Gregory Andrews has been named as the new commissioner, fulfilling a pledge made by the Coalition at the election.

Andrews, a public servant and former diplomat, will work in a non-statutory, advisory role to oversee the “development, implementation and reporting of threatened species recovery programs”.

While Andrews will have no power to intervene in development decisions, such as mining or logging, which may affect the habitat of native species, he will work with scientists on strategies to reverse the precipitous decline of Australia’s native species.

Australia has one of the worst mammal extinction rates in the world, with an estimated 75 million native animals, such as birds and small marsupials, estimated to die at the claws and teeth of feral cats every day.

These cats, descended from domesticated cats, have become a major killer of animals across Australia, especially in areas of Queensland and the Northern Territory.

more here

www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/02/threatened-species-commissioner-to-combat-decline-of-native-wildlife

You can't hurt the pussy.

Quite interesting to see a greens member defend feral cats.  I suppose bunnies are also a good thing?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2014 at 8:50pm:

Quite interesting to see a greens member defend feral cats.  I suppose bunnies are also a good thing?

How am I supporting?


I find it interesting that the conservatives are happy to destroy the habitat of endangered creatures and at the same time pretend they care about protecting those species they support killing off.

And the con posters can't defend their mob's hypocritical position on endangered species destruction ...

surprise surprise

____ wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 4:26am:

And the con posters can't defend their mob's hypocritical position on endangered species destruction ... surprise surprise

Why didn't the Greens do more prior to the ALP divorcing them? There was plenty of time before the putrid love affair ended for the Greens to use their power for good instead of evil!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 4:50am:

____ wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 4:26am: And the con posters can't defend their mob's hypocritical position on endangered species destruction ... surprise surprise Why didn't the Greens do more prior to the ALP divorcing them? There was plenty of time before the putrid love affair ended for the Greens to use their power for good instead of evil!

This is about the government of the day.

How can abbott mob save endangered species while they destroy their habitat. This is a perfect example of the abbott mob : chaotic, money wasting, and illogical.

____ wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 5:27am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 4:50am: ____ wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 4:26am: And the con posters can't defend their mob's hypocritical position on endangered species destruction ... surprise surprise Why didn't the Greens do more prior to the ALP divorcing them? There was plenty of time before the putrid love affair ended for the Greens to use their power for good instead of evil! This is about the government of the day. How can abbott mob save endangered species while they destroy their habitat. This is a perfect example of the abbott mob : chaotic, money wasting, and illogical.

You just described the ALP to perfection...

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 7:26am:

____ wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 5:27am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 4:50am: ____ wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 4:26am: And the con posters can't defend their mob's hypocritical position on endangered species destruction ... surprise surprise Why didn't the Greens do more prior to the ALP divorcing them? There was plenty of time before the putrid love affair ended for the Greens to use their power for good instead of evil! This is about the government of the day. How can abbott mob save endangered species while they destroy their habitat. This is a perfect example of the abbott mob : chaotic, money wasting, and illogical. You just described the ALP to perfection...

Yet I was describing the abbott mob. Hows it for you to be supporting the abbott pretend labor party?

How much is your mob wasting on baiting kittens so trying and save endangered creatures without their habitat?

http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn458/mx250syd/icons/eek.gif


____ wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2014 at 8:19pm:

Australia has one of the worst mammal extinction rates in the world, with an estimated 75 million native animals, such as birds and small marsupials, estimated to die at the claws and teeth of feral cats every day.

http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn458/mx250syd/icons/laughing6-hehe.gif

removed - personal abuse

Rhet-Oracle wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 7:49am:

You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel now aren't you greenscum. The only "mob" here is the bunch of halfwits like you who really try to mislead others with absolutely ridiculous thread titles. You are an idiot!

The Abbott mob wants to poison kittens while destroying the habitats of endangered creatures ... meanwhile you attack the messenger.

Is that the con's only defence, attack messengers?

Youre a bit of a confused poster greens.

feral animals are just a disaster.
I have deer, pigs, and large groups of dogs.


heres a few pics from my joint

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piggy

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people would be surprised how many feral dog packs are roaming around the country.
few of them are pure bred dingos, bigger dogs, often mastiff/pig dog cross breds

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 8:52am:

Youre a bit of a confused poster greens. feral animals are just a disaster. I have deer, pigs, and large groups of dogs. heres a few pics from my joint

I didn't say human introduced animals are not ... I am saying how can abbott mob try to save endangered creatures while sanctioning the destruction of their habitat.


Seems the cons are scared of arguing their position on this point. Is it because they see how idiotic and chaotic their position is?

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 8:55am:

people would be surprised how many feral dog packs are roaming around the country. few of them are pure bred dingos, bigger dogs, often mastiff/pig dog cross breds

What of cattle in national parks. Should these introduced pests be poisoned too?

Offhand I'd say these clever scientists have never tried to give a cat medication! ;D
They'll happily spit out pills etc, they didn't get to be the vicious pests they are by being stupid!

This is just another ploy by the Canetoad, he remembers the "being seen to be done" bit when it suits him and ignores the actual "doing" bit.

____ wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 9:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:55am: people would be surprised how many feral dog packs are roaming around the country. few of them are pure bred dingos, bigger dogs, often mastiff/pig dog cross breds What of cattle in national parks. Should these introduced pests be poisoned too?

No, I don't support cattle in national parks.
I'm surprised they are caving into the nongs who want to graze the snowy mountains (again).
even my cows move weeds all over the dam paddocks and you need to be on top of the spread of manure born nettles and foreign weeds , even in a crap grass paddock.
God only knows how many feral weeds will be marched through national parks by beef cattle.

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 11:17am:


White hunter, black cat
August 23, 2012


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517XXQFFQZL.jpg




THE cats are back on top of the ladder. No, not the Tom Hawkins variety, but the big wild ones supposedly roaming country Victoria.

They have climbed back up the ladder of government priorities after a mid-season rejection.

That is, the Victorian Government has launched an investigation into whether the mythical big cats exist.

It's an issue that arouses much excitement in country Victoria, with everyone knowing someone who reckons they have seen a big cat.

There have been reported sightings for more than 60 years across the length and breadth of the state, with particular focus on the Grampians and the Gippsland high country.

Legend abounds as to why the big cats -- usually black -- could be out there.

They include the popular theory US servicemen in Australia during World War II had black panthers as mascots of their squadrons. With the war over, they released the panthers before heading home.

(The mind boggles as to how they would have got them here in the first place.)

And then there are tales of cats escaping from zoos, and the most popular theory that domestic cats have developed into super creatures over many generations, killing bigger and bigger wildlife and livestock to survive.

Whatever the origin, there have been enough "sightings" of big cats for Nationals leader Peter Ryan -- then in opposition -- to boldly declare the Coalition would launch an investigation into the existence of the big cats if it won government.

Not quite on the scale of making Victorian teachers the best-paid in the nation, but a promise nonetheless.

Of course, those promises can come back to bite you when you actually win government -- as Ryan and Premier Ted Baillieu know full well.

But, while the teachers' pay promise stole the limelight, the big-cat investigation languished in the bottom draw.

So dead was the big-cat issue, the Government actually declared a month or so ago that the investigation would not go ahead.

But then, bizarrely, Agriculture Minister Peter Walsh has announced the investigation will go ahead.

Bizarrely, because his department has been hit by job cuts and office closures, so you would think this would hardly be a priority.

But Mr Walsh said he had "sufficient departmental resources available" to don the pith helmets and head off on a Burke-and-Wills-type expedition.

Unfortunately, it's not nearly so exciting.

"The study will review existing literature, reports, correspondence and other evidence for the presence of big cats in Victoria, and it includes liaison with relevant community groups and individuals who have reports or records of possible sightings," he told The Weekly Times.

Alas, Peter Ryan won't be leading an expedition into the high country. There'll be no LandCruisers getting bogged, no machetes hacking through thick undergrowth and no tins of baked beans exploding in the campfire.

Just some pen-pushers looking at grainy photos and essays written by (very, very) enthusiastic big-cat experts.

Of course, the Opposition is having kittens (pun intended) over the Government making big cats a priority in a time of austerity and budget cuts.

And you can imagine public servants who have lost their jobs greeting the news in wide-eyed amazement.

As for the investigation, there can only be one definite answer at the end of the inquiry.

It will either be "yes" big cats do exist in country Victoria. Or they don't know.

No amount of research will ever be able to completely discount they are out there.

The moment they do, someone will see another mysterious form run across a road near Jamieson and we'll be back to square one.


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/big-cat-myth-should-stay-a-mystery/story-e6frfhqf-1226456111535

____ wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2014 at 8:19pm:

Gregory Andrews has been named as the new commissioner, fulfilling a pledge made by the Coalition at the election. Andrews, a public servant and former diplomat, will work in a non-statutory, advisory role to oversee the “development, implementation and reporting of threatened species recovery programs”. While Andrews will have no power to intervene in development decisions, such as mining or logging, which may affect the habitat of native species, he will work with scientists on strategies to reverse the precipitous decline of Australia’s native species. Australia has one of the worst mammal extinction rates in the world, with an estimated 75 million native animals, such as birds and small marsupials, estimated to die at the claws and teeth of feral cats every day. These cats, descended from domesticated cats, have become a major killer of animals across Australia, especially in areas of Queensland and the Northern Territory. more here www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/02/threatened-species-commissioner-to-combat-decline-of-native-wildlife

WTF  >:(.

Have you read who Greg Andrews is?.......

https://newmatilda.com/2014/07/02/abc-lateline%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98fake-youth-worker%E2%80%99-wins-plum-abbott-govt-job


WTF. How has this guy held a job of any type let alone a PS job or a job with responsibility of any type. He is obviously a compulsive liar. (Probably why he got the job. Fits right in with the LNP and Greg Hunt - ""I've been a public servant and have been giving frank and fearless advice for over 20 years," he said." :D - will always tell his boss exactly what he wants to hear  ::).)

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 10:33am:

God only knows how many feral weeds will be marched through national parks by beef cattle.

Or birds  ::).

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 8:55am:

people would be surprised how many feral dog packs are roaming around the country.

Yeah, we know,  fuuk all  ;) ;D

OldnCrusty wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 11:24am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:55am: people would be surprised how many feral dog packs are roaming around the country. Yeah, we know,  fuuk all  ;) ;D

you need to head 1 hour west of brisbane.  gangs of farmers out every night protecting stock
you dont see them, they are rat cunning,  do notice calves and foal being gutted though. i dont think its the cats or the rabbits doing it ;) ;)

OldnCrusty wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 11:22am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 10:33am: God only knows how many feral weeds will be marched through national parks by beef cattle. Or birds  ::).

birds spread lantana, some lawyer vine, wild raspberry.

all your cobblers pegs, stingers, cotton vine, spread thru guts of herbivores.

Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

OldnCrusty wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 11:24am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:55am: people would be surprised how many feral dog packs are roaming around the country. Yeah, we know,  fuuk all  ;) ;D you need to head 1 hour west of brisbane.  gangs of farmers out every night protecting stock you dont see them, they are rat cunning,  do notice calves and foal being gutted though. i dont think its the cats or the rabbits doing it ;) ;)

You are talking a very limited and specific area. And should be a fairly easily manageable problem with the right resources - baiting etc.

OldnCrusty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 11:45am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:09am: OldnCrusty wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 11:24am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:55am: people would be surprised how many feral dog packs are roaming around the country. Yeah, we know,  fuuk all  ;) ;D you need to head 1 hour west of brisbane.  gangs of farmers out every night protecting stock you dont see them, they are rat cunning,  do notice calves and foal being gutted though. i dont think its the cats or the rabbits doing it ;) ;) You are talking a very limited and specific area. And should be a fairly easily manageable problem with the right resources - baiting etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB0jNiELlyk

OldnCrusty wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 11:24am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:55am: people would be surprised how many feral dog packs are roaming around the country. Yeah, we know,  fuuk all  ;) ;D

http://www.feral.org.au/wild-dogs-in-australia/

Grendel wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 11:16am:

Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine.

More throwing of your own effluent ... pointless asking for an explanation of the above post since all you do is chase your own tail.


Light weight.

____ wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 12:38pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:16am: Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine. More throwing of your own effluent ... pointless asking for an explanation of the above post since all you do is chase your own tail. Light weight.

The Greens oppose hunting in National parks and state forests, these hunters are only allowed to legally target feral species, the Aborigines are the only people who can legally hunt native species.

If you cannot shoot these feral pests what option does that leave, the Greens are champions of using poison to indiscriminately poison wildlife, poison does not discriminate in what it kills, the animals can take up to 4 days to die with cruel inhumane methods the Greens endorse.

The Greens are quite happy to see feral pests as a protected species in our national parks and state forests, their opposition to hunting is racist as they only speak out about white man hunting and say nothing about Aborigines who are the only people who can legally hunt native species.

The Greens are happy to poison everything, what option is there when they oppose hunting?
www.davidshoebridge.org.au/2013/02/28/national-parks-hunting-on-hold-as-game-council-is-reviewed

As for feral cats, this link shows a fox that was shot while eating a feral cat,warning pic of feral cat in fox mouth-
www.shootingfix.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2070

____ wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 12:38pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:16am: Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine. More throwing of your own effluent ... pointless asking for an explanation of the above post since all you do is chase your own tail. Light weight.

The Greens oppose hunting in National parks and state forests, these hunters are only allowed to legally target feral species, the Aborigines are the only people who can legally hunt native species.

If you cannot shoot these feral pests what option does that leave, the Greens are champions of using poison to indiscriminately poison wildlife, poison does not discriminate in what it kills, the animals can take up to 4 days to die with cruel inhumane methods the Greens endorse.

The Greens are quite happy to see feral pests as a protected species in our national parks and state forests, their opposition to hunting is racist as they only speak out about white man hunting and say nothing about Aborigines who are the only people who can legally hunt native species.

The Greens are happy to poison everything, what option is there when they oppose hunting?
www.davidshoebridge.org.au/2013/02/28/national-parks-hunting-on-hold-as-game-council-is-reviewed

As for feral cats, this link shows a fox that was shot while eating a feral cat,warning pic of feral cat in fox mouth-
www.shootingfix.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2070

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 2:08pm:

____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 12:38pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:16am: Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine. More throwing of your own effluent ... pointless asking for an explanation of the above post since all you do is chase your own tail. Light weight. The Greens oppose hunting in National parks and state forests, these hunters are only allowed to legally target feral species, the Aborigines are the only people who can legally hunt native species. If you cannot shoot these feral pests what option does that leave, the Greens are champions of using poison to indiscriminately poison wildlife, poison does not discriminate in what it kills, the animals can take up to 4 days to die with cruel inhumane methods the Greens endorse. The Greens are quite happy to see feral pests as a protected species in our national parks and state forests, their opposition to hunting is racist as they only speak out about white man hunting and say nothing about Aborigines who are the only people who can legally hunt native species. The Greens are happy to poison everything, what option is there when they oppose hunting? www.davidshoebridge.org.au/2013/02/28/national-parks-hunting-on-hold-as-game-council-is-reviewed As for feral cats, this link shows a fox that was shot while eating a feral cat,warning pic of feral cat in fox mouth- www.shootingfix.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2070

That's nice yet what's the connection to the abbott mob destroying endangered creature's habitat while claiming they support protecting these same creatures from extinction.

OldnCrusty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 11:45am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:09am: OldnCrusty wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 11:24am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:55am: people would be surprised how many feral dog packs are roaming around the country. Yeah, we know,  fuuk all  ;) ;D you need to head 1 hour west of brisbane.  gangs of farmers out every night protecting stock you dont see them, they are rat cunning,  do notice calves and foal being gutted though. i dont think its the cats or the rabbits doing it ;) ;) You are talking a very limited and specific area. And should be a fairly easily manageable problem with the right resources - baiting etc.

LOL, you got no idea huh?

____ wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 2:14pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 2:08pm: ____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 12:38pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:16am: Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine. More throwing of your own effluent ... pointless asking for an explanation of the above post since all you do is chase your own tail. Light weight. The Greens oppose hunting in National parks and state forests, these hunters are only allowed to legally target feral species, the Aborigines are the only people who can legally hunt native species. If you cannot shoot these feral pests what option does that leave, the Greens are champions of using poison to indiscriminately poison wildlife, poison does not discriminate in what it kills, the animals can take up to 4 days to die with cruel inhumane methods the Greens endorse. The Greens are quite happy to see feral pests as a protected species in our national parks and state forests, their opposition to hunting is racist as they only speak out about white man hunting and say nothing about Aborigines who are the only people who can legally hunt native species. The Greens are happy to poison everything, what option is there when they oppose hunting? www.davidshoebridge.org.au/2013/02/28/national-parks-hunting-on-hold-as-game-council-is-reviewed As for feral cats, this link shows a fox that was shot while eating a feral cat,warning pic of feral cat in fox mouth- www.shootingfix.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2070 That's nice yet what's the connection to the abbott mob destroying endangered creature's habitat while claiming they support protecting these same creatures from extinction.

The Liberals allow Primary producers and Professional shooters to have semi automatic rifles, the Greens want to take semi auto rifles away from farmers and professional shooters.

Why do the Greens want to take one of the best tools for dealing with feral pests away from farmers?

King FriYAY II wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 2:20pm:

OldnCrusty wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:45am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:09am: OldnCrusty wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 11:24am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:55am: people would be surprised how many feral dog packs are roaming around the country. Yeah, we know,  fuuk all  ;) ;D you need to head 1 hour west of brisbane.  gangs of farmers out every night protecting stock you dont see them, they are rat cunning,  do notice calves and foal being gutted though. i dont think its the cats or the rabbits doing it ;) ;) You are talking a very limited and specific area. And should be a fairly easily manageable problem with the right resources - baiting etc. LOL, you got no idea huh?

As far as cats, I suggest reduce the number being dumped by licensing ownership.
Yet Libs are the ones in government and are the one's chaotically spending on saving animals while destroying them through their pro habitat destruction.

How about libs promote some grown ups as their leaders.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 2:21pm:

____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 2:14pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 2:08pm: ____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 12:38pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:16am: Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine. More throwing of your own effluent ... pointless asking for an explanation of the above post since all you do is chase your own tail. Light weight. The Greens oppose hunting in National parks and state forests, these hunters are only allowed to legally target feral species, the Aborigines are the only people who can legally hunt native species. If you cannot shoot these feral pests what option does that leave, the Greens are champions of using poison to indiscriminately poison wildlife, poison does not discriminate in what it kills, the animals can take up to 4 days to die with cruel inhumane methods the Greens endorse. The Greens are quite happy to see feral pests as a protected species in our national parks and state forests, their opposition to hunting is racist as they only speak out about white man hunting and say nothing about Aborigines who are the only people who can legally hunt native species. The Greens are happy to poison everything, what option is there when they oppose hunting? www.davidshoebridge.org.au/2013/02/28/national-parks-hunting-on-hold-as-game-council-is-reviewed As for feral cats, this link shows a fox that was shot while eating a feral cat,warning pic of feral cat in fox mouth- www.shootingfix.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2070 That's nice yet what's the connection to the abbott mob destroying endangered creature's habitat while claiming they support protecting these same creatures from extinction. The Liberals allow Primary producers and Professional shooters to have semi automatic rifles, the Greens want to take semi auto rifles away from farmers and professional shooters. Why do the Greens want to take one of the best tools for dealing with feral pests away from farmers?

Brains?

How about decreasing the introduced animals at their source rather than have gun happy people shooting dead tourists in or near to national parks.

Meanwhile back to the topic of the thread, the conservatives attack on endangered creature's habitat. This includes plants. Do gun totting mobs know the differences in the native plants they trample.

____ wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 2:31pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 2:21pm: ____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 2:14pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 2:08pm: ____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 12:38pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:16am: Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine. More throwing of your own effluent ... pointless asking for an explanation of the above post since all you do is chase your own tail. Light weight. The Greens oppose hunting in National parks and state forests, these hunters are only allowed to legally target feral species, the Aborigines are the only people who can legally hunt native species. If you cannot shoot these feral pests what option does that leave, the Greens are champions of using poison to indiscriminately poison wildlife, poison does not discriminate in what it kills, the animals can take up to 4 days to die with cruel inhumane methods the Greens endorse. The Greens are quite happy to see feral pests as a protected species in our national parks and state forests, their opposition to hunting is racist as they only speak out about white man hunting and say nothing about Aborigines who are the only people who can legally hunt native species. The Greens are happy to poison everything, what option is there when they oppose hunting? www.davidshoebridge.org.au/2013/02/28/national-parks-hunting-on-hold-as-game-council-is-reviewed As for feral cats, this link shows a fox that was shot while eating a feral cat,warning pic of feral cat in fox mouth- www.shootingfix.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2070 That's nice yet what's the connection to the abbott mob destroying endangered creature's habitat while claiming they support protecting these same creatures from extinction. The Liberals allow Primary producers and Professional shooters to have semi automatic rifles, the Greens want to take semi auto rifles away from farmers and professional shooters. Why do the Greens want to take one of the best tools for dealing with feral pests away from farmers? Brains? How about decreasing the introduced animals at their source rather than have gun happy people shooting dead tourists in or near to national parks. Meanwhile back to the topic of the thread, the conservatives attack on endangered creature's habitat. This includes plants. Do gun totting mobs know the differences in the native plants they trample

The Greens are guilty of vilification of white hunters,why else would they be fearmongering about tourists getting shot,law abiding firearm owners do not have a criminal record and shooting people is against the law,in fact discharging a firearm in an area that is not zoned rural is against the law unless it is a Police approved firing range.
Hunters must carry GPS so no excuses for not shooting in the right places.

You should look at the pest maps to see how widespread the feral pest problem is in Australia-
www.feral.org.au/pestmaps/

The Greens policies promote indiscriminate poisoning to deal with our feral pest problems,the guidelines for 1080 say carcasses must be picked up and buried or burnt as they are toxic to other critters that might eat them.

____ wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 12:38pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:16am: Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine. More throwing of your own effluent ... pointless asking for an explanation of the above post since all you do is chase your own tail. Light weight.

LOL... got nothin' I see...  just the usual rant.
Everybody else seems to have understood or shared my point.  :D ;D :D

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 5:30pm:

____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 2:31pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 2:21pm: ____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 2:14pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 2:08pm: ____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 12:38pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:16am: Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine. More throwing of your own effluent ... pointless asking for an explanation of the above post since all you do is chase your own tail. Light weight. The Greens oppose hunting in National parks and state forests, these hunters are only allowed to legally target feral species, the Aborigines are the only people who can legally hunt native species. If you cannot shoot these feral pests what option does that leave, the Greens are champions of using poison to indiscriminately poison wildlife, poison does not discriminate in what it kills, the animals can take up to 4 days to die with cruel inhumane methods the Greens endorse. The Greens are quite happy to see feral pests as a protected species in our national parks and state forests, their opposition to hunting is racist as they only speak out about white man hunting and say nothing about Aborigines who are the only people who can legally hunt native species. The Greens are happy to poison everything, what option is there when they oppose hunting? www.davidshoebridge.org.au/2013/02/28/national-parks-hunting-on-hold-as-game-council-is-reviewed As for feral cats, this link shows a fox that was shot while eating a feral cat,warning pic of feral cat in fox mouth- www.shootingfix.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2070 That's nice yet what's the connection to the abbott mob destroying endangered creature's habitat while claiming they support protecting these same creatures from extinction. The Liberals allow Primary producers and Professional shooters to have semi automatic rifles, the Greens want to take semi auto rifles away from farmers and professional shooters. Why do the Greens want to take one of the best tools for dealing with feral pests away from farmers? Brains? How about decreasing the introduced animals at their source rather than have gun happy people shooting dead tourists in or near to national parks. Meanwhile back to the topic of the thread, the conservatives attack on endangered creature's habitat. This includes plants. Do gun totting mobs know the differences in the native plants they trample The Greens are guilty of vilification of white hunters,why else would they be fearmongering about tourists getting shot,law abiding firearm owners do not have a criminal record and shooting people is against the law,in fact discharging a firearm in an area that is not zoned rural is against the law unless it is a Police approved firing range. Hunters must carry GPS so no excuses for not shooting in the right places. You should look at the pest maps to see how widespread the feral pest problem is in Australia- www.feral.org.au/pestmaps/ The Greens policies promote indiscriminate poisoning to deal with our feral pest problems,the guidelines for 1080 say carcasses must be picked up and buried or burnt as they are toxic to other critters that might eat them.

Look over there, look over there ... don't talk on topic.

Once again, how can libs promote themselves as conservationist while they promote the destruction of the habitat of endangered species.







During the recent school holidays a horrified family were confronted by a group of hunters driving into a camping ground in a south east National Park randomly shooting kangaroos. In front of the distressed family camped in the remote but popular National Park they shot a number of kangaroos and loaded some onto a vehicle before driving off, leaving dead and maimed animals behind.

www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2012/08/15/3568593.htm

____ wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 2:31pm:

Brains? How about decreasing the introduced animals at their source rather than have gun happy people shooting dead tourists in or near to national parks.

Lots of feral cats in QLD-
www.feral.org.au/feral-cat-density-2007-queensland

Lots of feral cats in NSW-
www.feral.org.au/feral-cat-density-2007-new-south-wales

These maps are outdated,there are heaps of goats in blue areas that were absent of goats 7 years ago-
www.feral.org.au/feral-goat-density-2007-new-south-wales

Grendel wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 5:40pm:

____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 12:38pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:16am: Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine. More throwing of your own effluent ... pointless asking for an explanation of the above post since all you do is chase your own tail. Light weight. LOL... got nothin' I see...  just the usual rant. Everybody else seems to have understood or shared my point.  :D ;D :D

What point ... all you do is shoot blanks and are to thick to vocalise an argument to back the blanks you fire.

____ wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 5:49pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 5:40pm: ____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 12:38pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:16am: Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine. More throwing of your own effluent ... pointless asking for an explanation of the above post since all you do is chase your own tail. Light weight. LOL... got nothin' I see...  just the usual rant. Everybody else seems to have understood or shared my point.  :D ;D :D What point ... all you do is shoot blanks and are to thick to vocalise an argument to back the blanks you fire.

I'm sorry you don't get it, but you're beyond help in that area it would seem.
I gather you deny or don't understand the same points being made by others then.
Oh and BTW you can google maps of feral animal distribution in Australia for those in denial about it.

____ wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 5:47pm:

During the recent school holidays a horrified family were confronted by a group of hunters driving into a camping ground in a south east National Park randomly shooting kangaroos. In front of the distressed family camped in the remote but popular National Park they shot a number of kangaroos and loaded some onto a vehicle before driving off, leaving dead and maimed animals behind. www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2012/08/15/3568593.htm

They were not hunters they are criminal poachers...

A law abiding firearm owner is not allowed to hunt native species,only Aborigines can hunt native species.

Of course the greens are incapable of differentiating criminals from law abiding firearm owners because they are racist anti gun bigots.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 5:56pm:

____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 5:47pm: During the recent school holidays a horrified family were confronted by a group of hunters driving into a camping ground in a south east National Park randomly shooting kangaroos. In front of the distressed family camped in the remote but popular National Park they shot a number of kangaroos and loaded some onto a vehicle before driving off, leaving dead and maimed animals behind. www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2012/08/15/3568593.htm They were not hunters they are criminal poachers... A law abiding firearm owner is not allowed to hunt native species,only Aborigines can hunt native species. Of course the greens are incapable of differentiating criminals from law abiding firearm owners because they are racist anti gun bigots.

Who where they?

Grendel wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 5:56pm:

____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 5:49pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 5:40pm: ____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 12:38pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:16am: Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine. More throwing of your own effluent ... pointless asking for an explanation of the above post since all you do is chase your own tail. Light weight. LOL... got nothin' I see...  just the usual rant. Everybody else seems to have understood or shared my point.  :D ;D :D What point ... all you do is shoot blanks and are to thick to vocalise an argument to back the blanks you fire. I'm sorry you don't get it, but you're beyond help in that area it would seem. I gather you deny or don't understand the same points being made by others then. Oh and BTW you can google maps of feral animal distribution in Australia for those in denial about it.

Other people.

It was you who made an empty claim ... now questioned on it you run behind the legs of other posters.
You are such a coward.

Of course certain native animals can be culled due to being in plague proportions or over population.

The Greens of course see this as a cruelty also they'd prefer to see thousands of animals starve to death or wreak havoc across the countryside and in productive pasture lands.

____ wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 6:06pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 5:56pm: ____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 5:49pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 5:40pm: ____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 12:38pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:16am: Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine. More throwing of your own effluent ... pointless asking for an explanation of the above post since all you do is chase your own tail. Light weight. LOL... got nothin' I see...  just the usual rant. Everybody else seems to have understood or shared my point.  :D ;D :D What point ... all you do is shoot blanks and are to thick to vocalise an argument to back the blanks you fire. I'm sorry you don't get it, but you're beyond help in that area it would seem. I gather you deny or don't understand the same points being made by others then. Oh and BTW you can google maps of feral animal distribution in Australia for those in denial about it. Other people. It was you who made an empty claim ... now questioned on it you run behind the legs of other posters. You are such a coward.

Do you know what the word THICK means? 
DENSE perhaps?
No?
Go look in a mirror.
Better still get an adult to explain my point and the same point others are making to you.  :D :D :D

Grendel wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 6:09pm:

____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 6:06pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 5:56pm: ____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 5:49pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 5:40pm: ____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 12:38pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:16am: Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine. More throwing of your own effluent ... pointless asking for an explanation of the above post since all you do is chase your own tail. Light weight. LOL... got nothin' I see...  just the usual rant. Everybody else seems to have understood or shared my point.  :D ;D :D What point ... all you do is shoot blanks and are to thick to vocalise an argument to back the blanks you fire. I'm sorry you don't get it, but you're beyond help in that area it would seem. I gather you deny or don't understand the same points being made by others then. Oh and BTW you can google maps of feral animal distribution in Australia for those in denial about it. Other people. It was you who made an empty claim ... now questioned on it you run behind the legs of other posters. You are such a coward. Do you know what the word THICK means?  DENSE perhaps? No? Go look in a mirror. Better still get an adult to explain my point and the same point others are making to you.  :D :D :D

Still void of a rational argument to back up your original stupid post. Are you 8 or lobotomised?

Grendel wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 6:07pm:

Of course certain native animals can be culled due to being in plague proportions or over population. The Greens of course see this as a cruelty also they'd prefer to see thousands of animals starve to death or wreak havoc across the countryside and in productive pasture lands.

Kangaroo harvesters must obtain a commercial Fauna harvesters licence,they have to complete a firearms accreditation course and a meat handling training course.
Their vehicle must be licenced with the NSW food authority to ensure contruction and hygiene standards are met.
The licence fee is fairly high...

A non commercial occupiers licence does not allow you to harvest the meat, the carcass must be tagged and left to rot where it falls,i think farmers should be allowed to use these carcasses for dog food instead of leaving them to rot.

The guidelines for white man commercially harvesting roo meat here-
www.environment.nsw.gov.au/resources/nature/kmp/10160hbkangharvesters.pdf

yep...

Oh and Greenswine do you know how stupid that retort you've been using actually is?
Honestly grow up, people can read you know, and most think a whole lot more clearly than you?

Here's a thought...
Perhaps if you read the post I was replying to you'd better understand my point.  :D :D :D

I doubt it...  but hey, it's worth a try. :D :D :D ::)

____ wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

King FriYAY II wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 2:20pm: OldnCrusty wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:45am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:09am: OldnCrusty wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 11:24am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:55am: people would be surprised how many feral dog packs are roaming around the country. Yeah, we know,  fuuk all  ;) ;D you need to head 1 hour west of brisbane.  gangs of farmers out every night protecting stock you dont see them, they are rat cunning,  do notice calves and foal being gutted though. i dont think its the cats or the rabbits doing it ;) ;) You are talking a very limited and specific area. And should be a fairly easily manageable problem with the right resources - baiting etc. LOL, you got no idea huh? As far as cats, I suggest reduce the number being dumped by licensing ownership. Yet Libs are the ones in government and are the one's chaotically spending on saving animals while destroying them through their pro habitat destruction. How about libs promote some grown ups as their leaders.

interesting thought.
how about SHY come round to my place so I can "parent" her properly.
She is still stuck at the 2 yo temper tantrum stage from what I can see.

____ wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 6:16pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 6:09pm: ____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 6:06pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 5:56pm: ____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 5:49pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 5:40pm: ____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 12:38pm: Grendel wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:16am: Apparently Greenswine's ignorance and hypocrisy knows no bounds...  way to score an own goal Greenswine. More throwing of your own effluent ... pointless asking for an explanation of the above post since all you do is chase your own tail. Light weight. LOL... got nothin' I see...  just the usual rant. Everybody else seems to have understood or shared my point.  :D ;D :D What point ... all you do is shoot blanks and are to thick to vocalise an argument to back the blanks you fire. I'm sorry you don't get it, but you're beyond help in that area it would seem. I gather you deny or don't understand the same points being made by others then. Oh and BTW you can google maps of feral animal distribution in Australia for those in denial about it. Other people. It was you who made an empty claim ... now questioned on it you run behind the legs of other posters. You are such a coward. Do you know what the word THICK means?  DENSE perhaps? No? Go look in a mirror. Better still get an adult to explain my point and the same point others are making to you.  :D :D :D Still void of a rational argument to back up your original stupid post. Are you 8 or lobotomised?

http://i.imgur.com/rz1POa3.png

aquascoot wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:45pm:

____ wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 2:25pm: King FriYAY II wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 2:20pm: OldnCrusty wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:45am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 11:09am: OldnCrusty wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 11:24am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 8:55am: people would be surprised how many feral dog packs are roaming around the country. Yeah, we know,  fuuk all  ;) ;D you need to head 1 hour west of brisbane.  gangs of farmers out every night protecting stock you dont see them, they are rat cunning,  do notice calves and foal being gutted though. i dont think its the cats or the rabbits doing it ;) ;) You are talking a very limited and specific area. And should be a fairly easily manageable problem with the right resources - baiting etc. LOL, you got no idea huh? As far as cats, I suggest reduce the number being dumped by licensing ownership. Yet Libs are the ones in government and are the one's chaotically spending on saving animals while destroying them through their pro habitat destruction. How about libs promote some grown ups as their leaders. interesting thought. how about SHY come round to my place so I can "parent" her properly. She is still stuck at the 2 yo temper tantrum stage from what I can see.

I can imagine you disciplining her... Get to my room you naughty girl! ;D