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Message started by skippy. on Mar 15th, 2014 at 9:55pm

Title: SA election
Post by skippy. on Mar 15th, 2014 at 9:55pm
Why did the Liberal do so bad?
Labor were expected to get flogged, but they could well keep government.
I believe most people are smart enough to distinguish between federal and state issue, sure there are some fools( hi progs and co) but all in all the fact we often have different govs at state and federal level shows most do distinguish.
So the question needs to be asked, why did the Libs do so bad?

Title: Re: SA election
Post by miketrees on Mar 15th, 2014 at 9:57pm
Snowtown, thats why

Title: Re: SA election
Post by john_g on Mar 15th, 2014 at 10:07pm
The Libs got 5.25% of the two party vote.

Michael Kroger was saying that there is a big gerrymander down there, that pretty much assures Labor getting a lot of seats regardless of the two part vote.

Title: Re: SA election
Post by Bam on Mar 15th, 2014 at 10:08pm

skippy. wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 9:55pm:
Why did the Liberal do so bad?

Liberal votes tend to be concentrated in very safe Liberal seats.

Not sure why this is.

Title: Re: SA election
Post by Frances on Mar 15th, 2014 at 10:13pm

skippy. wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 9:55pm:
Why did the Liberal do so bad?


Didn't the Liberal leader tell everyone before the election to vote Labor?  Maybe the people were listening....

Title: Re: SA election
Post by Setanta on Mar 15th, 2014 at 10:19pm

Frances wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 10:13pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 9:55pm:
Why did the Liberal do so bad?


Didn't the Liberal leader tell everyone before the election to vote Labor?  Maybe the people were listening....


He should have taken the heads up from Tony, but he chose to tell the truth, strange.

Title: Re: SA election
Post by Frances on Mar 15th, 2014 at 10:26pm

Bam wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 10:08pm:
Liberal votes tend to be concentrated in very safe Liberal seats.


I know......

Title: Re: SA election
Post by GeorgeH on Mar 15th, 2014 at 11:00pm
Marshall said he wouldn’t fight Tony Abbott. Lost the election right there! Simian as popular as a pork chop at a synagogue!

Title: Re: SA election
Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 15th, 2014 at 11:02pm

Bam wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 10:08pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 9:55pm:
Why did the Liberal do so bad?

Liberal votes tend to be concentrated in very safe Liberal seats.

Not sure why this is.


they are known as higher socio economic areas

Title: Re: SA election
Post by GeorgeH on Mar 15th, 2014 at 11:12pm
Not all Sprinty. Some are dirt poor farmers who think the Nats or Libs give a stuff about them.

Title: Re: SA election
Post by Psycho analist on Mar 15th, 2014 at 11:20pm
Ven you consider the class of people's that inhabits zee middle of Australia, it vos always going to be tough for a decent hardvorking party to win zee election. After all, zis is where zey managed to scrape ze bottom of the barrel and find one of zee last labor prime ministers. It's a gene pool zat is as shallow as it is narrow.

Title: Re: SA election
Post by gandalf on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:16am

Quote:
Why did the Liberal do so bad?


Someone I know from Adelaide said that there are a lot of infrastructure projects currently going on in Adelaide, and there is widespread concern that a liberal govt would pull the plug on those projects.

Weatherill needs to be commended for an excellent campaign. Very few state governments are competitive at elections after 12 years in power.

Probably the best case scenario for labor both SA and federally is to have a hung parliament and the independents supporting a minority liberal government. A minority lib government in the backdrop of wall-to-wall liberal state governments is the best way of getting liberals on the electorates' nose.

Title: Re: SA election
Post by skippy. on Mar 16th, 2014 at 8:38am
What a disaster for the liberal party. I wonder if they will approach Alex Downer ,AGAIN, to lead them.

Title: Re: SA election
Post by True Blue... on Mar 16th, 2014 at 8:50am

skippy. wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 9:55pm:
Why did the Liberal do so bad?
Labor were expected to get flogged, but they could well keep government.
I believe most people are smart enough to distinguish between federal and state issue, sure there are some fools( hi progs and co) but all in all the fact we often have different govs at state and federal level shows most do distinguish.
So the question needs to be asked, why did the Libs do so bad?


polls before the election showed a Hung Parliament...

not sure what you were looking at...

Title: Re: SA election
Post by skippy. on Mar 16th, 2014 at 8:52am

True Blue... wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 8:50am:

skippy. wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 9:55pm:
Why did the Liberal do so bad?
Labor were expected to get flogged, but they could well keep government.
I believe most people are smart enough to distinguish between federal and state issue, sure there are some fools( hi progs and co) but all in all the fact we often have different govs at state and federal level shows most do distinguish.
So the question needs to be asked, why did the Libs do so bad?


polls before the election showed a Hung Parliament...

not sure what you were looking at...

Really? Not according to all the news services. But really ,who cares about pissant states like Tassy or SA? Wonder what happened to Mellie? ;D :D ;D

Title: Re: SA election
Post by miketrees on Mar 16th, 2014 at 9:13am
Re: SA election
Reply #10 - Yesterday at 11:20pm Quote  Ven you consider the class of people's that inhabits zee middle of Australia, it vos always going to be tough for a decent hardvorking party to win zee election. After all, zis is where zey managed to scrape ze bottom of the barrel and find one of zee last labor prime ministers. It's a gene pool zat is as shallow as it is narrow

At last some one that understands

South Australia gave us Snowtown its no great leap to go from that to electing a Labor government.

Title: Re: SA election
Post by Grendel on Mar 16th, 2014 at 9:26am

skippy. wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 8:52am:

True Blue... wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 8:50am:

skippy. wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 9:55pm:
Why did the Liberal do so bad?
Labor were expected to get flogged, but they could well keep government.
I believe most people are smart enough to distinguish between federal and state issue, sure there are some fools( hi progs and co) but all in all the fact we often have different govs at state and federal level shows most do distinguish.
So the question needs to be asked, why did the Libs do so bad?


polls before the election showed a Hung Parliament...

not sure what you were looking at...

Really? Not according to all the news services. But really ,who cares about pissant states like Tassy or SA? Wonder what happened to Mellie? ;D :D ;D

Ah yes Squippy....  in the last week the polls showed quite a distinct tightening and even Abbott stated quite correctly that SA was going to be very close. ;)

Title: Re: SA election
Post by buzzanddidj on Mar 16th, 2014 at 9:53am
ANYONE with the slightest concern for the environment would epitomise "HYPOCRITE" - were they not praying for a clear Labor Government return to control and power



South Australia and the ACT - under Labor - are the country's last enclaves and hopes for a chance and future for SUSTAINABLE, RENEWABLE ENERGY




Wind farms churn out more than half SA's electricity during wild weather



27 Aug 2013






A record amount of wind energy generated in southern Australia last week demonstrates the need for more investment in renewable technology.

In recent wild weather, wind turbines produced almost half of South Australia's electricity, while 10 per cent of Victoria's energy was delivered by wind farms.

The Clean Energy Council says wind farms powered the equivalent of 2.3 million homes nationwide.

Conservation council chief executive Tim Kelly says South Australia is on track to achieve its 2020 renewable energy target of 33 per cent.

Mr Kelly says wind farms are a proven power source and the recent result should prompt more ambitious renewable energy targets.

"South Australia can make electricity when the wind blows. We can also make electricity when the sun shines and we can also expand in hot rocks and other renewable supplies but we've got so much wind electricity established now that during these periods at this time of the year in particular we're generating lots of wind power," he said.

"Where will the next 30 per cent of renewable electricity come from in South Australia by say 2030?

"That's going to take a different thinking where we connect to the great wind resources on Eyre Peninsula and we've also got these great solar resources and projects like the Repower Port Augusta large-scale concentrated solar thermal power plant."




http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-27/wind-energy-generation-record/4914266








Title: Re: SA election
Post by Bam on Mar 16th, 2014 at 5:14pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 9:53am:

Quote:
"Where will the next 30 per cent of renewable electricity come from in South Australia by say 2030?

"That's going to take a different thinking where we connect to the great wind resources on Eyre Peninsula and we've also got these great solar resources and projects like the Repower Port Augusta large-scale concentrated solar thermal power plant."

Geothermal - South Australia has enough geothermal energy to power that state for thousands of years, if only they can tap it and ship it.

Title: Re: SA election
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16th, 2014 at 5:18pm

Bam wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 5:14pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 9:53am:

Quote:
"Where will the next 30 per cent of renewable electricity come from in South Australia by say 2030?

"That's going to take a different thinking where we connect to the great wind resources on Eyre Peninsula and we've also got these great solar resources and projects like the Repower Port Augusta large-scale concentrated solar thermal power plant."

Geothermal - South Australia has enough geothermal energy to power that state for thousands of years, if only they can tap it and ship it.


the technological problems are continually defeating it.  a 4km hole is hardly a cheap exercise and you need 9 for a pilot plant.  and you can drill them and find... nothing.

geothermal has great potential but is is to date an extensive failure.  oh and the billion dollar cost of a 500Mw transmission line is not helping the viability question.

Title: Re: SA election
Post by GeorgeH on Mar 16th, 2014 at 9:15pm
Not technological problems—just finding unfractured rock has bedevilled geo in Qld.

Title: Re: SA election
Post by miketrees on Mar 16th, 2014 at 9:38pm
Wind farms churn out more than half SA's electricity during wild weather


Probably because any industry in SA using power has left.

We should have had managed investment schemes in renewables instead of all the dodgy timber, grape and agricultural schemes.

Title: Re: SA election
Post by GeorgeH on Mar 16th, 2014 at 9:47pm

miketrees wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 9:38pm:
Wind farms churn out more than half SA's electricity during wild weather


Probably because any industry in SA using power has left.

We should have had managed investment schemes in renewables instead of all the dodgy timber, grape and agricultural schemes.

You want dodgy managed investment schemes in renewables?

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