Even the libs say Abbott is sexist ..... I know, all the rightards will cry and pretend to be victims and attack Senator Boyce ...

but I'll remind you of one thing,  she knows him, you idiots don't ... pay attention

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/24290860/retiring-senators-shot-at-sexist-pm/

So what?

I love how their true feelings come out.....once they're 'free'.

It doesn't say much for Boyce's character that she said nothing about it until she's about the leave the Senate.

adelcrow wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 4:05pm:

It doesn't say much for Boyce's character that she said about it until she's about the leave the Senate.

Agreed. She is a coward. I love how all these politicians manage to only tell the truth and/or reveal their feelings once they retire or lose their seats. Look at Hewson and Richardson. All the both of them do is rubbish both sides all the time. Funny how they never rubbished their own sides when they were in Parliament. Cowards, the lot of them, from both major parties.

It looks like all pollies will do as they're told and keep their greedy mouths shut until they have their generous super guaranteed.

adelcrow wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 4:47pm:

It looks like all pollies will do as they're told and keep their greedy mouths shut until they have their generous super guaranteed.

QFT

Swagman wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 3:59pm:

So what?

weren't you one of the ones denying that he was sexist?  weren't you putting Gillards claims down to sexism?

so what? your stupidity in defending Abbott against claims of sexism have been shot down by a lib, that's what!

John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 6:06pm:

Swagman wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 3:59pm: So what? weren't you one of the ones denying that he was sexist?  weren't you putting Gillards claims down to sexism? so what? your stupidity in defending Abbott against claims of sexism have been shot down by a lib, that's what!

I dont think Abbott is bright enough to know that he's sexist...the truth is that he is just an idiot who fell into power because he's constant negativity depressed a nation into believing that the end was nigh  :D

adelcrow wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 6:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 6:06pm: Swagman wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 3:59pm: So what? weren't you one of the ones denying that he was sexist?  weren't you putting Gillards claims down to sexism? so what? your stupidity in defending Abbott against claims of sexism have been shot down by a lib, that's what! I dont think Abbott is bright enough to know that he's sexist...the truth is that he is just an idiot who fell into power because he's constant negativity depressed a nation into believing that the end was nigh  :D

he got lucky with the timing .... he he tried for the top job at a time when labor wasn't busy cannibalising itself, Abbott would never have lasted

adelcrow wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 6:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 6:06pm: Swagman wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 3:59pm: So what? weren't you one of the ones denying that he was sexist?  weren't you putting Gillards claims down to sexism? so what? your stupidity in defending Abbott against claims of sexism have been shot down by a lib, that's what! I dont think Abbott is bright enough to know that he's sexist...the truth is that he is just an idiot who fell into power because he's constant negativity depressed a nation into believing that the end was nigh  :D

The real reason for Abbott's rise to high office is revealed by the flames and the smell of burning sulphur that emanated from his room some time after half past two in the morning the day after the election as the devil arrived to claim Abbott's soul...

matty wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 4:11pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 4:05pm: It doesn't say much for Boyce's character that she said about it until she's about the leave the Senate. Agreed. She is a coward. I love how all these politicians manage to only tell the truth and/or reveal their feelings once they retire or lose their seats. Look at Hewson and Richardson. All the both of them do is rubbish both sides all the time. Funny how they never rubbished their own sides when they were in Parliament. Cowards, the lot of them, from both major parties.

I love how all these politicians manage to only tell the truth and/or reveal their feelings once they retire or lose their seats.

You know that all the Libs stood behind all the policies before the election that they don't support now ???

On this topic there would be a few dozen more waiting to say what they know is true.

adelcrow wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 6:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 6:06pm: Swagman wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 3:59pm: So what? weren't you one of the ones denying that he was sexist?  weren't you putting Gillards claims down to sexism? so what? your stupidity in defending Abbott against claims of sexism have been shot down by a lib, that's what! I dont think Abbott is bright enough to know that he's sexist...the truth is that he is just an idiot who fell into power because he's constant negativity depressed a nation into believing that the end was nigh

That's actually a pretty good, and accurate, summation.

It's undoubtedly how the history books will remember him (if at all).

Worth bearing in mind that ALP members were known to be leaking damaging stories about their own side to the press.
Think Julia Gillards anti pensioner rant in cabinet was leaked by Rudd supporters to Laurie Oakes.

Both sides of politics are full of people without the cajones to stand up and give their view when they are in position.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 6:43pm:

Worth bearing in mind that ALP members were known to be leaking damaging stories about their own side to the press. Think Julia Gillards anti pensioner rant in cabinet was leaked by Rudd supporters to Laurie Oakes. Both sides of politics are full of people without the cajones to stand up and give their view when they are in position.

Absolutely.  Couldn't agree more.

However, it doesn't change the fact that Abbott is a sexist pig.

Yes he's soooo sexist...
He's married. (To a woman)  :)
Has 3 daughters.
His Chief of Staff is a woman.
His Party Deputy is also a woman.
He's a Monarchist (We have a Queen of the woman variety).

Yeahhhhh sure spells sexist to me  :D :D :D :D :D

*** bolded for those progs that may be confused.

You forgot to mention that his mother is a woman (I assume).

::)

(Just when you thought Grendel couldn't say anything more stupid ... )

I have 2 girls. I couldn't for the life of me believe Abbott is sexist.

I think he holds traditional values - which I like given I think the breakdown in the moral fabric of our society is abhorrent and has been led by the limp handed Left for decades.

But when you are father to girls, why on earth would you support views that would see them disadvantaged.
It's impossible for me to be sexist because I want the girls to be the best possible and succeed above everyone else - male and female.

It's a shame for me their first role model of Australian female PM was so such an utter abject failure.

matty wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 4:11pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 4:05pm: It doesn't say much for Boyce's character that she said about it until she's about the leave the Senate. Agreed. She is a coward. I love how all these politicians manage to only tell the truth and/or reveal their feelings once they retire or lose their seats. Look at Hewson and Richardson. All the both of them do is rubbish both sides all the time. Funny how they never rubbished their own sides when they were in Parliament. Cowards, the lot of them, from both major parties.

It's party discipline that precludes politicians from speaking out, not a lack of courage. Once freed from the shackles of party discipline, we see some quite interesting viewpoints from former representatives of the major parties.

Really so when will the ALP allow that for their members then eh?

John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 3:27pm:

Even the libs say Abbott is sexist ..... I know, all the rightards will cry and pretend to be victims and attack Senator Boyce ... but I'll remind you of one thing,  she knows him, you idiots don't ... pay attention https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/24290860/retiring-senators-shot-at-sexist-pm/

Nobody has ever heard of Sue Boyce until now - now that she is retiring.

A female senator who has made no mark blames Abbott for her own obscurity.

And the idiots like 'John Smith' are al there to howl and cheer. Stunningly pathetic even by your very low and rancourous standards.




Abbott has three daughters. He probably understands women better than most of us. (I have no daughters, my wife is the only female in the house. I am often baffled.)

Soren wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 7:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 3:27pm: Even the libs say Abbott is sexist ..... I know, all the rightards will cry and pretend to be victims and attack Senator Boyce ... but I'll remind you of one thing,  she knows him, you idiots don't ... pay attention https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/24290860/retiring-senators-shot-at-sexist-pm/ Nobody has ever heard of Sue Boyce until now - now that she is retiring. A female senator who has made no mark blames Abbott for her own obscurity.

Absolutely.

Couldn't agree more.

However, that doesn't change the fact that Abbott is a sexist pig.

Grendel wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 6:49pm:

Yes he's soooo sexist... He's married. (To a woman)  :) Has 3 daughters. His Chief of Staff is a woman. His Party Deputy is also a woman. He's a Monarchist (We have a Queen of the woman variety). Yeahhhhh sure spells sexist to me  :D :D :D :D :D *** bolded for those progs that may be confused.

These are irrelevancies that have nothing to do with Abbott's conduct.

You're asserting that his wife's chance birthing of daughters is evidence of a lack of sexism on Abbott's part? Really?

What a silly argument.  ::)

Some Abbott quotations for you to consider...

Quote:

What the housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing is that if they get it done commercially it’s going to go up in price and their own power bills when they switch the iron on are going to go up.

Quote:

Abortion is the easy way out. It’s hardly surprising that people should choose the most convenient exit from awkward situations.

Quote:

While I think men and women are equal, they are also different and I think it's inevitable and I don't think it's a bad thing at all that we always have, say, more women doing things like physiotherapy and an enormous number of women simply doing housework.

Quote:

I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 6:57pm:

I have 2 girls. I couldn't for the life of me believe Abbott is sexist. I think he holds traditional values - which I like given I think the breakdown in the moral fabric of our society is abhorrent and has been led by the limp handed Left for decades. But when you are father to girls, why on earth would you support views that would see them disadvantaged. It's impossible for me to be sexist because I want the girls to be the best possible and succeed above everyone else - male and female. It's a shame for me their first role model of Australian female PM was so such an utter abject failure.

Abbott's words:


Quote:

On women: * ‘The problem with the Australian practice of abortion is that an objectively grave matter has been reduced to a question of the mother’s convenience.’ *  ‘I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons’ *  ‘I think there does need to be give and take on both sides, and this idea that sex is kind of a woman’s right to absolutely withhold, just as the idea that sex is a man’s right to demand I think they are both they both need to be moderated, so to speak’ *  ‘What the housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing is that if they get it done commercially it’s going to go up in price and their own power bills when they switch the iron on are going to go up, every year…’

http://noplaceforsheep.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/abbott-on-women.jpg

Soren wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 7:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 3:27pm: Even the libs say Abbott is sexist ..... I know, all the rightards will cry and pretend to be victims and attack Senator Boyce ... but I'll remind you of one thing,  she knows him, you idiots don't ... pay attention https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/24290860/retiring-senators-shot-at-sexist-pm/ Nobody has ever heard of Sue Boyce until now - now that she is retiring. A female senator who has made no mark blames Abbott for her own obscurity. And the idiots like 'John Smith' are al there to howl and cheer. Stunningly pathetic even by your very low and rancourous standards. Abbott has three daughters. He probably understands women better than most of us. (I have no daughters, my wife is the only female in the house. I am often baffled.)

how does her obscurity change anything?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

the logic of a rightard  :D :D

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 7:21pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:15pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 3:27pm: Even the libs say Abbott is sexist ..... I know, all the rightards will cry and pretend to be victims and attack Senator Boyce ... but I'll remind you of one thing,  she knows him, you idiots don't ... pay attention https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/24290860/retiring-senators-shot-at-sexist-pm/ Nobody has ever heard of Sue Boyce until now - now that she is retiring. A female senator who has made no mark blames Abbott for her own obscurity. Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. However, that doesn't change the fact that Abbott is a sexist pig.

You fook it up in the last moment, like some Burkina Faso goalkeeper. So you.

I'll never get how anyone can say 'he isn't sexist, he's married and has a daughter'

as if that means anything?  ;D ;D ;D

Most men in the last 200 yrs were married to women, and the many of them had daughters .... and most men of that era were sexist

Soren wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 7:29pm:

You fook it up in the last moment. So you

is that supposed to be English?

Aussie wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 7:25pm:

*  ‘What the housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing is that if they get it done commercially it’s going to go up in price and their own power bills when they switch the iron on are going to go up, every year…’

See for me there is absolutely nothing wrong with that comment.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 7:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:25pm: *  ‘What the housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing is that if they get it done commercially it’s going to go up in price and their own power bills when they switch the iron on are going to go up, every year…’ See for me there is absolutely nothing wrong with that comment.

that's because you're just as sexist as Abbott is!

:D ;D :D ;D :D progs.... ;D ;D ;D

Soren wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 7:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:21pm: Soren wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:15pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 3:27pm: Even the libs say Abbott is sexist ..... I know, all the rightards will cry and pretend to be victims and attack Senator Boyce ... but I'll remind you of one thing,  she knows him, you idiots don't ... pay attention https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/24290860/retiring-senators-shot-at-sexist-pm/ Nobody has ever heard of Sue Boyce until now - now that she is retiring. A female senator who has made no mark blames Abbott for her own obscurity. Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. However, that doesn't change the fact that Abbott is a sexist pig. You fook it up in the last moment, like some Burkina Faso goalkeeper. So you.

Have another one, Soren.


http://cdn.healthcaretips101.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/drunk-man.jpg

John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 7:32pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:31pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:25pm: *  ‘What the housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing is that if they get it done commercially it’s going to go up in price and their own power bills when they switch the iron on are going to go up, every year…’ See for me there is absolutely nothing wrong with that comment. that's because you're just as sexist as Abbott is!

Housewives by definition stay at home and do the ironing, cooking and cleaning.
It's just calling it as it is.

My wife stayed at home for 2 years and did exactly this sort of stuff until last year.
How's it sexist to point out real world?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 7:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:32pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:31pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:25pm: *  ‘What the housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing is that if they get it done commercially it’s going to go up in price and their own power bills when they switch the iron on are going to go up, every year…’ See for me there is absolutely nothing wrong with that comment. that's because you're just as sexist as Abbott is! Housewives by definition stay at home and do the ironing, cooking and cleaning. It's just calling it as it is. My wife stayed at home for 2 years and did exactly this sort of stuff until last year. How's it sexist to point out real world?

no, housewifes do not stay home and cook and clean and iron ....  they get their nails painted, they fix the car, they change the tap washer .....

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 7:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:32pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:31pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:25pm: *  ‘What the housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing is that if they get it done commercially it’s going to go up in price and their own power bills when they switch the iron on are going to go up, every year…’ See for me there is absolutely nothing wrong with that comment. that's because you're just as sexist as Abbott is! Housewives by definition stay at home and do the ironing, cooking and cleaning. It's just calling it as it is. My wife stayed at home for 2 years and did exactly this sort of stuff until last year. How's it sexist to point out real world?

Why didn't he mention househusbands?

Of course Abbott is a sexist & misogynist—his sisters were pushed into the background and all attention focussed on monkey.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 7:47pm:

Housewives by definition stay at home and do the ironing, cooking and cleaning

who's definition?

Merriam Webster describes a housewife as a married woman who is in charge of her household
no mention of ironing there

Oxford DictionaryA married woman whose main occupation is caring for her family, managing household affairs, and doing housework:
nope, still no ironing

Dictionary.com house·wife  [hous-wahyf or, usually, huhz-if for 2]  Show IPA 
noun, plural house·wives  [hous-wahyvz]  Show IPA . 1. Sometimes Offensive . a married woman who manages her own household, especially as her principal occupation

nope, still no ironing ......

Grendel wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 6:49pm:

Yes he's soooo sexist... He's married. (To a woman)  :) Has 3 daughters. His Chief of Staff is a woman. His Party Deputy is also a woman. He's a Monarchist (We have a Queen of the woman variety). Yeahhhhh sure spells sexist to me  :D :D :D :D :D *** bolded for those progs that may be confused.

Agreed 100%

Andrea, you are on a hiding to nothing here.  Explain this one away.


Quote:

‘I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons’

Bam wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 7:12pm:

matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 4:11pm: adelcrow wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 4:05pm: It doesn't say much for Boyce's character that she said about it until she's about the leave the Senate. Agreed. She is a coward. I love how all these politicians manage to only tell the truth and/or reveal their feelings once they retire or lose their seats. Look at Hewson and Richardson. All the both of them do is rubbish both sides all the time. Funny how they never rubbished their own sides when they were in Parliament. Cowards, the lot of them, from both major parties. It's party discipline that precludes politicians from speaking out, not a lack of courage. Once freed from the shackles of party discipline, we see some quite interesting viewpoints from former representatives of the major parties.

I disagree. I think that people like this are cowards and hypocrites. Especially those who anonymously leak to the press.

matty wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 7:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 6:49pm: Yes he's soooo sexist... He's married. (To a woman)  :) Has 3 daughters. His Chief of Staff is a woman. His Party Deputy is also a woman. He's a Monarchist (We have a Queen of the woman variety). Yeahhhhh sure spells sexist to me  :D :D :D :D :D *** bolded for those progs that may be confused. Agreed 100%

explain how the fact that he's married and has daughters means he can't be sexist? my grandfather was married twice, and had 2 daughters, and remains one of the most sexist men I've ever known .. :D :D :D :D

matty wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:00pm:

Bam wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:12pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 4:11pm: adelcrow wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 4:05pm: It doesn't say much for Boyce's character that she said about it until she's about the leave the Senate. Agreed. She is a coward. I love how all these politicians manage to only tell the truth and/or reveal their feelings once they retire or lose their seats. Look at Hewson and Richardson. All the both of them do is rubbish both sides all the time. Funny how they never rubbished their own sides when they were in Parliament. Cowards, the lot of them, from both major parties. It's party discipline that precludes politicians from speaking out, not a lack of courage. Once freed from the shackles of party discipline, we see some quite interesting viewpoints from former representatives of the major parties. I disagree. I think that people like this are cowards and hypocrites. Especially those who anonymously leak to the press.

you need to get into the real world .... they aren't going to risk their cushy job just because they disagee with the boss .... they wait until the job is no longer an impediment on their speaking out and then they speak out

I think that men are actually better decision-makers than women, anyway. Women rely too much on their emotions, and are too fickle. On the other hand though, they are probably better than men with young children, so I think that the man is better off being the breadwinner of the family, and the woman should stay home and nurture the children.

Many would see these views as sexist, but I don't, it's just being objective and practical.

John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:02pm:

matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:59pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 6:49pm: Yes he's soooo sexist... He's married. (To a woman)  :) Has 3 daughters. His Chief of Staff is a woman. His Party Deputy is also a woman. He's a Monarchist (We have a Queen of the woman variety). Yeahhhhh sure spells sexist to me  :D :D :D :D :D *** bolded for those progs that may be confused. Agreed 100% explain how the fact that he's married and has daughters means he can't be sexist? my grandfather was married twice, and had 2 daughters, and remains one of the most sexist men I've ever known .. :D :D :D :D

Fair point, I was referring more to the points about his deputy and chief of staff. That said though, he obviously les his wife and daughters very much.

matty wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:07pm:

I think that men are actually better decision-makers than women, anyway. Women rely too much on their emotions, and are too fickle. On the other hand though, they are probably better than men with young children, so I think that the man is better off being the breadwinner of the family, and the woman should stay home and nurture the children. Many would see these views as sexist, but I don't, it's just being objective and practical.

http://blog.timelypersuasion.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/screenshot_86.jpg

John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:04pm:

matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:00pm: Bam wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:12pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 4:11pm: adelcrow wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 4:05pm: It doesn't say much for Boyce's character that she said about it until she's about the leave the Senate. Agreed. She is a coward. I love how all these politicians manage to only tell the truth and/or reveal their feelings once they retire or lose their seats. Look at Hewson and Richardson. All the both of them do is rubbish both sides all the time. Funny how they never rubbished their own sides when they were in Parliament. Cowards, the lot of them, from both major parties. It's party discipline that precludes politicians from speaking out, not a lack of courage. Once freed from the shackles of party discipline, we see some quite interesting viewpoints from former representatives of the major parties. I disagree. I think that people like this are cowards and hypocrites. Especially those who anonymously leak to the press. you need to get into the real world .... they aren't going to risk their cushy job just because they disagee with the boss .... they wait until the job is no longer an impediment on their speaking out and then they speak out

Exactly, and to me that makes them a coward and a hypocrite, regardless of whether they're Coalition or Labor.

Making the home is what my lady did for 2-3 years.
Did she spend 24/7 doing the ironing??
No of course not. We had a lady do a bit of that when she came in. But my wife certainly did it as well as part of making the home.
Of course the other things of cooking the dinner, making the beds, looking after the toddlers etc.

You're just making something out of nothing here.

I see no issue in his comment.

matty wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:02pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:59pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 6:49pm: Yes he's soooo sexist... He's married. (To a woman)  :) Has 3 daughters. His Chief of Staff is a woman. His Party Deputy is also a woman. He's a Monarchist (We have a Queen of the woman variety). Yeahhhhh sure spells sexist to me  :D :D :D :D :D *** bolded for those progs that may be confused. Agreed 100% explain how the fact that he's married and has daughters means he can't be sexist? my grandfather was married twice, and had 2 daughters, and remains one of the most sexist men I've ever known .. :D :D :D :D Fair point, I was referring more to the points about his deputy and chief of staff. That said though, he obviously les his wife and daughters very much.

“les” (“loves” I guess you were drooling?

Oh yeah, so explain why he is living in the AFP (male) barracks, why he didn’t take wify overseas?

He is no family man. Peta Credlin is the wife of Brain Loughnane, maybe monkey had no choice re CoS?


Try thinking some time Matty.

matty wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:04pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:00pm: Bam wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:12pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 4:11pm: adelcrow wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 4:05pm: It doesn't say much for Boyce's character that she said about it until she's about the leave the Senate. Agreed. She is a coward. I love how all these politicians manage to only tell the truth and/or reveal their feelings once they retire or lose their seats. Look at Hewson and Richardson. All the both of them do is rubbish both sides all the time. Funny how they never rubbished their own sides when they were in Parliament. Cowards, the lot of them, from both major parties. It's party discipline that precludes politicians from speaking out, not a lack of courage. Once freed from the shackles of party discipline, we see some quite interesting viewpoints from former representatives of the major parties. I disagree. I think that people like this are cowards and hypocrites. Especially those who anonymously leak to the press. you need to get into the real world .... they aren't going to risk their cushy job just because they disagee with the boss .... they wait until the job is no longer an impediment on their speaking out and then they speak out Exactly, and to me that makes them a coward and a hypocrite, regardless of whether they're Coalition or Labor.

no, it makes them realists ...... unless you were born with millions, most people need their jobs Matty, they all have bills to pay ...

you ever wonder why Rudd was so destructive? because he didn't care ... he was worth more money than he knew what to do with and there was nothing labor could do to threaten that ... they already took away his throne ....

matty wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:02pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:59pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 6:49pm: Yes he's soooo sexist... He's married. (To a woman)  :) Has 3 daughters. His Chief of Staff is a woman. His Party Deputy is also a woman. He's a Monarchist (We have a Queen of the woman variety). Yeahhhhh sure spells sexist to me  :D :D :D :D :D *** bolded for those progs that may be confused. Agreed 100% explain how the fact that he's married and has daughters means he can't be sexist? my grandfather was married twice, and had 2 daughters, and remains one of the most sexist men I've ever known .. :D :D :D :D Fair point, I was referring more to the points about his deputy and chief of staff. That said though, he obviously les his wife and daughters very much.

cheif of staff? political advantage thats why he chose PETA ...

as for loving his wife and daughters, i don't doubt it, most guys do, even the sexist ones.

St George of the Garden wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:12pm:

matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:08pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:02pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:59pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 6:49pm: Yes he's soooo sexist... He's married. (To a woman)  :) Has 3 daughters. His Chief of Staff is a woman. His Party Deputy is also a woman. He's a Monarchist (We have a Queen of the woman variety). Yeahhhhh sure spells sexist to me  :D :D :D :D :D *** bolded for those progs that may be confused. Agreed 100% explain how the fact that he's married and has daughters means he can't be sexist? my grandfather was married twice, and had 2 daughters, and remains one of the most sexist men I've ever known .. :D :D :D :D Fair point, I was referring more to the points about his deputy and chief of staff. That said though, he obviously les his wife and daughters very much. “les” (“loves” I guess you were drooling? Oh yeah, so explain why he is living in the AFP (male) barracks, why he didn’t take wify overseas? He is no family man. Peta Credlin is the wife of Brain Loughnane, maybe monkey had no choice re CoS? Try thinking some time Matty.

Sorry, typo.

He should have chosen anyone, man or woman. But he chose a woman.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:12pm:

Making the home is what my lady did for 2-3 years. Did she spend 24/7 doing the ironing?? No of course not. We had a lady do a bit of that when she came in. But my wife certainly did it as well as part of making the home. Of course the other things of cooking the dinner, making the beds, looking after the toddlers etc. You're just making something out of nothing here. I see no issue in his comment.

Why didn't he mention househusbands?


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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:16pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:12pm: Making the home is what my lady did for 2-3 years. Did she spend 24/7 doing the ironing?? No of course not. We had a lady do a bit of that when she came in. But my wife certainly did it as well as part of making the home. Of course the other things of cooking the dinner, making the beds, looking after the toddlers etc. You're just making something out of nothing here. I see no issue in his comment. Why didn't he mention househusbands? http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma0feaG2111qi00ie.jpg

Because they are a pretty rare breed.

Never really understood that lot. Talk about place your balls in your wife's handbag.

John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:13pm:

matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:09pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:04pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:00pm: Bam wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:12pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 4:11pm: adelcrow wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 4:05pm: It doesn't say much for Boyce's character that she said about it until she's about the leave the Senate. Agreed. She is a coward. I love how all these politicians manage to only tell the truth and/or reveal their feelings once they retire or lose their seats. Look at Hewson and Richardson. All the both of them do is rubbish both sides all the time. Funny how they never rubbished their own sides when they were in Parliament. Cowards, the lot of them, from both major parties. It's party discipline that precludes politicians from speaking out, not a lack of courage. Once freed from the shackles of party discipline, we see some quite interesting viewpoints from former representatives of the major parties. I disagree. I think that people like this are cowards and hypocrites. Especially those who anonymously leak to the press. you need to get into the real world .... they aren't going to risk their cushy job just because they disagee with the boss .... they wait until the job is no longer an impediment on their speaking out and then they speak out Exactly, and to me that makes them a coward and a hypocrite, regardless of whether they're Coalition or Labor. no, it makes them realists ...... unless you were born with millions, most people need their jobs Matty, they all have bills to pay ... you ever wonder why Rudd was so destructive? because he didn't care ... he was worth more money than he knew what to do with and there was nothing labor could do to threaten that ... they already took away his throne ....

Your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but I disagree. I think that it makes them cowards. They could be putting forth their opinions when it actually matters, but no, only do so nce they're out and no longer in a position of relevance. Look at Richo and Hewson on Sky news every other Friday morning.  Quite prepared to bag what their own aide is doing, but no doubt if they were there still they'd be supporting it up hill and down dale. To me that is the ultimate coward. If you disagree, that is your prerogative, but that is my opinion.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:16pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:12pm: Making the home is what my lady did for 2-3 years. Did she spend 24/7 doing the ironing?? No of course not. We had a lady do a bit of that when she came in. But my wife certainly did it as well as part of making the home. Of course the other things of cooking the dinner, making the beds, looking after the toddlers etc. You're just making something out of nothing here. I see no issue in his comment. Why didn't he mention househusbands? http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma0feaG2111qi00ie.jpg Because they are a pretty rare breed. Never really understood that lot. Talk about place your balls in your wife's handbag.

Why didn't he mention single men who do their own ironing?


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John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:15pm:

matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:08pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:02pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:59pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 6:49pm: Yes he's soooo sexist... He's married. (To a woman)  :) Has 3 daughters. His Chief of Staff is a woman. His Party Deputy is also a woman. He's a Monarchist (We have a Queen of the woman variety). Yeahhhhh sure spells sexist to me  :D :D :D :D :D *** bolded for those progs that may be confused. Agreed 100% explain how the fact that he's married and has daughters means he can't be sexist? my grandfather was married twice, and had 2 daughters, and remains one of the most sexist men I've ever known .. :D :D :D :D Fair point, I was referring more to the points about his deputy and chief of staff. That said though, he obviously les his wife and daughters very much. cheif of staff? political advantage thats why he chose PETA ... as for loving his wife and daughters, i don't doubt it, most guys do, even the sexist ones.

How do you know that's why he chose her. Did he tell you that?

Soren wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 7:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 3:27pm: Even the libs say Abbott is sexist ..... I know, all the rightards will cry and pretend to be victims and attack Senator Boyce ... but I'll remind you of one thing,  she knows him, you idiots don't ... pay attention https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/24290860/retiring-senators-shot-at-sexist-pm/ Nobody has ever heard of Sue Boyce until now - now that she is retiring. A female senator who has made no mark blames Abbott for her own obscurity. And the idiots like 'John Smith' are al there to howl and cheer. Stunningly pathetic even by your very low and rancourous standards. Abbott has three daughters. He probably understands women better than most of us. (I have no daughters, my wife is the only female in the house. I am often baffled.)

Yet Boyce knows the women basher personally and none of you do. Oh except for armchair his office girl.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:16pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:12pm: Making the home is what my lady did for 2-3 years. Did she spend 24/7 doing the ironing?? No of course not. We had a lady do a bit of that when she came in. But my wife certainly did it as well as part of making the home. Of course the other things of cooking the dinner, making the beds, looking after the toddlers etc. You're just making something out of nothing here. I see no issue in his comment. Why didn't he mention househusbands? http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma0feaG2111qi00ie.jpg Because they are a pretty rare breed. Never really understood that lot. Talk about place your balls in your wife's handbag.

As opposed to your wife placing her vagina into your wallet?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:09pm:

matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:07pm: I think that men are actually better decision-makers than women, anyway. Women rely too much on their emotions, and are too fickle. On the other hand though, they are probably better than men with young children, so I think that the man is better off being the breadwinner of the family, and the woman should stay home and nurture the children. Many would see these views as sexist, but I don't, it's just being objective and practical. http://blog.timelypersuasion.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/screenshot_86.jpg

Please can the PC softcock crap.

matty wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:09pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:07pm: I think that men are actually better decision-makers than women, anyway. Women rely too much on their emotions, and are too fickle. On the other hand though, they are probably better than men with young children, so I think that the man is better off being the breadwinner of the family, and the woman should stay home and nurture the children. Many would see these views as sexist, but I don't, it's just being objective and practical. http://blog.timelypersuasion.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/screenshot_86.jpg Please can the PC softcock crap.

You prefer the hardcock crap, matty?

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I do my own ironing of my shirts actually - I didn't feel left out.
He was making a point to housewives up and down the country - many of whom do the ironing.

Like I said, something out of nothing. As usual.

Face it - a lot of you simply just don't like him.
I happen to think he's alright and I like that he has traditional social values.

I'd take the values of the 1950s over present day if I'm honest.

Aussie wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:23pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:21pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:16pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:12pm: Making the home is what my lady did for 2-3 years. Did she spend 24/7 doing the ironing?? No of course not. We had a lady do a bit of that when she came in. But my wife certainly did it as well as part of making the home. Of course the other things of cooking the dinner, making the beds, looking after the toddlers etc. You're just making something out of nothing here. I see no issue in his comment. Why didn't he mention househusbands? http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma0feaG2111qi00ie.jpg Because they are a pretty rare breed. Never really understood that lot. Talk about place your balls in your wife's handbag. As opposed to your wife placing her vagina into your wallet?

She's got her own account and out-earned me for all our pre children years.
In 2006 she was clearing $50k more than me working in investment banking.
She's many things - living off me ain't one though...

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:26pm:

I do my own ironing of my shirts actually - I didn't feel left out.

It's not about anyone feeling left out.


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It's about Abbott being an out of touch sexist pig.

“Please can the PC softcock crap.” doesn’t sound like a deeply religious person. More like a twat.

He's not out of touch.
Many housewives up and down the country do the ironing .
He was talking to them. He was aiming comments on how a policy impacts them.

That others do ironing too - like I do - is utterly irrelevant he wasn't aiming the comment to my populace sector.

So hard for some of you to get that.

I have a much bigger issue with Gillard saying in private we shouldn't do a policy which benefits retirees because "they don't tend to vote Labor" than a public comment aimed to a group of people.

I know which I find much more disturbing.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:37pm:

That others do ironing too - like I do - is utterly irrelevant ...

No, it's not.  It's completely relevant.

Moreover, his failure to recognise the relevance is what makes him a sexist pig.

Moving on.  Andrei, this one:


Quote:

‘I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons’

Aussie wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:46pm:

Moving on.  Andrei, this one: Quote: ‘I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons’

I don't think there will ever be a Female Prime Minister in my lifetime
Margaret Thatcher, 1974

Turned out to be totally wrong too.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:46pm: Moving on.  Andrei, this one: Quote: ‘I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons’ I don't think there will ever be a Female Prime Minister in my lifetime Margaret Thatcher, 1974 Turned out to be totally wrong too.

That's not the point.

Are you pretending to be this stupid?

If you are, you're a bloody good troll.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:46pm: Moving on.  Andrei, this one: Quote: ‘I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons’ I don't think there will ever be a Female Prime Minister in my lifetime Margaret Thatcher, 1974 Turned out to be totally wrong too.

Cute, but it it does not address what Abbott said.  I take it you can't either?

I am not going to sit here and defend every comment of a politician to several people who openly admit to hating the particular guy in the first place.

I don't find Abbott sexist. I find he has traditional social values and a moral compass I share.

I abhor a lot of today's values on sex and morality.

That's it from me. Carry on a circle jerk if you want.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 9:04pm:

I find he has traditional social values and a moral compass I share.

Nobody is denying that.


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However, that doesn't change the fact that Abbott is a sexist pig.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 9:04pm:

I am not going to sit here and defend every comment of a politician to several people who openly admit to hating the particular guy in the first place. I don't find Abbott sexist. I find he has traditional social values and a moral compass I share. I abhor a lot of today's values on sex and morality. That's it from me. Carry on a circle jerk if you want.

Weak a wiss.  You start an argument, get overwhelmed by responses and you wimp off like some mongrel dog faced down by an obvious and available ant.

Andrei, grow some balls and explain why this is not a sexist remark:


Quote:

‘I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons’

Or, I suppose it is open for your opponents to conclude that when faced with simple bare faced real life, you are forced to run away because the dream suddenly became a reality you cannot respond to.

Why not just concede that Abbott is a sexist person?  Why defend the indefensible?

Abbott sexist - NEVER!

I love it when they eat their own.

matty wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:13pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:09pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:04pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:00pm: Bam wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:12pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 4:11pm: adelcrow wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 4:05pm: It doesn't say much for Boyce's character that she said about it until she's about the leave the Senate. Agreed. She is a coward. I love how all these politicians manage to only tell the truth and/or reveal their feelings once they retire or lose their seats. Look at Hewson and Richardson. All the both of them do is rubbish both sides all the time. Funny how they never rubbished their own sides when they were in Parliament. Cowards, the lot of them, from both major parties. It's party discipline that precludes politicians from speaking out, not a lack of courage. Once freed from the shackles of party discipline, we see some quite interesting viewpoints from former representatives of the major parties. I disagree. I think that people like this are cowards and hypocrites. Especially those who anonymously leak to the press. you need to get into the real world .... they aren't going to risk their cushy job just because they disagee with the boss .... they wait until the job is no longer an impediment on their speaking out and then they speak out Exactly, and to me that makes them a coward and a hypocrite, regardless of whether they're Coalition or Labor. no, it makes them realists ...... unless you were born with millions, most people need their jobs Matty, they all have bills to pay ... you ever wonder why Rudd was so destructive? because he didn't care ... he was worth more money than he knew what to do with and there was nothing labor could do to threaten that ... they already took away his throne .... Your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but I disagree. I think that it makes them cowards. They could be putting forth their opinions when it actually matters, but no, only do so nce they're out and no longer in a position of relevance. Look at Richo and Hewson on Sky news every other Friday morning.  Quite prepared to bag what their own aide is doing, but no doubt if they were there still they'd be supporting it up hill and down dale. To me that is the ultimate coward. If you disagree, that is your prerogative, but that is my opinion.

says the guy who runs to daddy whenever he needs money ...  ;D ;D ;D ;D

As for Richo, same thing. ... he does it for the money ... he didn't speak out before because his money was coming courtesy of the ALP, he's bagging the ALP now because the more he bags the ALP, the more money he makes

money makers the world tick Matty ... the sooner you learn that the better ... just about every major decision people makes revolves around money in some way shape or form.

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 9:31pm:

Abbott sexist - NEVER! I love it when they eat their own.

We've had 5 years of the ALP in open warfare....

matty wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:15pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:08pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:02pm: matty wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:59pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 6:49pm: Yes he's soooo sexist... He's married. (To a woman)  :) Has 3 daughters. His Chief of Staff is a woman. His Party Deputy is also a woman. He's a Monarchist (We have a Queen of the woman variety). Yeahhhhh sure spells sexist to me  :D :D :D :D :D *** bolded for those progs that may be confused. Agreed 100% explain how the fact that he's married and has daughters means he can't be sexist? my grandfather was married twice, and had 2 daughters, and remains one of the most sexist men I've ever known .. :D :D :D :D Fair point, I was referring more to the points about his deputy and chief of staff. That said though, he obviously les his wife and daughters very much. cheif of staff? political advantage thats why he chose PETA ... as for loving his wife and daughters, i don't doubt it, most guys do, even the sexist ones. How do you know that's why he chose her. Did he tell you that?

true, she could be giving him blow jobs on the side ... that may be a reason too!

I've never had a woman boss to date and thinking now it's unlikely I will - my employer is not rife with women at VP level - but getting a BJ from a superior is apparently the greatest feeling of all.
According to Jack Nicholson in a Few Good Men anyway.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 9:34pm:

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 9:31pm: Abbott sexist - NEVER! I love it when they eat their own. We've had 5 years of the ALP in open warfare....

And that has what part of diddlysquat to do with Abbott's sexist remarks?  Please do stay on topic Mr Hicks, and there is a question of mine ^^^^^^^ you have not responded to. 

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 9:39pm:

I've never had a woman boss to date and thinking now it's unlikely I will - my employer is not rife with women at VP level - but getting a BJ from a superior is apparently the greatest feeling of all. According to Jack Nicholson in a Few Good Men anyway.

So you think Peta is Tony's superior?

John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 9:41pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 9:39pm: I've never had a woman boss to date and thinking now it's unlikely I will - my employer is not rife with women at VP level - but getting a BJ from a superior is apparently the greatest feeling of all. According to Jack Nicholson in a Few Good Men anyway. So you think Peta is Tony's superior?

The Chief of Staff is generally the one calling the shots in practice.

I don't think Yes Minister was ever that far from the truth.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 9:39pm:

I've never had a woman boss to date and thinking now it's unlikely I will - my employer is not rife with women at VP level - but getting a BJ from a superior is apparently the greatest feeling of all. According to Jack Nicholson in a Few Good Men anyway.

Of course, there was nothing sexist about that either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wndkp11DNso

Mate, you just keep digging that hole.  You might need another shovel soon enough.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 9:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 9:41pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 9:39pm: I've never had a woman boss to date and thinking now it's unlikely I will - my employer is not rife with women at VP level - but getting a BJ from a superior is apparently the greatest feeling of all. According to Jack Nicholson in a Few Good Men anyway. So you think Peta is Tony's superior? The Chief of Staff is generally the one calling the shots in practice. I don't think Yes Minister was ever that far from the truth.

Until Tony decides to sack her ..... that's not a superior in my books.

Yes Minister was not about a CoS and Minister but Minister and Permanent Secretary. You need to be much more across the details, Andrea!

A CoS runs the office, not the Minister. But monkey is so thick that it is the other way around. He would be lost in 5 minutes without Peta—and he knows it!

Aussie wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 9:40pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 9:34pm: Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 9:31pm: Abbott sexist - NEVER! I love it when they eat their own. We've had 5 years of the ALP in open warfare.... And that has what part of diddlysquat to do with Abbott's exist remarks?  Please do stay on topic Mr Hicks, and there is a question of mine ^^^^^^^ you have not responded to.

No. The subject seems to be a hatred of Abbott and just as usual kicking in for the sake of it.
You hate Abbott and just tear into him for anything.
You're biased as all he'll.

Yet actually support that useless tub of lard fat lunatic who belongs in an asylum who leads a party that forms policy on the basis of what said loon wants.

Go figure.

But no I have no interest in your "arguments".

I don't find Abbott sexist. Period.
Liberal Governments have always been better for me. Period.

That is where I sit.

It's not an argument, Mr Hicks.  Abbott said:


Quote:

‘I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons’

Please explain why that is not sexist.

Abbott is sexist and mysoginistic—e.g. the ironing.

He is pretty dumb.

Trained by the Jesuits he uses their “mental reservation” where in his mind he might think “maybe I won’t be able to do it” so he tells what is a lie and he knows is a lie yet uses the stupid sophistry to be able to tell lies every day.

He is, or is under influence of, a neoconservative. He will govern for the 1% and most likely, as the neocons did in America, pretty much bankrupt the country and we will see weird religious crap being taught in our schools.

Nope...  just someone born in the 50s in a traditional family.  :D :D :D