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Malaysian politicians claim it was offensive and disrespectful to Muslims to use Scottie dogs in Commonwealth Games opening ceremony The Scottie dogs which stole the show at the spectacular Commonwealth Games opening ceremony in Glasgow did not get quite as warm a reception with some Malaysian politicians. The animals which led each team in the parade of athletes at the event in Celtic Park proved a hit on Twitter - but have earned the ire of officials in the Islamic country as dogs are considered unclean by some Muslim scholars. During the parade of athletes, each team was led by a Scots man or woman in tweeds walking a Scottish terrier wearing a jacket bearing the name of the country. 'This is just so disrespectful to Malaysia and Muslims – especially as it happened during Ramadan,' he added, according to the Daily Telegraph. 'Muslims are not allowed to touch dogs, so the organiser should have been more aware and sensitive on this issue. It is hoped this incident can teach other Western countries to be more respectful in the future.' Dato Ibrahim Bin Ali, a far-Right politician, former MP and founder and president of Malay supremacist group Perkasa called the use of the dogs 'shameful' and 'offensive'. A Glasgow 2014 spokesman said there have been no complaints about the dogs from any of the nations taking part. [...] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2708742/Malaysian-politicians-claim-offensive-disrespectful-Muslims-use-Scottie-dogs-Commonwealth-Games-opening-ceremony.html

I share the hurt and outrage of muslims. I am a New Age Muslim as most people know. Let me tell you of an ugly incident that happened just yesterday. My friend, Muhammad, and me were walking to Parramatta railway station when a man walking a dog approached us from the opposite direction. The dog went crazy and started howling. We asked the man what the problem was and he said his dog, also called Muhammad, considered muslims as unclean. He said his dog always reacted that way when he was close to muslims. The dog then had a big chunder and the man and his dog hurried away.

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During the parade of athletes, each team was led by a Scots man or woman in tweeds walking a Scottish terrier wearing a jacket bearing the name of the country. 'This is just so disrespectful to Malaysia and Muslims – especially as it happened during Ramadan,' he added, according to the Daily Telegraph. 'Muslims are not allowed to touch dogs, so the organiser should have been more aware and sensitive on this issue. It is hoped this incident can teach other Western countries to be more respectful in the future.'

Yes, we can all understand how the sensitivities of moslems have been offended !!           :P

I would have thought that it would have been obvious to all, that Scottie dogs are so UN-ISLAMIC!

Why is it that the non-moslems of Western Europe have not been helping to exterminate all Scottie dogs - worldwide - as a concession to moslems and as a demonstration - from non-moslems - that they [non-moslems] are seeking to promote inter-cultural harmony with moslems ???         :P




Coz.....
"[ISLAM] promotes peace and harmony."

:D

Honest!









Mild mannered - Mohammed Morsi -
Ex-President of Egypt

"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND THE DEATH - OF SCOTTIE DOGS - FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg

salad in wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 8:49am:

[quote] 'This is just so disrespectful to Malaysia and Muslims – especially as it happened during Ramadan,' he added, according to the Daily Telegraph.

What? The Muslims are not rioting and suing Scotland for scotty doggy Islamophobia??

But seriously - how nice it would be if Muslims started respecting their hosts cultures? How about that?
Instead of always acting like a bunch of prats, eager to be offended by anything and everything.

Did you notice the background of the guy making the complaint. Yes he was Muslim but he was ultra right wing nationalist. He's looking for any excuse to have a sook.

salad in wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 8:49am:

Quote: Malaysian politicians claim it was offensive and disrespectful to Muslims to use Scottie dogs in Commonwealth Games opening ceremony The Scottie dogs which stole the show at the spectacular Commonwealth Games opening ceremony in Glasgow did not get quite as warm a reception with some Malaysian politicians. The animals which led each team in the parade of athletes at the event in Celtic Park proved a hit on Twitter - but have earned the ire of officials in the Islamic country as dogs are considered unclean by some Muslim scholars. During the parade of athletes, each team was led by a Scots man or woman in tweeds walking a Scottish terrier wearing a jacket bearing the name of the country. 'This is just so disrespectful to Malaysia and Muslims – especially as it happened during Ramadan,' he added, according to the Daily Telegraph. 'Muslims are not allowed to touch dogs, so the organiser should have been more aware and sensitive on this issue. It is hoped this incident can teach other Western countries to be more respectful in the future.' Dato Ibrahim Bin Ali, a far-Right politician, former MP and founder and president of Malay supremacist group Perkasa called the use of the dogs 'shameful' and 'offensive'. A Glasgow 2014 spokesman said there have been no complaints about the dogs from any of the nations taking part. [...] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2708742/Malaysian-politicians-claim-offensive-disrespectful-Muslims-use-Scottie-dogs-Commonwealth-Games-opening-ceremony.html I share the hurt and outrage of muslims. I am a New Age Muslim as most people know. Let me tell you of an ugly incident that happened just yesterday. My friend, Muhammad, and me were walking to Parramatta railway station when a man walking a dog approached us from the opposite direction. The dog went crazy and started howling. We asked the man what the problem was and he said his dog, also called Muhammad, considered muslims as unclean. He said his dog always reacted that way when he was close to muslims. The dog then had a big chunder and the man and his dog hurried away.

Muslims can have dogs as a guard dog or for use in hunting.

wally1 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

salad in wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 8:49am: Quote: Malaysian politicians claim it was offensive and disrespectful to Muslims to use Scottie dogs in Commonwealth Games opening ceremony The Scottie dogs which stole the show at the spectacular Commonwealth Games opening ceremony in Glasgow did not get quite as warm a reception with some Malaysian politicians. The animals which led each team in the parade of athletes at the event in Celtic Park proved a hit on Twitter - but have earned the ire of officials in the Islamic country as dogs are considered unclean by some Muslim scholars. During the parade of athletes, each team was led by a Scots man or woman in tweeds walking a Scottish terrier wearing a jacket bearing the name of the country. 'This is just so disrespectful to Malaysia and Muslims – especially as it happened during Ramadan,' he added, according to the Daily Telegraph. 'Muslims are not allowed to touch dogs, so the organiser should have been more aware and sensitive on this issue. It is hoped this incident can teach other Western countries to be more respectful in the future.' Dato Ibrahim Bin Ali, a far-Right politician, former MP and founder and president of Malay supremacist group Perkasa called the use of the dogs 'shameful' and 'offensive'. A Glasgow 2014 spokesman said there have been no complaints about the dogs from any of the nations taking part. [...] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2708742/Malaysian-politicians-claim-offensive-disrespectful-Muslims-use-Scottie-dogs-Commonwealth-Games-opening-ceremony.html I share the hurt and outrage of muslims. I am a New Age Muslim as most people know. Let me tell you of an ugly incident that happened just yesterday. My friend, Muhammad, and me were walking to Parramatta railway station when a man walking a dog approached us from the opposite direction. The dog went crazy and started howling. We asked the man what the problem was and he said his dog, also called Muhammad, considered muslims as unclean. He said his dog always reacted that way when he was close to muslims. The dog then had a big chunder and the man and his dog hurried away. Muslims can have dogs as a guard dog or for use in hunting.

A blind muslim cannot have a guide dog, guide dogs are haram yet a guard dog or hunting dog is halal.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 10:42am:

wally1 wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:21am: salad in wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 8:49am: Quote: Malaysian politicians claim it was offensive and disrespectful to Muslims to use Scottie dogs in Commonwealth Games opening ceremony The Scottie dogs which stole the show at the spectacular Commonwealth Games opening ceremony in Glasgow did not get quite as warm a reception with some Malaysian politicians. The animals which led each team in the parade of athletes at the event in Celtic Park proved a hit on Twitter - but have earned the ire of officials in the Islamic country as dogs are considered unclean by some Muslim scholars. During the parade of athletes, each team was led by a Scots man or woman in tweeds walking a Scottish terrier wearing a jacket bearing the name of the country. 'This is just so disrespectful to Malaysia and Muslims – especially as it happened during Ramadan,' he added, according to the Daily Telegraph. 'Muslims are not allowed to touch dogs, so the organiser should have been more aware and sensitive on this issue. It is hoped this incident can teach other Western countries to be more respectful in the future.' Dato Ibrahim Bin Ali, a far-Right politician, former MP and founder and president of Malay supremacist group Perkasa called the use of the dogs 'shameful' and 'offensive'. A Glasgow 2014 spokesman said there have been no complaints about the dogs from any of the nations taking part. [...] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2708742/Malaysian-politicians-claim-offensive-disrespectful-Muslims-use-Scottie-dogs-Commonwealth-Games-opening-ceremony.html I share the hurt and outrage of muslims. I am a New Age Muslim as most people know. Let me tell you of an ugly incident that happened just yesterday. My friend, Muhammad, and me were walking to Parramatta railway station when a man walking a dog approached us from the opposite direction. The dog went crazy and started howling. We asked the man what the problem was and he said his dog, also called Muhammad, considered muslims as unclean. He said his dog always reacted that way when he was close to muslims. The dog then had a big chunder and the man and his dog hurried away. Muslims can have dogs as a guard dog or for use in hunting. A blind muslim cannot have a guide dog, guide dogs are haram yet a guard dog or hunting dog is halal.

That is your view but that is false, muslims can have guide dogs.

wally1 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:42am: wally1 wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:21am: salad in wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 8:49am: Quote: Malaysian politicians claim it was offensive and disrespectful to Muslims to use Scottie dogs in Commonwealth Games opening ceremony The Scottie dogs which stole the show at the spectacular Commonwealth Games opening ceremony in Glasgow did not get quite as warm a reception with some Malaysian politicians. The animals which led each team in the parade of athletes at the event in Celtic Park proved a hit on Twitter - but have earned the ire of officials in the Islamic country as dogs are considered unclean by some Muslim scholars. During the parade of athletes, each team was led by a Scots man or woman in tweeds walking a Scottish terrier wearing a jacket bearing the name of the country. 'This is just so disrespectful to Malaysia and Muslims – especially as it happened during Ramadan,' he added, according to the Daily Telegraph. 'Muslims are not allowed to touch dogs, so the organiser should have been more aware and sensitive on this issue. It is hoped this incident can teach other Western countries to be more respectful in the future.' Dato Ibrahim Bin Ali, a far-Right politician, former MP and founder and president of Malay supremacist group Perkasa called the use of the dogs 'shameful' and 'offensive'. A Glasgow 2014 spokesman said there have been no complaints about the dogs from any of the nations taking part. [...] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2708742/Malaysian-politicians-claim-offensive-disrespectful-Muslims-use-Scottie-dogs-Commonwealth-Games-opening-ceremony.html I share the hurt and outrage of muslims. I am a New Age Muslim as most people know. Let me tell you of an ugly incident that happened just yesterday. My friend, Muhammad, and me were walking to Parramatta railway station when a man walking a dog approached us from the opposite direction. The dog went crazy and started howling. We asked the man what the problem was and he said his dog, also called Muhammad, considered muslims as unclean. He said his dog always reacted that way when he was close to muslims. The dog then had a big chunder and the man and his dog hurried away. Muslims can have dogs as a guard dog or for use in hunting. A blind muslim cannot have a guide dog, guide dogs are haram yet a guard dog or hunting dog is halal. That is your view but that is false, muslims can have guide dogs.

Where does it say in the Quran or hadeeth a muslim can have a guide dog, please cite that verse!

Sheik Munajid on dogs in Islam
islamqa.info/en/search?key=dog

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 11:32am:

wally1 wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 11:18am: Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:42am: wally1 wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:21am: salad in wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 8:49am: Quote: Malaysian politicians claim it was offensive and disrespectful to Muslims to use Scottie dogs in Commonwealth Games opening ceremony The Scottie dogs which stole the show at the spectacular Commonwealth Games opening ceremony in Glasgow did not get quite as warm a reception with some Malaysian politicians. The animals which led each team in the parade of athletes at the event in Celtic Park proved a hit on Twitter - but have earned the ire of officials in the Islamic country as dogs are considered unclean by some Muslim scholars. During the parade of athletes, each team was led by a Scots man or woman in tweeds walking a Scottish terrier wearing a jacket bearing the name of the country. 'This is just so disrespectful to Malaysia and Muslims – especially as it happened during Ramadan,' he added, according to the Daily Telegraph. 'Muslims are not allowed to touch dogs, so the organiser should have been more aware and sensitive on this issue. It is hoped this incident can teach other Western countries to be more respectful in the future.' Dato Ibrahim Bin Ali, a far-Right politician, former MP and founder and president of Malay supremacist group Perkasa called the use of the dogs 'shameful' and 'offensive'. A Glasgow 2014 spokesman said there have been no complaints about the dogs from any of the nations taking part. [...] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2708742/Malaysian-politicians-claim-offensive-disrespectful-Muslims-use-Scottie-dogs-Commonwealth-Games-opening-ceremony.html I share the hurt and outrage of muslims. I am a New Age Muslim as most people know. Let me tell you of an ugly incident that happened just yesterday. My friend, Muhammad, and me were walking to Parramatta railway station when a man walking a dog approached us from the opposite direction. The dog went crazy and started howling. We asked the man what the problem was and he said his dog, also called Muhammad, considered muslims as unclean. He said his dog always reacted that way when he was close to muslims. The dog then had a big chunder and the man and his dog hurried away. Muslims can have dogs as a guard dog or for use in hunting. A blind muslim cannot have a guide dog, guide dogs are haram yet a guard dog or hunting dog is halal. That is your view but that is false, muslims can have guide dogs. Where does it say in the Quran or hadeeth a muslim can have a guide dog, please cite that verse! Sheik Munajid on dogs in Islam islamqa.info/en/search?key=dog

The answer is in front of you.

question 803 and question 78353

wally1 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 12:08pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 11:32am: wally1 wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 11:18am: Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:42am: wally1 wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:21am: salad in wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 8:49am: Quote: Malaysian politicians claim it was offensive and disrespectful to Muslims to use Scottie dogs in Commonwealth Games opening ceremony The Scottie dogs which stole the show at the spectacular Commonwealth Games opening ceremony in Glasgow did not get quite as warm a reception with some Malaysian politicians. The animals which led each team in the parade of athletes at the event in Celtic Park proved a hit on Twitter - but have earned the ire of officials in the Islamic country as dogs are considered unclean by some Muslim scholars. During the parade of athletes, each team was led by a Scots man or woman in tweeds walking a Scottish terrier wearing a jacket bearing the name of the country. 'This is just so disrespectful to Malaysia and Muslims – especially as it happened during Ramadan,' he added, according to the Daily Telegraph. 'Muslims are not allowed to touch dogs, so the organiser should have been more aware and sensitive on this issue. It is hoped this incident can teach other Western countries to be more respectful in the future.' Dato Ibrahim Bin Ali, a far-Right politician, former MP and founder and president of Malay supremacist group Perkasa called the use of the dogs 'shameful' and 'offensive'. A Glasgow 2014 spokesman said there have been no complaints about the dogs from any of the nations taking part. [...] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2708742/Malaysian-politicians-claim-offensive-disrespectful-Muslims-use-Scottie-dogs-Commonwealth-Games-opening-ceremony.html I share the hurt and outrage of muslims. I am a New Age Muslim as most people know. Let me tell you of an ugly incident that happened just yesterday. My friend, Muhammad, and me were walking to Parramatta railway station when a man walking a dog approached us from the opposite direction. The dog went crazy and started howling. We asked the man what the problem was and he said his dog, also called Muhammad, considered muslims as unclean. He said his dog always reacted that way when he was close to muslims. The dog then had a big chunder and the man and his dog hurried away. Muslims can have dogs as a guard dog or for use in hunting. A blind muslim cannot have a guide dog, guide dogs are haram yet a guard dog or hunting dog is halal. That is your view but that is false, muslims can have guide dogs. Where does it say in the Quran or hadeeth a muslim can have a guide dog, please cite that verse! Sheik Munajid on dogs in Islam islamqa.info/en/search?key=dog The answer is in front of you. question 803 and question 78353

Sheik munajid clearly says you cannot take the guide dog into a mosque and you must leave it out the front.

Where does it say in the Quran or hadeeth you can have a guide dog,please cite that verse!

Gandalf often likes to hold up Malaysia as an example of a progressive Muslim-majority nation, despite the backwardness of the Muslims there.

It's not like the athletes had to touch the dogs, so I'm not sure what the problem is. Are Muslims not allowed to be anywhere near dogs?

I see the Islamophobes are making a mountain out of a molehill again.


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Islam Main article: Islam and dogs The majority of both Sunni and Shi'a Muslim jurists consider dogs to be ritually unclean.[25] It is uncommon for practising Muslims to have dogs as pets.[26] There are a number of traditions concerning Muhammad's attitude towards dogs. He said that the company of dogs, except as helpers in hunting, herding, and home protection, voided a portion of a Muslim's good deeds.[27] On the other hand, he advocated kindness to dogs and other animals. Another source that supports the kind treatment of dogs in Islam is seen with the narration by Abu Huraira Volume 3, Book 40, Number 551.[28] He narrated that the Prophet said:     "While a man was walking he felt thirsty and went down a well, and drank water from it. On coming out of it, he saw a dog panting and eating mud because of excessive thirst. The man said, 'This (dog) is suffering from the same problem as that of mine.' So, he (went down the well), filled his shoe with water, caught hold of it with his teeth and climbed up and watered the dog. Allah thanked him for his (good) deed and forgave him. The people asked ``O Allah's Apostle! Is there a reward for us in serving (the) animals? He replied: ``Yes, there is a reward for serving any animate (living being).[28] Additionally many Muslim theologians have argued[citation needed] that the dog is not an unclean animal based on the inclusion of a dog among the Seven Sleepers as recorded in the 18th verse of the 18th chapter of the Qur'an,[29] which reads:     Thou wouldst have deemed them awake, whilst they were asleep, and We turned them on their right and on their left sides: their dog stretching forth his two fore-legs on the threshold: if thou hadst come up on to them, thou wouldst have certainly turned back from them in flight, and wouldst certainly have been filled with terror of them.     (Surah Al Kahf, Qur'an: 18)

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogs_in_religion#Islam]

Appears like most religions, mixed messages are given and you can pick and choose which one you want believe.  Typical that the Islamophobes only choose the one that reinforces their criticisms of Islam and Muslims.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 12:50pm:

I see the Islamophobes are making a mountain out of a molehill again. Quote: Islam Main article: Islam and dogs The majority of both Sunni and Shi'a Muslim jurists consider dogs to be ritually unclean.[25] It is uncommon for practising Muslims to have dogs as pets.[26] There are a number of traditions concerning Muhammad's attitude towards dogs. He said that the company of dogs, except as helpers in hunting, herding, and home protection, voided a portion of a Muslim's good deeds.[27] On the other hand, he advocated kindness to dogs and other animals. Another source that supports the kind treatment of dogs in Islam is seen with the narration by Abu Huraira Volume 3, Book 40, Number 551.[28] He narrated that the Prophet said:     "While a man was walking he felt thirsty and went down a well, and drank water from it. On coming out of it, he saw a dog panting and eating mud because of excessive thirst. The man said, 'This (dog) is suffering from the same problem as that of mine.' So, he (went down the well), filled his shoe with water, caught hold of it with his teeth and climbed up and watered the dog. Allah thanked him for his (good) deed and forgave him. The people asked ``O Allah's Apostle! Is there a reward for us in serving (the) animals? He replied: ``Yes, there is a reward for serving any animate (living being).[28] Additionally many Muslim theologians have argued[citation needed] that the dog is not an unclean animal based on the inclusion of a dog among the Seven Sleepers as recorded in the 18th verse of the 18th chapter of the Qur'an,[29] which reads:     Thou wouldst have deemed them awake, whilst they were asleep, and We turned them on their right and on their left sides: their dog stretching forth his two fore-legs on the threshold: if thou hadst come up on to them, thou wouldst have certainly turned back from them in flight, and wouldst certainly have been filled with terror of them.     (Surah Al Kahf, Qur'an: 18) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogs_in_religion#Islam] Appears like most religions, mixed messages are given and you can pick and choose which one you want believe.  Typical that the Islamophobes only choose the one that reinforces their criticisms of Islam and Muslims.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Of course the Islamic apologists will use a sanitised version with  wikipedia instead of reading what the Islamic texts actually say.
:D ;D :D ;D :D ;D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D ::)

Was Mohammad speaking on behalf of a wise all knowing creator or was he making it up as he went along?
www.sunnah.com/search/kill-dog

We've had problems here in Sydney with Muslim taxi drivers not accepting a fare from blind people with guide dogs.

Is it just me that has the vague feeling that Muslim immigration is not entirely to the benefit of this nation?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 1:14pm:

We've had problems here in Sydney with Muslim taxi drivers not accepting a fare from blind people with guide dogs. Is it just me that has the vague feeling that Muslim immigration is not entirely to the benefit of this nation?

Maybe there not taking the blind person not out of disrespect, maybe they just dont want a dog in there taxi.

Imagen the drivers working 12 hour shifts to make $100, and a dog runs or pisses in there taxi, so the driver is left to clean it up and waste his time.

Thats only my view.

My mate is a cabbie driver and he refuses to take drunk people cause there always vomit in his taxi.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 12:12pm:

wally1 wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 12:08pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 11:32am: wally1 wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 11:18am: Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:42am: wally1 wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:21am: salad in wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 8:49am: Quote: Malaysian politicians claim it was offensive and disrespectful to Muslims to use Scottie dogs in Commonwealth Games opening ceremony The Scottie dogs which stole the show at the spectacular Commonwealth Games opening ceremony in Glasgow did not get quite as warm a reception with some Malaysian politicians. The animals which led each team in the parade of athletes at the event in Celtic Park proved a hit on Twitter - but have earned the ire of officials in the Islamic country as dogs are considered unclean by some Muslim scholars. During the parade of athletes, each team was led by a Scots man or woman in tweeds walking a Scottish terrier wearing a jacket bearing the name of the country. 'This is just so disrespectful to Malaysia and Muslims – especially as it happened during Ramadan,' he added, according to the Daily Telegraph. 'Muslims are not allowed to touch dogs, so the organiser should have been more aware and sensitive on this issue. It is hoped this incident can teach other Western countries to be more respectful in the future.' Dato Ibrahim Bin Ali, a far-Right politician, former MP and founder and president of Malay supremacist group Perkasa called the use of the dogs 'shameful' and 'offensive'. A Glasgow 2014 spokesman said there have been no complaints about the dogs from any of the nations taking part. [...] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2708742/Malaysian-politicians-claim-offensive-disrespectful-Muslims-use-Scottie-dogs-Commonwealth-Games-opening-ceremony.html I share the hurt and outrage of muslims. I am a New Age Muslim as most people know. Let me tell you of an ugly incident that happened just yesterday. My friend, Muhammad, and me were walking to Parramatta railway station when a man walking a dog approached us from the opposite direction. The dog went crazy and started howling. We asked the man what the problem was and he said his dog, also called Muhammad, considered muslims as unclean. He said his dog always reacted that way when he was close to muslims. The dog then had a big chunder and the man and his dog hurried away. Muslims can have dogs as a guard dog or for use in hunting. A blind muslim cannot have a guide dog, guide dogs are haram yet a guard dog or hunting dog is halal. That is your view but that is false, muslims can have guide dogs. Where does it say in the Quran or hadeeth a muslim can have a guide dog, please cite that verse! Sheik Munajid on dogs in Islam islamqa.info/en/search?key=dog The answer is in front of you. question 803 and question 78353 Sheik munajid clearly says you cannot take the guide dog into a mosque and you must leave it out the front. Where does it say in the Quran or hadeeth you can have a guide dog,please cite that verse!

You must have poo for brains man, think what you want.

wally1 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 1:22pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 1:14pm: We've had problems here in Sydney with Muslim taxi drivers not accepting a fare from blind people with guide dogs. Is it just me that has the vague feeling that Muslim immigration is not entirely to the benefit of this nation? Maybe there not taking the blind person not out of disrespect, maybe they just dont want a dog in there taxi.

Jesus! I never thought of that.  8-)


wally1 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 1:22pm:

Imagen the drivers working 12 hour shifts to make $100, and a dog runs or pisses in there taxi, so the driver is left to clean it up and waste his time.

Guide dogs are trained not to piss in taxis ...


wally1 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 1:22pm:

Thats only my view.

Thank God for that.


wally1 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 1:22pm:

My mate is a cabbie driver and he refuses to take drunk people cause there always vomit in his taxi.

That's fare enough, Waleed.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

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Fatwa allows Muslim's guide dog inside mosque A blind Muslim student yesterday became the first person to be allowed to take a guide dog into a UK mosque. Mahomed-Abraar Khatri, 18, can now enter his place of worship in Leicester with canine companion Vargo after the Muslim Law (Sharia) Council UK issued a fatwa in response to his request. The Guide Dogs for the Blind Association described the decision as "a massive step forward for other blind and partially-sighted Muslims". Previously, all dogs were banned from mosques because the Islamic faith historically sees them as being for guarding and hunting only. However, the position was softened because guide dogs could be classed in the "working dogs" category. The animals are still barred from entering the prayer hall for the sake of hygiene but are allowed to guide their owners to the area where shoes are placed, the fatwa says. A special rest area has been set up in the entrance of the Bilal Jamia mosque for Vargo while Khatri is praying. Previously, the teenager, who attends the RNIB College in Loughborough, had to be accompanied to the mosque by a sighted helper. His father, Gafar Khatri, said: "Since Mahomed-Abraar has had his guide dog, Vargo, he has regained his independence. Obviously it is early days but his confidence is growing daily." The Guide Dogs for the Blind Association hopes the fatwa will set a precedent, encouraging other blind and partially sighted Muslims to consider owning a guide dog. It is also hoped that mosque leaders in the UK and abroad will follow suit and allow guide dogs inside. After issuing the fatwa, Muhammad Shahid Raza, director of the Imams and Mosques Council UK and secretary of the Muslim Law (Sharia) Council UK, said: "I hope that all existing mosques will follow Bilal mosque in serving the disabled people in a similar way by providing facilities to them. I also believe that, in all new mosques, such facilities for disabled people will be an essential part of their design."

[http://www.theguardian.com/society/2008/sep/25/disability.islam]

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Judaism & Dogs Different Jewish views portray the animals as desired guards or evil demons. Rabbinic attitudes to dogs are somewhat ambiguous. On the one hand, it is permitted and even advisable to have guard dogs where there is danger of attack (a Midrash states that God gave Cain a dog to protect him in his wanderings) but, on the other hand, there are stern warnings against a Jew keeping a vicious dog in his house. The earliest reference to keeping dogs as pets is found in a German work of the 15th century, although, in the apocryphal Book of Tobit, it is said that the hero had a dog. In the Kabbalah the dog is the symbol of the demonic powers. In a remarkable statement in the Zohar, evil in the universe can be compared to a vicious dog on a long lead. The dog seems to enjoy full, independent power to bark and harm but when there is a risk of it getting out of control the owner pulls it back in time. Influenced by the Kabbalah, Hasidic Jews never keep dogs as pets but many Orthodox Jews in Western lands see no objection whatsoever to this. Rabbi Louis Jacobs Rabbi Dr. Louis Jacobs (1920-2006) was a Masorti rabbi, the first leader of Masorti Judaism (also known as Conservative Judaism) in the United Kingdom, and a leading writer and thinker on Judaism.

[http://www.myjewishlearning.com/beliefs/Issues/Nature_and_the_Environment/Traditional_Teachings/Animals/Dogs.shtml]

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 10:07am:

Did you notice the background of the guy making the complaint. Yes he was Muslim but he was ultra right wing nationalist. He's looking for any excuse to have a sook.

Good point.

I'm wondering if there's any non-Australian on a foreign forum out there using some of this site's posts as representative of the 'true' Australian psyche.

So the "ultra right wing" Malaysian nationalists bitch and moan about dogs at the commonwealth games ceremony, while the mainstream Malaysian Muslims want stoning people to death for adultery and the death penalty for apostasy?

Sounds like someone has their spin backwards. Give me the dog bitching over the mainstream Muslims any day.

wally1 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 12:08pm:

The answer is in front of you. question 803 and question 78353

Wally1, before we go granting some form of special licence to morosoph mullahs and impeccant imams to interpret the qur’an we might consult the qur’an and see how it deals with confusion.


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In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful. [2.2] This Book, there is no doubt in it, is a guide to those who guard (against evil).

There is no doubt. The qur’an is the immutable word of the big guy who asked mo to transcribe his every word.

Immutable: unchanging through time; unalterable; ageless:

Somehow muslims seem to think the qur’an is in a state of inchoateness and when doubt arises they run off to the local mullah or imam. That shows that muslims don’t understand their own alleged religion. By all means ask questions of the mullahs and imams but the qur'an is not subject to interpretation. If the muslim community is paying the imams then the imams are earing money under false pretenses.

Muslims don't need dogs because they have women.

freediver wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 7:25pm:

So the "ultra right wing" Malaysian nationalists bitch and moan about dogs at the commonwealth games ceremony, while the mainstream Malaysian Muslims want stoning people to death for adultery and the death penalty for apostasy? Sounds like someone has their spin backwards. Give me the dog bitching over the mainstream Muslims any day.

;D ;D ;D

It's incredible how Muslim apologists will twist themselves into pretzels trying to put a good face on Islam when news services from all over the world have nothing to report except horror stories involving Muslims.

bump

Soren wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 10:04am:

salad in wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 8:49am: [quote] 'This is just so disrespectful to Malaysia and Muslims – especially as it happened during Ramadan,' he added, according to the Daily Telegraph. What? The Muslims are not rioting and suing Scotland for scotty doggy Islamophobia?? But seriously - how nice it would be if Muslims started respecting their hosts cultures? How about that? Instead of always acting like a bunch of prats, eager to be offended by anything and everything.

I agree, dear boy. Wouldn’t it be nice if you Huns did the same? I’ve never met a chap so eager to be offended by anything and everything.

It’s not your fault, of course, we understand that. You’ve never been the same after the accident.

Birth was a very trying experience for you. It aged you immeasurably.

Still, onwards and upwards, eh?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 8:00pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 7:25pm: So the "ultra right wing" Malaysian nationalists bitch and moan about dogs at the commonwealth games ceremony, while the mainstream Malaysian Muslims want stoning people to death for adultery and the death penalty for apostasy? Sounds like someone has their spin backwards. Give me the dog bitching over the mainstream Muslims any day. ;D ;D ;D It's incredible how Muslim apologists will twist themselves into pretzels trying to put a good face on Islam when news services from all over the world have nothing to report except horror stories involving Muslims. ***

Well, the UK Daily Mail to be precise.

These Muslim apologists should do the right thing and blame Islam with the rest of us. What’s wrong with them?

Don’t they read your articles?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 1:14pm:

We've had problems here in Sydney with Muslim taxi drivers not accepting a fare from blind people with guide dogs. Is it just me that has the vague feeling that Muslim immigration is not entirely to the benefit of this nation?

not too sure I would want to get into a taxi driven by a muslim I would imagine the AK 47 under the front seat... plus he could grind to a halt to pray somewhere...would really pizzzzzz me off.

and if its ramadan think of the stomach rumbling...

no thanks....

cods wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 8:20pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 1:14pm: We've had problems here in Sydney with Muslim taxi drivers not accepting a fare from blind people with guide dogs. Is it just me that has the vague feeling that Muslim immigration is not entirely to the benefit of this nation? not too sure I would want to get into a taxi driven by a muslim I would imagine the AK 47 under the front seat... plus he could grind to a halt to pray somewhere...would really pizzzzzz me off. and if its ramadan think of the stomach rumbling... no thanks....

Here’s the voice of reason, old boy. You won’t find poor Cods getting offended about anything and everything.

Herbie yes, poor Cods never.

Except for the possibility of taxi drivers praying, of course, but who wouldn’t dread that?

We blame Islam. Your Muslim is so touchy and intolerant after all.

Fancy complaining about our right to bear arms and pray.

Karnal wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 8:33pm:

cods wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 8:20pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 1:14pm: We've had problems here in Sydney with Muslim taxi drivers not accepting a fare from blind people with guide dogs. Is it just me that has the vague feeling that Muslim immigration is not entirely to the benefit of this nation? not too sure I would want to get into a taxi driven by a muslim I would imagine the AK 47 under the front seat... plus he could grind to a halt to pray somewhere...would really pizzzzzz me off. and if its ramadan think of the stomach rumbling... no thanks.... Here’s the voice of reason, old boy. You won’t find poor Cods getting offended about anything and everything. Herbie yes, poor Cods never. Except for the possibility of taxi drivers praying, of course, but who wouldn’t dread that? We blame Islam. Your Muslim is so touchy and intolerant after all. Fancy complaining about our right to bear arms and pray.

oh god hes off his meds again... you make drah look good kar...

poor kar... thinks he is a comic.. someone tell him... to put it all away... and stop repeat.repeat.repeating himself..its bad manners..

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 7:12pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:07am: Did you notice the background of the guy making the complaint. Yes he was Muslim but he was ultra right wing nationalist. He's looking for any excuse to have a sook. Good point. I'm wondering if there's any non-Australian on a foreign forum out there using some of this site's posts as representative of the 'true' Australian psyche.

You mean Yadda, Moses, Soren, Freediver, Taipan, etc. aren't representative of the true Australian psyche?  They keep telling us they are!   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

|dev|null wrote on Jul 31^st, 2014 at 1:07pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 7:12pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:07am: Did you notice the background of the guy making the complaint. Yes he was Muslim but he was ultra right wing nationalist. He's looking for any excuse to have a sook. Good point. I'm wondering if there's any non-Australian on a foreign forum out there using some of this site's posts as representative of the 'true' Australian psyche. You mean Yadda, Moses, Soren, Freediver, Taipan, etc. aren't representative of the true Australian psyche?  They keep telling us they are!   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Only the foreigners are representative of the true Australian psyche, HB. Herbie, Sprint, Andrei, the old boy - all marvellous envoys of the Australian way of life. True flag-bearers of our noble culture.

The ones who were born here just don't make the grade, I'm afraid. Most of them shouldn't be allowed to comment at all.

No offence, dear.

Are the Malaysian politicians bitching about dogs representative of the Malayisans?

freediver wrote on Aug 1^st, 2014 at 8:34am:

Are the Malaysian politicians bitching about dogs representative of the Malayisans?

Not when we have global champions of Freeedom like yourself, FD.

Whenever I go to Malaysia, I can’t find a meal without pork in it. I have to request - no porkie, no chickie ah.

Perhaps I should specify dog as well.

That's not a kamel, that's freediver's blowfly hoping for a dropping or two.

SweetLambo wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 3:01pm:

That's not a kamel, that's freediver's blowfly hoping for a dropping or two.

This wouldn’t be a Mattywisk/Mahdi, just a new poster looking for a good time.

Welcome, Yasser Crackafat. May you have many opportunities for erections on this good board.

Karnal wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 8:33pm:

Here’s the voice of reason, old boy. You won’t find poor Cods getting offended about anything and everything. Herbie yes, poor Cods never. Except for the possibility of taxi drivers praying, of course, but who wouldn’t dread that? We blame Islam. Your Muslim is so touchy and intolerant after all. Fancy complaining about our right to bear arms and pray.

As-salamu alaykum brothers and sisters. Verily it is as sister Karnal portrays it. I am sick of being blamed for the ills of this world. I am sick of those who look at me with suspicion. I am a proud New Age Muslim and I demand the freedom to follow my alleged religion. Islam has much to offer. There is bloodletting, violence, lapidations aplenty, the subjugation of muliebral Islam (in our alleged religion it is the males who are dominated), heaps of hatred, and the odd dose of beheadings.

Who wouldn't like Islam after all that?

|dev|null wrote on Jul 31^st, 2014 at 1:07pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 7:12pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:07am: Did you notice the background of the guy making the complaint. Yes he was Muslim but he was ultra right wing nationalist. He's looking for any excuse to have a sook. Good point. I'm wondering if there's any non-Australian on a foreign forum out there using some of this site's posts as representative of the 'true' Australian psyche. You mean Yadda, Moses, Soren, Freediver, Taipan, etc. aren't representative of the true Australian psyche?  They keep telling us they are!   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Well, as long as it's not your :D :D ;D ;D :D :D.

Nothing could be further from the Australian psyche than your manic grinning and hyper idiocy.

Soren wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 10:40pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 1:07pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 7:12pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:07am: Did you notice the background of the guy making the complaint. Yes he was Muslim but he was ultra right wing nationalist. He's looking for any excuse to have a sook. Good point. I'm wondering if there's any non-Australian on a foreign forum out there using some of this site's posts as representative of the 'true' Australian psyche. You mean Yadda, Moses, Soren, Freediver, Taipan, etc. aren't representative of the true Australian psyche?  They keep telling us they are!   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D Well, as long as it's not your :D :D ;D ;D :D :D. Nothing could be further from the Australian psyche than your manic grinning and hyper idiocy.

Not closer to the Danish psyche, shurely?

Soren wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 10:40pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 1:07pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 7:12pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:07am: Did you notice the background of the guy making the complaint. Yes he was Muslim but he was ultra right wing nationalist. He's looking for any excuse to have a sook. Good point. I'm wondering if there's any non-Australian on a foreign forum out there using some of this site's posts as representative of the 'true' Australian psyche. You mean Yadda, Moses, Soren, Freediver, Taipan, etc. aren't representative of the true Australian psyche?  They keep telling us they are!   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D Well, as long as it's not your :D :D ;D ;D :D :D. Nothing could be further from the Australian psyche than your manic grinning and hyper idiocy.

Then you are not a true Australian!   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Aug 4^th, 2014 at 12:39pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:40pm: |dev|null wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 1:07pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 7:12pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:07am: Did you notice the background of the guy making the complaint. Yes he was Muslim but he was ultra right wing nationalist. He's looking for any excuse to have a sook. Good point. I'm wondering if there's any non-Australian on a foreign forum out there using some of this site's posts as representative of the 'true' Australian psyche. You mean Yadda, Moses, Soren, Freediver, Taipan, etc. aren't representative of the true Australian psyche?  They keep telling us they are!   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D Well, as long as it's not your :D :D ;D ;D :D :D. Nothing could be further from the Australian psyche than your manic grinning and hyper idiocy. Then you are not a true Australian!   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D

Australian? Good heavens, the old boy hates them.

The old boy’s a Freudian. He’s here in a consultative role. The old boy, you see, is here to diagnose illnesses like manic grinning and hyper-idiocy.

Lucky us, eh?

Karnal wrote on Aug 4^th, 2014 at 7:26pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 12:39pm: Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:40pm: |dev|null wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 1:07pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 7:12pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:07am: Did you notice the background of the guy making the complaint. Yes he was Muslim but he was ultra right wing nationalist. He's looking for any excuse to have a sook. Good point. I'm wondering if there's any non-Australian on a foreign forum out there using some of this site's posts as representative of the 'true' Australian psyche. You mean Yadda, Moses, Soren, Freediver, Taipan, etc. aren't representative of the true Australian psyche?  They keep telling us they are!   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D Well, as long as it's not your :D :D ;D ;D :D :D. Nothing could be further from the Australian psyche than your manic grinning and hyper idiocy. Then you are not a true Australian!   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D Australian? Good heavens, the old boy hates them. The old boy’s a Freudian. He’s here in a consultative role. The old boy, you see, is here to diagnose illnesses like manic grinning and hyper-idiocy. Lucky us, eh?

I don't need diagnosis. I know I suffer from manic grinning and hyper-idiocy.  It is how I cope with people like him!   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Aug 5^th, 2014 at 9:56am:

Karnal wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:26pm: |dev|null wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 12:39pm: Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:40pm: |dev|null wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 1:07pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 7:12pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:07am: Did you notice the background of the guy making the complaint. Yes he was Muslim but he was ultra right wing nationalist. He's looking for any excuse to have a sook. Good point. I'm wondering if there's any non-Australian on a foreign forum out there using some of this site's posts as representative of the 'true' Australian psyche. You mean Yadda, Moses, Soren, Freediver, Taipan, etc. aren't representative of the true Australian psyche?  They keep telling us they are!   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D Well, as long as it's not your :D :D ;D ;D :D :D. Nothing could be further from the Australian psyche than your manic grinning and hyper idiocy. Then you are not a true Australian!   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D Australian? Good heavens, the old boy hates them. The old boy’s a Freudian. He’s here in a consultative role. The old boy, you see, is here to diagnose illnesses like manic grinning and hyper-idiocy. Lucky us, eh? I don't need diagnosis. I know I suffer from manic grinning and hyper-idiocy.  It is how I cope with people like him!   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

Ah yes, but for that you will need treatment.

Old boy, we have a customer here. Do you want to serve him or shall I?

The Muslims at Glasgow objecting to the little Scotty dogs  ... isn't this proof they shouldn't be in the Commonwealth, let alone given citizenship in English-speaking countries?

Speaking of 'ethnic cleansing' ... they have no idea how lucky they are that Western countries are now in the control of feeble, spineless personalities who have prostituted their souls for the 'ethnic vote' ~ anybody's 'ethnic vote'.

Karnal wrote on Aug 5^th, 2014 at 8:42pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 9:56am: Karnal wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:26pm: |dev|null wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 12:39pm: Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:40pm: |dev|null wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 1:07pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 7:12pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:07am: Did you notice the background of the guy making the complaint. Yes he was Muslim but he was ultra right wing nationalist. He's looking for any excuse to have a sook. Good point. I'm wondering if there's any non-Australian on a foreign forum out there using some of this site's posts as representative of the 'true' Australian psyche. You mean Yadda, Moses, Soren, Freediver, Taipan, etc. aren't representative of the true Australian psyche?  They keep telling us they are!   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D Well, as long as it's not your :D :D ;D ;D :D :D. Nothing could be further from the Australian psyche than your manic grinning and hyper idiocy. Then you are not a true Australian!   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D Australian? Good heavens, the old boy hates them. The old boy’s a Freudian. He’s here in a consultative role. The old boy, you see, is here to diagnose illnesses like manic grinning and hyper-idiocy. Lucky us, eh? I don't need diagnosis. I know I suffer from manic grinning and hyper-idiocy.  It is how I cope with people like him!   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D Ah yes, but for that you will need treatment. Old boy, we have a customer here. Do you want to serve him or shall I?

Will it involve restraints? ECT? Whips? Will it be painful?   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

|dev|null wrote on Aug 6^th, 2014 at 10:11am:

Karnal wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 8:42pm: |dev|null wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 9:56am: Karnal wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:26pm: |dev|null wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 12:39pm: Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:40pm: |dev|null wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 1:07pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 7:12pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:07am: Did you notice the background of the guy making the complaint. Yes he was Muslim but he was ultra right wing nationalist. He's looking for any excuse to have a sook. Good point. I'm wondering if there's any non-Australian on a foreign forum out there using some of this site's posts as representative of the 'true' Australian psyche. You mean Yadda, Moses, Soren, Freediver, Taipan, etc. aren't representative of the true Australian psyche?  They keep telling us they are!   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D Well, as long as it's not your :D :D ;D ;D :D :D. Nothing could be further from the Australian psyche than your manic grinning and hyper idiocy. Then you are not a true Australian!   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D Australian? Good heavens, the old boy hates them. The old boy’s a Freudian. He’s here in a consultative role. The old boy, you see, is here to diagnose illnesses like manic grinning and hyper-idiocy. Lucky us, eh? I don't need diagnosis. I know I suffer from manic grinning and hyper-idiocy.  It is how I cope with people like him!   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D Ah yes, but for that you will need treatment. Old boy, we have a customer here. Do you want to serve him or shall I? Will it involve restraints? ECT? Whips? Will it be painful?   :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Oh, I think so, HB. The old boy's preferred mode of administration is The Pump.

It is a jolly world, no?

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 5^th, 2014 at 8:59pm:

The Muslims at Glasgow objecting to the little Scotty dogs  ... isn't this proof they shouldn't be in the Commonwealth, let alone given citizenship in English-speaking countries? Speaking of 'ethnic cleansing' ... they have no idea how lucky they are that Western countries are now in the control of feeble, spineless personalities who have prostituted their souls for the 'ethnic vote' ~ anybody's 'ethnic vote'.

Malaysia is an English-speaking country, Herbie. Scotland, on the other hand...

We Anglos love bacon........

http://s25.postimg.org/l8dwxb1tr/image.jpg

And we're dog lovers to, but we don't eat them........

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 5^th, 2014 at 8:59pm:

The Muslims at Glasgow objecting to the little Scotty dogs  ... isn't this proof they shouldn't be in the Commonwealth, let alone given citizenship in English-speaking countries?

;D Muslims at Glasgow

Poor Herb - I guess those muslim thieves have been doing the rounds at his local library again - otherwise he might have a clue what this story is about.

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Scottie dogs offend islam

I had to check to make sure this is real and it does appear to be correct at this stage or at least the same story has been repeated via a number of outlets.

If true this will rank high in the list of silly complaints for 2014.

As far as I can see from the story no Muslim was required to touch a dog so their was no contravention to their beliefs.

Personally I think the Scotty dog is OK but find the Scotsman in a tweed jacket to be offensive.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 6^th, 2014 at 8:00pm:

Quote: Scottie dogs offend islam I had to check to make sure this is real and it does appear to be correct at this stage or at least the same story has been repeated via a number of outlets. If true this will rank high in the list of silly complaints for 2014. As far as I can see from the story no Muslim was required to touch a dog so their was no contravention to their beliefs. Personally I think the Scotty dog is OK but find the Scotsman in a tweed jacket to be offensive.

Exactly. Unbelievable the Moslems went all the way to Glasgow and were only offended by the dogs. No one has the right to not be offended, eh?

The person interviewed for the article, of course, was not in Glasgow, has probably never been to Glasgow, and was most likely interviewed in front of the TV, Herbie-style. I wonder if the UK Daily Mail interview the same Musel nutter for all their articles.

Next time you need a Christian perspective, interview Y. You’ll get just what you need. If you want the good oil on Freeedom, try FD.

And if you want the wisdom of our respected senior citizens, buy a drink for Herbie and the old boy.

Gud is great, no?

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Scottie dogs offend islam

I was originally going to agree with this topic thinking it was about Scott Morrison.

Everyone buy a dog!!!

King FriYAY II wrote on Aug 7^th, 2014 at 4:00pm:

Everyone buy a dog!!!

How about a nice shortbread?

Miam miam.

|dev|null wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 5:58pm:

Quote: Fatwa allows Muslim's guide dog inside mosque A blind Muslim student yesterday became the first person to be allowed to take a guide dog into a UK mosque. Mahomed-Abraar Khatri, 18, can now enter his place of worship in Leicester with canine companion Vargo after the Muslim Law (Sharia) Council UK issued a fatwa in response to his request. The Guide Dogs for the Blind Association described the decision as "a massive step forward for other blind and partially-sighted Muslims". Previously, all dogs were banned from mosques because the Islamic faith historically sees them as being for guarding and hunting only. However, the position was softened because guide dogs could be classed in the "working dogs" category. The animals are still barred from entering the prayer hall for the sake of hygiene but are allowed to guide their owners to the area where shoes are placed, the fatwa says. A special rest area has been set up in the entrance of the Bilal Jamia mosque for Vargo while Khatri is praying. Previously, the teenager, who attends the RNIB College in Loughborough, had to be accompanied to the mosque by a sighted helper. His father, Gafar Khatri, said: "Since Mahomed-Abraar has had his guide dog, Vargo, he has regained his independence. Obviously it is early days but his confidence is growing daily." The Guide Dogs for the Blind Association hopes the fatwa will set a precedent, encouraging other blind and partially sighted Muslims to consider owning a guide dog. It is also hoped that mosque leaders in the UK and abroad will follow suit and allow guide dogs inside. After issuing the fatwa, Muhammad Shahid Raza, director of the Imams and Mosques Council UK and secretary of the Muslim Law (Sharia) Council UK, said: "I hope that all existing mosques will follow Bilal mosque in serving the disabled people in a similar way by providing facilities to them. I also believe that, in all new mosques, such facilities for disabled people will be an essential part of their design." [http://www.theguardian.com/society/2008/sep/25/disability.islam]

So all you have is one mosque out of how many thousands that issued a fatwa allowing a blind person to use his guide dog?

The dogs are still barred from entering the prayer hall, are there any other groups that demand a blind person be separated from their guide dog or is it just muslims?

We had a few muslims tapping their heads on the ground with their asses in the air while facing Mecca on the beachfront where i live, all it took was a few women wearing bikinis while walking a dog for them to leave and not come back, how easy was that.. :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D


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Narrated Aisha The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. "Prayer is annulled by a dog,a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of praying people) Aisha said- you have made us women dogs! sunnah.com/bukhari/8/158

Prayers will be anullled  if a dog/woman/donkey walks in front of muslims who are praying, if you don't like muslims praying in the street wait till they are nearly finished then get a woman to walk a dog in front of them.
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :)

That’s right, Baron. Gud works in mysterious ways, no?