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Title: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by The Abzi Party on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 2:55pm

How proud you must be!

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 3:46pm

See the full exchange here.....These kids are awesome and saw straight through Mr Abbott!!!

http://www.mamamia.com.au/australian-politics/tony-abbott-interview-2014-newtown-high-school/

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Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Honky on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Kat on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:33pm

Quote:

I give you the minister for woman!

I don't want the not-so-nice person, wouldn't take him as a gift.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Aussie on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:40pm

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

Believing these kids were just gonna be nice, easy gushy admirers, he walked right into what was quickly a storm, unwittingly biting off far more than he could chew. How embarrassing that kids can nail him so directly!

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by alevine on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:46pm

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

Well in 3 years they'll be 18 and be eligible to vote. And it seems they have more brains than the majority of our journalists at news ltd.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Honky on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 5:27pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:46pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

Well in 3 years they'll be 18 and be eligible to vote. And it seems they have more brains than the majority of our journalists at news ltd.

Not really. They're just trolling him, as you'd expect year 9s to.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Frances on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 5:30pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 2:55pm:

I give you the minister for woman!

No thanks.....

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by alevine on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:35pm

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:46pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

Well in 3 years they'll be 18 and be eligible to vote. And it seems they have more brains than the majority of our journalists at news ltd.

Not really. They're just trolling him, as you'd expect year 9s to.

how were they trolling him? HE asked for questions, they asked questions, he couldn't answer. you need to learn the definition of trolling.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Honky on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:50pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:35pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:46pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

Well in 3 years they'll be 18 and be eligible to vote. And it seems they have more brains than the majority of our journalists at news ltd.

Not really. They're just trolling him, as you'd expect year 9s to.

how were they trolling him? HE asked for questions, they asked questions, he couldn't answer. you need to learn the definition of trolling.

yeh coz I'm sure gay marriage and carbon tax are the most presisng issues at the forefront of year 9s minds.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

More likely whats happened is 1 or 2 kids who heard something, somewhere, colluded with the others to think of some questions that would make him uncomfortable, for the sake of getting laughs. Mission accomplished.

And when they come of age, they'll vote for whoever they're conditioned to, just like the rest of you rubes.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by 5.56_ NATO on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:56pm

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:35pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:46pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

Well in 3 years they'll be 18 and be eligible to vote. And it seems they have more brains than the majority of our journalists at news ltd.

Not really. They're just trolling him, as you'd expect year 9s to.

how were they trolling him? HE asked for questions, they asked questions, he couldn't answer. you need to learn the definition of trolling.

You are right on the money with this, however as the lefties currently have no petrol in the tank they convince themselves they are on a winner with any little half arsed thing they can trawl up...no ones listening but we all laughin

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by alevine on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:02pm

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:35pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:46pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

Well in 3 years they'll be 18 and be eligible to vote. And it seems they have more brains than the majority of our journalists at news ltd.

Not really. They're just trolling him, as you'd expect year 9s to.

how were they trolling him? HE asked for questions, they asked questions, he couldn't answer. you need to learn the definition of trolling.

I think you'll find school has changed a lot since you left year 7 all those years ago Honky ;). It's even changed since the time I was in school. It wouldn't surprise me that there are many kids in year 9-10-11-12 that will come out as homosexual, as it's year 9 that's the average year in which kids begin to explore their sexuality. And unlike your times, or even my times, these days it's not a "disgrace" to come out of the closet and many of these kids will in fact have friends who are. So, the issue of homosexual rights is important to them because they more or less know someone who the idiotic religious dogma of Abbott's is discriminating against.

As for carbon tax, guess what even I learnt in year 9 science all those many many many years ago? Sustainability and the environment. Guess what these kids would be in the process of learning?

Nope, kids these days are engaging, which is great, and they are engaging to realise that Tony is an imbecile.

As for conditioning, you really want to go there? Ey, News Ltd child?

Anyhoo, what would you expect years 9s to ask the Prime Minister of this country? What his favourite football team is? Those kids end up raking leaves for the rest of their lives.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by alevine on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:03pm

5.56_ NATO wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:56pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:35pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:46pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

Well in 3 years they'll be 18 and be eligible to vote. And it seems they have more brains than the majority of our journalists at news ltd.

Not really. They're just trolling him, as you'd expect year 9s to.

how were they trolling him? HE asked for questions, they asked questions, he couldn't answer. you need to learn the definition of trolling.

It truly is a shame that so many of you are so naive as to not listen to what your government is doing. It's how dictatorships come to be, and it seems these year 9 kids would be smarter than you.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by 5.56_ NATO on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:06pm

That is the trouble with you pompous deluded ratbags, wont accept the reality ,just keep rabbiting on...no ones listening baby ;D

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Honky on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:07pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:02pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:35pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:46pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

Well in 3 years they'll be 18 and be eligible to vote. And it seems they have more brains than the majority of our journalists at news ltd.

Not really. They're just trolling him, as you'd expect year 9s to.

how were they trolling him? HE asked for questions, they asked questions, he couldn't answer. you need to learn the definition of trolling.

I would love to go there.

Let's start with what leads you to believe I read any "news", whether from news ltd or.....whatever the "other side" is?

I don't hate one side, I hate the game itself.

And this is precisely what I would expect year 9's to ask, which is why my opening comment was "why would he bother taking questions form year 9s in the first place".

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by alevine on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:09pm

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:07pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:02pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:35pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:46pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

Well in 3 years they'll be 18 and be eligible to vote. And it seems they have more brains than the majority of our journalists at news ltd.

Not really. They're just trolling him, as you'd expect year 9s to.

how were they trolling him? HE asked for questions, they asked questions, he couldn't answer. you need to learn the definition of trolling.

I would love to go there.

Let's start with what leads you to believe I read any "news", whether from news ltd or.....whatever the "other side" is?

I don't hate one side, I hate the game itself.

well I would hope you read some news. How do you stay engaged with the world, Honks?

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Honky on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:12pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:09pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:07pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:02pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:35pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:46pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

Well in 3 years they'll be 18 and be eligible to vote. And it seems they have more brains than the majority of our journalists at news ltd.

Not really. They're just trolling him, as you'd expect year 9s to.

how were they trolling him? HE asked for questions, they asked questions, he couldn't answer. you need to learn the definition of trolling.

I would love to go there.

Let's start with what leads you to believe I read any "news", whether from news ltd or.....whatever the "other side" is?

I don't hate one side, I hate the game itself.

well I would hope you read some news. How do you stay engaged with the world, Honks?

Are you for real man?

You stay engaged with the world by engaging with the world, not by reading some scripted, carefully controlled bullshit from a media agency.

Maybe you'd be more in touch and less easily fooled if you actually engaged with the real world?

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by alevine on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:14pm

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:12pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:09pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:07pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:02pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:35pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:46pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

Well in 3 years they'll be 18 and be eligible to vote. And it seems they have more brains than the majority of our journalists at news ltd.

Not really. They're just trolling him, as you'd expect year 9s to.

how were they trolling him? HE asked for questions, they asked questions, he couldn't answer. you need to learn the definition of trolling.

I would love to go there.

Let's start with what leads you to believe I read any "news", whether from news ltd or.....whatever the "other side" is?

I don't hate one side, I hate the game itself.

well I would hope you read some news. How do you stay engaged with the world, Honks?

So how do you engage with the world? I don't mean your backyard or your city. I mean, how do you engage with the world?

I tell you that I too hate our news. Fairfax, news ltd, both are disgusting. I engage in the world through the people around the world I've met, and an organisation in India I volunteer for. But it's not enough, so I read news and watch news about the going ons in the world.

How do you engage?

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Honky on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:19pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:14pm:

So how do you engage with the world? I don't mean your backyard or your city. I mean, how do you engage with the world?

I see headlines, I talk with people, and if something in particular piques my interest (eg Ukraine) I seek various sources of information on it. But beyond that, who cares what's happening on the other side of the world?

Mudslide kills 50 in bolivia? I don't give a bugger. I've never been to Bolivia and I don't know any bolivians.
I need not concern myself with such matters - it serves only to take your mind off the here and now of your own reality.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Kat on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:32pm

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:35pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:46pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

Well in 3 years they'll be 18 and be eligible to vote. And it seems they have more brains than the majority of our journalists at news ltd.

Not really. They're just trolling him, as you'd expect year 9s to.

how were they trolling him? HE asked for questions, they asked questions, he couldn't answer. you need to learn the definition of trolling.

Nah!

Both my parents always voted for the right (Menzies).

But they were actually more centrist, although growing up during the Depression
and WW2 and the later 'Communist Scare' definitely influenced them.

Neither would have voted for Abbott (and I know Dad didn't, this time, vote Lib).

My mother despised John Howard, but still voted coalition till the day she died.

I was a Whitlamite as a teen just getting into politics and the work-force, and my
parents supported that, and in fact insisted that I think for myself and make up my
own mind rather than allow them to influence me.

[smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif] To my parents. They don't come any better.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Honky on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:37pm

Kat wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:

Both my parents always voted for the right (Menzies).

And you believe that "the right"^tm of 30 years ago aligns perfectly both with the Liberal party, and "the right"^tm of today?

Further, do you believe your parents are the only influence on you?

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by alevine on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:39pm

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:19pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:14pm:

So how do you engage with the world? I don't mean your backyard or your city. I mean, how do you engage with the world?

This is probably where we disagree. We live in a more interconnected world and I feel the news around as to what's going on is important. Despite the obvious that human tragedy is human tragedy no matter where it occurs, I think it serves very important purposes. For one, it offers reflection. And also, it allows for scrutiny to be expanded, which if used right I think is fantastic.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Kat on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:47pm

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:37pm:

Kat wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:

Both my parents always voted for the right (Menzies).

And you believe that "the right"^tm of 30 years ago aligns perfectly both with the Liberal party, and "the right"^tm of today?

Further, do you believe your parents are the only influence on you?

1/ No.

2/ No.

I was responding to your point about voting by conditioning, and pointing out that it is not always so.

And that I was encouraged NOT to be influenced by these forces.

Nothing more.

**EDIT: A 'modern' Liberal would probably regard my parents as little short of communists.**

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Honky on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:48pm

Unplug man.

With the weight of the world on your shoulders, there's no capacity left to take on the burden of making your locale a better place.

bugger thinking globally, just act locally.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Honky on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:50pm

Kat wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:37pm:

Kat wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:

Both my parents always voted for the right (Menzies).

And you believe that "the right"^tm of 30 years ago aligns perfectly both with the Liberal party, and "the right"^tm of today?

Further, do you believe your parents are the only influence on you?

1/ No.

2/ No.

I was responding to your point about voting by conditioning, and pointing out that it is not always so.

And that I was encouraged NOT to be influenced by these forces.

Nothing more.

I know what you were responding to, but the two conditions I just replied with rendered your explanation obsolete.

Do I need to walk you through the reasoning how it did that, or can you "think for yourself and make up your own mind rather than allow me to influence you."?

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Kat on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:51pm

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:48pm:

Unplug man.

With the weight of the world on your shoulders, there's no capacity left to take on the burden of making your locale a better place.

bugger thinking globally, just act locally.

'Look after number one, first, foremost and always'.

Yes, it's coming to that, I think.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Honky on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:52pm

Kat wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:51pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:48pm:

Unplug man.

With the weight of the world on your shoulders, there's no capacity left to take on the burden of making your locale a better place.

bugger thinking globally, just act locally.

'Look after number one, first, foremost and always'.

Yes, it's coming to that, I think.

I guess you could read it like that if you were a hermit.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Kat on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:54pm

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:50pm:

Kat wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:37pm:

Kat wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:

Both my parents always voted for the right (Menzies).

And you believe that "the right"^tm of 30 years ago aligns perfectly both with the Liberal party, and "the right"^tm of today?

Further, do you believe your parents are the only influence on you?

1/ No.

2/ No.

I was responding to your point about voting by conditioning, and pointing out that it is not always so.

And that I was encouraged NOT to be influenced by these forces.

Nothing more.

No, they supported it.

And I did actually agree with your premise, but was trying to illustrate that it is not always the case.

Did I abuse you? Did I tell you you were full of it, or had no idea?

No.

I responded in good faith, nothing more.i

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Honky on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:57pm

Alright man. My apologies for the patronising tone. Force of habit I guess.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Kat on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 8:17pm

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:57pm:

Alright man. My apologies for the patronising tone. Force of habit I guess.

AH!... Me. too!

These fracking forums do get the emotions flowing almost as fast as the misunderstandings.

Makes me often wonder how some of us would go, even staunch opponents here, if we could
have the same discussions face-to-face over a few beers.

There'd be a lot more sense spoken, and a lot less attacks, I reckon.

So hard to say what you mean, especially if you are passionate, on a forum.

**Be good if the forum supplied beer... problem solved. :) **

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by rabbitoh08 on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 9:04pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 3:46pm:

Well done kids. Completely nailed him

What a complete clown that man is. THis is why he will not go on 7:30, Lateline, etc. No. Only the Bolt Report for old Tones. The only place where he knows the questions will be less frightening than a group of school kids.

Poor kids though - I suspect that some thugs from the military will be knocking on their doors tonight and dragging them off to Manus Is. Shhhhhhh....nobody tell - it's operational matters.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Culture Warrior on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 10:41pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 2:55pm:

How proud you must be!

Good response from Abbott. Not a clichéd one.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by The Grappler 2014 on Mar 16^th, 2014 at 12:57am

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

How TF do Year Nines get to be asking about gay marriage? FCS - is nothing sacred any more?

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by The Abzi Party on Mar 16^th, 2014 at 6:51am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 16^th, 2014 at 12:57am:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

How TF do Year Nines get to be asking about gay marriage? FCS - is nothing sacred any more?

Because it's not legal yet and unlike you, they believe it should be.

He walked into it - I guess being outsmarted by 14/15 year old's shows us his level of intellect.

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by aquascoot on Mar 16^th, 2014 at 7:09am

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:52pm:

Kat wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:51pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 7:48pm:

Unplug man.

With the weight of the world on your shoulders, there's no capacity left to take on the burden of making your locale a better place.

bugger thinking globally, just act locally.

'Look after number one, first, foremost and always'.

Yes, it's coming to that, I think.

I guess you could read it like that if you were a hermit.

Armies from Greek and roman times were always organised around a section of 10 men who cared very deeply about each other, a platoon of about 30 who were very loyal to each other and a company unit of about 100 who new they could rely on each other.

Units bigger than that simply don't work.
Stories of army divisions stealing each others equipment are totally standard.

An average wedding or 21st, usually about 100 people. More than this and the care factor drops off.

Honk is right, people who profess to care about a mudslide in Bolivia are not wired in correctly, they don't care at all. They care about the perception of caring. It's little different to leftards who love the reffos or the aborigines but would never think of going and including a reffo or aborigine in THEIR 100 let alone their 30 and never in their 10

It's why I hate people like Sarah Hansen dung,
I cannot tolerate fools :)

Title: Re: I give you the minister for woman!
Post by Phemanderac on Mar 16^th, 2014 at 7:59am

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

Only thing I wanna know is why would he bother taking questions from year 9s?

I agree because anyone with a miniscule amount of common sense knows that teens have the sharpest bullshit meters going...As is evidenced