TV call to prayer during Muslim holy month of Ramadan got MORE complaints than anything else on Channel 4 last year.

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In all truth I find it quite beautiful and evocative. It resonates in a way that takes one down through the centuries.

But even so it is part of the process of Islamising another man's country where no such intention was ever voted for by the general public. For this reason I'd have it taken off the television.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kCEtT4EKiM

just change the channel instead

... wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 3:59pm:

just change the channel instead

Can do, but it'll still be pumping out Islamisation on the other channel.

Like Norway said to Saudi Arabia after their offer to finance the building of mosques all across the country:

"We'll let you do that when you let us fund Christian churches all across Saudi Arabia".

Never heard a word from them after that.

So whats the issue?

wally1 wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 7:17pm:

So whats the issue?

The Islamisation-by-stealth of a Western country, with all of its negative ramifications for the future wellbeing of British society.

wally1 wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 7:17pm:

So whats the issue?

nonmuslims hate muslims.

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 9:06pm:

wally1 wrote on May 9th, 2014 at 7:17pm: So whats the issue? nonmuslims hate muslims.

I blame the UK Mail Online.

Typical.

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 10:02pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 9th, 2014 at 9:06pm: wally1 wrote on May 9th, 2014 at 7:17pm: So whats the issue? nonmuslims hate muslims. I blame the UK Mail Online. Typical.

Daily Mail is a superb paper, son.

Lord Herbert wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 8:04pm:

wally1 wrote on May 9th, 2014 at 7:17pm: So whats the issue? The Islamisation-by-stealth of a Western country, with all of its negative ramifications for the future wellbeing of British society.

Those crafty stealthy Muslims.  How devious to play a call to prayer on a national broadcast, no-one will ever even know.

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 10:02pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 9th, 2014 at 9:06pm: wally1 wrote on May 9th, 2014 at 7:17pm: So whats the issue? nonmuslims hate muslims. I blame the UK Mail Online. Typical.

I blame islam

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 9:06pm:

wally1 wrote on May 9th, 2014 at 7:17pm: So whats the issue? nonmuslims hate muslims.

I knew that about you already.

Lord Herbert wrote on May 9^th, 2014 at 8:04pm:

wally1 wrote on May 9th, 2014 at 7:17pm: So whats the issue? The Islamisation-by-stealth of a Western country, with all of its negative ramifications for the future wellbeing of British society.

How does the definition of stealth apply to the call of prayer?

They are putting words into people's heads without telling them what they mean.

freediver wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 9:00am:

They are putting words into people's heads without telling them what they mean.

Not surprising, as the call to prayer is in Arabic.....

Why can't they do it in God's language (English)? It would have the added benefit of people realising they are being called to prayer, rather than being wooed by a swarthy Paki.

freediver wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 9:27am:

Why can't they do it in God's language (English)? It would have the added benefit of people realising they are being called to prayer, rather than being wooed by a swarthy Paki.

Good thinking.  I'll try it tonight when I hit the bar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlLaUCAQlQQ

I'll get back to you with the results.

FD what's your opinion on having the call to prayer on public airways?

What if (say) SBS decided to broadcast it daily at maghrib time this ramadan?

It's a vexed question, as they say.

It will all lead to the dividing of society into two major cultural groups defined as Muslim, and non-Muslim.

I've heard enough from Christian Lebanese workmates during my life-time to know this is a recipe for creating a situation in which a nation becomes irreparably divided against itself.

polite_gandalf wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 9:50am:

FD what's your opinion on having the call to prayer on public airways? What if (say) SBS decided to broadcast it daily at maghrib time this ramadan?

I'll ignore the gibberish and say that it wouldn't bother me today if it was on a private channel. I don't think government run TV stations should be promoting religion. It violates the principle of separation of church and state.

freediver wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 10:23am:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 9:50am: FD what's your opinion on having the call to prayer on public airways? What if (say) SBS decided to broadcast it daily at maghrib time this ramadan? I'll ignore the gibberish and say that it wouldn't bother me today if it was on a private channel. I don't think government run TV stations should be promoting religion. It violates the principle of separation of church and state.

You really do promote such 'conservative' views, FD!       :)



The argument that would float, is, if the SBS would choose to broadcast the call to prayer during Ramadan, it [the SBS] would be promoting inter-cultural understanding, and exposing the Australian community to a broader understanding of ISLAM and its culture.

Thereby promoting inter-cultural harmony and inter-cultural tolerance.



And always remember FD;

The very meaning of the word 'ISLAM' is peace!!!

ISLAM promotes peace and harmony.         :P

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1398825014/172#172

Yadda wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 10:39am:

And always remember FD; The very meaning of the word 'ISLAM' is peace!!! ISLAM promotes peace and harmony.         :P

;D ;D ;D

Lord Herbert wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 10:43am:

Yadda wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 10:39am: And always remember FD; The very meaning of the word 'ISLAM' is peace!!! ISLAM promotes peace and harmony.         :P ;D ;D ;D

I know, it’s ridiculous. Look at all the peace and harmony we show them, only to have it thrown back in our faces, time and time again. We try so hard to be nice, and look what we get.

Sprint’s psychologist blames Islam. Well, he blames alienation, but it’s the same thing.

How could we possible broadcast these people on our airwaves?

freediver wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 9:27am:

Why can't they do it in God's language (English)? It would have the added benefit of people realising they are being called to prayer, rather than being wooed by a swarthy Paki.

Is Gods language english?

freediver wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 9:00am:

They are putting words into people's heads without telling them what they mean.

Exactly. You know what they’re doing? They’re trying to hypnotise us. It’s why there’s an epidemic of behavioural problems with troubled children these days. Sprint’s psychologist blames Islam.

Along with his morning spells, your Moslem uses his poisoned food. Everything these days is Halal - Halal this, Halal that, it’s ridiculous. Anyone who eats this is likely to come down with some form of Moslem thinking and behaviour. Have you seen how many men have grown those Moslem beards these days? It’s awful. Have you seen how many women have mustaches?

No, I blame Islam. Something needs to be done about this.

wally1 wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 12:14pm:

freediver wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 9:27am: Why can't they do it in God's language (English)? It would have the added benefit of people realising they are being called to prayer, rather than being wooed by a swarthy Paki. Is Gods language english?

Amerikan English, yes.

FD’s a Mormon, you see. We don’t always see eye to eye on matters of scripture, but when it comes to the Muselman, we think as one.

We blame Islam for everything.

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 12:20pm:

freediver wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 9:00am: They are putting words into people's heads without telling them what they mean. Exactly. You know what they’re doing? They’re trying to hypnotise us. It’s why there’s an epidemic of behavioural problems with troubled children these days. Sprint’s psychologist blames Islam. Along with his morning spells, your Moslem uses his poisoned food. Everything these days is Halal - Halal this, Halal that, it’s ridiculous. Anyone who eats this is likely to come down with some form of Moslem thinking and behaviour. Have you seen how many men have grown those Moslem beards these days? It’s awful. Have you seen how many women have mustaches? No, I blame Islam. Something needs to be done about this.

The quote by freediver is stupid.

If you cant understand the language then how can you put words in your heard.

wally1 wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

Karnal wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 12:20pm: freediver wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 9:00am: They are putting words into people's heads without telling them what they mean. Exactly. You know what they’re doing? They’re trying to hypnotise us. It’s why there’s an epidemic of behavioural problems with troubled children these days. Sprint’s psychologist blames Islam. Along with his morning spells, your Moslem uses his poisoned food. Everything these days is Halal - Halal this, Halal that, it’s ridiculous. Anyone who eats this is likely to come down with some form of Moslem thinking and behaviour. Have you seen how many men have grown those Moslem beards these days? It’s awful. Have you seen how many women have mustaches? No, I blame Islam. Something needs to be done about this. The quote by freediver is stupid. If you cant understand the language then how can you put words in your heard.

I think they do it through sound vibrations and the like. Your Moslem hears this spell and he’s off to his sinister mosque without even thinking. Sprint’s psychologist blames pavlova. You know, they salivate because they want to eat some cake or something.

Personally, I blame Islam. Fancy having to hypnotize people to get them into the mosque to make bombs and the like. Why can’t they just tell them to come instead? Why do these people have to make such a song and a dance out of everything?

freediver wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 9:27am:

Why can't they do it in God's language (English)? It would have the added benefit of people realising they are being called to prayer, rather than being wooed by a swarthy Paki.

Which god would that be?

A, Adad, Adapa, Adrammelech, Aeon, Agasaya, Aglibol, Ahriman, Ahura Mazda, Ahurani, Ai-ada, Al-Lat, Aja, Aka, Alalu, Al-Lat, Amm, Al-Uzza (El-'Ozza or Han-Uzzai), An, Anahita, Anath (Anat), Anatu, Anbay, Anshar, Anu, Anunitu, An-Zu, Apsu, Aqhat, Ararat, Arinna, Asherali, Ashnan, Ashtoreth, Ashur, Astarte, Atar, Athirat, Athtart, Attis, Aya, Baal (Bel), Baalat (Ba'Alat), Baau, Basamum, Beelsamin, Belit-Seri, Beruth, Borak, Broxa, Caelestis, Cassios, Lebanon, Antilebanon, and Brathy, Chaos, Chemosh, Cotys, Cybele, Daena, Daevas, Dagon, Damkina, Dazimus, Derketo, Dhat-Badan, Dilmun, Dumuzi (Du'uzu), Duttur, Ea, El, Endukugga, Enki, Enlil, Ennugi, Eriskegal, Ereshkigal (Allatu), Eshara, Eshmun, Firanak, Fravashi, Gatamdug, Genea, Genos, Gestinanna, Gula, Hadad, Hannahanna, Hatti, Hea, Hiribi, The Houri, Humban, Innana, Ishkur, Ishtar, Ithm, Jamshid or Jamshyd, Jehovah, Jesus, Kabta, Kadi, Kamrusepas, Ki (Kiki), Kingu, Kolpia, Kothar-u-Khasis, Lahar, Marduk, Mari, Meni, Merodach, Misor, Moloch, Mot, Mushdama, Mylitta, Naamah, Nabu (Nebo), Nairyosangha, Nammu, Namtaru, Nanna, Nebo, Nergal, Nidaba, Ninhursag or Nintu, Ninlil, Ninsar, Nintur, Ninurta, Pa, Qadshu, Rapithwin, Resheph (Mikal or Mekal), Rimmon, Sadarnuna, Shahar, Shalim, Shamish, Shapshu, Sheger, Sin, Siris (Sirah), Taautos, Tammuz, Tanit, Taru, Tasimmet, Telipinu, Tiamat, Tishtrya, Tsehub, Utnapishtim, Utu, Wurusemu, Yam, Yarih (Yarikh), Yima, Zaba, Zababa, Zam, Zanahary (Zanaharibe), Zarpandit, Zarathustra, Zatavu, Zazavavindrano, Ziusudra, Zu (Imdugud), Zurvan

China (170):
Ba, Caishen, Chang Fei, Chang Hsien, Chang Pan, Ch'ang Tsai, Chao san-Niang, Chao T'eng-k'ang, Chen Kao, Ch'eng Huang, Cheng San-Kung, Cheng Yuan-ho, Chi Po, Chien-Ti, Chih Jih, Chih Nii, Chih Nu, Ch'ih Sung-tzu, Ching Ling Tzu, Ch'ing Lung, Chin-hua Niang-niang, Chio Yuan-Tzu, Chou Wang, Chu Niao, Chu Ying, Chuang-Mu, Chu-jung, Chun T'i, Ch'ung Ling-yu, Chung Liu, Chung-kuei, Chung-li Ch'an, Di Jun, Fan K'uei, Fei Lien, Feng Pho-Pho, Fengbo, dam you Hsing, dam you-Hsi, dam you-Pao, Gaomei, Guan Di, Hao Ch'iu, Heng-o, Ho Po (Ping-I), Hou Chi, Hou T'u, Hsi Ling-su, Hsi Shih, Hsi Wang Mu, Hsiao Wu, Hsieh T'ien-chun, Hsien Nung, Hsi-shen, Hsu Ch'ang, Hsuan Wen-hua, Huang Ti, Huang T'ing, Huo Pu, Hu-Shen, Jen An, Jizo Bosatsu, Keng Yen-cheng, King Wan, Ko Hsien-Weng, Kuan Ti, Kuan Ti, Kuei-ku Tzu, Kuo Tzu-i, Lai Cho, Lao Lang, Lei Kung, Lei Tsu, Li Lao-chun, Li Tien, Liu Meng, Liu Pei, Lo Shen, Lo Yu, Lo-Tsu Ta-Hsien, Lu Hsing, Lung Yen, Lu-pan, Ma-Ku, Mang Chin-i, Mang Shen, Mao Meng, Men Shen, Miao Hu, Mi-lo Fo, Ming Shang, Nan-chi Hsien-weng, Niu Wang, Nu Wa, Nu-kua, Pa, Pa Cha, Pai Chung, Pai Liu-Fang, Pai Yu, P'an Niang, P'an-Chin-Lien, Pao Yuan-ch'uan, Phan Ku, P'i Chia-Ma, Pien Ho, San Kuan, Sao-ch'ing Niang, Sarudahiko, Shang Chien, Shang Ti, She chi, Shen Hsui-Chih, Shen Nung, Sheng Mu, Shih Liang, Shiu Fang, Shou-lao, Shun I dam you-jen, Sien-Tsang, Ssu-ma Hsiang-ju, Sun Pin, Sun Ssu-miao, Sung-Chiang, Tan Chu, T'ang Ming Huang, Tao Kung, T'ien Fei, Tien Hou, Tien Mu, Ti-tsang, Tsai Shen, Ts'an Nu, Ts'ang Chien, Tsao Chun, Tsao-Wang, T'shai-Shen, Tung Chun, T'ung Chung-chung, T'ung Lai-yu, Tung Lu, T'ung Ming, Tzu-ku Shen, Wa, Wang Ta-hsien, Wang-Mu-Niang-Niang, Weiwobo, Wen-ch'ang, Wu-tai Yuan-shuai, Xi Hou, Xi Wangmu, Xiu Wenyin, Yanwang, Yaoji, Yen-lo, Yen-Lo-Wang, Yi, Yu, Yu Ch'iang, Yu Huang, Yun-T'ung, Yu-Tzu, Zaoshen, Zhang Xi, , Zhin, Zhongguei, , Zigu Shen, , Zisun, Ch'ang-O

balto slavic: (125)
Aba-khatun, Aigiarm, Ajysyt, Alkonost, Almoshi, Altan-Telgey, Ama, Anapel, As-ava, Ausaitis, Austeja, Ayt'ar, Baba Yaga (Jezi Baba), Belobog (Belun), Boldogasszony, Breksta, Bugady Musun, Chernobog (Crnobog, Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog), Cinei-new, Colleda (Koliada), Cuvto-ava, Dali, Darzu-mate, Dazhbog, Debena, Devana, Diiwica (Dilwica), Doda (Dodola), Dolya, Dragoni, Dugnai, Dunne Enin, Edji, Elena, Erce, Etugen, Falvara, The Fates, The Fatit, Gabija, Ganiklis, Giltine, Hotogov Mailgan, Hov-ava, Iarila, Isten, Ja-neb'a, Jedza, Joda-mate, Kaldas, Kaltes, Keretkun, Khadau, Khursun (Khors), Kostrubonko, Kovas, Krumine, Kupala, Kupalo, Laima, Leshy, Marina, Marzana, Matergabiae, Mat Syra Zemlya, Medeine, Menu (Menulis), Mir-Susne-Khum, Myesyats, Nastasija, (Russia) Goddess of sleep., Nelaima, Norov, Numi-Tarem, Nyia, Ora, Ot, Patollo, Patrimpas, Pereplut, Perkuno, Perun, Pikuolis, Pilnytis, Piluitus, Potrimpo, Puskaitis, Rod, Rugevit, Rultennin, Rusalki, Sakhadai-Noin, Saule, Semargl, Stribog, Sudjaje, Svantovit (Svantevit, Svitovyd), Svarazic (Svarozic, Svarogich), Tengri, Tairgin, Triglav, Ulgen (Ulgan, lgn), Veles (Volos), Vesna, Xatel-Ekwa, Xoli-Kaltes, Yamm, Yarilo, Yarovit, Ynakhsyt, Zaria, Zeme mate, Zemyna, Ziva (Siva), Zizilia, Zonget, Zorya, Zvoruna, Zvezda Dennitsa, Zywie

I could go on but I'm running out of characters...my opinion, keep your god to yourself.

What's the saying? "If something needs advertising, its probably not good for you"

Do these British TVs, without "off" buttons, cost less than regular TVs?

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 1:06pm:

wally1 wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 12:49pm: Karnal wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 12:20pm: freediver wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 9:00am: They are putting words into people's heads without telling them what they mean. Exactly. You know what they’re doing? They’re trying to hypnotise us. It’s why there’s an epidemic of behavioural problems with troubled children these days. Sprint’s psychologist blames Islam. Along with his morning spells, your Moslem uses his poisoned food. Everything these days is Halal - Halal this, Halal that, it’s ridiculous. Anyone who eats this is likely to come down with some form of Moslem thinking and behaviour. Have you seen how many men have grown those Moslem beards these days? It’s awful. Have you seen how many women have mustaches? No, I blame Islam. Something needs to be done about this. The quote by freediver is stupid. If you cant understand the language then how can you put words in your heard. I think they do it through sound vibrations and the like. Your Moslem hears this spell and he’s off to his sinister mosque without even thinking. Sprint’s psychologist blames pavlova. You know, they salivate because they want to eat some cake or something. Personally, I blame Islam. Fancy having to hypnotize people to get them into the mosque to make bombs and the like. Why can’t they just tell them to come instead? Why do these people have to make such a song and a dance out of everything?

FD posts are 10 times worse that the muslim call to prayer.

In FDs defence, I think he was attempting to be funny or ironic or something.

polite_gandalf wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 4:33pm:

In FDs defence, I think he was attempting to be funny or ironic or something.

Let's hope it wasn't the "or something".

We don't want to frighten the horses.

polite_gandalf wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 4:33pm:

In FDs defence, I think he was attempting to be funny or ironic or something.

I think you might have FD confused with his 2007 nemesis, G.

The muslim call to prayer is harem as they sing it! NO singing in Islam!

Adamant wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 7:39pm:

The muslim call to prayer is harem as they sing it! NO singing in Islam!

Strange. The Islamic world exported singers and their songs for centuries.

There's no singing in Christianity either. Quakers sit in silence.

wally1 wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 12:14pm:

freediver wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 9:27am: Why can't they do it in God's language (English)? It would have the added benefit of people realising they are being called to prayer, rather than being wooed by a swarthy Paki. Is Gods language english?

I really think FD is slowly losing his marbles. His posts are getting increasingly ridiculous. either that or it is a deliberate attempt to make anti Muslims look stupid.

ian wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 8:46pm:

I really think FD is slowly losing his marbles.

;D ;D ;D

I would give him some of mine, but I lost them all a long time ago.  :P

ian wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 8:46pm:

wally1 wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 12:14pm: freediver wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 9:27am: Why can't they do it in God's language (English)? It would have the added benefit of people realising they are being called to prayer, rather than being wooed by a swarthy Paki. Is Gods language english? I really think FD is slowly losing his marbles. His posts are getting increasingly ridiculous. either that or it is a deliberate attempt to make anti Muslims look stupid.

Actually, I think you'll find it's an attempt to make anti-Muslims look smart.

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 10:04pm:

ian wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 8:46pm: wally1 wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 12:14pm: freediver wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 9:27am: Why can't they do it in God's language (English)? It would have the added benefit of people realising they are being called to prayer, rather than being wooed by a swarthy Paki. Is Gods language english? I really think FD is slowly losing his marbles. His posts are getting increasingly ridiculous. either that or it is a deliberate attempt to make anti Muslims look stupid. Actually, I think you'll find it's an attempt to make anti-Muslims look smart.

then its not working.

ian wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 10:59pm:

Karnal wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 10:04pm: ian wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 8:46pm: wally1 wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 12:14pm: freediver wrote on May 10th, 2014 at 9:27am: Why can't they do it in God's language (English)? It would have the added benefit of people realising they are being called to prayer, rather than being wooed by a swarthy Paki. Is Gods language english? I really think FD is slowly losing his marbles. His posts are getting increasingly ridiculous. either that or it is a deliberate attempt to make anti Muslims look stupid. Actually, I think you'll find it's an attempt to make anti-Muslims look smart. then its not working.

Oh, it keeps the old boy's croaking on. There must be some benefit to it all. Palliative care?

Maybe FD's performing a valuable service to the aged care sector, along with Alan's rants and Herbie's Daily Mail articles.

freediver wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 9:27am:

Why can't they do it in God's language (English)? It would have the added benefit of people realising they are being called to prayer, rather than being wooed by a swarthy Paki.

Perhaps they are paying tribute to the original swarthy inhabitants of Europe?


Quote:

Swarthy, blue-eyed caveman revealed using DNA from ancient tooth Genome sequence of 7,000-year-old human remains overturns popular image of light-skinned European hunter-gatherers http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jan/26/swarthy-blue-eyed-caveman-dna-tooth

There are still few of the swarthy ones left in Wales I hear.

http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8428/7597744254_2dd753924c.jpg

Typical. You can blame Islam for that.