A local person employed by the Salvation Army has been accused of being a key assailant in the attack that led to the death of Iranian asylum seeker Reza Barati, staff employed at the Manus Island detention centre have said.

''Everyone knows who attacked him and is surprised no one has been taken into custody,'' a well-placed source said.

The Salvation Army has denied the allegation.

A spokesman for Papua New Guinea police confirmed on Sunday that no one had been taken into custody since Mr Berati's death a fortnight ago.

Sources on Manus Island said cleaning staff had scrubbed clean the detention centre, including the area where Mr Berati died, the morning after the fatal violence on February 17. There are concerns this could compromise a forensic investigation into his death.

Bullet casings and bullet holes at human height in the centre's walls were also found, staff who work at the centre said.

It now appears the attack that led to Mr Barati's death, and injuries to more than 60 asylum seekers, was an orchestrated response to a rolling protest that involved asylum seekers chanting ''F--k PNG'' and baring their buttocks.

An account pieced together from interviews with staff asserts that the lights were turned off in the area where the asylum seekers were injured soon before local police and locals employed by security contractor G4S and the Salvation Army entered the centre.

This account of Mr Barati's death is consistent with one told by relatives, who have spoken to a cousin who witnessed the attack.

It says Mr Barati was in the computer room when the violence began, returned to what he hoped would be the safety of his room, and then was attacked, allegedly by a local person employed by the Salvation Army. Mr Berati died after repeated blows to the head, most likely with a piece of timber, a PNG autopsy found last week.

Tension was also fanned by a chaotic handover of contracting work at the detention centre, from G4S and the Salvation Army to Transfield Services, sources said.

A spokesman for the Salvation Army said it had investigated claims that one of its employees was responsible for Mr Berati's death. ''We found absolutely no evidence that it occurred,'' he said.

After a visit to Papua New Guinea, Immigration Minister Scott Morrison said Australia and PNG would work to ''synthesise'' the various reviews into Mr Berati's death.

Mr Morrison said he hoped that integrating the Australian government's independent administrative review, the PNG police investigation and the coronial inquiry would give a clear statement of the facts.

The review by former public servant Robert Cornall will be done in partnership with, and with the participation of, the PNG government.

Australia and PNG will also hold a monthly joint ministerial forum to oversee the implementation of the regional resettlement agreement signed by the two countries last year.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/charity-worker-killed-reza-barati-says-insider-20140302-33u14.html

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claims that one of its employees was responsible for Mr Berati's death. ''We found absolutely no evidence that it occurred,''

Its a miracle - he is still alive according to the Salvo's ???

Here's me thinking the Salvo's had chaged policy and got into doing a bit of 'wet work'.  ;D  ;D


What an inciteful post, well worth the five minutes I wasted

It goes without saying then, that the greens with labor, got the boat smugglers to do their murder work and killed thousands for the greens and labor

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 6:29am:

Here's me thinking the Salvo's had chaged policy and got into doing a bit of 'wet work'.  ;D  ;D What an inciteful post, well worth the five minutes I wasted

Greens_Loser seems to be becoming more unhinged by the day...

Attacking the poster again a.p

You are so busy with raising that white flag.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 6:33am:

It goes without saying then, that the greens with labor, got the boat smugglers to do their murder work and killed thousands for the greens and labor

Australians Greens are not the government of Indonesia.

Try again

This time about the blood of Reaz Berati on Abbott's hands.

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 6:29am:

Here's me thinking the Salvo's had chaged policy and got into doing a bit of 'wet work'.  ;D  ;D What an inciteful post, well worth the five minutes I wasted

typical fairfax.. disgraceful...



____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 11:11pm:

It now appears the attack that led to Mr Barati's death, and injuries to more than 60 asylum seekers, was an orchestrated response to a rolling protest that involved asylum seekers chanting ''F--k PNG'' and baring their buttocks.

and greenswill wants this in this country....

and look at his headline.. another disgrace...

IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT...


YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 6:59am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 6:33am: It goes without saying then, that the greens with labor, got the boat smugglers to do their murder work and killed thousands for the greens and labor Australians Greens are not the government of Indonesia. Try again This time about the blood of Reaz Berati on Abbott's hands.

Try again. Abbott did not start or cause the riot at Manus. Abbott did not even create the border security problem - Rudd did. All that Abbott is doing is cleaning up Rudd's mess. Remember, it was Labor that re-opened Manus Island, not Abbott. Remember, it was Labor that invited people smugglers to restart their vile trade again, not Abbott. Manus Island wasn't needed until Labor stuffed up big-time because Howard stopped the boats and less than a dozen people were in detention when Rudd won office.

cods wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:08am:

IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM

Why did the Labor Party reopen Manus? Oh yeah - the Greens pressured them into trying onshore processing. What an appalling decision that was. Instead of a few boats a week, it was a few boats a day under onshore processing and the lawyers had a field day, costing taxpayers even more money! That was an abysmal disaster in every aspect.

cods wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:07am:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 6:29am: Here's me thinking the Salvo's had chaged policy and got into doing a bit of 'wet work'.  ;D  ;D What an inciteful post, well worth the five minutes I wasted typical fairfax.. disgraceful... ____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2014 at 11:11pm: It now appears the attack that led to Mr Barati's death, and injuries to more than 60 asylum seekers, was an orchestrated response to a rolling protest that involved asylum seekers chanting ''F--k PNG'' and baring their buttocks. and greenswill wants this in this country.... and look at his headline.. another disgrace...

You put any group of people in Abbott's concentrate camp and demonise them, persecute them, cut off the outside world to them, and then tell them they are in there for the long term and watch people riot.

Abbott and his supporters are a disgrace to humanity.

cods wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:08am:

IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM

Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them.

The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands.

Shame cods, Shame.

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:13am:

cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:07am: BigOl64 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 6:29am: Here's me thinking the Salvo's had chaged policy and got into doing a bit of 'wet work'.  ;D  ;D What an inciteful post, well worth the five minutes I wasted typical fairfax.. disgraceful... ____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2014 at 11:11pm: It now appears the attack that led to Mr Barati's death, and injuries to more than 60 asylum seekers, was an orchestrated response to a rolling protest that involved asylum seekers chanting ''F--k PNG'' and baring their buttocks. and greenswill wants this in this country.... and look at his headline.. another disgrace... You put any group of people in Abbott's concentrate camp and demonise them, persecute them, cut off the outside world to them, and then tell them they are in there for the long term and watch people riot. Abbott and his supporters are a disgrace to humanity.

No one forced them to come here and they knew very well what the new governments' policy is. I have zero sympathy for these queue-jumping economic migrants.

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:15am:

cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame.

Hardly. The boats had stopped under Howard. Just a few people remained in detention at the 07 election. Rudd made this issue a problem again when he scrapped the pacific Solution. Rudd & Gillard have the blood on their hands. Abbott and Morrison are simply trying to clean up after Labor's mess.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:15am:

____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:13am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:07am: BigOl64 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 6:29am: Here's me thinking the Salvo's had chaged policy and got into doing a bit of 'wet work'.  ;D  ;D What an inciteful post, well worth the five minutes I wasted typical fairfax.. disgraceful... ____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2014 at 11:11pm: It now appears the attack that led to Mr Barati's death, and injuries to more than 60 asylum seekers, was an orchestrated response to a rolling protest that involved asylum seekers chanting ''F--k PNG'' and baring their buttocks. and greenswill wants this in this country.... and look at his headline.. another disgrace... You put any group of people in Abbott's concentrate camp and demonise them, persecute them, cut off the outside world to them, and then tell them they are in there for the long term and watch people riot. Abbott and his supporters are a disgrace to humanity. No one forced them to come here and they knew very well what the new governments' policy is. I have zero sympathy for these queue-jumping economic migrants.

You are a liar, they are not economic migrants and thats why abbott refused to process them  … because the majority are refugees.

Meanwhile economic migrants choose to come in via plane and then apply for refugee status and you support them.

Hypocrite.

Oh crap, the Pacific (non)Solution was just trickery and misdirection. Over a billion dollars wasted.

St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:20am:

Oh crap, the Pacific (non)Solution was just trickery and misdirection. Over a billion dollars wasted.

It actually cost less than $100m per year to run the Pacific Solution, as opposed to Labor's non-solution that has cost more than $2bn per year to run. Try again!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:17am:

____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame. Hardly. The boats had stopped under Howard. Just a few people remained in detention at the 07 election. Rudd made this issue a problem again when he scrapped the pacific Solution. Rudd & Gillard have the blood on their hands. Abbott and Morrison are simply trying to clean up after Labor's mess.

They are not. Abbott is putting these people in concentration camps and ignoring the $5 trillion in taxes it will end up costing.

This is the first stage, next there will be concentration camps in Australia with Australians in them.

Slippery slop logic … apply it before denying the mean spirited black hearts at the core of every abbott supporting conservative.

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:20am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:13am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:07am: BigOl64 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 6:29am: Here's me thinking the Salvo's had chaged policy and got into doing a bit of 'wet work'.  ;D  ;D What an inciteful post, well worth the five minutes I wasted typical fairfax.. disgraceful... ____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2014 at 11:11pm: It now appears the attack that led to Mr Barati's death, and injuries to more than 60 asylum seekers, was an orchestrated response to a rolling protest that involved asylum seekers chanting ''F--k PNG'' and baring their buttocks. and greenswill wants this in this country.... and look at his headline.. another disgrace... You put any group of people in Abbott's concentrate camp and demonise them, persecute them, cut off the outside world to them, and then tell them they are in there for the long term and watch people riot. Abbott and his supporters are a disgrace to humanity. No one forced them to come here and they knew very well what the new governments' policy is. I have zero sympathy for these queue-jumping economic migrants. You are a liar, they are not economic migrants and thats why abbott refused to process them  … because the majority are refugees. Meanwhile economic migrants choose to come in via plane and then apply for refugee status and you support them. Hypocrite.

(a) Many of them are granted refugee status by default simply because authorities cannot verify their claims due to the FACT that these people destroy their passports and anything else that can be used to identify them. This also stops the government from sending them back, because if we can't be certain of where they are from, we cannot very well deport them.

(b) If there are people coming by plane, this doesn't bother me as much simply because we know who they are, where they are from because they have a passport with them and they are not putting our Navy and Customs personnel's lives at risk on the ocean.

No hypocrisy to be seen here. Move along, please.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:27am:

____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:20am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:13am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:07am: BigOl64 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 6:29am: Here's me thinking the Salvo's had chaged policy and got into doing a bit of 'wet work'.  ;D  ;D What an inciteful post, well worth the five minutes I wasted typical fairfax.. disgraceful... ____ wrote on Mar 2nd, 2014 at 11:11pm: It now appears the attack that led to Mr Barati's death, and injuries to more than 60 asylum seekers, was an orchestrated response to a rolling protest that involved asylum seekers chanting ''F--k PNG'' and baring their buttocks. and greenswill wants this in this country.... and look at his headline.. another disgrace... You put any group of people in Abbott's concentrate camp and demonise them, persecute them, cut off the outside world to them, and then tell them they are in there for the long term and watch people riot. Abbott and his supporters are a disgrace to humanity. No one forced them to come here and they knew very well what the new governments' policy is. I have zero sympathy for these queue-jumping economic migrants. You are a liar, they are not economic migrants and thats why abbott refused to process them  … because the majority are refugees. Meanwhile economic migrants choose to come in via plane and then apply for refugee status and you support them. Hypocrite. (a) Many of them are granted refugee status by default simply because authorities cannot verify their claims due to the FACT that these people destroy their passports and anything else that can be used to identify them. This also stops the government from sending them back, because if we can't be certain of where they are from, we cannot very well deport them. (b) If there are people coming by plane, this doesn't bother me as much simply because we know who they are, where they are from because they have a passport with them and they are not putting our Navy and Customs personnel's lives at risk on the ocean. No hypocrisy to be seen here. Move along, please.

There is a thriving business with people smugglers for fake documentaion.

MELBOURNE: An Indian-origin migration agent and his wife face up to 10 years in jail after being accused of running a visa scam in which clients paid for fake marriages to Australian women to enter the country.

The agent and his wedding celebrant wife — Chetan Mohanlal Mashru and Divya Krishne Gowda — were accused of allegedly running visa racket, media reports here said.

Two days ago, Australian Federal Police arrested Mumbai-born Mashru and his Australia-born wife at their Oxley unit in Brisbane's southwest.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/nri/other-news/Indian-origin-couple-charged-over-alleged-visa-scam-in-Australia/articleshow/30336744.cms


Economic migrants with money would more likely come by plane with fake id than leaky boat without any.

Terrorists are more likely to enter via plane with fake ids.
Abbott is ignoring the terrorist threat from migrants who come in via planes with fake id.

And you claiming that people without documentation are not refugees just exposies your xenophobia, nothing else.

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:24am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:17am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame. Hardly. The boats had stopped under Howard. Just a few people remained in detention at the 07 election. Rudd made this issue a problem again when he scrapped the pacific Solution. Rudd & Gillard have the blood on their hands. Abbott and Morrison are simply trying to clean up after Labor's mess. They are not. Abbott is putting these people in concentration camps and ignoring the $5 trillion in taxes it will end up costing. This is the first stage, next there will be concentration camps in Australia with Australians in them. Slippery slop logic … apply it before denying the mean spirited black hearts at the core of every abbott supporting conservative.

WHO OPENED THE FLOOD GATES.....WHO WHO WHO WHO WHO



lets see you own that >>FACT

Hahahahahaha G_W

You poor hysterical LOLtard.

You’d be better off telling these country shoppers to stay the bugger home.

;)

Then there would be no deaths on the TV for you to worry about.

;D ;D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:17am:

____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame. Hardly. The boats had stopped under Howard. Just a few people remained in detention at the 07 election. Rudd made this issue a problem again when he scrapped the pacific Solution. Rudd & Gillard have the blood on their hands. Abbott and Morrison are simply trying to clean up after Labor's mess.

No.  Abbott and Morrison are hiding behind toy soldiers and refusing to tell us what is happening.  THey have not "stopped the boats".  They have simply stopped the information.

And while it was certainly appalling that Rudd reopened Howard's concentration camp in Manus - at least no one was murdered there in his time.  The last 5 months with Scotty in charge just seems to have descended into complete incompetence.

Why are we wasting $900 per day per detainee on these offshore concentration camps, rather than just meeting our international legal responsibilities and and processing asylum seekers in an efficient and humane manner in Australia?

rabbitoh08 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 8:11am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:17am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame. Hardly. The boats had stopped under Howard. Just a few people remained in detention at the 07 election. Rudd made this issue a problem again when he scrapped the pacific Solution. Rudd & Gillard have the blood on their hands. Abbott and Morrison are simply trying to clean up after Labor's mess. No.  Abbott and Morrison are hiding behind toy soldiers and refusing to tell us what is happening.  THey have not "stopped the boats".  They have simply stopped the information. And while it was certainly appalling that Rudd reopened Howard's concentration camp in Manus - at least no one was murdered there in his time.  The last 5 months with Scotty in charge just seems to have descended into complete incompetence. Why are we wasting $900 per day per detainee on these offshore concentration camps, rather than just meeting our international legal responsibilities and and processing asylum seekers in an efficient and humane manner in Australia?

(a) Because Rudd allowed people smugglers to resume their trade when he dismantled the highly successful pacific Solution. People in detention at 07 election: less than a dozen. People who have arrived since: 50,000+. Those numbers are fact and destroy your weak argument.

(b)Labor tried processing them in Australia and it was an unmitigated disaster. Boat arrivals went from 3-4 a week to 2-3 a day under onshore processing. Laywers also had a field day, filing one appeal after another, costing taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars. Labor finally realised that onshore processing was an abject failure and re-opened Manus Island (after a clumsy and incompetent attempt at using East Timor, until they told Gillard to smack off).

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:24am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:17am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame. Hardly. The boats had stopped under Howard. Just a few people remained in detention at the 07 election. Rudd made this issue a problem again when he scrapped the pacific Solution. Rudd & Gillard have the blood on their hands. Abbott and Morrison are simply trying to clean up after Labor's mess. They are not. Abbott is putting these people in concentration camps and ignoring the $5 trillion in taxes it will end up costing. This is the first stage, next there will be concentration camps in Australia with Australians in them. Slippery slop logic … apply it before denying the mean spirited black hearts at the core of every abbott supporting conservative.

five trillion dollars in taxes from a 1.5 trillion dollar economy?

you are a moron.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:24am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:20am: Oh crap, the Pacific (non)Solution was just trickery and misdirection. Over a billion dollars wasted. It actually cost less than $100m per year to run the Pacific Solution, as opposed to Labor's non-solution that has cost more than $2bn per year to run. Try again!

No, it cost $1.2Bn.

Had to build the prison camp first. . .

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:15am:

cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame.

One riotous individual compared to greens thousands dead. I can live with that

As Manus fills up, as the desperation builds riots will become larger and deadlier.

At some stage the camp will have to be moved.

St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 9:41am:

As Manus fills up, as the desperation builds riots will become larger and deadlier. At some stage the camp will have to be moved.

Thank bugger Rudd isn’t in PM.

Imagine his policy of “you can all go and rot on PNG” along side no hard line on boats?

There would be 1000’s more on Manus and the death toll would be huge.

Stupid ALP morons.... ::)

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 8:32am:

____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:24am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:17am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame. Hardly. The boats had stopped under Howard. Just a few people remained in detention at the 07 election. Rudd made this issue a problem again when he scrapped the pacific Solution. Rudd & Gillard have the blood on their hands. Abbott and Morrison are simply trying to clean up after Labor's mess. They are not. Abbott is putting these people in concentration camps and ignoring the $5 trillion in taxes it will end up costing. This is the first stage, next there will be concentration camps in Australia with Australians in them. Slippery slop logic … apply it before denying the mean spirited black hearts at the core of every abbott supporting conservative. five trillion dollars in taxes from a 1.5 trillion dollar economy? you are a nice person.

An open ended … i.e without end ...policy costings of $5 trillion … verses your annual economy value

apples to oranges



Got it now old man.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 9:07am:

____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame. One riotous individual compared to greens thousands dead. I can live with that

Hundreds of thousands will now drown because of Abbott's hatred of humans.

Conservatives have just rearranged the deckchairs on the titanic, not stopped the sinkings.

Meanwhile they are murdering the refugees in their care.

I suspect that the luvvies would not be nearly so vocal if a Labor government was in,  they were remarkably silent over six years of drownings and previous legislation smacking over country shoppers.

Hardly a peep was heard about mandatory detention, excising the mainland, no more English and vocational training, not allowed to work PLUS no dole or a reduced dole in exceptional circumstances, no advantage policy,  suspended the processing of all new immigration claims from Sri Lankan and Afghan asylum seekers and the send'em the bugger to PNG to be raped and chopped up legislation.

But now the howling is loud and sustained that a political advantage can be seen.

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 9:54am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:07am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame. One riotous individual compared to greens thousands dead. I can live with that Hundreds of thousands will now drown because of Abbott's hatred of humans. Conservatives have just rearranged the deckchairs on the titanic, not stopped the sinkings. Meanwhile they are murdering the refugees in their care.

At this rate of 1 death in 6 months, the greens will have murdered hundreds of thousands more than the liberals in the future

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 10:12am:

____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:54am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:07am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame. One riotous individual compared to greens thousands dead. I can live with that Hundreds of thousands will now drown because of Abbott's hatred of humans. Conservatives have just rearranged the deckchairs on the titanic, not stopped the sinkings. Meanwhile they are murdering the refugees in their care. At this rate of 1 death in 6 months, the greens will have murdered hundreds of thousands more than the liberals in the future

By Abbott reducing the number of countries refugees can flee to for safety, refugees will take greater risks and this will increase the death toll.

And with AGW millions trying to find safe havens, will conservatives still run concentration camps that will cripple Australia financially?

yopu are a disgrace greenswill.. murder is a very very strong word...like to see you face the court and spew like you do on here..

as progds has pointed out.. you have nothing to be proud of.. 1100 buried at sea.. and god only knows how many still missing...

hang your head in shame..I will always blame the greens for what happened over that 6 years...

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 10:37am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 10:12am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:54am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:07am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame. One riotous individual compared to greens thousands dead. I can live with that Hundreds of thousands will now drown because of Abbott's hatred of humans. Conservatives have just rearranged the deckchairs on the titanic, not stopped the sinkings. Meanwhile they are murdering the refugees in their care. At this rate of 1 death in 6 months, the greens will have murdered hundreds of thousands more than the liberals in the future By Abbott reducing the number of countries refugees can flee to for safety, refugees will take greater risks and this will increase the death toll. And with AGW millions trying to find safe havens, will conservatives still run concentration camps that will cripple Australia financially?

what the hell are you on about... since when do other countries close their borders at Abbott request..

are you ever losing reality..for goodness sake.. see a doctor.

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 10:37am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 10:12am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:54am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:07am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame. One riotous individual compared to greens thousands dead. I can live with that Hundreds of thousands will now drown because of Abbott's hatred of humans. Conservatives have just rearranged the deckchairs on the titanic, not stopped the sinkings. Meanwhile they are murdering the refugees in their care. At this rate of 1 death in 6 months, the greens will have murdered hundreds of thousands more than the liberals in the future By Abbott reducing the number of countries refugees can flee to for safety, refugees will take greater risks and this will increase the death toll. And with AGW millions trying to find safe havens, will conservatives still run concentration camps that will cripple Australia financially?

You want AGW "refugees" to come here as well!!!

Oh sooooo LOL

You're a few card short aren't ya?

;D ;D ;D

Quote:

Tension was also fanned by a chaotic handover of contracting work at the detention centre, from G4S and the Salvation Army to Transfield Services, sources said. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/charity-worker-killed-reza-barati-says-insider-20140302-33u14.html

Morrison blamed Labor for the death and riot because they had appointed the security firm that runs the facility......Now we know it was decisions Morrison made that lead to the violence.....Will this Government ever take responsibility for what it has done???

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Quote:

Transfield Services has a $1.2 billion contract to manage the two offshore centres. Mr Bowles said G4S lost the security contract at Manus Island late last year because the department wanted one service provider to cover both centres and not because of performance issues.

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 10:37am:

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 10:12am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:54am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:07am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame. One riotous individual compared to greens thousands dead. I can live with that Hundreds of thousands will now drown because of Abbott's hatred of humans. Conservatives have just rearranged the deckchairs on the titanic, not stopped the sinkings. Meanwhile they are murdering the refugees in their care. At this rate of 1 death in 6 months, the greens will have murdered hundreds of thousands more than the liberals in the future By Abbott reducing the number of countries refugees can flee to for safety, refugees will take greater risks and this will increase the death toll. And with AGW millions trying to find safe havens, will conservatives still run concentration camps that will cripple Australia financially?

Lol you should live in whatanobby

You use one pathetic guess after another pathetic guess.

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 11:10am:

Quote: Tension was also fanned by a chaotic handover of contracting work at the detention centre, from G4S and the Salvation Army to Transfield Services, sources said. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/charity-worker-killed-reza-barati-says-insider-20140302-33u14.html Morrison blamed Labor for the death and riot because they had appointed the security firm that runs the facility......Now we know it was decisions Morrison made that lead to the violence.....Will this Government ever take responsibility for what it has done??? [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [quote]Transfield Services has a $1.2 billion contract to manage the two offshore centres. Mr Bowles said G4S lost the security contract at Manus Island late last year because the department wanted one service provider to cover both centres and not because of performance issues.

[/quote]


That’s why you lay the blame in the correct place.

And that is the person that paid the people smuggler to take them across Australia’s border.

This country shopper should have stayed home.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 11:15am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:10am: Quote: Tension was also fanned by a chaotic handover of contracting work at the detention centre, from G4S and the Salvation Army to Transfield Services, sources said. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/charity-worker-killed-reza-barati-says-insider-20140302-33u14.html Morrison blamed Labor for the death and riot because they had appointed the security firm that runs the facility......Now we know it was decisions Morrison made that lead to the violence.....Will this Government ever take responsibility for what it has done??? [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [quote]Transfield Services has a $1.2 billion contract to manage the two offshore centres. Mr Bowles said G4S lost the security contract at Manus Island late last year because the department wanted one service provider to cover both centres and not because of performance issues.

That’s why you lay the blame in the correct place.

And that is the person that paid the people smuggler to take them across Australia’s border.

This country shopper should have stayed home.


[/quote]

So now we have Coalition supporters blaming asylum seekers for their own deaths whilst in Australian care.....So much for the fake remorse about asylum seekers drowning trying to reach Australia.....The Coalition and ALP are heartless bastards IMO.....Our treatment of minorities reflects badly on our nation as a whole....Australia is not above criticism when it comes to the way we treat innocent people!!!

>:( >:( >:(

FriYAY wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 10:53am:

____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 10:37am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 10:12am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:54am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:07am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame. One riotous individual compared to greens thousands dead. I can live with that Hundreds of thousands will now drown because of Abbott's hatred of humans. Conservatives have just rearranged the deckchairs on the titanic, not stopped the sinkings. Meanwhile they are murdering the refugees in their care. At this rate of 1 death in 6 months, the greens will have murdered hundreds of thousands more than the liberals in the future By Abbott reducing the number of countries refugees can flee to for safety, refugees will take greater risks and this will increase the death toll. And with AGW millions trying to find safe havens, will conservatives still run concentration camps that will cripple Australia financially? You want AGW "refugees" to come here as well!!! Oh sooooo LOL You're a few card short aren't ya? ;D ;D ;D

I would prefer the world took the ecological debt we are adding to and have hanging over our heads more seriously and  do things like price pollution and shift the world to 100% renewable energy. Until then we might as well start considering a rapidly collapsing clomate and human society and the consequences this will bring.


Before Australia disintergrates via war and famine, should we set up more concentration camps so to punish people for not dying elsewhere.

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 11:31am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:15am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:10am: Quote: Tension was also fanned by a chaotic handover of contracting work at the detention centre, from G4S and the Salvation Army to Transfield Services, sources said. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/charity-worker-killed-reza-barati-says-insider-20140302-33u14.html Morrison blamed Labor for the death and riot because they had appointed the security firm that runs the facility......Now we know it was decisions Morrison made that lead to the violence.....Will this Government ever take responsibility for what it has done??? [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [quote]Transfield Services has a $1.2 billion contract to manage the two offshore centres. Mr Bowles said G4S lost the security contract at Manus Island late last year because the department wanted one service provider to cover both centres and not because of performance issues. That’s why you lay the blame in the correct place. And that is the person that paid the people smuggler to take them across Australia’s border. This country shopper should have stayed home.

So now we have Coalition supporters blaming asylum seekers for their own deaths whilst in Australian care.....So much for the fake remorse about asylum seekers drowning trying to reach Australia.....The Coalition and ALP are heartless bastards IMO.....Our treatment of minorities reflects badly on our nation as a whole....Australia is not above criticism when it comes to the way we treat innocent people!!!

>:( >:( >:([/quote]

Good job "your opinion" means sweet FA then isn't it......... [smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif]

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 11:31am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:15am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:10am: Quote: Tension was also fanned by a chaotic handover of contracting work at the detention centre, from G4S and the Salvation Army to Transfield Services, sources said. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/charity-worker-killed-reza-barati-says-insider-20140302-33u14.html Morrison blamed Labor for the death and riot because they had appointed the security firm that runs the facility......Now we know it was decisions Morrison made that lead to the violence.....Will this Government ever take responsibility for what it has done??? [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [quote]Transfield Services has a $1.2 billion contract to manage the two offshore centres. Mr Bowles said G4S lost the security contract at Manus Island late last year because the department wanted one service provider to cover both centres and not because of performance issues. That’s why you lay the blame in the correct place. And that is the person that paid the people smuggler to take them across Australia’s border. This country shopper should have stayed home.

So now we have Coalition supporters blaming asylum seekers for their own deaths whilst in Australian care.....So much for the fake remorse about asylum seekers drowning trying to reach Australia.....The Coalition and ALP are heartless bastards IMO.....Our treatment of minorities reflects badly on our nation as a whole....Australia is not above criticism when it comes to the way we treat innocent people!!!

>:( >:( >:([/quote]

I have no fake remorse.

I don’t care how many drown.

Stay home unwanted country shoppers.

Stop paying people smugglers to bring you to OZ.

viewpoint wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 11:36am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:31am: FriYAY wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:15am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:10am: Quote: Tension was also fanned by a chaotic handover of contracting work at the detention centre, from G4S and the Salvation Army to Transfield Services, sources said. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/charity-worker-killed-reza-barati-says-insider-20140302-33u14.html Morrison blamed Labor for the death and riot because they had appointed the security firm that runs the facility......Now we know it was decisions Morrison made that lead to the violence.....Will this Government ever take responsibility for what it has done??? [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [quote]Transfield Services has a $1.2 billion contract to manage the two offshore centres. Mr Bowles said G4S lost the security contract at Manus Island late last year because the department wanted one service provider to cover both centres and not because of performance issues. That’s why you lay the blame in the correct place. And that is the person that paid the people smuggler to take them across Australia’s border. This country shopper should have stayed home. So now we have Coalition supporters blaming asylum seekers for their own deaths whilst in Australian care.....So much for the fake remorse about asylum seekers drowning trying to reach Australia.....The Coalition and ALP are heartless bastards IMO.....Our treatment of minorities reflects badly on our nation as a whole....Australia is not above criticism when it comes to the way we treat innocent people!!! >:( >:( >:(

Good job "your opinion" means sweet FA then isn't it......... [smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif]
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Get an education, you are embarrassing yourself!!!

::) ::) ::)

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
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FriYAY wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 11:37am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:31am: FriYAY wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:15am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:10am: Quote: Tension was also fanned by a chaotic handover of contracting work at the detention centre, from G4S and the Salvation Army to Transfield Services, sources said. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/charity-worker-killed-reza-barati-says-insider-20140302-33u14.html Morrison blamed Labor for the death and riot because they had appointed the security firm that runs the facility......Now we know it was decisions Morrison made that lead to the violence.....Will this Government ever take responsibility for what it has done??? [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [quote]Transfield Services has a $1.2 billion contract to manage the two offshore centres. Mr Bowles said G4S lost the security contract at Manus Island late last year because the department wanted one service provider to cover both centres and not because of performance issues. That’s why you lay the blame in the correct place. And that is the person that paid the people smuggler to take them across Australia’s border. This country shopper should have stayed home. So now we have Coalition supporters blaming asylum seekers for their own deaths whilst in Australian care.....So much for the fake remorse about asylum seekers drowning trying to reach Australia.....The Coalition and ALP are heartless bastards IMO.....Our treatment of minorities reflects badly on our nation as a whole....Australia is not above criticism when it comes to the way we treat innocent people!!! >:( >:( >:(

I have no fake remorse.

I don’t care how many drown.

Stay home unwanted country shoppers.

Stop paying people smugglers to bring you to OZ.

[/quote]

Fair enough.....At least you are not pretending you care about other people to score political points.....The hypocrisy shown by others on this forum is just embarrassing to watch!!!

:-[ :-[ :-[

It's great to see someone like FriYAY, with such a humanitarian attitude.

While the rest of you play pass the parcel, people continue to be locked in a concentration camp, queuing for food, water and toilets and with inadequate medical facilities.

Manus Island remains Australia's shame.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 11:37am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:31am: FriYAY wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:15am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:10am: Quote: Tension was also fanned by a chaotic handover of contracting work at the detention centre, from G4S and the Salvation Army to Transfield Services, sources said. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/charity-worker-killed-reza-barati-says-insider-20140302-33u14.html Morrison blamed Labor for the death and riot because they had appointed the security firm that runs the facility......Now we know it was decisions Morrison made that lead to the violence.....Will this Government ever take responsibility for what it has done??? [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [quote]Transfield Services has a $1.2 billion contract to manage the two offshore centres. Mr Bowles said G4S lost the security contract at Manus Island late last year because the department wanted one service provider to cover both centres and not because of performance issues. That’s why you lay the blame in the correct place. And that is the person that paid the people smuggler to take them across Australia’s border. This country shopper should have stayed home. So now we have Coalition supporters blaming asylum seekers for their own deaths whilst in Australian care.....So much for the fake remorse about asylum seekers drowning trying to reach Australia.....The Coalition and ALP are heartless bastards IMO.....Our treatment of minorities reflects badly on our nation as a whole....Australia is not above criticism when it comes to the way we treat innocent people!!! >:( >:( >:(

I have no fake remorse.

I don’t care how many drown.

Stay home unwanted country shoppers.

Stop paying people smugglers to bring you to OZ.

[/quote]


It's people like this I'd like to see removed from our country.

Scum like this don't deserve to live here.

Dnarever wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 6:19am:

Quote: claims that one of its employees was responsible for Mr Berati's death. ''We found absolutely no evidence that [highlight]it occurred,[/highlight]'' Its a miracle - he is still alive according to the Salvo's ???

I read that differently, smithy...
Perhaps badly worded, but I thought the "it" referred the salvo worker having done the deed.

As in....

''We found absolutely no evidence that (one of our employees was responsible for Mr Berati's death) occurred.

:)

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 9:50am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:32am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:24am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:17am: ____ wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:15am: cods wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:08am: IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN GREEN... THE LABOR PARTY OPENED MANUS... AND PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE ON IT... YOU REMEMBER THE LABOR PARTY DONT YOU YOUR PARTY JUMPED INTO BED WITH THEM i Max 5500 characters. Remaining characters:  Text size: pt Labor is not in government. When they were, Greens and there supporters critcised them. The blood on hands are on Abbott and his supporters. You have blood on your hands. Shame cods, Shame. Hardly. The boats had stopped under Howard. Just a few people remained in detention at the 07 election. Rudd made this issue a problem again when he scrapped the pacific Solution. Rudd & Gillard have the blood on their hands. Abbott and Morrison are simply trying to clean up after Labor's mess. They are not. Abbott is putting these people in concentration camps and ignoring the $5 trillion in taxes it will end up costing. This is the first stage, next there will be concentration camps in Australia with Australians in them. Slippery slop logic … apply it before denying the mean spirited black hearts at the core of every abbott supporting conservative. five trillion dollars in taxes from a 1.5 trillion dollar economy? you are a nice person. An open ended … i.e without end ...policy costings of $5 trillion … verses your annual economy value apples to oranges Got it now old man.

open-ended until when you m-o-r-o-n the year 4000AD?

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 4:16pm:

It's people like this I'd like to see removed from our country. Scum like this don't deserve to live here.

So making it mandatory to care for all 7 billion people on this planet on a personal level is the next good idea from the chattering class is it?


How about no.

I've tried to read page 3 a number of times now, but I keep getting a headache.

Someone keeps yelling......

;)  [smiley=thumbdown.gif]

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 4:16pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:37am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:31am: FriYAY wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:15am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:10am: Quote: Tension was also fanned by a chaotic handover of contracting work at the detention centre, from G4S and the Salvation Army to Transfield Services, sources said. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/charity-worker-killed-reza-barati-says-insider-20140302-33u14.html Morrison blamed Labor for the death and riot because they had appointed the security firm that runs the facility......Now we know it was decisions Morrison made that lead to the violence.....Will this Government ever take responsibility for what it has done??? [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [quote]Transfield Services has a $1.2 billion contract to manage the two offshore centres. Mr Bowles said G4S lost the security contract at Manus Island late last year because the department wanted one service provider to cover both centres and not because of performance issues. That’s why you lay the blame in the correct place. And that is the person that paid the people smuggler to take them across Australia’s border. This country shopper should have stayed home. So now we have Coalition supporters blaming asylum seekers for their own deaths whilst in Australian care.....So much for the fake remorse about asylum seekers drowning trying to reach Australia.....The Coalition and ALP are heartless bastards IMO.....Our treatment of minorities reflects badly on our nation as a whole....Australia is not above criticism when it comes to the way we treat innocent people!!! >:( >:( >:( I have no fake remorse. I don’t care how many drown. Stay home unwanted country shoppers. Stop paying people smugglers to bring you to OZ.

It's people like this I'd like to see removed from our country.

Scum like this don't deserve to live here.


[/quote]You had better not vote for the greens. They let thousands of people drown on principle. Can you get any worse a murderer.

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 9:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 4:16pm: FriYAY wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:37am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:31am: FriYAY wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:15am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:10am: Quote: Tension was also fanned by a chaotic handover of contracting work at the detention centre, from G4S and the Salvation Army to Transfield Services, sources said. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/charity-worker-killed-reza-barati-says-insider-20140302-33u14.html Morrison blamed Labor for the death and riot because they had appointed the security firm that runs the facility......Now we know it was decisions Morrison made that lead to the violence.....Will this Government ever take responsibility for what it has done??? [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [quote]Transfield Services has a $1.2 billion contract to manage the two offshore centres. Mr Bowles said G4S lost the security contract at Manus Island late last year because the department wanted one service provider to cover both centres and not because of performance issues. That’s why you lay the blame in the correct place. And that is the person that paid the people smuggler to take them across Australia’s border. This country shopper should have stayed home. So now we have Coalition supporters blaming asylum seekers for their own deaths whilst in Australian care.....So much for the fake remorse about asylum seekers drowning trying to reach Australia.....The Coalition and ALP are heartless bastards IMO.....Our treatment of minorities reflects badly on our nation as a whole....Australia is not above criticism when it comes to the way we treat innocent people!!! >:( >:( >:( I have no fake remorse. I don’t care how many drown. Stay home unwanted country shoppers. Stop paying people smugglers to bring you to OZ. It's people like this I'd like to see removed from our country. Scum like this don't deserve to live here.

You had better not vote for the greens. They let thousands of people drown on principle. Can you get any worse a murderer.
[/quote]


How. Are the Greens the government of Indonesia?

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 4:11pm:

It's great to see someone like FriYAY, with such a humanitarian attitude. While the rest of you play pass the parcel, people continue to be locked in a concentration camp, queuing for food, water and toilets and with inadequate medical facilities. Manus Island remains Australia's shame.

People should stop coming then.

There's 50 million displaced people around the world we can help, country shoppers paying people to smuggle them over our borders can "go back to the end of the queue". :)

Manus Is. is a means to an end of people smuggling operations.

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 4:16pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:37am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:31am: FriYAY wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:15am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 11:10am: Quote: Tension was also fanned by a chaotic handover of contracting work at the detention centre, from G4S and the Salvation Army to Transfield Services, sources said. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/charity-worker-killed-reza-barati-says-insider-20140302-33u14.html Morrison blamed Labor for the death and riot because they had appointed the security firm that runs the facility......Now we know it was decisions Morrison made that lead to the violence.....Will this Government ever take responsibility for what it has done??? [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [quote]Transfield Services has a $1.2 billion contract to manage the two offshore centres. Mr Bowles said G4S lost the security contract at Manus Island late last year because the department wanted one service provider to cover both centres and not because of performance issues. That’s why you lay the blame in the correct place. And that is the person that paid the people smuggler to take them across Australia’s border. This country shopper should have stayed home. So now we have Coalition supporters blaming asylum seekers for their own deaths whilst in Australian care.....So much for the fake remorse about asylum seekers drowning trying to reach Australia.....The Coalition and ALP are heartless bastards IMO.....Our treatment of minorities reflects badly on our nation as a whole....Australia is not above criticism when it comes to the way we treat innocent people!!! >:( >:( >:( I have no fake remorse. I don’t care how many drown. Stay home unwanted country shoppers. Stop paying people smugglers to bring you to OZ.

It's people like this I'd like to see removed from our country.

Scum like this don't deserve to live here.


[/quote]

;D ;D ;D

Don't come via people smuggling operations, don't drown, don't die in detention.

Find some humanity and help these people Uncle you sadist.

For a start, its the Labour Government who first introduced the PNG solution, which mind you is a alot tougher than PM John Howards original pacific solution.   At least back then, most of the asylum seeker eventually get to resettle in either Australia or New Zealand.  And now, they have no chance. 

PM Tony Abbott was looking for a tough policy, but then PM Kevin Rudd handed him one free of charge!  So naturally, been a more conservative government, its thank you very much PM Rudd  :).   

Personally, I really feel sorry for the people who are stuck in PNG, they really have no future.  But then, they are not the only ones, there are millions of other out there who are facing the exact same thing.  At least, the person who died, he had family back home who misses him, and prayed for him.  But there are millions others who did not even have a home or family left. 

The refugee intake per year is determined by the government.  In the past we had been accepting more boat arrivals, and less so with other mode of intake.   But now, we have less boat arrivals, and increased other mode of intake.  So in balance, very little have changed unless the government cut back the annual refugee intake in the future.   

I actually think the reverse, I think PM Tony Abbott is hard on the outside, but like PM John Howard he is soft on the inside.   No matter how 'hardline' that he appears to the public, Australia still have a robust refugee resettlement program anyway.   :)

Back to topic.  I dont think PM Abbott is responsible for the death.  Nor I think Salvos are implicated as an organization.  If anything, PM Rudd is the one who ultimately started the whole PNG thing. 

Only a low-life like a pretend green evangelist would sully the Name of the Salvation Army with a puerile slur like this.

Repeat this kind of slur in front of the wartime diggers or the many victims of disasters who have been supported by this great charitable organisation and I wouldn't be surprised if you got a good kicking Green.

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2014 at 2:08pm:

Only a low-life like a pretend green evangelist would sully the Name of the Salvation Army with a puerile slur like this. Repeat this kind of slur in front of the wartime diggers or the many victims of disasters who have been supported by this great charitable organisation and I wouldn't be surprised if you got a good kicking Green.

Unless the guys spent his childhood is a salvo's boy's home

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-10/salvation-army-reputation-27no-longer-a-priorty27/5249332