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Message started by Spot of Borg on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:33am

Title: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:33am
Where has my thread gone? Its disappeared!

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:42am
Your thread was idiotic.

You're a grown man and that was your thread?

Grow up.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Kat on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:48am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:42am:
Your thread was idiotic.

You're a grown man and that was your thread?

Grow up.


Using that as a criterium, 50% of the threads started on any given day should probably be deleted.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by mantra on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:53am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:42am:
Your thread was idiotic.

You're a grown man and that was your thread?

Grow up.



If you personally think a member's thread is idiotic - isn't it possible to move it to a more appropriate sub-forum - rather than deleting it?

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:53am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:42am:
Your thread was idiotic.

You're a grown man and that was your thread?

Grow up.


Seriously?

The michelle obama thread isnt idiotic?

So you just deleted my thread?

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:53am
Hard to disagree Kat but Spot's thread was particularly idiotic and utterly pointless.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Kat on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:59am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:53am:
Hard to disagree Kat but Spot's thread was particularly idiotic and utterly pointless.


I didn't see it...

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:05am

Kat wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:59am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:53am:
Hard to disagree Kat but Spot's thread was particularly idiotic and utterly pointless.


I didn't see it...


I said margaret abbott was a man

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:18am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:05am:

Kat wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:59am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:53am:
Hard to disagree Kat but Spot's thread was particularly idiotic and utterly pointless.


I didn't see it...


I said margaret abbott was a man

SOB


Quite grown up behaviour don't you think?
Razor sharp wit.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:19am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:18am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:05am:

Kat wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:59am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:53am:
Hard to disagree Kat but Spot's thread was particularly idiotic and utterly pointless.


I didn't see it...


I said margaret abbott was a man

SOB


Quite grown up behaviour don't you think?
Razor sharp wit.


And what you did was adult?

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:20am
Like I said spot, grow up and act your age.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by 0ktema on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:21am

Kat wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:59am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:53am:
Hard to disagree Kat but Spot's thread was particularly idiotic and utterly pointless.


I didn't see it...


It's still held in Google cache for the time being ...

(h)ttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9NqYFlO4zFQJ:(w)ww.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl%3Fnum%3D1394741865+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&client=ubuntu


P.S. Only 13 more posts to go and I will be able to post a live link ...  ;)

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by cods on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:24am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:20am:
Like I said spot, grow up and act your age.




humm what age do you think that might be ????..

judging by the small things that please an even smaller mind.. ::) ::)

this is the first sob thread for while..

we have some small mercies on the boards after all.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:28am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:20am:
Like I said spot, grow up and act your age.


That isnt up to you is it. Why dont you grow up and act your age?

Obviously if you were being impartial the michelle obama thread would have been deleted as well.

Pretending not to "get" my point (and in the appropriate area as well) isnt working for you with that michelle obama thread still there.

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:28am

cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:24am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:20am:
Like I said spot, grow up and act your age.




humm what age do you think that might be ????..

judging by the small things that please an even smaller mind.. ::) ::)

this is the first sob thread for while..

we have some small mercies on the boards after all.


Grab any chance . . . . . .  wonders never cease though @ normal size font

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Deathridesahorse on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:33am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:42am:
Your thread was idiotic.

You're a grown man and that was your thread?

Grow up.

You called boat people human garbage and got promoted by this very forum for it  ;D

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Deathridesahorse on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:36am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:28am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:20am:
Like I said spot, grow up and act your age.


That isnt up to you is it. Why dont you grow up and act your age?

Obviously if you were being impartial the michelle obama thread would have been deleted as well.

Pretending not to "get" my point (and in the appropriate area as well) isnt working for you with that michelle obama thread still there.

SOB

You tell the 'em!  ;)

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by cods on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:43am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:28am:

cods wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:24am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:20am:
Like I said spot, grow up and act your age.




humm what age do you think that might be ????..

judging by the small things that please an even smaller mind.. ::) ::)

this is the first sob thread for while..

we have some small mercies on the boards after all.


Grab any chance . . . . . .  wonders never cease though @ normal size font

SOB




I dont think so..

isnt NORMAL.. what you use on every post.. ::) ::).. you didnt say troll... tsk tsk,.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by cods on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:45am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:28am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:20am:
Like I said spot, grow up and act your age.


That isnt up to you is it. Why dont you grow up and act your age?

Obviously if you were being impartial the michelle obama thread would have been deleted as well.

Pretending not to "get" my point (and in the appropriate area as well) isnt working for you with that michelle obama thread still there.

SOB




ooops... there goes another tit for tat post. ;D ;D

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by mantra on Mar 14th, 2014 at 8:51am
Rather than upset some members because one of the moderators doesn't like a thread title - couldn't you move the thread into one of the member run boards?

A few of them could do with some new threads. What about the Tavern, Extremism or Relationships?

This is a suggestion only and I'm not telling Andrei what to do. If he thinks the topic is immature - he can delete it, but it would keep members happier if it was moved.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:13am
I dont remember any other moderators deleting threads because they disagree with them or think they are "idiotic". I was wrong about andrei. He is biased and censors anything he doesnt agree with. This is evidenced by the fact the michelle obama thread is still there.

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by mantra on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:42am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:13am:
I dont remember any other moderators deleting threads because they disagree with them or think they are "idiotic".


Threads have never been deleted unless they're obscene, but Andrei is just trying to raise the standards here. I'm sure he means well.



Title: Re: Censorship
Post by mantra on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:56am

mantra wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:42am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:13am:
I dont remember any other moderators deleting threads because they disagree with them or think they are "idiotic".


Threads have never been deleted unless they're obscene, but Andrei is just trying to raise the standards here. I'm sure he means well.


I could be wrong. Maybe threads considered "idiotic" might have been deleted, but I haven't noticed any complaints about it before.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 14th, 2014 at 10:13am
It was bias. I thought he was actually making an effort to not be biased in his modding but i was wrong.

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by mantra on Mar 14th, 2014 at 10:25am
It couldn't have been worse than the Fat Magda Szubanski...thread. That's nasty. Was the thread in Politicians Suck? If it was - maybe it would be easier in the future to start a thread in Chat or General if you think it might be censored.

Most moderators are accused of bias. They put a lot of their own time into the job and occasionally have to make unpopular snap decisions. It would be hard to please everyone.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 14th, 2014 at 10:39am

mantra wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 10:25am:
It couldn't have been worse than the Fat Magda Szubanski...thread. That's nasty. Was the thread in Politicians Suck? If it was - maybe it would be easier in the future to start a thread in Chat or General if you think it might be censored.

Most moderators are accused of bias. They put a lot of their own time into the job and occasionally have to make unpopular snap decisions. It would be hard to please everyone.


Nope i put it in chat (where the one about michelle obama is).

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by mantra on Mar 14th, 2014 at 11:32am
Michelle Obama is from the left and Marg Abbott is from the right. Maybe that's the reason the thread was considered idiotic and deleted? 

At the risk of upsetting the righties - I've always thought 2 of Abbott's daughters look very masculine - even horse faced. They might have inherited that off their father though.  :)

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by muso on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:18pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:13am:
I dont remember any other moderators deleting threads because they disagree with them or think they are "idiotic". I was wrong about andrei. He is biased and censors anything he doesnt agree with. This is evidenced by the fact the michelle obama thread is still there.

SOB


He is biased against idiocy. That is quite an appropriate bias. Faking polls that accept anonymous posting is another example of idiocy.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:21pm

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:18pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:13am:
I dont remember any other moderators deleting threads because they disagree with them or think they are "idiotic". I was wrong about andrei. He is biased and censors anything he doesnt agree with. This is evidenced by the fact the michelle obama thread is still there.

SOB


He is biased against idiocy. That is quite an appropriate bias. Faking polls that accept anonymous posting is another example of idiocy.


How do you fake a poll?

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Honky on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:52pm
Heaps of threads should be deleted - I don't see what good it is moving them to a sub forum where they just lie forgotten and untouched anyway.   

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by mantra on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:59pm

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:18pm:
He is biased against idiocy. That is quite an appropriate bias.



I think the point Spot was trying to make is that if there are 2 similar topics, the only difference being one named a LW President's wife and the other a RW Primeminister's wife - how do you decide that one is idiotic and the other isn't? Both were intended to be derogatory and they were both in Chat.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2014 at 4:01pm

mantra wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:59pm:

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:18pm:
He is biased against idiocy. That is quite an appropriate bias.



I think the point Spot was trying to make is that if there are 2 similar topics, the only difference being one named a LW President's wife and the other a RW Primeminister's wife - how do you decide that one is idiotic and the other isn't? Both were intended to be derogatory and they were both in Chat.


Oh, I see.  The one attacking the right is deleted and that attacking the left is intact.

Goodo.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by cods on Mar 14th, 2014 at 4:29pm

mantra wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 11:32am:
Michelle Obama is from the left and Marg Abbott is from the right. Maybe that's the reason the thread was considered idiotic and deleted? 

At the risk of upsetting the righties - I've always thought 2 of Abbott's daughters look very masculine - even horse faced. They might have inherited that off their father though.  :)




of course you do!!!!

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by muso on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:23pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:21pm:

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:18pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:13am:
I dont remember any other moderators deleting threads because they disagree with them or think they are "idiotic". I was wrong about andrei. He is biased and censors anything he doesnt agree with. This is evidenced by the fact the michelle obama thread is still there.

SOB


He is biased against idiocy. That is quite an appropriate bias. Faking polls that accept anonymous posting is another example of idiocy.


How do you fake a poll?

SOB


You would know. You continue to vote as a guest while logged out.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by John Smith on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:26pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:18am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:05am:

Kat wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:59am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:53am:
Hard to disagree Kat but Spot's thread was particularly idiotic and utterly pointless.


I didn't see it...


I said margaret abbott was a man

SOB


Quite grown up behaviour don't you think?
Razor sharp wit.


I notice the thread on Michelle Obama being a man is still there ...

letting your politics affect your judgement I thinks 

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by John Smith on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:29pm

... wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:52pm:
Heaps of threads should be deleted - I don't see what good it is moving them to a sub forum where they just lie forgotten and untouched anyway.   


maybe so ...even more important is that the mods show consistency ... the only thing they are consistant on is their ability to screw it up!

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Honky on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:33pm
Pfft.  Stop acting like it's some big conspiracy.

A rubbish thread got deleted, and another rubbish thread (that was based on an actual article - there's your distinction) will soon be buried and forgotten. 

Either way, the world is still turning.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:52pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 4:01pm:

mantra wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:59pm:

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:18pm:
He is biased against idiocy. That is quite an appropriate bias.



I think the point Spot was trying to make is that if there are 2 similar topics, the only difference being one named a LW President's wife and the other a RW Primeminister's wife - how do you decide that one is idiotic and the other isn't? Both were intended to be derogatory and they were both in Chat.


Oh, I see.  The one attacking the right is deleted and that attacking the left is intact.

Goodo.


Barack Obama is as left wing as I am.

Spot needs to grow up. A grown man acting like he does is embarrassing.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by John Smith on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:55pm

... wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:33pm:
Pfft.  Stop acting like it's some big conspiracy.

A rubbish thread got deleted, and another rubbish thread (that was based on an actual article - there's your distinction) will soon be buried and forgotten. 

Either way, the world is still turning.


does that mean they'll delete ALL rubbish threads? You seem to be a fan of it, what say you?

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:01pm
Come on moderators - the thread about Obama's wife being a man is just as stupid
& should be deleted too.

In all fairness.   :)

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:01pm

mantra wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:59pm:

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:18pm:
He is biased against idiocy. That is quite an appropriate bias.



I think the point Spot was trying to make is that if there are 2 similar topics, the only difference being one named a LW President's wife and the other a RW Primeminister's wife - how do you decide that one is idiotic and the other isn't? Both were intended to be derogatory and they were both in Chat.


LW President?

Supports -
1. Active intervention militarily by drones (more attacks in Afghanistan and Pakistan have been ordered by him than Bush)
2. Right to bear arms
3. Death penalty for several offenses
4. Actively is pursuing Edward Snowden
5. Believes staunchly in the free market and capitalist principles

I could go on but seriously mantra, you tell me if Obama is LW?!

I deleted spots thread for no other reason that it was idiotic and something a 12 year old would put up.
Let alone a grown man in his 50s.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Honky on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:03pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

... wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:33pm:
Pfft.  Stop acting like it's some big conspiracy.

A rubbish thread got deleted, and another rubbish thread (that was based on an actual article - there's your distinction) will soon be buried and forgotten. 

Either way, the world is still turning.


does that mean they'll delete ALL rubbish threads? You seem to be a fan of it, what say you?


As I said - a lot of threads would be better deleted than shifted to a sub-forum.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by John Smith on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:03pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:01pm:

mantra wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:59pm:

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:18pm:
He is biased against idiocy. That is quite an appropriate bias.



I think the point Spot was trying to make is that if there are 2 similar topics, the only difference being one named a LW President's wife and the other a RW Primeminister's wife - how do you decide that one is idiotic and the other isn't? Both were intended to be derogatory and they were both in Chat.


LW President?

Supports -
1. Active intervention militarily by drones (more attacks in Afghanistan and Pakistan have been ordered by him than Bush)
2. Right to bear arms
3. Death penalty for several offenses
4. Actively is pursuing Edward Snowden
5. Believes staunchly in the free market and capitalist principles

I could go on but seriously mantra, you tell me if Obama is LW?!

I deleted spots thread for no other reason that it was idiotic and something a 12 year old would put up.
Let alone a grown man in his 50s.


nice attempt at deflection whilst avoiding the real issue ... by US standards, Obama is considered by many to be left wing. No one said he was as left wing as Hawke

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by John Smith on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:04pm

... wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

... wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:33pm:
Pfft.  Stop acting like it's some big conspiracy.

A rubbish thread got deleted, and another rubbish thread (that was based on an actual article - there's your distinction) will soon be buried and forgotten. 

Either way, the world is still turning.


does that mean they'll delete ALL rubbish threads? You seem to be a fan of it, what say you?


As I said - a lot of threads would be better deleted than shifted to a sub-forum.


based on what? someone else's idea of whats 'stupid'?

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Honky on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:06pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:04pm:

... wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

... wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:33pm:
Pfft.  Stop acting like it's some big conspiracy.

A rubbish thread got deleted, and another rubbish thread (that was based on an actual article - there's your distinction) will soon be buried and forgotten. 

Either way, the world is still turning.


does that mean they'll delete ALL rubbish threads? You seem to be a fan of it, what say you?


As I said - a lot of threads would be better deleted than shifted to a sub-forum.


based on what? someone else's idea of whats 'stupid'?


Sure.  Presumably the mods can be trusted to have some idea of quality control.

Are you saying the threads in question were not stupid?

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:09pm
Obama is as right wing as Tony Abbott.
You look at their policy views and announcements.

Obama is called Left wing by idiots like Limbaugh and O'Reilly or nutcases on the extremes of the Republican Party.
No sane person would class him as LW.

I also think he's done a decent job I'm certainly not anti Obama.

Spots thread - and it really was pathetic - had nothing to do with bias.
I like Obama and I don't have political bias in AUS as I neither live nor vote there.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:01pm:
Come on moderators - the thread about Obama's wife being a man is just as stupid
& should be deleted too.

In all fairness.   :)



Bump to Andrei.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by John Smith on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:14pm

... wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:04pm:

... wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

... wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:33pm:
Pfft.  Stop acting like it's some big conspiracy.

A rubbish thread got deleted, and another rubbish thread (that was based on an actual article - there's your distinction) will soon be buried and forgotten. 

Either way, the world is still turning.


does that mean they'll delete ALL rubbish threads? You seem to be a fan of it, what say you?


As I said - a lot of threads would be better deleted than shifted to a sub-forum.


based on what? someone else's idea of whats 'stupid'?


Sure.  Presumably the mods can be trusted to have some idea of quality control.

Are you saying the threads in question were not stupid?


Don't know as I didn't see it.

I do think the thread on Michelle Obama being a man is stupid, and yet its still there ... same with the thread suggesting Morrison is a real man ... the thread on Warne, the thread on Chemtrails

but I also understand that while I feel they are stupid, others might not ... that is why no one should delete a thread just because he feels it to be 'stupid'.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Honky on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:18pm
There's ~30,000 threads on this site.  It's not as if they're all some priceless repository of knowledge that needs to be preserved.

Shall we call UNESCO and nominate this site for a heritage listing?

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:28pm
Sorry Andrei:


Quote:
I deleted spots thread for no other reason that it was idiotic and something a 12 year old would put up.


That is not your job.  You do not get to decide what is 'idiotic,' and then delete using the Mod buttons.

That is censorship in the most pure form.  The Mod Job is to see that the Rules are observed, not delete what they personally reckon is 'idiotic.'

:-[

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by John Smith on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:05pm

... wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:18pm:
There's ~30,000 threads on this site.  It's not as if they're all some priceless repository of knowledge that needs to be preserved.

Shall we call UNESCO and nominate this site for a heritage listing?


Then don't start a public forum ... it comes with the territory. Either you let the members of the forum speak their mind, or you don't ... you do not get to decide what is stupid.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Honky on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:08pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

... wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:18pm:
There's ~30,000 threads on this site.  It's not as if they're all some priceless repository of knowledge that needs to be preserved.

Shall we call UNESCO and nominate this site for a heritage listing?


Then don't start a public forum ... it comes with the territory. Either you let the members of the forum speak their mind, or you don't ... you do not get to decide what is stupid.


Says who?

Any rules of the forum are at the sole discretion of the owner. 

Stop acting like you're entitled to something merely for existing.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by John Smith on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:14pm

... wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

... wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 6:18pm:
There's ~30,000 threads on this site.  It's not as if they're all some priceless repository of knowledge that needs to be preserved.

Shall we call UNESCO and nominate this site for a heritage listing?


Then don't start a public forum ... it comes with the territory. Either you let the members of the forum speak their mind, or you don't ... you do not get to decide what is stupid.


Says who?

Any rules of the forum are at the sole discretion of the owner. 

Stop acting like you're entitled to something merely for existing.


Show me the rule?

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:16pm
So who changed my sig? Was it you muso?

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:18pm
Spot are you trying to wind up every moderator?
Interesting strategy to take.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:26pm
No. Someone changed my sig. Is that allowed? Are you mods allowed to go into ppls personal settings and change their sigs?

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:39pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:18pm:
Spot are you trying to wind up every moderator?
Interesting strategy to take.


Andrei.....the signature has been changed.  Fact. 

:-[

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by muso on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:41pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:16pm:
So who changed my sig? Was it you muso?

SOB


Yes

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by mantra on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:41pm
x

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:44pm

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:41pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:16pm:
So who changed my sig? Was it you muso?

SOB


Yes


I thought you relinquished access to the buttons?

:-[

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Herbert on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:45pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:26pm:
No. Someone changed my sig. Is that allowed? Are you mods allowed to go into ppls personal settings and change their sigs?

SOB


I got a message today in my email saying someone was trying to change my password to Ozpolitic. I got this message twice ... and then had trouble login in.

There's been some fiddling.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by muso on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:47pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:44pm:

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:41pm:
[quote author=Spot_of_Borg link=1394742828/53#53 date=1394788597]So who changed my sig? Was it you muso?

SOB


Yes


I thought you relinquished access to the buttons?

:-[/quote]

Maybe I should ban myself for messing with Spot. I resign.  ;)

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Herbert on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:47pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:26pm:
No. Someone changed my sig. Is that allowed? Are you mods allowed to go into ppls personal settings and change their sigs?

SOB


I got a message today in my email saying someone was trying to change my password to Ozpolitic. I got this message twice ... and then had trouble login in.

There's been some fiddling.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by muso on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:52pm
Ok, I'll come clean. Spot is actually my sock. It was my attempt to create a persona who was really so thick that it was surreal.

Did I do well?

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by John Smith on Mar 14th, 2014 at 8:45pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:26pm:
No. Someone changed my sig. Is that allowed? Are you mods allowed to go into ppls personal settings and change their sigs?

SOB


I got a message today in my email saying someone was trying to change my password to Ozpolitic. I got this message twice ... and then had trouble login in.

There's been some fiddling.


I got that 3 times yesterday although I didn't have any problem login in

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 14th, 2014 at 8:57pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:39pm:
[quote author=Andrei.Hicks link=1394742828/54#54 date=1394788690]Spot are you trying to wind up every moderator?
Interesting strategy to take.


Andrei.....the signature has been changed.  Fact. 

:-[/quote]

I care lots. Honest.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 14th, 2014 at 8:58pm

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 7:52pm:
Ok, I'll come clean. Spot is actually my sock. It was my attempt to create a persona who was really so thick that it was surreal.

Did I do well?


Exceptional

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:12pm
Andrei.....I'm not certain that arrogance will suffice.  I'm one of your supporters, but this extra glitch is testing not only my support.

:-[

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by John Smith on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:15pm
[quote author=Aussie link=1394742828/67#67 date=1394795557]Andrei.....I'm not certain that arrogance will suffice.  I'm one of your supporters, but this extra glitch is testing not only my support.

:-[/quote]

I agree ..I've always defended Andrei's neutrality in his decisions as Mod, but not this time. Poor form Andrei

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:49pm
Ok in the interests of information, I'll explain a tad more.

The thread about Barack Obama's wife was based upon a published web article - with the link given.
Now people can find it absurd and the usual conspiracy nonsense - such as whether he was born in the United States or Kenya etc - again another nonsense subject but is prevalent in material on the net.

Spot, put up a picture of Tony Abbott's wife and wrote - this is a man.

No link, no story - basically the behaviour of a 12 year old and not something you'd expect from a grown man.
Now the first is also stupid but is based on a discussion of a story on the internet.
The other is basically spamming.

That's the basis of the removal of one and not the other.

Bias?
Absolutely not. You put up a picture of Bill Shorten's wife and say its a man or Christine Milne's husband and say its a woman and add nothing more and I'll take those down too.

Spamming is not acceptable by anyone.

Hence why the trash bin is packed with Deathridesahorse threads.

As regards Spot's signature, I neither know anything about that nor care.

Certainly no bias from me here. I'll be honest I am so far removed from Australian politics now, I genuinely don't have a domestic bias.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by muso on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:59pm
I honestly think we should move on from this. Removing spam is not censorship.

Replying to a troll is one thing, but when it comes to supporting a troll, that brings it to a new dimension.

I don't think Andrei is being biased. 

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 15th, 2014 at 5:31am
Of course muso supports the censorship because the target is me. Thats bias right there.

Andrei your story has changed. You said your reason for removing it. Obviously you didnt like the joke. You didnt allow discussion. You know it wasnt spam. It might have been poor taste but so is the michelle obama thread and that isnt the first michelle obama thread either. Seriously mods fiddling with ppls personal settings is even worse than censorship. Its wrong. Its just wrong. Freediver should do something about muso because he is dishonest and shouldnt have any access to the buttons. Andrei just has no ethics.

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 15th, 2014 at 5:37am

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:21pm:

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:18pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:13am:
I dont remember any other moderators deleting threads because they disagree with them or think they are "idiotic". I was wrong about andrei. He is biased and censors anything he doesnt agree with. This is evidenced by the fact the michelle obama thread is still there.

SOB


He is biased against idiocy. That is quite an appropriate bias. Faking polls that accept anonymous posting is another example of idiocy.


How do you fake a poll?

SOB


You would know. You continue to vote as a guest while logged out.


As did everyone else. Thats how it was set up. Nothing "fake" about it.

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 15th, 2014 at 5:41am

... wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:33pm:
Pfft.  Stop acting like it's some big conspiracy.

A rubbish thread got deleted, and another rubbish thread (that was based on an actual article - there's your distinction) will soon be buried and forgotten. 

Either way, the world is still turning.


So you think censorship and someone going crazy with power is okay?

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 15th, 2014 at 5:44am

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:59pm:
I honestly think we should move on from this. Removing spam is not censorship.

Replying to a troll is one thing, but when it comes to supporting a troll, that brings it to a new dimension.

I don't think Andrei is being biased. 


And yet there you go supporting one in the very same post.

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 15th, 2014 at 6:44am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 5:37am:

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:21pm:

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:18pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:13am:
I dont remember any other moderators deleting threads because they disagree with them or think they are "idiotic". I was wrong about andrei. He is biased and censors anything he doesnt agree with. This is evidenced by the fact the michelle obama thread is still there.

SOB


He is biased against idiocy. That is quite an appropriate bias. Faking polls that accept anonymous posting is another example of idiocy.


How do you fake a poll?

SOB


You would know. You continue to vote as a guest while logged out.


As did everyone else. Thats how it was set up. Nothing "fake" about it.

SOB


or voting for yourself when setting up a poll of who is john smith?

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 15th, 2014 at 6:46am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 5:31am:
Of course muso supports the censorship because the target is me. Thats bias right there.

Andrei your story has changed. You said your reason for removing it. Obviously you didnt like the joke. You didnt allow discussion. You know it wasnt spam. It might have been poor taste but so is the michelle obama thread and that isnt the first michelle obama thread either. Seriously mods fiddling with ppls personal settings is even worse than censorship. Its wrong. Its just wrong. Freediver should do something about muso because he is dishonest and shouldnt have any access to the buttons. Andrei just has no ethics.

SOB



It wasn't a joke.

Posting a photo and saying this is a man.

That's not a joke. It's the post of a child.

Grow up.

You're supposed to be a grown man. It was idiotic.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 15th, 2014 at 6:58am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 6:44am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 5:37am:

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:21pm:

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:18pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:13am:
I dont remember any other moderators deleting threads because they disagree with them or think they are "idiotic". I was wrong about andrei. He is biased and censors anything he doesnt agree with. This is evidenced by the fact the michelle obama thread is still there.

SOB


He is biased against idiocy. That is quite an appropriate bias. Faking polls that accept anonymous posting is another example of idiocy.


How do you fake a poll?

SOB


You would know. You continue to vote as a guest while logged out.


As did everyone else. Thats how it was set up. Nothing "fake" about it.

SOB


or voting for yourself when setting up a poll of who is john smith?


Showing off that you can see the votes? We allknow who you voted for in that poll too.

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 15th, 2014 at 7:01am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 6:46am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 5:31am:
Of course muso supports the censorship because the target is me. Thats bias right there.

Andrei your story has changed. You said your reason for removing it. Obviously you didnt like the joke. You didnt allow discussion. You know it wasnt spam. It might have been poor taste but so is the michelle obama thread and that isnt the first michelle obama thread either. Seriously mods fiddling with ppls personal settings is even worse than censorship. Its wrong. Its just wrong. Freediver should do something about muso because he is dishonest and shouldnt have any access to the buttons. Andrei just has no ethics.

SOB



It wasn't a joke.

Posting a photo and saying this is a man.

That's not a joke. It's the post of a child.

Grow up.

You're supposed to be a grown man. It was idiotic.


Yes it was a joke. It was a joke that made a point. Obviously went over your head though. In fact you got so suckered in that you threw ethics out the window and deleted my post. the point - since you missed it - was that the michelle obama thread is silly. How many threads have been up about gillard that were way worse than that? How many threads about her boyfriend the "hairdresser"? How many about her being a lesbian? Yet you delete my post about margaret abbot. You shouldn't be a moderator and neither should muso. Power goes to your fascist heads.

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 15th, 2014 at 7:07am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 6:58am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 6:44am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 5:37am:

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:21pm:

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:18pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:13am:
I dont remember any other moderators deleting threads because they disagree with them or think they are "idiotic". I was wrong about andrei. He is biased and censors anything he doesnt agree with. This is evidenced by the fact the michelle obama thread is still there.

SOB


He is biased against idiocy. That is quite an appropriate bias. Faking polls that accept anonymous posting is another example of idiocy.


How do you fake a poll?

SOB


You would know. You continue to vote as a guest while logged out.


As did everyone else. Thats how it was set up. Nothing "fake" about it.

SOB


or voting for yourself when setting up a poll of who is john smith?


Showing off that you can see the votes? We allknow who you voted for in that poll too.

SOB


No.
Pointing out you have behaved like an absolute fool on many occasions.

Voting for yourself, then voting again as a guest.

Idiotic

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 15th, 2014 at 7:09am
Muso has shown himself to be an excellent moderator over years on here.

You on the other hand have been labelled a troll by many and behaved like a fool on many other occasions.

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Spot of Borg on Mar 15th, 2014 at 7:10am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 7:07am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 6:58am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 6:44am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 5:37am:

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:21pm:

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 1:18pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:13am:
I dont remember any other moderators deleting threads because they disagree with them or think they are "idiotic". I was wrong about andrei. He is biased and censors anything he doesnt agree with. This is evidenced by the fact the michelle obama thread is still there.

SOB


He is biased against idiocy. That is quite an appropriate bias. Faking polls that accept anonymous posting is another example of idiocy.


How do you fake a poll?

SOB


You would know. You continue to vote as a guest while logged out.


As did everyone else. Thats how it was set up. Nothing "fake" about it.

SOB


or voting for yourself when setting up a poll of who is john smith?


Showing off that you can see the votes? We allknow who you voted for in that poll too.

SOB


No.
Pointing out you have behaved like an absolute fool on many occasions.

Voting for yourself, then voting again as a guest.

Idiotic


Oh really. what has any of this got to do with what YOU did in deleting my thread?

SOB

Title: Re: Censorship
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 15th, 2014 at 7:10am

muso wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:59pm:
I honestly think we should move on from this. Removing spam is not censorship.

Replying to a troll is one thing, but when it comes to supporting a troll, that brings it to a new dimension.

I don't think Andrei is being biased. 



I agree.
It will just degenerate into a 200 page thread of Spot making wild accusations and then say he is being picked on (see the F1-11 thread).

That serves no purpose. I agree with Muso. We're done here.

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