Fights started outside French town halls tonight as they came under the control of the far-right National Front for the first time following dramatic gains in local elections.

Exit polls suggested that the anti-immigration and anti-Europe party had roundly beaten the governing Socialists in a number of key constituencies.

'Demonstrators are trying to get at the Front representatives and starting fights,' said a police spokesman in Frejus, the picturesque Mediterranean town which is hugely popular with British tourists.

Riot police were also out in force in other parts of the country as anti-fascist demonstrators threatened FN candidates with violence.

link

I've notice a curious phenomenon over the years, in whichever Western country.

If 'rightwingers' seem to be winning in council, State or federal elections ~ the riot police have to be called out to control violent Leftwing crowds 'protesting' at these results, but if it's leftwingers who are being voted into office ~~ the streets are graveyard quiet.

No jackboots. No riot police. No mobile water cannons. No VIOLENCE.

Resurgence of rightwingers

They are breeding in greater numbers?

____ wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 3:43pm:

Resurgence of rightwingers They are breeding in greater numbers?

Don't worry, Mr Green ... France's long love affair with communism and socialism will never see a rightwing party dictating policy to the masses.

France is way too much a country of peasants and farmers, and their vote will always go to whichever party will subsidise them the most.

Should this be in the Global section of the Forum?

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 3:37pm:

Fights started outside French town halls tonight as they came under the control of the far-right National Front for the first time following dramatic gains in local elections. Exit polls suggested that the anti-immigration and anti-Europe party had roundly beaten the governing Socialists in a number of key constituencies. 'Demonstrators are trying to get at the Front representatives and starting fights,' said a police spokesman in Frejus, the picturesque Mediterranean town which is hugely popular with British tourists. Riot police were also out in force in other parts of the country as anti-fascist demonstrators threatened FN candidates with violence. link I've notice a curious phenomenon over the years, in whichever Western country. If 'rightwingers' seem to be winning in council, State or federal elections ~ the riot police have to be called out to control violent Leftwing crowds 'protesting' at these results, but if it leftwingers who are being voted into office ~~ the streets are graveyard quiet. No jackboots. No riot police. No mobile water cannons. No VIOLENCE.

what side of the political spectrum did Anders Beivik occupy? You were right , they didn't need water cannons or riot police ... instead they needed bomb squad, Army and every emergency department within 100Km :D :D :D :D

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 4:06pm:

____ wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 3:43pm: Resurgence of rightwingers They are breeding in greater numbers? Don't worry, Mr Green ... France's long love affair with communism and socialism will never see a rightwing party dictating policy to the masses. France is way too much a country of peasants and farmers, and their vote will always go to whichever party will subsidise them the most.

No-one's vote should ever go to the far right.

Under any circumstances.

They should be given no consideration whatsoever.

They are the enemies of Western society, no-one else.

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 4:06pm:

____ wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 3:43pm: Resurgence of rightwingers They are breeding in greater numbers? Don't worry, Mr Green ... France's long love affair with communism and socialism will never see a rightwing party dictating policy to the masses. France is way too much a country of peasants and farmers, and their vote will always go to whichever party will subsidise them the most.

France.. I do n ot know of anyone that really wants to go there anymore...it was once the jewel in the crown in Europe for tourism...now its filthy and run down.. so I have been told..

my grandson is going to Normandy for a scout jamboree  for the 70th anniversary of the landing..so I hope that is special.

Except kat...  The far left...  progs... Greens...

Its fairly obvious the left intellectual elite have abandoned the working poor and continue on a quest about issues which do not interest the working poor (gay marriage, multiculturalism, handwringing over wars in places the battlers have never heard of).
The conservatives aren't attractive to the battlers.
they will thus turn to the right win nationalists .
Watch a few film clips of hitlers rallies in 1934 and see just how popular a right wing nationalist can be. Now Adolph went off the rails in about 1939 but his model from 34 to 39 was very very appealing to an enormous slab of people.
If the left don't like this, may I suggest they give up trendy issues, go on Q and A and represent battler values and tell the parasites who have hijacked their side of politics to take a hike

Bam wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 4:10pm:

Should this be in the Global section of the Forum?

I thought 'Aussie' was the only one with an Anal Retentive Fixation about cataloguing the threads.

[quote author=Herbert link=1396244248/0#0 date=1396244248]Fights started outside French town halls tonight as they came under the control of the far-right National Front for the first time following dramatic gains in local elections.

Exit polls suggested that the anti-immigration and anti-Europe party had roundly beaten the governing Socialists in a number of key constituencies.

'Demonstrators are trying to get at the Front representatives and starting fights,' said a police spokesman in Frejus, the picturesque Mediterranean town which is hugely popular with British tourists.

Riot police were also out in force in other parts of the country as anti-fascist demonstrators threatened FN candidates with violence.

link

I've notice a curious phenomenon over the years, in whichever Western country.

If 'rightwingers' seem to be winning in council, State or federal elections ~ the riot police have to be called out to control violent Leftwing crowds 'protesting' at these results, but if it leftwingers who are being voted into office ~~ the streets are graveyard quiet.

No jackboots. No riot police. No mobile water cannons. No VIOLENCE.

[/quota

Ah,yes. European Rightwingers have always been peace loving people.

Hitler and Franco are excellent examples.

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 7:05pm:

Ah,yes. European Rightwingers have always been peace loving people. Hitler and Franco are excellent examples.

Don't be such a putz.

I'm talking about today's urban Renta-Crowd lefties who are composed mostly of university students earning a little spare cash to help pay for their condoms, dope, and cheap wine.

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 7:23pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 7:05pm: Ah,yes. European Rightwingers have always been peace loving people. Hitler and Franco are excellent examples. Don't be such a putz. I'm talking about today's urban Renta-Crowd lefties who are composed mostly of university students earning a little spare cash to help pay for their condoms, dope, and cheap wine.

isn't Breivik a product of todays urban righties?  :D :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 7:26pm:

isn't Breivik a product of todays urban righties?  :D :D :D :D

No, he isn't, and the proof is: Where are all the other Breiviks, you klutz?

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 7:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 7:26pm: isn't Breivik a product of todays urban righties?  :D :D :D :D No, he isn't, and the proof is: Where are all the other Breiviks, you klutz?

they're out there ... they just haven't the balls to go through with it like Breivik did. Remeber the chaff bag comment, ... and I can't tell you how many times someone on here suggested killing Gillard. 

besides, when have you ever concerned yourself with proof?

Kat wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 4:54pm:

No-one's vote should ever go to the far right. Under any circumstances. They should be given no consideration whatsoever. They are the enemies of Western society, no-one else.

****

It's only in relatively recent times that 'Far Right' has become a term used by the West's Leftwing media and socialist wannabe's to mean anyone or any political organisation that doesn't support political correctness and the swamping of one's ancestral homeland with Cultural Incompatibles are rampant Nazis.

Prior to the mid-'50's the Conservative parties of Britain and Australia stood for preserving the character and heritage of society for the locals and their future progeny, with this political manifesto being accepted by all parties as perfectly reasonable and morally legitimate.

But then the universities started spewing out legions post-grad. 'liberal-progressive' socialists who would go on to occupy leading positions in the media and in politics ... bringing to an end the demographic integrity  of Western nations all across Europe, Canada, Australia, Britain, etc.

What was once respected as 'Conservative' ~ became demonised by the Leftwing push towards open socialism as being 'Far Right'.

Kat wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 4:54pm:

No-one's vote should ever go to the far right. Under any circumstances. They should be given no consideration whatsoever. They are the enemies of Western society, no-one else.

The reason one should vote for the Far Right party is to FORCE the middle-of-the-road 'Liberal' parties in Britain and Australia to do the public's bidding on certain issues.

Above all, the two to three major parties in both the UK and Australia are bone smacking lazy. Doing nothing of any significance is their default position. They fiddle around at the edges to give the illusion of being busy, but it's all about petty issues and hair-splitting.

The only way to shift them out of their complacency is to threaten them with losing at the elections to an upcoming Far Right party.

Our political parties have long since abandoned any pretence at representing the People's Will. The pollies are in it for themselves, and they don't give a cracker for anyone's opinion as long as they can get a seat in parliament.

****

The enemies of Western society are those on The Left.

aquascoot wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 5:51pm:

Its fairly obvious the left intellectual elite have abandoned the working poor and continue on a quest about issues which do not interest the working poor (gay marriage, multiculturalism, handwringing over wars in places the battlers have never heard of). The conservatives aren't attractive to the battlers. they will thus turn to the right win nationalists . Watch a few film clips of hitlers rallies in 1934 and see just how popular a right wing nationalist can be. Now Adolph went off the rails in about 1939 but his model from 34 to 39 was very very appealing to an enormous slab of people. If the left don't like this, may I suggest they give up trendy issues, go on Q and A and represent battler values and tell the parasites who have hijacked their side of politics to take a hike

You have a vey low opinion of "battlers". You think they have never heard of Iraq and Afghanistan?

So your battlers apparently don't read newspapers, watch television or have access to the Internet.

Somehow I doubt that.

Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 1^st, 2014 at 1:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 5:51pm: Its fairly obvious the left intellectual elite have abandoned the working poor and continue on a quest about issues which do not interest the working poor (gay marriage, multiculturalism, handwringing over wars in places the battlers have never heard of). The conservatives aren't attractive to the battlers. they will thus turn to the right win nationalists . Watch a few film clips of hitlers rallies in 1934 and see just how popular a right wing nationalist can be. Now Adolph went off the rails in about 1939 but his model from 34 to 39 was very very appealing to an enormous slab of people. If the left don't like this, may I suggest they give up trendy issues, go on Q and A and represent battler values and tell the parasites who have hijacked their side of politics to take a hike You have a vey low opinion of "battlers". You think they have never heard of Iraq and Afghanistan? So your battlers apparently don't read newspapers, watch television or have access to the Internet. Somehow I doubt that.

yes they have TV to watch the footy,
newspapers for the TV guide
and the internet for a bit of porn.

I'll check the ratings on SBS news in the suburbs. I'll bet "home and away" thrashes it.

Lord Herbert wrote:

Quote:

I've notice a curious phenomenon over the years, in whichever Western country. If 'rightwingers' seem to be winning in council, State or federal elections ~ the riot police have to be called out to control violent Leftwing crowds 'protesting' at these results, but if it's leftwingers who are being voted into office ~~ the streets are graveyard quiet. No jackboots. No riot police. No mobile water cannons. No VIOLENCE.

Violence is certainly part of the leftwing psyche. 

A google of how many people killed by communists will bring up many sites all giving roughly the same figures:

76 million in the People’s Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Africa
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
1 million in Vietnam
150,000 in Latin America
10,000 deaths “resulting from actions of the international communist movement and communist parties not in power.”

It seems very clear that leftwingers hate their own kind with a vengeance

It's not surprising that there should be a swing to the right.
Francois Hollande, the socialist President, only in power for about a year, has made such a god-awful mess of the economy in that short time.
I should think many many people are in deep regret for dumping Sarkozy.

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 1^st, 2014 at 5:34am:

[quote author=Max_T link=1396244248/5#5 date=1396248873] The enemies of Western society are those on The Left.

Don't worry, Herbie. They'll be dealt with for their cowardice in the fullness of time.

aquascoot wrote on Apr 1^st, 2014 at 1:37pm:

yes they have TV to watch the footy, newspapers for the TV guide and the internet for a bit of porn.

;D ;D ;D

Newspapers also for the men to get their Racing pages, and the more minute details of the Footy scene.


aquascoot wrote on Apr 1^st, 2014 at 1:37pm:

I'll check the ratings on SBS news in the suburbs. I'll bet "home and away" thrashes it.

SBS has by far the best news service in Australia. Whether by fluke or by intention it approximates the BBC news service in the late '50's before it was trashed-and-vandalised by socialists spewing out of the universities like rats from burning wheat fields.

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 1^st, 2014 at 2:53pm:

It's not surprising that there should be a swing to the right. Francois Hollande, the socialist President, only in power for about a year, has made such a god-awful mess of the economy in that short time. I should think many many people are in deep regret for dumping Sarkozy.

Sarkozy was a prevaricator. One moment he was flirting with the Left, and then the Right, and then back again. And has anyone heard of a Rightwing Pole? They are Leftwing as a default Polish position.

The 'Right' is depending entirely on its popularity for wanting to stop Muslim immigration ... and a whole bunch more to do with Muslims in France.

No more jamming the streets of Paris and other towns with Muslims at worship.



Etc.

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 1^st, 2014 at 4:44pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 2:53pm: It's not surprising that there should be a swing to the right. Francois Hollande, the socialist President, only in power for about a year, has made such a god-awful mess of the economy in that short time. I should think many many people are in deep regret for dumping Sarkozy. Sarkozy was a prevaricator. One moment he was flirting with the Left, and then the Right, and then back again. And has anyone heard of a Rightwing Pole? They are Leftwing as a default Polish position. The 'Right' is depending entirely on its popularity for wanting to stop Muslim immigration ... and a whole bunch more to do with Muslims in France. No more jamming the streets of Paris and other towns with Muslims at worship. Etc.

The rightwing Law and Justice Party is the second largest in the Polish Parliament.

Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 1^st, 2014 at 5:03pm:

The rightwing Law and Justice Party is the second largest in the Polish Parliament.

It's anti-homosexual. That hardly qualifies it as a Far Right party.

It simply doesn't approve of arse-games between highly neurotic men.

aquascoot wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 5:51pm:

just how popular a right wing nationalist can be. Now Adolph went off the rails in about 1939 but his model from 34 to 39 was very very appealing to an enormous slab of people.

Do you think France should request massive loans,  build a gargantuan armaments industry, annex Belgium and make territorial claims across their borders against Germany and Britain?

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 1^st, 2014 at 2:53pm:

It's not surprising that there should be a swing to the right. Francois Hollande, the socialist President, only in power for about a year, has made such a god-awful mess of the economy in that short time. I should think many many people are in deep regret for dumping Sarkozy.

There would be no need for a resurgence of jackboots politics if Britain's Conservative Party and Australia's Liberal Party did nothing more than stop any further Muslim immigration, and then read the Muslim community the Riot Act to either behave themselves or be deported ~ born here on not.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 6:10am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 5:51pm: just how popular a right wing nationalist can be. Now Adolph went off the rails in about 1939 but his model from 34 to 39 was very very appealing to an enormous slab of people. Do you think France should request massive loans,  build a gargantuan armaments industry, annex Belgium and make territorial claims across their borders against Germany and Britain?

No, they should develop the "French youth", mandatory physical training and "French pride" rallies and camps. Wave the flag, honour the great history of a nation which has given the world so much.
They can have a French cooking world fair
They can have marches, rallies and a national curriculum that talks about the greatness of French art, architecture.
They can get a bit of god dam pride in their country and they can sideline anyone (ie the muslim ghettos) that don't want to be part of it.
Anyone living in france who doesn't love , honour and celebrate "frenchness" can be arrested by the new French gestapo and sent to a French concentration camp for re education. (sorry, I got a bit carried away there at the end).

John Smith wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 4:23pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 3:37pm: Fights started outside French town halls tonight as they came under the control of the far-right National Front for the first time following dramatic gains in local elections. Exit polls suggested that the anti-immigration and anti-Europe party had roundly beaten the governing Socialists in a number of key constituencies. 'Demonstrators are trying to get at the Front representatives and starting fights,' said a police spokesman in Frejus, the picturesque Mediterranean town which is hugely popular with British tourists. Riot police were also out in force in other parts of the country as anti-fascist demonstrators threatened FN candidates with violence. link I've notice a curious phenomenon over the years, in whichever Western country. If 'rightwingers' seem to be winning in council, State or federal elections ~ the riot police have to be called out to control violent Leftwing crowds 'protesting' at these results, but if it leftwingers who are being voted into office ~~ the streets are graveyard quiet. No jackboots. No riot police. No mobile water cannons. No VIOLENCE. what side of the political spectrum did Anders Beivik occupy? You were right , they didn't need water cannons or riot police ... instead they needed bomb squad, Army and every emergency department within 100Km :D :D :D :D

John, it would be helpful if you could respond to the topic...

aquascoot wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 6:52am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:10am: aquascoot wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 5:51pm: just how popular a right wing nationalist can be. Now Adolph went off the rails in about 1939 but his model from 34 to 39 was very very appealing to an enormous slab of people. Do you think France should request massive loans,  build a gargantuan armaments industry, annex Belgium and make territorial claims across their borders against Germany and Britain? No, they should develop the "French youth", mandatory physical training and "French pride" rallies and camps. Wave the flag, honour the great history of a nation which has given the world so much. They can have a French cooking world fair They can have marches, rallies and a national curriculum that talks about the greatness of French art, architecture. They can get a bit of god dam pride in their country and they can sideline anyone (ie the muslim ghettos) that don't want to be part of it. Anyone living in france who doesn't love , honour and celebrate "frenchness" can be arrested by the new French gestapo and sent to a French concentration camp for re education. (sorry, I got a bit carried away there at the end).

Orgh, haw, haw, haw... oo la la...

Establish a, sort of jackboots Académie française... The Frazis?

Vive l'escargot

The Heartless Felon wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 6:58am:

John, it would be helpful if you could respond to the topic...

;D ;D ;D

You've noticed it too, have you?

There's also the peripatetic 'Rubin'.

When they've got nowhere to hide so far as losing an argument ~ their next best strategy is to then start a campaign of ad hominems in the hope this will distract from their failure.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 7:08am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:52am: NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:10am: aquascoot wrote on Mar 31st, 2014 at 5:51pm: just how popular a right wing nationalist can be. Now Adolph went off the rails in about 1939 but his model from 34 to 39 was very very appealing to an enormous slab of people. Do you think France should request massive loans,  build a gargantuan armaments industry, annex Belgium and make territorial claims across their borders against Germany and Britain? No, they should develop the "French youth", mandatory physical training and "French pride" rallies and camps. Wave the flag, honour the great history of a nation which has given the world so much. They can have a French cooking world fair They can have marches, rallies and a national curriculum that talks about the greatness of French art, architecture. They can get a bit of god dam pride in their country and they can sideline anyone (ie the muslim ghettos) that don't want to be part of it. Anyone living in france who doesn't love , honour and celebrate "frenchness" can be arrested by the new French gestapo and sent to a French concentration camp for re education. (sorry, I got a bit carried away there at the end). Orgh, haw, haw, haw... oo la la... Establish a, sort of jackboots Académie française... The Frazis? Vive l'escargot

I'm afraid the time has probably come for jackboots north. There are parts of france where the French police WILL NOT patrol.
This is intolerable.
You simply have to increase the heat until you fry the bad guys.
To do otherwise will only result in the cancer spreading.
There is a lot more wonderful things about French culture than there is about Algerian culture.
Cultural Marxists have it all wrong.

Vive le france

The extreme Right should be crushed, wherever and whenever it raises its filthy head.

There is no place for them in any decent society.

Kat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 8:04am:

The extreme Right should be crushed, wherever and whenever it raises its filthy head. There is no place for them in any decent society.

I agree, they should be crushed immediately after they have "cleaned up the streets" ;)

Kat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 8:04am:

The extreme Right should be crushed, wherever and whenever it raises its filthy head. There is no place for them in any decent society.

lol.  That's quite an extreme viewpoint.  Rather fascist too.

Was this intended to be ironic?

aquascoot wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 7:39am:

Vive le france

Vive le France?

France is a bloke now??!!

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 8:10am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:39am: Vive le france Vive le France? France is a bloke now??!!

Ouch pedantic,  has gweggary peck hacked your account

aquascoot wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 8:17am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 8:10am: aquascoot wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:39am: Vive le france Vive le France? France is a bloke now??!! Ouch pedantic,  has gweggary peck hacked your account

Thought you might be making a point... Y'know a new France... with balls this time  (gonads not cheese) !!

Cut into that cheese eating surrender monkeys thing...

.

More rightwingers in power = higher chance of war.


Nothing a rightwinger likes more than a good war.

Really north , it isn't rocket science.
Countries like france, Holland etc are seeing a lot of muslim enclaves.
Now we can PRETEND its all "rich tapestry win/win" but the public have stopped buying it.
As a rough , Hugh Mackay type guess I would think 50 % of the population of france are worried about the muslim issue.
If the centrist politicians wont address the issue , then the right wingers will gain ground.
So its up to the moderate muslims and sensible politicians to relentlessly stick the boot into the "non assimilators".
Its in their best interest.
This is just common sense and pragmatism.
Of course, for this reason, it is unlikely to happen ;)

aquascoot wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 10:01am:

Really north , it isn't rocket science. Countries like france, Holland etc are seeing a lot of muslim enclaves. Now we can PRETEND its all "rich tapestry win/win" but the public have stopped buying it. As a rough , Hugh Mackay type guess I would think 50 % of the population of france are worried about the muslim issue. If the centrist politicians wont address the issue , then the right wingers will gain ground. So its up to the moderate muslims and sensible politicians to relentlessly stick the boot into the "non assimilators". Its in their best interest. This is just common sense and pragmatism. Of course, for this reason, it is unlikely to happen ;)

Chill man... I'm taking the piss!

But, seriously... this France thing you've got going.... Ever thought of joining the Foreign Legion?? Y'know... doing not talking??!!

.

aquascoot wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 10:01am:

Really north , it isn't rocket science. Countries like france, Holland etc are seeing a lot of muslim enclaves. Now we can PRETEND its all "rich tapestry win/win" but the public have stopped buying it. As a rough , Hugh Mackay type guess I would think 50 % of the population of france are worried about the muslim issue. If the centrist politicians wont address the issue , then the right wingers will gain ground. So its up to the moderate muslims and sensible politicians to relentlessly stick the boot into the "non assimilators". Its in their best interest. This is just common sense and pragmatism. Of course, for this reason, it is unlikely to happen ;)

bump

Ive done a lot of army reserve training and a lot of rock climbing.
Too old now.
I watched bear grylls do the foreign legion training.
It looked like those awesome physical training , intermixed with mental challenges .
Very similar to the SAS.
I was on a camp with some SAS guys as a medic and they ran, jogged a full marathon with rifles and packs, then hunkered down with no shelter in the rain, then were woken at 2am after virtually no sleep and made to perform complex map reading trigonometry whilst being screamed at by an NCO.
I love resilience training.
I cant understand why people don't want to see it a part of all human training.
Train hard and play easy is my motto.

Theres a lady at my equestrian club who is very inspirational . She could do the foreign legion.
Rode a full round of cross country with broken ribs.
She has done the Hawaii ironman, and ridden the tour de france route every year for the last 15 years.
We need to celebrate such people and hold them up as role models.
Weakness needs to be seen for what it is ....weakness.
You get more of whatever you reward...pavlov taught us this.
Time to reward strength and ignore weakness.
ciao

aquascoot wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 10:01am:

Really north , it isn't rocket science. Countries like france, Holland etc are seeing a lot of muslim enclaves. Now we can PRETEND its all "rich tapestry win/win" but the public have stopped buying it. As a rough , Hugh Mackay type guess I would think 50 % of the population of france are worried about the muslim issue. If the centrist politicians wont address the issue , then the right wingers will gain ground. So its up to the moderate muslims and sensible politicians to relentlessly stick the boot into the "non assimilators". Its in their best interest. This is just common sense and pragmatism. Of course, for this reason, it is unlikely to happen ;)

Correct, Aqua.

The most unstable element in Britain and Australia is the Muslim Factor ~ and the pollies are doing absolutely nothing about it.

They're leaving the violent consequences to the politicians of Tomorrow who will be forced to deal with it.

aquascoot wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 10:37am:

I was on a camp with some SAS guys as a medic and they ran, jogged a full marathon with rifles and packs, then hunkered down with no shelter in the rain, then were woken at 2am after virtually no sleep and made to perform complex map reading trigonometry whilst being screamed at by an NCO.

Why the Hell was he screaming? In a real situation that would have brought mortar-fire upon them from the enemy.

Idiotic NCO. He should have been whispering.


aquascoot wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 10:37am:

Train hard and play easy is my motto.

Not mine.

Rest Easy and NEVER VOLUNTEER FOR NUTHIN' is my motto.

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 11:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 10:37am: I was on a camp with some SAS guys as a medic and they ran, jogged a full marathon with rifles and packs, then hunkered down with no shelter in the rain, then were woken at 2am after virtually no sleep and made to perform complex map reading trigonometry whilst being screamed at by an NCO. Why the Hell was he screaming? In a real situation that would have brought mortar-fire upon them from the enemy. Idiotic NCO. He should have been whispering. aquascoot wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 10:37am: Train hard and play easy is my motto. Not mine. Rest Easy and NEVER VOLUNTEER FOR NUTHIN' is my motto.

;) ;) ;)

it was an army motto to never volunteer.
the other thing i liked about the army was that if you had a problem and went to a superior with it, very often the response would be
"that sounds like a personal problem"
and that was the end of the story.
ie.   legitimate complaints are welcome.
complaints for the sake of complaining are a personal issue and you had to just "deal with it"
i think there is a good lesson there for kids, parents, teachers, employees, politicians etc.
very often, people need to be told to "just deal with it" "its not my problem"

aquascoot wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 11:53am:

... the other thing i liked about the army was that if you had a problem and went to a superior with it, very often the response would be "that sounds like a personal problem" and that was the end of the story.

More's the pity.

How many girls (and boys) have reported sexual abuse, sexual harassment, and buggery, only for this to be fobbed off as 'personal and not army business?

And then when it finally gets to court and the story reaches the media ~ the whole country is disgusted at how the victims have been treated so shabbily by ranking personnel whose job it was to nip such persecution in the bud.

Sorry Aqua ~ I don't share your admiration for the more brutal and stupid aspects of the macho culture that exists in the army.

Too much scope for bullying until people start committing suicide.

The French have a good attitude

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 11:33am:

and the pollies are doing absolutely nothing about it. They're leaving the violent consequences to the politicians of Tomorrow who will be forced to deal with it.

Well, that's what pollies do... They are by necessity Machiavellian and at high risk of contracting chronic cynicism.

There's a Western caveat to the political cliche: "Never let an imagined crisis go to waste"... Being: Where that crisis does not vilify a minority.

In such cases those issues must be managed by (a) forums like this (where blank anonymity - or simple irrelevance - is prevalent) where the dyspeptic can fart at will... then (b) dog-whistle political rhetoric.

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Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 12:08pm:

The French have a good attitude

The French are arseholes.

For decades they've been facilitating the transfer of Muslim illegals into Britain through the Channel underground trains.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 12:09pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 11:33am: and the pollies are doing absolutely nothing about it. good point They're leaving the violent consequences to the politicians of Tomorrow who will be forced to deal with it. Well, that's what pollies do... They are by necessity Machiavellian and at high risk of contracting chronic cynicism. There's a Western caveat to the political cliche: "Never let an imagined crisis go to waste"... Being: Where that crisis does not vilify a minority. In such cases those issues must be managed by (a) forums like this (where blank anonymity - or simple irrelevance - is prevalent) where the dyspeptic can fart at will... then (b) dog-whistle political rhetoric.

good point

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 12:05pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 11:53am: ... the other thing i liked about the army was that if you had a problem and went to a superior with it, very often the response would be "that sounds like a personal problem" and that was the end of the story. More's the pity. How many girls (and boys) have reported sexual abuse, sexual harassment, and buggery, only for this to be fobbed off as 'personal and not army business? And then when it finally gets to court and the story reaches the media ~ the whole country is disgusted at how the victims have been treated so shabbily by ranking personnel whose job it was to nip such persecution in the bud. Sorry Aqua ~ I don't share your admiration for the more brutal and stupid aspects of the macho culture that exists in the army. Too much scope for bullying until people start committing suicide.

another good point

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 1^st, 2014 at 6:42pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 5:03pm: The rightwing Law and Justice Party is the second largest in the Polish Parliament. It's anti-homosexual. That hardly qualifies it as a Far Right party. It simply doesn't approve of arse-games between highly neurotic men.

I would have thought being anti gay would qualify as far right.

It is hardly a view of the centre or the left, is it?

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 12:08pm: The French have a good attitude The French are arseholes. For decades they've been facilitating the transfer of Muslim illegals into Britain through the Channel underground trains.

That's right. Those pesky French have the nerve to live next door to Mother England.

Sure, the UK is exhempt from the EU treaty on free movement within European borders. Sure, the French check trains and trucks with human heat sensors. Sure, there's a passport check to exit France and enter the UK.

But those French will do everything in their power to foil Mother England at all costs.

The enemy? It's not the Muselman, Herbie, it's the French.

Always, absolutely, never ever, non?

Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 12:58pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 6:42pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 5:03pm: The rightwing Law and Justice Party is the second largest in the Polish Parliament. It's anti-homosexual. That hardly qualifies it as a Far Right party. It simply doesn't approve of arse-games between highly neurotic men. I would have thought being anti gay would qualify as far right. It is hardly a view of the centre or the left, is it?

Not really, PF. Some of my best friends are anti-gay.

Not that there's anything wrong with it.

Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 12:58pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 6:42pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 1st, 2014 at 5:03pm: The rightwing Law and Justice Party is the second largest in the Polish Parliament. It's anti-homosexual. That hardly qualifies it as a Far Right party. It simply doesn't approve of arse-games between highly neurotic men. I would have thought being anti gay would qualify as far right. It is hardly a view of the centre or the left, is it?

Anti-gay is not far right.
Anti-gay is normal.

Far right is advanced.

You see? Far-right's the new progressive.

Postmodern Trendoid will no doubt agree.

Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 12:58pm:

I would have thought being anti gay would qualify as far right.

I have a horrible feeling you're not joking.

How many Christians in the World? All worshipping the God of the Bible ... the same Bible that condemns homosexuality in the strongest of terms.

How many countries officially identify as 'Christian? Are they all Rightwing Fascist States because their Holy Book is the Bible of anti-homosexuality ~ for which the penalty is Eternal Damnation in Hell.

And then we haven't even mentioned the 52 Muslim countries ~ all disapproving of gay sex.

You've been lulled into a false complacency by the West's massive socialist media into believing that 'everyone' is okay with gay-sex, and they can teach at our schools, and get married, and adopt children, etc etc.

It's all media hype. It sells advertising space. The media would prostitute its morally to hype paedophilia if that would turn a dollar for the industry.

Disapproving of buggery most certainly doesn't make a political party 'Far Right'.