Housing unaffordable
And if you can afford a house the land is much smaller, that's if your lucky enough to get a house. Might just be a flat.
Cost of living much higher, Power costs are just about unaffordable
Food quality is lower.
higher levels of traffic
higher levels of pollution
Less personal space.

I could add a lot more to this list but I have to go,
Feel free to add you bit.....

Housing unaffordable—thank negative gearing for that!

Power costs—put some solar cells on your roof.

Food quality—I get fantastic, fresh and relatively cheap food from the Central Market and farmers markets, not supermarkets {yuck} Also grow veges myself and keep chooks.

Most of the idiot’s whinges are about population growth. Can get cheaper housing in country towns, why stick to capita cities? Cost of living more a cost of lifestyle. MacMansions etc.

you forgot to blame migrants for your stupidity too ... I'm sure they had something to do with it.

you forgot JOBS.. we n ow have over 50.000 extra JOBS to find... :D :D

dont worry the unions are looking into it.

Sudanese extreme violence

East European crime gangs

Vietnamese drug gangs.

You forgot the mafia, sprinty!

It never ceases to amaze me, the absolute irony of Australians when it comes to being anti-immigration.

The detrimental effect that European immigration had on the aborigines is far worse than anything that any of your whining complaints, most of which by the way have almost nothing to do with immigration in the first place.  Come back when you don't want to blame a minority for all of your problems.

Living in Sydney I believe immigration has had negatives and positives. I can't speak for the rest of the country.
Positives-
Definitely more wealth.
Better food. No doubt about it.
Many migrants are lovely people.

Negatives-
Sydney is definitely more dangerous. There's parts of Sydney I definitely wouldn't walk around at night.

Division. When I was a kid you felt part of a big family almost. Everybody had a lot in common. It's different now. Sydney is rich here, poor here, Lebanese here, Vietnamese here. I think that's what they wanted though.
          

Stratos wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 8:02am:

It never ceases to amaze me, the absolute irony of Australians when it comes to being anti-immigration. The detrimental effect that European immigration had on the aborigines is far worse than anything that any of your whining complaints, most of which by the way have almost nothing to do with immigration in the first place.  Come back when you don't want to blame a minority for all of your problems.

Can always expect some lefty to bring up race when it comes to immigration and its always about the blacks, and they always believe in some fantasy world the Abo's had before the white man. The white man saved the Abo's from extinction. Fact!
Life was hard before the White man Fact!
Kidnapping was common before the white man Fact!
Rape was common before the White man Fact!
Murder was common before the White man Fact!
Extinction of native wildlife before white man Fact!

St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:58am:

You forgot the mafia, sprinty!

English union thugs.

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 8:39am:

Stratos wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:02am: It never ceases to amaze me, the absolute irony of Australians when it comes to being anti-immigration. The detrimental effect that European immigration had on the aborigines is far worse than anything that any of your whining complaints, most of which by the way have almost nothing to do with immigration in the first place.  Come back when you don't want to blame a minority for all of your problems. Can always expect some lefty to bring up race when it comes to immigration and its always about the blacks, and they always believe in some fantasy world the Abo's had before the white man. The white man saved the Abo's from extinction. Fact! Life was hard before the White man Fact! Kidnapping was common before the white man Fact! Rape was common before the White man Fact! Murder was common before the White man Fact! Extinction of native wildlife before white man Fact!

yep, we took 'em out of caves, walking and chewing bark for medicine.
Gave them houses, cars and a dental plan.

St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:58am:

You forgot the mafia, sprinty!

they created jobs ... bring them on .

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 8:41am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:39am: Stratos wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:02am: It never ceases to amaze me, the absolute irony of Australians when it comes to being anti-immigration. The detrimental effect that European immigration had on the aborigines is far worse than anything that any of your whining complaints, most of which by the way have almost nothing to do with immigration in the first place.  Come back when you don't want to blame a minority for all of your problems. Can always expect some lefty to bring up race when it comes to immigration and its always about the blacks, and they always believe in some fantasy world the Abo's had before the white man. The white man saved the Abo's from extinction. Fact! Life was hard before the White man Fact! Kidnapping was common before the white man Fact! Rape was common before the White man Fact! Murder was common before the White man Fact! Extinction of native wildlife before white man Fact! yep, we took 'em out of caves, walking and chewing bark for medicine. Gave them houses, cars and a dental plan.

We also gave them small pox, measles, TB and groovy good stuff like that.

Not to mention some outright massacres.

Keep going Sprint, you will get a brain one day!

St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 9:22am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:41am: BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:39am: Stratos wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:02am: It never ceases to amaze me, the absolute irony of Australians when it comes to being anti-immigration. The detrimental effect that European immigration had on the aborigines is far worse than anything that any of your whining complaints, most of which by the way have almost nothing to do with immigration in the first place.  Come back when you don't want to blame a minority for all of your problems. Can always expect some lefty to bring up race when it comes to immigration and its always about the blacks, and they always believe in some fantasy world the Abo's had before the white man. The white man saved the Abo's from extinction. Fact! Life was hard before the White man Fact! Kidnapping was common before the white man Fact! Rape was common before the White man Fact! Murder was common before the White man Fact! Extinction of native wildlife before white man Fact! yep, we took 'em out of caves, walking and chewing bark for medicine. Gave them houses, cars and a dental plan. We also gave them small pox, measles, TB and groovy good stuff like that. Not to mention some outright massacres. Keep going Sprint, you will get a brain one day!

Giving aborigines diseases was never intentional. If that is so  then you are the blame for every time you've past the flu on in your life.

Sparky wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 9:26am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:22am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:41am: BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:39am: Stratos wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:02am: It never ceases to amaze me, the absolute irony of Australians when it comes to being anti-immigration. The detrimental effect that European immigration had on the aborigines is far worse than anything that any of your whining complaints, most of which by the way have almost nothing to do with immigration in the first place.  Come back when you don't want to blame a minority for all of your problems. Can always expect some lefty to bring up race when it comes to immigration and its always about the blacks, and they always believe in some fantasy world the Abo's had before the white man. The white man saved the Abo's from extinction. Fact! Life was hard before the White man Fact! Kidnapping was common before the white man Fact! Rape was common before the White man Fact! Murder was common before the White man Fact! Extinction of native wildlife before white man Fact! yep, we took 'em out of caves, walking and chewing bark for medicine. Gave them houses, cars and a dental plan. We also gave them small pox, measles, TB and groovy good stuff like that. Not to mention some outright massacres. Keep going Sprint, you will get a brain one day! Giving aborigines diseases was never intentional. If that is so  then you are the blame for every time you've past the flu on in your life.

how does that excuse anything? I'm sure the drunk didn't mean to run over the kid ... it was an accident

Not 100% sure on the unintentional either.

John Smith wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 9:28am:

Sparky wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:26am: St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:22am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:41am: BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:39am: Stratos wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:02am: It never ceases to amaze me, the absolute irony of Australians when it comes to being anti-immigration. The detrimental effect that European immigration had on the aborigines is far worse than anything that any of your whining complaints, most of which by the way have almost nothing to do with immigration in the first place.  Come back when you don't want to blame a minority for all of your problems. Can always expect some lefty to bring up race when it comes to immigration and its always about the blacks, and they always believe in some fantasy world the Abo's had before the white man. The white man saved the Abo's from extinction. Fact! Life was hard before the White man Fact! Kidnapping was common before the white man Fact! Rape was common before the White man Fact! Murder was common before the White man Fact! Extinction of native wildlife before white man Fact! yep, we took 'em out of caves, walking and chewing bark for medicine. Gave them houses, cars and a dental plan. We also gave them small pox, measles, TB and groovy good stuff like that. Not to mention some outright massacres. Keep going Sprint, you will get a brain one day! Giving aborigines diseases was never intentional. If that is so  then you are the blame for every time you've past the flu on in your life. how does that excuse anything? I'm sure the drunk didn't mean to run over the kid ... it was an accident

Well it excuses it because how can you be the blame for something you never meant to do.

St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 9:32am:

Not 100% sure on the unintentional either.

That diseased blanket stuff has found to be rubbish. Why would the white man handle things that could make him sick?

I support the immigration of danish, german and finnish engineers. This would make our lives better.
It would help kick start a "new technology" revolution in wind farming, solar panels and hydrogen technology

The sudanese, somalis and iranians may also help with some renewable energies.  Donkeys turning waterwheels and the burning of cattle dung

aquascoot wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 9:51am:

It would help kick start a "new technology" revolution in wind farming, solar panels and hydrogen technology

With Abbott gutting everything that's not to do with mining coal & highways???????

Yeah Right.

He'd import them, ridicule them as being "Elitist" then ship off to Manus to be beaten to death & tell them its their own bloody fault.

aquascoot wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 9:51am:

I support the immigration of danish, german and finnish engineers. This would make our lives better. It would help kick start a "new technology" revolution in wind farming, solar panels and hydrogen technology The sudanese, somalis and iranians may also help with some renewable energies.  Donkeys turning waterwheels and the burning of cattle dung

Yes, invite immigrants that vastly benefit Aussie.
Intelligent white attactive Europeans/Americans sound good to me.

Oh, course, they would be Christians too.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 10:45am:

Oh, course, they would be Christians too.

Christians involved in abuse are currently in are currently under an Australia wide investigation.  They have ruined far more people's lives than recent immigration.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 10:45am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:51am: I support the immigration of danish, german and finnish engineers. This would make our lives better. It would help kick start a "new technology" revolution in wind farming, solar panels and hydrogen technology The sudanese, somalis and iranians may also help with some renewable energies.  Donkeys turning waterwheels and the burning of cattle dung Yes, invite immigrants that vastly benefit Aussie. Intelligent white attactive Europeans/Americans sound good to me. Oh, course, they would be Christians too.

Indeed sprint, why import Tuk Tuks when you can get a Mercedes for the same price (actually a lot cheaper to the tax payer)

Sparky wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 9:32am:

Well it excuses it because how can you be the blame for something you never meant to do.

No? Well how about these.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenous_Australians

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 10:30am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:51am: It would help kick start a "new technology" revolution in wind farming, solar panels and hydrogen technology With Abbott gutting everything that's not to do with mining coal & highways??????? Yeah Right. He'd import them, ridicule them as being "Elitist" then ship off to Manus to be beaten to death & tell them its their own bloody fault.

Abbot is a big spending, big government, big NDIS, big PPL scheme kind of guy. European entrepreneurs wouldnt want to work under a regime that punishes capital gains,doesnt allow employee share options without ruthless CGT, has the highest business taxes, doesnt allow write offs for R and D , has no flexible workforce, has a public education system that spends no money on the cream and only concentrates on the kids with ADD etc , giving them extra teaching staff.
No, they'll go to east asia where they will be welcomed

Stratos wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 10:52am:

Sparky wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:32am: Well it excuses it because how can you be the blame for something you never meant to do. No? Well how about these. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenous_Australians

I wasn't talking about massacres. I was talking about how aborigines were  unintentionally  exposed  to European diseases. Some of the resident loonies on here think that the  Europeans are to blame anyway. Going by that silly point of view then we  all the blame for every time we passed on the flu.

Until we can effect some meaningful structural changes to our economy which will enable us to cope with a massive old age population, I'm afraid we are stuck with high immigration. Japan is currently a good test case for how a developed economy with chronically low birth rates can cope with virtually zero immigration. Whether their current prosperity will be sustained is still an open question, but one thing for certain is that our culture and economy is vastly different to Japans - such that Japan is far better equipped to deal with an ageing population than we are (eg retirees are less dependent on government, people retire at an older age and the nation's economy is far more efficient and automated allowing for a relatively smaller workforce).

So for the time being we are stuck with high immigration - which is the only mechanism we have to sustain our increasingly aged population. Of course long term, it actually perpetuates the problem, since immigrants age too, and invariably adopt our culture of low birth rates. 

The other factor to remember is that a very large portion of our immigration intake is not even set by the official intake - eg New Zealanders and spouse visas

Most people don't mind immigration. There probably is a concern with the quality of immigration. I personally believe people should have a command of the english language, a compatible attitude and an educational standard before getting a visa. That's one of the reasons people aren't to happy with too many boat people. It costs millions upon millions of dollars to get some immigrants up to scratch. Do we need anymore factory workers?? Having an attitude to integration is very helpful too. That's another concern with the boat people issue.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/3301.0

With a net reproduction rate of less than one there appears to be little other choice.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 8:39am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 7:58am: You forgot the mafia, sprinty! English union thugs.

And the soccer ones aren't any better....

:)

crocodile wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 1:03pm:

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/3301.0 With a net reproduction rate of less than one there appears to be little other choice.

Aussie has too many people as it is.

I don't want more people. i want better people.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:55am:

Sudanese extreme violence East European crime gangs Vietnamese drug gangs.

The Snowy Mountains Hydroelectric Scheme.

:)

Sparky wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 9:32am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:28am: Sparky wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:26am: St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:22am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:41am: BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:39am: Stratos wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:02am: It never ceases to amaze me, the absolute irony of Australians when it comes to being anti-immigration. The detrimental effect that European immigration had on the aborigines is far worse than anything that any of your whining complaints, most of which by the way have almost nothing to do with immigration in the first place.  Come back when you don't want to blame a minority for all of your problems. Can always expect some lefty to bring up race when it comes to immigration and its always about the blacks, and they always believe in some fantasy world the Abo's had before the white man. The white man saved the Abo's from extinction. Fact! Life was hard before the White man Fact! Kidnapping was common before the white man Fact! Rape was common before the White man Fact! Murder was common before the White man Fact! Extinction of native wildlife before white man Fact! yep, we took 'em out of caves, walking and chewing bark for medicine. Gave them houses, cars and a dental plan. We also gave them small pox, measles, TB and groovy good stuff like that. Not to mention some outright massacres. Keep going Sprint, you will get a brain one day! Giving aborigines diseases was never intentional. If that is so  then you are the blame for every time you've past the flu on in your life. how does that excuse anything? I'm sure the drunk didn't mean to run over the kid ... it was an accident Well it excuses it because how can you be the blame for something you never meant to do.

have you ever seen anyone get off on any charge because they didn't mean to? what makes you think this should be any different?

John Smith wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 1:57pm:

Sparky wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:32am: John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:28am: Sparky wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:26am: St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:22am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:41am: BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:39am: Stratos wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:02am: It never ceases to amaze me, the absolute irony of Australians when it comes to being anti-immigration. The detrimental effect that European immigration had on the aborigines is far worse than anything that any of your whining complaints, most of which by the way have almost nothing to do with immigration in the first place.  Come back when you don't want to blame a minority for all of your problems. Can always expect some lefty to bring up race when it comes to immigration and its always about the blacks, and they always believe in some fantasy world the Abo's had before the white man. The white man saved the Abo's from extinction. Fact! Life was hard before the White man Fact! Kidnapping was common before the white man Fact! Rape was common before the White man Fact! Murder was common before the White man Fact! Extinction of native wildlife before white man Fact! yep, we took 'em out of caves, walking and chewing bark for medicine. Gave them houses, cars and a dental plan. We also gave them small pox, measles, TB and groovy good stuff like that. Not to mention some outright massacres. Keep going Sprint, you will get a brain one day! Giving aborigines diseases was never intentional. If that is so  then you are the blame for every time you've past the flu on in your life. how does that excuse anything? I'm sure the drunk didn't mean to run over the kid ... it was an accident Well it excuses it because how can you be the blame for something you never meant to do. have you ever seen anyone get off on any charge because they didn't mean to? what makes you think this should be any different?

Wake up to yourself.  :o :o :o :o

Sparky wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 9:32am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:28am: Sparky wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:26am: St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 9:22am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:41am: BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:39am: Stratos wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:02am: It never ceases to amaze me, the absolute irony of Australians when it comes to being anti-immigration. The detrimental effect that European immigration had on the aborigines is far worse than anything that any of your whining complaints, most of which by the way have almost nothing to do with immigration in the first place.  Come back when you don't want to blame a minority for all of your problems. Can always expect some lefty to bring up race when it comes to immigration and its always about the blacks, and they always believe in some fantasy world the Abo's had before the white man. The white man saved the Abo's from extinction. Fact! Life was hard before the White man Fact! Kidnapping was common before the white man Fact! Rape was common before the White man Fact! Murder was common before the White man Fact! Extinction of native wildlife before white man Fact! yep, we took 'em out of caves, walking and chewing bark for medicine. Gave them houses, cars and a dental plan. We also gave them small pox, measles, TB and groovy good stuff like that. Not to mention some outright massacres. Keep going Sprint, you will get a brain one day! Giving aborigines diseases was never intentional. If that is so  then you are the blame for every time you've past the flu on in your life. how does that excuse anything? I'm sure the drunk didn't mean to run over the kid ... it was an accident Well it excuses it because how can you be the blame for something you never meant to do.

http://igroson.ru/uploads/posts/2010-12/1292096909_triple_facepalm.jpg

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 8:39am:

Stratos wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:02am: It never ceases to amaze me, the absolute irony of Australians when it comes to being anti-immigration. The detrimental effect that European immigration had on the aborigines is far worse than anything that any of your whining complaints, most of which by the way have almost nothing to do with immigration in the first place.  Come back when you don't want to blame a minority for all of your problems. Can always expect some lefty to bring up race when it comes to immigration and its always about the blacks, and they always believe in some fantasy world the Abo's had before the white man. The white man saved the Abo's from extinction. Fact! Life was hard before the White man Fact! Kidnapping was common before the white man Fact! Rape was common before the White man Fact! Murder was common before the White man Fact! Extinction of native wildlife before white man Fact!

Of course, since the arrival of the white man life is easy, there is no kidnapping, rape or murder and native wildlife is flourishing.

This is a nation of immigrants! The PM was an immigrant!

nice selfie there greg, i think of you as a "colonel clink' sort of guy. 
It is not illegal to try to escape from stalag 13 you know.

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 3:52pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:39am: Stratos wrote on Mar 3rd, 2014 at 8:02am: It never ceases to amaze me, the absolute irony of Australians when it comes to being anti-immigration. The detrimental effect that European immigration had on the aborigines is far worse than anything that any of your whining complaints, most of which by the way have almost nothing to do with immigration in the first place.  Come back when you don't want to blame a minority for all of your problems. Can always expect some lefty to bring up race when it comes to immigration and its always about the blacks, and they always believe in some fantasy world the Abo's had before the white man. The white man saved the Abo's from extinction. Fact! Life was hard before the White man Fact! Kidnapping was common before the white man Fact! Rape was common before the White man Fact! Murder was common before the White man Fact! Extinction of native wildlife before white man Fact! Of course, since the arrival of the white man life is easy, there is no kidnapping, rape or murder and native wildlife is flourishing. for goodness sake this is a nation of immigrants! The PM was an immigrant!

indeed pete, all nations are nations of immigrants. name one with an open border policy