http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/brisbane-hits-coldest-temperature-in-103-years/story-fnihsrf2-1229686116278?nk=95d5ed31191ee7f504fdf1f4ed9f22be


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If you are lucky enough to be reading this from the comfort of your blankets, it might be best to stay there, as Brisbane has hit its coldest temperatures in 103 years.    Not since July 28 1911 has Brisbane felt this cold, getting down to a brisk 2.6C at 6.41am. At 7am, it inched up to 3.3C. Matt Bass, meteorologist from BOM, said the region was well below our average temperatures. “If it felt cold, that’s because it was, breaking that record is pretty phenomenal for Brisbane,” Bass said. “The average for this time of year is 12C, so Brisbane was about 9C below average, it is pretty impressive really, to have the coldest morning in 103 years is a big record.” The coldest place across the state was Oakey which got down to -6.1C, which was the coldest temperature for the town since 2011. Brisbane wasn’t the only town hitting landmark temperatures with Clermont breaking its coldest record two days in a row. “Clermont in the coal fields got down to -4.5 which is a new record for them, their previous record was -3.7, which was set yesterday, so they’ve re-broken their record two days in a row.” All these cold temperatures are being brought on as cold air moves up from the south, combined with clear nights

How can this be?  The globe is warming so says the scientists? :D

This global warming stuff is just ferocious!!! ;D ;D ;D

I thought you guys were done with these infantile arguments. Seems not.

its an Abbott con you know that... :P

since Al Gore has spoken once again...we all know everything we are doing is causing CLIMATE CHANGE....got nuffink to do with natural cause .. its all scientific you know..

so Al says...



here is “no real scientific proof” that the current warming is caused by the rise of greenhouse gases from man’s activity.

2) Man-made carbon dioxide emissions throughout human history constitute less than 0.00022 percent of the total naturally emitted from the mantle of the earth during geological history.

3) Warmer periods of the Earth’s history came around 800 years before rises in CO2 levels.

4) After World War II, there was a huge surge in recorded CO2 emissions but global temperatures fell for four decades after 1940

It's been below zero here twice this week & zero this morning.

We have had very mild winters for the last decade here on the Fraser Coast.

Definitely global warming  ::)

It's about average global temperatures not freak weather events.

In fact global warming is more likely to cause freak weather events.


forgiven

namaste

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 10:30am:

It's about average global temperatures not freak weather events. In fact global warming is more likely to cause freak weather events. forgiven namaste

now the idiots will be saying it's not that hot in the desert because night time temps drop to below zero  :D :D :D

It's obviously the start of an ice age. After all that theory has a much longer pedigree than global warming . . .oops, sorry, climate change.

Gnads wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 10:24am:

It's been below zero here twice this week & zero this morning. We have had very mild winters for the last decade here on the Fraser Coast. Definitely global warming  ::)

and climate has nothing to do with the weather.. dont cha know anyfink???....get Als video splains everythink ya wanted to know..

it gets warm.. ice melts.... didnt know that did ya?

climate change for dummies....

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 10:09am:

This global warming stuff is just ferocious!!! ;D ;D ;D

If it was just a bit colder, you could say 'frost this morning, therefor no global warming'.

Higher temps = AGW destroying the world

Lower temps = local weather, meh



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It's cold here in Melbourne too. Max of 11 degrees today.

Gee it's almost like it's winter   ;D

Swagman wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 10:08am:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/brisbane-hits-coldest-temperature-in-103-years/story-fnihsrf2-1229686116278?nk=95d5ed31191ee7f504fdf1f4ed9f22be Quote: If you are lucky enough to be reading this from the comfort of your blankets, it might be best to stay there, as Brisbane has hit its coldest temperatures in 103 years.    Not since July 28 1911 has Brisbane felt this cold, getting down to a brisk 2.6C at 6.41am. At 7am, it inched up to 3.3C. Matt Bass, meteorologist from BOM, said the region was well below our average temperatures. “If it felt cold, that’s because it was, breaking that record is pretty phenomenal for Brisbane,” Bass said. “The average for this time of year is 12C, so Brisbane was about 9C below average, it is pretty impressive really, to have the coldest morning in 103 years is a big record.” The coldest place across the state was Oakey which got down to -6.1C, which was the coldest temperature for the town since 2011. Brisbane wasn’t the only town hitting landmark temperatures with Clermont breaking its coldest record two days in a row. “Clermont in the coal fields got down to -4.5 which is a new record for them, their previous record was -3.7, which was set yesterday, so they’ve re-broken their record two days in a row.” All these cold temperatures are being brought on as cold air moves up from the south, combined with clear nights How can this be?  The globe is warming so says the scientists? :D

Bloody cold here - got the neighbour's cat on top of the lounge near the heater and covered in a folded towel for a blanket.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

Higher temps = AGW destroying the world Lower temps = local weather, meh

No, increased thermal energy over decades (that cannot be explained by natural events alone) = AGW.

Local weather events, hot or cold are not indicative per se. Extreme weather events increasing is a prediction of the effect of AGW.

Kytro wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:32am:

No, increased thermal energy over decades (that cannot be explained by natural events alone) = AGW.

So AGWT is a con then?

I always find deniers interesting. IN that if it gets too cold on just one day, oh well global warming is bunk. But if it gets too hot on one day in summer, thats just Aussie weather.

Swagman wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 10:08am:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/brisbane-hits-coldest-temperature-in-103-years/story-fnihsrf2-1229686116278?nk=95d5ed31191ee7f504fdf1f4ed9f22be Quote: If you are lucky enough to be reading this from the comfort of your blankets, it might be best to stay there, as Brisbane has hit its coldest temperatures in 103 years.    Not since July 28 1911 has Brisbane felt this cold, getting down to a brisk 2.6C at 6.41am. At 7am, it inched up to 3.3C. Matt Bass, meteorologist from BOM, said the region was well below our average temperatures. “If it felt cold, that’s because it was, breaking that record is pretty phenomenal for Brisbane,” Bass said. “The average for this time of year is 12C, so Brisbane was about 9C below average, it is pretty impressive really, to have the coldest morning in 103 years is a big record.” The coldest place across the state was Oakey which got down to -6.1C, which was the coldest temperature for the town since 2011. Brisbane wasn’t the only town hitting landmark temperatures with Clermont breaking its coldest record two days in a row. “Clermont in the coal fields got down to -4.5 which is a new record for them, their previous record was -3.7, which was set yesterday, so they’ve re-broken their record two days in a row.” All these cold temperatures are being brought on as cold air moves up from the south, combined with clear nights How can this be?  The globe is warming so says the scientists? :D

Because Temperature is not the 'Heat Content' of a system. Temperature is a local indicator of the 'Heat Content' but like has been mentioned many many many times before the earth is so big and the distribution of land mass so different that even the two hemisphere have different average temperatures!

The two poles of the earth are completely different and thus, whilst some similarities exist between the hemisphere much is different and it is this initial difference that creates even more difference when local topography and sea currents combine with local air currents and what... it's a long story here mate.. should I continue  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Swagman wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

Kytro wrote on Jul 13th, 2014 at 8:32am: No, increased thermal energy over decades (that cannot be explained by natural events alone) = AGW. So AGWT is a con then?

What is AGWT?

Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 10:30am:

It's about average global temperatures not freak weather events. In fact global warming is more likely to cause freak weather events. forgiven namaste

Yes, and no.. the trick is adding it up correctly because 'average temperature' actually is non-sensical! It's just language/'lingo'- and therefore concepts- the average voting consumer understands.

'Heat Content' and whether this value is rising or not is the important thing...the breakdown occurs in that most people don't understand that Temperature is simply an indicator of "The 'Heat Content' of a system".

..this breakdown occurs because of the tricky nature of actually defining 'a system'!!


This gets complicated- and is the reason 'deniers' can drive mack trucks through the interwebs by simply spreading FUD: this is groupthink,.. with all its associated vested interests trying to keep the status quo alive- go life! 

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 11:48am:

Swagman wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:29am: Kytro wrote on Jul 13th, 2014 at 8:32am: No, increased thermal energy over decades (that cannot be explained by natural events alone) = AGW. So AGWT is a con then? What is AGWT?

It's an acronym.

Anthropogenic Global Warming Theory.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

I always find deniers interesting. IN that if it gets too cold on just one day, oh well global warming is bunk. But if it gets too hot on one day in summer, thats just Aussie weather.

...that's a coincidence...

I always find 'Alarmists' interesting. IN that if it gets too hot on just one day, oh well it's global warming and "the sky is falling". But if it gets too cold on one day in Winter, thats just Aussie weather... :D

So in other words both sides are full of poo, and we should let the science decide.


Good, we're agreed.

Swagman wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

Kytro wrote on Jul 13th, 2014 at 8:32am: No, increased thermal energy over decades (that cannot be explained by natural events alone) = AGW. So AGWT is a con then?

Natural being not man made

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 12:45pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:48am: Swagman wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:29am: Kytro wrote on Jul 13th, 2014 at 8:32am: No, increased thermal energy over decades (that cannot be explained by natural events alone) = AGW. So AGWT is a con then? What is AGWT? It's an acronym. Anthropogenic Global Warming Theory.

lol, just add in a 't': gotta love acronyms  :D

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 10:10am:

I thought you guys were done with these infantile arguments. Seems not.

yes... don't you guys know that when the Globe warms up you get colder?  :D :D :D :D :D :D

Swagman wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:33am: I always find deniers interesting. IN that if it gets too cold on just one day, oh well global warming is bunk. But if it gets too hot on one day in summer, thats just Aussie weather. ...that's a coincidence... I always find 'Alarmists' interesting. IN that if it gets too hot on just one day, oh well it's global warming and "the sky is falling". But if it gets too cold on one day in Winter, thats just Aussie weather... :D

don't forget that 400,000 atom bombs going off every day...

run for the hills Henny Penny's...  :D :D :D :D :D

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 6:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 12:45pm: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:48am: Swagman wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:29am: Kytro wrote on Jul 13th, 2014 at 8:32am: No, increased thermal energy over decades (that cannot be explained by natural events alone) = AGW. So AGWT is a con then? What is AGWT? It's an acronym. Anthropogenic Global Warming Theory. lol, just add in a 't': gotta love acronyms  :D

Yes.  It's a theory.  Hence the "T".

Sos evolution

Kytro wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 4:53pm:

Swagman wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:29am: Kytro wrote on Jul 13th, 2014 at 8:32am: No, increased thermal energy over decades (that cannot be explained by natural events alone) = AGW. So AGWT is a con then? Natural being not man made

Man isn't part of nature?    :-/

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:51pm:

Sos evolution

http://api.ning.com/files/AL6Iw1-YHkhxqjMoI1lGePmHXNLMVxF-gTkOepAVv4m3zK0GF4Vr3Pht2QU3f9ozx5WxASD6QN1MJ7X2awi55tfcZY*HWp50/goldstar.gif

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

I always find deniers interesting. IN that if it gets too cold on just one day, oh well global warming is bunk. But if it gets too hot on one day in summer, thats just Aussie weather.

;D ;D ;D
Sorry to laugh. It is just when I read the first line, I wondered what on earth stockings had to do with it (as in 15 denier etc).
Got it on the second pass though, don't worry. ;)

One day of any sort of weather, hot or cold, doesn't prove a thing. It is the longer term trends that matter.

sherri wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 3:51am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:33am: I always find deniers interesting. IN that if it gets too cold on just one day, oh well global warming is bunk. But if it gets too hot on one day in summer, thats just Aussie weather. ;D ;D ;D Sorry to laugh. It is just when I read the first line, I wondered what on earth stockings had to do with it (as in 15 denier etc). Got it on the second pass though, don't worry. ;) One day of any sort of weather, hot or cold, doesn't prove a thing. It is the longer term trends that matter.

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the book im reading is also historical in the fact that it records many droughts throughout his life and that of Australia... we have a drought now and the loopy's go banana's about climate change... but there was severe droughts in the late 1800, early 1900 - 03, umm around 1910 - 11.... 1917 to 20... 1927 to 30... massive floods in 1933 and not just a little drought... a drought that killed 10s of thousands of sheep and cattle... on one of his stations they put 45,000 sheep through the shearing shed... the following year only 6000 due to the drought the last real bad drought in Victoria that I can remember was around the time of Ash Wednesday and was the major cause for such a severe fire... the land was dry and dead... farmers were shooting their stock as they couldn't feed them... then wham... 180 fires across the state of vic and south east SA... 1983

so if you want to compare climate from now to 100 to 120 years ago... our climate now is both cooler and weter...

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:51pm:

Kytro wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 4:53pm: Swagman wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:29am: Kytro wrote on Jul 13th, 2014 at 8:32am: No, increased thermal energy over decades (that cannot be explained by natural events alone) = AGW. So AGWT is a con then? Natural being not man made ..here we go!  8-) 8-) ...it's a circle party.. Man isn't part of nature?    :-/

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:51pm:

Kytro wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 4:53pm: Swagman wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:29am: Kytro wrote on Jul 13th, 2014 at 8:32am: No, increased thermal energy over decades (that cannot be explained by natural events alone) = AGW. So AGWT is a con then? Natural being not man made   :-/

..here we go!  8-) 8-) ...it's a circle party..

Man isn't part of nature? 

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:51pm:

Kytro wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 4:53pm: Swagman wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:29am: Kytro wrote on Jul 13th, 2014 at 8:32am: No, increased thermal energy over decades (that cannot be explained by natural events alone) = AGW. So AGWT is a con then? Natural being not man made Man isn't part of nature?    :-/

Of course we are, but the context the word was used in should have been sufficient to explain the concept.

"existing in nature and not made or caused by people : coming from nature" is one definition, and the one I was alluding to. Let's not argue of semantics here.

sherri wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 3:51am:

I wondered what on earth stockings had to do with it (as in 15 denier etc).

Ha...probably the same as CO2.... ;D

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 11:47am:

Because Temperature is not the 'Heat Content' of a system. Temperature is a local indicator of the 'Heat Content' but like has been mentioned many many many times before the earth is so big and the distribution of land mass so different that even the two hemisphere have different average temperatures! The two poles of the earth are completely different and thus, whilst some similarities exist between the hemisphere much is different and it is this initial difference that creates even more difference when local topography and sea currents combine with local air currents and what... it's a long story here mate.. should I continue  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Another way to explain the situation is to use an extreme example. Say, had the United States launched 100 nuclear missiles into the North Pacific Ocean right now, and detonated the weapons underwater. This would lead to an underwater flash boiling of massive amounts of ocean water, and lead to an area of hot humid air in that part of the world. The thing is, it doesn't affect just that area of the world, it also conflicts with usual weather patterns across the region. When the sun goes down on the region, it's still hot during the night, and it still steams the area. Whilst northern hemisphere regions surrounding bears the brunt of warmer humid weather, the hot air causes cold antarctic air to travel further north and affect areas (generally tropical) of the southern hemisphere that usually doesn't experience cold weather.

An example of this is when the French tested nuclear weapons in 1995 in the Pacific. Several days after the explosions, Australia and New Zealand had weather patterns inconsistent with usual patterns. I believe that the heavier rainfall along the east coast was earlier than predicted. I would surmise that it could have enhanced an early winter in the northern hemisphere.

I know the environmental science behind all this. But the global warming conspiracists seem to think that the earth is in a constant state of warming, when we seem to see a general balance of hot and cold weather systems. Personally, I think we have a joke of a cold snap to say that 2.6 degrees is cold. We have that weather here every year, and even down to freezing in Rockhampton.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

I always find deniers interesting. IN that if it gets too cold on just one day, oh well global warming is bunk. But if it gets too hot on one day in summer, thats just Aussie weather.

I find climate hysterics fascinating. if it is cold it is ACC. If it is hot it is ACC. if it is wet it is ACC, if it is dry it is ACC. If the official figures say temperatures are not rising then they are in fact, still rising.

idiots. fools.  every one of them

The climate is always bloody changing. Like the 70 year old 20 years ago claiming that it was just as hot in his younger days as it is now. He said that the only change is the fact that we are spoiled with air conditioning and cold water on demand. We are just not toughing it out as the people of previous generations were. They still had 44+ degree temperatures, only that they had to endure it without complaint. These days, climate hysterics and their chicken little counterparts are claiming that it's hot because the earth is warming up. Realistically, they are just soft ****s who can't handle getting out of the aircon, and out into the sun.

Did the cold snap kill off any of the cane toads?

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 17^th, 2014 at 3:13pm:

The climate is always bloody changing. Like the 70 year old 20 years ago claiming that it was just as hot in his younger days as it is now. He said that the only change is the fact that we are spoiled with air conditioning and cold water on demand. We are just not toughing it out as the people of previous generations were. They still had 44+ degree temperatures, only that they had to endure it without complaint. These days, climate hysterics and their chicken little counterparts are claiming that it's hot because the earth is warming up. Realistically, they are just soft ****s who can't handle getting out of the aircon, and out into the sun.

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Don't go relying on science when you need it now, ya hear  8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)  :) :)