to talk with great authority about a subject that you know less than nothing about. But that is the leftard way I suppose.

I know far more about this than you will ever know about this, Sunshine. 

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:42pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 3:38pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 2:07pm: Quote: I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this  "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable. I haven't called him a 'toy soldier,' but I have said (notwithstanding an outstanding military career including with the SAS) he has behaved like a whiney limp wristed cry baby who has run of to Mummy whingeing that a boogie man said "Boo!"  I have also said that he has allowed himself to become the LNP's ADF 'Uncle Tom.' This is not a military operation even though Abbott has done all he can to make it appear as though it was one with tags like Operation Sovereign Borders.  It is an immigration asylum seeker issue.  It is an appalling debasement of the ADF that it would, through this Uncle Tom, allow itself to be seen as closely politically aligned with Government policy.  Then, when the same bloke is before Senate Estimates, and he is asked a question, he refuses to answer.  What the hell did he expect in that situation, and it was perfectly appropriate that Conroy would tell him he is covering up. He should have stayed out of the political kitchen. You people seems to talk with great authority about a subject that you know less than nothing about. But that is the leftard way I suppose. I know far more about this than you will ever know about this, Sunshine.

You will have to demonstrate that, because you have shown the complete opposite so far. A cluelessness that is beyond compare.

Conroy has the guts to say - "the emperor has no clothes."

Greensprogress wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 3:42pm: BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 3:38pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 2:07pm: Quote: I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this  "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable. I haven't called him a 'toy soldier,' but I have said (notwithstanding an outstanding military career including with the SAS) he has behaved like a whiney limp wristed cry baby who has run of to Mummy whingeing that a boogie man said "Boo!"  I have also said that he has allowed himself to become the LNP's ADF 'Uncle Tom.' This is not a military operation even though Abbott has done all he can to make it appear as though it was one with tags like Operation Sovereign Borders.  It is an immigration asylum seeker issue.  It is an appalling debasement of the ADF that it would, through this Uncle Tom, allow itself to be seen as closely politically aligned with Government policy.  Then, when the same bloke is before Senate Estimates, and he is asked a question, he refuses to answer.  What the hell did he expect in that situation, and it was perfectly appropriate that Conroy would tell him he is covering up. He should have stayed out of the political kitchen. You people seems to talk with great authority about a subject that you know less than nothing about. But that is the leftard way I suppose. I know far more about this than you will ever know about this, Sunshine.  You will have to demonstrate that, because you have shown the complete opposite so far. A cluelessness that is beyond compare.

Enjoy you last moments NOIQ, for soon enough, this sock of yours will be banned.

:) :)

I have no idea what you are talking about, but I do notice a similar pattern from your lefty brethren with sock accusations when youve been caught out and your idiocy is in full display.

Enjoy that.

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:23pm:

Lobo wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:47pm: Normally I wouldn't reply to crap, but in your case I'll make an exception..... Now come clean, Ol-tossil! Are you a 3-star General, or Third Assistant Dixie-Basher??? :) Just so you will feel better, you can have the last say....... ;D ;D Still trying to big note yourself.  ;D   NO!! Don't have to, unlike yourself. You are a nobody, I do not answer questions from little sh1t lids like yourself. O.K. You are a 'Third Assistant Dixie- Basher'. Now run along little boy, you're annoy the adults. That's right the adults are in charge..... :D :D :D BTW genius we don't use the 'star system' in our defence force, you got that from watching too many american war movies, giving you a false belief you know what the frig you are talking about.  ;D

No, Flopdick....3-Star came from Abbott and Morrison.
I questioned their usage, so I did a bit of research.
Suggest you do the same.....

Brigadier (BRIG)

Brigadier Rank Insignia
Brigadiers command at the Brigade level and are also Directors General within Army Headquarters and non-Army groups. They are responsible for branches within the headquarters such as Personnel, Operations and Career Management. The rank of Brigadier is referred to as ‘one star’ rank.

Major General (MAJGEN)

Major General Rank Insignia
Major Generals command formations of division size, or equivalent, and hold senior executive appointments within the Department of Defence such as Special Operations Commander - Australia. The rank of Major General is referred to as ‘two star’ rank.
Lieutenant General (LTGEN)

Lieutenant General Insignia
Lieutenant General is the second-highest active rank in the Australian Army. The Rank of Lieutenant General is held by the Chief of Army, currently Lieutenant General David Morrison AO. The rank is also held when an Army Officer is the Vice Chief of the Defence Force, the Chief of Joint Operations, or the Chief of Capability Development. The rank of Lieutenant General is referred to as ‘three star’ rank.

General (GEN)

General Rank Insignia
General is the highest active rank of the Australian Army. The rank of General is only held when an Army Officer is appointed as the Chief of the Defence Force, currently held by General David Hurley AC, DSC. The rank of General is referred to as ‘four star’ rank.

http://www.army.gov.au/Who-we-are/Ranks/Officer-Ranks

Now, child, stop annoying everyone....

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:42pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 3:38pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 2:07pm: Quote: I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this  "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable. I haven't called him a 'toy soldier,' but I have said (notwithstanding an outstanding military career including with the SAS) he has behaved like a whiney limp wristed cry baby who has run of to Mummy whingeing that a boogie man said "Boo!"  I have also said that he has allowed himself to become the LNP's ADF 'Uncle Tom.' This is not a military operation even though Abbott has done all he can to make it appear as though it was one with tags like Operation Sovereign Borders.  It is an immigration asylum seeker issue.  It is an appalling debasement of the ADF that it would, through this Uncle Tom, allow itself to be seen as closely politically aligned with Government policy.  Then, when the same bloke is before Senate Estimates, and he is asked a question, he refuses to answer.  What the hell did he expect in that situation, and it was perfectly appropriate that Conroy would tell him he is covering up. He should have stayed out of the political kitchen. You people seems to talk with great authority about a subject that you know less than nothing about. But that is the leftard way I suppose. I know far more about this than you will ever know about this, Sunshine.

Yes this board is full of left wing 'military experts' who never served a day in their lives, but know more about everything than those who have.

Please regal us with your tactical and strategic understanding of current military doctrine as it it applies to the ADF, it should be a hoot.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:45pm:

Conroy has the guts to say - "the emperor has no clothes."

And 10 minutes later recide the inflamatory and false statment and appologise.


This title is an understatement of his lowly character

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 3:45pm: Conroy has the guts to say - "the emperor has no clothes." And 10 minutes later recide the inflamatory and false statment and appologise. This title is an understatement of his lowly character

Don't you mean rescind?

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 3:45pm: Conroy has the guts to say - "the emperor has no clothes." And 10 minutes later recide the inflamatory and false statment and appologise. This title is an understatement of his lowly character

No apology was given.  Get your facts right, Sunshine.

Greensprogress wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:53pm:

I have no idea what you are talking about, but I do notice a similar pattern from your lefty brethren with sock accusations when youve been caught out and your idiocy is in full display. Enjoy that.

I enjoy thinking of IQ combing–over his bold spot with ever–thinning black hair.

“Long blond hair” oh man I doubled up in mirth 2-3 times today thinking about that  ;D

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 3:45pm: Conroy has the guts to say - "the emperor has no clothes." And 10 minutes later recide the inflamatory and false statment and appologise. This title is an understatement of his lowly character

Conroy retracted the statement (had to) but did NOT apologise and good on him for that.

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:00pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 3:42pm: BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 3:38pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 2:07pm: Quote: I don't disagree, but I have a serious problem with these idiots sticking it to the General in charge of the op, especially when they a frggen clueless of what is going on. If they are angry and frustrated, fine, whinge to a pollie, but as far as this  "toy soldier" sh1t; it is unacceptable. I haven't called him a 'toy soldier,' but I have said (notwithstanding an outstanding military career including with the SAS) he has behaved like a whiney limp wristed cry baby who has run of to Mummy whingeing that a boogie man said "Boo!"  I have also said that he has allowed himself to become the LNP's ADF 'Uncle Tom.' This is not a military operation even though Abbott has done all he can to make it appear as though it was one with tags like Operation Sovereign Borders.  It is an immigration asylum seeker issue.  It is an appalling debasement of the ADF that it would, through this Uncle Tom, allow itself to be seen as closely politically aligned with Government policy.  Then, when the same bloke is before Senate Estimates, and he is asked a question, he refuses to answer.  What the hell did he expect in that situation, and it was perfectly appropriate that Conroy would tell him he is covering up. He should have stayed out of the political kitchen. You people seems to talk with great authority about a subject that you know less than nothing about. But that is the leftard way I suppose. I know far more about this than you will ever know about this, Sunshine.  Yes this board is full of left wing 'military experts' who never served a day in their lives, but know more about everything than those who have. Please regal us with your tactical and strategic understanding of current military doctrine as it it applies to the ADF, it should be a hoot.

Never served one second of my life, and I have made quite certain never to suggest otherwise.

I have an elder Brother conscripted in about 1968, and he stayed in the Army until he retired, a few years ago.  My Old Man died in Canberra near enough to two years ago.  Blokes with Stars on their epaulets were in abundance there, if you get my drift.  So, I readily concede my own military credentials are zero, but very reliable military information is but a few phone calls away.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:05pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 4:01pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 3:45pm: Conroy has the guts to say - "the emperor has no clothes." And 10 minutes later recide the inflamatory and false statment and appologise. This title is an understatement of his lowly character Don't you mean rescind?

Yeah, I dont have all the time you have be a usless spelling nazi, because Im at work, but I thank you and am happy that my taxes go to a good cause, your welfare cheque.


Mind you I see you didn't make any mention of my post (as per normal) other than the usual spelling nazi activity that you singularly focus on.


So you must be embarassed that your statement is as hollow as you usual efforts.


You are such a loser, it make me laugh  ;D

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Never served one second of my life

They would have smelt the commie in you a mile away.

So you know nothing and rely on others that know nothing to spout nothingness about nothing that you know nothing about.

Maybe you should shut up and let the people who do know what they are talking about discuss without your ignornace getting in the way hmmm?

Greensprogress wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:29pm:

Quote: Never served one second of my life They would have smelt the commie in you a mile away. So you know nothing and rely on others that know nothing to spout nothingness about nothing that you know nothing about. Maybe you should shut up and let the people who do know what they are talking about discuss without your ignornace getting in the way hmmm?

When an abusive TROLL goes fishing on internet forums he rarely catches anything  :D

Greensprogress wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:36pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 4:32pm: Greensprogress wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 4:29pm: Quote: Never served one second of my life They would have smelt the commie in you a mile away. So you know nothing and rely on others that know nothing to spout nothingness about nothing that you know nothing about. Maybe you should shut up and let the people who do know what they are talking about discuss without your ignornace getting in the way hmmm? When an abusive TROLL goes fishing on internet forums he rarely catches anything  :D Speaking of catching something, did you and your mum get those scabs fixed up?

;D ;D ;D ;D Trollie

http://zipmeme.com/uploads/generated/g1338964568942672395.jpg

Greensprogress wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:29pm:

Quote: Never served one second of my life They would have smelt the commie in you a mile away. So you know nothing and rely on others that know nothing to spout nothingness about nothing that you know nothing about. Maybe you should shut up and let the people who do know what they are talking about discuss without your ignornace getting in the way hmmm?

Well there's you ruled out of the discussion...

Kat wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:45pm:

Greensprogress wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 4:29pm: Quote: Never served one second of my life They would have smelt the commie in you a mile away. So you know nothing and rely on others that know nothing to spout nothingness about nothing that you know nothing about. Maybe you should shut up and let the people who do know what they are talking about discuss without your ignornace getting in the way hmmm? Well there's you ruled out of the discussion...

Biting riposte there old fellow...pip pip wot?

http://cdn0.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2010/07/NetTroll.jpg

Trollie  :D

http://slodive.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/trolls/chickentroll.jpg

Our latest TROLL  :D

adelcrow wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:44pm:

Greensprogress wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 4:36pm: adelcrow wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 4:32pm: Greensprogress wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 4:29pm: Quote: Never served one second of my life They would have smelt the commie in you a mile away. So you know nothing and rely on others that know nothing to spout nothingness about nothing that you know nothing about. Maybe you should shut up and let the people who do know what they are talking about discuss without your ignornace getting in the way hmmm? When an abusive TROLL goes fishing on internet forums he rarely catches anything  :D Speaking of catching something, did you and your mum get those scabs fixed up? ;D ;D ;D ;D Trollie http://zipmeme.com/uploads/generated/g1338964568942672395.jpg

theres that racist again.. I wonder when the mods will catch up with this person

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 3:45pm: Conroy has the guts to say - "the emperor has no clothes." And 10 minutes later recide the inflamatory and false statment and appologise. This title is an understatement of his lowly character

do not under any circumstance expect an apology from a low life......and it would be worth zilch anyway...

he took a pasting in QT today...lol.. what a pity he wasnt there I would loved to have seen his ugly face...but he was well hidden wasnt he,..

poor old baldy  the combover doesn t fool anyone... ::) ::) had to sit there and grind his teeth... bronny took them on...

good on her.. after what they dished out they now sit there in silence whilst the poo hits them

HILARIOUS>

adelcrow wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:48pm:

http://cdn0.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2010/07/NetTroll.jpg Trollie  :D

will you stop posting up SELFIES we dont need to know what you look like...worse than krudd.

adelcrow wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:53pm:

http://slodive.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/trolls/chickentroll.jpg Our latest TROLL  :D

almost conroy to a T...need the red underpants on his head though..

and youve got him...a troll!!! thats unkind to trolls.. watch your mouth.

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 5:04pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 4:01pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 3:45pm: Conroy has the guts to say - "the emperor has no clothes." And 10 minutes later recide the inflamatory and false statment and appologise. This title is an understatement of his lowly character do not under any circumstance expect an apology from a low life......and it would be worth zilch anyway... he took a pasting in QT today...lol.. what a pity he wasnt there I would loved to have seen his ugly face...but he was well hidden wasnt he,.. poor old baldy  the combover doesn t fool anyone... ::) ::) had to sit there and grind his teeth... bronny took them on... good on her.. after what they dished out they now sit there in silence whilst the poo hits them HILARIOUS>

Yeas, the coward should have been there, cods.  Any idea where he was?

Here is codwallop rolling and roiling in the filth. So much easier than actually constructing an argument, isn’t it, codswallop?

Morrison and Abbott are liars and they are ordering the Navy to cover for them...Conroy told the truth so why is he a grub?

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 5:04pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 4:01pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 3:45pm: Conroy has the guts to say - "the emperor has no clothes." And 10 minutes later recide the inflamatory and false statment and appologise. This title is an understatement of his lowly character do not under any circumstance expect an apology from a low life......and it would be worth zilch anyway... he took a pasting in QT today...lol.. what a pity he wasnt there I would loved to have seen his ugly face...but he was well hidden wasnt he,.. poor old baldy  the combover doesn t fool anyone... ::) ::) had to sit there and grind his teeth... bronny took them on... good on her.. after what they dished out they now sit there in silence whilst the poo hits them HILARIOUS>

I've seen railway sleepers that aren't as thick as you.

adelcrow wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 5:12pm:

Morrison and Abbott are liars and they are ordering the Navy to cover for them...Conroy told the truth so why is he a grub?

The first part of the question answers the second part, I reckon.

Actually that was callous of me, I take it back. The individual in question probably has a medical condition. Please accept my apology.

This gutless little pr..k Conroy sits there and pontificates and berates Defence personnel who are thousand times more valuable than this spineless little bastard.

Brother what I wouldn't give to be  in a room with Conroy for five minutes, only trouble is he would most probably curl up in a corner and start crying, spineless little bugger hiding behind Imperial Senator title..Thinking colour him yellow. Never fronted an angry man.

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Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 4:17pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 4:01pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 3:45pm: Conroy has the guts to say - "the emperor has no clothes." And 10 minutes later recide the inflamatory and false statment and appologise. This title is an understatement of his lowly character No apology was given.  Get your facts right, Sunshine.

Yes you're correct, it was more of a shameful retraction and grubbly deflection wouldn't you say?

But he is a labor pollie so it was to be expected that he would disparage the character of the general and instead of apologising unreservedly, he would instead deflect and weasel out of any responsibility.



"When General Campbell began to reply that he had explained the reasons for the secrecy over border protection - he has often in the past cited operational reasons - Senator Conroy cut in, saying: ''You're engaged in a political cover-up.''
General Campbell replied that he took ''extreme offence'' at the remark.



Senator Conroy suggested to the Senate hearing that his attack the previous day had been aimed more at the Abbott government.
''I have no criticism whatsoever of service personnel carrying out government orders,'' he said."



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/general-david-hurley-defends-lieutenantgeneral-angus-campbell-after-labor-accusations-of-political-coverup-20140226-33gtk.html#ixzz2uPgZKahL

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 3:02pm:

for the nongs on here ....so the PM is not called the Commander in CHief..big deal. so what then is the title given to the PM.. we know they have a Minister of Defence... well I think that was the case before.. so anything goes now does it? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

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so the PM is not called the Commander in CHief

Good to see that you finally agree.


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so what then is the title given to the PM..

Prime Minister....There, that was easy, wasn't it......


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we know they have a Minister of Defence...

You ARE learning.

Excuse the creative editing.....
Just thought I'd cut out the crap.
;)

red baron wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 5:58pm:

This gutless little pr..k Conroy sits there and pontificates and berates Defence personnel who are thousand times more valuable than this spineless little bastard. Brother what I wouldn't give to be  in a room with Conroy for five minutes, only trouble is he would most probably curl up in a corner and start crying, spineless little bugger hiding behind Imperial Senator title..Thinking colour him yellow. Never fronted an angry man.

No.  There was Conroy, part of a Senate Estimates hearing who asked a question, and some ADF Uncle Tom LNP apologist refused to answer.

That makes him a bloke who is covering up what he and the LNP Government are up to.

He was carefully chosen to be the patsy if ever they needed one.  Someone less dazzled by the money and the ego would have realised that he was being set up to be an LNP  Uncle Tom General, and he fell right in.

Now he bleats when the politicians do what politicians do.  They ask questions and if they don't get an answer..............hell, don't be surprised if you get accused of 'covering up,' because it is 100% true.

The bloke entered a political arena, and whinged like a girly wimp when someone told him he was an integral part of LNP cover up.

Nah.  He should never have entered the kitchen.

He wanted the extra star.

adelcrow wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 5:12pm:

Morrison and Abbott are liars and they are ordering the Navy to cover for them...Conroy told the truth so why is he a grub?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7LrViaPq7M

adelcrow wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 5:12pm:

Morrison and Abbott are liars and they are ordering the Navy to cover for them...Conroy told the truth so why is he a grub?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7LrViaPq7M

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 6:15pm:

... and whinged like a girly wimp when someone told him he was an integral part of LNP cover up.

over egging the hyper bowl much? 

red baron wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 5:58pm:

This gutless little pr..k Conroy sits there and pontificates and berates Defence personnel who are thousand times more valuable than this spineless little bastard. Brother what I wouldn't give to be  in a room with Conroy for five minutes, only trouble is he would most probably curl up in a corner and start crying, spineless little bugger hiding behind Imperial Senator title..Thinking colour him yellow. Never fronted an angry man.

agreed Baron...

he's much like the scabby cowards on this forum sticking up for him...

this is one reason Nation Service should be brought back in... too many scabby cowards hiding behind their computer screens....

the defence of our boarders is a military operation...

and you don't give your enemy your operational plans...

derrrrr... its not rocket surgery...  ::)

the "sugar" is now well and truly off the table that Rudd put on...

I guess these Labrats and Greentards would want our police officers to give fair warning before they raided a house for Drugs and Weapons... it'd be only fair right?

its any wonder a lot of these loser LabGreenTards are sitting on the dole with no clue and of the real world and how it actually works...

they even spit in the faces of our brave Men and Women that give these lazy scum a SAFE easy life... they should be horse whipped along with conroy  >:(

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the defence of our boarders is a military operation...

The skando twins who are renting the room out the back?

The idea of blindly respecting structured authority seems to appeal to those who refuse to think for themselves. It breeds mindless automatons who need 'a uniform' to tell them who they are, 'the rules' to tell them how to act, 'their orders' to tell them what to do and 'a superior' to obey. I suspect behind the front, they are just frightened children.

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 6:41pm:

The idea of blindly respecting structured authority seems to appeal to those who refuse to think for themselves. It breeds mindless automatons who need 'a uniform' to tell them who they are, 'the rules' to tell them how to act, 'their orders' to tell them what to do and 'a superior' to obey. I suspect behind the front, they are just frightened children.

And I suspect you may be correct.

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 6:15pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 5:58pm: This gutless little pr..k Conroy sits there and pontificates and berates Defence personnel who are thousand times more valuable than this spineless little bastard. Brother what I wouldn't give to be  in a room with Conroy for five minutes, only trouble is he would most probably curl up in a corner and start crying, spineless little bugger hiding behind Imperial Senator title..Thinking colour him yellow. Never fronted an angry man. No.  There was Conroy, part of a Senate Estimates hearing who asked a question, and some ADF Uncle Tom LNP apologist refused to answer. That makes him a bloke who is covering up what he and the LNP Government are up to. He was carefully chosen to be the patsy if ever they needed one.  Someone less dazzled by the money and the ego would have realised that he was being set up to be an LNP  Uncle Tom General, and he fell right in. Now he bleats when the politicians do what politicians do.  They ask questions and if they don't get an answer..............hell, don't be surprised if you get accused of 'covering up,' because it is 100% true. The bloke entered a political arena, and whinged like a girly wimp when someone told him he was an integral part of LNP cover up. Nah.  He should never have entered the kitchen.

Remember that crap where you said you knew more than I did about tthis this border protection stuff, you don't, you know considerable less about this and pretty much everything.

In fact sir you are a dam twit, that is the most useless uninformed drivel written on this subject so far.


You should stop while the rest of us only think you are a retard with a keyboard, and not go for full confirmation.

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the defence of our boarders is a military operation...

Indeed.........against armed, aggressive invaders, but not against unarmed refugees seeking asylum.  That is an immigration issue, in which a Three Star General has zero relevance.

The events of the last 24 hours should have been quite an eye opener for him.  He stepped out of his military role, and took on a political one.  What he did not, and probably still has not, see/n was that he was being set up to be the patsy excuse if there is a stuff up.

Proof positive in Parliament today.  When the bovine stuff hits the fan, the LNP can orate utter rubbish about people like me disrespecting the Military, when in reality I too accuse the Uncle Tom of 'covering up' for his political masters.  He refused to answer a simple question.  That is a cover up in any man's language, including mine.

Then Operation Faux Patriotism kicks in.  "How dare you mere Citizens of Australia expect to be informed of what I do in your name, and paid for by you.  How dare you be nasty about our military heroes!"

Nah.

Conroy is a grub

No Conroy is an idiot but in this case an idiot who is right,  Abbott and Morrison well there is a pair of nice grubs for you.

Kat wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 6:46pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 6:41pm: The idea of blindly respecting structured authority seems to appeal to those who refuse to think for themselves. It breeds mindless automatons who need 'a uniform' to tell them who they are, 'the rules' to tell them how to act, 'their orders' to tell them what to do and 'a superior' to obey. I suspect behind the front, they are just frightened children. And I suspect you may be correct.

Looks like both of you are equally stupid.

But thanks to those people who do and have served this country over the years, you have the right to express that stupidity in this and any other forum.


Maybe next ANZAC day instead of being your usual pr1ck selves go and have a chat to a digger and soon you may realise just how big a pair of fkwits you are.


But then again, sadly you may not.


But the one thing we can all agree, that gutless cowards like yourselves would never say this sh1t to a digger's face

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 6:55pm:

Quote: the defence of our boarders is a military operation... Indeed.........against armed, aggressive invaders, but not against unarmed refugees seeking asylum.  That is an immigration issue, in which a Three Star General has zero relevance. The events of the last 24 hours should have been quite an eye opener for him.  He stepped out of his military role, and took on a political one.  What he did not, and probably still has not, see/n was that he was being set up to be the patsy excuse if there is a stuff up. Proof positive in Parliament today.  When the bovine stuff hits the fan, the LNP can orate utter rubbish about people like me disrespecting the Military, when in reality I too accuse the Uncle Tom of 'covering up' for his political masters.  He refused to answer a simple question.  That is a cover up in any man's language, including mine. Then Operation Faux Patriotism kicks in.  "How dare you mere Citizens of Australia expect to be informed of what I do in your name, and paid for by you.  How dare you be nasty about our military heroes!" Nah.

You mob still cant get your head around the fact that they are illegal economic reffo country shoppers who are launching from a transit country (called Indonesia , check the map) and as far as the majority are concerned are neither wanted or needed.The worlds largest Islamic democracy don't want them, why the bloody hell would we

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 6:55pm:

Quote: the defence of our boarders is a military operation... Indeed.........against armed, aggressive invaders, but not against unarmed refugees seeking asylum.  That is an immigration issue, in which a Three Star General has zero relevance. The events of the last 24 hours should have been quite an eye opener for him.  He stepped out of his military role, and took on a political one.  What he did not, and probably still has not, see/n was that he was being set up to be the patsy excuse if there is a stuff up. Proof positive in Parliament today.  When the bovine stuff hits the fan, the LNP can orate utter rubbish about people like me disrespecting the Military, when in reality I too accuse the Uncle Tom of 'covering up' for his political masters.  He refused to answer a simple question.  That is a cover up in any man's language, including mine. Then Operation Faux Patriotism kicks in.  "How dare you mere Citizens of Australia expect to be informed of what I do in your name, and paid for by you.  How dare you be nasty about our military heroes!" Nah.

Horsesh1t

Unless you want to present the evidence where he is now taken a political role; frig you people stoop as low a snake arse whith you crap.


If you don't like the way the ADF does it, tell your socialists mates  in canberra that you would be more than happy to do this job. The usual POS lefty will cower like a dog before lifting finger to do anything requiring effort and commitment.


So liar, any evidence about this political role, and don't use the well because he's there and I said so sh1t either actual valid evidence.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 6:55pm:

Conroy is a grub No Conroy is an idiot but in this case an idiot who is right,  Abbott and Morrison well there is a pair of nice grubs for you.

Really if he was so right why did he retract the statement and pretty much deny what he initially meant. Well besides the fact he is a POS.


If he can't stand by what he said I fail to see hopw you leftard can defend it.

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the defence of our boarders is a military operation...

Apparently not if they fly over it?

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Un;ess you want to present the evidence where he is now taken a political role;

Dunno what rock you have been under for the last 24 hours.

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 7:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 6:55pm: Conroy is a grub No Conroy is an idiot but in this case an idiot who is right,  Abbott and Morrison well there is a pair of nice grubs for you. Really if he was so right why did he retract the statement and pretty much deny what he initially meant. Well besides the fact he is a POS. If he can't stand by what he said I fail to see hopw you leftard can defend it.

Maybe you need to read the Senate Estimates transcript.

Conroy is a grub

Wish he would join the Lieberal party and qualify.

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 7:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 6:55pm: Conroy is a grub No Conroy is an idiot but in this case an idiot who is right,  Abbott and Morrison well there is a pair of nice grubs for you. Really if he was so right why did he retract the statement and pretty much deny what he initially meant. Well besides the fact he is a POS. If he can't stand by what he said I fail to see hopw you leftard can defend it.

Why the story the post and the topic if retracting the statement is meaningful ???

They all retract their insults when told too, the show stops till they do or they get a suspension.

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 7:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 6:55pm: Conroy is a grub No Conroy is an idiot but in this case an idiot who is right,  Abbott and Morrison well there is a pair of nice grubs for you. Really if he was so right why did he retract the statement and pretty much deny what he initially meant. Well besides the fact he is a POS. If he can't stand by what he said I fail to see hopw you leftard can defend it.

What is POS?

He is standing by what he said.  He made the same point today.  The General has put himself in the kitchen.  He gets some heat and runs off to Mummy. 

Aussie wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 7:16pm:

Quote: Un;ess you want to present the evidence where he is now taken a political role; Dunno what rock you have been under for the last 24 hours.

More like 5 months.