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Message started by Aussie on Mar 28th, 2014 at 2:11pm

Title: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Mar 28th, 2014 at 2:11pm
When  Tony Fitzgerald (yeas the bloke who lead the Fitzgerald Inquiry into the corruption of the Joh era) sends out public comments of this kind, it is time to take notice.

Click here.


Quote:
“In one sense, she was an obvious target. It was the Court of Appeal over which she presides which held that Bleijie’s madcap scheme to give himself power to overrule a court’s decision that a prisoner be released was invalid.

“Bleijie’s bizarre response includes a proposal for a new appeal court gives some indication of how far the Justice Department is out of control.

“It is appalling that a junior solicitor appointed to a position which is unsurprisingly far beyond his competence and experience has betrayed her honour’s confidence and defamed her.

“His hubris is breathtaking.”


This will end in tears.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 28th, 2014 at 10:12pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 28th, 2014 at 2:11pm:
When  Tony Fitzgerald (yeas the bloke who lead the Fitzgerald Inquiry into the corruption of the Joh era) sends out public comments of this kind, it is time to take notice.

Click here.


Quote:
“In one sense, she was an obvious target. It was the Court of Appeal over which she presides which held that Bleijie’s madcap scheme to give himself power to overrule a court’s decision that a prisoner be released was invalid.

“Bleijie’s bizarre response includes a proposal for a new appeal court gives some indication of how far the Justice Department is out of control.

“It is appalling that a junior solicitor appointed to a position which is unsurprisingly far beyond his competence and experience has betrayed her honour’s confidence and defamed her.

“His hubris is breathtaking.”


This will end in tears.


Jarrod Bleijie and Campbell Newman think that they can take away peoples basic human rights and people will accept it......Who would want to live in Queensland with this mob in charge???

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/former-queensland-corruption-buster-tony-fitzgerald-hits-newman-government-for-bringing-cmc-under-state-control/story-fnihsrf2-1226867958068

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:57pm
This litigation has been signalled previously, but it is now on.  Newmann and Bleijie are personally heading to the Supreme Court being sued by a Lawyer for defamation.

They will of course be defended at the expense of the public purse.

Click here.

I really hope Hannah does not settle pre Trial, and that he makes this pair of turkeys get in a Witness Box in a Trial so that we can publicly have their guts for garters.  There is no room to hide and fudge in that Box.

Yay!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bread and Butter on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:59pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 28th, 2014 at 2:11pm:
When  Tony Fitzgerald (yeas the bloke who lead the Fitzgerald Inquiry into the corruption of the Joh era) sends out public comments of this kind, it is time to take notice.

Click here.


Quote:
“In one sense, she was an obvious target. It was the Court of Appeal over which she presides which held that Bleijie’s madcap scheme to give himself power to overrule a court’s decision that a prisoner be released was invalid.

“Bleijie’s bizarre response includes a proposal for a new appeal court gives some indication of how far the Justice Department is out of control.

“It is appalling that a junior solicitor appointed to a position which is unsurprisingly far beyond his competence and experience has betrayed her honour’s confidence and defamed her.

“His hubris is breathtaking.”


This will end in tears.


Queensland and law has always sat poorly.  Perhaps an Upper House would help.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 5:09pm
An upper house here will be as useless as the Senate in Canberra if the Government (no matter what colour) controls it.

If there was an upper house here now, controlled by the ALP, Newmann would be on his arse.....thrown out at what I assume would be a DD type election.  The bloke is a complete nutter, drunk with the arrogance of power and position.

PUP is fuelling up.  There is no election due here for two years, yet in today's mail, I received a letter from Palmer and a PUP DVD....as part of a campaign he is obviously gearing up for ...... I guess....this year.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Grendel on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:25pm
Queensland land of the Gerrymander.
Queensland the state that gaoled Hanson and Ettridge.
Queensland confused one day, appalling the next.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:29pm

Grendel wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:25pm:
Queensland land of the Gerrymander.  Under Joh.
Queensland the state that gaoled Hanson and Ettridge. When Abbott used the slush fund.
Queensland confused one day, appalling the next. 100% correct.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Grendel on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:29pm
Since Aussie is our PUP and Qld authority par excellence, perhaps he could enlighten us why Newman was elected Brisbane's Lord Mayor and later State Premier...  if he is really such a rotter?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Grendel on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:32pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:29pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:25pm:
Queensland land of the Gerrymander.  Under Joh.
Queensland the state that gaoled Hanson and Ettridge. When Abbott used the slush fund.
Queensland confused one day, appalling the next. 100% correct.

I think you'll find your  extras were unnecessary as they didn't contradict anything i said or i'd think add information people didn't already know.
Queensland is the common denominator.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:45pm

Grendel wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:29pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:25pm:
Queensland land of the Gerrymander.  Under Joh.
Queensland the state that gaoled Hanson and Ettridge. When Abbott used the slush fund.
Queensland confused one day, appalling the next. 100% correct.

I think you'll find your  extras were unnecessary in the case of the gerrymander, it did add by pointing out that the gerrymander was Joh's doing as they didn't contradict anything i said but it did inform people that the Hanson persecution was at the hand of Abbott or i'd think add information people didn't already know.But you omitted pointing out other relevant facts.
Queensland is the common denominator. Yeas, all with LNP activity.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:09pm

Grendel wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:29pm:
Since Aussie is our PUP and Qld authority par excellence, perhaps he could enlighten us why Newman was elected Brisbane's Lord Mayor and later State Premier...  if he is really such a rotter?


he lied in his application  :D :D :D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:16pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:09pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:29pm:
Since Aussie is our PUP and Qld authority par excellence, perhaps he could enlighten us why Newman was elected Brisbane's Lord Mayor and later State Premier...  if he is really such a rotter?


he lied in his application  :D :D :D


Yeas, Newmann did.  He conned Brisbane and the State.  But.....he is about to be shown the door.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bread and Butter on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:37pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 5:09pm:
An upper house here will be as useless as the Senate in Canberra if the Government (no matter what colour) controls it.

If there was an upper house here now, controlled by the ALP, Newmann would be on his arse.....thrown out at what I assume would be a DD type election.  The bloke is a complete nutter, drunk with the arrogance of power and position.

PUP is fuelling up.  There is no election due here for two years, yet in today's mail, I received a letter from Palmer and a PUP DVD....as part of a campaign he is obviously gearing up for ...... I guess....this year.


QLD is the only state without an upper house... and it shows.

PUP is down 1.5% since the federal election.  Is that part of the 'gearing up'?  And what do you think happens to PUP when Palmer loses interest as he certainly will do?  No funding at all, no leadership structure and it will make One Nation look competent and organised by comparison.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:50pm

Bread and Butter wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:37pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 5:09pm:
An upper house here will be as useless as the Senate in Canberra if the Government (no matter what colour) controls it.

If there was an upper house here now, controlled by the ALP, Newmann would be on his arse.....thrown out at what I assume would be a DD type election.  The bloke is a complete nutter, drunk with the arrogance of power and position.

PUP is fuelling up.  There is no election due here for two years, yet in today's mail, I received a letter from Palmer and a PUP DVD....as part of a campaign he is obviously gearing up for ...... I guess....this year.


QLD is the only state without an upper house... and it shows.

PUP is down 1.5% since the federal election.  Is that part of the 'gearing up'?  And what do you think happens to PUP when Palmer loses interest as he certainly will do?  No funding at all, no leadership structure and it will make One Nation look competent and organised by comparison.


Does it look to you that Palmer is bored, losing interest or running out of personal motivation, or money?  I think it was you who posted that he (allegedly) outspent everyone in WA by a factor of ten....and he just funded (full on) a campaign in Tasmania, and he is getting ready to politically decapitate his other LNP enemy (he already has Abbott's head in the political bag) Newmann, in Queensland.

Clive is fair dinkum about this, and he does have credible policies.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Grendel on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:57pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:45pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:29pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:25pm:
Queensland land of the Gerrymander.  Under Joh.
Queensland the state that gaoled Hanson and Ettridge. When Abbott used the slush fund.
Queensland confused one day, appalling the next. 100% correct.

I think you'll find your  extras were unnecessary in the case of the gerrymander, it did add by pointing out that the gerrymander was Joh's doing as they didn't contradict anything i said but it did inform people that the Hanson persecution was at the hand of Abbott or i'd think add information people didn't already know.But you omitted pointing out other relevant facts.
Queensland is the common denominator. Yeas, all with LNP activity.

I keep forgetting English isn't your first language Gunga.  :D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aristo-Kat on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 10:00pm

Queensland.

Beautiful one day.

Fascist sh1t-hole the next.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Culture Warrior on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 9:03am

Kat wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 10:00pm:
Queensland.

Beautiful one day.

Fascist sh1t-hole the next.


Yet, many of us who live here have no problem.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by King Bam The Mystic on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 1:03pm

Bread and Butter wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
Queensland and law has always sat poorly.  Perhaps an Upper House would help.



Aussie wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 5:09pm:
An upper house here will be as useless as the Senate in Canberra if the Government (no matter what colour) controls it.

New Zealand has no Upper House either, yet they do fine.

The difference is the electoral system. New Zealand has a Mixed Member Proportional (MMP) system. Two-thirds of the seats are local members, one-third are list seats so any party with at least 5% of the vote is guaranteed seats in proportional representation.

New Zealand has been governed by coalitions ever since the system was introduced. The system works well because it is very difficult for one party to win control.

Queensland should adopt a similar system.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 11th, 2014 at 7:40pm
This belongs here

Request from the Most Humble Aussie follows............

If a new Thread is started about Qld Politics, can it also be linked here.......it will be useful......leading up to next year's (maybe) State election.

Tendewberrymud.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Peter Freedman on Apr 11th, 2014 at 8:29pm

Bam wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 1:03pm:

Bread and Butter wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
Queensland and law has always sat poorly.  Perhaps an Upper House would help.



Aussie wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 5:09pm:
An upper house here will be as useless as the Senate in Canberra if the Government (no matter what colour) controls it.

New Zealand has no Upper House either, yet they do fine.

The difference is the electoral system. New Zealand has a Mixed Member Proportional (MMP) system. Two-thirds of the seats are local members, one-third are list seats so any party with at least 5% of the vote is guaranteed seats in proportional representation.

New Zealand has been governed by coalitions ever since the system was introduced. The system works well because it is very difficult for one party to win control.

Queensland should adopt a similar system.


Spot on. As a member of the ALP, I tried to persuade my local branch that PR was the way to go.

They weren't interested.

But the system works well in NZ and stops the type of extremist nonsense we are now seeing from the Newman regime.

Cynically pushing the Laura Norder button to attract the redneck vote is a favourite ploy of rightwing political parties.

Unobstructed, they simply go overboard. They require someone to say: "Hey, you need our support to get this fascist legislation through and we are withholding it. Suck on that and come back with something sensible."

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 11th, 2014 at 8:39pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 11th, 2014 at 8:29pm:

Bam wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 1:03pm:

Bread and Butter wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
Queensland and law has always sat poorly.  Perhaps an Upper House would help.



Aussie wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 5:09pm:
An upper house here will be as useless as the Senate in Canberra if the Government (no matter what colour) controls it.

New Zealand has no Upper House either, yet they do fine.

The difference is the electoral system. New Zealand has a Mixed Member Proportional (MMP) system. Two-thirds of the seats are local members, one-third are list seats so any party with at least 5% of the vote is guaranteed seats in proportional representation.

New Zealand has been governed by coalitions ever since the system was introduced. The system works well because it is very difficult for one party to win control.

Queensland should adopt a similar system.


Spot on. As a member of the ALP, I tried to persuade my local branch that PR was the way to go.

They weren't interested.

But the system works well in NZ and stops the type of extremist nonsense we are now seeing from the Newman regime.

Cynically pushing the Laura Norder button to attract the redneck vote is a favourite ploy of rightwing political parties.

Unobstructed, they simply go overboard. They require someone to say: "Hey, you need our support to get this fascist legislation through and we are withholding it. Suck on that and come back with something sensible."


How does that work, and dumb it down for me, please?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Peter Freedman on Apr 11th, 2014 at 8:54pm
Hmmm

8-)  :o

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Peter Freedman on Apr 11th, 2014 at 8:55pm
[quote author=Peter_Freedman link=1395979880/21#21 date=1397213656]Okay, I'll try.

You get two votes. An electoral vote to select your MP. This works on a simple First Past the Post principle.

Then you have your party vote, where you select the party you want in government.

To be elected government you must have the majority support of Parliament. This inevitably means coalition governments.

Unless they win an absolute majority, which has so far never happened, no party can govern alone.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 12:54pm
No doubt about it.  Our LNP Pollies have very strong ethics.

Click here


Quote:
Gympie MP David Gibson is under pressure to resign from the State Parliament's Select Ethics Committee over claims he stole thousands of dollars while in the army.

Former LNP member-turned independent candidate Scott Elms has released court documents that show Mr Gibson faced the ACT Magistrates Court in 1999 and was allegedly found guilty of theft for stealing $7,000.

Mr Gibson was placed on a 12-month good behaviour bond and ordered to pay a $1,000 surety, but no conviction was recorded.

The Queensland MP  today denied he is unfit to head the Ethics Committee.

He told ABC Radio the charges - dating back to when he was a 31-year-old officer in the army in 1999 - had given him the life experience needed to do his job better.

"I wish I could go back and change the past but I can't, but what I can do is learn from the past," Mr Gibson said.

"It has made a better person because of the lesson I have taken from it.''

Independent Nambour-based MP Peter Wellington is calling for Mr Gibson to step down as head of the parliamentary committee.

Mr Wellington says the latest claims raise serious questions about whether Mr Gibson should remain in Parliament, the ABC reported.

"The matters that I've now been perusing really raise questions in my mind about the fitness of Mr Gibson to not just continue to be a member of our State Parliament, but more importantly, about his fitness to chair this select parliamentary committee - a parliamentary committee chosen to investigate serious matters," he said.







Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by cods on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 1:42pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 12:54pm:
No doubt about it.  Our LNP Pollies have very strong ethics.

Click here


Quote:
Gympie MP David Gibson is under pressure to resign from the State Parliament's Select Ethics Committee over claims he stole thousands of dollars while in the army.

Former LNP member-turned independent candidate Scott Elms has released court documents that show Mr Gibson faced the ACT Magistrates Court in 1999 and was allegedly found guilty of theft for stealing $7,000.

Mr Gibson was placed on a 12-month good behaviour bond and ordered to pay a $1,000 surety, but no conviction was recorded.

The Queensland MP  today denied he is unfit to head the Ethics Committee.

He told ABC Radio the charges - dating back to when he was a 31-year-old officer in the army in 1999 - had given him the life experience needed to do his job better.

"I wish I could go back and change the past but I can't, but what I can do is learn from the past," Mr Gibson said.

"It has made a better person because of the lesson I have taken from it.''

Independent Nambour-based MP Peter Wellington is calling for Mr Gibson to step down as head of the parliamentary committee.

Mr Wellington says the latest claims raise serious questions about whether Mr Gibson should remain in Parliament, the ABC reported.

"The matters that I've now been perusing really raise questions in my mind about the fitness of Mr Gibson to not just continue to be a member of our State Parliament, but more importantly, about his fitness to chair this select parliamentary committee - a parliamentary committee chosen to investigate serious matters," he said.



its a conundrum isnt it??..

hes stood down and rightly so... I am wondering though why has this come up NOW?..

yes he did something terrible he stole a lot of money.......but in 1999..no conviction...recorded...why NOW are you being told.. aussie any idea?..

seems a bit like closing the door after the horse has bolted...

or is there a dirt bucket up there

this guy was 31 so no excuses for him that for sure...but

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Swagman on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 1:45pm
Go the Blues.....

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 1:57pm

Quote:
its a conundrum isnt it??..

hes stood down and rightly so... I am wondering though why has this come up NOW?..


He has not stood down unless that is a very last hour development.  It has come up now because of a local Gympie shite fight between the referred to Elms and Gibson, former buddies.  Elms is after Gibson's seat, and the next Qld State election is only a blink of an eye away.


Quote:
yes he did something terrible he stole a lot of money.......but in 1999..no conviction...recorded...why NOW are you being told.. aussie any idea?..


See above.


Quote:
seems a bit like closing the door after the horse has bolted...

or is there a dirt bucket up there


Yeas, I reckon there is.  It's always those whom you trusted who know where you have hidden the skeletons.


Quote:
this guy was 31 so no excuses for him that for sure...but



There is no but unless he declared it prior when he was given LNP endorsement.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 3:37pm
...and more.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 25th, 2014 at 7:10pm
Newmann is slowly but surely coming apart.  More is emerging in the fall-out of the Gibson matter.

Click here.


Quote:
Mr Douglas said Mr Newman had failed to tell the truth about when he first became aware of the fact that Mr Gibson had pleaded guilty to stealing money from the mess hall by creating false invoices, and must now consider his own future in Parliament.

Mr Newman told newspapers this week his first knowledge of the matter was three weeks ago when he immediately referred it to the Clerk of Parliament.

However, Cooloola Coast LNP branch president Graham Engeman has confirmed a letter received last August from Mr Elms had been referred immediately to LNP headquarters.

Mr Elms, Mr Gibson's former campaign manager and a long-term LNP member, was expelled from the party early this month.

He claimed yesterday he was advised by army officers at Duntroon who had served with Mr Newman that they had contacted the Premier's office immediately after Mr Gibson was appointed Police Minister in 2012, warning of his past.


It's only a question of when, Campbell Newman.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 29th, 2014 at 1:28pm
And now we have allegations of Cops bugging the phone of Independant  MP Peter Wellington, a former Police Officer and Solicitor.

Click here.

I can't find a link to this but it is part of the Editorial in today's Sunshine Coast Daily.

These claims by Wellington are quite wild, but what is giving them credibility is that on no less than three occasions, the Schmedia have asked the Police Minister the point blank question ~ Is Wellington's phone being tapped?  On  each occasion, he has not responded with a 'No.'

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 29th, 2014 at 2:39pm
Clive/PUP making serious inroads in Queensland ~ and not even in an Election!

Click here.

Ya see, there are blokes in the LNP Government being ignored by Newman.  Join PUP ~ and they'll have a voice/influence.  If enough come across, PUP will have the balance of power.


Quote:
Meanwhile, Labor expects the PUP to grab a significant chunk of the conservative vote on the Sunshine and Gold coasts – traditionally conservative strongholds – meaning the LNP will have to pour resources into combating the minor party.


Dunno about the Gold Coast ~ but I reckon PUP will take all but one of the LNP Seats here on the Sunshine Coast.




Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Apr 29th, 2014 at 6:30pm
When  Tony Fitzgerald (yeas the bloke who lead the Fitzgerald Inquiry into the corruption of the Joh era) sends out public comments of this kind, it is time to take notice.

]“In one sense, she was an obvious target. It was the Court of Appeal over which she presides which held that Bleijie’s madcap scheme to give himself power to overrule a court’s decision that a prisoner be released was invalid.

“Bleijie’s bizarre response includes a proposal for a new appeal court gives some indication of how far the Justice Department is out of control.

“It is appalling that a junior solicitor appointed to a position which is unsurprisingly far beyond his competence and experience has betrayed her honour’s confidence and defamed her.

“His hubris is breathtaking.”[/quote]

This will end in tears.[/quote]

Sir Joh faced separation of powers charge. February this year Bleijie personally in writing informed the Courts they not have his consent to hear criminal charges against an employee of his federal registered business. They an employee of can do engaged in extortion; the abuse of office powers to obtain. Can do Campbell instruction all claim for money by his government be registered  with usurper to courts that stand between government and the people. Who for a fee and charge not care no court has heard. Usurper has powers way beyond any Magistrate plus having the Attorney Generals protection no court shall see the government recordings of criminal activity.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 29th, 2014 at 8:47pm
FIFO:

For those not in the know ~ it means Fly In Fly Out and it predominately is about mining/gas towns.  Lots of jobs there, but no-one wants to live there.

So....the Resource Companies recruit from more pleasant or coastal regions, and every Monday, their workforce gets on a Company chartered plane and flies to the workplace where they are accommodated in demountables close to work.  At the end of their work period (which varies) they are flown home....and on it goes.

Of course, that means the local community which hosts the workplace never gets population growth and community impetus.  Most just fly in and fly out with scant to zero regard for building a family environment.

This issue is an other one which will take the LNP up here to a political precipice.

Link.

And another link for your amusement.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Holy Copper on Apr 29th, 2014 at 9:12pm
FIFO hollows out the towns where the FIFO miners live when not working. They are paid huge wages and bid up the cost of rental accommodation. Soon nurses, teachers, cops, firies etc etc can’t afford to live in the town and leave, leaving the town bereft of teachers and the rest.

Gladstone is one example, look through some of the local Gladstone paper.

Mining companies make big bucks, state govt gets nice royalties, the increase in rents pushes up property values and so council rates.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 30th, 2014 at 1:05pm
Link ~ Just more Editorial commentary on the Gibson matter ~ the bloke who failed to come clean about his past as a bloody thief.  Please keep in mind that this thief was Newman's Police Minister ~ sacked because of traffic offences, and then Chair of an  Ethics Committee from which he has now stood down.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Apr 30th, 2014 at 6:07pm
Quote. "This litigation has been signalled previously, but it is now on.  Newmann and Bleijie are personally heading to the Supreme Court being sued by a Lawyer for defamation."

Reply. Interesting that the Lawyer first not need have to obtain Mr Bleijie personal permission for the Courts to hear.   

Without having Mr Bleijie personal permission they can, the Courts cannot hear criminal charges against Mr Newman or Mr Bleijie. Section 514 QLD Criminal Code.






Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Apr 30th, 2014 at 6:15pm

DaS Energy wrote on Apr 30th, 2014 at 6:07pm:
Quote. "This litigation has been signalled previously, but it is now on.  Newmann and Bleijie are personally heading to the Supreme Court being sued by a Lawyer for defamation."

Reply. Interesting that the Lawyer first not need have to obtain Mr Bleijie personal permission for the Courts to hear.   

Without having Mr Bleijie personal permission they can, the Courts cannot hear criminal charges against Mr Newman or Mr Bleijie. Section 514 QLD Criminal Code.


You need no-one's permission to commence a civil action against a politician.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Apr 30th, 2014 at 6:31pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 30th, 2014 at 6:15pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Apr 30th, 2014 at 6:07pm:
Quote. "This litigation has been signalled previously, but it is now on.  Newmann and Bleijie are personally heading to the Supreme Court being sued by a Lawyer for defamation."

Reply. Interesting that the Lawyer first not need have to obtain Mr Bleijie personal permission for the Courts to hear.   

Without having Mr Bleijie personal permission they can, the Courts cannot hear criminal charges against Mr Newman or Mr Bleijie. Section 514 QLD Criminal Code.


You need no-one's permission to commence a civil action against a politician.


That is correct. However be witness to or be records holder giving account of criminal activity abusing the position of office they hold, then Mr Bleijie personal permission must be obtained for the Courts to hear.

Campbell Newman can criminally take a persons license and their home without a Magistrate being involved, and no Magistrate hear the crime as Mr Bleijie has not given his personal permission for the Courts to hear the criminal charges against Campbell Newman.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on May 1st, 2014 at 10:28am
Newman has signalled changes to the CMC ~ what is meant to be the Qld. equivalent of ICAC.  He intends to make it a Government controlled and therefore totally not independant feather duster.  Tony Fitzgerald (of Fitzgerald Inquiry fame) the bloke credited with forcing the creation of the CJC which later became the CMC is furious, and is not mincing his words.

Click here.


Quote:
Former Queensland corruption fighter Tony Fitzgerald has labelled the Newman Government "inexperienced, arrogant fools" over controversial new changes to the Crime and Misconduct Commission (CMC).

Controversial changes to the CMC have been endorsed by LNP members of a parliamentary committee.

If the laws are passed, bipartisan approval would no longer be required when selecting a CMC chairperson and other senior appointments.

Labor and independent MPs on the parliamentary committee say the changes trash the legacy of the Fitzgerald inquiry into corruption and should be voted down.

"This debacle will adversely affect Queenslanders and ultimately end in tears for the Government, which has staked our future and its future on the whims of a few inexperienced, arrogant fools who seem unaware of the extent of their own ignorance," Mr Fitzgerald wrote in an email to the ABC.

"Of course, anyone who knows the numbers on the committee doesn't need to see the report to know the outcome.

"A more interesting question is what role the Justice Department played in the preparation of the Committee's report."



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on May 2nd, 2014 at 1:08pm
Can do Campbell's Government has already neutered the CMC, Campbell makes one phone to his Minister and the  Ministers anonymous employee shuts down the CMC investigation. Example investigation into criminal activity anonymous Can Do employee inflicts punishment upon those who refuse to pay Can Do's demand for money without Can Do first getting a Court to back him, money is actually owed and it not a criminal Can Do fund raising exercise. Can Do Campbell is spread public in Facebook, no can do a Can Do denial, that would only increase his criminal activities whilst head of the QLD Government.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by mozzaok on May 2nd, 2014 at 1:52pm
After reading Campbell Newmans statements, I cannot see how he could possibly successfully defend this case.
It seems the only real question the judge/s? will need to consider just what financial sum is appropriate punishment.
If it was me in charge, I would bankrupt the fool, as a lesson to others, not to abuse their powers.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on May 2nd, 2014 at 4:47pm

mozzaok wrote on May 2nd, 2014 at 1:52pm:
After reading Campbell Newmans statements, I cannot see how he could possibly successfully defend this case.
It seems the only real question the judge/s? will need to consider just what financial sum is appropriate punishment.
If it was me in charge, I would bankrupt the fool, as a lesson to others, not to abuse their powers.


Can Do knows he in deep poo, he must keep favour with the Minister for Justice or Can Do done in a Court.

Can Does need to pay off the Minister for his services wouldn't involve any other criminal activity now would it.

Can Do is clinging desperately to his Minister to use his power to keep the Courts from hearing Can Do.

Once pals of Can Do who helped him setting things up aren't real happy about the Court getting a whiff of what they been up too.

They all will try and dumb it out but the world is now tech savvy, Internet and Facebook are just the start of the parade Can Do cant bully or buy! 


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Holy Copper on May 2nd, 2014 at 5:41pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:29pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:25pm:
Queensland land of the Gerrymander.  Under Joh.
Queensland the state that gaoled Hanson and Ettridge. When Abbott used the slush fund.
Queensland confused one day, appalling the next. 100% correct.

Someone will push monkeyman into the ICAC poo, the slush fund a perfect opportunity. Not a spill, a forced resignation. Sooner the better for this country and its people!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on May 2nd, 2014 at 6:04pm

St George of the Garden wrote on May 2nd, 2014 at 5:41pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:29pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:25pm:
Queensland land of the Gerrymander.  Under Joh.
Queensland the state that gaoled Hanson and Ettridge. When Abbott used the slush fund.
Queensland confused one day, appalling the next. 100% correct.

Someone will push monkeyman into the ICAC poo, the slush fund a perfect opportunity. Not a spill, a forced resignation. Sooner the better for this country and its people!


Can Do Campbell has already had a mention however ICAC is NSW not QLD and can do be doing all possible to make sure ICAC have that stapled to their forehead.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on May 2nd, 2014 at 7:53pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 30th, 2014 at 1:05pm:
Link ~ Just more Editorial commentary on the Gibson matter ~ the bloke who failed to come clean about his past as a bloody thief.  Please keep in mind that this thief was Newman's Police Minister ~ sacked because of traffic offences, and then Chair of an  Ethics Committee from which he has now stood down.



And here is the temporary outcome.  I doubt he can hold on until the next election.  He is a shot duck.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on May 2nd, 2014 at 11:12pm
[quote author=Aussie Just more Editorial commentary on the Gibson matter ~ the bloke who failed to come clean about his past as a bloody thief.  Please keep in mind that this thief was Newman's Police Minister ~ sacked because of traffic offences, and then Chair of an  Ethics Committee from which he has now stood down quote]

]And here is the temporary outcome.  I doubt he can hold on until the next election.  He is a shot duck.[/quote]

Removed from Police driving unlicensed. Question a SPER confiscation and further penalty, drink driving, run out of points what?  :-X


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on May 6th, 2014 at 4:35pm
This is 34 minutes of radio worth listening to.  Allan Jones on corruption up here.  In 34 minutes, Jones covers recent events very well, and it must send a shiver down every LNP supporter's spine that it is Jones on the anti Newmann war path.

Click here.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on May 23rd, 2014 at 4:17pm
Yeas.  A by-election in Qld.  Fantastic, and let's see The Can't cop a belting!

Click here.

Davis has been a 'renegade' for some months.  Firstly, he sided with Qld Health Medicos (he is a Medico.....and was  Assistant Minister in the Health portfolio) in their War against Newmann's new employment contracts.  Then came the attack on the CMC.  This bloke was a Member of Cabinet.  Cabinet made a decision to proceed with the changes.  This is where he came unstuck.  Cabinet solidarity required that he hold the line, but instead, he personally polled his Electorate to see how they wanted him to vote.  Eventually, he voted to support stuffing the CMC....but he gave Newmann the chance to sack him from Cabinet, and he was.

Since then, PUP has said they don't want him, and he been allowed back into the Party Room.....but then.....there was last night.

The LNP increased the minimum amount of what must be declared by way of political donation to any party from $1,000.00 to $12,400.00 (which is the Federal threshold.)  He had opposed that in the Party Room, and was absent from Parliament last night when it was voted in.

So....now he has resigned absolutely!  More power to his elbow, and if I ever see him live, I'll buy him a beer.

By-election Newmann, you prick.  Assume the position!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on May 23rd, 2014 at 4:34pm

Aussie wrote on May 23rd, 2014 at 4:17pm:
Yeas.  A by-election in Qld.  Fantastic, and let's see The Can't cop a belting!

Click here.

Davis has been a 'renegade' for some months.  Firstly, he sided with Qld Health Medicos (he is a Medico.....and was  Assistant Minister in the Health portfolio) in their War against Newmann's new employment contracts.  Then came the attack on the CMC.  This bloke was a Member of Cabinet.  Cabinet made a decision to proceed with the changes.  This is where he came unstuck.  Cabinet solidarity required that he hold the line, but instead, he personally polled his Electorate to see how they wanted him to vote.  Eventually, he voted to support stuffing the CMC....but he gave Newmann the chance to sack him from Cabinet, and he was.

Since then, PUP has said they don't want him, and he been allowed back into the Party Room.....but then.....there was last night.

The LNP increased the minimum amount of what must be declared by way of political donation to any party from $1,000.00 to $12,400.00 (which is the Federal threshold.)  He had opposed that in the Party Room, and was absent from Parliament last night when it was voted in.

So....now he has resigned absolutely!  More power to his elbow, and if I ever see him live, I'll buy him a beer.

By-election Newmann, you prick.  Assume the position!



OLD NEWS read before, listened to before, rabied bullshit set up to make PUP look good with Douglas who is in on the act running protection for the crims. God,  they don't learn to keep their mouth shut when they know the paper trail has caught up with them!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on May 23rd, 2014 at 4:41pm

Quote:
OLD NEWS read before, listened to before, rabied bullshit set up to make PUP look good with Douglas who is in on the act running protection for the crims. God,  they don't learn to keep their mouth shut when they know the paper trail has caught up with them!


Pretty soon, you'll run out of people who will respond to you.  This is real breaking news that Qld TV schmedia have not yet caught up with it.  It has SFA to do with PUP, so I'll ignore that garbage.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on May 23rd, 2014 at 4:51pm

Aussie wrote on May 23rd, 2014 at 4:41pm:

Quote:
OLD NEWS read before, listened to before, rabied bullshit set up to make PUP look good with Douglas who is in on the act running protection for the crims. God,  they don't learn to keep their mouth shut when they know the paper trail has caught up with them!


Pretty soon, you'll run out of people who will respond to you.  This is real breaking news that Qld TV schmedia have not yet caught up with it.  It has SFA to do with PUP, so I'll ignore that garbage.


This is real breaking news dated 5th May 2014, DER!

SFA to do with PUP leader in Qld speaking with Jones, DER!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on May 23rd, 2014 at 5:00pm

Quote:
23rd May 2014 2:32 PM
Updated: 3:57 PM



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jun 12th, 2014 at 4:41pm
Newmann has had the Police undertake his political bidding, he has neutered the Crime and Misconduct Commission (Qld's ICAC) with one of his muppets one Ken Levey (sp) heading it now, and today's development ~ he now owns the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

Carmody has had a meteoric ride to that lofty place.  He has leap frogged dozens of District and Supreme Court Judges with much greater experience than he.  He was Newmann's especially appointed Chief Magistrate who was blatantly politically supportive of Newmann's VLAD legislation.

He now has his arse well and truly covered, having direct political influence over the Police, the Corruption Watchdog, and now the Boss of the highest Court in Queensland.

Disgraceful.

Click here.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jun 12th, 2014 at 4:46pm
Wonder who will handle the various legal actions taken by Palmer against the Government.  If Carmody takes those actions under his wing, there will be an outcry ~ but no matter which Judge Carmody allocates to hear them (as he can now as Chief Justice,) there will be the unbearable odour of bias.

Absolutely unbelievable!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jun 12th, 2014 at 5:16pm
This is why one political party should never have complete control. It breeds corruption.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jun 12th, 2014 at 6:11pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 12th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
This is why one political party should never have complete control. It breeds corruption.

Indeed ... Queensland's electoral system is a disgrace and needs an overhaul.

Mixed Member Proportional seems to be the way to go. Unicameral and proportional. The only way one party can get a majority is to win a majority of the primary vote.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Jun 12th, 2014 at 10:03pm

Bam wrote on Jun 12th, 2014 at 6:11pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 12th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
This is why one political party should never have complete control. It breeds corruption.

Indeed ... Queensland's electoral system is a disgrace and needs an overhaul.

Mixed Member Proportional seems to be the way to go. Unicameral and proportional. The only way one party can get a majority is to win a majority of the primary vote.


Agreed.  Does not a Member stand far all and speak for their Electorate! 

By such they should all be elected by all inclusive of electorate spoken for!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Heartless Felon on Jun 13th, 2014 at 7:02am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 12th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
This is why one political party should never have complete control. It breeds corruption.


??

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jun 13th, 2014 at 9:22am

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 7:02am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 12th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
This is why one political party should never have complete control. It breeds corruption.

??

Bjelke-Petersen. Premier of one of the most corrupt governments this country has ever seen.

And now the Newman government is trashing the doctrine of the separation of powers. His government has given Ministers the power to impose prison sentences and shut down corruption investigations. This is conduct that should raise alarm bells on corruption. I'm not asserting that the Newman government is necessarily corrupt, but they are putting in place an environment that would allow corruption to thrive.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Jun 13th, 2014 at 10:36am

Bam wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 9:22am:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 7:02am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 12th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
This is why one political party should never have complete control. It breeds corruption.

??

Bjelke-Petersen. Premier of one of the most corrupt governments this country has ever seen.

And now the Newman government is trashing the doctrine of the separation of powers. His government has given Ministers the power to impose prison sentences and shut down corruption investigations. This is conduct that should raise alarm bells on corruption. I'm not asserting that the Newman government is necessarily corrupt, but they are putting in place an environment that would allow corruption to thrive.


Letterhead records leave no doubt Campbell Newman is the centre force behind corruption far exceeding that of Joh.  The investigations are done, the hearings have taken place, the recommendation criminal charges be heard in the Magistrates Court cannot proceed as Campbell's Minister at his own personal hand has instructed the Court they not have permission to hear the criminal charges. Central of which name Treasury Registrar Helen Cootten criminally obtaining money under criminal threat and passing the proceeds to Campbell Newman.

Any guesses why none of the named in Facebook bring a  action in retaliation!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Heartless Felon on Jun 13th, 2014 at 10:37am

Bam wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 9:22am:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 7:02am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 12th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
This is why one political party should never have complete control. It breeds corruption.

??

Bjelke-Petersen. Premier of one of the most corrupt governments this country has ever seen.

And now the Newman government is trashing the doctrine of the separation of powers. His government has given Ministers the power to impose prison sentences and shut down corruption investigations. This is conduct that should raise alarm bells on corruption. I'm not asserting that the Newman government is necessarily corrupt, but they are putting in place an environment that would allow corruption to thrive.


So the labor party should never be elected in Qld again?
Not that they will be anytime soon...

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jun 13th, 2014 at 10:48am

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 10:37am:

Bam wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 9:22am:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 7:02am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 12th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
This is why one political party should never have complete control. It breeds corruption.

??

Bjelke-Petersen. Premier of one of the most corrupt governments this country has ever seen.

And now the Newman government is trashing the doctrine of the separation of powers. His government has given Ministers the power to impose prison sentences and shut down corruption investigations. This is conduct that should raise alarm bells on corruption. I'm not asserting that the Newman government is necessarily corrupt, but they are putting in place an environment that would allow corruption to thrive.


So the labor party should never be elected in Qld again?
Not that they will be anytime soon...


Silly. Bjelke was national party not labour

SOB

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Heartless Felon on Jun 13th, 2014 at 11:10am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 10:48am:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 10:37am:

Bam wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 9:22am:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 7:02am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 12th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
This is why one political party should never have complete control. It breeds corruption.

??

Bjelke-Petersen. Premier of one of the most corrupt governments this country has ever seen.

And now the Newman government is trashing the doctrine of the separation of powers. His government has given Ministers the power to impose prison sentences and shut down corruption investigations. This is conduct that should raise alarm bells on corruption. I'm not asserting that the Newman government is necessarily corrupt, but they are putting in place an environment that would allow corruption to thrive.


So the labor party should never be elected in Qld again?
Not that they will be anytime soon...


Silly. Bjelke was national party not labour

SOB


Look at the highlighted bit, Borgy. It means ANY political party.

Now have a sit down; you've extended yourself enough for one day...

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jun 13th, 2014 at 5:30pm
This link includes the audio of an interview the incoming CJ of the Supreme Court of Queensland gave to the ABC today.  Has anyone ever heard a person about to occupy the most senior position of a State's Supreme Court blow their own trumpet so hard? Leader, my arse.

Click here.

I can't find a link but some blokes I know have told me that the President of the Queensland Bar Association, has now resigned over this matter.

Edit:  Link to that now found.

Click here.

Shite!  I've just been given a tad more info which is very damaging to the Attorney General.  I'm waiting to be told by the bloke who gave it to me that I may reveal it publicly.  Bloody dynamite!


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jun 13th, 2014 at 5:51pm

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 10:37am:

Bam wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 9:22am:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 7:02am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 12th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
This is why one political party should never have complete control. It breeds corruption.

??

Bjelke-Petersen. Premier of one of the most corrupt governments this country has ever seen.

And now the Newman government is trashing the doctrine of the separation of powers. His government has given Ministers the power to impose prison sentences and shut down corruption investigations. This is conduct that should raise alarm bells on corruption. I'm not asserting that the Newman government is necessarily corrupt, but they are putting in place an environment that would allow corruption to thrive.


So the labor party should never be elected in Qld again?
Not that they will be anytime soon...

Probably not the next election but they will have significant gains, I'm predicting that Labor will gain about 22 seats including Newman's seat of Ashgrove.

Ask this again in four years when the following Queensland state election is due.

When Labor eventually get back in (my guess is 2018), they will reopen many of the investigations that Newman's government shut down. Then the sht will hit the fan for the LNP.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Heartless Felon on Jun 14th, 2014 at 5:34am

Bam wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 5:51pm:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 10:37am:

Bam wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 9:22am:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 7:02am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 12th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
[highlight]This is why one political party should never have complete control. It breeds corruption.[/highlight]

??

Bjelke-Petersen. Premier of one of the most corrupt governments this country has ever seen.

And now the Newman government is trashing the doctrine of the separation of powers. His government has given Ministers the power to impose prison sentences and shut down corruption investigations. This is conduct that should raise alarm bells on corruption. I'm not asserting that the Newman government is necessarily corrupt, but they are putting in place an environment that would allow corruption to thrive.


So the labor party should never be elected in Qld again?
Not that they will be anytime soon...

Probably not the next election but they will have significant gains, I'm predicting that Labor will gain about 22 seats including Newman's seat of Ashgrove.

Ask this again in four years when the following Queensland state election is due.

When Labor eventually get back in (my guess is 2018), they will reopen many of the investigations that Newman's government shut down. Then the sht will hit the fan for the LNP.


But according to Pansi, no single political party should have power. So with whom are labor going to share government?

(Good Heavens! I had left a particle dangling...)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jun 14th, 2014 at 11:37am

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 14th, 2014 at 5:34am:

Bam wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 5:51pm:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 10:37am:

Bam wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 9:22am:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 7:02am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 12th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
[highlight]This is why one political party should never have complete control. It breeds corruption.[/highlight]

??

Bjelke-Petersen. Premier of one of the most corrupt governments this country has ever seen.

And now the Newman government is trashing the doctrine of the separation of powers. His government has given Ministers the power to impose prison sentences and shut down corruption investigations. This is conduct that should raise alarm bells on corruption. I'm not asserting that the Newman government is necessarily corrupt, but they are putting in place an environment that would allow corruption to thrive.


So the labor party should never be elected in Qld again?
Not that they will be anytime soon...

Probably not the next election but they will have significant gains, I'm predicting that Labor will gain about 22 seats including Newman's seat of Ashgrove.

Ask this again in four years when the following Queensland state election is due.

When Labor eventually get back in (my guess is 2018), they will reopen many of the investigations that Newman's government shut down. Then the sht will hit the fan for the LNP.


But according to Pansi, no single political party should have power. So with whom are labor going to share government?

(Good Heavens! I had left a particle dangling...)

Under the current system of government in Queensland, they would govern on their own.

Queensland needs a Senate.

Here's how I would implement a Senate in Queensland -

Cut HoR seats from 89 to 88. Parliament has fixed terms.

The 44 seats closest to Parliament House in Brisbane (including Gold Coast) form one Senate electorate, the other 44 seats form the other. Each electorate has 22 Senators, giving 44 Senators total. Half the Senators are up for re-election at each election. Quota for election is 1/12. Optional preferential voting but 11 candidates must be chosen for the vote to be valid.

This would produce a Senate with some diversity of parties and having only half the Senators elected at each election provides stability.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Heartless Felon on Jun 14th, 2014 at 1:05pm

Bam wrote on Jun 14th, 2014 at 11:37am:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 14th, 2014 at 5:34am:

Bam wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 5:51pm:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 10:37am:

Bam wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 9:22am:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 7:02am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 12th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
[highlight]This is why one political party should never have complete control. It breeds corruption.[/highlight]

??

Bjelke-Petersen. Premier of one of the most corrupt governments this country has ever seen.

And now the Newman government is trashing the doctrine of the separation of powers. His government has given Ministers the power to impose prison sentences and shut down corruption investigations. This is conduct that should raise alarm bells on corruption. I'm not asserting that the Newman government is necessarily corrupt, but they are putting in place an environment that would allow corruption to thrive.


So the labor party should never be elected in Qld again?
Not that they will be anytime soon...

Probably not the next election but they will have significant gains, I'm predicting that Labor will gain about 22 seats including Newman's seat of Ashgrove.

Ask this again in four years when the following Queensland state election is due.

When Labor eventually get back in (my guess is 2018), they will reopen many of the investigations that Newman's government shut down. Then the sht will hit the fan for the LNP.


But according to Pansi, no single political party should have power. So with whom are labor going to share government?

(Good Heavens! I had left a particle dangling...)

Under the current system of government in Queensland, they would govern on their own.

Queensland needs a Senate.

Here's how I would implement a Senate in Queensland -

Cut HoR seats from 89 to 88. Parliament has fixed terms.

The 44 seats closest to Parliament House in Brisbane (including Gold Coast) form one Senate electorate, the other 44 seats form the other. Each electorate has 22 Senators, giving 44 Senators total. Half the Senators are up for re-election at each election. Quota for election is 1/12. Optional preferential voting but 11 candidates must be chosen for the vote to be valid.

This would produce a Senate with some diversity of parties and having only half the Senators elected at each election provides stability.


Not if Pansi has anything to do with it...

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jun 19th, 2014 at 6:33pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 5:30pm:
This link includes the audio of an interview the incoming CJ of the Supreme Court of Queensland gave to the ABC today.  Has anyone ever heard a person about to occupy the most senior position of a State's Supreme Court blow their own trumpet so hard? Leader, my arse.

Click here.

I can't find a link but some blokes I know have told me that the President of the Queensland Bar Association, has now resigned over this matter.

Edit:  Link to that now found.

Click here.

Shite!  I've just been given a tad more info which is very damaging to the Attorney General.  I'm waiting to be told by the bloke who gave it to me that I may reveal it publicly.  Bloody dynamite!


That info is out now in the public domain, and establishes very close links to naughty stuff involving breaching confidentiality by our boy Attorney General.

But there is more.  Latest developments include a sitting Member of the Supreme Court publicly stating Carmody ought refuse the appointment.

Today, a bloke of my vintage, Doug Drummond QC and retired Federal Court Judge, stepped in.

Click here, and note his comments concerning Palmer.

This is part of an email I sent to a very close QC friend of Drummond's some days ago:


Quote:
Imagine what, for example, Palmer's level of confidence in Justice will be if one of his actions against 'Government' is presided over by Carmody?  That has other ramifications extending to whether Carmody will hand pick which Judge deals with those matters.


Both Carmody and the boy AG must go, but I'm really after Carmody.  Fancy a bloke who has just been handed by Government the top Queensland Judicial appointment going to the schmedia and flogging how worthy he is at great length, and yet at the same time conceding he is not the brightest bulb in the Judicial chandelier.

Farce.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by labor are corrupt on Jun 19th, 2014 at 6:59pm
Gillard stacked the highest positions in the country to protect her own arse and their corrupt movement.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Knight Errant Sir Grappler on Jun 19th, 2014 at 7:54pm
"Well, don't you worry about that!  My inaugural Queenslund State of Disunion speech covers it.. you mark my words... simple really... the populous South East will fall to that upstart cockroach with his Hush Puppies Party, while all the good neo-fascists will have to chase their bikies in the rump north.. give those shovel leaners up there something to think about in between complaining about their money and work holding that South East together.... whining about the cost to them as if they are the only ones.. well.. we do things differently in Queenslund, you mark my words... and any time those Left wing parasites think they can run things better.. well, just you let them try and see how it goes, eh?

P'r'aps we need to split Queenslund into two or three states - let them stand on their own two feet and see.. just see.. how good they are then!  Yes.. yes.. good idea.. Queenslund, Johlund and North Whiners!  That's the ticket!"


In fond memory of Joh.. Joh, you mark my words! - a tremendous loss to the satirists of Australia..

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jun 19th, 2014 at 11:47pm

labor are corrupt wrote on Jun 19th, 2014 at 6:59pm:
Gillard stacked the highest positions in the country to protect her own arse and their corrupt movement.

Rubbish.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Tony on Jun 20th, 2014 at 5:24am

Bam wrote on Jun 19th, 2014 at 11:47pm:

labor are corrupt wrote on Jun 19th, 2014 at 6:59pm:
Gillard stacked the highest positions in the country to protect her own arse and their corrupt movement.

Rubbish.

Gotta love all the details loc gave.

As if Gillard “doing it” excuses The Can’t doing it! Bah!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jun 20th, 2014 at 8:02am
Congratulations Getup members. Another win for the reef.

GetUp members launched a social media storm on Tuesday night, where thousands contacted the bank through Facebook and Twitter. Hours later, the Bank wrote to GetUp and confirmed it would not be financing Adani's huge expansion on the Reef coastline.

This is great news - the Royal Bank of Scotland now joins Deutsche Bank, HSBC and Credit Agricole as major investment banks to publicly walk away from funding Abbot Point. Adani still needs to find billions of dollars to proceed, and every major bank that pulls out represents another blow in its quest to exploit our Reef for profit.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Jun 20th, 2014 at 9:38am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 20th, 2014 at 8:02am:
Congratulations Getup members. Another win for the reef.

GetUp members launched a social media storm on Tuesday night, where thousands contacted the bank through Facebook and Twitter. Hours later, the Bank wrote to GetUp and confirmed it would not be financing Adani's huge expansion on the Reef coastline.

This is great news - the Royal Bank of Scotland now joins Deutsche Bank, HSBC and Credit Agricole as major investment banks to publicly walk away from funding Abbot Point. Adani still needs to find billions of dollars to proceed, and every major bank that pulls out represents another blow in its quest to exploit our Reef for profit.



Yes,  give credit where credit is due!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 4:07pm
Queensland LNP donor Karreman Quarries escapes prosecution for illegal quarrying after Deputy Premier orders legislation change (see link for full article)

Quote:
A big donor to the ruling Liberal National Party in Queensland has escaped prosecution for illegal quarrying because of a last-minute change to legislation ordered by the state's Deputy Premier.

Karreman Quarries was this month facing legal action by the Department of Natural Resources and Mines over unlawful extraction of sand and gravel from the Upper Brisbane River when an amendment, slipped unnoticed into a package of reforms to the Water Act, retrospectively legalised its activities.

The change was not mentioned in the bill that preceded the vote on the amendments and even the Labor Opposition knew nothing about it.

ABC's 7.30 has learned the amendment was drafted after a meeting in April called at short notice by Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney at which the Karreman case was raised. The meeting was attended by Natural Resources Minister Andrew Cripps and senior bureaucrats.

The change to the law means officials are no longer able to prosecute the company. It also means the company's activities at Harlin, worth more than $15 million annually, can continue unimpeded for another five years.

The amendment specifies that the type of extraction of quarry material for which Karreman Quarries was under investigation "is lawful, and is taken to have always been lawful".

Emails to farmers at Harlin from the Department of Natural Resources and Mines, seen by the ABC, show that officials had obtained a stop notice against Karreman and were gearing up for legal action to enforce it when the surprise amendment was made to the law.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 4:09pm
Now we know why the Federal Coalition won't consider a Federal body with the powers of ICAC.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 4:27pm

Bam wrote on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 4:07pm:
Queensland LNP donor Karreman Quarries escapes prosecution for illegal quarrying after Deputy Premier orders legislation change (see link for full article)

Quote:
A big donor to the ruling Liberal National Party in Queensland has escaped prosecution for illegal quarrying because of a last-minute change to legislation ordered by the state's Deputy Premier.

Karreman Quarries was this month facing legal action by the Department of Natural Resources and Mines over unlawful extraction of sand and gravel from the Upper Brisbane River when an amendment, slipped unnoticed into a package of reforms to the Water Act, retrospectively legalised its activities.

The change was not mentioned in the bill that preceded the vote on the amendments and even the Labor Opposition knew nothing about it.

ABC's 7.30 has learned the amendment was drafted after a meeting in April called at short notice by Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney at which the Karreman case was raised. The meeting was attended by Natural Resources Minister Andrew Cripps and senior bureaucrats.

The change to the law means officials are no longer able to prosecute the company. It also means the company's activities at Harlin, worth more than $15 million annually, can continue unimpeded for another five years.

The amendment specifies that the type of extraction of quarry material for which Karreman Quarries was under investigation "is lawful, and is taken to have always been lawful".

Emails to farmers at Harlin from the Department of Natural Resources and Mines, seen by the ABC, show that officials had obtained a stop notice against Karreman and were gearing up for legal action to enforce it when the surprise amendment was made to the law.



BULLSHIT No law can be changed without a bill for such to occur. Now after being exposed in support, labour lies about not knowing are pathetic!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 4:32pm

DaS Energy wrote on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 4:27pm:

Bam wrote on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 4:07pm:
Queensland LNP donor Karreman Quarries escapes prosecution for illegal quarrying after Deputy Premier orders legislation change (see link for full article)

Quote:
A big donor to the ruling Liberal National Party in Queensland has escaped prosecution for illegal quarrying because of a last-minute change to legislation ordered by the state's Deputy Premier.

Karreman Quarries was this month facing legal action by the Department of Natural Resources and Mines over unlawful extraction of sand and gravel from the Upper Brisbane River when an amendment, slipped unnoticed into a package of reforms to the Water Act, retrospectively legalised its activities.

The change was not mentioned in the bill that preceded the vote on the amendments and even the Labor Opposition knew nothing about it.

ABC's 7.30 has learned the amendment was drafted after a meeting in April called at short notice by Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney at which the Karreman case was raised. The meeting was attended by Natural Resources Minister Andrew Cripps and senior bureaucrats.

The change to the law means officials are no longer able to prosecute the company. It also means the company's activities at Harlin, worth more than $15 million annually, can continue unimpeded for another five years.

The amendment specifies that the type of extraction of quarry material for which Karreman Quarries was under investigation "is lawful, and is taken to have always been lawful".

Emails to farmers at Harlin from the Department of Natural Resources and Mines, seen by the ABC, show that officials had obtained a stop notice against Karreman and were gearing up for legal action to enforce it when the surprise amendment was made to the law.



BULLSHIT No law can be changed without a bill for such to occur. Now after being exposed in support, labour lies about not knowing are pathetic!

Given that Labor hasn't got the numbers to block a bill, whether they knew or not is largely irrelevant. It is the conduct of the Queensland Government that should be scrutinised here, not minor irrelevancies involving the Opposition.

Something is rotten in the state of Queensland.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 5:03pm

Bam wrote on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 4:32pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 4:27pm:

Bam wrote on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 4:07pm:
Queensland LNP donor Karreman Quarries escapes prosecution for illegal quarrying after Deputy Premier orders legislation change (see link for full article)

Quote:
A big donor to the ruling Liberal National Party in Queensland has escaped prosecution for illegal quarrying because of a last-minute change to legislation ordered by the state's Deputy Premier.

Karreman Quarries was this month facing legal action by the Department of Natural Resources and Mines over unlawful extraction of sand and gravel from the Upper Brisbane River when an amendment, slipped unnoticed into a package of reforms to the Water Act, retrospectively legalised its activities.

The change was not mentioned in the bill that preceded the vote on the amendments and even the Labor Opposition knew nothing about it.

ABC's 7.30 has learned the amendment was drafted after a meeting in April called at short notice by Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney at which the Karreman case was raised. The meeting was attended by Natural Resources Minister Andrew Cripps and senior bureaucrats.

The change to the law means officials are no longer able to prosecute the company. It also means the company's activities at Harlin, worth more than $15 million annually, can continue unimpeded for another five years.

The amendment specifies that the type of extraction of quarry material for which Karreman Quarries was under investigation "is lawful, and is taken to have always been lawful".

Emails to farmers at Harlin from the Department of Natural Resources and Mines, seen by the ABC, show that officials had obtained a stop notice against Karreman and were gearing up for legal action to enforce it when the surprise amendment was made to the law.



BULLSHIT No law can be changed without a bill for such to occur. Now after being exposed in support, labour lies about not knowing are pathetic!

Given that Labor hasn't got the numbers to block a bill, whether they knew or not is largely irrelevant. It is the conduct of the Queensland Government that should be scrutinised here, not minor irrelevancies involving the Opposition.

Something is rotten in the state of Queensland.


So rotten its bursting out of containment!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 5:05pm

Bam wrote on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 4:09pm:
Now we know why the Federal Coalition won't consider a Federal body with the powers of ICAC.


Its the same reason Qld Coalition wont consider a State body with the powers of ICAC.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jun 27th, 2014 at 7:42pm
The current Chief Justice bids farewell to become the State's GG.  This bloke had utmost respect until days before his farewell of today (not attended by the incoming and pilloried Carmody...........) ~ he lost some lustre when he entered the political debate about his replacement Carmody. 

The disparity is so stark.  Paul de Jersey, been a Supreme Court Judge since his mid 30s.....then Chief Justice of this State's Supreme Court to be replaced by a bloody pissant Magistrate.  Unbelievable.

Click here.

The Premier's Man in charge of the Supreme Court, the Premier's man in charge of the CMC (our ICAC  equivalent) and the Premier's Man in charge of the Cops.

Charming.

Newmann is history in the making and I do hope whatever the make-up of the incoming Government is ~ they sack Carmody, Levey and Atkinson for being part of the Newmann grand scheme of things.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jun 29th, 2014 at 1:44pm
Queensland corruption fighter Tony Fitzgerald says Newman Government has "flaunted its disdain for democracy and good governance"

Quote:
Former Queensland corruption fighter Tony Fitzgerald has launched another scathing attack against the Newman Government.

Mr Fitzgerald says constant requests for interviews about politics in Queensland have forced him to make a statement.

The former corruption fighter says the Newman Government is using its majority to dominate debate both inside and outside Parliament.

Mr Fitzgerald also hit out at News Corporation Australia, accusing them of publishing biased reports favouring the Liberal National Party (LNP).

[quote]"Queensland is extremely vulnerable to the misuse and abuse of power.

"There are almost no constitutional limits on the power of the State's single house of parliament.

"Unless there is an effective parliamentary opposition to advocate alternative policies, criticise government errors, denounce excesses of power and reflect, inform and influence public opinion, the checks and balances needed for democracy are entirely missing."

— Tony Fitzgerald


Mr Fitzgerald said it would be unlikely he would comment on the matter further, citing his wish for anonymity and privacy in retirement.

In the statement, he said the State Government has "flaunted its disdain for democracy and good governance" by attacking the independence of the judiciary and the state's Crime and Misconduct Commission (CMC).

Premier Campbell Newman has been contacted for comment.

Last month, Mr Fitzgerald condemned the appointment of Tim Carmody as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, raising concerns about Judge Carmody's experience and questioning whether he has been too supportive of government policies.

Judge Carmody, 58, served as counsel assisting the Fitzgerald Inquiry into corruption in the late 1980s.

"People whose ambition exceeds their ability aren't all that unusual," Mr Fitzgerald said following the appointment.

"However, it's deeply troubling that the megalomaniacs currently holding power in Queensland are prepared to damage even fundamental institutions like the Supreme Court and cast doubt on fundamental principles like the independence of the judiciary."

Mr Fitzgerald also openly criticised changes to the CMC that allow the Government to appoint a chairperson without bipartisan approval.

"This debacle will adversely affect Queenslanders and ultimately end in tears for the Government, which has staked our future and its future on the whims of a few inexperienced, arrogant fools who seem unaware of the extent of their own ignorance," Mr Fitzgerald wrote in an email to the ABC in May.

Mr Fitzgerald ended his latest statement by saying Queenslanders have to decide at the next election which party will do the least long-term damage to the state.[/quote]

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jun 30th, 2014 at 7:50am

Bam wrote on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 4:32pm:
Something is rotten in the state of Queensland.


We know.

LNP trails Labor in Qld: Newspoll


The LNP is trailing Labor by 49 per cent to 51 per cent, on a two-party preferred basis. That's a swing against the government of almost 14 percentage points since the election just over two years ago.

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/lnp-now-trails-labor-in-qld-newspoll/story-e6frfku9-1229671612660


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Jun 30th, 2014 at 7:54am
The quarrying was an oversight in the legislation which needed to be backdated.
No biggie,

campbells biggest problem is he is quite disliked and party headquarters have him in the seat of ashgrove which is full of inner city trendies, soy drinkers and associated left wing faggots , so I am predicting he wont even win his seat.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jun 30th, 2014 at 7:59am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 7:54am:
The quarrying was an oversight in the legislation which needed to be backdated.
No biggie,

campbells biggest problem is he is quite disliked and party headquarters have him in the seat of ashgrove which is full of inner city trendies, soy drinkers and associated left wing faggots , so I am predicting he wont even win his seat.



Well you are not exactly Nostradamus on that because most of the electorate of Ashgrove will agree with you. Clive Palmer is making jokes about Newman losing his own seat.....oh! how I love a good joke ha! ha!

The only thing Newman has got in his favour is if ballot boxes go missing, but Clive will be closely watching that.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:06am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 7:54am:
The quarrying was an oversight in the legislation which needed to be backdated.
No biggie,

campbells biggest problem is he is quite disliked and party headquarters have him in the seat of ashgrove which is full of inner city trendies, soy drinkers and associated left wing faggots , so I am predicting he wont even win his seat.


Interesting, it will be inner city trendies, soy drinkers and associated left wing faggots who reinstate democracy and law back into Qld Government!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:37am

DaS Energy wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:06am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 7:54am:
The quarrying was an oversight in the legislation which needed to be backdated.
No biggie,

campbells biggest problem is he is quite disliked and party headquarters have him in the seat of ashgrove which is full of inner city trendies, soy drinkers and associated left wing faggots , so I am predicting he wont even win his seat.


Interesting, it will be inner city trendies, soy drinkers and associated left wing faggots who reinstate democracy and law back into Qld Government!


Unfortunately, one must admit that the inner city, creature - comfort seeking, intellectual do-gooder and hand wringer is a rapidly growing demographic.

As rural QLD becomes a sparse wasteland, there simply aren't the numbers of hard working folk who "produce' something for a living.

This is democracy in action.

The smashed avacado on gluten free bread, barista loving, blob of pale soft weak purile obese slothful leftard life form WILL become the dominant force.

Their vision for rural Australia seems to be one massive chinese and Indonesian owned and managed agribusiness with dotted Coal Seam gas stations. they see everyone joining them in inner city air conditioned  nirvana.

trouble is, they don't earn any foreign exchange dollars :D :D :D :D.

I'm not sure what their business plan is....

borrow money from our new Asian mining and agricultural overlords and sell the grandkids into slavery.
This would seem about right for generation baby boomer (the soft weak whiney sooky bunch that they are)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jul 6th, 2014 at 8:06am
We just don't like Mr Newman or his Nazi ways. People would rather vote for a woman whose name they cannot say lol!!!

Campbell Newman’s Government slammed in ReachTEL poll


PREMIER Campbell Newman is battling to save his political life, with a growing number of Queenslanders turning against his fight-prone administration.

A ReachTEL poll has revealed up to 40 of the Newman Government’s 73 MPs face being turfed out of office at next year’s election, including Mr Newman from his inner-city seat of Ashgrove.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/campbell-newmans-government-slammed-in-reachtel-poll/story-fnihsrf2-1229679060625?nk=679f95692fa1ba5aa3ddb63dcff12fc7#itm=newscomau%7Chome%7Cnca-homepage-network-most-popular-masthead%7C1%7Chow-many-newman-mps-are-on-the-line%7Chomepage%7Chomepage&itmt=1404658792428

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jul 6th, 2014 at 9:20am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 8:06am:
We just don't like Mr Newman or his Nazi ways. People would rather vote for a woman whose name they cannot say lol!!!

Campbell Newman’s Government slammed in ReachTEL poll


PREMIER Campbell Newman is battling to save his political life, with a growing number of Queenslanders turning against his fight-prone administration.

A ReachTEL poll has revealed up to 40 of the Newman Government’s 73 MPs face being turfed out of office at next year’s election, including Mr Newman from his inner-city seat of Ashgrove.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/campbell-newmans-government-slammed-in-reachtel-poll/story-fnihsrf2-1229679060625?nk=679f95692fa1ba5aa3ddb63dcff12fc7#itm=newscomau%7Chome%7Cnca-homepage-network-most-popular-masthead%7C1%7Chow-many-newman-mps-are-on-the-line%7Chomepage%7Chomepage&itmt=1404658792428


;D ;D ;D ;D

my, my  ... how the tables have turned, and all in such a short period of time.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jul 6th, 2014 at 10:34am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 8:06am:
We just don't like Mr Newman or his Nazi ways. People would rather vote for a woman whose name they cannot say lol!!!

Campbell Newman’s Government slammed in ReachTEL poll


PREMIER Campbell Newman is battling to save his political life, with a growing number of Queenslanders turning against his fight-prone administration.

A ReachTEL poll has revealed up to 40 of the Newman Government’s 73 MPs face being turfed out of office at next year’s election, including Mr Newman from his inner-city seat of Ashgrove.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/campbell-newmans-government-slammed-in-reachtel-poll/story-fnihsrf2-1229679060625?nk=679f95692fa1ba5aa3ddb63dcff12fc7#itm=newscomau%7Chome%7Cnca-homepage-network-most-popular-masthead%7C1%7Chow-many-newman-mps-are-on-the-line%7Chomepage%7Chomepage&itmt=1404658792428

LNP are ahead 51-49 on 2PP. However, the 2PP is largely fictitious due to these factors (1) PUP; (2) Optional Preferential Voting.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jul 17th, 2014 at 7:15pm
Stafford by election this week-end.  Held by the LNP.  Their bloke resigned after a fight he could never win with Newmann.  This seat will go to the ALP with about a 14% swing against Newmann.......my guess.  (No PUP candidate.)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jul 18th, 2014 at 10:38pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 17th, 2014 at 7:15pm:
Stafford by election this week-end.  Held by the LNP.  Their bloke resigned after a fight he could never win with Newmann.  This seat will go to the ALP with about a 14% swing against Newmann.......my guess.  (No PUP candidate.)

Antony Green's profile on the Stafford by-election.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by life_goes_on on Jul 19th, 2014 at 7:13am
Anybody hear the LNP candidate for Stafford on the radio yesterday?

Either they f-cked up with the pre-selection or they just put in some goose as a token candidate as they realised they couldn't win it.

A day out and he's managed to piss off half of the sitting LNP MPs.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 19th, 2014 at 9:14am
QLD... the home of corruption and incompetence. always has been. always will be. I only wish they would keep their filth in their own state.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jul 19th, 2014 at 8:21pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 17th, 2014 at 7:15pm:
Stafford by election this week-end.  Held by the LNP.  Their bloke resigned after a fight he could never win with Newmann.  This seat will go to the ALP with about a 14% swing against Newmann.......my guess.  (No PUP candidate.)


I was wrong.  The swing is 20%.  ALP romp in.

Link.


Quote:
     #      %      Swing      2PP (proj.)      Swing
Bob Andersen (Liberal National)      6,900      32.9%      -18.6%      36.7%      -20.3%
Sally-Anne Vincent (Family First)      853      4.1%                  
Anne Boccabella (Greens)      2,641      12.6%      +2.1%            
Anthony Lynham (Labor)      10,561      50.4%      +17.1%      63.3%      +20.3%


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jul 19th, 2014 at 9:24pm
Poll Bludger is also reporting about a 20% swing.

Part of that swing is a protest vote, and some of that swing is the political spectrum returning to the centre.

The protest vote precludes a meaningful extrapolation of this result to the next state election. However, it is clear that there is significant dissatisfaction with the Newman government, just as there was with the Redcliffe by-election.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jul 19th, 2014 at 9:26pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2014 at 8:21pm:
I was wrong.  The swing is 20%.  ALP romp in.


geez, if that trend were continued it will be the libs in a mimi van after the next election

only a lib can piss off so many people in such a short time span.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jul 19th, 2014 at 10:21pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 19th, 2014 at 9:26pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2014 at 8:21pm:
I was wrong.  The swing is 20%.  ALP romp in.


geez, if that trend were continued it will be the libs in a mimi van after the next election

only a lib can piss off so many people in such a short time span.

Probably a few more than that, but it would put seats rated as safe and very safe in play.

I don't expect it would really be that bad for the LNP at the next state election but the swing is on.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jul 19th, 2014 at 10:28pm

Bam wrote on Jul 19th, 2014 at 10:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 19th, 2014 at 9:26pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2014 at 8:21pm:
I was wrong.  The swing is 20%.  ALP romp in.


geez, if that trend were continued it will be the libs in a mimi van after the next election

only a lib can piss off so many people in such a short time span.

Probably a few more than that, but it would put seats rated as safe and very safe in play.

I don't expect it would really be that bad for the LNP at the next state election but the swing is on.


if he starts his 'privatisation' crap it could very likely get worse for them ... at the moment thats still in very early stages and people aren't worried about it, yet!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jul 20th, 2014 at 10:06pm
Ya see....this is why this silly little twerp is driving the LNP into the depths of destruction.

Link.

I doubt there is anyone out here in voter land who is aware of any drastic decision taken by the LNP to address whatever mess they reckon they were left with by the ALP.  All we have had shoved in our faces is:

1.  Sack 14000 public servants.
2.  Create a War with bikies.  Make innocents guilty by mere association.
3.  Create a War with Doctors.
4.  Give the Attorney General personal power to keep people in jail.
5.  Destroy the Crime and Misconduct Commission.
6.  Politicise the Cops.
7.  Spend a fortune on getting feedback from Queenslanders and then ignore what they say.
8.  Marginalise those within your own Parliamentary cohort, so much so they resign from the LNP and join PUP or just outright resign.....and cause a by-election where the outcome is an annihilation of the LNP vote.

He is an idiot.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Heartless Felon on Jul 21st, 2014 at 7:07am

What's the price on the ALP at the next election?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jul 21st, 2014 at 11:38am

Aussie wrote on Jul 20th, 2014 at 10:06pm:
7.  Spend a fortune on getting feedback from Queenslanders and then ignore what they say.

This silliness from the Government makes it difficult to refute Ms Palaszczuk's words:

Quote:
People don't want an arrogant, out-of-touch Government. They want a Government that listens, that cares about them. This is a Premier who is taking Queensland backwards ... he's not just not listening to people here in Stafford, he's not listening to Queenslanders right across the state.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jul 21st, 2014 at 11:46am

John Smith wrote on Jul 19th, 2014 at 10:28pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 19th, 2014 at 10:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 19th, 2014 at 9:26pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2014 at 8:21pm:
I was wrong.  The swing is 20%.  ALP romp in.


geez, if that trend were continued it will be the libs in a mimi van after the next election

only a lib can piss off so many people in such a short time span.

Probably a few more than that, but it would put seats rated as safe and very safe in play.

I don't expect it would really be that bad for the LNP at the next state election but the swing is on.


if he starts his 'privatisation' crap it could very likely get worse for them ... at the moment thats still in very early stages and people aren't worried about it, yet!

Privatisation is a dirty word with voters. All it does is convert a not-for-profit asset owned by everyone into a for-profit corporation owned by the privileged few. Taking assets out of the hands of elected governments and putting them into the hands of unelected boards does nothing to keep prices down. Privatisation inevitably causes prices to rise and/or the quality of service to decline.

It is no coincidence that the privatisation fetish has caused the retail price of electricity to skyrocket. The use of renewables and the carbon price is only a small part of the price rise. Most of it is poles and wires, with privatised utilities spending up big on unnecessary infrastructure and then charging it to their customers.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Heartless Felon on Jul 21st, 2014 at 12:50pm
"People don't want an arrogant, out-of-touch Government. They want a Government that listens, that cares about them. This is a Premier who is taking Queensland backwards"

Are we still talking about Anna Bligh?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 5:44pm
It seems that Newman is to thick or to stupid to learn ...

now he's blaming the people of Queensland for simply not understanding why he does what he does

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-20/premier-campbell-newman-says-queenslanders-don27t-understand/5610010

With this sort of attitude I'd say Newmans demise in inevitable




Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 6:39pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 5:44pm:
It seems that Newman is to thick or to stupid to learn ...

now he's blaming the people of Queensland for simply not understanding why he does what he does

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-20/premier-campbell-newman-says-queenslanders-don27t-understand/5610010

With this sort of attitude I'd say Newmans demise in inevitable



Quote:
Nothing we have been doing has been for any other reason than to make this a better state. -- Newman

Dismantling the CMC?
Giving Ministers the right to put people in jail without judicial oversight?
Jobs for the boys on the LNP gravy train?

Did you include these in the "better state", Mr Newman?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 6:44pm

Bam wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 6:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 5:44pm:
It seems that Newman is to thick or to stupid to learn ...

now he's blaming the people of Queensland for simply not understanding why he does what he does

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-20/premier-campbell-newman-says-queenslanders-don27t-understand/5610010

With this sort of attitude I'd say Newmans demise in inevitable



Quote:
Nothing we have been doing has been for any other reason than to make this a better state. -- Newman

Dismantling the CMC?
Giving Ministers the right to put people in jail without judicial oversight?
Jobs for the boys on the LNP gravy train?

Did you include these in the "better state", Mr Newman?


Left out having a Minister with the power to tell the Courts when they do have and not have permission to hear criminal charges.

This little saviour being only applied to Newman's criminal mates.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 6:48pm

DaS Energy wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 6:44pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 6:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 5:44pm:
It seems that Newman is to thick or to stupid to learn ...

now he's blaming the people of Queensland for simply not understanding why he does what he does

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-20/premier-campbell-newman-says-queenslanders-don27t-understand/5610010

With this sort of attitude I'd say Newmans demise in inevitable



Quote:
Nothing we have been doing has been for any other reason than to make this a better state. -- Newman

Dismantling the CMC?
Giving Ministers the right to put people in jail without judicial oversight?
Jobs for the boys on the LNP gravy train?

Did you include these in the "better state", Mr Newman?


Left out having a Minister with the power to tell the Courts when they do have and not have permission to hear criminal charges.

This little saviour being only applied to Newman's criminal mates.

I sort of lumped that in with the general remarks about judicial oversight, but you are right to mention that it goes both ways. It's pretty bad when the government of Queensland is taking the doctrine of separation of powers and beating it senseless in dark alleys away from the glare of public scrutiny.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 9:25pm

Bam wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 6:48pm:
It's pretty bad when the government of Queensland


yep, thats the best way to describe Newman ... bad.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Jul 24th, 2014 at 12:13am

Bam wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 6:48pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 6:44pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 6:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 5:44pm:
It seems that Newman is to thick or to stupid to learn ...

now he's blaming the people of Queensland for simply not understanding why he does what he does

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-20/premier-campbell-newman-says-queenslanders-don27t-understand/5610010

With this sort of attitude I'd say Newmans demise in inevitable



Quote:
Nothing we have been doing has been for any other reason than to make this a better state. -- Newman

Dismantling the CMC?
Giving Ministers the right to put people in jail without judicial oversight?
Jobs for the boys on the LNP gravy train?

Did you include these in the "better state", Mr Newman?


Left out having a Minister with the power to tell the Courts when they do have and not have permission to hear criminal charges.

This little saviour being only applied to Newman's criminal mates.

I sort of lumped that in with the general remarks about judicial oversight, but you are right to mention that it goes both ways. It's pretty bad when the government of Queensland is taking the doctrine of separation of powers and beating it senseless in dark alleys away from the glare of public scrutiny.


Facebook, and PUP, doesn't Clive love me!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Knight Errant Sir Grappler on Jul 24th, 2014 at 12:26am
Queensland is a state of disrepair - just behind Australia the Once-Beautiful.

Once our people were warriors, Jake - people cleared the Outback and heroes like Bernard O'Reilly, who cleared a resort and also tracked and discovered the survivors from a plane crash, were revered as true men.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_O%27Reilly_%28author%29


Our people once were heroes.. now we're nothing!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Jul 24th, 2014 at 12:34am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 24th, 2014 at 12:26am:
Queensland is a state of disrepair - just behind Australia the Once-Beautiful.

Once our people were warriors, Jake - people cleared the Outback and heroes like Bernard O'Reilly, who cleared a resort and also tracked and discovered the survivors from a plane crash, were revered as true men.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_O%27Reilly_%28author%29


Our people once were heroes.. now we're nothing!


Abbott the goat leading sheep!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Knight Errant Sir Grappler on Jul 24th, 2014 at 12:36am
Queensland is a stateless State, lost in its own wilderness.

The only solution for poor old long-suffering Queensland is that we invade.. for their own good, sort of like Israel invading Gaza to sort out their problems there..

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jul 31st, 2014 at 2:44pm
Queensland Supreme Courts Judges continue to revolt against Newmann's Chief Justice appointee.  This is from todays Courier Mail:


Quote:
JUDGES of the Supreme Court are at war with their boss and have vowed to criticise Chief Justice Tim Carmody until he quits.

Court of Appeal Justice John Muir has been backed by senior Supreme Court judges including David Boddice, Philip McMurdo and Martin Daubney in an extraordinary revolt against Justice Carmody.

The Courier-Mail has learned the push against Justice Carmody will continue relentlessly with his opponents determined he must quit.

“It should be apparent to everyone, in particular the new Chief Justice and the Attorney-General, that no one (on the Supreme Court bench) will ever accept Carmody has the credentials or skills required (to do the job),” a senior judicial officer said.

“The only way this situation can be remedied is if (Justice Carmody) resigns and a more experienced (judge is) appointed.”

Justice Carmody is 58 and has 12 years left in the job before he is required to retire.

The rebellion has seen some Supreme Court judges even refuse to acknowledge Justice Carmody when they see him. It is understood the Supreme Court judges have been quietly nudging retiring or retired judges to take public shots at Justice Carmody.


What a bloody nightmare!  All Newmann's doing with the help of his Boy Wonder Attorney General.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Jul 31st, 2014 at 4:41pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 2:44pm:
Queensland Supreme Courts Judges continue to revolt against Newmann's Chief Justice appointee.  This is from todays Courier Mail:


Quote:
JUDGES of the Supreme Court are at war with their boss and have vowed to criticise Chief Justice Tim Carmody until he quits.

Court of Appeal Justice John Muir has been backed by senior Supreme Court judges including David Boddice, Philip McMurdo and Martin Daubney in an extraordinary revolt against Justice Carmody.

The Courier-Mail has learned the push against Justice Carmody will continue relentlessly with his opponents determined he must quit.

“It should be apparent to everyone, in particular the new Chief Justice and the Attorney-General, that no one (on the Supreme Court bench) will ever accept Carmody has the credentials or skills required (to do the job),” a senior judicial officer said.

“The only way this situation can be remedied is if (Justice Carmody) resigns and a more experienced (judge is) appointed.”

Justice Carmody is 58 and has 12 years left in the job before he is required to retire.

The rebellion has seen some Supreme Court judges even refuse to acknowledge Justice Carmody when they see him. It is understood the Supreme Court judges have been quietly nudging retiring or retired judges to take public shots at Justice Carmody.


What a bloody nightmare!  All Newmann's doing with the help of his Boy Wonder Attorney General.


Bit like when Joh made a copper a Judge!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jul 31st, 2014 at 4:57pm

DaS Energy wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 4:41pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 2:44pm:
Queensland Supreme Courts Judges continue to revolt against Newmann's Chief Justice appointee.  This is from todays Courier Mail:


Quote:
JUDGES of the Supreme Court are at war with their boss and have vowed to criticise Chief Justice Tim Carmody until he quits.

Court of Appeal Justice John Muir has been backed by senior Supreme Court judges including David Boddice, Philip McMurdo and Martin Daubney in an extraordinary revolt against Justice Carmody.

The Courier-Mail has learned the push against Justice Carmody will continue relentlessly with his opponents determined he must quit.

“It should be apparent to everyone, in particular the new Chief Justice and the Attorney-General, that no one (on the Supreme Court bench) will ever accept Carmody has the credentials or skills required (to do the job),” a senior judicial officer said.

“The only way this situation can be remedied is if (Justice Carmody) resigns and a more experienced (judge is) appointed.”

Justice Carmody is 58 and has 12 years left in the job before he is required to retire.

The rebellion has seen some Supreme Court judges even refuse to acknowledge Justice Carmody when they see him. It is understood the Supreme Court judges have been quietly nudging retiring or retired judges to take public shots at Justice Carmody.


What a bloody nightmare!  All Newmann's doing with the help of his Boy Wonder Attorney General.


Bit like when Joh made a copper a Judge!


That did not happen.  What you are probably referring to was that he plucked a nobody called Terry Lewis, a copper in western Queensland, and made him Police Commissioner.  The Fitzgerald Inquiry oversaw the particularly telling end to the corruption of Lewis.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Aug 1st, 2014 at 2:48pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 2:44pm:
Queensland Supreme Courts Judges continue to revolt against Newmann's Chief Justice appointee.  This is from todays Courier Mail:


Quote:
JUDGES of the Supreme Court are at war with their boss and have vowed to criticise Chief Justice Tim Carmody until he quits.

Court of Appeal Justice John Muir has been backed by senior Supreme Court judges including David Boddice, Philip McMurdo and Martin Daubney in an extraordinary revolt against Justice Carmody.

The Courier-Mail has learned the push against Justice Carmody will continue relentlessly with his opponents determined he must quit.

“It should be apparent to everyone, in particular the new Chief Justice and the Attorney-General, that no one (on the Supreme Court bench) will ever accept Carmody has the credentials or skills required (to do the job),” a senior judicial officer said.

“The only way this situation can be remedied is if (Justice Carmody) resigns and a more experienced (judge is) appointed.”

Justice Carmody is 58 and has 12 years left in the job before he is required to retire.

The rebellion has seen some Supreme Court judges even refuse to acknowledge Justice Carmody when they see him. It is understood the Supreme Court judges have been quietly nudging retiring or retired judges to take public shots at Justice Carmody.


What a bloody nightmare!  All Newmann's doing with the help of his Boy Wonder Attorney General.


And the Judiciary eating its own continues.  I don't blame them.  Newmann's incoming Chief Justice of the Supreme Court had his public ceremony today, and only one other Judge was there....a new bloke being sworn in as a Judge.  The existing Judges of the Supreme Court all boycotted the ceremony, to a wo/man.  This is all about Newmann promoting Carmody to the highest judicial office in this State from the crappy position of Chief Magistrate.  In taking that appointment, Carmody leap-frogged dozens of very highly qualified and experienced District and Supreme Court Judges.  No-one believes it to be any mere coincidence that prior to his elevation, Carmody was unusually vocal as  a Magistrate, lauding Newmann's garbage bikie legislation.

Newmann has politicised the CMC (ICAC equivalent), the Police Force and now the Supreme Court.

Link.

The profound significance of this boycott by every existing Supreme Court Judge cannot be underestimated or ignored.  It is unprecedented.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Aug 10th, 2014 at 6:15pm
So, Newmman has been down in the polls, and today clawed a small bit back according to Rechtel, it seems at the very insignificant expense of PUP.  And, also today, Newmman announces there will be a Report to be compiled on an increase in incidents of domestic violence over the last 12 months.

This is a pathetic political move to help him out in those polls.  Whatever money they are spending on this Report would be better allocated to the existing agencies dealing with the issue on a day to day, and hands on way.  But wait.....it gets better!

Who better (if you want votes) to appoint as the person charged with producing this Report than none other than a fantastic 'Uncle Tom' ~ Quinton Bryce, who has spent the last six+ years swanning around Canberra as GG hosting tea parties and handing out gongs which she did very well indeed.  Let's forget that she is a has been with zero relevant experience in the issue, or of preparing a Report.....and she, for goodness sake......is 71 years old!

What a bloody joke.

Link.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Aug 11th, 2014 at 2:07am

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 4:57pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 4:41pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 2:44pm:
Queensland Supreme Courts Judges continue to revolt against Newmann's Chief Justice appointee.  This is from todays Courier Mail:


Quote:
JUDGES of the Supreme Court are at war with their boss and have vowed to criticise Chief Justice Tim Carmody until he quits.

Court of Appeal Justice John Muir has been backed by senior Supreme Court judges including David Boddice, Philip McMurdo and Martin Daubney in an extraordinary revolt against Justice Carmody.

The Courier-Mail has learned the push against Justice Carmody will continue relentlessly with his opponents determined he must quit.

“It should be apparent to everyone, in particular the new Chief Justice and the Attorney-General, that no one (on the Supreme Court bench) will ever accept Carmody has the credentials or skills required (to do the job),” a senior judicial officer said.

“The only way this situation can be remedied is if (Justice Carmody) resigns and a more experienced (judge is) appointed.”

Justice Carmody is 58 and has 12 years left in the job before he is required to retire.

The rebellion has seen some Supreme Court judges even refuse to acknowledge Justice Carmody when they see him. It is understood the Supreme Court judges have been quietly nudging retiring or retired judges to take public shots at Justice Carmody.


What a bloody nightmare!  All Newmann's doing with the help of his Boy Wonder Attorney General.


Bit like when Joh made a copper a Judge!


That did not happen.  What you are probably referring to was that he plucked a nobody called Terry Lewis, a copper in western Queensland, and made him Police Commissioner.  The Fitzgerald Inquiry oversaw the particularly telling end to the corruption of Lewis.


For a Councillor who faced him down in the District Court Ipswich , and indeed put him in his place, on the record, during his brief stay as I judge, I be correct!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Aug 11th, 2014 at 11:33am

Aussie wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 6:15pm:
So, Newmman has been down in the polls, and today clawed a small bit back according to Rechtel, it seems at the very insignificant expense of PUP.

Not necessarily. What is also possible is that the latest sample of poll respondents had a few more people nominating LNP and a few less nominating PUP from among the available choices. Polls are subject to random variation and it's not possible to tell if this is a real movement from only one sample.


Quote:
And, also today, Newmman announces there will be a Report to be compiled on an increase in incidents of domestic violence over the last 12 months.

This is a pathetic political move to help him out in those polls.  Whatever money they are spending on this Report would be better allocated to the existing agencies dealing with the issue on a day to day, and hands on way.  But wait.....it gets better!

Who better (if you want votes) to appoint as the person charged with producing this Report than none other than a fantastic 'Uncle Tom' ~ Quinton Bryce, who has spent the last six+ years swanning around Canberra as GG hosting tea parties and handing out gongs which she did very well indeed.  Let's forget that she is a has been with zero relevant experience in the issue, or of preparing a Report.....and she, for goodness sake......is 71 years old!

What a bloody joke.

Link.

It's pretty obvious that Newman's been spooked by the heavy defeat that the LNP have received in the Stafford by-election. Although it is unlikely that the next Queensland state election will have a swing that large, a 10% swing against the government is likely.

Newman holds Ashgrove by only 7%. Recent polling in Ashgrove indicates a swing of 9% and so bears out the prediction that Newman will probably lose his own seat even though the ALP have not even chosen a candidate yet. If the ALP choose well, Newman is doomed to be defeated.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Aug 11th, 2014 at 12:22pm

Bam wrote on Aug 11th, 2014 at 11:33am:

Aussie wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 6:15pm:
So, Newmman has been down in the polls, and today clawed a small bit back according to Rechtel, it seems at the very insignificant expense of PUP.

Not necessarily. What is also possible is that the latest sample of poll respondents had a few more people nominating LNP and a few less nominating PUP from among the available choices. Polls are subject to random variation and it's not possible to tell if this is a real movement from only one sample.


Quote:
And, also today, Newmman announces there will be a Report to be compiled on an increase in incidents of domestic violence over the last 12 months.

This is a pathetic political move to help him out in those polls.  Whatever money they are spending on this Report would be better allocated to the existing agencies dealing with the issue on a day to day, and hands on way.  But wait.....it gets better!

Who better (if you want votes) to appoint as the person charged with producing this Report than none other than a fantastic 'Uncle Tom' ~ Quinton Bryce, who has spent the last six+ years swanning around Canberra as GG hosting tea parties and handing out gongs which she did very well indeed.  Let's forget that she is a has been with zero relevant experience in the issue, or of preparing a Report.....and she, for goodness sake......is 71 years old!

What a bloody joke.

Link.

It's pretty obvious that Newman's been spooked by the heavy defeat that the LNP have received in the Stafford by-election. Although it is unlikely that the next Queensland state election will have a swing that large, a 10% swing against the government is likely.

Newman holds Ashgrove by only 7%. Recent polling in Ashgrove indicates a swing of 9% and so bears out the prediction that Newman will probably lose his own seat even though the ALP have not even chosen a candidate yet. If the ALP choose well, Newman is doomed to be defeated.



Good to see the LNP and Newman owning up to increasing domestic violence with their sacking so many and making them slap happy because of it!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Aug 18th, 2014 at 1:33pm
Latest Galaxy Poll (published in today's Courier Mail) shows Newmann and his LNP sinking further.  (No link possible as the CM will not allow it.)

The most remarkable figure is that concerning preferred Premier with the ALPs Palaszczuk going from an original low of 15% to a current 41% ~ Newmann down 6% in three months to just 42%.

Two Party preferrred has Labor at 48% and LNP at 52% with LNP primary vote down 4% to 39% in three months. ALP primary at 36%.

This is just another brick in the wall, especially given Newmann's quite obvious attempt to appear benign (less confrontational) since the furore involving his political stuffing around with the CMC and the Supreme Court.

PUP consistent at 12%.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Aug 18th, 2014 at 2:05pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 18th, 2014 at 1:33pm:
Latest Galaxy Poll (published in today's Courier Mail) shows Newmann and his LNP sinking further.  (No link possible as the CM will not allow it.)

Poll Bludger also has the numbers for this poll and does allow links.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Aug 18th, 2014 at 2:11pm
newman will lose his seat.
ashgrove is full of white collar public servant types.
its luvvie central.
of course, theres not a person in ashgrove that is an assylum seeker or aborigine (the ashgrovians park all these out of sight in logan) but the ashgrove people are clones of sarah hansen young and david marr.
i was at a dinner party there and some smacking moronic psychologist chick started rabbiting on about terra nullis . i'd love to park 10 aborigines from logan next door to her and see how she fares.
they would appreciate her avacado and pine nut quiche, they're more into KFC.
anyway, i know plenty of people in ashgrove (unfortunately) and newmans gone.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Aug 18th, 2014 at 3:08pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 18th, 2014 at 2:11pm:
newman will lose his seat.

And good riddance. Such filth should not have been elected in the first place.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Aug 18th, 2014 at 7:29pm
I know it annoys one or two Members to hear, but I do have a connection of two in the ADF.  I asked a couple why Newmann bailed when he was a Major.  Bastards would not be specific but referred me to what is on the public record.  Bear in mind.....this bloke had Mummy and Daddy in parliamentary political positions, so the ADF would have been coy about not advancing his career.....which flopped at the level of Major after 12 years.

I reckon the little twerp has learned absolutely nothing since he left the Army.

Link.


Quote:
He has been lambasted as the 'Napoleon of City Hall' by his opposition, but it has been revealed Liberal National Party leader Campbell Newman lacked leadership skills as a young army captain.

The LNP has pinned some of its promotion of the former Brisbane lord mayor on his experience as an army major, with the man he ousted as opposition leader John-Paul Langbroek praising his "old military style" in organising Brisbane's flood recovery with "precision".

During his time in the army however, Mr Newman was warned against being an abrasive and distant leader, according to his official military record, obtained by The Australian newspaper under Freedom of Information laws.

His superiors at the Royal Military College questioned his decision-making and inter-personal skills on early postings.


"[LT Newman] occasionally displayed a lack of confidence during field training which manifested itself in a misappreciation of how to tackle a problem," his final report card read.

"This led to poor first attempts; however, he displayed the ability to learn from experience and second attempts invariably showed vast improvement."

Mr Newman declined to comment on the report today.

When he was first recommended for a command position he was found to be needing improvement on "specific, but minor, personal or professional attributes".

Upon his graduation from Duntroon cadet training academy, Mr Newman was warned he "must be careful not to alienate people by being too abrasive" and "must take care not to distance himself too far from his subordinates".


I am aware the Article goes on to quote the then Grigadier Cosgrove, but it is highly pertinent that Cosgrove made those motherhood waffles after Newmann departed and it is arguable he did so to make Mummy and Daddy feel better.



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Aug 20th, 2014 at 10:32pm

Bam wrote on Aug 18th, 2014 at 2:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 18th, 2014 at 1:33pm:
Latest Galaxy Poll (published in today's Courier Mail) shows Newmann and his LNP sinking further.  (No link possible as the CM will not allow it.)

Poll Bludger also has the numbers for this poll and does allow links.


Perhaps the trend line (from Poll Bludger) for opinion polling for Queensland is worth tossing out here. Make of it what you will.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Knight Errant Sir Grappler on Aug 20th, 2014 at 10:43pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 18th, 2014 at 2:11pm:
of course, theres not a person in ashgrove that is an assylum seeker or aborigine (the ashgrovians park all these out of sight in logan) but the ashgrove people are clones of sarah hansen young and david marr.
i was at a dinner party there and some smacking moronic psychologist chick started rabbiting on about terra nullis . i'd love to park 10 aborigines from logan next door to her and see how she fares.
they would appreciate her avacado and pine nut quiche, they're more into KFC.
anyway, i know plenty of people in ashgrove (unfortunately) and newmans gone.


I told you Billy Jack was a clear-headed seer and understood fully the demographics of privilege..

Friends, it made him feel real sick to see them Neo-Soweto Loganites forced into them ghettoes by them 4WD driving Ashgrove high flyers... let me tell you, this just makes the Duke sick to the stomach, and ready to throw a big one their way come next election time!  Nearly booked myself back into that thar hospital when I heard that Campbell still had a 42% favouritism for that premier spot, I was that sick, friends.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Sep 6th, 2014 at 12:43pm
ReachTel have released their latest poll for Ashgrove. Newman trails 42-58 on 2PP, with Labor polling a majority on the primary vote.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Sep 29th, 2014 at 3:00pm
Newmann is going to lose his seat of Ashgrove even if the LNP win the State election due March or so next year.

Link.


Quote:
Mr Newman holds Ashgrove with a 5.7 per cent margin, but recent polls indicated a significant swing against the Premier.



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Sep 29th, 2014 at 3:08pm
Aussie - Good work. Keep posting in this Queensland thread whenever something new comes up, it's interesting.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Sep 29th, 2014 at 5:54pm

Bam wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 3:08pm:
Aussie - Good work. Keep posting in this Queensland thread whenever something new comes up, it's interesting.


Thank you Bam.  You are doing your bit as well, so 'good work' to you too!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:04pm
Back to topic, it's very likely that Newman will lose his seat, and a lot of backbenchers with him. A lot of backbenchers will be starting to get worried because there's no way they will all retain their seats.

I expect backtracking on some more of the controversial decisions of his government to shore up some support. Too little too late.

I still expect the government to win a second term, but not led by Newman.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:14pm
Yeehah!  PUP gets its act together and there will be a broad Senate Inquiry into Newman's Government.  Report timed to come out just before next year's election.  I'm pleased.  It not only gets right under Newman's skin, it tells Abbott that now he has opened Pandoras Box with his insulation and union Royal Commissions, it is a two way street.

I am also really looking forward to learning what led up to Tim Carmody's appointment as the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Queensland when he occupied the low rank as mere Chief Magistrate. His twinkie will be twinking.  Good old Jarrod Bleije and his bikie laws.  Of course, Clive will be after blood on how the Government gave Gina the railway rights from the coal fields to the Port.

Oh, how very jolly it all will be!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by adelcrow on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:26pm

Bam wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:04pm:
Back to topic, it's very likely that Newman will lose his seat, and a lot of backbenchers with him. A lot of backbenchers will be starting to get worried because there's no way they will all retain their seats.

I expect backtracking on some more of the controversial decisions of his government to shore up some support. Too little too late.

I still expect the government to win a second term, but not led by Newman.


Yep...maybe one more term cut short by infighting...if the LNP do scrape by in Queensland it will be the last time they govern for at least 20 yrs.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by adelcrow on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:31pm
I did get an email from Kate Jones asking for a donation towards her campaign to get Newman tossed out....so yes given the lies and deception both Newman and his hero Abbott used to grab power Im donating to her campaign.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Stratos on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:34pm
QLD is getting their own ICAC.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-30/senate-opens-inquiry-into-newman-government/5780264

May all respective chickens come home to roost.  Give 'em hell.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:36pm

Stratos wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:34pm:
QLD is getting their own ICAC.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-30/senate-opens-inquiry-into-newman-government/5780264

May all respective chickens come home to roost.  Give 'em hell.



This is most bizarre. Mr palmer certainly does not like mr newman

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Stratos on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:38pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:36pm:
This is most bizarre. Mr palmer certainly does not like mr newman


Not in the least.  I wish it extended towards all QLD politicians and not just the Newman Government however.

This is absolutely being done for the wrong reasons, but I will always welcome things like this.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:46pm

Stratos wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:34pm:
QLD is getting their own ICAC.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-30/senate-opens-inquiry-into-newman-government/5780264

May all respective chickens come home to roost.  Give 'em hell.


Greens, Labour, PUP 38 Senators, out of 72 senators.

Clive should not count his chickens till they vote!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Sep 30th, 2014 at 7:09pm

DaS Energy wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:46pm:

Stratos wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:34pm:
QLD is getting their own ICAC.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-30/senate-opens-inquiry-into-newman-government/5780264

May all respective chickens come home to roost.  Give 'em hell.


Greens, Labour, PUP 38 Senators, out of 72 senators.

Clive should not count his chickens till they vote!


DaS, you really are pretty naive about some stuff.  There is no vote.  There will be an Inquiry, witnesses compelled, and documents compelled into production, and then a Report.  The Inquiry is made by a Committee in this case led by Lazarus, with two ALP, one LNP and one Green Senator (I think that is the correct make-up.)

I love the way Brandis lost his temper over this in the Senate today.  Karma buddy ~ karma is a bitch.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:18pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 7:09pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:46pm:

Stratos wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:34pm:
QLD is getting their own ICAC.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-30/senate-opens-inquiry-into-newman-government/5780264

May all respective chickens come home to roost.  Give 'em hell.


Greens, Labour, PUP 38 Senators, out of 72 senators.

Clive should not count his chickens till they vote!


DaS, you really are pretty naive about some stuff.  There is no vote.  There will be an Inquiry, witnesses compelled, and documents compelled into production, and then a Report.  The Inquiry is made by a Committee in this case led by Lazarus, with two ALP, one LNP and one Green Senator (I think that is the correct make-up.)

I love the way Brandis lost his temper over this in the Senate today.  Karma buddy ~ karma is a bitch.


There was a vote, taken before DaS was aware!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:19pm
The Senate voted today to set the Inquiry up.  Please.......read ^^^^^^^.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Stratos on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:20pm

DaS Energy wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:18pm:
No vote no inquiry!


Senate has already voted on it.  It's all in the article.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:24pm
Curious to read the Bill, "There's a whole lot of terms of reference," Clive Palmer!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:33pm

Stratos wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:20pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:18pm:
No vote no inquiry!


Senate has already voted on it.  It's all in the article.


Thanks, now updated from yesterday when Labour was refusing to back!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:36pm
:)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:37pm

DaS Energy wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:24pm:
Curious to read the Bill, "There's a whole lot of terms of reference," Clive Palmer!


There is no Bill.  There is simply a Motion moved and voted in favour of in the Senate.  That is all which is required to set the Inquiry up.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:38pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:14pm:
Yeehah!  PUP gets its act together and there will be a broad Senate Inquiry into Newman's Government.  Report timed to come out just before next year's election.  I'm pleased.  It not only gets right under Newman's skin, it tells Abbott that now he has opened Pandoras Box with his insulation and union Royal Commissions, it is a two way street.

I am also really looking forward to learning what led up to Tim Carmody's appointment as the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Queensland when he occupied the low rank as mere Chief Magistrate. His twinkie will be twinking.  Good old Jarrod Bleije and his bikie laws.  Of course, Clive will be after blood on how the Government gave Gina the railway rights from the coal fields to the Port.

Oh, how very jolly it all will be!


This is beautiful, just beautiful  :)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:39pm

DaS Energy wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:33pm:

Stratos wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:20pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:18pm:
No vote no inquiry!


Senate has already voted on it.  It's all in the article.


Thanks, now updated from yesterday when Labour was refusing to back!


That was last week (or maybe a tad earlier.) 

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:52pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:39pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:33pm:

Stratos wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:20pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 8:18pm:
No vote no inquiry!


Senate has already voted on it.  It's all in the article.


Thanks, now updated from yesterday when Labour was refusing to back!


That was last week (or maybe a tad earlier.) 


Last was yesterday. Senate vote taken 5.30 30th September 2014

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Sep 30th, 2014 at 9:09pm
Newmann plays the 'wife' card so often, I reckon he is leaving her wide open to political attack as fair game.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Sep 30th, 2014 at 9:12pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 9:09pm:
Newmann plays the 'wife' card so often, I reckon he is leaving her wide open to political attack as fair game.



Look at em, all red in the face and ready to pop behind the wheelie bin for some jiggy jig from enjoying another boozy lunch at our expense.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Sep 30th, 2014 at 9:17pm
Taxpayer's money going into Newmann's campaign to retain his seat of Ashgrove.  Pork barreling at its worse.  This is from today's Courier Mail.....which does not allow me to link it.


Quote:
LNP spends $80m to secure Campbell Newman’s seat of Ashgrove

    STEVEN WARDILL, SARAH VOGLER
    The Courier-Mail
    September 30, 2014 12:00AM

Kate Jones is once again taking on Premier Campbell Newman in her former seat.

Kate Jones is once again taking on Premier Campbell Newman in her former seat.

THE in-joke among political types is that if there’s a state government grant Ashgrove hasn’t got, then Premier Campbell Newman doesn’t know it exists.

New classrooms, enhanced sporting facilities, improved public transport and upgraded roads have all been funnelled into Mr Newman’s northwestern Brisbane electorate over the past 2½ years.



The LNP is hoping the more than $80 million worth of work in Ashgrove will barricade Mr Newman against former Labor MP Kate Jones’s quest to reclaim the seat.

The big-ticket items in the Ashgrove spending spree, which works out to be more than $2500 per voter, include a $5 million sports hall at The Gap State High School and $3 million on new classrooms for Ashgrove State School.

A $65 million upgrade to the Samford Rd and Wardell St intersection has been the biggest single commitment.

There has also been numerous smaller amounts, including $20,000 for an artist “to explore art”, $8322 for a new kitchen for the scouts and $6160 for a local Italian festival to purchase equipment.

The Sunday Mail revealed at the weekend Ms Jones would seek to contest the seat as she addressed a group of dedicated branch members in an Ashgrove back yard.


Amazing, wot?  And 'you' reckon politics is all fair 'n square.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 7:50pm
So.....former LNP Leader, Bruce Flegg has been told today by the Faceless LNP Men that they will not allow him to run for even pre-selection in his very safe LNP seat of Moggil (sp.)  Dunno how they do that, and I expect there will be absolute outrage among the faithfull there.  This will be very controversial.  So.....what does he do?  He is very, very popular there.  He's got a wad of dough - net worth around $M20.  He likely would win as an Independant.......and I reckon Clive will be having a thoughtie.

His seat is right beside that of Newmann's - Ashgrove.....(Brisbane.)  Newmann and Flegg are pretty pally, and Newmann is always personally supportive of Flegg.

Is this part of some grander LNP plan, maybe even to get to/at Newmann?  I have no idea who they have who can credibly replace him.

He is a political prick, but he is the only natural Leader they have.  He sucks with the electorate, even in his own seat.

How very bloody jolly this all is!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by longweekend58 on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 8:04pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 9:09pm:
Newmann plays the 'wife' card so often, I reckon he is leaving her wide open to political attack as fair game.



only a single man living alone could make such a claim.  Most of us protect our wives.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 8:43pm

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 8:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 9:09pm:
Newmann plays the 'wife' card so often, I reckon he is leaving her wide open to political attack as fair game.



only a single man living alone could make such a claim.  Most of us protect our wives.


It may surprise you (and others) to know, melielongtime, that I have run for election to Parliament....as an Independant......did not win............but got way more than enough votes to make a nice  profit on the project, and not once was the Indian Bride specifically mentioned by name or photographed during that campaign.  If I had, I would have opened her up to the scrutiny Newmann has to his Wife.  You cannot play that hand without it being called.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 9:44pm
Veteran LNP MP Bruce Flegg tweets anger over being dumped as election candidate

Bruce Flegg says LNP does not believe Campbell Newman can win his seat of Ashgrove

Looks like the cracks are showing in the LNP in Queensland ...

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Oct 4th, 2014 at 10:44am
Her Royal Majesty after being summonsed by Qld Citizen saw to it the Heiner Commission was Established.

Reply is awaited from Her Royal Majesty to Qld Government via its Attorney General taking away Criminal Court approval to hear criminal charges when they be against an employee of Qld Government, especially when such person is engaged in obtaining money from Qld Citizens to give to Qld Government.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Oct 4th, 2014 at 3:06pm

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 4th, 2014 at 10:44am:
Her Royal Majesty after being summonsed by Qld Citizen saw to it the Heiner Commission was Established.

Reply is awaited form Her Royal Majesty to Qld Government via its Attorney General taking away Criminal Court approval to hear criminal charges when they be against an employee of Qld Government, especially when such person is engaged in obtaining money from Qld Citizens to give to Qld Government.


Can someone - anyone, dumb that down for me?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Oct 4th, 2014 at 5:24pm
So Newmann is not eyeing the 'sacked' Flegg's seat:

Link.

While it might be true, I am not buying it yet.  Newmann is seven points behind in the Polls in his seat of  Ashgrove.  If they have not dumped Flegg to make way for Newmann in Flegg's Moggill seat (right next door to Newmann's Ashgrove in Brisbane)......why dump a bloke who was going to romp home next election?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by longweekend58 on Oct 4th, 2014 at 7:53pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 4th, 2014 at 3:06pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 4th, 2014 at 10:44am:
Her Royal Majesty after being summonsed by Qld Citizen saw to it the Heiner Commission was Established.

Reply is awaited form Her Royal Majesty to Qld Government via its Attorney General taking away Criminal Court approval to hear criminal charges when they be against an employee of Qld Government, especially when such person is engaged in obtaining money from Qld Citizens to give to Qld Government.


Can someone - anyone, dumb that down for me?


It's DaS.  it started insane with a dash of stupid to it.  End result... nothing even understandable never-mind correct.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Oct 5th, 2014 at 12:37pm
Clive Palmer is taking legal action against the people who are being probed, he's set up the inquiry and now one of his senators is chairing it - See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/politics/national/2014/10/03/qld-govt-could-refuse-senate-probe.html#sthash.mDVnu9JC.dpuf

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Oct 5th, 2014 at 12:40pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 8:43pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 8:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 9:09pm:
Newmann plays the 'wife' card so often, I reckon he is leaving her wide open to political attack as fair game.



only a single man living alone could make such a claim.  Most of us protect our wives.


It may surprise you (and others) to know, melielongtime, that I have run for election to Parliament....as an Independant......did not win............but got way more than enough votes to make a nice  profit on the project, and not once was the Indian Bride specifically mentioned by name or photographed during that campaign.  If I had, I would have opened her up to the scrutiny Newmann has to his Wife.  You cannot play that hand without it being called.



Date?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Oct 5th, 2014 at 12:56pm
Of course, Dear.  Do I get to pick the Restaurant?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Oct 5th, 2014 at 5:36pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 4th, 2014 at 3:06pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 4th, 2014 at 10:44am:
Her Royal Majesty after being summonsed by Qld Citizen saw to it the Heiner Commission was Established.

Reply is awaited form Her Royal Majesty to Qld Government via its Attorney General taking away Criminal Court approval to hear criminal charges when they be against an employee of Qld Government, especially when such person is engaged in obtaining money from Qld Citizens to give to Qld Government.


Can someone - anyone, dumb that down for me?


The Heiner inquiry which had no political taint began after Her Royal Majesty was summonsed.

The Fitzgerald inquiry which had no political taint began after a Nationals Minister called it into being.

Her Royal Majesty has been summonsed to the LNP control over the Courts. Reply from Her Royal Majesty not yet been received.

Clive's purpose in having those he owns set up the Clive inquiry was to block both Her Royal Majesty and Fitzgerald investigations.

Clive and those he owns stay silent, an Investigation established under the hand of Her Royal Majesty has the power to change things wether Clive or the LNP like it or not!

Clive advising's to both, the Senate has those matters under investigation, any further investigation would only impede on the Senate inquiry.

Clive Palmer gave specific instruction to the Members and Senators he owns, they must not allow any independent investigation into the LNP or Clive's involvement.

The People of Qld and its Police had such much trust in the Fitzgerald inquiry, they assisted it, and Police laid charges.

Clive's inquiry has no weight as it is purely a political investigation with purpose to satisfy Clive, not to bring about change.

Clive knows his inquiry has the power to change nothing.

Clive and those he owns have handed Qlders a $Millions dollar bill to satisfy Clive Palmer.



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Oct 8th, 2014 at 8:20pm
More grist for the mill.  The PUP Parliamentary Leader, Carl Judge, of two months has quit........amicably of course.  Yeas, of course.  Amicably.

Link.

Oh well.......He is a good bloke, but he is not a Sunshine Coaster.  Who knows who PUP will now endorse for that seat 'Kawana.'  Might be me!  Yay, me!

Or not.




Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Oct 8th, 2014 at 9:09pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 8th, 2014 at 8:20pm:
More grist for the mill.  The PUP Parliamentary Leader, Carl Judge, of two months has quit........amicably of course.  Yeas, of course.  Amicably.

Link.

Oh well.......He is a good bloke, but he is not a Sunshine Coaster.  Who knows who PUP will now endorse for that seat 'Kawana.'  Might be me!  Yay, me!

Or not.



May come to pass he and Alex did so in protest of inactivity to actions of Campbell and his Team!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Oct 12th, 2014 at 2:56pm
The latest ReachTel opinion poll for the state of Queensland has put the LNP ahead 51 to 49. More at Poll Bludger.

The unbalanced election result of the last term will not be repeated any time soon. It's looking likely that the next Queensland election will be much closer than the last. I still expect the LNP to be returned, but with a considerably reduced margin.

Support for PUP has declined noticeably in the past few polls. They have dropped from about 15% to 7% in the last four polls.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Oct 12th, 2014 at 5:11pm

Bam wrote on Oct 12th, 2014 at 2:56pm:
The latest ReachTel opinion poll for the state of Queensland has put the LNP ahead 51 to 49. More at Poll Bludger.

The unbalanced election result of the last term will not be repeated any time soon. It's looking likely that the next Queensland election will be much closer than the last. I still expect the LNP to be returned, but with a considerably reduced margin.

Support for PUP has declined noticeably in the past few polls. They have dropped from about 15% to 7% in the last four polls.


The decline in PUP support is predictable.  Douglas and now Judge gone.  But......................the next election will not be won or lost around either of them.  I doubt either of the major parties will be able to govern without support of at least PUP, and/or the independants, which MAY include Douglas, Judge and definitely Peter Wellington from my very own dung hill even though I don't 'like' the bloke.

Palmer has a stash of dough ready to drop on this election, and when that happens you watch the support grow.  Advertising wins votes.  That currently to begin Senate Inquiry will hurt Newmann big time.

PUP will win seats.  With or without successful independants, they will hold the balance of power.  That's all Palmer needs.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Oct 13th, 2014 at 1:18am

Aussie wrote on Oct 12th, 2014 at 5:11pm:

Bam wrote on Oct 12th, 2014 at 2:56pm:
The latest ReachTel opinion poll for the state of Queensland has put the LNP ahead 51 to 49. More at Poll Bludger.

The unbalanced election result of the last term will not be repeated any time soon. It's looking likely that the next Queensland election will be much closer than the last. I still expect the LNP to be returned, but with a considerably reduced margin.

Support for PUP has declined noticeably in the past few polls. They have dropped from about 15% to 7% in the last four polls.


The decline in PUP support is predictable.  Douglas and now Judge gone.  But......................the next election will not be won or lost around either of them.  I doubt either of the major parties will be able to govern without support of at least PUP, and/or the independants, which MAY include Douglas, Judge and definitely Peter Wellington from my very own dung hill even though I don't 'like' the bloke.

Palmer has a stash of dough ready to drop on this election, and when that happens you watch the support grow.  Advertising wins votes.  That currently to begin Senate Inquiry will hurt Newmann big time.

PUP will win seats.  With or without successful independants, they will hold the balance of power.  That's all Palmer needs.


Palmer is giving all of his Member salary to the Electorate, where is that publicly accounted?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Oct 16th, 2014 at 5:31pm
Well, this one is a doozy!

Link.

Douglas has his own agenda after having left PUP, and Judge, who also left, is likely more balanced.  I reckon this is a 'dog whistle' sent by Douglas to hasten Palmer into naming his candidates.

There is a genuine weakness Douglas will be very familiar with, and that it that PUP still has no proper party structure, or anything like it.  There is Membership..............and that's where it ends.

However, it is inconceivable that Clive will allow Newmann to wriggle off the hook.  That PUP initiated Senate Inquiry is about to kick off.  Clive has been vocal if not bitter about the misconduct of Newmann.

So, I reckon this is Douglas trying to get Clive to declare a hand he is not ready or prepared to show.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Neferti on Oct 16th, 2014 at 5:45pm
This is what the followers of PUP say ......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpkr5dN0WLk



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Oct 16th, 2014 at 7:13pm
Further to my comments concerning Douglas/PUP.....this is the context.

Link.

Worth a look.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Oct 16th, 2014 at 7:37pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 16th, 2014 at 5:31pm:
Well, this one is a doozy!

Link.

Douglas has his own agenda after having left PUP, and Judge, who also left, is likely more balanced.  I reckon this is a 'dog whistle' sent by Douglas to hasten Palmer into naming his candidates.

There is a genuine weakness Douglas will be very familiar with, and that it that PUP still has no proper party structure, or anything like it.  There is Membership..............and that's where it ends.

However, it is inconceivable that Clive will allow Newmann to wriggle off the hook.  That PUP initiated Senate Inquiry is about to kick off.  Clive has been vocal if not bitter about the misconduct of Newmann.

So, I reckon this is Douglas trying to get Clive to declare a hand he is not ready or prepared to show.


Douglas, LNP, PUP, Independent, Katter, Nobody.

Judge, LNP, PUP, Independent, Katter, Nobody.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Oct 16th, 2014 at 9:08pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 16th, 2014 at 7:13pm:
Further to my comments concerning Douglas/PUP.....this is the context.

Link.

Worth a look.


Douglas plans 50 more independents for Qld

Dr Douglas also said he would roll out 50 independent candidates to try and win government and end the state duopoly of the Liberal National Party (LNP) and Labor.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Oct 16th, 2014 at 9:17pm

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 16th, 2014 at 9:08pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 16th, 2014 at 7:13pm:
Further to my comments concerning Douglas/PUP.....this is the context.

Link.

Worth a look.


Douglas plans 50 more independents for Qld

Dr Douglas also said he would roll out 50 independent candidates to try and win government and end the state duopoly of the Liberal National Party (LNP) and Labor.


Non sequitur is non sequitur.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by DaS Energy on Oct 16th, 2014 at 11:50pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 16th, 2014 at 9:17pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 16th, 2014 at 9:08pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 16th, 2014 at 7:13pm:
Further to my comments concerning Douglas/PUP.....this is the context.

Link.

Worth a look.


Douglas plans 50 more independents for Qld

Dr Douglas also said he would roll out 50 independent candidates to try and win government and end the state duopoly of the Liberal National Party (LNP) and Labor.


Non sequitur is non sequitur.



Douglas, Judge united independent Katter! 

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Dec 7th, 2014 at 12:28pm
Abbott and Newmann are copping an absolute pasting up here.

Link.

55-45 ALP over LNP and same figures against Newmann is his own seat of Ashgrove.

Yay!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Dec 7th, 2014 at 1:36pm
Aussie, your link doesn't work.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Dec 7th, 2014 at 1:51pm

Bam wrote on Dec 7th, 2014 at 1:36pm:
Aussie, your link doesn't work.


Aaaaaaw!  Crap!!  (Hope it does now.  Ta.)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Team Froggie on Dec 7th, 2014 at 2:04pm
All better now, mate...

:)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Dec 7th, 2014 at 2:38pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 7th, 2014 at 12:28pm:
Abbott and Newmann are copping an absolute pasting up here.

Link.

55-45 ALP over LNP and same figures against Newmann is his own seat of Ashgrove.

Yay!



I'm lovin' it.....................

I hope we crush all the neo cons.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Dec 8th, 2014 at 2:51pm
Was talking to a dyed in the wool, blue rinse brigade LNP supporter and long term Member this morning and during the course of that, this concept occurred to me.  It is reminiscent of the situation some years ago when the Libs went into an election not certain who would be its leader post election.

Given Newmann is in so much personal strife in his own seat, it is entirely likely he will lose it to the ALP......it is still possible the LNP might just hang on to Government.  But, a smart ALP campaign leading into the election will concentrate on leadership, and constantly ask of the LNP........'Who will be Premier if you win, if, in the likely event, Newmann loses his seat?'

It is a ripper, and one they cannot answer without admitting the likelihood Newmann might lose, eroding confidence.....and so......the LNP will go into that election with the voters at large not knowing who will be Premier if the LNP do inch across the line.  Who is going to vote LNP when they have no idea who the Leader/Premier will be post election?

Jolly, wot?

An off shoot of that is the question whether the LNP heirarchy can see that dilemma they truly are facing, and if they do (they are not strategically dumb) will they move against Newmann early....like now.  There is a sign they might.

Bruce Flegg, the sitting LNP Member for Mogull (a seat immediately adjacent to Newmann's Ashgrove) only yesterday lost LNP endorsement after a vote among the Members at Mogull.  An important aspect of that was that the LNP Executive (non local Members of Mogull) were also able to vote in that endorsement secret ballot.  It is speculated that it was the votes of the Executive which saw Flegg lose the race.  Here is the kicker ~ Flegg went onto that vote showing to everyone a letter clearly demonstrating he had the personal support of Newmann and many other sitting LNP Pollies.  He still failed to get Executive support in the ballot.

In other words, in an indirect way, the LNP hierarchy defied Newmann.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Dec 12th, 2014 at 10:24am
Just to keep things updated:

Newmann now admits possible defeat.

Link.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Dec 28th, 2014 at 3:15pm
Well, I should not be too surprised given this bloke has often attended PUP events.

Link.


Quote:
Palmer United Party (PUP) leader Clive Palmer has announced John Bjelke-Petersen, the son of former Queensland premier Sir Joh, as the party's leader in Queensland ahead of the pending state election.

Mr Bjelke-Petersen, a former Liberal National Party (LNP) member, was endorsed earlier this year as the PUP candidate for Callide, to stand against the electorate's current member and Queensland Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney.

Mr Seeney has held the electorate since 1998.


I hope he takes after his Mother and not his Old Man.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Dec 28th, 2014 at 3:33pm
Good seat selection.  Seeney is on the nose.  Callide has always been National Party heart land (huge rural area west of Bundaberg, Maryborough and Gympie - including many Aboriginal Communities) but in the last election (2012) Seeney took a swing against hit of 5.45%.  Still held it comfortably, but the interesting thing is that the Katter Party candidate picked up a positive swing of 26%.

So......I reckon Katter will not contest in Callide, leaving Joh's Son as a PUP a clear conservative field against Seeney.  You can bet that Katter and B-Petersen have strong personal ties.

All jolly stuff!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Dec 28th, 2014 at 4:02pm
Ch. 9 must have the idiots writing the News scripts for today.  They are announcing that John B-Petersen had switched allegiance to PUP to do this.  Sheeeeeeees.....!!!!!!!!!!!  The bloke was the endorsed PUP candidate for the Federal seat of Maranoa in the 2013 Election.

Ferk me, our schmedia is atrocious!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Dec 28th, 2014 at 8:35pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 28th, 2014 at 4:02pm:
Ch. 9 must have the idiots writing the News scripts for today.  They are announcing that John B-Petersen had switched allegiance to PUP to do this.  Sheeeeeeees.....!!!!!!!!!!!  The bloke was the endorsed PUP candidate for the Federal seat of Maranoa in the 2013 Election.

Ferk me, our schmedia is atrocious!

I hope they're publishing a correction soon.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler (50 shades of) on Dec 28th, 2014 at 9:40pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 28th, 2014 at 4:02pm:
Ch. 9 must have the idiots writing the News scripts for today.  They are announcing that John B-Petersen had switched allegiance to PUP to do this.  Sheeeeeeees.....!!!!!!!!!!!  The bloke was the endorsed PUP candidate for the Federal seat of Maranoa in the 2013 Election.

Ferk me, our schmedia is atrocious!


All run by sheilas these days - no real idea of very much at all in the real world - even spelling... hold on - that's sppeling..

No idea of doing any research.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Mod. on Dec 28th, 2014 at 9:43pm
I'll use this Thread to remind Members of FD's request that we not attempt to read a Hacker's Posts.....and this time it clearly is Bambu1.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Dec 29th, 2014 at 7:16pm
Blaaady hell!  I'd love a dollar for every time we have stuffed around with Secondary School exit results.

Link.

In my day, it was an externally run examination.  I.e., every kid doing Senior across the entire State sat for examinations (the same papers/questions) run by the University.  Yeas, lots of pressure on a single week at the end of Year 12.  You swam or sank, no matter what the excuse was.

So.....it is back to the future with this new idea except there is to be a school based influence over the final outcome which will include the results of exactly what we did way back in 1966.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Dec 30th, 2014 at 12:48pm
Good Thread ~ on Newmann.

Link.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 5th, 2015 at 10:15pm
An early election?????

Link.

Maybe.  Let's see tomorrow.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 5th, 2015 at 10:17pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 10:15pm:
An early election?????

Link.

Maybe.  Let's see tomorrow.

Interesting ... perhaps he's considering going early to save the furniture?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jan 5th, 2015 at 10:20pm

Bam wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 10:17pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 10:15pm:
An early election?????

Link.

Maybe.  Let's see tomorrow.

Interesting ... perhaps he's considering going early to save the furniture?

or, as I said in another thread, he's trying to stave off a leadership challenge

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 5th, 2015 at 10:35pm
Sorry, I was not looking for discussion here Mr Smith.  Was just up-dating it.  Hopefully once the election is called, this Thread might be useful for discussion for the duration.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 6th, 2015 at 8:11am
An early election?????

It looks almost certain.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 6th, 2015 at 8:19am
My prediction, copied from another thread:


Bam wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 9:44am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 8:28am:
so its looking like an LNP win - but with the premier losing his seat...

I agree; that is the most likely scenario. The opinion polling has been interesting, it has had the ALP level and even ahead, not bad for a party that got soundly defeated less than three years ago. The ALP could take back government if they run a solid campaign. I expect the LNP to hold on narrowly, losing about 30-35 seats, and the first order of business will be choosing a new Premier after Newman loses Ashgrove to Kate Jones.


If my prediction is correct, here are the implications. I assume that the seats lost are compared to the seats won by the LNP at the last election (78). They have lost five MPs since the election. The Queensland parliament has 89 seats and the majority is 45.

If my prediction is accurate, it looks as if Labor will take back almost all of the LNP's majority.

If the LNP lose 30 seats, they would hold 48 seats, which would be enough for a majority. It won't be a comfortable majority though.

If they lose 35 seats, they would hold 43 seats and would no longer have a majority. Labor would also be short of a majority. In this scenario the crossbench would be helping to form a government. Because the crossbench would be overwhelmingly conservative (KAP, PUP and maybe one or two independents), they would be likely to support the LNP.

The middle is also interesting. If the government ends up with a slender majority, the new Premier (Newman will lose Ashgrove) will want to seek a snap election to gain a more workable majority whenever the opportunity presents itself.

I expect the result to be at the lower end of this range (30 or 31).

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 6th, 2015 at 2:05pm
The Sunshine Coast has six seats, ignoring the hinterland areas ~ we have Buderim, Caloundra, Kawana, Maroochydore, Nicklin and Noosa.  All are held by the LNP except Nicklin, held by long term Independant Peter Wellington.

Wellington has been associated closely with PUP but has been quite coy (even a little too cute if you think like me) about actually declaring him self a PUP Member.  He has managed to walk a tight rope pretty successfully.  He wants PUP support, but he has been reluctant to actually join.  Whether he takes PUP endorsement or PUP fields against him will be one of the most interesting things for me.  Nicklin is where I am enrolled, although I could just as easily and lawfully enroll in Kawana.  Wellington will hold this seat, even though he lost ground to the LNP last election when they threw John 'Knuckes" Connolly (the former Wallaby Coach) at him.  The LNP vote will drop, so I reckon Wellington will be okay.  I reckon he will run as an independant.

Buderim is LNP heart land.  Typical blue rinse brigade mob of toffee nosed tea drinking wankers who have that old portrait of Queen Elizabeth hung in pride of place.  Currently held by a divisive individual, Steve Dickson, a former Councillor who operated as a hatchet man.  He will hang on.

Caloundra ~ formerly the seat of Joan Sheldon, one time Queensland Treasurer, long term resident, and wife of a retired Lawyer. Now held by the LNP through Mark McArdle whom I know quite well.  He was a Lawyer and former partner of one Terry Boyce in a firm known as Boyce Garrick (and Eastman.)  Boyce was struck off for ripping millions out of clients who lost life savings investing in a stupid mortgage operation run by Boyce and which profitted the firm.  McArdle escaped claiming "I knew nothing."  Yet, he was happy to share in the profits.  His is a Minister (of Energy) and will hang on.

Kawana will be where fur will fly in all directions, as PUP will go hard there.  Currently held by the LNP's Jarrod Bleije the Attorney General responsible for the law and order debacle and judicial appointments.  It has been held by Labor so there is a significant block there.  Federally, it is the seat of Mal Brough, and formerly Peter Slipper, so there is plenty of LNP mud lying around.  PUP did very well in the Federal election, winning many booths.  PUP have a strong State candidate ~ Jeremy Davey, a local bloke, and former high level Naval Officer who was personally observant of stop boats.  Admits he has post traumatic stress after fishing bodies out of the ocean.  His kids go to school locally and he is a Member of important community groups.  He'll do well, and I'd love to see that little fart dictator wannebe Attorney General shown the door.  It'll be close.

Maroochydore.  Held by the LNP through Fiona Simpson the current Speaker in Parliamant.  She is vulnerable.  Not personally popular.  This is Federal Fairfax Country, the seat won by Palmer last Federal election.  Dunno who the ALP or PUP are running there, but Fiona is in danger.  Edit....dunno how I managed to overlook this, but I did.  Here is the PUP Candidate. Her old man, an LNP alumni and former MLA rang PUP HQ and begged them to not field against his darling daughter.  Bugger off, Fiona.  You might hang on but get your tooth brush packed.

Noosa.  Ink it in.  LNP win by plenty.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 6th, 2015 at 2:44pm
Just in from PUP HQ:


Quote:
The state election has been announced for 31 January 2015.

Our party’s campaign launch will be held on Sunday 18 January 2015 at the Palmer Coolum Resort, Coolum (Sunshine Coast), commencing at 10am and concluding by midday.

State Leader John Bjelke-Petersen will introduce and announce the party’s candidates.

Senators Glenn Lazarus and Dio Wang will attend the launch as well as Federal Leader of the Palmer United Party and Member for Fairfax, Clive Palmer.


I hope the candidates are announced well before then!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 6th, 2015 at 4:30pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 6th, 2015 at 2:44pm:
Just in from PUP HQ:


Quote:
The state election has been announced for 31 January 2015.

Our party’s campaign launch will be held on Sunday 18 January 2015 at the Palmer Coolum Resort, Coolum (Sunshine Coast), commencing at 10am and concluding by midday.

State Leader John Bjelke-Petersen will introduce and announce the party’s candidates.

Senators Glenn Lazarus and Dio Wang will attend the launch as well as Federal Leader of the Palmer United Party and Member for Fairfax, Clive Palmer.


I hope the candidates are announced well before then!



Well, now the Coolum Resort will actually have some guests!!!!  pity that Palmer will be paying for them all!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 6th, 2015 at 4:35pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 6th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 6th, 2015 at 2:44pm:
Just in from PUP HQ:


Quote:
The state election has been announced for 31 January 2015.

Our party’s campaign launch will be held on Sunday 18 January 2015 at the Palmer Coolum Resort, Coolum (Sunshine Coast), commencing at 10am and concluding by midday.

State Leader John Bjelke-Petersen will introduce and announce the party’s candidates.

Senators Glenn Lazarus and Dio Wang will attend the launch as well as Federal Leader of the Palmer United Party and Member for Fairfax, Clive Palmer.


I hope the candidates are announced well before then!



Well, now the Coolum Resort will actually have some guests!!!!  pity that Palmer will be paying for them all!


Why don't you take your childish and irrelevant comments to the local kindergarten where perhaps they will be better appreciated?  The three year olds will get a great laugh, I'm sure.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by life_goes_on on Jan 6th, 2015 at 4:35pm
Newman will more than likely be gone.

The LNP will be returned with a much reduced minority.

PUP might get one or two elected. They've lost that initial boost and I think that overall, Queenslanders are a bit more aware of just how whacky Palmer himself is. The whole sorry Lambie affair hasn't done them any favours.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 6th, 2015 at 4:35pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 6th, 2015 at 2:44pm:
Just in from PUP HQ:


Quote:
The state election has been announced for 31 January 2015.

Our party’s campaign launch will be held on Sunday 18 January 2015 at the Palmer Coolum Resort, Coolum (Sunshine Coast), commencing at 10am and concluding by midday.

State Leader John Bjelke-Petersen will introduce and announce the party’s candidates.

Senators Glenn Lazarus and Dio Wang will attend the launch as well as Federal Leader of the Palmer United Party and Member for Fairfax, Clive Palmer.


I hope the candidates are announced well before then!


I predict PUP will do exceedingly badly and poll around 2-3%.  Palmer has hardly shown the nation how a hard-working MP should act and his senators - the two that remain - have shown themselves to be nobodies on the intellectual and policy front.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jan 6th, 2015 at 4:39pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 6th, 2015 at 4:35pm:
Newman will more than likely be gone.

The LNP will be returned with a much reduced minority.

PUP might get one or two elected. They've lost that initial boost and I think that overall, Queenslanders are a bit more aware of just how whacky Palmer himself is. The whole sorry Lambie affair hasn't done them any favours.



Newman is history, libs will be back but with a majority of one or two seats  ...Palmer is finished

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 6th, 2015 at 4:42pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 6th, 2015 at 4:39pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 6th, 2015 at 4:35pm:
Newman will more than likely be gone.

The LNP will be returned with a much reduced minority.

PUP might get one or two elected. They've lost that initial boost and I think that overall, Queenslanders are a bit more aware of just how whacky Palmer himself is. The whole sorry Lambie affair hasn't done them any favours.



Newman is history, libs will be back but with a majority of one or two seats  ...Palmer is finished


Agreed. Palmer is gone, but that was obvious about 2 weeks into his parliamentary term and confirmed when his dopey senators unleashed their stupidty on the nation.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 7th, 2015 at 11:11am
Some housekeeping ~

Link.


Quote:
Send Them A Message - Get Rid Of Campbell Newman




Link.


Quote:
Tony Abbott Is Box Office Poison In Queensland



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 7th, 2015 at 11:18am

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 6th, 2015 at 4:35pm:
Newman will more than likely be gone.

The LNP will be returned with a much reduced minority.

PUP might get one or two elected. They've lost that initial boost and I think that overall, Queenslanders are a bit more aware of just how whacky Palmer himself is. The whole sorry Lambie affair hasn't done them any favours.

I pretty much agree with all of that.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 7th, 2015 at 11:40am
I'll take a moment to discuss the minor parties.

At the last election:
* KAP 2
* Independents 1

Current holdings of minor parties:
* KAP 3
* Independents 4

PUP was founded since the last election. PUP have strong levels of support around the Gold Coast, but less support elsewhere. They may get one or two members elected, but that's all. PUP will also bleed votes from the LNP - perhaps harvesting a substantial protest vote - and it is likely that these PUP protest votes will be exhausted and not find their way back to the LNP. If this happens, I do not see it making a difference to the overall election result, but it may change the result in one or two seats.

PUP has overshadowed KAP in the last year and KAP has low levels of support. I do not think KAP will hold all their seats. They may get one or two returned. Ray Hopper left the LNP to join KAP (and is therefore at the most risk of losing his seat), whereas Rob Katter (son of Bob Katter) and Shane Knuth were elected as KAP members at the last election and should have better chances.

Three of the four independents were former members of the LNP who left the party after the last election: Alex Douglas and Carl Judge (both of whom also joined and left PUP) and Scott Driscoll. These members may struggle to hold their seats against endorsed LNP candidates.

Liz Cunningham is a long-serving independent who has held her seat of Gladstone since 1995. She should be returned easily.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 7th, 2015 at 12:05pm

Bam wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 11:40am:
I'll take a moment to discuss the minor parties.

At the last election:
* KAP 2
* Independents 1

Current holdings of minor parties:
* KAP 3
* Independents 4

PUP was founded since the last election. PUP have strong levels of support around the Gold Coast, but less support elsewhere. They may get one or two members elected, but that's all. PUP will also bleed votes from the LNP - perhaps harvesting a substantial protest vote - and it is likely that these PUP protest votes will be exhausted and not find their way back to the LNP. If this happens, I do not see it making a difference to the overall election result, but it may change the result in one or two seats.

PUP has overshadowed KAP in the last year and KAP has low levels of support. I do not think KAP will hold all their seats. They may get one or two returned. Ray Hopper left the LNP to join KAP (and is therefore at the most risk of losing his seat), whereas Rob Katter (son of Bob Katter) and Shane Knuth were elected as KAP members at the last election and should have better chances.

Three of the four independents were former members of the LNP who left the party after the last election: Alex Douglas and Carl Judge (both of whom also joined and left PUP) and Scott Driscoll. These members may struggle to hold their seats against endorsed LNP candidates.

Liz Cunningham is a long-serving independent who has held her seat of Gladstone since 1995. She should be returned easily.


Cunningham is not running ~ retiring.  Gladstone is a big industrial area.  Should be Labor.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 7th, 2015 at 12:53pm

Cunningham is not running ~ retiring.  Gladstone is a big industrial area.  Should be Labor.


They're cashed up bogans Aussie so I'm not sure, unless there's a good independent to replace Cunningham, I'd say it will go to the libs.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 7th, 2015 at 1:00pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 12:53pm:
Cunningham is not running ~ retiring.  Gladstone is a big industrial area.  Should be Labor.


They're cashed up bogans Aussie so I'm not sure, unless there's a good independent to replace Cunningham, I'd say it will go to the libs.


It is a mixed bag.  Centered on Gladstone, but there is also a pretty big rural chuck around Calliope and similar.  Pre Liz Cunningham, a former Calliope Mayor, it was held by Labor.  I would not ink it in as an LNP certainty.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 7th, 2015 at 4:00pm
Housekeeping only:

Link.


Quote:
Voters Boot Out Newman With Their Cash


(Contains commentary on likely replacement for Newmann if LNP win and he goes down.)


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by life_goes_on on Jan 7th, 2015 at 4:26pm
Can Newman ditch his current seat and instead contest something much easier?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 7th, 2015 at 4:31pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Can Newman ditch his current seat and instead contest something much easier?


Yes he can.....but he has said he won't.  He said yesterday something along the lines of "If I go down, the Team goes down," when asked who his replacement would be if he loses and the LNP get up.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 7th, 2015 at 4:45pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 12:05pm:
Cunningham is not running ~ retiring.  Gladstone is a big industrial area.  Should be Labor.

Thank you for the correction.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by cods on Jan 7th, 2015 at 6:13pm
hey aussie what happened to Anna Palmer>>didnt she win pre selection?? :'(   someone must have found out she didnt have a clue about anything.. ;D ;D

palmer said he had 50 waiting to send Newman into history.. so far I have only counted 12....

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 7th, 2015 at 6:20pm

cods wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
hey aussie what happened to Anna Palmer>>didnt she win pre selection?? :'(   someone must have found out she didnt have a clue about anything.. ;D ;D

palmer said he had 50 waiting to send Newman into history.. so far I have only counted 12....


The Anna Palmer issue was resolved months ago, cods, and was discussed here at the time.

PUP candidate nominations close this coming Friday, so perhaps best to wait until then before you prematurely use up all the emoticons.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 7th, 2015 at 9:45pm
Speaking locally, I sincerely hope (expect) Mr M Pucci, Member for Logan, to lose for the LNP. A former US Marine at high levels in their logistics arena ( ::) )  he is openly contemptuous of his constituents who query him on the Newman govt performance in Logan.

Arrogant and unwilling to talk to all constituents, he typifies this govt. ..I hope his fellows  ( Campbell's TEAM)  lose.

Logan WAS a Labor seat until the last fiasco of an election.  Labor will come back in Logan.

I despise the fortune the Newman government has been spending on media propaganda... its been going on for the last yr..! 
The LNP, (I heard it from MR PUCCI himself) boldly declare, and keep on declaring, that QLD is leading the nation in most , if not all economic factors. 
That is a bald faced lie... but the amount of money they are spending on full page ads, to that effect, in all newspapers and TV is obviously worth it in their eyes. Qld'ers, being as insular as we are.. may well believe the garbage. Shame.
The cost to the people of QLD must be staggering... the pap has been constant and that makes me mad, when they claim they're nearly broke...(bit like the Federal Govt in that respect eh?)

PLUS the ads are SO manipulative..  are we idiots or WHAT?

Guess we'll find out at the election.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:20pm
And another possible convenient ingredient ~ a cyclone.  Entirely possible.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:25pm
Always possible Aussie. Shaping up to be an interesting yr.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:32pm

Emma wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:25pm:
Always possible Aussie. Shaping up to be an interesting yr.


Newmann will be praying for one.

1.  Allows him to be a hero.
2.  Distracts voters.
3.  Will reduce the number who vote.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:35pm
Well.. re the hero thing? 
I think Anna Bligh did a fantastic job dealing with those flood yrs and cyclones... IT didn't make HER a hero tho did it?.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:40pm

Emma wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:35pm:
Well.. re the hero thing? 
I think Anna Bligh did a fantastic job dealing with those flood yrs and cyclones... IT didn't make HER a hero tho did it?.


Not that it mattered at the time, but it gave her a huge boost in the polls.  Newmann knows that.  It is no mere co-incidence he has chosen this time to go to an election.  He is not a dumb political strategist.  He is an astute one......or his advisors are.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by life_goes_on on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:40pm
See that guy who got arrested for wearing the "I'm with stupid" t-shirt at an LNP campaign thingy?
(http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/01/08/14/03/parody-tweeter-arrested-on-queensland-campaign-trail)

I can't imagine that sort of thing happening (the arrest) in any other state other than here in Queensland.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:47pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:40pm:
See that guy who got arrested for wearing the "I'm with stupid" t-shirt at an LNP campaign thingy?
(http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/01/08/14/03/parody-tweeter-arrested-on-queensland-campaign-trail)

I can't imagine that sort of thing happening (the arrest) in any other state other than here in Queensland.


Apparently, he also nudged the LNP wimps and said some weally mean words to them.

Newmann's politicised thugs coppers to the rescue.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:52pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:40pm:
See that guy who got arrested for wearing the "I'm with stupid" t-shirt at an LNP campaign thingy?
(http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/01/08/14/03/parody-tweeter-arrested-on-queensland-campaign-trail)

I can't imagine that sort of thing happening (the arrest) in any other state other than here in Queensland.

Yes, I was reading another article on the incident:

Queensland man arrested after waving next to LNP campaigners in 'I’m with stupid' T-shirt

This is someone who was wearing an "I'm with Stupid" t-shirt while standing next to LNP campaigners. The police response? Three patrol cars and a paddy wagon to arrest someone for "public nuisance".

So much for freedom of speech. This has potential to backfire on the Newman government, badly.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:55pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:40pm:
See that guy who got arrested for wearing the "I'm with stupid" t-shirt at an LNP campaign thingy?
(http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/01/08/14/03/parody-tweeter-arrested-on-queensland-campaign-trail)

I can't imagine that sort of thing happening (the arrest) in any other state other than here in Queensland.


Me either.! >:(  I was not aware of this until your post. How disgusting.
I have to say 'it takes me back to the JOH yrs' .  But that IS what QLD voters are responsible for.

Sadly I think many supporters of Newman are Mexicans,  and have no real IDEA, of what it WAS like,  back then,  nor what this govt represents TODAY.

Queensland is where the shonkiest of the shonks live.  Primo shonks have always been politicians and their cronies,  in this state. Newman is the primest of the prime... at least in public view.  Who knows who is pulling his strings.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:56pm
Here is the person's Twitter account: @Can_do_Campbell

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jan 8th, 2015 at 7:21pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:40pm:
See that guy who got arrested for wearing the "I'm with stupid" t-shirt at an LNP campaign thingy?
(http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/01/08/14/03/parody-tweeter-arrested-on-queensland-campaign-trail)

I can't imagine that sort of thing happening (the arrest) in any other state other than here in Queensland.


disgraceful .... whats next?

Will Newman will begin firebombing houses of tweeters that say anything negative about him?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 8th, 2015 at 7:29pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:40pm:

Emma wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:35pm:
Well.. re the hero thing? 
I think Anna Bligh did a fantastic job dealing with those flood yrs and cyclones... IT didn't make HER a hero tho did it?.


Not that it mattered at the time, but it gave her a huge boost in the polls.  Newmann knows that.  It is no mere co-incidence he has chosen this time to go to an election.  He is not a dumb political strategist.  He is an astute one......or his advisors are.


Well let's hope the cyclones hold off for a few weeks eh?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 8th, 2015 at 7:30pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:40pm:
See that guy who got arrested for wearing the "I'm with stupid" t-shirt at an LNP campaign thingy?
(http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/01/08/14/03/parody-tweeter-arrested-on-queensland-campaign-trail)

I can't imagine that sort of thing happening (the arrest) in any other state other than here in Queensland.


disgraceful .... whats next?

Will Newman will begin firebombing houses of tweeters that say anything negative about him?

That's not his style. He prefers jackboots and goose stepping.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Kat on Jan 8th, 2015 at 7:31pm

Bam wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:52pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:40pm:
See that guy who got arrested for wearing the "I'm with stupid" t-shirt at an LNP campaign thingy?
(http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/01/08/14/03/parody-tweeter-arrested-on-queensland-campaign-trail)

I can't imagine that sort of thing happening (the arrest) in any other state other than here in Queensland.

Yes, I was reading another article on the incident:

Queensland man arrested after waving next to LNP campaigners in 'I’m with stupid' T-shirt

This is someone who was wearing an "I'm with Stupid" t-shirt while standing next to LNP campaigners. The police response? Three patrol cars and a paddy wagon to arrest someone for "public nuisance".

So much for freedom of speech. This has potential to backfire on the Newman government, badly.



AS it should.

Badly.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 8th, 2015 at 7:35pm

Emma wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 7:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:40pm:

Emma wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:35pm:
Well.. re the hero thing? 
I think Anna Bligh did a fantastic job dealing with those flood yrs and cyclones... IT didn't make HER a hero tho did it?.


Not that it mattered at the time, but it gave her a huge boost in the polls.  Newmann knows that.  It is no mere co-incidence he has chosen this time to go to an election.  He is not a dumb political strategist.  He is an astute one......or his advisors are.


Well let's hope the cyclones hold off for a few weeks eh?


AND lets hope that people remember they chucked Bligh out because there was an idea or two that didn't sit well with QLD'ers.  Yet Newman came to office and proceeded to put in place many of those vote-losing ideas.
Lets hope , at least in this, the Qld voter will be consistent and reject these fascist actions.

Things discussed by Labor - back then.  Things done by Newman.

How vacuous, ignorant, and propagandised are we?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 8th, 2015 at 10:24pm
what ? 3 hrs and no reply????????

ooooooooooh ... jeez  ....  maybe the secret 'special branch' has got to you subversives. :o :o

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by life_goes_on on Jan 8th, 2015 at 10:50pm
After having lived here for a few years, I've gotta say that up here they probably deserve someone like Newman and the LNP.

The whitewashing of Joh started years ago - as the Beattie government became stale.

The modernisation of the various arms of government and the general thinking of the Qld populace has never gotten close to the other states. There's still a huge collective chip on Queenslander's shoulders when any comparison to the southern states is introduced to an argument.

We deserve another term or two under Campbell.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 8th, 2015 at 11:04pm
I notice you say you have lived here for some yrs  (not v long obviously) because you say THEY deserve it.  Then you say WE.  Did you vote for Newman Team? Bet you did. Mexican, just like I said.

well You might think its deserved,  but I don't agree. Once is enough surely. Perhaps not tho. If we haven't learned the lesson.

I get your point.  Feckless knuckleheads might deserve an extra punishing, if they voted for him before, however I don't deserve it.!!!!!!!!

I did live here in the Joh yrs.  Did you.? If you did, and were not sympatico with the regime,  you would understand my point.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by life_goes_on on Jan 8th, 2015 at 11:15pm
Vote?
me?
That's something I haven't done for a very long time.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 8th, 2015 at 11:28pm
ahhhhh .. another shead who has no validity.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 9th, 2015 at 6:25pm
from the silence I must consider that all the supporters of the govt of Newman.. DON'T VOTE.

What fheads...  you have the audacity to come on here and spray it around, when you don't even bother to vote.  Perhaps there are reasons why..Hmm?  Don't want to be on the Electoral Roll, perhaps?

Dishonest could be the word. Just like Newman . 

Flock together don't you..?  Birds of a Feather. :P

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by life_goes_on on Jan 9th, 2015 at 6:31pm
You're completely Batsh!t crazy, Emma.

You gathered from my posts I'm either a Newman or LNP supporter?


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 9th, 2015 at 6:50pm
No I didn't say that.
I said 'from the silence I must consider that all the supporters of the govt of Newman.. DON'T VOTE'.

Why?  'Cos no-one else had anything to say. ;D

Try reading with comprehension.

Obviously if you don't vote you are not , as such, a supporter.  ::)

But, what I said?  Birds of a Feather flock together..??  that means I think you exist on the same ethical level as , say , Newman and cronies.

You are simply,  a similar type of bird.  You may not participate , up front,  by voting, but you have no problems offering your opinion, when it is, in fact, irrelevant. 

Well, you are welcome to your opinions.  But don't expect to go unchallenged. Fair enough?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 10th, 2015 at 11:58pm
just seen again an LNP advert (seen inumerable times before) claiming QLD is 'on track' and leading the nation in economic goodies.  ::) ::) :P

Its the one which ends with the warning that nothing can be certain in these times ..so vote for us 'cos WE  are leading the country.  What a pile of rubbish propaganda.

I just had to write this.. 'cos it irks me that no-one seems to care that the LNP are spending so much money on LIES, to get your vote.   LIES ..yep.. that's right people.  >:(

Lies that many ignorant and/or self-interested  Qlders will embrace.
Totally sickening.  :P :P

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 11th, 2015 at 12:05am

Emma wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 11:58pm:
it irks me that no-one seems to care that the LNP are spending so much money on LIES, to get your vote.

"We're Not Waiting For The World" - slogan of the Liberal party in the 1983 Federal election campaign

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 11th, 2015 at 12:40am
well I'd have to say that was a masterful comment  - just a bit too enigmatic 'cos I don't get your reference.
I wasn't very interested in politics in 1983. Care to expand on  it?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 11th, 2015 at 12:12pm

Emma wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 12:40am:
well I'd have to say that was a masterful comment  - just a bit too enigmatic 'cos I don't get your reference.
I wasn't very interested in politics in 1983. Care to expand on  it?

The 1983 election was contested when Australia had double-digit unemployment, double-digit inflation, double-digit interest rates and Australia was still emerging from the worst recession since the Great Depression. Bob Hawke summed it up best during the campaign when he said "We're not waiting for the world. The world has left us far behind."

Being loose with the truth is something the Liberals do rather often in campaigns.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:10pm
no argument from me on that Bam.

Newman  'promises' to create 200000 new jobs!?  ::) Please spare us your lies No Can Do Newman! >:(

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 12:39am

Emma wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 11:58pm:
just seen again an LNP advert (seen inumerable times before) claiming QLD is 'on track' and leading the nation in economic goodies.  ::) ::) :P

Its the one which ends with the warning that nothing can be certain in these times ..so vote for us 'cos WE  are leading the country.  What a pile of rubbish propaganda.

I just had to write this.. 'cos it irks me that no-one seems to care that the LNP are spending so much money on LIES, to get your vote.   LIES ..yep.. that's right people.  >:(

Lies that many ignorant and/or self-interested  Qlders will embrace.
Totally sickening.  :P :P

No, i cant beleive it. politicians lying.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 12th, 2015 at 12:56am
well you can't spell, so who cares what you believe.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:26am
Here is a link to the ABC's coverage of the Queensland election.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 12th, 2015 at 12:15pm
There are 2 chances of Unemployment levels going down, over the next few years.

That pertains, not just in Queensland, but pretty much Globally and those chances are -
1) None
2) Bukley's

In fact, the major Factors driving the Global & Local Economies would suggest it is very likely that Unemployment is set to spike higher!

So, if any Politician suggests otherwise, you can safely "THROW THAT PROMISE" in the "PORKIES BIN"!!!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:58pm

perceptions_now wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 12:15pm:
There are 2 chances of Unemployment levels going down, over the next few years.

That pertains, not just in Queensland, but pretty much Globally and those chances are -
1) None
2) Bukley's

In fact, the major Factors driving the Global & Local Economies would suggest it is very likely that Unemployment is set to spike higher!

So, if any Politician suggests otherwise, you can safely "THROW THAT PROMISE" in the "PORKIES BIN"!!!


That is an issue which is gonna bite against Newmann big time.  Having said that......it seems like it is a "manana" election at the moment.  Nothing is happening.  PUP has nothing on TV even though there have been effective enough media interviews.  No shots from anywhere apart from a fizzer ad on TV from the Libs.  No-one wants to rock the boat at the moment.  Probably a good idea for Newmann, but it cannot last.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:26pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:58pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 12:15pm:
There are 2 chances of Unemployment levels going down, over the next few years.

That pertains, not just in Queensland, but pretty much Globally and those chances are -
1) None
2) Bukley's

In fact, the major Factors driving the Global & Local Economies would suggest it is very likely that Unemployment is set to spike higher!

So, if any Politician suggests otherwise, you can safely "THROW THAT PROMISE" in the "PORKIES BIN"!!!


That is an issue which is gonna bite against Newmann big time.  Having said that......it seems like it is a "manana" election at the moment.  Nothing is happening.  PUP has nothing on TV even though there have been effective enough media interviews.  No shots from anywhere apart from a fizzer ad on TV from the Libs.  No-one wants to rock the boat at the moment.  Probably a good idea for Newmann, but it cannot last.



I saw two ads from PUP. I only remember the one where Gillard, Rudd, Abbott and other pollies saying 'Clive' or  'Palmer" the rest of the clip is erased. At the end he says something like the name on everybody's lips blah blah blah.....it's quite catchy...well! it shows he's still got the humour gene.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:29pm
Yes Dame Pansi.....it was a bit silly of me to make that comment, given I almost exclusively watch the ABC.  I'll see if I can find them on YouTube.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:28pm
you know, though campbell is a dill, WTF is wrong with the labor party putting up that uncharismatic, annoying , snarly whiney woman as their leader??

seriously labor,  95 % of the checkout operators at my local woolies are more attractive and more eloquent.

is miss palashet related to christine milne by chance.
did they serve tuckshop together , before heading off to play the pokies and watch the afternoon soaps .
the standard of our leaders just continues to bemuse me

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:33pm
WOW!!!!!!!!! He is a slap in the face....a huge one, but not from an unexpected source ~ (Anti-Corruption Champion Supreme Court Judge Retired) Tony Fitzgerald.  He has never been coy about his outright condemnation of Newmann/Bleijei and he does not miss them here either.  He also makes casual reference to the ALP (almost by default) but the anti Newmann/LNP thrust is quite obvious.

Link.


Quote:
the premier, Campbell Newman, and attorney general, Jarrod Bleijie, did not have the “slightest knowledge or understanding” about an impartial legal system and how it should be run.

“In practical terms, power has been substantially transferred to a small, cynical, political class, mostly professional politicians who represent, and act as directed by, one of the two major political parties which have entrenched themselves and their standards in the political system and collectively dominate political discussion and control the political process,” he wrote in notes handed out to the audience at the Griffith University school of criminology’s third biennial lecture in Brisbane on Wednesday.



Quote:
He criticised Queensland’s Liberal National Party (LNP) government and the Courier-Mail newspaper, saying both were taking the state back to a “dark past” and treating voters like fools.

He referred to the skirmishes between the judiciary and the Newman government after lawyers and judges criticised the controversial bikie laws and the Newman government appointed a chief justice the legal community did not approve of.

“The opinions of people who have spent their professional lives implementing an impartial legal system in accordance with the rule of law and grappling with the complex problems associated with criminal justice were patronisingly dismissed by the premier and attorney general, neither of whom has the slightest knowledge or understanding of those matters,” he said.





Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:39pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:29pm:
Yes Dame Pansi.....it was a bit silly of me to make that comment, given I almost exclusively watch the ABC.  I'll see if I can find them on YouTube.


Ok, I've seen one by Newman, just his ugly self spruiking bs, full of outright lies (as Emma has pointed out in another thread) but I don't think I've seen Labor's yet....are they asleep?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:44pm

Quote:
uncharismatic, annoying, snarly whiney woman as their leader??



Quote:
more attractive


How ever so misogynisticly jolly!  You obviously approach these matters without stereotype bigotry.  Well done.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:45pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:39pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:29pm:
Yes Dame Pansi.....it was a bit silly of me to make that comment, given I almost exclusively watch the ABC.  I'll see if I can find them on YouTube.


Ok, I've seen one by Newman, just his ugly self spruiking bs, full of outright lies (as Emma has pointed out in another thread) but I don't think I've seen Labor's yet....are they asleep?


Just saw a PUP ad on Ch. 9.  Very good.  "Goodbye Campbell Newmann!"

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:18pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:39pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:29pm:
Yes Dame Pansi.....it was a bit silly of me to make that comment, given I almost exclusively watch the ABC.  I'll see if I can find them on YouTube.


Ok, I've seen one by Newman, just his ugly self spruiking bs, full of outright lies (as Emma has pointed out in another thread) but I don't think I've seen Labor's yet....are they asleep?


Just saw a PUP ad on Ch. 9.  Very good.  "Goodbye Campbell Newmann!"



was it clive in all his glory?? OMG the thought at least we dont get it here they would have to X rate it if its on before 12o/c...how can you look at that piggy bloated face and body and not squirm I dont know

he is the epitome of everything that is wrong with this country..a big fat bloated its all about me person...arrogant rude and dismissive.,..disgusting individual.uses any power he has to benefit piggy..

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:27pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

Quote:
uncharismatic, annoying, snarly whiney woman as their leader??


[quote]more attractive


How ever so misogynisticly jolly!  You obviously approach these matters without stereotype bigotry.  Well done.[/quote]


I'm just trying to help the dufus's  ;)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:09pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:33pm:
WOW!!!!!!!!! He is a slap in the face....a huge one, but not from an unexpected source ~ (Anti-Corruption Champion Supreme Court Judge Retired) Tony Fitzgerald.  He has never been coy about his outright condemnation of Newmann/Bleijei and he does not miss them here either.  He also makes casual reference to the ALP (almost by default) but the anti Newmann/LNP thrust is quite obvious.

Link.


Quote:
the premier, Campbell Newman, and attorney general, Jarrod Bleijie, did not have the “slightest knowledge or understanding” about an impartial legal system and how it should be run.

“In practical terms, power has been substantially transferred to a small, cynical, political class, mostly professional politicians who represent, and act as directed by, one of the two major political parties which have entrenched themselves and their standards in the political system and collectively dominate political discussion and control the political process,” he wrote in notes handed out to the audience at the Griffith University school of criminology’s third biennial lecture in Brisbane on Wednesday.


[quote]He criticised Queensland’s Liberal National Party (LNP) government and the Courier-Mail newspaper, saying both were taking the state back to a “dark past” and treating voters like fools.

He referred to the skirmishes between the judiciary and the Newman government after lawyers and judges criticised the controversial bikie laws and the Newman government appointed a chief justice the legal community did not approve of.

“The opinions of people who have spent their professional lives implementing an impartial legal system in accordance with the rule of law and grappling with the complex problems associated with criminal justice were patronisingly dismissed by the premier and attorney general, neither of whom has the slightest knowledge or understanding of those matters,” he said.




[/quote]



Truer words have not been spoken. 
This govt is only a government  in name. Not in action. It is in fact a cabal..made up of many like minded crooks.

  This state seems to revel in being the home of the shonks. This Govt in Qld is an example of BAD government.

But the uninformed still prattle out the verbal garbage they are fed by media. Proud to be a Queenslander.! ? NO not really.
Most Born-here Qlder's 'll bristle.!! 

But face it kids . in the last election you were bought off by lies ..and some sad parochial mindset that seems exclusive to BQ (born in Qld) 

The policies of Newman and cronies are actually the anathema to good government.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:21pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

Quote:
uncharismatic, annoying, snarly whiney woman as their leader??


[quote]more attractive


How ever so misogynisticly jolly!  You obviously approach these matters without stereotype bigotry.  Well done.[/quote]

I'll add to Aussie's comment. Thank you Aquascoot for the depth (not) you bring to this debate.
Perhaps you think Anna P (OK I can't spell it off the top of my head)   should follow the slime trail left by Julie Bishop, ? 
She ( Bishop) has obviously spent huge amounts of money on body work.  The spak-filla, the wet & dry,  the tucks and the plumpings. ??  The fashionista make-over ..  and a successful one, I guess.  If you like plastic people with plastic morals.

No I prefer a REAL person, not Plastic Puppet.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Jan 13th, 2015 at 6:42am

Emma wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:21pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

Quote:
uncharismatic, annoying, snarly whiney woman as their leader??


[quote]more attractive


How ever so misogynisticly jolly!  You obviously approach these matters without stereotype bigotry.  Well done.


I'll add to Aussie's comment. Thank you Aquascoot for the depth (not) you bring to this debate.
Perhaps you think Anna P (OK I can't spell it off the top of my head)   should follow the slime trail left by Julie Bishop, ? 
She ( Bishop) has obviously spent huge amounts of money on body work.  The spak-filla, the wet & dry,  the tucks and the plumpings. ??  The fashionista make-over ..  and a successful one, I guess.  If you like plastic people with plastic morals.

No I prefer a REAL person, not Plastic Puppet. [/quote]


Miss Palochet should definitely seek out Miss Bishops stylist. Theres votes in it and this is politics after all

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 13th, 2015 at 12:54pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 6:42am:

Emma wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:21pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

Quote:
uncharismatic, annoying, snarly whiney woman as their leader??


[quote]more attractive


How ever so misogynisticly jolly!  You obviously approach these matters without stereotype bigotry.  Well done.


I'll add to Aussie's comment. Thank you Aquascoot for the depth (not) you bring to this debate.
Perhaps you think Anna P (OK I can't spell it off the top of my head)   should follow the slime trail left by Julie Bishop, ? 
She ( Bishop) has obviously spent huge amounts of money on body work.  The spak-filla, the wet & dry,  the tucks and the plumpings. ??  The fashionista make-over ..  and a successful one, I guess.  If you like plastic people with plastic morals.

No I prefer a REAL person, not Plastic Puppet.



Miss Palochet should definitely seek out Miss Bishops stylist. Theres votes in it and this is politics after all[/quote]


How shallow and false would you have to be to vote for someone's hairstyle?.......right wing shallow, I guess. I hope Anastasia's constituents are real people with scars, moles, birthmarks, warts, wrinkles, crooked teeth and any other natural human body feature that they may have.....real people, not wannabe Barbie dolls.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 13th, 2015 at 6:30pm
It really is bye bye Campbell Newmann, and if he is right about 'if I go so, does the team' then the LNP is gone as well.  I doubt that, but I reckon the longer the LNP leave the question 'Who will be Premier when Newmann loses Ashgrove," the closer it gets to the LNP losing in what would be the most bizarre political turn-around ever.

Link.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:12pm
the drivel continues.. Newman says he'll fix the roads.... just as long as he gets to  'lease' assets. It's not a commitment, its a form of blackmail, and manipulation, designed to instil fear as to the states ability to maintain its own infrastructure,  if we don't SELL, thru them as agents..

Lies, fear tactics, seen it all before.

But I fearthey'll be returned.  :(

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:02pm
rumour has it the liberal backers are making moves to position Springborg for the top job again ...

no wonder newman doesn't want anyone to know :D :D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:04pm
Anyone can work it out.  If you do not have profit from 'trading,' and you need to use capital to prop up your business over an extended period, you are stuffed.  Eventually, you run out of capital....assets to sell......and what then?  That's where Newmann is, and he does not care about the 'what then,' because it will be someone else's problem.

This is when Andrei comes along, does the voodoo and explains where the magic milions come from.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:19am

Aussie wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
Anyone can work it out.  If you do not have profit from 'trading,' and you need to use capital to prop up your business over an extended period, you are stuffed.  Eventually, you run out of capital....assets to sell......and what then?  That's where Newmann is, and he does not care about the 'what then,' because it will be someone else's problem.

This is when Andrei comes along, does the voodoo and explains where the magic milions come from.


I would hope anyone could work that out Aussie,  but we are talking about people in a bubble..  who can't actually think for themselves.  Just listen to any QLD MP.

Of course,  this 'idea' was one of the things that lost Bligh the last election.  Can Newman now win.. with that idea.?

That will surely show the depth and mettle of the QLD public.  This is a crucial election, in that respect.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:21am

Emma wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:19am:

Aussie wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
Anyone can work it out.  If you do not have profit from 'trading,' and you need to use capital to prop up your business over an extended period, you are stuffed.  Eventually, you run out of capital....assets to sell......and what then?  That's where Newmann is, and he does not care about the 'what then,' because it will be someone else's problem.

This is when Andrei comes along, does the voodoo and explains where the magic milions come from.


I would hope anyone could work that out Aussie,  but we are talking about people in a bubble..  who can't actually think for themselves.  Just listen to any QLD MP.

Of course,  this 'idea' was one of the things that lost Bligh the last election.  Can Newman now win.. with that idea.?

That will surely show the depth and mettle of the QLD public.  This is a crucial election, in that respect.



Eventually, you run out of capital....assets to sell......and what then?

WELL?  you do what Abbott has done... and sell most everything off to CHINA. Simple Yep.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:31am
Oh and while I'm on.. have you seen the latest propaganda... I've seen it a number of times in the last two days. 

ADANI.. the company that will make us all rich.

That is  Adani .   The INDIAN POWER  coy that is intimately involved in the massive proposal to expand the shipping facilities in and through the Great Barrier Reef.

SO GOOD FOR US,,  WTF?   :(

Yep they're going tp provide QLD with 10.000 apprentice jobs, massive fee payments, GST ..  stamp duty and countless other benefits.. or somesuch bullcrap. >:( >:(


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by ian on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:41am
prediction - Newman government returned

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:40am

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:41am:
prediction - Newman government returned


Indeed, Miss Palozchet  is unelectable in her current "best and less" attire , with that woeful hairdo and her current $2 shop blusher and eye liner.
One of the snappier dressers from Labor should have helped her out. surely Wong could have found her a nice business suit. She actually looks to be wearing Christine Milnes hand-me-downs

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 14th, 2015 at 9:28am

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:41am:
prediction - Newman government returned


Quite the gambling huge risk taker aren't you.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by ian on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:22am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:40am:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:41am:
prediction - Newman government returned


Indeed, Miss Palozchet  is unelectable in her current "best and less" attire , with that woeful hairdo and her current $2 shop blusher and eye liner.
One of the snappier dressers from Labor should have helped her out. surely Wong could have found her a nice business suit. She actually looks to be wearing Christine Milnes hand-me-downs
i beleive this to be true. Some like Aussie believe the electorate all to be rocket scientists analysing the governments  performance , promises etc etc. The truth is the majority of the voters are extremely shallow and given that only relatively minor swings are need to retain or change government politicians appearance and how they perfom and look in the media matter greatly. Remember John Howard and his makeover?  Im convinced that won the election for him, Australian voters are extremely shallow. And unless the labour party dumps Shorten they havent a hope in hell federally either.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:37am

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:22am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:40am:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:41am:
prediction - Newman government returned


Indeed, Miss Palozchet  is unelectable in her current "best and less" attire , with that woeful hairdo and her current $2 shop blusher and eye liner.
One of the snappier dressers from Labor should have helped her out. surely Wong could have found her a nice business suit. She actually looks to be wearing Christine Milnes hand-me-downs
i beleive this to be true. Some like Aussie believe the electorate all to be rocket scientists analysing the governments  performance , promises etc etc. The truth is the majority of the voters are extremely shallow and given that only relatively minor swings are need to retain or change government politicians appearance and how they perfom and look in the media matter greatly. Remember John Howard and his makeover?  Im convinced that won the election for him, Australian voters are extremely shallow. And unless the labour party dumps Shorten they havent a hope in hell federally either.



shallower than a puddle.  I doubt miss polazchet would be recognised in her local supermarket by anyone.
Christ, i'm on a political forum site and I didn't know what she looked like til I saw her on telly a few nights ago.
I thought she was just some random shopper the journo was asking questions to.
wouldn't have made the local state school debating team.
Brand Bland.   
like being served rice with tomato sauce at a wedding reception

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:40am

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:22am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:40am:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:41am:
prediction - Newman government returned


Indeed, Miss Palozchet  is unelectable in her current "best and less" attire , with that woeful hairdo and her current $2 shop blusher and eye liner.
One of the snappier dressers from Labor should have helped her out. surely Wong could have found her a nice business suit. She actually looks to be wearing Christine Milnes hand-me-downs
i beleive this to be true. Some like Aussie believe the electorate all to be rocket scientists analysing the governments  performance , promises etc etc. The truth is the majority of the voters are extremely shallow and given that only relatively minor swings are need to retain or change government politicians appearance and how they perfom and look in the media matter greatly. Remember John Howard and his makeover?  Im convinced that won the election for him, Australian voters are extremely shallow. And unless the labour party dumps Shorten they havent a hope in hell federally either.


Ian, you seem ignorant of basic facts concerning the state of Queensland.  The ALP has 9 seats and I think the Libs have about 70.  There is nothing marginal about this election.  The ALP face an impossible task, but if they get close, they will have delivered a huge blow to Newmann and Abbott.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by ian on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:48am

Aussie wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:40am:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:22am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:40am:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:41am:
prediction - Newman government returned


Indeed, Miss Palozchet  is unelectable in her current "best and less" attire , with that woeful hairdo and her current $2 shop blusher and eye liner.
One of the snappier dressers from Labor should have helped her out. surely Wong could have found her a nice business suit. She actually looks to be wearing Christine Milnes hand-me-downs
i beleive this to be true. Some like Aussie believe the electorate all to be rocket scientists analysing the governments  performance , promises etc etc. The truth is the majority of the voters are extremely shallow and given that only relatively minor swings are need to retain or change government politicians appearance and how they perfom and look in the media matter greatly. Remember John Howard and his makeover?  Im convinced that won the election for him, Australian voters are extremely shallow. And unless the labour party dumps Shorten they havent a hope in hell federally either.


Ian, you seem ignorant of basic facts concerning the state of Queensland.  The ALP has 9 seats and I think the Libs have about 70.  There is nothing marginal about this election.  The ALP face an impossible task, but if they get close, they will have delivered a huge blow to Newmann and Abbott.

to be honest, i was ignorant of that. i wondered about that risk taker comment.  I only look at pollies media performance these days, seems to be the only thing which matters to the electorate. I still dont see any big swing against him. The LNP in general are quite adept at only making political decisions which affect the people who dont vote for them anyway.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:01am

Aussie wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:40am:
Ian, you seem ignorant of basic facts concerning the state of Queensland.  The ALP has 9 seats and I think the Libs have about 70.  There is nothing marginal about this election.  The ALP face an impossible task, but if they get close, they will have delivered a huge blow to Newmann and Abbott.

The main thing holding the ALP back at the moment is a lack of talented people in the Parliament. The current members are fine, but there are simply not enough of them. Who are the Ministers going to be? People who aren't in parliament right now.

The ALP won't win, but they will be in a much stronger position once the composition of their front bench is decided at the ballot box.

The LNP are not without their own problems. Who will be Premier if Newman loses his seat?

I cannot recall any election where there was so much uncertainty about the senior Ministers of both sides.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:36am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:40am:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:41am:
prediction - Newman government returned


Indeed, Miss Palozchet  is unelectable in her current "best and less" attire , with that woeful hairdo and her current $2 shop blusher and eye liner.
One of the snappier dressers from Labor should have helped her out. surely Wong could have found her a nice business suit. She actually looks to be wearing Christine Milnes hand-me-downs



Only an egotistical snob would think that way and Labor voters don't fall into that category.

Shallow people vote for Vogue wannabe's, grounded folk vote for principles and ideals.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:31pm
Newmann before the last State election:


Quote:
Newman: "There are many dedicated men and women in the public service - do not be afraid of me" He went on to immediately sack 20,000 people in the public service. Newman said: "All public servants in the Queensland should look forward to a bright and rewarding future with the LNP" - thats 20,000 public servants without an income as soon as he came to power.
Put a stop to this rubbish


It is the text to a PUP TV ad.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by ian on Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:41pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:36am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:40am:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:41am:
prediction - Newman government returned


Indeed, Miss Palozchet  is unelectable in her current "best and less" attire , with that woeful hairdo and her current $2 shop blusher and eye liner.
One of the snappier dressers from Labor should have helped her out. surely Wong could have found her a nice business suit. She actually looks to be wearing Christine Milnes hand-me-downs



Only an egotistical snob would think that way and Labor voters don't fall into that category.

Shallow people vote for Vogue wannabe's, grounded folk vote for principles and ideals.
you havent noticed that the vast majority of Australian voters are shallow ? they vote only in their own self interest, Howard understood that very well on a federal level.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:55pm

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:41pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:36am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:40am:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:41am:
prediction - Newman government returned


Indeed, Miss Palozchet  is unelectable in her current "best and less" attire , with that woeful hairdo and her current $2 shop blusher and eye liner.
One of the snappier dressers from Labor should have helped her out. surely Wong could have found her a nice business suit. She actually looks to be wearing Christine Milnes hand-me-downs



Only an egotistical snob would think that way and Labor voters don't fall into that category.

Shallow people vote for Vogue wannabe's, grounded folk vote for principles and ideals.
you havent noticed that the vast majority of Australian voters are shallow ? they vote only in their own self interest, Howard understood that very well on a federal level.



Not exactly shallow, just sheeples. Most Australian voters wouldn't even know what's good for them, that's why we've got the scum government that we have.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by ian on Jan 14th, 2015 at 3:20pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:55pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:41pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:36am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:40am:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:41am:
prediction - Newman government returned


Indeed, Miss Palozchet  is unelectable in her current "best and less" attire , with that woeful hairdo and her current $2 shop blusher and eye liner.
One of the snappier dressers from Labor should have helped her out. surely Wong could have found her a nice business suit. She actually looks to be wearing Christine Milnes hand-me-downs



Only an egotistical snob would think that way and Labor voters don't fall into that category.

Shallow people vote for Vogue wannabe's, grounded folk vote for principles and ideals.
you havent noticed that the vast majority of Australian voters are shallow ? they vote only in their own self interest, Howard understood that very well on a federal level.



Not exactly shallow, just sheeples. Most Australian voters wouldn't even know what's good for them, that's why we've got the scum government that we have.
The only reason we now have this massive problem with middle class welfare is because Howard used it to buy votes by appealing to peoples greed and sense of self entitlement, in fact thats what both parties have been about since after Keating.  The only thing which is going to sort this country out is a massive recession. Oh how I miss Keating, the smartest and most honourable PM we have ever had and the people kicked him out for being so.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Jan 14th, 2015 at 3:25pm

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 3:20pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:55pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:41pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:36am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:40am:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:41am:
prediction - Newman government returned


Indeed, Miss Palozchet  is unelectable in her current "best and less" attire , with that woeful hairdo and her current $2 shop blusher and eye liner.
One of the snappier dressers from Labor should have helped her out. surely Wong could have found her a nice business suit. She actually looks to be wearing Christine Milnes hand-me-downs



Only an egotistical snob would think that way and Labor voters don't fall into that category.

Shallow people vote for Vogue wannabe's, grounded folk vote for principles and ideals.
you havent noticed that the vast majority of Australian voters are shallow ? they vote only in their own self interest, Howard understood that very well on a federal level.



Not exactly shallow, just sheeples. Most Australian voters wouldn't even know what's good for them, that's why we've got the scum government that we have.
The only reason we now have this massive problem with middle class welfare is because Howard used it to buy votes by appealing to peoples greed and sense of self entitlement, in fact thats what both parties have been about since after Keating.  The only thing which is going to sort this country out is a massive recession. Oh how I miss Keating, the smartest and most honourable PM we have ever had and the people kicked him out for being so.



Its not smart to be honourably kicked out.
Its smart to be sneakily voted in.
I admire smart...its a bankable commodity.
think of it this way, I want smart and sneaky when dealing with those pesky "free trade agreements"  theres one example

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Jan 14th, 2015 at 3:29pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:36am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:40am:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:41am:
prediction - Newman government returned


Indeed, Miss Palozchet  is unelectable in her current "best and less" attire , with that woeful hairdo and her current $2 shop blusher and eye liner.
One of the snappier dressers from Labor should have helped her out. surely Wong could have found her a nice business suit. She actually looks to be wearing Christine Milnes hand-me-downs



Only an egotistical snob would think that way and Labor voters don't fall into that category.

Shallow people vote for Vogue wannabe's, grounded folk vote for principles and ideals.



who are labor voters these days...shop stewards at the CFMEU ?
those pesky greens stole all the tree huggers and John howard stole all the suburban bogans.

AND MISS PALOZCHET should change her name to something aussie and easier to spell, and go get a facial ( and no, don't get a facial at KFC miss P.)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:35pm
Nine things you probably didn’t know about the Queensland election
* One high-profile arrest is not enough around election time in Queensland
* The premier is fighting a defamation lawsuit
* The economy is not an albatross around the government’s neck
* Trying to pronounce Annastacia Palaszczuk’s surname phonetically will get you nowhere
* The fake Tahitian prince
* Pauline Hanson is back
* Police and politics don’t always mix
* Preferencing One Nation last is not straightforward for Labor
* 98,980 letters in the seat of Ashgrove, paid for by sand miner Sibelco, helped Newman win at the last election

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 14th, 2015 at 8:08pm

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 3:20pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:55pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:41pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:36am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:40am:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:41am:
prediction - Newman government returned


Indeed, Miss Palozchet  is unelectable in her current "best and less" attire , with that woeful hairdo and her current $2 shop blusher and eye liner.
One of the snappier dressers from Labor should have helped her out. surely Wong could have found her a nice business suit. She actually looks to be wearing Christine Milnes hand-me-downs



Only an egotistical snob would think that way and Labor voters don't fall into that category.

Shallow people vote for Vogue wannabe's, grounded folk vote for principles and ideals.
you havent noticed that the vast majority of Australian voters are shallow ? they vote only in their own self interest, Howard understood that very well on a federal level.



Not exactly shallow, just sheeples. Most Australian voters wouldn't even know what's good for them, that's why we've got the scum government that we have.
The only reason we now have this massive problem with middle class welfare is because Howard used it to buy votes by appealing to peoples greed and sense of self entitlement, in fact thats what both parties have been about since after Keating.  The only thing which is going to sort this country out is a massive recession. Oh how I miss Keating, the smartest and most honourable PM we have ever had and the people kicked him out for being so.


Good grief.. I actually agree with you about Keating.!!!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:48pm

Emma wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:31am:
Oh and while I'm on.. have you seen the latest propaganda... I've seen it a number of times in the last two days. 

ADANI.. the company that will make us all rich.

That is  Adani .   The INDIAN POWER  coy that is intimately involved in the massive proposal to expand the shipping facilities in and through the Great Barrier Reef.

SO GOOD FOR US,,  WTF?   :(

Yep they're going tp provide QLD with 10.000 apprentice jobs, massive fee payments, GST ..  stamp duty and countless other benefits.. or somesuch bullcrap. >:( >:(


Frankly folks I'm surprised no-one has added to my comment about Adani.  You do know don't you,  that it is the Indian company which is driving massive expansions to the shipping through the Great Barrier Reef. The ones who want to build a massive addition to an already existing environmental disaster..
The REASON why the WORLD HERITAGE status,  the protected status of the Great Barrier Reef is under extreme threat from GREED.   OH and of course the NEED  for Coal , and GAS.

Think of what could be achieved if all this money went into renewable energy.  To me, it's a no-brainer. But to Newman and Team.. it means MONEY. 

JOBS?  just a handy excuse for pillaging and raping one of the worlds wonders.

Shame. SHAME.

And lets not forget how Newman and Team have allowed new developments to proceed,  by BIG COYs, in fragile eco-systems, and koala habitats. By winding back Vegetation Protection law, they are directly responsible.  NO question there at all. 
The only people to really profit from Newman policies..???

His mates ..and multi-nationals.
IT IS A CRIME. 

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Jan 15th, 2015 at 6:14am

Emma wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:48pm:

Emma wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 12:31am:
Oh and while I'm on.. have you seen the latest propaganda... I've seen it a number of times in the last two days. 

ADANI.. the company that will make us all rich.

That is  Adani .   The INDIAN POWER  coy that is intimately involved in the massive proposal to expand the shipping facilities in and through the Great Barrier Reef.

SO GOOD FOR US,,  WTF?   :(

Yep they're going tp provide QLD with 10.000 apprentice jobs, massive fee payments, GST ..  stamp duty and countless other benefits.. or somesuch bullcrap. >:( >:(


Frankly folks I'm surprised no-one has added to my comment about Adani.  You do know don't you,  that it is the Indian company which is driving massive expansions to the shipping through the Great Barrier Reef. The ones who want to build a massive addition to an already existing environmental disaster..
The REASON why the WORLD HERITAGE status,  the protected status of the Great Barrier Reef is under extreme threat from GREED.   OH and of course the NEED  for Coal , and GAS.

Think of what could be achieved if all this money went into renewable energy.  To me, it's a no-brainer. But to Newman and Team.. it means MONEY. 

JOBS?  just a handy excuse for pillaging and raping one of the worlds wonders.

Shame. SHAME.

And lets not forget how Newman and Team have allowed new developments to proceed,  by BIG COYs, in fragile eco-systems, and koala habitats. By winding back Vegetation Protection law, they are directly responsible.  NO question there at all. 
The only people to really profit from Newman policies..???

His mates ..and multi-nationals.
IT IS A CRIME. 



People such as yourself and pansi need to look up "gratitude" in the dictionary.
If it wasn't for the sweat and toil of the gas and coal miners earning income to be given to YOU, you would both be eating grass for dinner with a side serving of dirt.
Grow up

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 15th, 2015 at 8:19am
Newmann still well behind in Ashgrove.

Link.


Quote:
MORE people plan on voting for Kate Jones over Campbell Newman in Ashgrove - but voters in the electorate still think the Premier will win.

A Seven News commissioned ReachTEL poll of 847 Ashgrove voters on January 13 and found 47.6 per cent planned on putting the former Labor MP and Minister first on the ballot on January 31.

Mr Newman claimed 43.7 per cent of first preferences, up 3 per cent since the last poll in December, while the vote for Ms Jones has stayed fairly stable.

Based on the 2012 preference distribution, that would give Labor a 53 per cent to 47 per cent lead over the LNP for the seat.

But when asked who they thought would win, regardless of their own voting intention, Mr Newman was the winner, 51.4 per cent to 48.6 per cent.


A 6% gap is healthy for the ALPs Kate Jones, but the fat lady does not sing until the 31st January.

So.....who will be leader if the likely event Newmann loses?  An oaf called Jeff Seeney is Deputy Leader now.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:44am
more likely another oaf, I'd say..  maybe one of the pretty faces ??
Nah  they're too light weight surely..  there may be a dark horse, waiting in the wings.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Lord Sir BigVic VSD and Bar on Jan 16th, 2015 at 8:55am
The LNP plan for Townsville's new stadium.


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Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 18th, 2015 at 11:15am
Former LNP figure launches scathing attack on Newman government
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3FrF7z76b8


Quote:
A former Newman government assistant minister has urged Queensland voters to beware the ambitions of sociopaths as he gave an extraordinary indictment against his former party in power.

Dr Chris Davis, who quit parliament in protest at his government’s “betrayal” of Queenslanders last year, features in a new TV advertisement for the Wilderness Society in which he recommends voters put the Liberal National party last on ballots in the upcoming election.

Davis said on Saturday he would not “be standing here today if the trust that people gave the Newman government in 2012 had not been broken”.

“We’re talking about betrayal of thousands of public servants, the winding back of political scrutiny and donor influence, contempt for the professionalism of doctors and judges, jeopardising our environment and sustainable farming and deception on vital issues such as employment and cost of living,” he said.

Davis said that citizens needed to have trust in leaders to “serve us rather than themselves or their powerbrokers”.

He took aim at the LNP’s key platform of privatising government utilities, saying “disposing of our assets to pork barrel the Newman government into power is certainly not in our long-term interest”.

Davis also said voters needed to “be particularly wary of sociopaths”. Asked if the character of the Newman government had been sociopathic, Davis said he left it to voters to “make up their own minds”.

Davis was sacked by Newman from his post as assistant health minister when he publicly disagreed with government policy around contract negotiations with doctors and its treatment of the parliamentary committee overseeing the corruption watchdog.

He said the sacking of that committee’s chairperson, independent MP Liz Cunningham for “simply wanting some accountability” was “one of the defining moments of alarm” about the Newman government.

“For me, that was the death of accountability in Queensland,” he said.

Davis quit parliament in protest and his LNP replacement in the Stafford byelection lost in a massive swing to Labor.

Davis, who had flagged running for Labor in Ashgrove against Newman but was rebuffed, said he was now “happy being a citizen”.

Revelations of the LNP’s $18m plan to ensure premier Campbell Newman is re-elected in the seat of Ashgrove mean voters “have a challenging moral issue ahead of them”, he said.

“What we have seen has been a real pork barrelling of that electorate,” he said.

“Ashgrove is certainly not an economically deprived electorate and all of that money going into Ashgrove ... there are areas that arguably have far greater need or difficulty raising money, really don’t get that money.

“So (voters) really need to consider whether in fact they are being bribed or not, and whether they want to be bribed.”

Davis said he had been approached by the Wilderness Society to “assist with articulating what the people of Stafford have taught me”.

“I have been to the best of my ability faithful to the oath that I took as a politician to faithfully serve the people of Queensland… and was reassured when I handed the voice back to the people of Stafford at the by-election, that a poll done showed that I had 85% support for the particular approach that I had taken,” he said.

He said he agreed to appear in the advertisement “as a concerned Queenslander rather than there being anything in it for me”.

Davis said Queensland had under Newman “suffered some losses” in all three pillars of its democracy – parliament, public service and judiciary.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:22pm
Unless I've mis-read the figures, in the 2012 election, the ALP had a 15.6% swing against it.  Looking at the ABC's Antony Green's tables, there are 35 seats held by the LNP now with less than a 12% margin.  It will be down to the wire if there is a 12% swing back to the ALP.....but if there is a correction of the full 15.6%, then the ALP win.

I see absolutely no reason why there would not be that full 15.6% correction, so much does Newmann and the LNP stink up here.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by life_goes_on on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:29pm
No matter how much I'd prefer it wasn't true, but Labor is not going to win the Qld election - not even a hung parliament.

If they do very, very, very well, they will come close - but still no cigar.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by sir alevine on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:33pm

Vic wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 8:55am:
The LNP plan for Townsville's new stadium.


The problem with the knuckleheads: They claim they need to privatise assets in order to balance the budget, yet then they go and promise a new stadium? Since when did stadiums become key infrastructure????

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:48pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:29pm:
No matter how much I'd prefer it wasn't true, but Labor is not going to win the Qld election - not even a hung parliament.

If they do very, very, very well, they will come close - but still no cigar.


Have a look at Antony Greens tables.  It is not impossible, perhaps improbable....but....can you think of any reason why those who swung against the ALP in 2012 will stick with LNP in 2015 after the mess Newmann has made everywhere?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:50pm
Does anyone know how much of the alleged $80B debt Newmann will pay off with the proceeds of these proposed asset sales leases?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 21st, 2015 at 2:43pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:22pm:
Unless I've mis-read the figures, in the 2012 election, the ALP had a 15.6% swing against it.  Looking at the ABC's Antony Green's tables, there are 35 seats held by the LNP now with less than a 12% margin.  It will be down to the wire if there is a 12% swing back to the ALP.....but if there is a correction of the full 15.6%, then the ALP win.

I see absolutely no reason why there would not be that full 15.6% correction, so much does Newmann and the LNP stink up here.

I do not expect the ALP to win, but they will get back most of what they lost in 2012.

As for 12% to 15%, I expect we will see swings of 15% or more in some seats. Which seats if any have been bellwether seats - usually won by the party in government?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by life_goes_on on Jan 21st, 2015 at 2:49pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:48pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:29pm:
No matter how much I'd prefer it wasn't true, but Labor is not going to win the Qld election - not even a hung parliament.

If they do very, very, very well, they will come close - but still no cigar.


Have a look at Antony Greens tables.  It is not impossible, perhaps improbable....but....can you think of any reason why those who swung against the ALP in 2012 will stick with LNP in 2015 after the mess Newmann has made everywhere?


The lack of a well known public face as a leader.
Only 3 years of grumbling by the electorate - not 6 or more.
It's only 3 years since the rout of Labor in Queensland - plenty of voters who while they may not be rusted on, think that the LNP deserve a bit longer.

There's just not that level of distain for the government that there was in 2012.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 21st, 2015 at 2:52pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 2:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:48pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:29pm:
No matter how much I'd prefer it wasn't true, but Labor is not going to win the Qld election - not even a hung parliament.

If they do very, very, very well, they will come close - but still no cigar.


Have a look at Antony Greens tables.  It is not impossible, perhaps improbable....but....can you think of any reason why those who swung against the ALP in 2012 will stick with LNP in 2015 after the mess Newmann has made everywhere?


The lack of a well known public face as a leader.
Only 3 years of grumbling by the electorate - not 6 or more.
It's only 3 years since the rout of Labor in Queensland - plenty of voters who while they may not be rusted on, think that the LNP deserve a bit longer.

There's just not that level of distain for the government that there was in 2012.


They all must be using some other blokes' Cab.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by life_goes_on on Jan 21st, 2015 at 7:02pm

Quote:
A ReachTEL poll commissioned by Seven News questioned 1635 Queenslanders on Tuesday night and found support for the LNP had grown by 2 per cent since the snap election was announced.

Of the respondents polled, 42 per cent said they would preference the LNP first, up from 40.3 per cent on January 6,  with 36.7 per cent offering their number one spot to Labor, down from 38.1 per cent when the election was called.


The Greens saw a slight increase in support, from 7.6 per cent to 8.4 per cent, with Palmer's United Party continuing its slide in the polls, dropping to 5.2 per cent from 6.3 per cent.

Two-thirds of respondents said the government would win a second term, regardless of their voting preference.

Based on how preferences flowed in 2012, the LNP lead Labor 52 per cent to 48 per cent on two-party preferred.


http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/queensland-state-election-2015/queensland-election-reachtel-poll-puts-lnp-ahead-of-labor-20150121-12vb0d.html

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 21st, 2015 at 7:09pm
From the link...


Quote:
But while Campbell Newman remains the preferred Premier from the LNP crop, Speaker Fiona Simpson has emerged as the public's second choice, with one in five picking the former deputy Nationals leader as their next preferred leader.


That's more than enough for me to wipe this Poll off as rogue.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:59am

Aussie wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 2:52pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 2:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:48pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:29pm:
No matter how much I'd prefer it wasn't true, but Labor is not going to win the Qld election - not even a hung parliament.

If they do very, very, very well, they will come close - but still no cigar.


Have a look at Antony Greens tables.  It is not impossible, perhaps improbable....but....can you think of any reason why those who swung against the ALP in 2012 will stick with LNP in 2015 after the mess Newmann has made everywhere?


The lack of a well known public face as a leader.
Only 3 years of grumbling by the electorate - not 6 or more.
It's only 3 years since the rout of Labor in Queensland - plenty of voters who while they may not be rusted on, think that the LNP deserve a bit longer.

There's just not that level of distain for the government that there was in 2012.


They all must be using some other blokes' Cab.




I'm at the coal face, so to speak and it's certainly not what I'm seeing or hearing either. If I was the Labor candidate and I didn't win, I'd be demanding a re-count.

All how to vote cards have LNP last, Greens, Indies, PUP and Labor.

The asset sale/lease is what's killing Newman as it did with Bligh. People just want to hang onto what little we have left.

Yes, a lease is a sale when we have to buy it back in 99 years with every dollar of replacement costs over that 99 year period added to that.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 8:16am
Queensland election 2015: Mermaid Beach MP Ray Stevens 'aggressive and juvenile' when asked about controversial development

Quote:
Newman Government MP Ray Stevens became agitated and did "a dance" outside a polling booth after a journalist asked him about his controversial cable car development in the Gold Coast hinterland.

Premier Campbell Newman's assistant minister will be both consultant and investor on the proposed $100 million sky rail project from Mudgeeraba to Springbrook.

A similar plan was rejected by Labor 16 years ago and the project was only now possible after the Liberal National Party overturned a ban on national park commercial development.

Mr Stevens has said he had approval from the Integrity Commissioner to enter into the tourism venture.

At a pre-polling booth at Mermaid Beach on Wednesday, Mr Stevens was approached by a journalist who asked for the Commissioner's advice to be release.

Mr Stevens refused to answer.

"Please make an interview through the office and we will do it then," he said.

"I am here looking after my constituents."

Mr Stevens, who is also Leader of the House, then leapt to his feet to start handing out how-to-vote cards.

When the journalist, David Donovan from Independent Australia, did not back down and asked how much he could make from the development, Mr Stevens then began to wave his hands and arms up and down in the journalist's face.

Donovan said it was aggressive and juvenile behaviour.

"That Mermaid Ray really lost the plot, but without saying a word," Donovan said.

"He started doing a dance and gyrating around — this is a Minister of the Crown, we're talking about, let me remind you."

Premier Campbell Newman laughed off Mr Stevens' behaviour.

"It's pretty funny, I've got to say," he said.

"And a bit odd, and perhaps a lot of people out there will find the video amusing."


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 8:24am

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 8:16am:
Queensland election 2015: Mermaid Beach MP Ray Stevens 'aggressive and juvenile' when asked about controversial development

Quote:
Newman Government MP Ray Stevens became agitated and did "a dance" outside a polling booth after a journalist asked him about his controversial cable car development in the Gold Coast hinterland.

Premier Campbell Newman's assistant minister will be both consultant and investor on the proposed $100 million sky rail project from Mudgeeraba to Springbrook.

A similar plan was rejected by Labor 16 years ago and the project was only now possible after the Liberal National Party overturned a ban on national park commercial development.

Mr Stevens has said he had approval from the Integrity Commissioner to enter into the tourism venture.

At a pre-polling booth at Mermaid Beach on Wednesday, Mr Stevens was approached by a journalist who asked for the Commissioner's advice to be release.

Mr Stevens refused to answer.

"Please make an interview through the office and we will do it then," he said.

"I am here looking after my constituents."

Mr Stevens, who is also Leader of the House, then leapt to his feet to start handing out how-to-vote cards.

When the journalist, David Donovan from Independent Australia, did not back down and asked how much he could make from the development, Mr Stevens then began to wave his hands and arms up and down in the journalist's face.

Donovan said it was aggressive and juvenile behaviour.

"That Mermaid Ray really lost the plot, but without saying a word," Donovan said.

"He started doing a dance and gyrating around — this is a Minister of the Crown, we're talking about, let me remind you."

Premier Campbell Newman laughed off Mr Stevens' behaviour.

"It's pretty funny, I've got to say," he said.

"And a bit odd, and perhaps a lot of people out there will find the video amusing."


what is it with these gold coast libs ... a few weeks ago it turned out one refused to pay tolls or the fines that came with it, and now this knob gets all uppity when questioned about his proposal ... do they think they are untouchable?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 11:07am
Queensland: Why is there so much graft & corruption?

Yep, I know, I know?

The answer is - Politicians, Politicians of all sorts!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 12:06pm

Quote:
When the journalist ... asked how much he could make from the development, Mr Stevens then began to wave his hands and arms up and down in the journalist's face.

If this politician is abusing his position for personal gain, that is corruption as bad as what Obeid and Macdonald did in NSW.

No wonder he's not willing to talk about it.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 10:23pm
and the libs are at it again

forget due process, he's a donor

The Queensland Government plans to fast-track a $600 million residential and marina development linked to one of its donors and a key government appointee.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/26071453/queensland-government-to-fast-track-600-million-north-harbour-development-linked-to-donor-port-binnli-despite-sea-level-concerns-from-moreton-bay-council/


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jan 23rd, 2015 at 8:39am
The majority of regional Queenslanders believe the state's economy has taken a turn for the worse in the past year, according to the latest results from Vote Compass
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-23/regional-queenslanders-worried-about-downturn-of-state-economy/6035220


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 23rd, 2015 at 9:57pm
So....Newmann is suing Jones for defamation and the Libs are picking up the bill.  Why?  If Newmann was defamed, it was as a direct consequence of doing, or not doing, his job as Premier.  So, why aren't the taxpayers paying.

And.....why is Clive offering to help Jones pay his legal bill?  Surely, Jones' employer Fairfax Media have insurance for this sort of thing, but even if not, Jones has plenty of his own cash.  But, it is Clive's  money to do with as he pleases.  I reckon Clive sees votes in it, or some possible tactical advantage which might come his way to assist in his defamation action against Newmann and Seeney.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 24th, 2015 at 1:28pm
*Just some housekeeping*

Key seats indicate LNP in trouble.

Link.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 24th, 2015 at 10:20pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:22pm:
Unless I've mis-read the figures, in the 2012 election, the ALP had a 15.6% swing against it.  Looking at the ABC's Antony Green's tables, there are 35 seats held by the LNP now with less than a 12% margin.  It will be down to the wire if there is a 12% swing back to the ALP.....but if there is a correction of the full 15.6%, then the ALP win.

I see absolutely no reason why there would not be that full 15.6% correction, so much does Newmann and the LNP stink up here.



Aussie?  I hope you read it correctly.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Jan 24th, 2015 at 10:28pm
Queensland is a fine barometer for the current situation in Australian politics - neither 'side' has the goods any more, and unless they divest themselves of the same old endless rubbish they will never be a secure government anywhere here again.

I say a new party for the people is needed, along with a lot of changes.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 25th, 2015 at 7:59am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 24th, 2015 at 10:28pm:
Queensland is a fine barometer for the current situation in Australian politics - neither 'side' has the goods any more, and unless they divest themselves of the same old endless rubbish they will never be a secure government anywhere here again.

I say a new party for the people is needed, along with a lot of changes.



The best we can hope for is a hung parliament.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Jan 25th, 2015 at 11:55am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 25th, 2015 at 7:59am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 24th, 2015 at 10:28pm:
Queensland is a fine barometer for the current situation in Australian politics - neither 'side' has the goods any more, and unless they divest themselves of the same old endless rubbish they will never be a secure government anywhere here again.

I say a new party for the people is needed, along with a lot of changes.



The best we can hope for is a hung parliament.


Zu befehlen, Mein fuhrer - ve vill hang zem in zer morning!

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/26091652/palaszczuk-says-labor-to-repeal-bikie-laws/

"Queensland's opposition leader says she'll repeal and replace Queensland's controversial anti-bikie legislation.

Labor Leader Annastacia Palaszczuk says she has a "zero tolerance" stance on criminal gangs but doesn't believe the laws brought in by the current Liberal National Party government are worth keeping.

Ms Palaszczuk says the new legislation hasn't resulted in a single conviction.

She says pre-existing laws and increased police resources have been the successful elements of the state-wide crackdown.

But the opposition leader refused to elaborate on what a Labor government would replace the laws with, saying only that her yet to be released law and order policy would make that clear.

"Convictions have happened under the criminal code and other pieces of legislation," she said.

"We will release our law and order policy during this campaign ... we will repeal and we will replace, but the fundamental principle is zero tolerance, zero tolerance.

"If the police need extra resources they will get the resources that they need."

Ms Palaszczuk also slammed Premier Campbell Newman for his claims unions were using money from criminal motorcycle gangs to fund her campaign.

She said Mr Newman had descended into gutter tactics to distract voters from his plans to lease state assets if re-elected.

"If there is any evidence, any evidence, refer it to the police or refer it to the authorities," she said."


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by sir alevine on Jan 25th, 2015 at 11:57am
Newman has gone nuts.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 25th, 2015 at 5:21pm
I'd like LNP supporters to indicate in advance what they would regard as a resounding thrashing or rejection of Newmann's LNP Government.  Does it require outright defeat or would the loss of...................how many....................seats mean exactly the same thing?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Jan 25th, 2015 at 7:06pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 25th, 2015 at 11:57am:
Newman has gone nuts.


Newman has gone always was nuts.

HTS did this guy get through Duntroon?  Affirmative action of some kind as currently pervades that institution...?   If this is what they expect to lead Australian troops in a future conflict - expect many 'fraggings'.

Time for a review of selection?  Overdue if you ask me......

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 26th, 2015 at 3:18pm
So, at last.  Newmann's tactic of threatening Queensland that he will only deliver promises made to those electorates who return the LNP candidate ~ should the LNP win Government.  That had to be a bribe.  Tomorrow, the AEC will be asked to investigate.

Link.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:53am

Aussie wrote on Jan 26th, 2015 at 3:18pm:
So, at last.  Newmann's tactic of threatening Queensland that he will only deliver promises made to those electorates who return the LNP candidate ~ should the LNP win Government.  That had to be a bribe.  Tomorrow, the AEC will be asked to investigate.

Link.



The Liberal National Party is a Party for all Queenslanders

https://www.facebook.com/LNPQLD

LNP threats vote for us or get nothing.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 27th, 2015 at 8:29pm
Yes and so it continues.  Pathetic.
They've even dragged out Joan Sheldon from somewhere,  to speak for them,  cos lets face it.. Noman won't talk to Qlders.  Only those in the team get the ear.  :(

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 27th, 2015 at 8:54pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:09pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:29pm:
Since Aussie is our PUP and Qld authority par excellence, perhaps he could enlighten us why Newman was elected Brisbane's Lord Mayor and later State Premier...  if he is really such a rotter?


he lied in his application  :D :D :D


Yeas, Newmann did.  He conned Brisbane and the State.  But.....he is about to be shown the door.


ya reckon?


LNP 1.10   

   


Labor 6.00   

   


Greens 251.00   

   


PUP 251.00   

   


KAP 251.00   

who's your money on then aussie?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 27th, 2015 at 8:57pm
Newmann being shown the door.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 27th, 2015 at 8:59pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 8:57pm:
Newmann being shown the door.


we need Newman to stay there and to fix the QLD budget so that us Victorians don't have to subsidise the Queenlander halfwits that keep voting for Labor who gets them into massive debt and run a lawless state...


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:28pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 8:57pm:
Newmann being shown the door.


we need Newman to stay there and to fix the QLD budget so that us Victorians don't have to subsidise the Queenlander halfwits that keep voting for Labor who gets them into massive debt and run a lawless state...

Not need - you WANT Newman to stay there. You must be one of the rusted-ons.

You're not going to enjoy Saturday night much if Newman loses his own seat.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:34pm
Newman is finished. Every die hard rusted on lib I know up here, has said they won't vote for the libs this time around. 

Whilst it would be nice if they ditched the libs altogether this election, even if they just got rid of Newman, it would be a good result considering how far behind labor is coming from.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 27th, 2015 at 10:30pm
The Newman government has done everything in its power to undermine the Law, and democracy in Qld.  The whole lot of them are corrupt bastards who need the boot bigtime.

Whether Queenslanders are educated enough, in general terms, to understand how our Law works, and therefore understand just what a travesty this so-called government is,  is debateable.
Having been kept in the dark and treated like mushrooms for decades,  most Qlders haven't got a clue about what is done in their name, nor do they care.  They know no better.

The extreme 'I'm a Queenslander ..we're the best' popular perception is rife, and based on jingoism and popular media. / propaganda.

Now there is a tool that has been well used by generations of QLD pollies.

Has the influx of southerners made a difference to the imbedded essential QLD JOHism.? Guess we'll see on Saturday.. eh??  :)

.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 27th, 2015 at 11:42pm
Poor old Newman must've been thinking, if I call this election before federal parliament resumes I might be able to slip one by the electorate while they're still in a holiday mindset.

I can imagine springs and sprockets exploding everywhere at Team Newman after Abort, true to form, put LNP right back in the shop front window with his latest doozy.

LNPs new team Australia song, played whilst contemplating policy , over way way to many alcoholic beverages.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 28th, 2015 at 12:16am
I wish it was so amusing.. but it's not.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:24am

Bam wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:28pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 8:57pm:
Newmann being shown the door.


we need Newman to stay there and to fix the QLD budget so that us Victorians don't have to subsidise the Queenlander halfwits that keep voting for Labor who gets them into massive debt and run a lawless state...

Not need - you WANT Newman to stay there. You must be one of the rusted-ons.

You're not going to enjoy Saturday night much if Newman loses his own seat.


oh look out Bam is back again..

you soon disappeared when I shoved all of those links down your fat gob about the CFMEU and Bikies running drugs and money extortion...

and hence.. Bikies funding QLDs Labor election campaign... fricken maggots..  >:(

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:26am
oh, and BTW.....

Labor had better get used to their next new QLD Labor Leader...

Cameron Dick...

;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am

John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:34pm:
Newman is finished. Every die hard rusted on lib I know up here, has said they won't vote for the libs this time around. 

Whilst it would be nice if they ditched the libs altogether this election, even if they just got rid of Newman, it would be a good result considering how far behind labor is coming from.


when a party has had a massive swing against them at one election, usually they'll get a lot of it back on the next election...

its not rocket surgery...

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Phemanderac on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:33am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:34pm:
Newman is finished. Every die hard rusted on lib I know up here, has said they won't vote for the libs this time around. 

Whilst it would be nice if they ditched the libs altogether this election, even if they just got rid of Newman, it would be a good result considering how far behind labor is coming from.


when a party has had a massive swing against them at one election, usually they'll get a lot of it back on the next election...

its not rocket surgery...


Assuming that is true, I suspect that will be great news for Labor and Greens federally then...

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by ian on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:37am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:24am:

Bam wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:28pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 8:57pm:
Newmann being shown the door.


we need Newman to stay there and to fix the QLD budget so that us Victorians don't have to subsidise the Queenlander halfwits that keep voting for Labor who gets them into massive debt and run a lawless state...

Not need - you WANT Newman to stay there. You must be one of the rusted-ons.

You're not going to enjoy Saturday night much if Newman loses his own seat.


oh look out Bam is back again..

you soon disappeared when I shoved all of those links down your fat gob about the CFMEU and Bikies running drugs and money extortion...

and hence.. Bikies funding QLDs Labor election campaign... fricken maggots..  >:(
You did make the claim, then it was conclusively shown to you that bikies had actually donated to the LNP. I seem to remember you disappearing from the thread after that.   ;D ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Lord Sir BigVic VSD and Bar on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:42am

Phemanderac wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:33am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:34pm:
Newman is finished. Every die hard rusted on lib I know up here, has said they won't vote for the libs this time around. 

Whilst it would be nice if they ditched the libs altogether this election, even if they just got rid of Newman, it would be a good result considering how far behind labor is coming from.


when a party has had a massive swing against them at one election, usually they'll get a lot of it back on the next election...

its not rocket surgery...


Assuming that is true, I suspect that will be great news for Labor and Greens federally then...


True.  I also wonder if 'rocket surgery' has a medicare number for rebates?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:44am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:34pm:
Newman is finished. Every die hard rusted on lib I know up here, has said they won't vote for the libs this time around. 

Whilst it would be nice if they ditched the libs altogether this election, even if they just got rid of Newman, it would be a good result considering how far behind labor is coming from.


when a party has had a massive swing against them at one election, usually they'll get a lot of it back on the next election...

its not rocket surgery...


but they don't 'usually'get back the premiers seat ... if you think this is just noraml business you need to pull your head out of your arse . Then public is pissed with the liberal govt. The libs can ignore it at their own peril

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:45am

ian wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:37am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:24am:

Bam wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:28pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 8:57pm:
Newmann being shown the door.


we need Newman to stay there and to fix the QLD budget so that us Victorians don't have to subsidise the Queenlander halfwits that keep voting for Labor who gets them into massive debt and run a lawless state...

Not need - you WANT Newman to stay there. You must be one of the rusted-ons.

You're not going to enjoy Saturday night much if Newman loses his own seat.


oh look out Bam is back again..

you soon disappeared when I shoved all of those links down your fat gob about the CFMEU and Bikies running drugs and money extortion...

and hence.. Bikies funding QLDs Labor election campaign... fricken maggots..  >:(
You did make the claim, then it was conclusively shown to you that bikies had actually donated to the LNP. I seem to remember you disappearing from the thread after that.   ;D ;D


I'm sure he didn't mean to ... his phone was ringing  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:55am

Emma wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 10:30pm:
The Newman government has done everything in its power to undermine the Law, and democracy in Qld.  The whole lot of them are corrupt bastards who need the boot bigtime.

Whether Queenslanders are educated enough, in general terms, to understand how our Law works, and therefore understand just what a travesty this so-called government is,  is debateable.
Having been kept in the dark and treated like mushrooms for decades,  most Qlders haven't got a clue about what is done in their name, nor do they care.  They know no better.

The extreme 'I'm a Queenslander ..we're the best' popular perception is rife, and based on jingoism and popular media. / propaganda.

Now there is a tool that has been well used by generations of QLD pollies.

Has the influx of southerners made a difference to the imbedded essential QLD JOHism.? Guess we'll see on Saturday.. eh??  :)

.



LOVED JOH.

The state ran like clockwork under Joh.
you worked hard you got rewarded.
you bludged,  stiff bickies.

The public service was there to serve under Joh.
They were there to be the humble servants of the wealth creators.
the farmers, miners and business men.

Joh didn't let morons get in the way of the state going ahead.
He was such a practical man, such a hard working man, 
I had relatives who lived near him in Kingaroy. he fitted lights to his tractors and bulldozers and cleared bush and ploughed til midnight, 6 days a week,  then sundays in church and with family.

A better time

a time of honour, grit, resilience, courage and sweat and true community.

Its all gone now.

just a state full of city brats walking around with selfie sticks, bludgers in public housing watching foxtel all day, gangs of all sorts of ethnicities slugging it out in the urban sprawl, highways of city wankers in sliver prados going to the gold coast for "brunch"

there will never be another man who can hold a candle to the late great Johannes Bjelke Petersen.

now we live in Sodom and gomorah.

it is a crying shame.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 28th, 2015 at 8:20am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:55am:


LOVED JOH.


You're not the only one, a couple of other churchy people and his family felt the same.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 28th, 2015 at 9:01am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:24am:

Bam wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:28pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 8:57pm:
Newmann being shown the door.


we need Newman to stay there and to fix the QLD budget so that us Victorians don't have to subsidise the Queenlander halfwits that keep voting for Labor who gets them into massive debt and run a lawless state...

Not need - you WANT Newman to stay there. You must be one of the rusted-ons.

You're not going to enjoy Saturday night much if Newman loses his own seat.


oh look out Bam is back again..

you soon disappeared when I shoved all of those links down your fat gob about the CFMEU and Bikies running drugs and money extortion...

and hence.. Bikies funding QLDs Labor election campaign... fricken maggots..  >:(

Irrelevant to my point. Furthermore, your juvenile use of personal attacks is not warranted. Grow up.

Newman's about to lose his seat because he is so up himself that he thinks he can hold a seat that the conservatives have only won twice since 1983.

When it happens, deal with it and get over it.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 28th, 2015 at 9:11am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:55am:
LOVED JOH.

You must have loved the brown paper bags full of money that changed hands regularly and the rampant corruption.

You must have loved the gerrymander that made him Premier with as little as 20% of the vote. With the Bjelkemander, the Liberals were robbed just as much as Labor because they consistently outpolled the Nationals but won fewer seats.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Jan 28th, 2015 at 9:37am

Bam wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 9:11am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:55am:
LOVED JOH.

You must have loved the brown paper bags full of money that changed hands regularly and the rampant corruption.

You must have loved the gerrymander that made him Premier with as little as 20% of the vote. With the Bjelkemander, the Liberals were robbed just as much as Labor because they consistently outpolled the Nationals but won fewer seats.



Nah,

Joh died almost bankrupt . only ever owned his farm (Bethany).

he was a god fearing man and a man of principles.

compare his wealth after 30 years in parliament to that of Russ Hinze who owned about 15 pubs, 6 massive properties on the gold coast,

Joh didn't even draw super, one of the few politicians who refused it.

great man....legend

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 28th, 2015 at 9:55am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 9:37am:
he was a god fearing man and a man of principles.



The findings of the Fitzgerald Enquiry would dispute that and if he had not been so old at the time, a second enquiry would have been held and he would have more than likely been imprisoned along with his two cabinet ministers.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Outrage Bus on Jan 28th, 2015 at 10:06am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 9:37am:
Joh died almost bankrupt . only ever owned his farm (Bethany).

he was a god fearing man and a man of principles.

compare his wealth after 30 years in parliament to that of Russ Hinze who owned about 15 pubs, 6 massive properties on the gold coast,

Joh didn't even draw super, one of the few politicians who refused it.

great man....legend




As Pansi said, the Fitzgerald inquiry would heavily dispute that. To follow up Bam, theres evidence to suggest that in 1980, SIr JOh paid the Labor party money to campaign heavily in Liberal held seats in order to reduce Liberal numbers so he would rule without a Coalition.

The only people who hated him more than uni students was his Federal National party colleagues

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 28th, 2015 at 12:41pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:44am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:34pm:
Newman is finished. Every die hard rusted on lib I know up here, has said they won't vote for the libs this time around. 

Whilst it would be nice if they ditched the libs altogether this election, even if they just got rid of Newman, it would be a good result considering how far behind labor is coming from.


when a party has had a massive swing against them at one election, usually they'll get a lot of it back on the next election...

its not rocket surgery...


but they don't 'usually'get back the premiers seat ... if you think this is just noraml business you need to pull your head out of your arse . Then public is pissed with the liberal govt. The libs can ignore it at their own peril


I didn't say that they'd win government...

but all the snivelling Labrat supporters will swing back again...

only performance will keep you in government and they have done a damn good job for QLD...

so LNP to win but with a far less majority..

they'll need to keep on track, stay strong and make the tough decisions to get QLD back into Budget surplice..

and with getting $1.10 of the GST while Victoria is only getting .90c a can't see how you could not balance the budget unless you are an utter mongoloid party like their State Labor

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by PZ547 on Jan 28th, 2015 at 12:53pm
.
A lot of dirt fell out when Qld Labor was defeated

For example, at a time when Qld's water supply was being rendered even more toxic via the extra, additional addition of extra fluoride (claimed a 'mistake' by Bligh when it finally made the censored news) -- at the SAME time, it became known that in Premier Bligh's OWN household, all water was rendered fluoride-free via very expensive, full-house reverse osmosis --- right down to the shower water

Joh was a canny old Lutheran. As a kid, we lived in his electorate, back when he still had dark hair

He wasn't too bright, old Joh, but he was a dedicated stand-over man

But he was regarded as a good-bloke.  Ask anyone.  A road built at enormous cost to serve his son's farm, for example -- and all the while, Joh was acting the fool and playing dumb for the hicks with his pumpkin scones and 'chooks' references

You could get anything out of Joh if he took a shine to you.  He granted a Master Builder's licence to a guy we know -- just like that, on the guy's say-so and not a scrap of evidence required

Good old Joh

Good old Goss

And good old Ruddy

Good old Russ Hinze

Good old Gold Coast Council

Good old unions and the bodies mouldering in the ground, buried in the dead of night

and all the rest


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 28th, 2015 at 12:54pm
Bye bye Campbell Newmann, bye bye!!!

Link.


Quote:
According to Sportsbet's Christian Jantzen, Ms Jones is the $1.75 favourite for the seat with Mr Newman the $2.00 outsider.

"The backlash against Tony Abbott can't be helping Campbell Newman in election week," Mr Jantzen said.

"There's still around one-third more money placed on the Premier in Ashgrove, but in the past 48 hours we've received more interest in Kate Jones."



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 28th, 2015 at 1:48pm
Oh dear.  Here's an ever so jolly surprise, hey.  Newmann 'exaggerated' his claims  about falling crime rates being due to his wonderfulness.  What a Dick of Distortion this prick really is.  'Factcheck' blows him out of the water.

Link.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by PZ547 on Jan 28th, 2015 at 1:53pm
Labor sucks big time

Libs are right on the nose

Looks like Queenslanders will vote for Pauline -- the way they tried to do before Abbott put the boot in

Let's face it -- Aussies don't have a decent government or pack of pollies worth a cent in the entire country

And most of us know who we have to thank for that state of affairs

but don't bother them at the moment because they're busy trying to use the UN to ban a negative word about them  .. and it's retrospective.  They want it to extend thousands of years back in time

So GO PAULINE !



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 28th, 2015 at 2:29pm

Quote:
Looks like Queenslanders will vote for Pauline -- the way they tried to do before Abbott put the boot in


Bloody hell.  Where do you get your facts from?   It is true that some Queenslanders in one electorate will vote for Pauline, but  do you genuinely reckon she will come within a bull's roar of winning the seat?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 28th, 2015 at 4:53pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 12:54pm:
Bye bye Campbell Newmann, bye bye!!!

Link.


Quote:
According to Sportsbet's Christian Jantzen, Ms Jones is the $1.75 favourite for the seat with Mr Newman the $2.00 outsider.

"The backlash against Tony Abbott can't be helping Campbell Newman in election week," Mr Jantzen said.

"There's still around one-third more money placed on the Premier in Ashgrove, but in the past 48 hours we've received more interest in Kate Jones."


who knows.. his last minute pork barrelling just might get him over the line.. ;)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:30pm
Some  more housekeeping.  Latest RechTEL Poll results.

"Goodbye Campbell Newmann, goodbye Campbell Newmann.'

Link.

Makes you wonder whether the LNP have an evil 'strong' plan to cause a by-election when he loses, and if they gain Government.

Come on ALP......ramp this up! Who will be leader......or who will be jettisoned so the Little Nazi prick can parachute in?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:21pm
Thinking out loud a bit here.  Newmann himself said that if he loses, so does the LNP.  That was bullshit.  But, ya do need to reflect that if there is an almost 10 point difference between him and Labor in his own seat where he is barreling the pork faster than the largest piggery on the Planet, how much greater is the difference State wide.

Fat Lady ~ post 6.00 pm Saturday night.  It will be quite a ride!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 28th, 2015 at 8:39pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:44am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:34pm:
Newman is finished. Every die hard rusted on lib I know up here, has said they won't vote for the libs this time around. 

Whilst it would be nice if they ditched the libs altogether this election, even if they just got rid of Newman, it would be a good result considering how far behind labor is coming from.


when a party has had a massive swing against them at one election, usually they'll get a lot of it back on the next election...

its not rocket surgery...


but they don't 'usually'get back the premiers seat ... if you think this is just noraml business you need to pull your head out of your arse . Then public is pissed with the liberal govt. The libs can ignore it at their own peril


Ah  but Federally we have precedent. 

I believe there was an earlier one.. but don't forget HOWARD lost his seat to Maxine McHugh when he and his govt got the fate they deserved.

Hope it happens here and NOW to campbell and cronies.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 28th, 2015 at 8:50pm
[You could get anything out of Joh if he took a shine to you.  He granted a Master Builder's licence to a guy we know -- just like that, on the guy's say-so and not a scrap of evidence required

Good old Joh

Good old Goss

And good old Ruddy

Good old Russ HinzeGood old Gold Coast Council

Good old unions and the bodies mouldering in the ground, buried in the dead of night

and all the rest

[/quote]


Ah yes remember Russ Hinze?  Minister for Racing, and everything else.  ;D

YOU DO KNOW DON'T YOU ??  that Mr Russell Hinze was best mates with the Finks Motorcycle gang. :o  TRUTH.

He personally arranged for the giant old wooden beams that held up the old ROMA ST Station in Brisbane, after demolition , to be delivered to The Finks to build their now infamous clubhouse just up the road from Hinze's spread at Coomera.

Bet you didn't know that.!!  And jeeze JOH must have been paralytic not to know what his ministers were doing. So he was a good bloke, and a totally corrupt individual. The fact that he was  nearly broke was due to his own iniquity..and hubris,   nothing else.
The JOH trial was a farce of the first water, and we'll see more if Newman stays in.

BOOT THE BASTARDS OUT.!


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 28th, 2015 at 8:59pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 9:37am:

Bam wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 9:11am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:55am:
LOVED JOH.

You must have loved the brown paper bags full of money that changed hands regularly and the rampant corruption.

You must have loved the gerrymander that made him Premier with as little as 20% of the vote. With the Bjelkemander, the Liberals were robbed just as much as Labor because they consistently outpolled the Nationals but won fewer seats.



Nah,

Joh died almost bankrupt . only ever owned his farm (Bethany).

he was a god fearing man and a man of principles.

compare his wealth after 30 years in parliament to that of Russ Hinze who owned about 15 pubs, 6 massive properties on the gold coast,

Joh didn't even draw super, one of the few politicians who refused it.
great man....legend



Well Acquascoot..!! ..he didn't NEED a superannuation pension.. plus it made him look good.

Nothing GOOD can really be said about JOH. OH OH  right  ..he helped his mates, regardless of the consequences for Queensland.  Sound familiar?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 28th, 2015 at 9:05pm
Did you happen to see 7.30 on ABC Queensland tonight?.


Mr Tony Fitzgerald gave his first actual media interview regarding his views, virtually since the results of the Fitzgerald Enquiry was announced.. 20+ yrs ago. Lets just say.. he was very cautious with his words. ( Doesn't want to be sued by the premier).
But his comments on the actions of this govt, particularly in relation to Law, and  GOOD GOVERNANCE  were particularly telling.

He expressed the view that the last Premier of Queensland to hold to the integrity necessary for good governance was  WAYNE GOSS.
And I tell you what Asscootie and fellows ..he'd know .. much more about the facts than the likes of YOU.


Do hope you caught it.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 29th, 2015 at 12:19am
well doh doh doh.

(origin: The Simpsons)

or
shaddup, Shazza  I'm waxing the glovebox of the Kingswood.

(you remember that AUSSIE show) ??

Maybe you don't. 

But I remember the past.. just a few yrs ago really.  It was a foul thing that happened here in QLD, and many innocent people suffered.
  Why would we want to do it again?.   ::)

Well OK  ..

Shirley Bassey and 'History Repeating'.  Great song.. damned if I can remember at the mo the group that talked her into it.. but 

Killer song....  very appropriate.

Well  ..  Its all just a little bit of history repeating..

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 29th, 2015 at 6:42pm

PZ547 wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 1:53pm:
Labor sucks big time

Libs are right on the nose

Looks like Queenslanders will vote for Pauline -- the way they tried to do before Abbott put the boot in

Let's face it -- Aussies don't have a decent government or pack of pollies worth a cent in the entire country

And most of us know who we have to thank for that state of affairs

but don't bother them at the moment because they're busy trying to use the UN to ban a negative word about them  .. and it's retrospective.  They want it to extend thousands of years back in time

So GO PAULINE !


One wonders why you would want such an ignorant person to have any say.  That strongly suggests you are even more ignorant then she. :D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Redneck on Jan 29th, 2015 at 6:46pm
Go for it Emma, luvs ya stuff!!  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 29th, 2015 at 7:19pm
well shucks Redneck,  thanks for your comment. Nobody else seems game to reply to me..  :) :) ;)

Funny how that happens eh?

I find the forum a useful outlet for my input.  :)

So you like motorcycles.. me too.  Can't say I've ever been on a BMW tho. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I wonder where all the bigmouths have gone? [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif] [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by cods on Jan 29th, 2015 at 7:36pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:30pm:
Some  more housekeeping.  Latest RechTEL Poll results.

"Goodbye Campbell Newmann, goodbye Campbell Newmann.'

Link.

Makes you wonder whether the LNP have an evil 'strong' plan to cause a by-election when he loses, and if they gain Government.

Come on ALP......ramp this up! Who will be leader......or who will be jettisoned so the Little Nazi prick can parachute in?



ok aussie tell us just what has Labor promised to do??..

all we hear is get rid of Newman. ok hes gone..now what??.. dont tell us labor have done anything impressive for years either..... so what are you expectations...and will Palmer be on the front bench?>?? ::) ::) if they can give him a double

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 29th, 2015 at 7:41pm

cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 7:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:30pm:
Some  more housekeeping.  Latest RechTEL Poll results.

"Goodbye Campbell Newmann, goodbye Campbell Newmann.'

Link.

Makes you wonder whether the LNP have an evil 'strong' plan to cause a by-election when he loses, and if they gain Government.

Come on ALP......ramp this up! Who will be leader......or who will be jettisoned so the Little Nazi prick can parachute in?



ok aussie tell us just what has Labor promised to do??..

all we hear is get rid of Newman. ok hes gone..now what??.. dont tell us labor have done anything impressive for years either..... so what are you expectations...and will Palmer be on the front bench?>?? ::) ::) if they can give him a double


They've promised to get rid of Newmann and not sell the bloody farm to the Chinese as Newmann wants to do.  That'll do me.



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 29th, 2015 at 7:51pm
Ahh  one of the irrelevant big ignorant mouths return.!! CODS.. I am surprised.  ;)

yeah I'd like to say.. some people, especially those who don't live here, are full of erroneous rubbish about this state.

Mexicans are welcome to their opinions, no matter how gormless, or formless , they are.
Cods,  still not willing to talk to me.?  Obviously not  :),  and why should I be surprised that you think, we here in QLD, should keep Noman ??  Save it for after the election. Your opinion is not relevant as you don't vote in QLD.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 30th, 2015 at 5:41pm
This is the woman who will "make my night," tomorrow.  It will be fantastic.

Link.

Goodbye Campbell Newmann...goodbye!!


For a bit.  I'll bet he/they have already organised the by election.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 30th, 2015 at 8:09pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 5:41pm:
This is the woman who will "make my night," tomorrow.  It will be fantastic.

Link.

Goodbye Campbell Newmann...goodbye!!


For a bit.  I'll bet he/they have already organised the by election.

Good Luck Aussie.. I hope you are right. My view.?? touch and go.

Anyhting is possible. :)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 30th, 2015 at 8:20pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 5:41pm:
This is the woman who will "make my night," tomorrow.  It will be fantastic.

Link.

Goodbye Campbell Newmann...goodbye!!


For a bit.  I'll bet he/they have already organised the by election.



Can't wait to see the look on that prick's face.




Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 30th, 2015 at 8:33pm

Emma wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 5:41pm:
This is the woman who will "make my night," tomorrow.  It will be fantastic.

Link.

Goodbye Campbell Newmann...goodbye!!


For a bit.  I'll bet he/they have already organised the by election.

Good Luck Aussie.. I hope you are right. My view.?? touch and go.

Anyhting is possible. :)


If it even gets close to 'touch and go' ~ on a State basis ~ that will be an added bonus for me.  Newmann is toast in Ashgrove.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:13pm
It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

Interesting, and vital,  times for Queensland.

Talk to you here tomorrow night eh? 
[smiley=beer.gif]

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:20pm

Emma wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:13pm:
It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

Interesting, and vital,  times for Queensland.

Talk to you here tomorrow night eh? 
[smiley=beer.gif]


Maybe not.  I'll be at the Palmer Resort having a beer or three.  I'll have an extra one for you.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:29pm
Doubt there will be much joy for PUP itself.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:35pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:29pm:
Doubt there will be much joy for PUP itself.


There will be delirium.  This was all about...............

"Goodbye Campbell Newmann......goodbye."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joEaO0IAsAk

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:35pm
Queensland election 2015: LNP to retain government, ABC Vote Compass survey suggests
Expected seat results (Vote Compass):
LNP 52 (including Ashgrove)
ALP 35
KAP 2

I expect it to be slightly closer than that: LNP 49 seats, ALP 38 (including Ashgrove) KAP 2.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:39pm
It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

Interesting, and vital,  times for Queensland.

Talk to you here tomorrow night eh? 
[smiley=beer.gif][/quote]

Maybe not.  I'll be at the Palmer Resort having a beer or three.  I'll have an extra one for you.
[/quote]

Do that, 'cos guess what?  I'll be giving you a thought or two on the morrow.. and I'll raise a glass of Red.. to
no more noman.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:45pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:35pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:29pm:
Doubt there will be much joy for PUP itself.


There will be delirium.  This was all about...............

"Goodbye Campbell Newmann......goodbye."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joEaO0IAsAk

I realise that, Aussie, but PUP itself is pretty much finished.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:45pm

Bam wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:35pm:
Queensland election 2015: LNP to retain government, ABC Vote Compass survey suggests
Expected seat results (Vote Compass):
LNP 52 (including Ashgrove)
ALP 35
KAP 2

I expect it to be slightly closer than that: LNP 49 seats, ALP 38 (including Ashgrove) KAP 2.


Bam....from the link...


Quote:
The results are not an indication of who survey respondents intend to vote for; rather they reflect respondents' beliefs about who will win their local seat.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:47pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:35pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:29pm:
Doubt there will be much joy for PUP itself.


There will be delirium.  This was all about...............

"Goodbye Campbell Newmann......goodbye."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joEaO0IAsAk

I realise that, Aussie, but PUP itself is pretty much finished.


It is finished if Clive walks away from it, no doubt about that.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by gandalf on Jan 31st, 2015 at 1:16am
The big poll rush on the eve of the election is just coming through now. All three published polls tonight - reachtell, newspoll and galaxy have it at 52-48 LNP. Galaxy the only one I saw on Ashgrove - Newman behind 55-45.... ouch  :o

Almost certainly a new LNP government with no premier...

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 31st, 2015 at 5:21am

Aussie wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:35pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:29pm:
Doubt there will be much joy for PUP itself.


There will be delirium.  This was all about...............

"Goodbye Campbell Newmann......goodbye."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joEaO0IAsAk


im just wondering what type of person would quote that stupid greedy arrogant fat turd...  ::)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 31st, 2015 at 5:26am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 1:16am:
The big poll rush on the eve of the election is just coming through now. All three published polls tonight - reachtell, newspoll and galaxy have it at 52-48 LNP. Galaxy the only one I saw on Ashgrove - Newman behind 55-45.... ouch  :o

Almost certainly a new LNP government with no premier...


constitutionally, one of the LNP members who is sitting in a "safe seat" could resign and go to a by election whereby Newman could stand and win the seat and stay the Premier...

that would be funny on so many levels... especially to see how aussie would act...  ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 31st, 2015 at 5:37am

Emma wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 7:51pm:
Ahh  one of the irrelevant big ignorant mouths return.!! CODS.. I am surprised.  ;)

yeah I'd like to say.. some people, especially those who don't live here, are full of erroneous rubbish about this state.

Mexicans are welcome to their opinions, no matter how gormless, or formless , they are.
Cods,  still not willing to talk to me.?  Obviously not  :),  and why should I be surprised that you think, we here in QLD, should keep Noman ??  Save it for after the election. Your opinion is not relevant as you don't vote in QLD.


how do you work that out you sponging leach... ?  >:(

its because of nincompoops like you that keep voting Labor and hence, keep going further and further into debt that affects other states in Australia..

for instance...

Victoria only gets back 90% of GST because they have to subsidies the halfwit QLDers because they are in massive debt so get 110% of GST revenue..

the federal government should cut funding to QLD and let them sink because they are too greedy and stupid for reform...

the hungry bastards would rather pass on their massive debt to their children... fricken scumbags..  >:(

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:38am

Aussie wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:45pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:35pm:
Queensland election 2015: LNP to retain government, ABC Vote Compass survey suggests
Expected seat results (Vote Compass):
LNP 52 (including Ashgrove)
ALP 35
KAP 2

I expect it to be slightly closer than that: LNP 49 seats, ALP 38 (including Ashgrove) KAP 2.


Bam....from the link...


Quote:
The results are not an indication of who survey respondents intend to vote for; rather they reflect respondents' beliefs about who will win their local seat.

This is why I expect the election result to be a little closer than the Vote Compass predicts.

Another thing that may cause a few surprises on election night is the widespread use of preference flows from the 2012 election when calculating 2PP by the various pollsters. This is flawed because the various parties are allocating their preferences differently this time.

For example, The Greens had a "just vote 1" campaign in 2012, while this time they are preferencing the ALP second in a large number of winnable seats. Other minor parties are putting the LNP last including PUP (which didn't exist in 2012). The protest vote factor was against the ALP in 2012 and will be against the LNP in 2015.

Any assertion that the preference flows will be identical has nothing to support it but is just a guess.

The 52-48 2PP based on 2012 preferences is therefore a little optimistic for the LNP. If these samples were accurate the actual election result may be closer, perhaps 51-49 or so.

For more detailed analyses, see this post and this post at PollBludger.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:38am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 5:21am:

Aussie wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:35pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:29pm:
Doubt there will be much joy for PUP itself.


There will be delirium.  This was all about...............

"Goodbye Campbell Newmann......goodbye."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joEaO0IAsAk


im just wondering what type of person would quote that stupid greedy arrogant fat turd...  ::)


derrr .... the voters in Hockeys electorate

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by cods on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:52am

Aussie wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:47pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:35pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 9:29pm:
Doubt there will be much joy for PUP itself.


There will be delirium.  This was all about...............

"Goodbye Campbell Newmann......goodbye."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joEaO0IAsAk

I realise that, Aussie, but PUP itself is pretty much finished.


It is finished if Clive walks away from it, no doubt about that.



if he polls badly he will walk.. this is costing him a fortune.... and it will give you some idea of what he is really like aussie..

in it for himself.. bugger the country. ::) ::) well we tried to tell you that...

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:53am

cods wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:52am:
in it for himself..


clive got in it for one reason and one reason alone ... to get at Newman. He doesn't care about the money or anything else.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Jan 31st, 2015 at 12:16pm
Abbott became PM just for himself.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 31st, 2015 at 1:01pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 1:16am:
The big poll rush on the eve of the election is just coming through now. All three published polls tonight - reachtell, newspoll and galaxy have it at 52-48 LNP. Galaxy the only one I saw on Ashgrove - Newman behind 55-45.... ouch  :o

Almost certainly a new LNP government with no premier...


GOODBYE CAMPBELL NEWMAN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O450H8HPzOs


I'm handing out 'how to vote' cards for Not4SaleQld at the polling booth. I think our Labour rep will walk it in, a safe LNP seat too. It's the assets, that's what's got up people's noses. You would wonder how Newman could be so arrogant as to think he could get away with it, just three short years after Bligh got annihilated for the asset sales.

If Labor get pipped at the post, it will be a hung parliament, for sure, which is a good outcome in my opinion.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 31st, 2015 at 2:26pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:53am:

cods wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:52am:
in it for himself..


clive got in it for one reason and one reason alone ... to get at Newman. He doesn't care about the money or anything else.


Without doubt, that was/is the prime factor.  Anything else will be an unexpected bonus.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 31st, 2015 at 5:28pm
State wide Galaxy Exit Poll (so, caution) say 16.8% swing to Labor.  If that is correct, and stays consistent, goodbye LNP, goodbye Newmann and goodbye Abbott.

How sweet that would be!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Jan 31st, 2015 at 5:56pm
16.8% whew! That holds my god are we in for a shakeup!

No more asset sales.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by gandalf on Jan 31st, 2015 at 6:11pm
exit polls always seem to be wildly off. Hope this isn't though  :D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 31st, 2015 at 6:26pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 5:37am:

Emma wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 7:51pm:
Ahh  one of the irrelevant big ignorant mouths return.!! CODS.. I am surprised.  ;)

yeah I'd like to say.. some people, especially those who don't live here, are full of erroneous rubbish about this state.

Mexicans are welcome to their opinions, no matter how gormless, or formless , they are.
Cods,  still not willing to talk to me.?  Obviously not  :),  and why should I be surprised that you think, we here in QLD, should keep Noman ??  Save it for after the election. Your opinion is not relevant as you don't vote in QLD.


how do you work that out you sponging leach... ?  >:(

its because of nincompoops like you that keep voting Labor and hence, keep going further and further into debt that affects other states in Australia..

for instance...

Victoria only gets back 90% of GST because they have to subsidies the halfwit QLDers because they are in massive debt so get 110% of GST revenue..

the federal government should cut funding to QLD and let them sink because they are too greedy and stupid for reform...

the hungry bastards would rather pass on their massive debt to their children... fricken scumbags
..  >:(


Ah  another whinging big mouth know-it- all from somewhere other than Queensland.


Well??  you know what you can do with your insults and idiocy don't you? :)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 31st, 2015 at 6:29pm
er Mechanic?  shouldn't that be  LEECH.

So clever you are not.  We will see won't we  ..   :)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 31st, 2015 at 6:31pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 6:11pm:
exit polls always seem to be wildly off. Hope this isn't though  :D


me too!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 31st, 2015 at 7:59pm
Yes

Goodbye Campbell
Goodbye Pucci

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)


WELL DONE QLDERS [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbup.gif]

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2015 at 8:05pm

Emma wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 7:59pm:
Yes

Goodbye Campbell ...



... you worthless piece of corrupt crap.

What a great day this is.




Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 31st, 2015 at 8:09pm
That deserves a 'cheer'.
Raise your glasses ladies and gentleman it's time to celebrate.!!!!!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2015 at 8:12pm

Emma wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 8:09pm:
That deserves a 'cheer'.
Raise your glasses ladies and gentleman it's time to celebrate.!!!!!



On our second bottle of Champagne, here.

"Queensland Premier Campbell Newman has lost his Brisbane seat of Ashgrove to Labor's Kate Jones, ABC election analyst Antony Green says."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-31/campbell-newman-loses-ashgrove-to-kate-jones-antony-green-says/6059928



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 31st, 2015 at 8:55pm
Kate-  you did it.. and listening to you now ... you deserve all kudos.  :)

Now we hear (on ABC .. Nicholls defending Newman.. )

PLEASE SPARE US THE GARBAGE.... YOU LOST .. GO AWAY

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:04pm

Emma wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 8:55pm:
Kate-  you did it.. and listening to you now ... you deserve all kudos. 



Well done Kate.

Hopefully that's the last we'll ever see of Corrupt Campbell.



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:30pm
As most assuredly does Anastascia Palaszczuk :) :) :)

Well done .. you should hold your head high.

Three cheers for Anastascia Palaszczuk!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Spelling courtesy of Bill Shorten I think..) 

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:39pm
why is the ABC giving so much time on air now to the LNP.??

I guess they never imagined the ALP would win,  YEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by cods on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:43pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 2:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:53am:

cods wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:52am:
in it for himself..


clive got in it for one reason and one reason alone ... to get at Newman. He doesn't care about the money or anything else.


Without doubt, that was/is the prime factor.  Anything else will be an unexpected bonus.



totally disgusting... I hope KARMA visits with you all real soon...when your debt skyrockets.....and the bills all increase.... dont whinge now will you?..its called KARMA ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:53pm
oh boo hoo for you CODS.. whinger extraordinaire.  Just heard that old piece of Pus Warren Truss.. look out ..  :o

he'll be YOUR next hero.. the man who played the Pete slippper game.. as corrupt as one could imagine.. and yet he  has been suggested as a replacement for the seriously lame Rabbit. Nothing could be worse for this nation.
Take heed Cods and co.. the crap ends now.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by RUNVS on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:58pm

cods wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:43pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 2:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:53am:

cods wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:52am:
in it for himself..


clive got in it for one reason and one reason alone ... to get at Newman. He doesn't care about the money or anything else.


Without doubt, that was/is the prime factor.  Anything else will be an unexpected bonus.



totally disgusting... I hope KARMA visits with you all real soon...when your debt skyrockets.....and the bills all increase.... dont whinge now will you?..its called KARMA ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


So you want the state to fall apart because your side of politics lost? To be honest that is rather disgusting. It is like hoping your ex girlfriend gets cancer because she found a better boyfriend.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jan 31st, 2015 at 10:03pm


well done labor.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Jan 31st, 2015 at 10:04pm

cods wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:43pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 2:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:53am:

cods wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:52am:
in it for himself..


clive got in it for one reason and one reason alone ... to get at Newman. He doesn't care about the money or anything else.


Without doubt, that was/is the prime factor.  Anything else will be an unexpected bonus.



totally disgusting... I hope KARMA visits with you all real soon...when your debt skyrockets.....and the bills all increase.... dont whinge now will you?..its called KARMA ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


piss off ijit ..... you should be more concerned with when Karma visits you

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Jan 31st, 2015 at 10:07pm
** flings bucket of icy water on the celebrations...

Curses - yet another one term government - at least The People are letting their feelings be known...

Der Fuhrerstriden doesn't work here any more....

Maybe we'll see Tones do a Gillard and 'show us the real Tony' - the caring, decent human being who would never oversee the slush fund to do down Pauline Hanson... naaaah.. Nev-AH!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2015 at 10:10pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 10:07pm:
Maybe we'll see Tones do a Gillard and 'show us the real Tony' - the caring, decent human being ...



Considering that he's a megalomaniacal sociopath, I doubt that very much.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 31st, 2015 at 10:21pm
good description there Gretchen

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Jan 31st, 2015 at 10:22pm

RUNVS wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:58pm:

cods wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:43pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 2:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:53am:

cods wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:52am:
in it for himself..


clive got in it for one reason and one reason alone ... to get at Newman. He doesn't care about the money or anything else.


Without doubt, that was/is the prime factor.  Anything else will be an unexpected bonus.



totally disgusting... I hope KARMA visits with you all real soon...when your debt skyrockets.....and the bills all increase.... dont whinge now will you?..its called KARMA ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


So you want the state to fall apart because your side of politics lost? To be honest that is rather disgusting. It is like hoping your ex girlfriend gets cancer because she found a better boyfriend.



YEAH  and she doesn't even live in Queensland.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Karnal on Jan 31st, 2015 at 10:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 8:12pm:

Emma wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 8:09pm:
That deserves a 'cheer'.
Raise your glasses ladies and gentleman it's time to celebrate.!!!!!



On our second bottle of Champagne, here.

"Queensland Premier Campbell Newman has lost his Brisbane seat of Ashgrove to Labor's Kate Jones, ABC election analyst Antony Green says."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-31/campbell-newman-loses-ashgrove-to-kate-jones-antony-green-says/6059928




Absolute nonsense. Longy hasn’t updated the maths yet.

Stay tuned. We may well need a recount.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jan 31st, 2015 at 10:53pm
"Aussie" on a roll!


Quote:
Unless I've mis-read the figures, in the 2012 election, the ALP had a 15.6% swing against it.  Looking at the ABC's Antony Green's tables, there are 35 seats held by the LNP now with less than a 12% margin.  It will be down to the wire if there is a 12% swing back to the ALP.....but if there is a correction of the full 15.6%, then the ALP win.

I see absolutely no reason why there would not be that full 15.6% correction, so much does Newmann and the LNP stink up here.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Setanta on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:02pm

Emma wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:53pm:
oh boo hoo for you CODS.. whinger extraordinaire.  Just heard that old piece of Pus Warren Truss.. look out ..  :o

he'll be YOUR next hero.. the man who played the Pete slippper game.. as corrupt as one could imagine.. and yet he  has been suggested as a replacement for the seriously lame Rabbit. Nothing could be worse for this nation.
Take heed Cods and co.. the crap ends now.


It's disgusting how all those Labor,Green and PUP voters have BULLIED that great man Campbell out of office. They should be ashamed. ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 1st, 2015 at 1:16am
I'm still coming to grips with the whole thing.!  Oh  :) so well done people.

This actually means, I won't have to listen to those LNP talking BS heads anymore. ??
BLISS.
Sheer bliss.  ;D ;D

Newman, and my former lying LNP MP  Mr M Pucci  are HISTORY.... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :)

I know it is not a dream.. :) ;D ;D
  My faith in the commonsense of the people of Queensland has been renewed bigtime. !!!!!!



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Feb 1st, 2015 at 4:21am
Anyone got the final score?

Hmm looks like Labor have 43 and need two more to govern absolute in own right.... several in the balance...

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Feb 1st, 2015 at 6:28am


45 with possibly one other.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 1st, 2015 at 8:54am

Bam wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:38am:
Another thing that may cause a few surprises on election night is the widespread use of preference flows from the 2012 election when calculating 2PP by the various pollsters. This is flawed because the various parties are allocating their preferences differently this time.

For example, The Greens had a "just vote 1" campaign in 2012, while this time they are preferencing the ALP second in a large number of winnable seats. Other minor parties are putting the LNP last including PUP (which didn't exist in 2012). The protest vote factor was against the ALP in 2012 and will be against the LNP in 2015.

Any assertion that the preference flows will be identical has nothing to support it but is just a guess.

The 52-48 2PP based on 2012 preferences is therefore a little optimistic for the LNP. If these samples were accurate the actual election result may be closer, perhaps 51-49 or so.

For more detailed analyses, see this post and this post at PollBludger.

It is interesting to see this prediction borne out.

Some PollBludger posters were the first to mention this. The PollBludger posters even recalculated the 52-48 2PP from the published opinion polls with different weightings (using the byelection results as a guide). They came up with 50-50 results.

The commentators on the ABC election coverage criticised the opinion pollsters' widespread usage of 2012 preference flows to calculate the 2PP figure. This polling method masks the effect of swings against the government.

The LNP led on primary votes in 50 seats, but preference flows were enough to change the result in 10 seats. Preference flows were important in this election, much more than many expected.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Feb 1st, 2015 at 10:11am

Emma wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 7:59pm:
Yes

Goodbye Campbell
Goodbye Pucci

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)


WELL DONE QLDERS [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbup.gif]



What a great day Emma, I am over the moon, hard work in hot weather but the results are worth every minute of it. I knew the results in my electorate after the first hour, so many people were saying we have to smack him off! Our LNP bloke and Newman both got the flick, maybe the whole LNP Party, the icing on the cake.

Queensland woke up, woohoo!!!!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 1st, 2015 at 4:05pm
"Housekeeping."

Link.

Link.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 1st, 2015 at 7:43pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 1st, 2015 at 10:11am:

Emma wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 7:59pm:
Yes

Goodbye Campbell
Goodbye Pucci

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)


WELL DONE QLDERS [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbup.gif]



What a great day Emma, I am over the moon, hard work in hot weather but the results are worth every minute of it. I knew the results in my electorate after the first hour, so many people were saying we have to smack him off! Our LNP bloke and Newman both got the flick, maybe the whole LNP Party, the icing on the cake.

Queensland woke up, woohoo!!!!


Totally with you there Pansi..  even a hung parliament is better than Newman and cronies,. but  it'd be great if Labor wins outright.  So sick of the LNP  I'd be happy to never hear from any one of them ever again. As it is.. looks like we'll have a bit of a scrap ahead.  :) ;D ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 12:20am
To listen to the losing LNP members.. we just didn't understand their message. ( tell ya guys we understood perfectly well)

The Filth Flegg tried to explain why with such a huge majority meant ignorant newbies who hadn't a clue.. they were Newman's cronies and did wrong things . GASP.

Never let it be said the LNP take responsibility for their abysmal govt. Nor do they regret their arrogance.

The best description of the FORMER NEWMAN GOVT. ??

No better than a bunch of schoolyard bullies.

Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish.!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 3:06am
State of the LNP


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 7:32am

Emma wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 12:20am:
To listen to the losing LNP members.. we just didn't understand their message. ( tell ya guys we understood perfectly well)

The Filth Flegg tried to explain why with such a huge majority meant ignorant newbies who hadn't a clue.. they were Newman's cronies and did wrong things . GASP.

Never let it be said the LNP take responsibility for their abysmal govt. Nor do they regret their arrogance.

The best description of the FORMER NEWMAN GOVT. ??

No better than a bunch of schoolyard bullies.

Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish.!!!!!!!!!



Not schoolyard bullies at all.
Just responsible adults who told you you have to eat your broccoli and you cant just skip straight to dessert.
of course, sooks like yourself and pansi with no self discipline think that you can just have your dessert and you cry like a baby when you have to do something a bit difficult (like pay back a bit of debt and actually put your shoulder to the wheel and sweat).

But the day of reckoning is coming for the Emma's and pansi's.
It may not come for them , but it will come for their children and grandchildren as the state is taken over by Asian bankers who would be just loving the idea of labor further mortgaging the state.
It inter generational theft by pansi and emma so they can live like the queen and their grandchildren will have to sort this mess out.

What disgraceful people you are.
You should be ashamed  >:( >:(

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 7:53am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 7:32am:

Emma wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 12:20am:
To listen to the losing LNP members.. we just didn't understand their message. ( tell ya guys we understood perfectly well)

The Filth Flegg tried to explain why with such a huge majority meant ignorant newbies who hadn't a clue.. they were Newman's cronies and did wrong things . GASP.

Never let it be said the LNP take responsibility for their abysmal govt. Nor do they regret their arrogance.

The best description of the FORMER NEWMAN GOVT. ??

No better than a bunch of schoolyard bullies.

Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish.!!!!!!!!!



Not schoolyard bullies at all.
Just responsible adults who told you you have to eat your broccoli and you cant just skip straight to dessert.
of course, sooks like yourself and pansi with no self discipline think that you can just have your dessert and you cry like a baby when you have to do something a bit difficult (like pay back a bit of debt and actually put your shoulder to the wheel and sweat).

But the day of reckoning is coming for the Emma's and pansi's.
It may not come for them , but it will come for their children and grandchildren as the state is taken over by Asian bankers who would be just loving the idea of labor further mortgaging the state.
It inter generational theft by pansi and emma so they can live like the queen and their grandchildren will have to sort this mess out.

What disgraceful people you are.
You should be ashamed  >:( >:(
Victoria sold its fantastic public owned electricity grid and now it belongs to the Singapore government who saw a great money spinner and have been laughing all the way to the bank ever since . Now that's what I call taking over this country, so you know your talk about the Asian Bankers coming to take over this country unless we vote for conservative govts sounds somewhat hollow.  We are losing our country because of the push by conservative govts (mainly LNP) over 3 decades to knock down our trade barriers and sell our govt owned assets.  I hope one day the australian community will see this for the betrayal that it was.   

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 7:59am

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 7:53am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 7:32am:

Emma wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 12:20am:
To listen to the losing LNP members.. we just didn't understand their message. ( tell ya guys we understood perfectly well)

The Filth Flegg tried to explain why with such a huge majority meant ignorant newbies who hadn't a clue.. they were Newman's cronies and did wrong things . GASP.

Never let it be said the LNP take responsibility for their abysmal govt. Nor do they regret their arrogance.

The best description of the FORMER NEWMAN GOVT. ??

No better than a bunch of schoolyard bullies.

Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish.!!!!!!!!!



Not schoolyard bullies at all.
Just responsible adults who told you you have to eat your broccoli and you cant just skip straight to dessert.
of course, sooks like yourself and pansi with no self discipline think that you can just have your dessert and you cry like a baby when you have to do something a bit difficult (like pay back a bit of debt and actually put your shoulder to the wheel and sweat).

But the day of reckoning is coming for the Emma's and pansi's.
It may not come for them , but it will come for their children and grandchildren as the state is taken over by Asian bankers who would be just loving the idea of labor further mortgaging the state.
It inter generational theft by pansi and emma so they can live like the queen and their grandchildren will have to sort this mess out.

What disgraceful people you are.
You should be ashamed  >:( >:(
Victoria sold its fantastic public owned electricity grid and now it belongs to the Singapore government who saw a great money spinner and have been laughing all the way to the bank ever since . Now that's what I call taking over this country, so you know your talk about the Asian Bankers coming to take over this country unless we vote for conservative govts sounds somewhat hollow.  We are losing our country because of the push by conservative govts (mainly LNP) over 3 decades to knock down our trade barriers and sell our govt owned assets.  I hope one day the australian community will see this for the betrayal that it was.   



true Spartacus,  I agree , they are both as bad as each other.
But if the whiney sooks would stop asking for more and more, then they wouldn't need to sell the stuff to pay for a selfish electorate of ingrates

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:10am
LNP sells assets because that is the neocon belief.

Please don’t throw the blame onto the ordinary people of Australia. It is the LNP and its spivs and shonk hangers on are responsible for asset sales. All these damn asset sales mean the govt has a lot less revenue! the Howard privatisation of Telstra was the height of stupidity, but the Rodent wanted more money to hand out as pork!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:13am
Selling profitable assets is stupid. It's like selling the house to pay the mortgage, or selling the cow instead of the milk.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:20am
Not only that, it is the top end of town get all the handouts:

–diesel fuel rebate

–get away with transfer pricing

–“Australia tax”

–concessionary tax rate on super contributions, since Howard the super rich can avoid huge amounts of tax

–negative gearing

–concessionary capital gains tax

–churches not taxed

Ordinary people want their kids to be educated, a fair days pay for a fair days work and to be looked after when they retire. Australia is way down the OPEC scale re the amount of the pension and what those on NewStart get is criminally low!

Funnily enough, what the ordinary people want is also good for the country.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:22am

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:10am:
LNP sells assets because that is the neocon belief.

Please don’t throw the blame onto the ordinary people of Australia. It is the LNP and its spivs and shonk hangers on are responsible for asset sales. All these damn asset sales mean the govt has a lot less revenue! the Howard privatisation of Telstra was the height of stupidity, but the Rodent wanted more money to hand out as pork!
I dont blame the aust people for assets sales. If anyone gets how stupid assets sales is its the aust people. Its the pollies that have done this against the good sense of the people and that's why we need a direct democracy. Sick and tired of our soi called representatives always acting as our worst enemy. 

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:23am
Queensland let the LNP know what they thought of privatisation, don’t need some fairy tale new system.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:27am

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 7:53am:
Victoria sold its fantastic public owned electricity grid and now it belongs to the Singapore government who saw a great money spinner and have been laughing all the way to the bank ever since . Now that's what I call taking over this country, so you know your talk about the Asian Bankers coming to take over this country unless we vote for conservative govts sounds somewhat hollow.  We are losing our country because of the push by conservative govts (mainly LNP) over 3 decades to knock down our trade barriers and sell our govt owned assets.  I hope one day the australian community will see this for the betrayal that it was.

People are already waking up to it.

People have rejected the LNP in Queensland for that reason.

And right around the country, people are looking at their electricity bills after the repeal of the carbon "tax" and seeing the price still going up and up.

We need a Royal Commission into the privatisation of assets.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:36am

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:20am:
Not only that, it is the top end of town get all the handouts:

Not all the handouts, but a lot more than they need.

(note: I rearranged the bullet points for ease of discussion)

Quote:
–diesel fuel rebate
–concessionary tax rate on super contributions, since Howard the super rich can avoid huge amounts of tax
–negative gearing
–concessionary capital gains tax

All of which need to be looked at in the quest for balancing the budget.


Quote:
–get away with transfer pricing
–“Australia tax”

Multinational taxation is a world-wide scourge. The government have identified it as a problem but they are all talk and no walk. What have they done? Nothing!


Quote:
–churches not taxed

Abolish the tax-free status of religious institutions. Allow genuine charitable works to be deducted against the tax at full value. Genuine charities would be unaffected (as long as they spend at least 30% of their income on charitable works) but sham religious organisations that do no real charitable works would start being taxed. Hillsong would be a case in point - $50 million income, $2 million in "charity" (at the most), no tax paid.

This is another area where a Royal Commission is needed.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:39am

Bam wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:27am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 7:53am:
Victoria sold its fantastic public owned electricity grid and now it belongs to the Singapore government who saw a great money spinner and have been laughing all the way to the bank ever since . Now that's what I call taking over this country, so you know your talk about the Asian Bankers coming to take over this country unless we vote for conservative govts sounds somewhat hollow.  We are losing our country because of the push by conservative govts (mainly LNP) over 3 decades to knock down our trade barriers and sell our govt owned assets.  I hope one day the australian community will see this for the betrayal that it was.

People are already waking up to it.

People have rejected the LNP in Queensland for that reason.

And right around the country, people are looking at their electricity bills after the repeal of the carbon "tax" and seeing the price still going up and up.

We need a Royal Commission into the privatisation of assets.
And the return of vital infrastructure that was stolen from us starting with Telstra, Qantas, Commonwealth bank (thanks to Keating) and the airports. 

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:42am

Bam wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:36am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:20am:
Not only that, it is the top end of town get all the handouts:

Not all the handouts, but a lot more than they need.

(note: I rearranged the bullet points for ease of discussion)

Quote:
–diesel fuel rebate
–concessionary tax rate on super contributions, since Howard the super rich can avoid huge amounts of tax
–negative gearing
–concessionary capital gains tax

All of which need to be looked at in the quest for balancing the budget.

[quote]–get away with transfer pricing
–“Australia tax”

Multinational taxation is a world-wide scourge. The government have identified it as a problem but they are all talk and no walk. What have they done? Nothing!


Quote:
–churches not taxed

Abolish the tax-free status of religious institutions. Allow genuine charitable works to be deducted against the tax at full value. Genuine charities would be unaffected (as long as they spend at least 30% of their income on charitable works) but sham religious organisations that do no real charitable works would start being taxed. Hillsong would be a case in point - $50 million income, $2 million in "charity" (at the most), no tax paid.

This is another area where a Royal Commission is needed.
[/quote]If we had a direct democracy all these things would be on the table but because we have so called representative govt none of these things are on the table and never will be because our representatives don't represent us or our interests.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:02am

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:42am:

Bam wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:36am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:20am:
Not only that, it is the top end of town get all the handouts:

Not all the handouts, but a lot more than they need.

(note: I rearranged the bullet points for ease of discussion)

Quote:
–diesel fuel rebate
–concessionary tax rate on super contributions, since Howard the super rich can avoid huge amounts of tax
–negative gearing
–concessionary capital gains tax

All of which need to be looked at in the quest for balancing the budget.

[quote]–get away with transfer pricing
–“Australia tax”

Multinational taxation is a world-wide scourge. The government have identified it as a problem but they are all talk and no walk. What have they done? Nothing!

[quote]–churches not taxed

Abolish the tax-free status of religious institutions. Allow genuine charitable works to be deducted against the tax at full value. Genuine charities would be unaffected (as long as they spend at least 30% of their income on charitable works) but sham religious organisations that do no real charitable works would start being taxed. Hillsong would be a case in point - $50 million income, $2 million in "charity" (at the most), no tax paid.

This is another area where a Royal Commission is needed.
[/quote]If we had a direct democracy all these things would be on the table but because we have so called representative govt none of these things are on the table and never will be because our representatives don't represent us or our interests. [/quote]
Swan started on quite a bit of this—baby bonus gone, PHC rebate, means tested, some single mums put on NewStart and even the super scam started being tackled only to be reversed by the Libs.

We won’t get Telstra back as such but maybe the NBN should be made unsaleable by referendum and I believe that will pass. Same with power—encourage rooftop and off-grid and coal fired generators become even more the standed fossil assets they are. Also encourage wind and tidal.

A new govt bank based on post offices & medicare offices is possible and help keep bank fees down.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by gandalf on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:03am

Bam wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:27am:
We need a Royal Commission into the privatisation of assets.


Good call!  [smiley=thumbup.gif]

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:03am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 7:32am:
No better than a bunch of schoolyard bullies.



But the day of reckoning is coming for the Emma's and pansi's.


No, the day of reckoning is coming for you and your stinking greedy elk. The redistribution of funds, getting our money back from the fraudsters that would take it all, given half a chance. The banksters and the white collar gangsters must be shaking in their shiny corporate shoes. The gap between rich and poor will only ever reach a certain point................BOTR!!!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:05am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:03am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 7:32am:
No better than a bunch of schoolyard bullies.



But the day of reckoning is coming for the Emma's and pansi's.


No, the day of reckoning is coming for you and your stinking greedy elk. The redistribution of funds, getting our money back from the fraudsters that would take it all, given half a chance. The banksters and the white collar gangsters must be shaking in their shiny corporate shoes. The gap between rich and poor will only ever reach a certain point................BOTR!!!


BOTR—juvenile romanticism. There will be no revolution in Australia. There wasn’t even one in Greece.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:06am

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:02am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:42am:

Bam wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:36am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:20am:
Not only that, it is the top end of town get all the handouts:

Not all the handouts, but a lot more than they need.

(note: I rearranged the bullet points for ease of discussion)

Quote:
–diesel fuel rebate
–concessionary tax rate on super contributions, since Howard the super rich can avoid huge amounts of tax
–negative gearing
–concessionary capital gains tax

All of which need to be looked at in the quest for balancing the budget.

[quote]–get away with transfer pricing
–“Australia tax”

Multinational taxation is a world-wide scourge. The government have identified it as a problem but they are all talk and no walk. What have they done? Nothing!

[quote]–churches not taxed

Abolish the tax-free status of religious institutions. Allow genuine charitable works to be deducted against the tax at full value. Genuine charities would be unaffected (as long as they spend at least 30% of their income on charitable works) but sham religious organisations that do no real charitable works would start being taxed. Hillsong would be a case in point - $50 million income, $2 million in "charity" (at the most), no tax paid.

This is another area where a Royal Commission is needed.
If we had a direct democracy all these things would be on the table but because we have so called representative govt none of these things are on the table and never will be because our representatives don't represent us or our interests. [/quote]
Swan started on quite a bit of this—baby bonus gone, PHC rebate, means tested, some single mums put on NewStart and even the super scam started being tackled only to be reversed by the Libs.

We won’t get Telstra back as such but maybe the NBN should be made unsaleable by referendum and I believe that will pass. Same with power—encourage rooftop and off-grid and coal fired generators become even more the standed fossil assets they are. Also encourage wind and tidal.

A new govt bank based on post offices & medicare offices is possible and help keep bank fees down.[/quote]The thing is will Swan's line be embraced by the ALP as the official party line for the next election.  The public are ready for it but is the Labor party???? 

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:07am
No choice if they don’t want to add to the Lib deficit!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:15am
George , Bam and Spartacus.

some good thoughts in there.

selling the cow instead of the milk....I like that.
actually we are going to sell the milk direct to china (well Norco are).

youre right of course,  only a nut sells their assets to pay for recurring expenses and both sides are doing it.

It is inter generational theft.

I heard a council is considering selling its parking meters to OS interests and from memory newman had the water assets up for sale.

The biggest abbatoir in OZ is now chinese owned. as is the biggest cotton farm

With the agreement on 457 visas, there is now the real prospect (not even a prospect..its already a reality) that the chineese can buy the cane farms, the train tracks, the mill, (produce electricity from the burning of the cane mulch), the port and bring in their own workers.  This is lunacy. I heard thru the grapevine they are experimenting with farming crocs in the slightly higher temperature waters outside the mills, more high quality protein for asia.

Its one thing to be the food bowl for asia, its another thing to just sell them the farm and the right to work the land. I actually cant see how an aussie makes one cent out of these operations.

Dreadful stuff and its even more ridiculous that the only people jumping up and down are Katter and The red headed loon from Lockyer.

Where are the nationals  FFS

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:33am
The nationals are in the pocket of anyone who will pay them to go to a good wedding.


;)


Privatisation has gone too far, and this shyte about allowing govt–owned enterprises to buy land and businesses here is lunacy. 457 scheme needs to be abolished, will always be rorted by business!

We have $1.7Trn in super funds under management so we should start being able to fund major developments ourselves.

Be nice to build CSIRO, BuMet and the ABC up again—we will face challenges from global warming, are already doing so. It is not with ignorance and burying our heads in the sand that we can overcome the problems coming our way. The real NBN needs to be run out too, the MTM crap is treason to Australia in my book!

Rescind all FTAs, just more treason to Australian workers.

Rebuild tariff walls to some extent, sick of this country being hollowed out because chinese made rubbish is too easy and cheap to dump here! Further tariff cuts to follow when other countries reduce their tariff walls.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 2:42pm
Meanwhile, in breaking news, it seems the PUP candidate in Ferny Grove was/is an undischarged bankrupt, thus disqualifying him from being a candidate.  He was also a PUP candidate in the 2013 Federal election, but it is possible the bankruptcy arose in the interim period.

Where to from here?  You can bet there will be intense interest given how knife edge things are.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 9:50pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 2:42pm:
Meanwhile, in breaking news, it seems the PUP candidate in Ferny Grove was/is an undischarged bankrupt, thus disqualifying him from being a candidate.  He was also a PUP candidate in the 2013 Federal election, but it is possible the bankruptcy arose in the interim period.

Where to from here?  You can bet there will be intense interest given how knife edge things are.

Why am I not surprised.? 
Hopefully it won't be a problem ,  as long as his primary votes would not affect the overall outcome, I think.
Hmm.

Otherwise..??  we'll all just have to wait and see.  :)

Looked like Pauline had a shot .. again.. we'll have to wait and see.  :)



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 9:55pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 7:32am:

Emma wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 12:20am:
To listen to the losing LNP members.. we just didn't understand their message. ( tell ya guys we understood perfectly well)

The Filth Flegg tried to explain why with such a huge majority meant ignorant newbies who hadn't a clue.. they were Newman's cronies and did wrong things . GASP.

Never let it be said the LNP take responsibility for their abysmal govt. Nor do they regret their arrogance.

The best description of the FORMER NEWMAN GOVT. ??

No better than a bunch of schoolyard bullies.

Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish.!!!!!!!!!



Not schoolyard bullies at all.
Just responsible adults who told you you have to eat your broccoli and you cant just skip straight to dessert.
of course, sooks like yourself and pansi with no self discipline think that you can just have your dessert and you cry like a baby when you have to do something a bit difficult (like pay back a bit of debt and actually put your shoulder to the wheel and sweat).

But the day of reckoning is coming for the Emma's and pansi's.
It may not come for them , but it will come for their children and grandchildren as the state is taken over by Asian bankers who would be just loving the idea of labor further mortgaging the state.
It inter generational theft by pansi and emma so they can live like the queen and their grandchildren will have to sort this mess out.

What disgraceful people you are.
You should be ashamed  >:( >:(


Are you for REAL.???  Nah  asscootie  ...  we are not disgraceful people at all. 

Such polarisation of the electorate !!.. what an ELECTION.!!! [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

THE PEOPLE have spoken,, and they don't want bullies with personal agendas.  That should be clear, even to such as you.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:17pm
oh and by the way ..you ignoramus..

I've battled all my life.. MY LIFE..

..no whinging man nor any children sit beside me.. so stop being such a presumptive arrogant creep,  because you really know nothing about me, or Pansi for that matter.

It is totally clear why you say what you do. And pity on you.

I had an excellent day on Saturday.!! :) :) :)
The best in yrs.. what with the resurrection of the Queensland people.. and then  just around POLL closing time,  a magnificent storm with 38 mil of rain and hail.. which has finally got my creek running again.  :) BLISS  :) :)


Bring on more rain please Mother.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:31am

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:05am:
BOTR—juvenile romanticism. There will be no revolution in Australia. There wasn’t even one in Greece.



Not a real revolution George, a people's revolution. Like this:

"A civil uprising popularly known as the Kitchenware Revolution brought down the Icelandic government after the collapse of the country's financial system in October 2008."

or

"2011–12 Spanish protests"


It wasn't the people that brought on the GFC and they've had enough of paying for it. The people of Greece said no more austerity, the people of other countries that have been affected by the GFC will do the same.

The people v the oligarchy......call it what you want.

We will do it at the next federal election.....no more squeezing the bottom rung of society, redistribute the wealth and the debt will be paid with less suffering to the minions. The money is there, it's just a matter of getting it from the right people/corporations.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:43am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:31am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:05am:
BOTR—juvenile romanticism. There will be no revolution in Australia. There wasn’t even one in Greece.



Not a real revolution George, a people's revolution. Like this:

"A civil uprising popularly known as the Kitchenware Revolution brought down the Icelandic government after the collapse of the country's financial system in October 2008."

or

"2011–12 Spanish protests"


It wasn't the people that brought on the GFC and they've had enough of paying for it. The people of Greece said no more austerity, the people of other countries that have been affected by the GFC will do the same.

The people v the oligarchy......call it what you want.

We will do it at the next federal election.....no more squeezing the bottom rung of society, redistribute the wealth and the debt will be paid with less suffering to the minions. The money is there, it's just a matter of getting it from the right people/corporations.


Good propaganda, Comrade. By voting in Labor and spending more money we will then save money. This is progress.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:50am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:31am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:05am:
BOTR—juvenile romanticism. There will be no revolution in Australia. There wasn’t even one in Greece.



Not a real revolution George, a people's revolution. Like this:

"A civil uprising popularly known as the Kitchenware Revolution brought down the Icelandic government after the collapse of the country's financial system in October 2008."

or

"2011–12 Spanish protests"


It wasn't the people that brought on the GFC and they've had enough of paying for it. The people of Greece said no more austerity, the people of other countries that have been affected by the GFC will do the same.

The people v the oligarchy......call it what you want.

We will do it at the next federal election.....no more squeezing the bottom rung of society, redistribute the wealth and the debt will be paid with less suffering to the minions. The money is there, it's just a matter of getting it from the right people/corporations.



you are beyond belief.

The people of Greece will do exactly what Angela Merkel of Germany tells them to do.
She OWNS them because, like you and your big spending ilk, they got themselves into debt.

And Angela Merkel and the german government aint got nothing on what the Peoples Republic of China are gunna do to your sorry ass when they come a knocking for the repayments.

There wont be any money of course in your socialist republic of bludgers, so they'll just take the assets

power
water
farmland
beaches
real estate
businesses.

Intergenerational theft by pansi and emma and the lazy layabout socialist protestors, so that their grandchildren can be the white trash of asia, cleaning the dunnies at the chinese restaurant.
being "comfort women " for rich Asian businessmen.

You should be ashamed >:( >:(

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:56am

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:10am:
LNP sells assets because that is the neocon belief.

Please don’t throw the blame onto the ordinary people of Australia. It is the LNP and its spivs and shonk hangers on are responsible for asset sales. All these damn asset sales mean the govt has a lot less revenue! the Howard privatisation of Telstra was the height of stupidity, but the Rodent wanted more money to hand out as pork!


Good propaganda, Comrade. Just don't tell anyone that Keating privatised Aerospace Technologies of Australia, Australian Industry Development Corporation, AUSSAT,  Australian Airlines, Commonwealth Serum Laboratories, the Commonwealth Bank, Moomba-Sydney Pipeline, Qantas and the Snowy Mountains Engineering Corporation. Let's also not mention that under Bligh Queensland Motorways Limited (Operating the Gateway Bridge and Logan Motorway tolling systems), the Port of Brisbane Authority, Forestry Plantations Queensland, Abbot Point Coal Terminal, and Coal-carrying rail lines were privatised. This is progress. 



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 4th, 2015 at 7:06am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:56am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:10am:
LNP sells assets because that is the neocon belief.

Please don’t throw the blame onto the ordinary people of Australia. It is the LNP and its spivs and shonk hangers on are responsible for asset sales. All these damn asset sales mean the govt has a lot less revenue! the Howard privatisation of Telstra was the height of stupidity, but the Rodent wanted more money to hand out as pork!


Good propaganda, Comrade. Just don't tell anyone that Keating privatised Aerospace Technologies of Australia, Australian Industry Development Corporation, AUSSAT,  Australian Airlines, Commonwealth Serum Laboratories, the Commonwealth Bank, Moomba-Sydney Pipeline, Qantas and the Snowy Mountains Engineering Corporation. Let's also not mention that under Bligh Queensland Motorways Limited (Operating the Gateway Bridge and Logan Motorway tolling systems), the Port of Brisbane Authority, Forestry Plantations Queensland, Abbot Point Coal Terminal, and Coal-carrying rail lines were privatised. This is progress. 



:D :D :D

when one saw that his main interests were French Antiques and Italian Suits, one always suspected he was a liberal mole in the labor party.

when one sees the Jesuit priest with big spending social programs like PPL and NDIS in liberal party, one can also assume he is a mole.

interesting that the ONLY bit of legislation Abbot has passed is a 2% tax slug on high income earners.

double agents :D :D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 4th, 2015 at 7:15am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:50am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:31am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:05am:
BOTR—juvenile romanticism. There will be no revolution in Australia. There wasn’t even one in Greece.



Not a real revolution George, a people's revolution. Like this:

"A civil uprising popularly known as the Kitchenware Revolution brought down the Icelandic government after the collapse of the country's financial system in October 2008."

or

"2011–12 Spanish protests"


It wasn't the people that brought on the GFC and they've had enough of paying for it. The people of Greece said no more austerity, the people of other countries that have been affected by the GFC will do the same.

The people v the oligarchy......call it what you want.

We will do it at the next federal election.....no more squeezing the bottom rung of society, redistribute the wealth and the debt will be paid with less suffering to the minions. The money is there, it's just a matter of getting it from the right people/corporations.



you are beyond belief.

The people of Greece will do exactly what Angela Merkel of Germany tells them to do.
She OWNS them because, like you and your big spending ilk, they got themselves into debt.

And Angela Merkel and the german government aint got nothing on what the Peoples Republic of China are gunna do to your sorry ass when they come a knocking for the repayments.

There wont be any money of course in your socialist republic of bludgers, so they'll just take the assets

power
water
farmland
beaches
real estate
businesses.

Intergenerational theft by pansi and emma and the lazy layabout socialist protestors, so that their grandchildren can be the white trash of asia, cleaning the dunnies at the chinese restaurant.
being "comfort women " for rich Asian businessmen.

You should be ashamed >:( >:(

No, you should be ashamed of peddling such simplistic nonsense!

We have a sovereign currency so we won’t be in the situation Greece is in either. If Greece leaves the Eurozone nobody will stop them then the can inflate and pay their bills.

Any similarity with Greece is this: both had rightwing govts before the GFC, govts that encouraged a real estate boom. The govt here used the boom revenue, and a boom is always temporary, to build into the Budget recurring spending on middleclass welfare and tax cuts ans did NOTHING to improve the ongoing regular economy. The extra spending, that Labor managed to reduce from minority govt, needs to be completely removed and spending the NBN needs to be stepped up.

We can cut $60Bn from the Budget—when is the Abbott led govt going to do that? Why are they going after pennies and trying to destroy education?

Your “heroes” Howard & Costello built in so many tax cuts and so much middleclass welfare that until that is removed no govt can do other than run a huge deficit in other than boom times! THAT is the reality any govt faces. This present shambles has just made things worse!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 4th, 2015 at 7:23am

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 7:15am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:50am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:31am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:05am:
BOTR—juvenile romanticism. There will be no revolution in Australia. There wasn’t even one in Greece.



Not a real revolution George, a people's revolution. Like this:

"A civil uprising popularly known as the Kitchenware Revolution brought down the Icelandic government after the collapse of the country's financial system in October 2008."

or

"2011–12 Spanish protests"


It wasn't the people that brought on the GFC and they've had enough of paying for it. The people of Greece said no more austerity, the people of other countries that have been affected by the GFC will do the same.

The people v the oligarchy......call it what you want.

We will do it at the next federal election.....no more squeezing the bottom rung of society, redistribute the wealth and the debt will be paid with less suffering to the minions. The money is there, it's just a matter of getting it from the right people/corporations.



you are beyond belief.

The people of Greece will do exactly what Angela Merkel of Germany tells them to do.
She OWNS them because, like you and your big spending ilk, they got themselves into debt.

And Angela Merkel and the german government aint got nothing on what the Peoples Republic of China are gunna do to your sorry ass when they come a knocking for the repayments.

There wont be any money of course in your socialist republic of bludgers, so they'll just take the assets

power
water
farmland
beaches
real estate
businesses.

Intergenerational theft by pansi and emma and the lazy layabout socialist protestors, so that their grandchildren can be the white trash of asia, cleaning the dunnies at the chinese restaurant.
being "comfort women " for rich Asian businessmen.

You should be ashamed >:( >:(

No, you should be ashamed of peddling such simplistic nonsense!

We have a sovereign currency so we won’t be in the situation Greece is in either. If Greece leaves the Eurozone nobody will stop them then the can inflate and pay their bills.

Any similarity with Greece is this: both had rightwing govts before the GFC, govts that encouraged a real estate boom. The govt here used the boom revenue, and a boom is always temporary, to build into the Budget recurring spending on middleclass welfare and tax cuts ans did NOTHING to improve the ongoing regular economy. The extra spending, that Labor managed to reduce from minority govt, needs to be completely removed and spending the NBN needs to be stepped up.

We can cut $60Bn from the Budget—when is the Abbott led govt going to do that? Why are they going after pennies and trying to destroy education?

Your “heroes” Howard & Costello built in so many tax cuts and so much middleclass welfare that until that is removed no govt can do other than run a huge deficit in other than boom times! THAT is the reality any govt faces. This present shambles has just made things worse!



good comeback George.  food for thought.  the pain does need to be shared , you are right.

the problem is, that no one is willing to accept even a tiny drop of pain.

its the patriotic duty of all Australians to suck it up and stop asking for more.

you know when the GFC hit south korea, people took their jewelry to the parliament and gave it up to be melted down to help out the treasuary.
When Australian citizens reach that level of commitment, we will have won the battle. at the moment, its all sloth, turpor, greed and NIMBY.

Hopeless.

and don't deny that the left side of politics, the international socialists, undermine patriotism all the time.
they hate the flag, they hate their own suburban backyard BBQ culture.  why would your average aussie battler feel patriotic duty towards people like the greens who continually call them racist scum. >:(

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 4th, 2015 at 7:39am
Point is, aqua, the pain is NOT being shared out equally. That is both why the debt is growing and why Abbott is so despised—an obvious attack on the less welloff with zero real pain for those on high income.

2% temporary levy, well semaphored so those that would be effected can take out more super or whatever to not have to pay it versus PERMANENTLY throwing young unemployed people off any support? And you wonder why monkey is unpopular?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:02am

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 7:39am:
Point is, aqua, the pain is NOT being shared out equally. That is both why the debt is growing and why Abbott is so despised—an obvious attack on the less welloff with zero real pain for those on high income.

2% temporary levy, well choreographed so those that would be effected can take out more super or whatever to not have to pay it versus PERMANENTLY throwing young unemployed people off any support? And you wonder why monkey is unpopular?
And also that many of their measures are ideological and not really directed to addressing the budget bottom line. The $8 medicare co-payment is a prime example. The money from this proposal will not go to paying off the debt but to setting up a medical research fund (corporate welfare for the pharmaceuticals). Its clearly ideological as are the education proposals designed to destroy universal access to education.  Time these bastards were kicked off the public purse.  We cant continue paying for representatives whose mission in life is to cheat us at every turn for their mates. 

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:25am

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:02am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 7:39am:
Point is, aqua, the pain is NOT being shared out equally. That is both why the debt is growing and why Abbott is so despised—an obvious attack on the less welloff with zero real pain for those on high income.

2% temporary levy, well choreographed so those that would be effected can take out more super or whatever to not have to pay it versus PERMANENTLY throwing young unemployed people off any support? And you wonder why monkey is unpopular?
And also that many of their measures are ideological and not really directed to addressing the budget bottom line. The $8 medicare co-payment is a prime example. The money from this proposal will not go to paying off the debt but to setting up a medical research fund (corporate welfare for the pharmaceuticals). Its clearly ideological as are the education proposals designed to destroy universal access to education.  Time these bastards were kicked off the public purse.  We cant continue paying for representatives whose mission in life is to cheat us at every turn for their mates. 



Yes, have to admit the co payment medical fund was total BS.
re the "throwing open of the uni's to all and sundry"
Is this the way to go?

I hear one third of new teaching grads this year wont get a job.
similar for nurses.
and a new dental school in north Qld has flooded the market with dentists who will be driving cabs.

Sure educations fine but a sensible bit of planning wouldn't go astray. as it is Unis will just sign up every cash paying student they can

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Outrage Bus on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:29am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:25am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:02am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 7:39am:
Point is, aqua, the pain is NOT being shared out equally. That is both why the debt is growing and why Abbott is so despised—an obvious attack on the less welloff with zero real pain for those on high income.

2% temporary levy, well choreographed so those that would be effected can take out more super or whatever to not have to pay it versus PERMANENTLY throwing young unemployed people off any support? And you wonder why monkey is unpopular?
And also that many of their measures are ideological and not really directed to addressing the budget bottom line. The $8 medicare co-payment is a prime example. The money from this proposal will not go to paying off the debt but to setting up a medical research fund (corporate welfare for the pharmaceuticals). Its clearly ideological as are the education proposals designed to destroy universal access to education.  Time these bastards were kicked off the public purse.  We cant continue paying for representatives whose mission in life is to cheat us at every turn for their mates. 



Yes, have to admit the co payment medical fund was total BS.
re the "throwing open of the uni's to all and sundry"
Is this the way to go?

I hear one third of new teaching grads this year wont get a job.
similar for nurses.
and a new dental school in north Qld has flooded the market with dentists who will be driving cabs.

Sure educations fine but a sensible bit of planning wouldn't go astray. as it is Unis will just sign up every cash paying student they can




Pynes proposed changes wont address that issue.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:56am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:25am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:02am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 7:39am:
Point is, aqua, the pain is NOT being shared out equally. That is both why the debt is growing and why Abbott is so despised—an obvious attack on the less welloff with zero real pain for those on high income.

2% temporary levy, well choreographed so those that would be effected can take out more super or whatever to not have to pay it versus PERMANENTLY throwing young unemployed people off any support? And you wonder why monkey is unpopular?
And also that many of their measures are ideological and not really directed to addressing the budget bottom line. The $8 medicare co-payment is a prime example. The money from this proposal will not go to paying off the debt but to setting up a medical research fund (corporate welfare for the pharmaceuticals). Its clearly ideological as are the education proposals designed to destroy universal access to education.  Time these bastards were kicked off the public purse.  We cant continue paying for representatives whose mission in life is to cheat us at every turn for their mates. 



Yes, have to admit the co payment medical fund was total BS.
re the "throwing open of the uni's to all and sundry"
Is this the way to go?

I hear one third of new teaching grads this year wont get a job.
similar for nurses.
and a new dental school in north Qld has flooded the market with dentists who will be driving cabs.

Sure educations fine but a sensible bit of planning wouldn't go astray. as it is Unis will just sign up every cash paying student they can




Pynes proposed changes wont address that issue.



No, indeed, they'll make it worse.
Every Vice Chancellor in the country will be offering Medical Degrees.

Actually Pynes proposals are a disaster for farmers.
The vet degrees will all move to the rich city uni's and we'll have lots of vets who want to desex dogs and overservice cat owners.

And the regional centres will have No Vet schools and every farmer will end up having to treat his own "large animals"
This is almost the case now. The young grads don't want to be mucking around with brahman bulls when they can make $1000 pinning the leg of someones pet canary

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Outrage Bus on Feb 4th, 2015 at 9:02am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:56am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:25am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:02am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 7:39am:
Point is, aqua, the pain is NOT being shared out equally. That is both why the debt is growing and why Abbott is so despised—an obvious attack on the less welloff with zero real pain for those on high income.

2% temporary levy, well choreographed so those that would be effected can take out more super or whatever to not have to pay it versus PERMANENTLY throwing young unemployed people off any support? And you wonder why monkey is unpopular?
And also that many of their measures are ideological and not really directed to addressing the budget bottom line. The $8 medicare co-payment is a prime example. The money from this proposal will not go to paying off the debt but to setting up a medical research fund (corporate welfare for the pharmaceuticals). Its clearly ideological as are the education proposals designed to destroy universal access to education.  Time these bastards were kicked off the public purse.  We cant continue paying for representatives whose mission in life is to cheat us at every turn for their mates. 



Yes, have to admit the co payment medical fund was total BS.
re the "throwing open of the uni's to all and sundry"
Is this the way to go?

I hear one third of new teaching grads this year wont get a job.
similar for nurses.
and a new dental school in north Qld has flooded the market with dentists who will be driving cabs.

Sure educations fine but a sensible bit of planning wouldn't go astray. as it is Unis will just sign up every cash paying student they can




Pynes proposed changes wont address that issue.



No, indeed, they'll make it worse.
Every Vice Chancellor in the country will be offering Medical Degrees.

Actually Pynes proposals are a disaster for farmers.
The vet degrees will all move to the rich city uni's and we'll have lots of vets who want to desex dogs and overservice cat owners.

And the regional centres will have No Vet schools and every farmer will end up having to treat his own "large animals"
This is almost the case now. The young grads don't want to be mucking around with brahman bulls when they can make $1000 pinning the leg of someones pet canary



Its the case in just about every key area the country needs. Again though thats not the fault of the unis, but graduates who just want jobs in the cities.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 4th, 2015 at 9:04am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:50am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:31am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:05am:
BOTR—juvenile romanticism. There will be no revolution in Australia. There wasn’t even one in Greece.



Not a real revolution George, a people's revolution. Like this:

"A civil uprising popularly known as the Kitchenware Revolution brought down the Icelandic government after the collapse of the country's financial system in October 2008."

or

"2011–12 Spanish protests"


It wasn't the people that brought on the GFC and they've had enough of paying for it. The people of Greece said no more austerity, the people of other countries that have been affected by the GFC will do the same.

The people v the oligarchy......call it what you want.

We will do it at the next federal election.....no more squeezing the bottom rung of society, redistribute the wealth and the debt will be paid with less suffering to the minions. The money is there, it's just a matter of getting it from the right people/corporations.



you are beyond belief.

The people of Greece will do exactly what Angela Merkel of Germany tells them to do.

Rubbish. They voted out a government that Merkel desperately wanted to keep in place.


Quote:
She OWNS them because, like you and your big spending ilk, they got themselves into debt.

Greece got themselves into difficulty because the previous government - dominated by the centre-right New Democracy party for years - did nothing to address tax evasion and corruption for years. If the new left-wing government starts cracking down on tax evasion and corruption, they would have no difficulty raising the funds to service the debt - WITHOUT austerity. Extorting coins from the poor will raise far less money than making wealthy Greeks pay the taxes they owe.


Quote:
And Angela Merkel and the german government aint got nothing on what the Peoples Republic of China are gunna do to your sorry ass when they come a knocking for the repayments.

That is just unfounded debt alarmism that grossly exaggerates Australia's debt position without any evidence. Australia's debt to GDP ratio is less than a tenth of that of Greece or Japan, and what little government debt we have can be serviced. Australia's AAA ratings from three major credit rating agencies is proof of that.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 4th, 2015 at 9:06am
Re nurses—hospitals only hire foreign nurses on 457 visas! This is the sort of crap the shambles has instituted in under 18months! Nothing good, nothing positive.

Swag keeps whinging about the load the retiring boomers are going to place, using grossly exaggerated figures from the IPA no doubt. The NBN could, still can under a decent govt of either persuasion, reduce these costs via eHealth and telehealth over FTTH. No hundreds new hospitals and nursing homes.

WHY, for what possible reason, was a sensible plan like ubiquitous FTTH, replacing the rotting copper and HFC, put aside for something like the horrific muddle that is the MTM? Doesn’t make sense on any level! Doesn’t save money, gives hardly any improvement and does not fix the state of the copper.

Makes Telstra richer—that really an aim any govt should have?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Lisa Jones on Feb 4th, 2015 at 9:10am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:56am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:10am:
LNP sells assets because that is the neocon belief.

Please don’t throw the blame onto the ordinary people of Australia. It is the LNP and its spivs and shonk hangers on are responsible for asset sales. All these damn asset sales mean the govt has a lot less revenue! the Howard privatisation of Telstra was the height of stupidity, but the Rodent wanted more money to hand out as pork!


Good propaganda, Comrade. Just don't tell anyone that Keating privatised Aerospace Technologies of Australia, Australian Industry Development Corporation, AUSSAT,  Australian Airlines, Commonwealth Serum Laboratories, the Commonwealth Bank, Moomba-Sydney Pipeline, Qantas and the Snowy Mountains Engineering Corporation. Let's also not mention that under Bligh Queensland Motorways Limited (Operating the Gateway Bridge and Logan Motorway tolling systems), the Port of Brisbane Authority, Forestry Plantations Queensland, Abbot Point Coal Terminal, and Coal-carrying rail lines were privatised. This is progress.


Awesomely stated!

Back in my Uni days, Keating was referred to as The Father of Economic Rationalism in Australia... for obviously very good reasons.





Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Feb 4th, 2015 at 9:26am

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 9:10am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:56am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:10am:
LNP sells assets because that is the neocon belief.

Please don’t throw the blame onto the ordinary people of Australia. It is the LNP and its spivs and shonk hangers on are responsible for asset sales. All these damn asset sales mean the govt has a lot less revenue! the Howard privatisation of Telstra was the height of stupidity, but the Rodent wanted more money to hand out as pork!


Good propaganda, Comrade. Just don't tell anyone that Keating privatised Aerospace Technologies of Australia, Australian Industry Development Corporation, AUSSAT,  Australian Airlines, Commonwealth Serum Laboratories, the Commonwealth Bank, Moomba-Sydney Pipeline, Qantas and the Snowy Mountains Engineering Corporation. Let's also not mention that under Bligh Queensland Motorways Limited (Operating the Gateway Bridge and Logan Motorway tolling systems), the Port of Brisbane Authority, Forestry Plantations Queensland, Abbot Point Coal Terminal, and Coal-carrying rail lines were privatised. This is progress.


Awesomely stated!

Back in my Uni days, Keating was referred to as The Father of Economic Rationalism in Australia... for obviously very good reasons.
Oh yes, Keating and Hawke worked for the business elite in this country, there is no doubt about that.  It was a betrayal of the most treacherous kind and we are paying the price now. All those wonderful government enterprises built with the taxes of working men and women over the decades and now the profits for that investment go into private hands and often foreign private hands. Or in the case of the Victorian electricity grid, into the hands of the government, the Singapore government that is.  Singapore loves its. They think its been a wonderful investment returning heaps into their government coffers every year. And lets face it. The more revenue the singapore government gets from the Victorian electricity grid the less tax they have to charge their people.  What a deal!!!!!!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 4th, 2015 at 7:01pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:02am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 7:39am:
Point is, aqua, the pain is NOT being shared out equally. That is both why the debt is growing and why Abbott is so despised—an obvious attack on the less welloff with zero real pain for those on high income.

2% temporary levy, well choreographed so those that would be effected can take out more super or whatever to not have to pay it versus PERMANENTLY throwing young unemployed people off any support? And you wonder why monkey is unpopular?
And also that many of their measures are ideological and not really directed to addressing the budget bottom line. The $8 medicare co-payment is a prime example. The money from this proposal will not go to paying off the debt but to setting up a medical research fund (corporate welfare for the pharmaceuticals). Its clearly ideological as are the education proposals designed to destroy universal access to education.  Time these bastards were kicked off the public purse.  We cant continue paying for representatives whose mission in life is to cheat us at every turn for their mates. 



Very well put ,  and kudos to St G o t F as well..!! 



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:11pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:56am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:10am:
LNP sells assets because that is the neocon belief.

Please don’t throw the blame onto the ordinary people of Australia. It is the LNP and its spivs and shonk hangers on are responsible for asset sales. All these damn asset sales mean the govt has a lot less revenue! the Howard privatisation of Telstra was the height of stupidity, but the Rodent wanted more money to hand out as pork!


Good propaganda, Comrade. Just don't tell anyone that Keating privatised Aerospace Technologies of Australia, Australian Industry Development Corporation, AUSSAT,  Australian Airlines, Commonwealth Serum Laboratories, the Commonwealth Bank, Moomba-Sydney Pipeline, Qantas and the Snowy Mountains Engineering Corporation. Let's also not mention that under Bligh Queensland Motorways Limited (Operating the Gateway Bridge and Logan Motorway tolling systems), the Port of Brisbane Authority, Forestry Plantations Queensland, Abbot Point Coal Terminal, and Coal-carrying rail lines were privatised. This is progress. 


and? does that make it ok for the libs to just keep selling? Two points you fail to notice

1. The public objects to selling of essential services which ends up driving up the cost of living. No one gives a crap about Aerospace technologies or coal carrying rail lines.

2. Both parties have tried selling assets, it hasn't worked. Time to find another way

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:17pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:11pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:56am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:10am:
LNP sells assets because that is the neocon belief.

Please don’t throw the blame onto the ordinary people of Australia. It is the LNP and its spivs and shonk hangers on are responsible for asset sales. All these damn asset sales mean the govt has a lot less revenue! the Howard privatisation of Telstra was the height of stupidity, but the Rodent wanted more money to hand out as pork!


Good propaganda, Comrade. Just don't tell anyone that Keating privatised Aerospace Technologies of Australia, Australian Industry Development Corporation, AUSSAT,  Australian Airlines, Commonwealth Serum Laboratories, the Commonwealth Bank, Moomba-Sydney Pipeline, Qantas and the Snowy Mountains Engineering Corporation. Let's also not mention that under Bligh Queensland Motorways Limited (Operating the Gateway Bridge and Logan Motorway tolling systems), the Port of Brisbane Authority, Forestry Plantations Queensland, Abbot Point Coal Terminal, and Coal-carrying rail lines were privatised. This is progress. 


and? does that make it ok for the libs to just keep selling? Two points you fail to notice

1. The public objects to selling of essential services which ends up driving up the cost of living. No one gives a crap about Aerospace technologies or coal carrying rail lines.

2. Both parties have tried selling assets, it hasn't worked. Time to find another way


Good propaganda, Comrade. Yet, George's claim was that "[i]t is the LNP and its spivs and shonk hangers on are responsible for asset sales." I am merely helping out a fellow comrade to make better propaganda. Perhaps you can help too by making your real estate company a public asset - you know, share your wealth and all that.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:21pm
Queensland!  State of Disrepair!  A 100% partner in the future of Australia!


.... or is it a symptom of the death of this country that once was home to giants and legends like my grandfathers and grandmothers?..... one grandfather had a four digit number in the AIF (under 3000).. the other rose to the top of his profession..... through hard work.... my father fought at Milne Bay and over the Owen Stanleys.... my history you need not know in its shadowed existence beneath such giants......when will my country wake up again and divest itself of thieves and liars?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:23pm
43 seats definite to ALP. 1 more likely.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:39pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:11pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:56am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:10am:
LNP sells assets because that is the neocon belief.

Please don’t throw the blame onto the ordinary people of Australia. It is the LNP and its spivs and shonk hangers on are responsible for asset sales. All these damn asset sales mean the govt has a lot less revenue! the Howard privatisation of Telstra was the height of stupidity, but the Rodent wanted more money to hand out as pork!


Good propaganda, Comrade. Just don't tell anyone that Keating privatised Aerospace Technologies of Australia, Australian Industry Development Corporation, AUSSAT,  Australian Airlines, Commonwealth Serum Laboratories, the Commonwealth Bank, Moomba-Sydney Pipeline, Qantas and the Snowy Mountains Engineering Corporation. Let's also not mention that under Bligh Queensland Motorways Limited (Operating the Gateway Bridge and Logan Motorway tolling systems), the Port of Brisbane Authority, Forestry Plantations Queensland, Abbot Point Coal Terminal, and Coal-carrying rail lines were privatised. This is progress. 


and? does that make it ok for the libs to just keep selling? Two points you fail to notice

1. The public objects to selling of essential services which ends up driving up the cost of living. No one gives a crap about Aerospace technologies or coal carrying rail lines.

2. Both parties have tried selling assets, it hasn't worked. Time to find another way


Good propaganda, Comrade. Yet, George's claim was that "[i]t is the LNP and its spivs and shonk hangers on are responsible for asset sales." I am merely helping out a fellow comrade to make better propaganda. Perhaps you can help too by making your real estate company a public asset - you know, share your wealth and all that.


libs are the ones trying to sell now misty ... nothing wrong with George's claim ... try to keep up sunshine,

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:49pm
you know what annoys me most..?
They weren't all tossed.. 
Why?  because by holding their seats the remaining LNP members will continue to lie and lie and continue to try to undermine good governance and the process of Law, here in Queensland. 
They shouldn't be allowed to say another f'n word..  I am so sick of the spin on every f'n thing.
Get my drift.?.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:51pm
CSL was sold by Costello. Someone is telling porkies.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:52pm

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:49pm:
you know what annoys me most..?
They weren't all tossed.. 
Why?  because by holding their seats the remaining LNP members will continue to lie and lie and continue to try to undermine good governance and the process of Law, here in Queensland. 
They shouldn't be allowed to say another f'n word..  I am so sick of the spin on every f'n thing.
Get my drift.?.


Good propaganda, Comrade. Another desal plant and some land for non existent dams will fix this.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:54pm
hey PMT 2 ..  get over it. You'r a loser.  Facts are facts Jack. ;D

So OK the people around the Mary River were badly impacted.  At the time WATER was a major concern here in SEQ.  SO.. we got some rainy yrs.. and Wyaralong Dam went ahead.  It wasn't expected to be filled in years.

BUT, before it was even officially completed, we got BULK RAIN.  IT WAS FULL.    Do you remember?.
Personally I think that is the only reason Logan City wasn't as badly affected byt the flood yrs as was the rest of the greater Sth East, In the nick of time so to speak.

You suggest the measures were unnecessary,  in HINDSIGHT.  Well that 's easy enough,  but not cogent to the matter here and now.
 

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:57pm

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:54pm:
hey PMT 2 ..  get over it. You'r a loser.  Facts are facts Jack. ;D


he's not a loser, he's merely a janitor ... he hopes to one day work his way up to loser status.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:01pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:57pm:

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:54pm:
hey PMT 2 ..  get over it. You'r a loser.  Facts are facts Jack. ;D


he's not a loser, he's merely a janitor ... he hopes to one day work his way up to loser status.


My dream is to be as "progressive" as to profit from extortionist rents and prices while sprouting the egalitarian mantra. This is progress.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:09pm
in case you missed it..


So OK the people around the Mary River were badly impacted.  At the time WATER was a major concern here in SEQ.  SO.. we got some rainy yrs.. and Wyaralong Dam went ahead.  It wasn't expected to be filled in years.

BUT, before it was even officially completed, we got BULK RAIN.  IT WAS FULL.    Do you remember?.
Personally I think that is the only reason Logan City wasn't as badly affected byt the flood yrs as was the rest of the greater Sth East, In the nick of time so to speak.

You suggest the measures were unnecessary,  in HINDSIGHT.  Well that 's easy enough,  but not cogent to the matter here and now.

PMT2 you are just a stirrer..  you have nothing but negativity .. poor you. Boo Hoo.

Bring me more rain Mother please.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:10pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:57pm:

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:54pm:
hey PMT 2 ..  get over it. You'r a loser.  Facts are facts Jack. ;D


he's not a loser, he's merely a janitor ... he hopes to one day work his way up to loser status.


My dream is to be as "progressive" as to profit from extortionist rents and prices while sprouting the egalitarian mantra. This is progress.


I'm not sure how profits are even remotely related to egalitarianism ... I can't wait for you to fill that gap  :D :D :D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:15pm

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:09pm:
in case you missed it..


So OK the people around the Mary River were badly impacted.  At the time WATER was a major concern here in SEQ.  SO.. we got some rainy yrs.. and Wyaralong Dam went ahead.  It wasn't expected to be filled in years.

BUT, before it was even officially completed, we got BULK RAIN.  IT WAS FULL.    Do you remember?.
Personally I think that is the only reason Logan City wasn't as badly affected byt the flood yrs as was the rest of the greater Sth East, In the nick of time so to speak.

You suggest the measures were unnecessary,  in HINDSIGHT.  Well that 's easy enough,  but not cogent to the matter here and now.

PMT2 you are just a stirrer..  you have nothing but negativity .. poor you. Boo Hoo.

Bring me more rain Mother please.


Good propaganda, Comrade. "Progressive" climate change warriors helped this. Without their scare campaign Qlders would have saved billions. Lucky we didn't. Progress.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:21pm
Indeed!  During the twelve year drought we suffered here... many governments looked for alternative ways of getting water to the people...

So - when the next twelve year drought cycle comes along.....

Are you still going to criticise desalination and other plants?

During the drought we looked into local history - a friend or two just up the road are descendants of the original settlers here - their family history books show a drought cycle...

Get used to it - this is a country of rain or drought...... and stop criticising governments for trying to ensure water supply to your grand-children...

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:23pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:21pm:
Indeed!  During the twelve year drought we suffered here... many governments looked for alternative ways of getting water to the people...

So - when the next twelve year drought cycle comes along.....

Are you still going to criticise desalination and other plants?

During the drought we looked into local history - a friend or two just up the road are descendants of the original settlers here - their family history books show a drought cycle...

Get used to it - this is a country of rain or drought...... and stop criticising governments for trying to ensure water supply to your grand-children...


Good propaganda, Comrade. Should we "progressives" also stop criticising businesses for supplying jobs? I think not - socialism or death! This is progress.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:25pm
Indeed Grappler.!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:29pm

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:25pm:
Indeed Grappler.!


Indeed, indeed! The 'local history' was so accurate that it rained in time to actually stop the desal and dam projects. But we "progressives" got a nice, warm buzz out of spending lots of money. This is progress.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:29pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:21pm:
Indeed!  During the twelve year drought we suffered here... many governments looked for alternative ways of getting water to the people...

So - when the next twelve year drought cycle comes along.....

Are you still going to criticise desalination and other plants?

During the drought we looked into local history - a friend or two just up the road are descendants of the original settlers here - their family history books show a drought cycle...

Get used to it - this is a country of rain or drought...... and stop criticising governments for trying to ensure water supply to your grand-children...


Good propaganda, Comrade. Should we "progressives" also stop criticising businesses for supplying jobs? I think not - socialism or death! This is progress.



Err umm  PMT2 ?  Go take a Bex and lie down. You are obviously overtired.  :)



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:31pm
Trolls are never overtired.. they just smell that way...

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:36pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:25pm:
Indeed Grappler.!


Indeed, indeed! The 'local history' was so accurate that it rained in time to actually stop the desal and dam projects. But we "progressives" got a nice, warm buzz out of spending lots of money. This is progress.



So the next time a flood comes along, you will equally criticise flood mitigation projects?

THIS is progress......

"The main purpose of artificial levees are to prevent flooding of the adjoining countryside and to slow natural course changes in a waterway to provide reliable shipping lanes for maritime commerce over time; they also confine the flow of the river, resulting in higher and faster water flow. Levees can be mainly found along the sea, where dunes are not strong enough, along rivers for protection against high-floods, along lakes or along polders. Furthermore, levees have been built for the purpose of empoldering, or as a boundary for an inundation area. The latter can be a controlled inundation by the military or a measure to prevent inundation of a larger area surrounded by levees. Levees have also been built as field boundaries and as military defences. More on this type of levee can be found in the article on dry-stone walls.

Levees can be permanent earthworks or emergency constructions (often of sandbags) built hastily in a flood emergency. When such an emergency bank is added on top of an existing levee it is known as a cradge"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levee

Good luck, comrade.... your name on the list says 'does not require assistance'....

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:38pm
As an aside...

I knew the rains were coming this /summer when the family Blue-Tongue left for higher ground in the raised gardens.... Bluey is doing very well up there next to his lady friend in the hollow log I installed...

Plenty of little Blueys next Spring.......

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:41pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:10pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:57pm:

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 10:54pm:
hey PMT 2 ..  get over it. You'r a loser.  Facts are facts Jack. ;D


he's not a loser, he's merely a janitor ... he hopes to one day work his way up to loser status.


My dream is to be as "progressive" as to profit from extortionist rents and prices while sprouting the egalitarian mantra. This is progress.


I'm not sure how profits are even remotely related to egalitarianism ... I can't wait for you to fill that gap  :D :D :D


misty, don't run away ..... again  :D :D :D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 5th, 2015 at 12:32am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:38pm:
As an aside...

I knew the rains were coming this /summer when the family Blue-Tongue left for higher ground in the raised gardens.... Bluey is doing very well up there next to his lady friend in the hollow log I installed...

Plenty of little Blueys next Spring.......


Lucky you..  love them.. 

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:48am

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:21pm:
Indeed!  During the twelve year drought we suffered here... many governments looked for alternative ways of getting water to the people...

So - when the next twelve year drought cycle comes along.....

Are you still going to criticise desalination and other plants?

During the drought we looked into local history - a friend or two just up the road are descendants of the original settlers here - their family history books show a drought cycle...

Get used to it - this is a country of rain or drought...... and stop criticising governments for trying to ensure water supply to your grand-children...


Good propaganda, Comrade. Should we "progressives" also stop criticising businesses for supplying jobs? I think not - socialism or death! This is progress.



Err umm  PMT2 ?  Go take a Bex and lie down. You are obviously overtired.  :)



I reckon PMT 2 could down a bottle of johnny walker red, 10 rohypnols, be water-boarded, sleep deprived for 7 days, have a general anaesthetic and a gun shot wound to the head and he would still whoop your sorry ass in a debate :D :D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 5th, 2015 at 7:37am
There are 4 seats still to be 'called.'

Lockyer.  Pauline is back in with a chance.  It is held by the LNP and with 83.9% counted, Pauline is 214 votes behind.  The ABC call it as 'in doubt.'  This does not worry the ALP because if Pauline wins, it is one less seat for the LNP. 

Maryborough.  The ALP look clear.  It is held by the LNP and with 85.3% counted, the ALP are ahead by 831 votes.  The ABC call it as a likely ALP win.

Mount Ommeney.  Held by the LNP and with 85.9% counted, the ALP trail by 367 votes.  The ABC call it as a likely LNP win.

Whitsunday.  Held by the LNP and with 83% counted, the ALP trail by just 88 votes.  The ABC call it as 'in doubt.'

Today, the three minor party people are expected to indicate who they will support.

Edit:

It is clear:

ALP have 43 seats.
LNP have 39 seats.
KAP have  2 seats
Ind. has   1 seat.

Total decided = 85, so those 4 above yet to clarify.

I reckon the ALP have Maryborough, taking them to 44.  I'm pretty confident the Independant, Willington (Nicklin) will support the ALP, giving them the magic 45.

On  seats, the best the LNP can do is 42 assuming they win Lockyer, Mount Ommeney and Whitsunday.  They would then need all three of the 'minor's to get to 45.  Unlikely they will get Willington.

BUT:

Ferny Grove.  The ALP have taken this off the LNP.  It is this seat where the PUP candidate was not qualified.  As at 8.23am this morning, the ALP were ahead by 509 votes with 82.6% counted.  The PUP bloke had 836 votes.  I doubt there will be a by-election.  They will be able to work out how many of that 836 nominated preferences, but who really knows.  The likely result of a by-election when things are so critical would  be very hard to call.




Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:18am
Pauline probably won’t get back in front—independents and minor parties lack the machine behind them manning prepoll booths, garnering postal votes by visiting nursing homes and the like.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:27am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:48am:

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:21pm:
Indeed!  During the twelve year drought we suffered here... many governments looked for alternative ways of getting water to the people...

So - when the next twelve year drought cycle comes along.....

Are you still going to criticise desalination and other plants?

During the drought we looked into local history - a friend or two just up the road are descendants of the original settlers here - their family history books show a drought cycle...

Get used to it - this is a country of rain or drought...... and stop criticising governments for trying to ensure water supply to your grand-children...


Good propaganda, Comrade. Should we "progressives" also stop criticising businesses for supplying jobs? I think not - socialism or death! This is progress.



Err umm  PMT2 ?  Go take a Bex and lie down. You are obviously overtired.  :)



I reckon PMT 2 could down a bottle of johnny walker red, 10 rohypnols, be water-boarded, sleep deprived for 7 days, have a general anaesthetic and a gun shot wound to the head and he would still whoop your sorry ass in a debate :D :D


Whup my ass?  Why he's just flyin' my shadow... and waiting for the axe to fall.... that's the other shadow he sees above him..

He offers not one solid thing, just his endless finger-pointing rants about 'progress' and comrades who don't exist.  How is that 'debate'?  You can build no foundation for debate on unproven assumptions and arbitrary name-calling.... after that any house of words built upon that shifting sand will collapse instantly of its own accord.

Does he bribe the judges or something?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:28am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:48am:

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:21pm:
Indeed!  During the twelve year drought we suffered here... many governments looked for alternative ways of getting water to the people...

So - when the next twelve year drought cycle comes along.....

Are you still going to criticise desalination and other plants?

During the drought we looked into local history - a friend or two just up the road are descendants of the original settlers here - their family history books show a drought cycle...

Get used to it - this is a country of rain or drought...... and stop criticising governments for trying to ensure water supply to your grand-children...


Good propaganda, Comrade. Should we "progressives" also stop criticising businesses for supplying jobs? I think not - socialism or death! This is progress.



Err umm  PMT2 ?  Go take a Bex and lie down. You are obviously overtired.  :)



I reckon PMT 2 could down a bottle of johnny walker red, 10 rohypnols, be water-boarded, sleep deprived for 7 days, have a general anaesthetic and a gun shot wound to the head and he would still whoop your sorry ass in a debate :D :D


that's because you're just as deluded as he is, therefore his rants actually make sense to you. No one else would even for a minute contemplate calling them debate

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by gandalf on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:51am

Aussie wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 7:37am:
There are 4 seats still to be 'called.'

Lockyer.  Pauline is back in with a chance.  It is held by the LNP and with 83.9% counted, Pauline is 214 votes behind.  The ABC call it as 'in doubt.'  This does not worry the ALP because if Pauline wins, it is one less seat for the LNP. 

Maryborough.  The ALP look clear.  It is held by the LNP and with 85.3% counted, the ALP are ahead by 831 votes.  The ABC call it as a likely ALP win.

Mount Ommeney.  Held by the LNP and with 85.9% counted, the ALP trail by 367 votes.  The ABC call it as a likely LNP win.

Whitsunday.  Held by the LNP and with 83% counted, the ALP trail by just 88 votes.  The ABC call it as 'in doubt.'

Today, the three minor party people are expected to indicate who they will support.

Edit:

It is clear:

ALP have 43 seats.
LNP have 39 seats.
KAP have  2 seats
Ind. has   1 seat.

Total decided = 85, so those 4 above yet to clarify.

I reckon the ALP have Maryborough, taking them to 44.  I'm pretty confident the Independant, Willington (Nicklin) will support the ALP, giving them the magic 45.

On  seats, the best the LNP can do is 42 assuming they win Lockyer, Mount Ommeney and Whitsunday.  They would then need all three of the 'minor's to get to 45.  Unlikely they will get Willington.

BUT:

Ferny Grove.  The ALP have taken this off the LNP.  It is this seat where the PUP candidate was not qualified.  As at 8.23am this morning, the ALP were ahead by 509 votes with 82.6% counted.  The PUP bloke had 836 votes.  I doubt there will be a by-election.  They will be able to work out how many of that 836 nominated preferences, but who really knows.  The likely result of a by-election when things are so critical would  be very hard to call.


Is Ferny Grove included in the 43 already "secured" by labor?

Poll Bludger noted a considerable narrowing in whitsunday in favour of labor yesterday - though they are still projected to narrowly lose.

I think the ABC projections are one by one being vindicated. For example Ferny Grove was given to labor from the very beginning. They seemed to be premature, but one by one they are all proving to have been right all along.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:53am
Yes, Ferny Grove has been 'given' to the ALP.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:58am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:48am:

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:21pm:
Indeed!  During the twelve year drought we suffered here... many governments looked for alternative ways of getting water to the people...

So - when the next twelve year drought cycle comes along.....

Are you still going to criticise desalination and other plants?

During the drought we looked into local history - a friend or two just up the road are descendants of the original settlers here - their family history books show a drought cycle...

Get used to it - this is a country of rain or drought...... and stop criticising governments for trying to ensure water supply to your grand-children...


Good propaganda, Comrade. Should we "progressives" also stop criticising businesses for supplying jobs? I think not - socialism or death! This is progress.



Err umm  PMT2 ?  Go take a Bex and lie down. You are obviously overtired.  :)



I reckon PMT 2 could down a bottle of johnny walker red, 10 rohypnols, be water-boarded, sleep deprived for 7 days, have a general anaesthetic and a gun shot wound to the head and he would still whoop your sorry ass in a debate :D :D


Whup my ass?  Why he's just flyin' my shadow... and waiting for the axe to fall.... that's the other shadow he sees above him..

He offers not one solid thing, just his endless finger-pointing rants about 'progress' and comrades who don't exist.  How is that 'debate'?  You can build no foundation for debate on unproven assumptions and arbitrary name-calling.... after that any house of words built upon that shifting sand will collapse instantly of its own accord.

Does he bribe the judges or something?



In the same way karmals praise of Mr Abbott is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true) ,
then PMT 2's references to feminists, muslims and other victim groups is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true).

you see, those 2 and myself can see the irony of the idealogues.

We need a PMT2 in parliament to point out that "the emperor truly does have no clothes" :D :D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Gnads on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:25am

Bam wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:36am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:20am:
Not only that, it is the top end of town get all the handouts:

Not all the handouts, but a lot more than they need.

(note: I rearranged the bullet points for ease of discussion)

Quote:
–diesel fuel rebate
–concessionary tax rate on super contributions, since Howard the super rich can avoid huge amounts of tax
–negative gearing
–concessionary capital gains tax

All of which need to be looked at in the quest for balancing the budget.

[quote]–get away with transfer pricing
–“Australia tax”

Multinational taxation is a world-wide scourge. The government have identified it as a problem but they are all talk and no walk. What have they done? Nothing!


Quote:
–churches not taxed

Abolish the tax-free status of religious institutions. Allow genuine charitable works to be deducted against the tax at full value. Genuine charities would be unaffected (as long as they spend at least 30% of their income on charitable works) but sham religious organisations that do no real charitable works would start being taxed. Hillsong would be a case in point - $50 million income, $2 million in "charity" (at the most), no tax paid.

This is another area where a Royal Commission is needed.
[/quote]

Re: your last paragraph..... Not just Hillsong...... The scam of Halal certification by Islamic organisations leave them for dead. They are making multi millions of dollars from this rort & as a so called "religion" would be raking this in tax free. Globally in the western world this scam is making a conservative estimate of $700 billion. Polititical correctness needs to take a back seat & this racket bought to a halt.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:27am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:58am:
In the same way karmals praise of Mr Abbott is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true) ,then PMT 2's references to feminists, muslims and other victim groups is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true).


Not even close. Karnal mostly keeps his comments relevant and in context. He doesn't just repeat the same thing over and over on every thread. That takes a certain amount of talent.

Misty on the other hand repeats the same crap on EVERY thread regardless of context. That requires ZERO talent, even my budgie can do that.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:32am
No surprise, but good to hear.  Wellington (Nicklin Independant) has just announced he will support the ALP.

Win Maryborough which is probable, then  the ALP have the magic number of 45.

(Subject to Ferny Grove.)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:33am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:58am:
We need a PMT2 in parliament ...



There aren't any vacancies, at the moment.




http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/public-service/prime-minister-tony-abbotts-cleaners-set-for-wage-negotiations-20141211-124yym.html

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:36am

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:58am:
In the same way karmals praise of Mr Abbott is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true) ,then PMT 2's references to feminists, muslims and other victim groups is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true).


Not even close. Karnal mostly keeps his comments relevant and in context. He doesn't just repeat the same thing over and over on every thread. That takes a certain amount of talent.

Misty on the other hand repeats the same crap on EVERY thread regardless of context. That requires ZERO talent, even my budgie can do that.



good propaganda comrade.
does your budgie tune in to the leftist elite media :D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:37am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:33am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:58am:
We need a PMT2 in parliament ...



There aren't any vacancies, at the moment.




http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/public-service/prime-minister-tony-abbotts-cleaners-set-for-wage-negotiations-20141211-124yym.html


ah, those poor unemployed honkys in broadmeadows.  why are they victimised so.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 5th, 2015 at 11:26am

Aussie wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 7:37am:
There are 4 seats still to be 'called.'

Lockyer.  Pauline is back in with a chance.  It is held by the LNP and with 83.9% counted, Pauline is 214 votes behind.  The ABC call it as 'in doubt.'  This does not worry the ALP because if Pauline wins, it is one less seat for the LNP. 

Maryborough.  The ALP look clear.  It is held by the LNP and with 85.3% counted, the ALP are ahead by 831 votes.  The ABC call it as a likely ALP win.

Mount Ommeney.  Held by the LNP and with 85.9% counted, the ALP trail by 367 votes.  The ABC call it as a likely LNP win.

Whitsunday.  Held by the LNP and with 83% counted, the ALP trail by just 88 votes.  The ABC call it as 'in doubt.'

Today, the three minor party people are expected to indicate who they will support.

It looks like the ALP will get to 44 seats, one short of a majority.

The independent has already indicated that he will support the ALP.

I expect the KAP members to support the ALP as well, perhaps in exchange for some condition that provides some support for regional Queensland. I don't expect KAP to provide a lot of legislative support, just confidence and supply in the interests of stability.

EDIT: I also expect the KAP to ask for increased staff. The previous government cut back the KAP's staff allowance just because they could.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 5th, 2015 at 11:35am

Gnads wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:25am:

Bam wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:36am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:20am:
–churches not taxed

Abolish the tax-free status of religious institutions. Allow genuine charitable works to be deducted against the tax at full value. Genuine charities would be unaffected (as long as they spend at least 30% of their income on charitable works) but sham religious organisations that do no real charitable works would start being taxed. Hillsong would be a case in point - $50 million income, $2 million in "charity" (at the most), no tax paid.

This is another area where a Royal Commission is needed.

Re: your last paragraph..... Not just Hillsong...... The scam of Halal certification by Islamic organisations leave them for dead. They are making multi millions of dollars from this rort & as a so called "religion" would be raking this in tax free. Globally in the western world this scam is making a conservative estimate of $700 billion. Polititical correctness needs to take a back seat & this racket bought to a halt.

Indeed ... I gave a Christian example but I did not intend to imply that it's only Christian churches that are rorting the system.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by gandalf on Feb 5th, 2015 at 11:40am

Bam wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 11:26am:
It looks like the ALP will get to 44 seats, one short of a majority.


With the important qualifier that one of those seats looks set to go back to the polls.

But Tony Abbott might have already ensured that the result stays the same.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 5th, 2015 at 11:48am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 11:40am:

Bam wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 11:26am:
It looks like the ALP will get to 44 seats, one short of a majority.

With the important qualifier that one of those seats looks set to go back to the polls.

I doubt it. The legal precedent is clear.

If they're seriously considering running a by-election due to the ineligibility of a candidate who only got 800 votes, they are ignoring legal precedent. If the ineligible candidate won the seat, a by-election may be justified, but not in this case when the candidate would be excluded from the count early.

The proper procedure - established by legal precedent - is to exclude the ineligible candidate from the count and then count the rest of the votes. The votes for the ineligible candidate are not informal. They would be distributed in accordance with the other preferences, if any.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:23pm
Update:

Lockyer:  Pauline now 183 votes behind.   Makes no real difference to the State outcome as it is held by the LNP.  If they lose it, it does relax the numbers at the top.

Maryborough
:  ALP now 747 ahead.  LNP have closed the gap a tad but still likely ALP win.

Mt. Ommaney:  ALP 201 behind.  Sneaking up, but still a likely LNP hold.

Whitsunday:  ALP now 305 behind.  Looks more like an LNP hold.

With Wellington it will be an ALP Government....subject to Ferny Grove.  On that seat, I agree with Gandalf.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:28pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:36am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:58am:
In the same way karmals praise of Mr Abbott is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true) ,then PMT 2's references to feminists, muslims and other victim groups is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true).


Not even close. Karnal mostly keeps his comments relevant and in context. He doesn't just repeat the same thing over and over on every thread. That takes a certain amount of talent.

Misty on the other hand repeats the same crap on EVERY thread regardless of context. That requires ZERO talent, even my budgie can do that.



good propaganda comrade.
does your budgie tune in to the leftist elite media :D


trying to mimic misty now?  ;D ;D ;D only one thing worse than a sad case like misty, that's the even sadder case trying to mimic him  ;D ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Happy Lucky on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:33pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:36am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:58am:
In the same way karmals praise of Mr Abbott is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true) ,then PMT 2's references to feminists, muslims and other victim groups is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true).


Not even close. Karnal mostly keeps his comments relevant and in context. He doesn't just repeat the same thing over and over on every thread. That takes a certain amount of talent.

Misty on the other hand repeats the same crap on EVERY thread regardless of context. That requires ZERO talent, even my budgie can do that.



good propaganda comrade.
does your budgie tune in to the leftist elite media :D


trying to mimic misty now?  ;D ;D ;D only one thing worse than a sad case like misty, that's the even sadder case trying to mimic him  ;D ;D
What's sadder is your wife using a Lebanese cucumber to mimic your inadequate penis. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:34pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:23pm:
With Wellington it will be an ALP Government....subject to Ferny Grove.  On that seat, I agree with Gandalf.

You may want to review the legal precedent. Sykes vs Cleary (1992) paragraph 31 (excerpts quoted):

Quote:
a primary vote for an unqualified candidate does not destroy the voter’s indication of his or her subsequent preferences... Although an indication of a voter’s preference for an unqualified candidate is a nullity and the indication of preference for that candidate cannot be treated as effective, the ballot paper is not informal. It was held (in re Wood) that “the vote is valid except to the extent that the want of qualification makes the particular indication of preference a nullity” and that there is no reason for disregarding the other indications of the voter’s preference

This decision also cites earlier precedent.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:37pm
For those intyerested in facts...here are the primary vote figures:


LNP         992,522                                              41.47      
ALP         903,364                                              37.7      
GRN         196,428                                                8.21      
PUP         118,293                                                4.94      
KAP           43,660                                             1.82      
FFP           27,736                                             1.16      
ONP           22,178                                             0.93      
Other     89,051                                             3.72

*Not the final figures.      

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:38pm

Bam wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:34pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:23pm:
With Wellington it will be an ALP Government....subject to Ferny Grove.  On that seat, I agree with Gandalf.

You may want to review the legal precedent. Sykes vs Cleary (1992) paragraph 31 (excerpts quoted):

Quote:
a primary vote for an unqualified candidate does not destroy the voter’s indication of his or her subsequent preferences... Although an indication of a voter’s preference for an unqualified candidate is a nullity and the indication of preference for that candidate cannot be treated as effective, the ballot paper is not informal. It was held (in re Wood) that “the vote is valid except to the extent that the want of qualification makes the particular indication of preference a nullity” and that there is no reason for disregarding the other indications of the voter’s preference

This decision also cites earlier precedent.


I am aware of it.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:40pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:23pm:
Update:

Lockyer:  Pauline now 183 votes behind.   Makes no real difference to the State outcome as it is held by the LNP.  If they lose it, it does relax the numbers at the top.

Maryborough
:  ALP now 747 ahead.  LNP have closed the gap a tad but still likely ALP win.

Mt. Ommaney:  ALP 201 behind.  Sneaking up, but still a likely LNP hold.

Whitsunday:  ALP now 305 behind.  Looks more like an LNP hold.

ABC is currently including Ferny Grove as another seat in doubt, ALP 348 votes ahead.

Poll Bludger has similar figures, but does not include Lockyer (probably because it's not an ALP vs LNP contest so makes no difference to the outcome). Poll Bludger also has Mansfield.

Ferny Grove ALP 348 ahead
Whitsunday ALP 416 behind
Mount Ommaney ALP 329 behind
Mansfield ALP 407 behind

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:13pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:36am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:58am:
In the same way karmals praise of Mr Abbott is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true) ,then PMT 2's references to feminists, muslims and other victim groups is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true).


Not even close. Karnal mostly keeps his comments relevant and in context. He doesn't just repeat the same thing over and over on every thread. That takes a certain amount of talent.

Misty on the other hand repeats the same crap on EVERY thread regardless of context. That requires ZERO talent, even my budgie can do that.



good propaganda comrade.
does your budgie tune in to the leftist elite media :D


trying to mimic misty now?  ;D ;D ;D only one thing worse than a sad case like misty, that's the even sadder case trying to mimic him  ;D ;D



This is progress....   [smiley=beer.gif].. but I'd suggest his talent is rather latent.....

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Neferti on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:18pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:36am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:58am:
In the same way karmals praise of Mr Abbott is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true) ,then PMT 2's references to feminists, muslims and other victim groups is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true).


Not even close. Karnal mostly keeps his comments relevant and in context. He doesn't just repeat the same thing over and over on every thread. That takes a certain amount of talent.

Misty on the other hand repeats the same crap on EVERY thread regardless of context. That requires ZERO talent, even my budgie can do that.



good propaganda comrade.
does your budgie tune in to the leftist elite media :D


trying to mimic misty now?  ;D ;D ;D only one thing worse than a sad case like misty, that's the even sadder case trying to mimic him  ;D ;D



This is progress....   [smiley=beer.gif].. but I'd suggest his talent is rather latent.....


Do you find everybody sniping at each other AMUSING?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:29pm

Bam wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:40pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:23pm:
Update:

Lockyer:  Pauline now 183 votes behind.   Makes no real difference to the State outcome as it is held by the LNP.  If they lose it, it does relax the numbers at the top.

Maryborough
:  ALP now 747 ahead.  LNP have closed the gap a tad but still likely ALP win.

Mt. Ommaney:  ALP 201 behind.  Sneaking up, but still a likely LNP hold.

Whitsunday:  ALP now 305 behind.  Looks more like an LNP hold.

ABC is currently including Ferny Grove as another seat in doubt, ALP 348 votes ahead.

Poll Bludger has similar figures, but does not include Lockyer (probably because it's not an ALP vs LNP contest so makes no difference to the outcome). Poll Bludger also has Mansfield.

Ferny Grove ALP 348 ahead
Whitsunday ALP 416 behind
Mount Ommaney ALP 329 behind
Mansfield ALP 407 behind


I'd put Ferny Grove into the irrelevant basket.  It is a possible nuisance but ....... ("Aussie"...do not post legal commentary on stuff you know zero about!)

Whitsunday is already an LNP seat....so.....no drama there.  Bonus if the ALP win.

Mount Ommaney
............same as Whitsunday.

Mansfield..............same as Whitsunday.

If the ALP win Maryborough (on track to do so,) then with Wellington (Nicklin)  they have the magic number of 45.

Would be wise to keep the two KAP bods happy....just in case.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:34pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:48am:

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:21pm:
Indeed!  During the twelve year drought we suffered here... many governments looked for alternative ways of getting water to the people...

So - when the next twelve year drought cycle comes along.....

Are you still going to criticise desalination and other plants?

During the drought we looked into local history - a friend or two just up the road are descendants of the original settlers here - their family history books show a drought cycle...

Get used to it - this is a country of rain or drought...... and stop criticising governments for trying to ensure water supply to your grand-children...


Good propaganda, Comrade. Should we "progressives" also stop criticising businesses for supplying jobs? I think not - socialism or death! This is progress.



Err umm  PMT2 ?  Go take a Bex and lie down. You are obviously overtired.  :)



I reckon PMT 2 could down a bottle of johnny walker red, 10 rohypnols, be water-boarded, sleep deprived for 7 days, have a general anaesthetic and a gun shot wound to the head and he would still whoop your sorry ass in a debate :D :D


Whup my ass?  Why he's just flyin' my shadow... and waiting for the axe to fall.... that's the other shadow he sees above him..

He offers not one solid thing, just his endless finger-pointing rants about 'progress' and comrades who don't exist.  How is that 'debate'?  You can build no foundation for debate on unproven assumptions and arbitrary name-calling.... after that any house of words built upon that shifting sand will collapse instantly of its own accord.

Does he bribe the judges or something?


Good propaganda, Comrade. The way forward is to endlessly criticise businesses for the woes of the world, demand they pay more tax, then add nothing to how productivity or real job creation can be achieved, all the while living off government hand outs. This is progress. 

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:36pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:58am:
In the same way karmals praise of Mr Abbott is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true) ,then PMT 2's references to feminists, muslims and other victim groups is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true).


Not even close. Karnal mostly keeps his comments relevant and in context. He doesn't just repeat the same thing over and over on every thread. That takes a certain amount of talent.

Misty on the other hand repeats the same crap on EVERY thread regardless of context. That requires ZERO talent, even my budgie can do that.


Good propaganda, Comrade. Let's obfuscate so it remains a secret from those conservatives that identity politics lies at the heart of "progressivism". This is progress.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Neferti on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:38pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:29pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:40pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:23pm:
Update:

Lockyer:  Pauline now 183 votes behind.   Makes no real difference to the State outcome as it is held by the LNP.  If they lose it, it does relax the numbers at the top.

Maryborough
:  ALP now 747 ahead.  LNP have closed the gap a tad but still likely ALP win.

Mt. Ommaney:  ALP 201 behind.  Sneaking up, but still a likely LNP hold.

Whitsunday:  ALP now 305 behind.  Looks more like an LNP hold.

ABC is currently including Ferny Grove as another seat in doubt, ALP 348 votes ahead.

Poll Bludger has similar figures, but does not include Lockyer (probably because it's not an ALP vs LNP contest so makes no difference to the outcome). Poll Bludger also has Mansfield.

Ferny Grove ALP 348 ahead
Whitsunday ALP 416 behind
Mount Ommaney ALP 329 behind
Mansfield ALP 407 behind


I'd put Ferny Grove into the irrelevant basket.  It is a possible nuisance but ....... ("Aussie"...do not post legal commentary on stuff you know zero about!)

Whitsunday is already an LNP seat....so.....no drama there.  Bonus if the ALP win.

Mount Ommaney
............same as Whitsunday.

Mansfield..............same as Whitsunday.

If the ALP win Maryborough (on track to do so,) then with Wellington (Nicklin)  they have the magic number of 45.

Would be wise to keep the two KAP bods happy....just in case.


NOBODY CARES!

Queensland is already shot. What happens when the next flood, cyclone or whatever happens?  Queensland is BROKE. Stiff crap. I certainly won't be donating anything as I did for Victoria.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:34pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:48am:

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:21pm:
Indeed!  During the twelve year drought we suffered here... many governments looked for alternative ways of getting water to the people...

So - when the next twelve year drought cycle comes along.....

Are you still going to criticise desalination and other plants?

During the drought we looked into local history - a friend or two just up the road are descendants of the original settlers here - their family history books show a drought cycle...

Get used to it - this is a country of rain or drought...... and stop criticising governments for trying to ensure water supply to your grand-children...


Good propaganda, Comrade. Should we "progressives" also stop criticising businesses for supplying jobs? I think not - socialism or death! This is progress.



Err umm  PMT2 ?  Go take a Bex and lie down. You are obviously overtired.  :)



I reckon PMT 2 could down a bottle of johnny walker red, 10 rohypnols, be water-boarded, sleep deprived for 7 days, have a general anaesthetic and a gun shot wound to the head and he would still whoop your sorry ass in a debate :D :D


Whup my ass?  Why he's just flyin' my shadow... and waiting for the axe to fall.... that's the other shadow he sees above him..

He offers not one solid thing, just his endless finger-pointing rants about 'progress' and comrades who don't exist.  How is that 'debate'?  You can build no foundation for debate on unproven assumptions and arbitrary name-calling.... after that any house of words built upon that shifting sand will collapse instantly of its own accord.

Does he bribe the judges or something?


Good propaganda, Comrade. The way forward is to endlessly criticise businesses for the woes of the world, demand they pay more tax, then add nothing to how productivity or real job creation can be achieved, all the while living off government hand outs. This is progress. 



You have proved the poverty of your debating skills and your need to endlessly repeat nonsense by not even beginning to address any issue I brought up.

You's not only flying in my shadow - you's the smoking pile on the ground....

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:37pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:34pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:34pm:
Good propaganda, Comrade. The way forward is to endlessly criticise businesses for the woes of the world, demand they pay more tax, then add nothing to how productivity or real job creation can be achieved, all the while living off government hand outs. This is progress.

You have proved the poverty of your debating skills and your need to endlessly repeat nonsense by not even beginning to address any issue I brought up.

You's not only flying in my shadow - you's the smoking pile on the ground....

Ignore the trolls. Feeding them only encourages them.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:40pm

Happy Lucky wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:33pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:36am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:58am:
In the same way karmals praise of Mr Abbott is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true) ,then PMT 2's references to feminists, muslims and other victim groups is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true).


Not even close. Karnal mostly keeps his comments relevant and in context. He doesn't just repeat the same thing over and over on every thread. That takes a certain amount of talent.

Misty on the other hand repeats the same crap on EVERY thread regardless of context. That requires ZERO talent, even my budgie can do that.



good propaganda comrade.
does your budgie tune in to the leftist elite media :D


trying to mimic misty now?  ;D ;D ;D only one thing worse than a sad case like misty, that's the even sadder case trying to mimic him  ;D ;D
What's sadder is your wife using a Lebanese cucumber to mimic your inadequate penis. ;D ;D ;D ;D


projecting again happy spastic

From what your wife told me, even the cucumber was a better lover than you   :D :D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:41pm

Neferti wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:18pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:36am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:58am:
In the same way karmals praise of Mr Abbott is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true) ,then PMT 2's references to feminists, muslims and other victim groups is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true).


Not even close. Karnal mostly keeps his comments relevant and in context. He doesn't just repeat the same thing over and over on every thread. That takes a certain amount of talent.

Misty on the other hand repeats the same crap on EVERY thread regardless of context. That requires ZERO talent, even my budgie can do that.



good propaganda comrade.
does your budgie tune in to the leftist elite media :D


trying to mimic misty now?  ;D ;D ;D only one thing worse than a sad case like misty, that's the even sadder case trying to mimic him  ;D ;D



This is progress....   [smiley=beer.gif].. but I'd suggest his talent is rather latent.....


Do you find everybody sniping at each other AMUSING?


why? are you going to pretend you don't now? ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:42pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:58am:
In the same way karmals praise of Mr Abbott is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true) ,then PMT 2's references to feminists, muslims and other victim groups is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true).


Not even close. Karnal mostly keeps his comments relevant and in context. He doesn't just repeat the same thing over and over on every thread. That takes a certain amount of talent.

Misty on the other hand repeats the same crap on EVERY thread regardless of context. That requires ZERO talent, even my budgie can do that.


Good propaganda, Comrade. Let's obfuscate so it remains a secret from those conservatives that identity politics lies at the heart of "progressivism". This is progress.

what exactly do you think you're doing  :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:08pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:41pm:

Neferti wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:18pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:36am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:58am:
In the same way karmals praise of Mr Abbott is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true) ,then PMT 2's references to feminists, muslims and other victim groups is cutting and satirical (because it is basicly true).


Not even close. Karnal mostly keeps his comments relevant and in context. He doesn't just repeat the same thing over and over on every thread. That takes a certain amount of talent.

Misty on the other hand repeats the same crap on EVERY thread regardless of context. That requires ZERO talent, even my budgie can do that.



good propaganda comrade.
does your budgie tune in to the leftist elite media :D


trying to mimic misty now?  ;D ;D ;D only one thing worse than a sad case like misty, that's the even sadder case trying to mimic him  ;D ;D



This is progress....   [smiley=beer.gif].. but I'd suggest his talent is rather latent.....


Do you find everybody sniping at each other AMUSING?


why? are you going to pretend you don't now? ;D ;D ;D


To Nef:-   Nah - I just like a neat turn of the scimitar phrase that neatly slices the foreskin off any Discussion Infidel..... in one fell swoop....

Just a little sideshow amusement along the endless road of human fallacies...... and all our days have lit the road of fools to dusty death....

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:47pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:34pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:48am:

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:21pm:
Indeed!  During the twelve year drought we suffered here... many governments looked for alternative ways of getting water to the people...

So - when the next twelve year drought cycle comes along.....

Are you still going to criticise desalination and other plants?

During the drought we looked into local history - a friend or two just up the road are descendants of the original settlers here - their family history books show a drought cycle...

Get used to it - this is a country of rain or drought...... and stop criticising governments for trying to ensure water supply to your grand-children...


Good propaganda, Comrade. Should we "progressives" also stop criticising businesses for supplying jobs? I think not - socialism or death! This is progress.



Err umm  PMT2 ?  Go take a Bex and lie down. You are obviously overtired.  :)



I reckon PMT 2 could down a bottle of johnny walker red, 10 rohypnols, be water-boarded, sleep deprived for 7 days, have a general anaesthetic and a gun shot wound to the head and he would still whoop your sorry ass in a debate :D :D


Whup my ass?  Why he's just flyin' my shadow... and waiting for the axe to fall.... that's the other shadow he sees above him..

He offers not one solid thing, just his endless finger-pointing rants about 'progress' and comrades who don't exist.  How is that 'debate'?  You can build no foundation for debate on unproven assumptions and arbitrary name-calling.... after that any house of words built upon that shifting sand will collapse instantly of its own accord.

Does he bribe the judges or something?


Good propaganda, Comrade. The way forward is to endlessly criticise businesses for the woes of the world, demand they pay more tax, then add nothing to how productivity or real job creation can be achieved, all the while living off government hand outs. This is progress. 



You have proved the poverty of your debating skills and your need to endlessly repeat nonsense by not even beginning to address any issue I brought up.

You's not only flying in my shadow - you's the smoking pile on the ground....


Good propaganda, Comrade. Dodge, weave, obfuscate, deny.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:13pm
whereas Comrade you say nothing of consequence..what are YOU complaining about?

Progress..??  Well that's the only hint I have of your agenda.! 

Like you know??  climate change is make believe.?  That's about it isn't it PMT2 ?  You don't say anything at all really.. thats just a guess .. ;D

But am I right..?? you know , as in  CORRECT.  YOU deny climate change.  Would that be a fair bet..??  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:24pm

Emma wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:13pm:
whereas Comrade you say nothing of consequence..what are YOU complaining about?

Progress..??  Well that's the only hint I have of your agenda.! 

Like you know??  climate change is make believe.?  That's about it isn't it PMT2 ?  You don't say anything at all really.. thats just a guess .. ;D

But am I right..?? you know , as in  CORRECT.  YOU deny climate change.  Would that be a fair bet..??  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Good scribble, Comrade. As a "progressive" climate change is up the top somewhere on our table of commandments. We "progressives" need to stop all businesses and conservatives from pumping CO2 into the air. Only we "progressives" may use the benefits of CO2. This is progress.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:59pm
Ah Ha   so now we know folks.   ;D :D

PMT2  definitely needs a Bex and a good lie down.

He is all stressed because of progress.!!  He can't fathom why anyone could think any different.! Ergo they aren't really very clever people. Compared to PMT2 that is.  :D

Well PMT2..( and I'd wear that sobriquet with pride if I were you  .. )   ::) ),  You did your best, woeful as it was,
but you could not deny that I was correct.!!   Love it.   :)

Hiding behing obscure statements we have a climate change denier.  Obviously an Abbott fan.   :)

Deny it you shameful piece of humanity.  Go on.!!  :). 

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Feb 5th, 2015 at 11:01pm

Emma wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:59pm:
Ah Ha   so now we know folks.   ;D :D

PMT2  definitely needs a Bex and a good lie down.

He is all stressed because of progress.!!  He can't fathom why anyone could think any different.! Ergo they aren't really very clever people. Compared to PMT2 that is.  :D

Well PMT2..( and I'd wear that sobriquet with pride if I were you  .. )   ::) ),  You did your best, woeful as it was,
but you could not deny that I was correct.!!   Love it.   :)

Hiding behing obscure statements we have a climate change denier.  Obviously an Abbott fan.   :)

Deny it you shameful piece of humanity.  Go on.!!  :). 


Should we put climate deniers to death?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Feb 5th, 2015 at 11:38pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 11:01pm:

Emma wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 10:59pm:
Ah Ha   so now we know folks.   ;D :D

PMT2  definitely needs a Bex and a good lie down.

He is all stressed because of progress.!!  He can't fathom why anyone could think any different.! Ergo they aren't really very clever people. Compared to PMT2 that is.  :D

Well PMT2..( and I'd wear that sobriquet with pride if I were you  .. )   ::) ),  You did your best, woeful as it was,
but you could not deny that I was correct.!!   Love it.   :)

Hiding behing obscure statements we have a climate change denier.  Obviously an Abbott fan.   :)

Deny it you shameful piece of humanity.  Go on.!!  :). 


Should we put climate deniers to death?


Of course, this is progress.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 5th, 2015 at 11:39pm
my goodness , you ARE an extremist.!!

Hmm  nah   ..  I think ridicule suffices. 8-)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 5th, 2015 at 11:48pm
beep beep

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 6th, 2015 at 7:27pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:29pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:40pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:23pm:
Update:

Lockyer:  Pauline now 183 votes behind.   Makes no real difference to the State outcome as it is held by the LNP.  If they lose it, it does relax the numbers at the top.

Maryborough
:  ALP now 747 ahead.  LNP have closed the gap a tad but still likely ALP win.

Mt. Ommaney:  ALP 201 behind.  Sneaking up, but still a likely LNP hold.

Whitsunday:  ALP now 305 behind.  Looks more like an LNP hold.

ABC is currently including Ferny Grove as another seat in doubt, ALP 348 votes ahead.

Poll Bludger has similar figures, but does not include Lockyer (probably because it's not an ALP vs LNP contest so makes no difference to the outcome). Poll Bludger also has Mansfield.

Ferny Grove ALP 348 ahead
Whitsunday ALP 416 behind
Mount Ommaney ALP 329 behind
Mansfield ALP 407 behind


I'd put Ferny Grove into the irrelevant basket.  It is a possible nuisance but ....... ("Aussie"...do not post legal commentary on stuff you know zero about!)

Whitsunday is already an LNP seat....so.....no drama there.  Bonus if the ALP win.

Mount Ommaney
............same as Whitsunday.

Mansfield..............same as Whitsunday.

If the ALP win Maryborough (on track to do so,) then with Wellington (Nicklin)  they have the magic number of 45.

Would be wise to keep the two KAP bods happy....just in case.


Maryborough is an ALP win, and that with Wellington, takes Labor to the required 45 to govern (with the Independant Wellington's support.)

As at 3.53pm today, with 91.47% counted, the ALP is 746 ahead in Maryborough.

Whitsunday.  Held by the LNP.  As at 3.03pm today, with 86.58% counted, LNP ahead by 313.  They should hold.

Lockyer:  Held by the LNP.  As at 4.13pm today, with 91.11% counted, Pauline trails by 183 votes.  She is just hanging on.  Hard to win from there.

Mt Ommaney:  Held by the LNP.  As at 4.13pm today with 92.52% counted, LNP ahead by 187.  They should hold.

Ferny Grove.  Well it is already in the bag for the ALP, but there is still that doubt about what will happen given the disqualification of the PUP candidate.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Feb 6th, 2015 at 8:56pm
Close - might see a few re-counts there.....


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Feb 6th, 2015 at 8:58pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:47pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:34pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 8:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:48am:

Emma wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:21pm:
Indeed!  During the twelve year drought we suffered here... many governments looked for alternative ways of getting water to the people...

So - when the next twelve year drought cycle comes along.....

Are you still going to criticise desalination and other plants?

During the drought we looked into local history - a friend or two just up the road are descendants of the original settlers here - their family history books show a drought cycle...

Get used to it - this is a country of rain or drought...... and stop criticising governments for trying to ensure water supply to your grand-children...


Good propaganda, Comrade. Should we "progressives" also stop criticising businesses for supplying jobs? I think not - socialism or death! This is progress.



Err umm  PMT2 ?  Go take a Bex and lie down. You are obviously overtired.  :)



I reckon PMT 2 could down a bottle of johnny walker red, 10 rohypnols, be water-boarded, sleep deprived for 7 days, have a general anaesthetic and a gun shot wound to the head and he would still whoop your sorry ass in a debate :D :D


Whup my ass?  Why he's just flyin' my shadow... and waiting for the axe to fall.... that's the other shadow he sees above him..

He offers not one solid thing, just his endless finger-pointing rants about 'progress' and comrades who don't exist.  How is that 'debate'?  You can build no foundation for debate on unproven assumptions and arbitrary name-calling.... after that any house of words built upon that shifting sand will collapse instantly of its own accord.

Does he bribe the judges or something?


Good propaganda, Comrade. The way forward is to endlessly criticise businesses for the woes of the world, demand they pay more tax, then add nothing to how productivity or real job creation can be achieved, all the while living off government hand outs. This is progress. 



You have proved the poverty of your debating skills and your need to endlessly repeat nonsense by not even beginning to address any issue I brought up.

You's not only flying in my shadow - you's the smoking pile on the ground....


Good propaganda, Comrade. Dodge, weave, obfuscate, deny.



You're the expert - I bow to your insipid wisdom...

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 6th, 2015 at 10:40pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 6th, 2015 at 7:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 6:29pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:40pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 5:23pm:
Update:

Lockyer:  Pauline now 183 votes behind.   Makes no real difference to the State outcome as it is held by the LNP.  If they lose it, it does relax the numbers at the top.

Maryborough
:  ALP now 747 ahead.  LNP have closed the gap a tad but still likely ALP win.

Mt. Ommaney:  ALP 201 behind.  Sneaking up, but still a likely LNP hold.

Whitsunday:  ALP now 305 behind.  Looks more like an LNP hold.

ABC is currently including Ferny Grove as another seat in doubt, ALP 348 votes ahead.

Poll Bludger has similar figures, but does not include Lockyer (probably because it's not an ALP vs LNP contest so makes no difference to the outcome). Poll Bludger also has Mansfield.

Ferny Grove ALP 348 ahead
Whitsunday ALP 416 behind
Mount Ommaney ALP 329 behind
Mansfield ALP 407 behind


I'd put Ferny Grove into the irrelevant basket.  It is a possible nuisance but ....... ("Aussie"...do not post legal commentary on stuff you know zero about!)

Whitsunday is already an LNP seat....so.....no drama there.  Bonus if the ALP win.

Mount Ommaney
............same as Whitsunday.

Mansfield..............same as Whitsunday.

If the ALP win Maryborough (on track to do so,) then with Wellington (Nicklin)  they have the magic number of 45.

Would be wise to keep the two KAP bods happy....just in case.


Maryborough is an ALP win, and that with Wellington, takes Labor to the required 45 to govern (with the Independant Wellington's support.)

As at 3.53pm today, with 91.47% counted, the ALP is 746 ahead in Maryborough.

Whitsunday.  Held by the LNP.  As at 3.03pm today, with 86.58% counted, LNP ahead by 313.  They should hold.

Lockyer:  Held by the LNP.  As at 4.13pm today, with 91.11% counted, Pauline trails by 183 votes.  She is just hanging on.  Hard to win from there.

Mt Ommaney:  Held by the LNP.  As at 4.13pm today with 92.52% counted, LNP ahead by 187.  They should hold.

Ferny Grove.  Well it is already in the bag for the ALP, but there is still that doubt about what will happen given the disqualification of the PUP candidate.



Sounds promising Aussie.

I really cannot see how a bi-election could be justified in Ferny Grove.
It would be a bad choice, and would NOT be looked on kindly by the constituents.
As I understand it,  the PUP preferences would have no impact on the outcome and as such no justification for the expense and angst such a move would create could be lawfully shown.

I think any attempt to do so would be seen in the worst possible light by the people of Queensland.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Sir Camp_bell Newman on Feb 7th, 2015 at 2:09pm
Ousted Queensland Premier Campbell Newman is being asked to consider standing for Liberal preselection in a federal Victorian seat.

The former secretary of the Wodonga Liberal Party branch, Lloyd Deane, wrote to Mr Newman this week asking him to reverse his decision to quit politics and stand for preselection in the seat of Indi, in northern Victoria.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-07/campbell-newman-sounded-out-about-running-in-victorian-seat-indi/6077502

Interesting.  I wonder why they don't want Mirabella back.  Secondly, why would Victoria want a QLD castoff?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2015 at 2:15pm
It would be weird if he even considered it.  He is a Queenslander, a failure...and he ought know he would have zero attraction to the local Libs in Indi.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2015 at 2:48pm
Sooooo, the Qld LNP have selected their 'new' Leadership Team......with a return to the tired old past.  The Borg and JP.  Has beens.

Link.

I'm surprised.  It is a poisoned chalice at the moment, and I thought they go for a sacrificial lamb like Fiona Simpson, Tim Mander or Scott Emerson.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2015 at 3:46pm
More on the Ferny Grove issue.  This link discusses an old precedent which indicates there would be no by-election, and the seat will go to Labor.

Link.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 7th, 2015 at 4:26pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2015 at 3:46pm:
More on the Ferny Grove issue.  This link discusses an old precedent which indicates there would be no by-election, and the seat will go to Labor.

Link.

An interesting article. It reinforces my view that the ineligible candidate is simply excluded from the count.

It does complicate things a little though; other legal precedent I have seen suggests that the first preferences are annulled, but the remaining preferences (if any) are still valid and should be distributed as normal.

In any event, a by-election in Ferny Grove looks unlikely.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 7th, 2015 at 5:01pm

Bam wrote on Feb 7th, 2015 at 4:26pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2015 at 3:46pm:
More on the Ferny Grove issue.  This link discusses an old precedent which indicates there would be no by-election, and the seat will go to Labor.

Link.

An interesting article. It reinforces my view that the ineligible candidate is simply excluded from the count.

It does complicate things a little though; other legal precedent I have seen suggests that the first preferences are annulled, but the remaining preferences (if any) are still valid and should be distributed as normal.

In any event, a by-election in Ferny Grove looks unlikely.


Yeas.....I think you linked the reference to it, and I agree a by-election is unlikely but those precedents did not stop Bruce McIvor, the LNP Party President mouthing off about there being one.  In due course, he (McIvor) will be identified as part of the LNP problem up here.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 7th, 2015 at 6:05pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
Sooooo, the Qld LNP have selected their 'new' Leadership Team......with a return to the tired old past.  The Borg and JP.  Has beens.

Link.

I'm surprised.  It is a poisoned chalice at the moment, and I thought they go for a sacrificial lamb like Fiona Simpson, Tim Mander or Scott Emerson.


It shows just how bereft of talent the LNP is ... two old dinosaurs that have failed repeatedly, and they're given another go. It looks like labor will be in for another 20 yrs.  :D :D :D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by cods on Feb 7th, 2015 at 6:25pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
Sooooo, the Qld LNP have selected their 'new' Leadership Team......with a return to the tired old past.  The Borg and JP.  Has beens.

Link.

I'm surprised.  It is a poisoned chalice at the moment, and I thought they go for a sacrificial lamb like Fiona Simpson, Tim Mander or Scott Emerson.



you mean shortarse is the sacrificial lamb....wow does he know??.. dont say whats he got to do with this.. because thats what you are claiming the Lib leadership is in Qld...

if it goes with the States its got to go with the Feds thats for sure...and after the debacle of Labor in Fed..  ::) ::)

I like the look of this guy he looks ok to me....and at least he did have a job with the last govt....

whats whatshername the premier done???...

why are you concentrating on the Libs.. I would have thought you would be singing the praises of what Labor are doing to make life so much more rewarding in Qld.....have they rolled out the red carpet for the bikies??? ;D ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 7th, 2015 at 8:00pm

cods wrote on Feb 7th, 2015 at 6:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
Sooooo, the Qld LNP have selected their 'new' Leadership Team......with a return to the tired old past.  The Borg and JP.  Has beens.

Link.

I'm surprised.  It is a poisoned chalice at the moment, and I thought they go for a sacrificial lamb like Fiona Simpson, Tim Mander or Scott Emerson.



you mean shortarse is the sacrificial lamb....wow does he know??.. dont say whats he got to do with this.. because thats what you are claiming the Lib leadership is in Qld...

if it goes with the States its got to go with the Feds thats for sure...and after the debacle of Labor in Fed..  ::) ::)

I like the look of this guy he looks ok to me....and at least he did have a job with the last govt....

whats whatshername the premier done???...newman? not much

why are you concentrating on the Libs.. I would have thought you would be singing the praises of what Labor are doing to make life so much more rewarding in Qld.....have they rolled out the red carpet for the bikies??? ;D ;D


are you drunk again? what has shorten to do with this?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Neferti on Feb 7th, 2015 at 8:13pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2015 at 2:15pm:
It would be weird if he even considered it.  He is a Queenslander, a failure...and he ought know he would have zero attraction to the local Libs in Indi.



Quote:
Campbell Newman was born on 12 August 1963 in Canberra, to parents who later both represented Tasmania in the federal parliament and were both ministers in Liberal–National coalition governments. His father, Kevin, represented the federal seat of Bass from 1975 to 1984, and was a minister in the Fraser government. His mother, Jocelyn Newman (née Mullett), was a Senator for Tasmania (1986–2002) and a minister in the Howard government. Campbell Newman was raised in Tasmania, attending Launceston Church Grammar School, then returned to Canberra.[4]

He joined the Australian Army as a staff cadet at the Royal Military College, Duntroon in 1981, graduating as a lieutenant in 1985.[4] He spent 13 years in the army, resigning in 1993 with the rank of major. At Duntroon he was nicknamed "Noddy", in reference both to his appearance and to his misadventures during his time in the Army.[5] He has an honours degree in civil engineering from the University of New South Wales.[6]

He moved to Queensland, where he graduated with an MBA from the University of Queensland, then worked for the agricultural storage company Grainco, before deciding to stand for election as lord mayor of Brisbane.[4]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell_Newman

He has lived just about everywhere in Australia, why wouldn't he move to country Victoria? ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 7th, 2015 at 9:35pm

Neferti wrote on Feb 7th, 2015 at 8:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 7th, 2015 at 2:15pm:
It would be weird if he even considered it.  He is a Queenslander, a failure...and he ought know he would have zero attraction to the local Libs in Indi.



Quote:
Campbell Newman was born on 12 August 1963 in Canberra, to parents who later both represented Tasmania in the federal parliament and were both ministers in Liberal–National coalition governments. His father, Kevin, represented the federal seat of Bass from 1975 to 1984, and was a minister in the Fraser government. His mother, Jocelyn Newman (née Mullett), was a Senator for Tasmania (1986–2002) and a minister in the Howard government. Campbell Newman was raised in Tasmania, attending Launceston Church Grammar School, then returned to Canberra.[4]

He joined the Australian Army as a staff cadet at the Royal Military College, Duntroon in 1981, graduating as a lieutenant in 1985.[4] He spent 13 years in the army, resigning in 1993 with the rank of major. At Duntroon he was nicknamed "Noddy", in reference both to his appearance and to his misadventures during his time in the Army.[5] He has an honours degree in civil engineering from the University of New South Wales.[6]

He moved to Queensland, where he graduated with an MBA from the University of Queensland, then worked for the agricultural storage company Grainco, before deciding to stand for election as lord mayor of Brisbane.[4]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell_Newman

He has lived just about everywhere in Australia, why wouldn't he move to country Victoria? ;D



Yes  a real blooper there Aussie. Campbell Newman a Queenslander..??

Now I wonder what you are drinking. ::)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Feb 7th, 2015 at 9:38pm
It seems there is a problem with dynastic politics similar to the British Upper Class Twit of the Year.... too long insulated from the real world seems to warp their minds.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 8th, 2015 at 6:22pm
Some housekeeping.

Link.


Quote:
But Ms Palaszczuk said they now had no strategy to fund them.

"They went to the election talking about asset plans. Now they say assets are off the agenda, so they have no plan," she said.

"All of their election commitments are null and void."


She is spot on there.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 8th, 2015 at 8:02pm
yes she is ..well done and spot on Annastacia. 

Still waiting waiting  waiting..

So now Ferny Grove  has been referred to Court. 

I expect NO  bi-election, and the seat will be Labor.

Despite the desperate attempts by the LNP talking heads to try and ramp it up.  They are so pathetic its embarrassing, and becoming very boring.

zzzzz

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 11th, 2015 at 7:12pm
Our vote counting system sucks.  It is now 11 days since we voted and the self evident useless Electoral Commission still has not finished counting.  WTF?  Why is it so pathetic?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 11th, 2015 at 7:29pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 7:12pm:
Our vote counting system sucks.  It is now 11 days since we voted and the self evident useless Electoral Commission still has not finished counting.  WTF?  Why is it so pathetic?


that's what happens when you use work for the dole participants ... they stop counting once they run out of toes

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Sir Camp_bell Newman on Feb 11th, 2015 at 7:31pm
I can hardly wait for Springborg to become Premier of QLD.  What a massive boost to the state this man would be.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 12th, 2015 at 12:55am

Vic wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 7:31pm:
I can hardly wait for Springborg to become Premier of QLD.  What a massive boost to the state this man would be.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What a massive joke..   :D 

well said  :) now THAT is humor at its blackest.  ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by teddybear on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:07am

Emma wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 12:55am:

Vic wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 7:31pm:
I can hardly wait for Springborg to become Premier of QLD.  What a massive boost to the state this man would be.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What a massive joke..   :D 

well said  :) now THAT is humor at its blackest.  ;D


YOUR ABC   LIB NAT  42    LABOURIS 44  ;)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by cods on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:15am

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 7:12pm:
Our vote counting system sucks.  It is now 11 days since we voted and the self evident useless Electoral Commission still has not finished counting.  WTF?  Why is it so pathetic?




;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

qld up the creek one day...

wheres clive when you need him I thought he was sorting out Qld.

didnt he stuff up Ferny Grove with a dubious person of quality????>....... ;D ;D ;D

will they send clive the bill if they need a bye election do you think????>...

this could have been one of clives little lets stuff this up moves.. ;) ;)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:20am

cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 7:12pm:
Our vote counting system sucks.  It is now 11 days since we voted and the self evident useless Electoral Commission still has not finished counting.  WTF?  Why is it so pathetic?




;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

qld up the creek one day...

wheres clive when you need him I thought he was sorting out Qld.

didnt he stuff up Ferny Grove with a dubious person of quality????>....... ;D ;D ;D

will they send clive the bill if they need a bye election do you think????>...

this could have been one of clives little lets stuff this up moves.. ;) ;)

The Liberals have a Prime Minister who can't or won't prove he's not a dual citizen  ::)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by cods on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:26am

Bam wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:20am:

cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 7:12pm:
Our vote counting system sucks.  It is now 11 days since we voted and the self evident useless Electoral Commission still has not finished counting.  WTF?  Why is it so pathetic?




;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

qld up the creek one day...

wheres clive when you need him I thought he was sorting out Qld.

didnt he stuff up Ferny Grove with a dubious person of quality????>....... ;D ;D ;D

will they send clive the bill if they need a bye election do you think????>...

this could have been one of clives little lets stuff this up moves.. ;) ;)

The Liberals have a Prime Minister who can't or won't prove he's not a dual citizen  ::)



well its a bit like Obama its up to those who believe otherwise to prove not him..

its like shorty being accused of rape...does he have to prove he is innocent?....or is it up to THEM to prove he is guilty.?.. he can say he is not guilty.. doesnt make it so.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:50am

cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:26am:

Bam wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:20am:

cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 7:12pm:
Our vote counting system sucks.  It is now 11 days since we voted and the self evident useless Electoral Commission still has not finished counting.  WTF?  Why is it so pathetic?




;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

qld up the creek one day...

wheres clive when you need him I thought he was sorting out Qld.

didnt he stuff up Ferny Grove with a dubious person of quality????>....... ;D ;D ;D

will they send clive the bill if they need a bye election do you think????>...

this could have been one of clives little lets stuff this up moves.. ;) ;)

The Liberals have a Prime Minister who can't or won't prove he's not a dual citizen  ::)

well its a bit like Obama its up to those who believe otherwise to prove not him..

Not unreasonable.

There is a difference though. American presidents must be native-born Americans and this cannot be changed. Either one is eligible or one isn't. Naturalised Australians aren't eligible for election unless and until they also renounce prior citizenship. The paperwork is more complex.

I suspect the law on dual citizens may have changed over time - both here and in the UK - and we shouldn't make assumptions on naturalisation status in 1981 by applying current laws.

I consider Abbott's eligibility an open question.

If Abbott's eligibility was in question, I think the main reason why we haven't seen much is there's only a limited time frame for disputing an election result. That time frame has passed. I'm not sure the constitutionality of the limited time frame for disputing eligibility under s.44 has ever been tested though. Another is that any litigant needs deep pockets.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 12th, 2015 at 10:00am

cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:26am:

Bam wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:20am:

cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 7:12pm:
Our vote counting system sucks.  It is now 11 days since we voted and the self evident useless Electoral Commission still has not finished counting.  WTF?  Why is it so pathetic?




;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

qld up the creek one day...

wheres clive when you need him I thought he was sorting out Qld.

didnt he stuff up Ferny Grove with a dubious person of quality????>....... ;D ;D ;D

will they send clive the bill if they need a bye election do you think????>...

this could have been one of clives little lets stuff this up moves.. ;) ;)

The Liberals have a Prime Minister who can't or won't prove he's not a dual citizen  ::)



well its a bit like Obama its up to those who believe otherwise to prove not him..

its like shorty being accused of rape...does he have to prove he is innocent?....or is it up to THEM to prove he is guilty.?.. he can say he is not guilty.. doesnt make it so.


Obama published his long form birth certificate, monkey has not shown proof he does not hold dual citizenship.

I do not believe it is an issue anyway. The idiot is in the Lodge and destroying the country!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by cods on Feb 12th, 2015 at 10:44am

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 10:00am:

cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:26am:

Bam wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:20am:

cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 7:12pm:
Our vote counting system sucks.  It is now 11 days since we voted and the self evident useless Electoral Commission still has not finished counting.  WTF?  Why is it so pathetic?




;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

qld up the creek one day...

wheres clive when you need him I thought he was sorting out Qld.

didnt he stuff up Ferny Grove with a dubious person of quality????>....... ;D ;D ;D

will they send clive the bill if they need a bye election do you think????>...

this could have been one of clives little lets stuff this up moves.. ;) ;)

The Liberals have a Prime Minister who can't or won't prove he's not a dual citizen  ::)



well its a bit like Obama its up to those who believe otherwise to prove not him..

its like shorty being accused of rape...does he have to prove he is innocent?....or is it up to THEM to prove he is guilty.?.. he can say he is not guilty.. doesnt make it so.


Obama published his long form birth certificate, monkey has not shown proof he does not hold dual citizenship.

I do not believe it is an issue anyway. The idiot is in the Lodge and destroying the country!



funny you dont seem to be doing it too tough..if your posts on here are anything to go by?? you sound  like you wan t for nothing..as do most of the lefties..

you may wish to consider you are now reaping what Labor sowed.... ::) ::)unemployment figures always go back quite a way...for example..the one thing that does get worse is the DEBT INTEREST RATES>which we notice you guys never whinge about. ::) ::)

sure doesnt affect your day to day does it?? ;D ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:44pm

cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 10:44am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 10:00am:

cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:26am:

Bam wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:20am:

cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 7:12pm:
Our vote counting system sucks.  It is now 11 days since we voted and the self evident useless Electoral Commission still has not finished counting.  WTF?  Why is it so pathetic?




;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

qld up the creek one day...

wheres clive when you need him I thought he was sorting out Qld.

didnt he stuff up Ferny Grove with a dubious person of quality????>....... ;D ;D ;D

will they send clive the bill if they need a bye election do you think????>...

this could have been one of clives little lets stuff this up moves.. ;) ;)

The Liberals have a Prime Minister who can't or won't prove he's not a dual citizen  ::)



well its a bit like Obama its up to those who believe otherwise to prove not him..

its like shorty being accused of rape...does he have to prove he is innocent?....or is it up to THEM to prove he is guilty.?.. he can say he is not guilty.. doesnt make it so.


Obama published his long form birth certificate, monkey has not shown proof he does not hold dual citizenship.

I do not believe it is an issue anyway. The idiot is in the Lodge and destroying the country!



funny you dont seem to be doing it too tough..if your posts on here are anything to go by?? you sound  like you wan t for nothing..as do most of the lefties..

you may wish to consider you are now reaping what Labor sowed.... ::) ::)unemployment figures always go back quite a way...for example..the one thing that does get worse is the DEBT INTEREST RATES>which we notice you guys never whinge about. ::) ::)

sure doesnt affect your day to day does it?? ;D ;D



What an utter load of Codswallop.! Be quiet you silly hen, you cack me up nevertheless.   ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by St George of the Fermenter on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:07pm

cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 10:44am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 10:00am:

cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:26am:

Bam wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:20am:

cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 7:12pm:
Our vote counting system sucks.  It is now 11 days since we voted and the self evident useless Electoral Commission still has not finished counting.  WTF?  Why is it so pathetic?




;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

qld up the creek one day...

wheres clive when you need him I thought he was sorting out Qld.

didnt he stuff up Ferny Grove with a dubious person of quality????>....... ;D ;D ;D

will they send clive the bill if they need a bye election do you think????>...

this could have been one of clives little lets stuff this up moves.. ;) ;)

The Liberals have a Prime Minister who can't or won't prove he's not a dual citizen  ::)



well its a bit like Obama its up to those who believe otherwise to prove not him..

its like shorty being accused of rape...does he have to prove he is innocent?....or is it up to THEM to prove he is guilty.?.. he can say he is not guilty.. doesnt make it so.


Obama published his long form birth certificate, monkey has not shown proof he does not hold dual citizenship.

I do not believe it is an issue anyway. The idiot is in the Lodge and destroying the country!



funny you dont seem to be doing it too tough..if your posts on here are anything to go by?? you sound  like you wan t for nothing..as do most of the lefties..

you may wish to consider you are now reaping what Labor sowed.... ::) ::)unemployment figures always go back quite a way...for example..the one thing that does get worse is the DEBT INTEREST RATES>which we notice you guys never whinge about. ::) ::)

sure doesnt affect your day to day does it?? ;D ;D

I saved my money when I worked, cods.

Unemployment is now 6.4%, the deficit grows and grows and the Libs have said they will no longer chase a surplus.

I know because I read up a lot about it that killing off the FTTH NBN business, employment, exports, GDP will all be less than if the real thing was still being rolled out.Car makers gone, CSIRO hobbled and so on—for what? Just tell me what monkey achieved with all that?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 13th, 2015 at 2:28pm
Queensland election 2015: Labor to form minority government as all seats declared

Quote:
All seats in the Queensland election have been declared, with Labor securing enough to form a minority government.

The Electoral Commission of Queensland declared the 89 seats which make up Queensland Parliament at 2:15pm (AEST).

Labor leader Annastacia Palaszczuk could be sworn in as Queensland's premier as early as today.

Although the writs were due to be returned on Monday, Governor Paul de Jersey said earlier this week he would commission a new premier when all seats were declared.

Labor won 44 electorates and will have the crucial 45 to form a minority government with the support of independent Peter Wellington.

The Liberal National Party (LNP) finished with 42 seats, and its only hope of forming a minority government would be to win the backing of the two Katter's Australian Party MPs and victory in a Ferny Grove by-election, if one is held.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 13th, 2015 at 2:35pm

Bam wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 2:28pm:
Queensland election 2015: Labor to form minority government as all seats declared

Quote:
All seats in the Queensland election have been declared, with Labor securing enough to form a minority government.

The Electoral Commission of Queensland declared the 89 seats which make up Queensland Parliament at 2:15pm (AEST).

Labor leader Annastacia Palaszczuk could be sworn in as Queensland's premier as early as today.

Although the writs were due to be returned on Monday, Governor Paul de Jersey said earlier this week he would commission a new premier when all seats were declared.

Labor won 44 electorates and will have the crucial 45 to form a minority government with the support of independent Peter Wellington.

The Liberal National Party (LNP) finished with 42 seats, and its only hope of forming a minority government would be to win the backing of the two Katter's Australian Party MPs and victory in a Ferny Grove by-election, if one is held.


All in all, a good result ... I would have preferred they were able to govern without Wellington, but given how unlikely they were to get this far, well done.

First order of business for Palaszczuk should be to reinstate the CMC's full powers, followed by a royal commission into the dodgy dealings of Newman ...

ohh, she should also ditch that loser that Newman put in charge of the courts.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 13th, 2015 at 2:52pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 2:35pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 2:28pm:
Queensland election 2015: Labor to form minority government as all seats declared

Quote:
All seats in the Queensland election have been declared, with Labor securing enough to form a minority government.

The Electoral Commission of Queensland declared the 89 seats which make up Queensland Parliament at 2:15pm (AEST).

Labor leader Annastacia Palaszczuk could be sworn in as Queensland's premier as early as today.

Although the writs were due to be returned on Monday, Governor Paul de Jersey said earlier this week he would commission a new premier when all seats were declared.

Labor won 44 electorates and will have the crucial 45 to form a minority government with the support of independent Peter Wellington.

The Liberal National Party (LNP) finished with 42 seats, and its only hope of forming a minority government would be to win the backing of the two Katter's Australian Party MPs and victory in a Ferny Grove by-election, if one is held.


All in all, a good result ... I would have preferred they were able to govern without Wellington, but given how unlikely they were to get this far, well done.

First order of business for Palaszczuk should be to reinstate the CMC's full powers, followed by a royal commission into the dodgy dealings of Newman ...

ohh, she should also ditch that loser that Newman put in charge of the courts.

Restoring the CMC's powers should be done.

Palaszczuk should also restore the separation of powers. The Attorney-General should have no say in which cases go before the courts. That should be the sole prerogative of the Director of Public Prosecutions.

Newman's appointments to the public service should all be sacked. That should include the Chief Justice, who should be replaced with one of the current judges with the most experience.

Start with these, and other similar moves to restore good government to Queensland, and Palaszczuk should have nothing to fear even if there's a byelection in Ferny Grove.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 13th, 2015 at 3:48pm

Quote:
ohh, she should also ditch that loser that Newman put in charge of the courts.



Easier said than done.  It'll cost, but they'll just have to sideline him somehow.  Create some other  totally new more senior position and fill it with a properly qualified and respected legal elder.  Transfer all powers and responsibilities of the Chief Justice to that person.  Then go to Carmody and tell him he is mothballed, and while he is still "Chief Justice" he has nothing to do.  He has no Office, no desk, no chair even to sit on.  No cases to hear whatsoever.  Or, the alternative offer would be.....resign from the position and be returned to his old job as a pissant Magistrate.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Sir Camp_bell Newman on Feb 13th, 2015 at 3:54pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 2:35pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 2:28pm:
Queensland election 2015: Labor to form minority government as all seats declared

Quote:
All seats in the Queensland election have been declared, with Labor securing enough to form a minority government.

The Electoral Commission of Queensland declared the 89 seats which make up Queensland Parliament at 2:15pm (AEST).

Labor leader Annastacia Palaszczuk could be sworn in as Queensland's premier as early as today.

Although the writs were due to be returned on Monday, Governor Paul de Jersey said earlier this week he would commission a new premier when all seats were declared.

Labor won 44 electorates and will have the crucial 45 to form a minority government with the support of independent Peter Wellington.

The Liberal National Party (LNP) finished with 42 seats, and its only hope of forming a minority government would be to win the backing of the two Katter's Australian Party MPs and victory in a Ferny Grove by-election, if one is held.


All in all, a good result ... I would have preferred they were able to govern without Wellington, but given how unlikely they were to get this far, well done.

First order of business for Palaszczuk should be to reinstate the CMC's full powers, followed by a royal commission into the dodgy dealings of Newman ...

ohh, she should also ditch that loser that Newman put in charge of the courts.



Bugger!  I really wanted to see Springborg as premier!  Always the bridesmaid..etc...etc

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:08pm
Aaaah!!!!  Contrary to earlier reports, the Qld Electoral Commission will not refer the Ferny Grove (taken by Labor from the LNP....in which the PUP candidate was ineligible) situation to the Supreme Court.  Smart decision, given precedent.  However, that does not prevent the LNP taking it to Court, but if they lose (as precedent says they will) they pay the costs.

All over............except for the possibility of a missing heart beat among 45 people for the next three years.

"Goodbye Campbel Newman, goodbye."  Clive sends his very best wishes to you and your arrogant 'born to rule' mentality drop kick mates.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:59pm
Good news all round I'd say, considering the alternative.!!


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:14pm
Well, I think it needs to be said one more time given the monumental feat it was.

What a disaster it was for the Liberal National parties all over the country and especially for the Federal Abbott Government. Abbott is a gonner and I think he's the only one in the country who doesn't know it yet.      

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 14th, 2015 at 5:39pm
This is the Bruce McIver LNP horseshit we have been putting up with in Queensland.  This bloke has an inordinate clout within the non-parliamentary LNP and is also part of the 'arrogance' which was a factor in bringing Newmann and his lot down.

Link


Quote:
"So where would those votes have gone if he wasn't allowed to stand, that's the question.

"I think in fairness to the people of Queensland and Ferny Grove, a by-election could have to come.

"I understand law advice is forthcoming ... but I think a by-election would be the most likely outcome."

The ECQ has issued a statement saying a by-election was an option, but counting would continue until more legal advice was sought.

"Options open to the commission include a challenge in the Court of Disputed Returns of the Ferny Grove election which may result in a by-election for the district," Commissioner Walter van der Merwe said.

"At this time the commission continues to count ballots across the state with declarations for some districts to be made by the end of the week."


Yer an idiot McIver, and given the ECQ has now made it clear it will not refer the outcome in Ferny Grove to the Courts, let's see you do it using LNP funds.  You will be laughed out of Court.

By-election 'most likely?'  You winker!.


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 14th, 2015 at 5:56pm
Probably just wishful thinking on the part of the LNP.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 14th, 2015 at 5:58pm

Bam wrote on Feb 14th, 2015 at 5:56pm:
Probably just wishful thinking on the part of the LNP.


True....but why convert that in to public humiliation?  Did he think he could bluff the Electoral Commission and its advisors with political rhetorical clap trap?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Bam on Feb 14th, 2015 at 8:05pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2015 at 5:58pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 14th, 2015 at 5:56pm:
Probably just wishful thinking on the part of the LNP.


True....but why convert that in to public humiliation?  Did he think he could bluff the Electoral Commission and its advisors with political rhetorical clap trap?

The LNP haven't learnt yet why they lost the election.

They were even wanting to retain caretaker government until a hypothetical by-election was completed. Seriously?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 14th, 2015 at 8:26pm
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Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Feb 14th, 2015 at 10:10pm
Qld Labor's new party slogan: debt is good.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Feb 14th, 2015 at 10:21pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 14th, 2015 at 10:10pm:
Qld Labor's new party slogan: debt is good.


Only conservative supporters are allowed to use that slogan, like the rusted on's in WA.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Feb 15th, 2015 at 6:45am

Aussie wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:08pm:
"Goodbye Campbel Newman, goodbye."  Clive sends his very best wishes to you and your arrogant 'born to rule' mentality drop kick mates.




Clive must be celebrating the demise of Newman, like the rest of Qld, well! the sensible ones that voted him out anyway.

Commiserations Aquascoot, your treasured ex leader won't become Prime Minister after all and as they say.....this is progress.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 15th, 2015 at 6:42pm
Now we have a Cabinet..nay a whole parliament (?) or close..   where women are in the majority.

This is another blinding historical moment for Queensland.. AND  australian politics as well.


Annastacia Palaczszuk, through one of those amazing moments in History.. which burgeon change,  has achieved the unthinkable . Joy oh joy  :) :)

WELL DONE people of Queensland. I feel proud,  now,  to count myself among you.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 15th, 2015 at 6:57pm

Emma wrote on Feb 15th, 2015 at 6:42pm:
Now we have a Cabinet..nay a whole parliament (?) or close..   where women are in the majority.

This is another blinding historical moment for Queensland.. AND  australian politics as well.


Annastacia Palaczszuk, through one of those amazing moments in History.. which burgeon change,  has achieved the unthinkable . Joy oh joy  :) :)

WELL DONE people of Queensland. I feel proud,  now,  to count myself among you.


Correct on the 'Cabinet' point.  8/14 is a majority.

Link.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 16th, 2015 at 2:11am
Umm so 

THIS IS a FIRST in AUSTRALIAN HISTORY.

First ever State Government Cabinet with a female majority!!.


I AM correct aren't I Aussie.? Funny how no -one wants to acknowledge this particularly.

This is big time history making stuff.

The pressure on Palaszczuk and her government will be enormous.

Just look at what the PM  Julia Gillard had to contend with.. ! The abuse by the then oppos like Abbott and Hockey and Co was despicable.. a real time example of the ethics of politics..   and so so anti-women.

The only woman Abbott has in his team is Bishop.  Well,, so maybe he added one or two since his debacle of a response to a Spill, not sure.. its irrelevant .

Go QLD Labor.  !!!!!!!!!...  .


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by cods on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:06am
good luck with that... I do hope they are the best and not just tokens..like most things.. proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:17am

Palaszczuk got her cabinet sorted out quickly so it looks like she's not a ditherer, straight onto the job at hand, no fuss, no problems.

As far as the debt goes, Queenslanders won't worry about debt, 'she'll be right mate' is the motto up here, besides the whole country is in debt and it aint going nowhere for the next few decades.

Steady s she goes, no barnacles, don't rock the boat like Newman did and she should sail along nicely for a couple of terms.

Go Anastacia!!!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Feb 16th, 2015 at 7:47am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:17am:
Palaszczuk got her cabinet sorted out quickly so it looks like she's not a ditherer, straight onto the job at hand, no fuss, no problems.

As far as the debt goes, Queenslanders won't worry about debt, 'she'll be right mate' is the motto up here, besides the whole country is in debt and it aint going nowhere for the next few decades.

Steady s she goes, no barnacles, don't rock the boat like Newman did and she should sail along nicely for a couple of terms.

Go Anastacia!!!


Good propaganda, Comrade. We also need to build another desal plant and purchase land for dams that never get built. This will help our utopia to emerge quicker.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:15pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:08pm:
Aaaah!!!!  Contrary to earlier reports, the Qld Electoral Commission will not refer the Ferny Grove (taken by Labor from the LNP....in which the PUP candidate was ineligible) situation to the Supreme Court.  Smart decision, given precedent.  However, that does not prevent the LNP taking it to Court, but if they lose (as precedent says they will) they pay the costs.

All over............except for the possibility of a missing heart beat among 45 people for the next three years.

"Goodbye Campbel Newman, goodbye."  Clive sends his very best wishes to you and your arrogant 'born to rule' mentality drop kick mates.


Ch 9 has just reported that the LNP will not refer Ferny Grove to the Court.  How predictable, and yet how bloody stupid were LNP Party Heavy Bruce MvIver and the schmedia in suggesting it was a real possibility.

Really!  Bloody wunkers!!!!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Emma Peel on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:56pm
Quite so  Aussie.. the same old same old..  :P

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Dame Pansi on Feb 17th, 2015 at 5:25pm

It looks like we might save the reef......woohoo!!!!!

Anastacia Palaszczuk will do the things that 'can-do' Campbell Newman didn't do.

Imagine in just five or ten years time we might have a healthy, flourishing GBR......whew!!!! that was close, another three years of LNP sludge would have been the end of it.

............................................................

I have really exciting news: Queensland now has a Minister for the Great Barrier Reef.

When Steven Miles was sworn in yesterday as the new Queensland Environment Minister, he also became the first Minister to have the Great Barrier Reef in his job title. 

Your work fighting to protect our natural treasure has helped elevate this issue so much that the government have appointed a Minister for the Reef! Well done!

Now its time to put words into action. Minister Miles and the new Queensland Government have a strong set of commitments to act on including:

1. A ban on sea-based disposal of dredge spoil in the Great Barrier Reef World Heritage Area;
2. A commitment to achieve an 80% reduction in pollution run-off into the Great Barrier Reef by 2025;
3. Reinstating key legal safeguards for the Reef – including protection of bushland, coastal protections and water reform;
4. Providing an additional $100 million over five years towards water quality initiatives, scientific research and better environmental practices in the primary production and fishing industries;
5. No dumping of dredge spoil on the fragile Caley Valley wetlands at Abbot Point; and
6. Protection of the Fitzroy Delta near Rockhampton

from

Louise Matthiesson
Great Barrier Reef Campaigner
WWF- Australia


Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 17th, 2015 at 5:44pm

Emma wrote on Feb 15th, 2015 at 6:42pm:
Now we have a Cabinet..nay a whole parliament (?) or close..   where women are in the majority.

This is another blinding historical moment for Queensland.. AND  australian politics as well.


Annastacia Palaczszuk, through one of those amazing moments in History.. which burgeon change,  has achieved the unthinkable . Joy oh joy  :) :)

WELL DONE people of Queensland. I feel proud,  now,  to count myself among you.



holy shiit, a majority female ministry under the tuck shop lady.
its worse then a CWA meeting.
i'm off to the territory

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 17th, 2015 at 5:45pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 17th, 2015 at 5:25pm:
It looks like we might save the reef......woohoo!!!!!

Anastacia Palaszczuk will do the things that 'can-do' Campbell Newman didn't do.

Imagine in just five or ten years time we might have a healthy, flourishing GBR......whew!!!! that was close, another three years of LNP sludge would have been the end of it.

............................................................

I have really exciting news: Queensland now has a Minister for the Great Barrier Reef.

When Steven Miles was sworn in yesterday as the new Queensland Environment Minister, he also became the first Minister to have the Great Barrier Reef in his job title. 

Your work fighting to protect our natural treasure has helped elevate this issue so much that the government have appointed a Minister for the Reef! Well done!

Now its time to put words into action. Minister Miles and the new Queensland Government have a strong set of commitments to act on including:

1. A ban on sea-based disposal of dredge spoil in the Great Barrier Reef World Heritage Area;
2. A commitment to achieve an 80% reduction in pollution run-off into the Great Barrier Reef by 2025;
3. Reinstating key legal safeguards for the Reef – including protection of bushland, coastal protections and water reform;
4. Providing an additional $100 million over five years towards water quality initiatives, scientific research and better environmental practices in the primary production and fishing industries;
5. No dumping of dredge spoil on the fragile Caley Valley wetlands at Abbot Point; and
6. Protection of the Fitzroy Delta near Rockhampton

from

Louise Matthiesson
Great Barrier Reef Campaigner
WWF- Australia


first decision by the tuck shop lady...kill coal exports, the only thing that makes any money to support pansi and emmas standard of living.

got a recipe for boiled rice and tomato sauce girls

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by imcrookonit on Feb 17th, 2015 at 6:14pm
Well good for you Premier Palaszczuk.  The Great Barrier Reef should be protected and looked after.      :)

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 17th, 2015 at 6:16pm

wrote on Feb 17th, 2015 at 6:14pm:
Well good for you Premier Palaszczuk.  The Great Barrier Reef should be protected and looked after.      :)



she sounds like a russian to me,  tell her to go save the siberian marshlands and let us queenslanders get back to business .

newman  ...that was a good aussie name.

what is it with the left women.....plibosek, wong, that yank that ran NSW for a while,

i want some god dam aussies as premier.
Kate Jones should take over.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on Feb 17th, 2015 at 6:35pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
irst decision by the tuck shop lady...kill coal exports



it hasn't killed anything, they can train the coal to your place and then fly it out from there

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by aquascoot on Feb 17th, 2015 at 7:16pm
i just know when pansi, emma and crook are cheering for something, its going to be a lemon

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on May 8th, 2015 at 4:25pm
Just some housekeeping.

Carmody.

Link.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on Jun 5th, 2015 at 7:46pm
More housekeeping.

Carmody.

Link.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on May 2nd, 2016 at 9:15pm
And the LNP keeps tearing itself apart.  I reckon they are better off with The Borg than any of the other lightweights, but I really don't care.

Link.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on May 4th, 2016 at 2:44pm
Oh dear.....The Borg is to be put to the test.  Spill on Friday.  What a farce they are.

Link.


Quote:
Queensland Opposition Leader Lawrence Springborg has called an impromptu LNP partyroom meeting for this Friday, where a leadership spill motion will be called.

Former deputy premier Jeff Seeney said he had emailed his LNP colleagues to tell them he would move a motion at the meeting for leadership positions to be declared vacant.

There has been speculation Mr Springborg could face a challenge from Tim Nicholls or Tim Mander, or possibly both.

Opposition MPs were not due to meet until next Monday, but Mr Springborg texted his colleagues to bring it forward to 11:00am on Friday.

"You would all be aware that in recent days there has been a lot of anonymous media commentary from a handful of colleagues about the direction of the LNP," the text read.

"Given the ongoing nature of this commentary, I am keen to provide an early opportunity for any of these members to be able to raise their issues with you directly.

"I believe it is important to bring forward this meeting given State Parliament is sitting next week; given the LNP is kicking off its Toowoomba South by-election [campaign] this Saturday with our candidate endorsement; and given the reasonable prospects that a federal election could be underway by next Monday.

"I look forward to your attendance; and look forward to your ongoing support."

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on May 4th, 2016 at 3:27pm

Aussie wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 2:44pm:
Lawrence Springborg



who?

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on May 4th, 2016 at 3:34pm

John Smith wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 3:27pm:

Aussie wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 2:44pm:
Lawrence Springborg



who?

;D ;D ;D


Yeas......The Borg.



Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on May 4th, 2016 at 8:28pm
Dumbarse Mander, should have stuck to being an NRL referee.

Link.

Machiavelli in this is Tim Nicholls and Mander is just a pawn deployment.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on May 4th, 2016 at 8:53pm
didn't even know he was a politician, let alone that he was in any sort of position to become leader ... with that sort of anonymity, he'll go far :D :D :D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Leftwinger on May 4th, 2016 at 9:09pm
Leadership challenge after one year at team libtard in QLD  ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Leftwinger on May 5th, 2016 at 7:13am

Its time wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 9:09pm:
Leadership challenge after one year at team libtard in QLD  ;D


Looks like they will be in opposition for another 3 terms at least  ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on May 5th, 2016 at 2:32pm

Aussie wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 8:28pm:
Dumbarse Mander, should have stuck to being an NRL referee.

Link.

Machiavelli in this is Tim Nicholls and Mander is just a pawn deployment.


And here he comes ~ "Machiavelli" Nicholls.

Link.

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Leftwinger on May 5th, 2016 at 2:36pm

Aussie wrote on May 5th, 2016 at 2:32pm:

Aussie wrote on May 4th, 2016 at 8:28pm:
Dumbarse Mander, should have stuck to being an NRL referee.

Link.

Machiavelli in this is Tim Nicholls and Mander is just a pawn deployment.


And here he comes ~ "Machiavelli" Nicholls.

Link.


The tuckshop lady wear borg down already  ;D oh dear rtards , get ready for a lonnnnnnnnnnnmg time in opposition  ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by John Smith on May 6th, 2016 at 10:10am
Is today the end of the Borg?

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Leftwinger on May 6th, 2016 at 10:21am

John Smith wrote on May 6th, 2016 at 10:10am:
Is today the end of the Borg?


Just turned up didn't he  ;D

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Aussie on May 6th, 2016 at 11:56am
....and 'Machiavelli' Nicholls wins.  Told yez!

Title: Re: The state of Queensland.
Post by Leftwinger on May 6th, 2016 at 11:59am

Aussie wrote on May 6th, 2016 at 11:56am:
....and 'Machiavelli' Nicholls wins.  Told yez!


Are we taking bets on how long this one lasts ?

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