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Message started by SupositoryofWisdom on Aug 10th, 2014 at 8:24am

Title: Do the national party still exist?
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Aug 10th, 2014 at 8:24am
After Libs played Nationals, like a Banjo, on fuel tax , does anybody know if they're doing everything they can to distance themselves from the sinking ship. Where o where could they be hiding. Been nothing but silence.

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Greens_Win on Aug 10th, 2014 at 8:28am
Who?

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Bam on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:15am
Nationals are just Liberals with hats. They are a lingering irrelevance.

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Swagman on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:31am

____ wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 8:28am:
Who?


That would be the party with 8 more representative seats than the Greens

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Greens_Win on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:41am

Swagman wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:31am:

____ wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 8:28am:
Who?


That would be the party with 8 more representative seats than the Greens



And half the votes of the Greens.

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by George_Orhell on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:49am
Well as the leader of the National party is Deputy Prime Minister, I hardly think the question of its existence could be taken seriously.

Could the OP remind us if the Green Party still exists as a serious political contender, or are they merely a quirky gathering of eccentrics resided over by laughable whingers, deviants, and fools?

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Greens_Win on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:52am

George_Orhell wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:49am:
Well as the leader of the National party is Deputy Prime Minister, I hardly think the question of its existence could be taken seriously.

Could the OP remind us if the Green Party still exists as a serious political contender, or are they merely a quirky gathering of eccentrics resided over by laughable whingers, deviants, and fools?



Crazy old barnaby joyce is dept leader !

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Swagman on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:54am

____ wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:41am:

Swagman wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:31am:

____ wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 8:28am:
Who?


That would be the party with 8 more representative seats than the Greens



And half the votes of the Greens.


Ha yes great point, with only 20 candidates compared to 150 Greenies... ;D



Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Greens_Win on Aug 10th, 2014 at 10:15am

Swagman wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:54am:

____ wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:41am:

Swagman wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:31am:

____ wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 8:28am:
Who?


That would be the party with 8 more representative seats than the Greens



And half the votes of the Greens.


Ha yes great point, with only 20 candidates compared to 150 Greenies... ;D



Great point swagman. The nats have a tiny support base and so struggle for candidates. Because of that, the ones they do con into running are of poor quality.

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by DaS Energy on Aug 10th, 2014 at 10:21am

Its time wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 8:24am:
After Libs played Nationals, like a Banjo, on fuel tax , does anybody know if they're doing everything they can to distance themselves from the sinking ship. Where o where could they be hiding. Been nothing but silence.


Liberals have 63 member in Parliament and the Nationals 10.
Nationals hands up to all the liberals want is a gentlemen's agreement  that the liberals wont decimate them further by standing liberal candidates in national held electorates.

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Swagman on Aug 10th, 2014 at 10:33am

____ wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 10:15am:

Swagman wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:54am:

____ wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:41am:

Swagman wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:31am:

____ wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 8:28am:
Who?


That would be the party with 8 more representative seats than the Greens



And half the votes of the Greens.


Ha yes great point, with only 20 candidates compared to 150 Greenies... ;D



Great point swagman. The nats have a tiny support base and so struggle for candidates. Because of that, the ones they do con into running are of poor quality.


They run candidates where they are relevant not like you eco-socialists that are just irrelevant everywhere

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by fractalign on Aug 10th, 2014 at 11:07am
Speaking as one of the few Australians who don't live in a capital city, I would have too say the Nationals no longer represent me or anyone else in rural Australia. They should be outspoken against foreign ownership, the impact of the 457 of the workforce of rural communities and the ongoing relaxation of all quarantine laws and surprisingly enough they are not. They stopped caring years ago when the Liberal party realised that neither of them could beat Labor and made them join up.
Apparently its better to be the silent voice in government than vocal in opposition.

Unite and conquer, its worked a treat politically but the the Nationals have lost all relevance in the process. Having a Nationals Leader as deputy PM is nothing more than feel good tokenism. The nationals still exist and if they defected which I doubt they could or would do, then the Caolition would be a spent force. So for the sake of party unity the Liberals will throw them a bone occasionally, maybe even let them off the leash when they take them for a walk down to the park but beyond that the Nationals will always know who their master is.

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Greens_Win on Aug 10th, 2014 at 11:11am

Swagman wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 10:33am:

____ wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 10:15am:

Swagman wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:54am:

____ wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:41am:

Swagman wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:31am:

____ wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 8:28am:
Who?


That would be the party with 8 more representative seats than the Greens



And half the votes of the Greens.


Ha yes great point, with only 20 candidates compared to 150 Greenies... ;D



Great point swagman. The nats have a tiny support base and so struggle for candidates. Because of that, the ones they do con into running are of poor quality.


They run candidates where they are relevant not like you eco-socialists that are just irrelevant everywhere



Greens are building towards forming government. gnats are starving off their eventual death.
Chalk and cheese.

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Swagman on Aug 10th, 2014 at 11:23am

____ wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 11:11am:
Greens are building towards forming government


Always good for a laugh you are.... ;D

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Greens_Win on Aug 10th, 2014 at 11:26am

Swagman wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 11:23am:

____ wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 11:11am:
Greens are building towards forming government


Always good for a laugh you are.... ;D



150 fantastic candidates and excellent policies on a sound four pillar base. No wonder the cons are worried.

Meanwhile the nats are selling out regional australia just to keep themselves alive.

Shame gnats. shame.

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by John Smith on Aug 10th, 2014 at 11:29am
Do the national party still exist?

the who? ::) ::)

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Dnarever on Aug 10th, 2014 at 11:39am
Do the national party still exist?

Who cares ?

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Bam on Aug 10th, 2014 at 11:42am

George_Orhell wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:49am:
Well as the leader of the National party is Deputy Prime Minister, I hardly think the question of its existence could be taken seriously.

Except you're wrong. Warren Truss (leader of the Nationals... apparently) isn't even a member of that party. He is actually a member of the Liberal National Party.

The question of its existence can be taken seriously if the leader of the party is not a member of that party.

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Neferti on Aug 10th, 2014 at 12:10pm
The National Party of Australia still exists.

http://www.nationals.org.au/

Warren Truss is a Member of the Liberal National Party of QUEENSLAND because that is where he lives. He is Deputy Prime Minister.

The COALITION is made up of:

The Liberal Party http://www.liberal.org.au/
The Nationals http://www.nationals.org.au/
The Liberal National Party of Queensland http://www.lnp.org.au/
The Country Liberals http://www.countryliberals.org.au/

Hope that helps!

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Swagman on Aug 10th, 2014 at 2:22pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 11:29am:
Do the national party still exist?

the who? ::) ::)


That was a 60s British rock band....

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Grendel on Aug 10th, 2014 at 3:41pm

Its time wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 8:24am:
After Libs played Nationals, like a Banjo, on fuel tax , does anybody know if they're doing everything they can to distance themselves from the sinking ship. Where o where could they be hiding. Been nothing but silence.

Yes and Truss has been doing a good job as has Barnaby Joyce who just this week looked to secure extra market share for our farmers and graziers due to Putin's tantrum.

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by buzzanddidj on Aug 10th, 2014 at 6:35pm
Victorian Libs. and Nats. in Bitter Stoush over Candidate Agreement Breach

June 18, 2014



Victoria’s Deputy Premier Peter Ryan, who has savaged the Liberal Party’s
- decision to mount another three-cornered contest in the new seat of Euroa



THE most senior Victorian Nationals’ MP has savaged the Liberal Party’s decision to mount another three-cornered contest, openly accusing the state administration of breaching the Coalition agreement.

Victorian Deputy Premier Peter Ryan today said the Liberal Party had ignored the facts of the Coalition agreement by running a candidate in the rural state seat of Euroa.

Mr Ryan said the decision was a rerun of the three-cornered contest in the rural federal seat of Mallee, which led to open warfare between the parties.

“Indeed, we have asked the Liberal Party not to stand,’’ he said.

Mr Ryan also said it was a "most unfortunate decision’’ and questioned the need for having an agreement when the Coalition parties were competing against each other.

"The very basis and foundation for having a Coalition agreement is to ensure we don’t see this sort of waste of resources occur,’’ he said.

"We saw this all happen in the recent federal election in the seat of Mallee. And here we go again.’’

His comments are significant because Mr Ryan traditionally falls on the side of playing down any differences between the two parties.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/victorias-deputy-premier-peter-ryan-lashes-liberal-party-over-euroa-seat/story-e6frgczx-1229658554578






Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Redneck on Aug 10th, 2014 at 7:00pm

Grendel wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 3:41pm:
[quote author=SupositoryofWisdom link=1407623048/0#0 date=1407623048]Yes and Truss has been doing a good job as has Barnaby Joyce who just this week looked to secure extra market share for our farmers and graziers due to Putin's tantrum.


Mmm has he actually secured anything or is this wishful thinking as usual!!

LOL smacking idiot!!  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Grendel on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:16pm

Bam wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 11:42am:

George_Orhell wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:49am:
Well as the leader of the National party is Deputy Prime Minister, I hardly think the question of its existence could be taken seriously.

Except you're wrong. Warren Truss (leader of the Nationals... apparently) isn't even a member of that party. He is actually a member of the Liberal National Party.

The question of its existence can be taken seriously if the leader of the party is not a member of that party.

Warren Truss  leader of The Nationals...  check out his website.
They are actually called The Nationals these days have been for years now.


Quote:
The Hon. Warren Truss MP is Deputy Prime Minister of Australia and the Minister for Infrastructure and Regional Development.

He became Leader of the Nationals in 2007 and is the longest serving federal leader of any political party in Australia today.

A third generation farmer from the Kumbia district near Kingaroy in Queensland, Mr Truss first won the federal seat of Wide Bay in 1990.

He was a Minister in the Howard Government for 10 years, serving as Minister for Customs and Consumer Affairs in October 1997, and a year later, Minister for Community Services. In July 1999 Mr Truss became the Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry, where he served for six years. He became Minister for Transport and Regional Services in July 2005 and, in September 2006, was appointed Minister for Trade.

Before entering Parliament, Mr Truss was a Kingaroy Shire Councillor (1976 to 1990), including seven years as Mayor. He was Deputy Chairman of the Queensland Grain Handling Authority and a member of the State Council of the Queensland Graingrowers Association for more than 10 years.

Mr Truss is also former State and National President of the Rural Youth Organisation and President of the Lutheran Youth of Queensland.

At the 2013 federal election, Mr Truss led The Nationals to the Party's best electoral result in 30 years.

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Grendel on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:20pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 7:00pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 3:41pm:
[quote author=SupositoryofWisdom link=1407623048/0#0 date=1407623048]Yes and Truss has been doing a good job as has Barnaby Joyce who just this week looked to secure extra market share for our farmers and graziers due to Putin's tantrum.


Mmm has he actually secured anything or is this wishful thinking as usual!!

LOL smacking idiot!!  ;D ;D ;D

Well gee Pinko, give the guy a few days at least before cracking a fat and exploding all over the place. :D ;D :D
he's doing his job, what are you doing?  Smeg all by the looks. :D :D :D ::)

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Grendel on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:24pm
For those of you like Bam who do not understand the structure of THE NATIONALS...


http://www.nationals.org.au/AboutTheNationals/OurStructure.aspx

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Grendel on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:28pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 6:35pm:
Victorian Libs. and Nats. in Bitter Stoush over Candidate Agreement Breach

June 18, 2014


Victoria’s Deputy Premier Peter Ryan, who has savaged the Liberal Party’s
- decision to mount another three-cornered contest in the new seat of Euroa[/center]



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/victorias-deputy-premier-peter-ryan-lashes-liberal-party-over-euroa-seat/story-e6frgczx-1229658554578
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I think you've gone beyond the point of propriety with that photo buzz...  it is not part of the article link and is highly inappropriate.

Did you even see the movie about joseph merrick?  Have you no respect or compassion for what people with that disease go through.
Is all you think about childish sick prejudiced shyt?

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Aug 10th, 2014 at 10:10pm

Grendel wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:28pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 6:35pm:
Victorian Libs. and Nats. in Bitter Stoush over Candidate Agreement Breach

June 18, 2014


Victoria’s Deputy Premier Peter Ryan, who has savaged the Liberal Party’s
- decision to mount another three-cornered contest in the new seat of Euroa[/center]



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/victorias-deputy-premier-peter-ryan-lashes-liberal-party-over-euroa-seat/story-e6frgczx-1229658554578
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I think you've gone beyond the point of propriety with that photo buzz...  it is not part of the article link and is highly inappropriate.


Are you going to be alright when your beloved LNP are decimated come next election Grendel, or are you still pretending you didn't vote for them because you can see the writing on the wall and want to save face when we rub it in that your team lasted 1 term?

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Grendel on Aug 10th, 2014 at 11:41pm

Its time wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 10:10pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:28pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 10th, 2014 at 6:35pm:
Victorian Libs. and Nats. in Bitter Stoush over Candidate Agreement Breach

June 18, 2014


Victoria’s Deputy Premier Peter Ryan, who has savaged the Liberal Party’s
- decision to mount another three-cornered contest in the new seat of Euroa[/center]



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/victorias-deputy-premier-peter-ryan-lashes-liberal-party-over-euroa-seat/story-e6frgczx-1229658554578
[/size]

I think you've gone beyond the point of propriety with that photo buzz...  it is not part of the article link and is highly inappropriate.


Are you going to be alright when your beloved LNP are decimated come next election Grendel, or are you still pretending you didn't vote for them because you can see the writing on the wall and want to save face when we rub it in that your team lasted 1 term?

Suppository.
I'm not a fan of either major party....  could be why I didn't vote for them.
I'm not an Abbott fan due to his One Nation crap from a few years back and a few other things like how he treated Bernie Banton.
I don't like Brandis, Abetz, Robb, Sinodinos or Cormann, and probably a few more and as I keep saying both parties are very low on talent etc.
You post rubbish.
You get told and still post rubbish.
You lie about anyone and if I know differently I will pick you up on it.
To me you are a mindless biased prog, with absolutely no credibility.

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by DaS Energy on Aug 11th, 2014 at 1:54am

It appears Warren Truss is a member of two separate parties, the nationals and the liberal nationals.

I find it odd that a person can sit in parliament as a representative of two separate political parties.

I not be able to find under the electoral act anything to do with such an event.

This makes I consider a game is being played due to lack of legislation on such things as the same political candidate seeking election as member of two different parties at the same time.

Title: Re: Do the national party still exist?
Post by Grendel on Aug 11th, 2014 at 2:03pm

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