http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/divers-seek-passengers-trapped-in-capsized-korean-ferry/story-e6frg6so-1226887357934

Fancy telling everyone, "not to move" and to stay in their cabins.
When it capsized, the people in their cabins could not get out.

Wouldn't that be the last place for people to go in the imminent danger of a boat/ferry capsizing?

Now they are diving to look for the nearly 300 deceased people inside this capsized ferry.
Shouldn't have all those people been made to go to the muster stations with life jackets on instead?
Can't trust the instructions of this "don't move" or "stay in your cabins".....if anyone says that to moiye, I would be not be obeying such nonsense. My life jacket would be on, and I would be ready to do 'the step off', from the outside deck. None can do that from the trappings on the insides of a cabin within a ship.

I don't know about anyone else, but in the last couple of cruise adventures I have been on, when the seas were rough as guts, I could not stay "inside"...would rather be on top deck, so I could see the sea. Need to know what is going on against the elements of nature.

all these people get Darwin awards unfortunately. Instead of using their precious time as the ship was sinking to try and get out they grabbed their mobile phones and started texting.

Same thing happened on 9/11. Maybe they don't want the stairwells full of people while the firies are trying to ascend.

The movement of the ship is probably much higher on top deck. You would be better of lower, but still somewhere where you can see the horizon.

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2014 at 6:06pm:

Same thing happened on 9/11.

To some extent, yes.

It later became known that many department bosses ordered their staff to remain where they were, rather than create a jam in the elevators, stairwells and passageways.

As things became more critical ~ people left their offices anyway.

The Captain of the Costa Concordia got off nicely, a pity he's facing criminal charges.

The Cap of this one got off too, that stuff about going down with the ship is a bit of an exaggeration, at least these days.

Don't like his chances in a Korean Court. Execution still in over there?

Won't bring back those poor kids though will it?

ian wrote on Apr 17^th, 2014 at 5:47pm:

all these people get Darwin awards unfortunately. Instead of using their precious time as the ship was sinking to try and get out they grabbed their mobile phones and started texting.

These were young teens, that were told to stay put, and they obeyed.
After all, who are they to question the elder in authority that know better?

All they had as a cry for help, was their mobile phones to text their parents, tell them they love them, and some sent final mobile phone photos of their lot, sitting in wait for orders to be able to evacuate with their life preservers on, but it never happened.

The captain has expressed shame and sorrow for what happened, but it won't bring back those hundreds of young souls.
These captains and crew, need to be re-trained in emergency situations it seems?
Sounds like it was handled with some blazay.

Remember this ferry diaster, as the ferry's loading doors were not closed properly, and 800 died?

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/800-feared-dead-in-ferry-disaster/347645.html

red baron wrote on Apr 17^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

The Captain of the Costa Concordia got off nicely, a pity he's facing criminal charges. The Cap of this one got off too, that stuff about going down with the ship is a bit of an exaggeration, at least these days. Don't like his chances in a Korean Court. Execution still in over there? Won't bring back those poor kids though will it?

The captain was one of the first ones off they are saying on the tv right now... he hiding his head under a towel in front of the cameras. ..

Fancy ordering passengers to stay in their rooms then jumping ship yourself...

What's it take to be a captain of a ship these days?

To be the biggest coward of your class?

red baron wrote on Apr 17^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

The Captain of the Costa Concordia got off nicely, a pity he's facing criminal charges. The Cap of this one got off too, that stuff about going down with the ship is a bit of an exaggeration, at least these days. Don't like his chances in a Korean Court. Execution still in over there? Won't bring back those poor kids though will it?

first off a terrible look... this was a ferry of what size for gods sake..



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Jindo (South Korea) (AFP) - South Korean divers renewed efforts Friday to access a capsized ferry in which hundreds of schoolchildren are feared trapped, as the grief and frustration of anguished parents gave way to anger an
Grieving S. Korean parents consumed by agony and anger AFP
The confirmed death toll rose overnight to 25, but the focus of concern remained the 271 people still unaccounted for 48 hours after the ferry capsized and sank Wednesday morning.

The coastguard says more than 500 divers have been deployed to the accident site, but powerful currents and poor visibility have frustrated attempts to access the submerged vessel in the increasingly slim hope of finding survivors trapped in air pockets.

The Sewol had 475 people on board when it ran into trouble, among them 352 children on a high school outing to Jeju island, a popular holiday destination.

Among the relatives of the missing, especially the parents of the students, there was growing resentment over what they see as the inadequacy of the rescue response.

In an appeal broadcast live on television Friday morning, a self-appointed spokesman for the relatives accused the authorities of indifference and deception.

- 'The government lied' -

"The government lied yesterday," he said, speaking at a podium in a gymnasium in Jindo island where hundreds of relatives have been sleeping on the floor since the tragedy unfolded.

Disputing the official figures of hundreds of divers, vessels and aircraft being deployed, he said he and other relatives had visited the rescue site and seen only a dozen ships and helicopters.

"Everyone, is this the reality of South Korea? We plead once more, please save our children," he said.

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Updated map showing the area off the south coast of South Korea where a ship carrying 477 people cap …
A large monitor offering a live feed from four cameras at the rescue site was brought into the gymnasium overnight, but initial interest in the fog-disrupted images soon faded.

The idiot Captain like that wop in charge of the Costa Concordia ran the bloody thing aground in shallow water being off course.

There's no excuse for this bloke ... I bet he's been plying these waters for a long time .... & with all the modern technology of GPS, SONAR, RADAR, DEPTH SOUNDERS, AUTO PILOT.....

How did he run it aground?

Because it was a junior officer in control of the ship.

Excuses excuses.... at the end of the both he & the Captain are for the high jump.

Gnads wrote on Apr 18^th, 2014 at 7:35pm:

Excuses excuses.... at the end of the both he & the Captain are for the high jump.

You asked how it ran aground with a captain who knew the waters.
The answer is because he wasn't in control of the vessel when it did.

Really ... who'd be dumb enough & still be called Captain to let a Junior Officer at the helm who doesn't know the waters?

red baron wrote on Apr 17^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

The Captain of the Costa Concordia got off nicely, a pity he's facing criminal charges.

I got sent this from my colleagues in Milan stating

'For every Schettino, Italy has a De Falco"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX_08zcCmx8

Schettino was a fricken coward.

Sophia wrote on Apr 17^th, 2014 at 10:53am:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/divers-seek-passengers-trapped-in-capsized-korean-ferry/story-e6frg6so-1226887357934 Fancy telling everyone, "not to move" and to stay in their cabins. When it capsized, the people in their cabins could not get out. Wouldn't that be the last place for people to go in the imminent danger of a boat/ferry capsizing? Now they are diving to look for the nearly 300 deceased people inside this capsized ferry. Shouldn't have all those people been made to go to the muster stations with life jackets on instead? Can't trust the instructions of this "don't move" or "stay in your cabins".....if anyone says that to moiye, I would be not be obeying such nonsense. My life jacket would be on, and I would be ready to do 'the step off', from the outside deck. None can do that from the trappings on the insides of a cabin within a ship. I don't know about anyone else, but in the last couple of cruise adventures I have been on, when the seas were rough as guts, I could not stay "inside"...would rather be on top deck, so I could see the sea. Need to know what is going on against the elements of nature.

Yes, that is where it went wrong and after all the Costa Concordia publicity, it is a wonder anyone listened.
The obvious thing is that in any sort of emergency, you assemble at your muster station.

Rough seas don't particularly worry me as most cruise ships are made to handle them and most captains avoid stormy areas anyway, if the can.

But if a ship got into any sort of trouble-life jacket and muster station, for sure.

From what I read, a lot of the youngies were trying to get out, they didn't stay in cabins, but found that the passageways were too crowded and with the ship listing, they had trouble moving.

I cannot think of ONE excuse for this...not one. >:(

I watched on the news somewhat, of the vice principal, and some of the students that survived.
The VP was so saddened that he survived and many of his students didnt, that he couldn't live with that, and thus, he took a walk in the forest and took his own life.

That is sad, he wasn't at fault.

I know big cruise ships have these stabilizers that would stop the ship from capsizing too much, do ferries have that? Some of them or none of them?

So in the event of anything that may look horribly wrong, put your life jacket on, and go to the muster station you were assigned to during the drill.

And should anyone say to go back inside, remind them of your right to be there as was instructed to do so during the safety drill.

We even had a drill on board the catamaran recently up in Cairns, on the way to Fitzroy Island, the instructor showing the life jacket and how you apply it, and where to meet in the event should something happen.

I take these instructions very seriously.
Deep water and me don't mix too well  :-/

The Koreans, every ready to blame Japan for any and every thing, have found another reason to hate Japan:  the ferry was Japanese-made.

Sophia wrote on Apr 21^st, 2014 at 10:43am:

I watched on the news somewhat, of the vice principal, and some of the students that survived. The VP was so saddened that he survived and many of his students didnt, that he couldn't live with that, and thus, he took a walk in the forest and took his own life. That is sad, he wasn't at fault. I know big cruise ships have these stabilizers that would stop the ship from capsizing too much, do ferries have that? Some of them or none of them? So in the event of anything that may look horribly wrong, put your life jacket on, and go to the muster station you were assigned to during the drill. And should anyone say to go back inside, remind them of your right to be there as was instructed to do so during the safety drill. We even had a drill on board the catamaran recently up in Cairns, on the way to Fitzroy Island, the instructor showing the life jacket and how you apply it, and where to meet in the event should something happen. I take these instructions very seriously. Deep water and me don't mix too well  :-/

its a ferry I dont think too much is put into lifesaving in these countries... I am waiting to hear the boat was overloaded usually one of the main  problems they have with sinking..

we have very stringent rules in this country..not all are like that.. look at the trains in India where they travel on the roof... can you see that happening here.??

Hush I took a trip on a ferry with my girlfriend and she went down on me....  (ta.boom.. tishhhh)...

Oh - sorry - the boat that is....

No time for levity?   OK.

I believe these ferries have stabilisers, but these are intended to even out rolling waves etc, not to compensate for some drastic disaster such as holes appearing in the hull etc.

I read somewhere of the possibility of wind causing containers to shift on deck (???? - wind???) or of perhaps hitting some floating object....

Anyone know yet?

Did the North Koreans do it?