There are a number of them on this BBS paid to spread disinformation and propaganda. I suspect most people recognize who they are. Yadda appears to be the mother of the Hasbara troop on Ozpolitic.

http://deadlinelive.info/2011/07/22/israel-hires-internet-soldiers-to-penetrate-american-forums-chatrooms/

"... File under “cat out of the bag.” “Israel hires Internet soldiers,” Israeli students and demobilized soldiers get paid to pretend they are just regular folks and leave pro-Israel comments online. Israeli Foreign Ministry Deputy Elan Shturman is quoted from the Israeli Occupation Magazine saying:
Quote:
“Our people will not say: ‘Hello, I am from the hasbara department of the Israeli foreign ministry and I want to tell you the following.’ Nor will they necessarily identify themselves as Israelis,” he said. “They will speak as net-surfers and as citizens, and will write responses that will look personal but will be based on a prepared list of messages that the foreign ministry developed.”
Counterpunch’s Jonathan Cooke in “Israel’s Internet Wars” describes:
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a special undercover team of paid workers whose job it will be to surf the internet 24 hours a day spreading positive news about Israel. Internet-savvy Israeli youngsters, mainly recent graduates and demobilised soldiers with language skills, are being recruited to pose as ordinary surfers while they provide the government’s line on the Middle East conflict…About $150,000 has been set aside for the first stage of development, with increased funding expected next year.
Occupation Magazine states in “The Foreign Ministry presents: talkbackers in the service of the State”:
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“paid Internet talkbackers are being mobilized in the service of the State. The Foreign Ministry is in the process of setting up a team of students and demobilized soldiers who will work around the clock writing pro-Israeli responses on Internet websites all over the world,”
The team will fall under the authority of a large department already dealing with what Israelis term “hasbara”, officially translated as “public explanation” but more usually meaning propaganda. That includes not only government public relations work but more secretive dealings the ministry has with a battery of private organisations and initiatives that promote Israel’s image in print, on TV and online.
Quoting Deputy Foreign Minister Shturman, Counterpunch reported:
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“During Operation Cast Lead…We gave them background material and hasbara material, and we sent them to represent the Israeli point of view on news websites and in polls on the internet.”
Operation Cast Lead was the Israeli bombing attack on Gaza which killed 1400 Palestinians, the majority of them civilians, and razed large parts of the Gaza to the ground. Israel maintains that the campaign was in response to an increase in home-made rocket attacks on Israel, which since 2001 have killed 26 Israelis. Gaza remains under blockade, with a enforced shortage of food, medicines, and basic supplies necessary for daily life. (Amnesty International Report: “Operation Cast Lead: 22 Days of Death and Destruction”)
Cooke at Counterpunch also writes that “About 50,000 activists are reported to have downloaded a programme called Megaphone that sends an alert to their computers when an article critical of Israel is published. They are then supposed to bombard the site with comments supporting Israel.”
Deputy Minister Shturman says in Israeli Occupation Magazine:
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Our objective is to penetrate into the world in which these discussions are taking place, where reports and videos are published – the blogs, the social networks, the news websites of all sizes. We will introduce a pro-Israeli voice into those places.
Michal Carmi, a blogger and associate general manager at the high-tech placement company Tripletec, was recruited to the online policy-explanation team. He told Occupation Magazine:
Quote:
“During Operation Cast Lead the Foreign Ministry wrote to me and other bloggers and asked us to make our opinions known on the international stage as well. They sent us pages with ‘taking points’ and a great many video clips. I focussed my energies on Facebook, and here and there I wrote responses on blogs where words like ‘Holocaust’ and ‘murder’ were used in connection with Israel’s Gaza action…Several times the Foreign Ministry also recommended that we access specific blogs and get involved in the discussions that were taking place there.”
A “blog” in this usage could be any kind of online forum.
Canadian author, columnist for the Vancouver Courier, and critic of Israeli government policies Greg Felton writes:
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“If you’ve come across a hasbarat, on-line or otherwise, you have learned that no amount of reasoned argument or intellectual maturity has any effect. That’s because hasbarats don’t care if they come across as ignorant, obnoxious, nasty or inane. All that matters for them is sabotaging criticism of Israel and support for Muslims. They’re like anti-intellectual stink bombs: designed to cause maximum discomfort… “..."

"They’re like anti-intellectual stink bombs: designed to cause maximum discomfort"


What a brilliant description for a sleazy pack of static-brained losers who have nothing more happening in their sorry lives than to anonymously interfere with, and disrupt genuine debate.....



 

BluntObject wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 1:39pm:

"They’re like anti-intellectual stink bombs: designed to cause maximum discomfort" What a brilliant description for a sleazy pack of static-brained losers who have nothing more happening in their sorry lives than to anonymously interfere with, and disrupt genuine debate.....

They are paid for their services. Its easy money for them. Scripts are provided and they just copy and paste from the scripts. In many cases the words they post are identical.

Yadda is the mother hen of the Hasbara platoon on Ozpolitic.

Even I have been accused of being a Mossad stooge.

freediver wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 8:15pm:

Even I have been accused of being a Mossad stooge.

Redeem yourself and confess.

freediver wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 8:15pm:

Even I have been accused of being a Mossad stooge.

It's really kind of sad, in a way. To think that people can be so......damaged is the word I guess, that they believe that anyone who doesn't share their particular worldview must be in the pay of whoever it is that they see as 'the enemy'...

The Moslem will do to the French
what the German did to the Jew.

;)

Jasin wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 12:28am:

The Moslem will do to the French what the German did to the Jew. ;)

Welcome to Mother Yadda's Hasbara platoon. Can you request better quality scripts?

What time is it in Tel Aviv?

This board must be full of Hamas Internet Soldiers then ::)

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 10:36am:

There are a number of them on this BBS paid to spread disinformation and propaganda. I suspect most people recognize who they are. Yadda appears to be the mother of the Hasbara troop on Ozpolitic. http://deadlinelive.info/2011/07/22/israel-hires-internet-soldiers-to-penetrate-american-forums-chatrooms/ "... File under “cat out of the bag.” “Israel hires Internet soldiers,” Israeli students and demobilized soldiers get paid to pretend they are just regular folks and leave pro-Israel comments online. Israeli Foreign Ministry Deputy Elan Shturman is quoted from the Israeli Occupation Magazine saying:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 1:46pm:

BluntObject wrote on Aug 11th, 2014 at 1:39pm: "They’re like anti-intellectual stink bombs: designed to cause maximum discomfort" What a brilliant description for a sleazy pack of static-brained losers who have nothing more happening in their sorry lives than to anonymously interfere with, and disrupt genuine debate..... They are paid for their services. Its easy money for them. Scripts are provided and they just copy and paste from the scripts. In many cases the words they post are identical. Yadda is the mother hen of the Hasbara platoon on Ozpolitic.

LOL


Yes, i am pro-Israel.

God bless Israel!!




Laugh_till_you_cry,

I'm flattered that you would accredit me with such a function/position.

And would you please contact Mossad for me,          and tell Mossad that all of their cheques and direct deposits, seem to have gone astray.

And Laugh_till_you_cry!!!!!!!!, tell Mossad, that i'm 'going on strike' from this Friday,           unless i receive the inducements that they promised me, forthwith!!!!                    ;D              :D








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Isaiah 40:1
Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.
2  Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins.
3  The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.


Psalms 37:28
For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
29  The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
30  The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.
31  The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.
32  The wicked watcheth the righteous, and seeketh to slay him.
33  The LORD will not leave him in his hand, nor condemn him when he is judged.
34  Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it.


Psalms 146:5
Happy is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the LORD his God:
.....
10  The LORD shall reign for ever, even thy God, O Zion, unto all generations. Praise ye the LORD.


Jeremiah 23:7
Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
8  But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.




The Jewish people, ....they are a people tested and found wanting, but the Jewish people remain a people blessed by their God.


Isaiah 41:8-14
But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend...

Isaiah 43:1-7
But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine...

Isaiah 44:1-8
Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen:
Thus saith the LORD that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen...

Isaiah 54:4
Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.
5  For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
6  For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.
7  For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.
8  In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.



Read 'the Song of Moses'.

Deuteronomy 31:14 - Deuteronomy 32:47

Yadda wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 8:11am:

The Jewish people, ....they are a people tested and found wanting, but the Jewish people remain a people blessed by their God.

Their God isn't going to be much help to them when ISIS or ISIL or whatever you choose to call them, grows so large it envelops Israel.

mantra wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 8:15am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:11am: The Jewish people, ....they are a people tested and found wanting, but the Jewish people remain a people blessed by their God. Their God isn't going to be much help to them when ISIS or ISIL or whatever you choose to call them, grows so large it envelops Israel.

Of course. It will be a chance for these Muslim nutters to demonstrate once and for all how eye popping zealotry overcomes a modern war machine.

But you'll have to wait a bit longer. For the moment they are prioritising slaughtering all the hypocrits among themselves. They even issued a press release clarifying this, in case other Muslims thought destroying Israel was more important. I'm sure they'll get round to destroying Israel soon enough.

mantra wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 8:15am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:11am: The Jewish people, ....they are a people tested and found wanting, but the Jewish people remain a people blessed by their God. Their God isn't going to be much help to them when ISIS or ISIL or whatever you choose to call them, grows so large it envelops Israel.

mantra,

You and yours have a different 'vision'.

ISIS is dust,        ....and we all are.

It is our choices, that 'make us' what we are, and what we will be.

"All we have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to us."
Gandalf - FOTR


Matthew 6:33
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness;...


"For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence."

Indifference to injustice is the gateway to hell.




But go your own way.

Walk your own path.

But the wicked will eventually meet their spirit father [their creator], and they will be asked to explain to him, why they chose to do foolish and evil things, in the time that was gifted to them [here].



mantra,

There is a spirit-ual war going on, for the souls of men.

And it is we, who do the choosing,           .....the darkness, or, the light.







Ezekiel 35:5
Because thou hast had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed the blood of the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of their calamity, in the time that their iniquity had an end:
6  Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will prepare thee unto blood, and blood shall pursue thee: sith thou hast not hated blood, even blood shall pursue thee.


Ezekiel 35:10
Because thou hast said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the LORD was there:
11  Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will even do according to thine anger, and according to thine envy which thou hast used out of thy hatred against them; and I will make myself known among them, when I have judged thee.
12  And thou shalt know that I am the LORD, and that I have heard all thy blasphemies which thou hast spoken against the mountains of Israel, saying, They are laid desolate, they are given us to consume.
13  Thus with your mouth ye have boasted against me, and have multiplied your words against me: I have heard them.
14  Thus saith the Lord GOD; When the whole earth rejoiceth, I will make thee desolate.
15  As thou didst rejoice at the inheritance of the house of Israel, because it was desolate, so will I do unto thee: thou shalt be desolate, O mount Seir, and all Idumea, even all of it: and they shall know that I am the LORD.


Psalms 83:4
They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
5  For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
6  The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
7  Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8  Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

mantra wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 8:15am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:11am: The Jewish people, ....they are a people tested and found wanting, but the Jewish people remain a people blessed by their God. Their God isn't going to be much help to them when ISIS or ISIL or whatever you choose to call them, grows so large it envelops Israel.

ISIS is dust,        ....and we all are.




Isaiah 54:15
Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.
16  Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
17  No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

freediver wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 8:44am:

For the moment they are prioritising slaughtering all the hypocrits among themselves. They even issued a press release clarifying this, in case other Muslims thought destroying Israel was more important. I'm sure they'll get round to destroying Israel soon enough.

Let them fight their own civil battles. They are a long way away from us. Our interference only exacerbates these monsters. Do we give a stuff about the atrocities occurring in Africa?


Yadda wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 8:46am:

mantra, There is a spirit-ual war going on, for the souls of men. And it is we, who do the choosing,           .....the darkness, or, the light.

Whatever God you believe in, He creates a lot of problems for humanity. Just because you think your God is right - doesn't make you any better than those who think otherwise. Religions have a set of moral rules which are rarely followed and usually deviated from. Do you think the Catholic paedophile priest is superior because he doesn't kill his victim but only tortures them?

mantra wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 8:57am:

freediver wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:44am: For the moment they are prioritising slaughtering all the hypocrits among themselves. They even issued a press release clarifying this, in case other Muslims thought destroying Israel was more important. I'm sure they'll get round to destroying Israel soon enough. Let them fight their own civil battles. They are a long way away from us. Our interference only exacerbates these monsters. Do we give a stuff about the atrocities occurring in Africa? Yadda wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:46am: mantra, There is a spirit-ual war going on, for the souls of men. And it is we, who do the choosing,           .....the darkness, or, the light. Whatever God you believe in, He creates a lot of problems for humanity. Just because you think your God is right - doesn't make you any better than those who think otherwise. Religions have a set of moral rules which are rarely followed and usually deviated from. Do you think the Catholic paedophile priest is superior because he doesn't kill his victim but only tortures them?

So it doesn't matter what people do to others, as long as it's not in your backyard???

So why all the venom about the Israel/Gaza situation? After all, they're a long way away from us.

What is the time in Tel Aviv? Hasbara time!

The Hasbara platoon has gathered its forces and under the command of mother Yaddda and thrust forward.

Their work is going to be long and hard. The UN has nominated a war crimes commission.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/08/11/mideast-gaza-un-inquiry-idINKBN0GB1R820140811

"... (Reuters) - The United Nations on Monday named experts to an international commission of inquiry into possible human rights violations and war crimes committed by both sides during Israel's military offensive in the Gaza Strip. (Full Story)

Israel, however, dismissed the inquiry as a U.N. Human Rights Council "kangaroo court".

William Schabas, a Canadian professor of international law, will head the panel whose other members are Doudou Diene, a Senegalese veteran U.N. human rights expert.

A U.N. statement said Amal Alamuddin, a British-Lebanese lawyer engaged to be married to Hollywood actor George Clooney would take part though Alamuddin later denied she would participate in the inquiry.

"I am honored to have received the offer, but given existing commitments - including eight ongoing cases - unfortunately could not accept this role," she said in a statement.

It was not clear who would replace Alamuddin on the panel.

The U.N. statement said the independent team will investigate "all violations of international humanitarian law and international human rights law ... in the context of the military operations conducted since 13 June 2014."

A month of war, marked by Israeli air strikes on Gaza and rockets fired by Hamas militants into Israel, has killed 1,938 Palestinians and 67 Israelis while devastating wide tracts of densely populated Gaza.

The panel is to report by March 2015 to the U.N. Human Rights Council. Israel has long accused the 47-member state forum of bias against it.

Navi Pillay, the top U.N. human rights official, said on July 31 she believed Israel was deliberately defying international law in its military offensive in Gaza and that world powers should hold it accountable for possible war crimes. (Full Story)

Israel has attacked homes, schools, hospitals, Gaza's only power plant and U.N. premises in apparent violation of the Geneva Conventions, said Pillay, a former U.N. war crimes judge.

Hamas militants in Gaza have violated international humanitarian law by firing rockets indiscriminately into Israel, Pillay said.

Israeli and Palestinian negotiators resumed indirect talks mediated by Egypt on Monday on ending the war, Egypt's state news agency said, after a new 72-hour truce appeared to be holding. (Full Story)

In a statement, Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor issued a statement dismissing the inquiry. He cited Israel's view that "the Human Rights Council had long ago turned into the 'terrorist rights council' and a kangaroo court, whose 'investigations' are pre-determined."

Hamas Spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri in Gaza said "Hamas welcomes the decision to form an investigation committee into the war crimes committed by the occupation (Israel) against Gaza and it urges that it begin work as soon as possible."

Israel is still angry about a U.N. inquiry on the December 2008-January 2009 Israeli war against Gaza, headed by South African jurist Richard Goldstone. That report said both Israel and Hamas appeared to have committed war crimes, though it was tougher on Israel.

Israel and Washington said that report was distorted and biased against Israel..."

;D ;D ;D

Who the bugger cares.... ::)

I bet they all get on the forums at smoko time.

:P

I care.

Google;
All nations will turn against Israel


IMAGE....
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The land of Israel...

Deuteronomy 11:12
....the eyes of the LORD thy God are always upon it....








Yadda said.....

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Surrounding moslem nations have been assailing Israel - since 1948. Today, Israel exists, is strong, and is thriving. ....... ....... In contrast with Israel,          every moslem nation in the region is in disarray and is being rent apart with internal - moslem - conflicts. Why so ? Aren't the moslems, the people who are blessed by Allah, their god - ...as a reward to moslems, for their righteousness, FOR BEING MOSLEMS ? ISRAEL.... Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee.... Genesis 27:29 ....cursed be every one that curseth thee, and blessed be he that blesseth thee. Numbers 24:9 ....Blessed is he that blesseth thee, and cursed is he that curseth thee. Moslems have been deceived          ...by their own jealousy and self-pride. And moslems have been cursed, BY GOD - because of their wicked enmity towards their brothers, Israel. ISLAM is a false religion. Mohammed is a false [self-serving] prophet. Moslems are slaves,         to a false and wicked spirit. Galatians 4:22  For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23  But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 24  Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 25  For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26  But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. 27  For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. 28  Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 29  But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. 30  Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. 31  So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free. The blessing [of God], is with the children of Isaac [and Jacob - ISRAEL]. Genesis 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac. 11  And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son. 12  And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called. ....Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: Exodus 4:22

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"Abdullah my brother, the Jews have take our land, and we are a homeless people.
WAIL! WAIL! WAIL!

Those dastardly Zionists!!

We want our land back."
/sarc off

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 10:36am:

mantra wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:57am: Let them fight their own civil battles. They are a long way away from us. Our interference only exacerbates these monsters. Do we give a stuff about the atrocities occurring in Africa? Yadda wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:46am: mantra, There is a spirit-ual war going on, for the souls of men. And it is we, who do the choosing,           .....the darkness, or, the light. Whatever God you believe in, He creates a lot of problems for humanity. Just because you think your God is right - doesn't make you any better than those who think otherwise. Religions have a set of moral rules which are rarely followed and usually deviated from. Do you think the Catholic paedophile priest is superior because he doesn't kill his victim but only tortures them? So it doesn't matter what people do to others, as long as it's not in your backyard??? So why all the venom about the Israel/Gaza situation? After all, they're a long way away from us.

In regard to venom - speak for yourself. We shouldn't be interfering, but we are. The US and UK are continually supplying more sophisticated weapons to Israel and unless it's to make the eradication of Palestine easier - why encourage them? 

mantra wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 11:46am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 10:36am: mantra wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:57am: Let them fight their own civil battles. They are a long way away from us. Our interference only exacerbates these monsters. Do we give a stuff about the atrocities occurring in Africa? Yadda wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:46am: mantra, There is a spirit-ual war going on, for the souls of men. And it is we, who do the choosing,           .....the darkness, or, the light. Whatever God you believe in, He creates a lot of problems for humanity. Just because you think your God is right - doesn't make you any better than those who think otherwise. Religions have a set of moral rules which are rarely followed and usually deviated from. Do you think the Catholic paedophile priest is superior because he doesn't kill his victim but only tortures them? So it doesn't matter what people do to others, as long as it's not in your backyard??? So why all the venom about the Israel/Gaza situation? After all, they're a long way away from us. In regard to venom - speak for yourself. We shouldn't be interfering, but we are. The US and UK are continually supplying more sophisticated weapons to Israel and unless it's to make their eradication of Palestine easier - why encourage them?

I'm not the one who doesn't care what happens to people at long distances. I'm quite ok with any intervention necessary to protect the victims.

mantra wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 11:46am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 10:36am: mantra wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:57am: Let them fight their own civil battles. They are a long way away from us. Our interference only exacerbates these monsters. Do we give a stuff about the atrocities occurring in Africa? Yadda wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:46am: mantra, There is a spirit-ual war going on, for the souls of men. And it is we, who do the choosing,           .....the darkness, or, the light. Whatever God you believe in, He creates a lot of problems for humanity. Just because you think your God is right - doesn't make you any better than those who think otherwise. Religions have a set of moral rules which are rarely followed and usually deviated from. Do you think the Catholic paedophile priest is superior because he doesn't kill his victim but only tortures them? So it doesn't matter what people do to others, as long as it's not in your backyard??? So why all the venom about the Israel/Gaza situation? After all, they're a long way away from us. In regard to venom - speak for yourself. We shouldn't be interfering, but we are. The US and UK are continually supplying more sophisticated weapons to Israel and unless it's to make the eradication of Palestine easier - why encourage them?

How long would Israel last if it didn't have these weapons???

mantra wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 11:46am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 10:36am: mantra wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:57am: Let them fight their own civil battles. They are a long way away from us. Our interference only exacerbates these monsters. Do we give a stuff about the atrocities occurring in Africa? Yadda wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:46am: mantra, There is a spirit-ual war going on, for the souls of men. And it is we, who do the choosing,           .....the darkness, or, the light. Whatever God you believe in, He creates a lot of problems for humanity. Just because you think your God is right - doesn't make you any better than those who think otherwise. Religions have a set of moral rules which are rarely followed and usually deviated from. Do you think the Catholic paedophile priest is superior because he doesn't kill his victim but only tortures them? So it doesn't matter what people do to others, as long as it's not in your backyard??? So why all the venom about the Israel/Gaza situation? After all, they're a long way away from us. In regard to venom - speak for yourself. We shouldn't be interfering, but we are. The US and UK are continually supplying more sophisticated weapons to Israel and unless it's to make the eradication of Palestine easier - why encourage them?

who is supplying Hamas mantra??...

you seem to avoid mentioning the other side.. as if they are just sitting ducks..

I dont approve and I am sure many others do not of supplying any form of arms to anyone... and I guess that goes for us as well??>..

cant remember the last war ship or plane we built but it kind of leaves us with egg on our face...

if America stopped dealing in arms... do you think Russia would follow suit?

Shakey wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

How long would Israel last if it didn't have these weapons???

How long will Palestine last fighting for their freedom on such an unlevel playing field?

Shakey wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

mantra wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:46am: gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 10:36am: mantra wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:57am: Let them fight their own civil battles. They are a long way away from us. Our interference only exacerbates these monsters. Do we give a stuff about the atrocities occurring in Africa? Yadda wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:46am: mantra, There is a spirit-ual war going on, for the souls of men. And it is we, who do the choosing,           .....the darkness, or, the light. Whatever God you believe in, He creates a lot of problems for humanity. Just because you think your God is right - doesn't make you any better than those who think otherwise. Religions have a set of moral rules which are rarely followed and usually deviated from. Do you think the Catholic paedophile priest is superior because he doesn't kill his victim but only tortures them? So it doesn't matter what people do to others, as long as it's not in your backyard??? So why all the venom about the Israel/Gaza situation? After all, they're a long way away from us. In regard to venom - speak for yourself. We shouldn't be interfering, but we are. The US and UK are continually supplying more sophisticated weapons to Israel and unless it's to make the eradication of Palestine easier - why encourage them?  How long would Israel last if it didn't have these weapons???

that would be fine if Israel was obliterated.

as far as some are concerned.. Israel is the problem.. if  it goes away so will Hamas Islam ISIS the works..all gone... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

and we all live happily ever after.

mantra wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 11:52am:

Shakey wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:49am: How long would Israel last if it didn't have these weapons??? How long will Palestine last fighting for their freedom on such an unlevel playing field?

So the muslims don't want the Jews pushed into the sea? They both hate each other in equal measure as far as I can see.

Shakey wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 11:55am:

They both hate each other in equal measure as far as I can see.

That is obvious - so leave them to it. Our interference seems to exacerbate the hatred.


cods wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 11:55am:

that would be fine if Israel was obliterated. as far as some are concerned.. Israel is the problem.. if  it goes away so will Hamas Islam ISIS the works..all gone...     and we all live happily ever after.

That will never happen because the Jews are too influential and Israel is the perceived homeland of their mothers. They also have their fingers firmly in the pie which we call the global economy.

They have allowed themselves to be plonked down in the middle of Arab territory - so they should deal with it or get out, but they will do neither. They will demand they are protected forever. These days most western nations would offer them refuge, but they don't want that. They would rather stay where they are and bend the will of their enemies instead. It's not going to happen though - so we have two stubborn religions battling for territory.

mantra wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

Shakey wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:55am: They both hate each other in equal measure as far as I can see. That is obvious - so leave them to it. Our interference seems to exacerbate the hatred. cods wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:55am: that would be fine if Israel was obliterated. as far as some are concerned.. Israel is the problem.. if  it goes away so will Hamas Islam ISIS the works..all gone...     and we all live happily ever after. That will never happen because the Jews are too influential and Israel is the perceived homeland of their mothers. They also have their fingers firmly in the pie which we call the global economy. They have allowed themselves to be plonked down in the middle of Arab territory - so they should deal with it or get out, but they will do neither. They will demand they are protected forever. These days most western nations would offer them refuge, but they don't want that. They would rather stay where they are and bend the will of their enemies instead. It's not going to happen though - so we have two stubborn religions battling for territory.

The muslims are buying weapons as well. The only difference is that the  jews are buying better ones.

mantra wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

Shakey wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:55am: They both hate each other in equal measure as far as I can see. That is obvious - so leave them to it. Our interference seems to exacerbate the hatred. cods wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:55am: that would be fine if Israel was obliterated. as far as some are concerned.. Israel is the problem.. if  it goes away so will Hamas Islam ISIS the works..all gone...     and we all live happily ever after. That will never happen because the Jews are too influential and Israel is the perceived homeland of their mothers. They also have their fingers firmly in the pie which we call the global economy. They have allowed themselves to be plonked down in the middle of Arab territory - so they should deal with it or get out, but they will do neither. They will demand they are protected forever. These days most western nations would offer them refuge, but they don't want that. They would rather stay where they are and bend the will of their enemies instead. It's not going to happen though - so we have two stubborn religions battling for territory.

Well they didn't 'allow themselves' that's where the Jewish people WANTED to go back to. And they are dealing with it, so they don't have to get out.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 12:22pm:

mantra wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 12:09pm: Shakey wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:55am: They both hate each other in equal measure as far as I can see. That is obvious - so leave them to it. Our interference seems to exacerbate the hatred. cods wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:55am: that would be fine if Israel was obliterated. as far as some are concerned.. Israel is the problem.. if  it goes away so will Hamas Islam ISIS the works..all gone...     and we all live happily ever after. That will never happen because the Jews are too influential and Israel is the perceived homeland of their mothers. They also have their fingers firmly in the pie which we call the global economy. They have allowed themselves to be plonked down in the middle of Arab territory - so they should deal with it or get out, but they will do neither. They will demand they are protected forever. These days most western nations would offer them refuge, but they don't want that. They would rather stay where they are and bend the will of their enemies instead. It's not going to happen though - so we have two stubborn religions battling for territory. Well they didn't 'allow themselves' that's where the Jewish people WANTED to go back to. And they are dealing with it, so they don't have to get out.

Is that chaos theory?

Mother Yadda will be upset with you for playing with your food.

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Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 1:36pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 12:22pm: mantra wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 12:09pm: Shakey wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:55am: They both hate each other in equal measure as far as I can see. That is obvious - so leave them to it. Our interference seems to exacerbate the hatred. cods wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:55am: that would be fine if Israel was obliterated. as far as some are concerned.. Israel is the problem.. if  it goes away so will Hamas Islam ISIS the works..all gone...     and we all live happily ever after. That will never happen because the Jews are too influential and Israel is the perceived homeland of their mothers. They also have their fingers firmly in the pie which we call the global economy. They have allowed themselves to be plonked down in the middle of Arab territory - so they should deal with it or get out, but they will do neither. They will demand they are protected forever. These days most western nations would offer them refuge, but they don't want that. They would rather stay where they are and bend the will of their enemies instead. It's not going to happen though - so we have two stubborn religions battling for territory. Well they didn't 'allow themselves' that's where the Jewish people WANTED to go back to. And they are dealing with it, so they don't have to get out. Is that chaos theory? Mother Yadda will be upset with you for playing with your food.

Is what 'chaos theory'??

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 12:22am:

freediver wrote on Aug 11th, 2014 at 8:15pm: Even I have been accused of being a Mossad stooge. It's really kind of sad, in a way. To think that people can be so......damaged is the word I guess, that they believe that anyone who doesn't share their particular worldview must be in the pay of whoever it is that they see as 'the enemy'...

its part of the conspiracy theory mindset that has to blame personal failure or rejection on some over-arching conspiracy that eliminates them from being at fault.

pitiful, really.

mantra wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 8:15am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 8:11am: The Jewish people, ....they are a people tested and found wanting, but the Jewish people remain a people blessed by their God. Their God isn't going to be much help to them when ISIS or ISIL or whatever you choose to call them, grows so large it envelops Israel.

and you don't think Israel would think twice about annihilating them before that happened?  they are nuclear-armed, remember plus they have the unmatched record of never losing a war while never actually starting one.

Shakey wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 12:19pm:

mantra wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 12:09pm: Shakey wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:55am: They both hate each other in equal measure as far as I can see. That is obvious - so leave them to it. Our interference seems to exacerbate the hatred. cods wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:55am: that would be fine if Israel was obliterated. as far as some are concerned.. Israel is the problem.. if  it goes away so will Hamas Islam ISIS the works..all gone...     and we all live happily ever after. That will never happen because the Jews are too influential and Israel is the perceived homeland of their mothers. They also have their fingers firmly in the pie which we call the global economy. They have allowed themselves to be plonked down in the middle of Arab territory - so they should deal with it or get out, but they will do neither. They will demand they are protected forever. These days most western nations would offer them refuge, but they don't want that. They would rather stay where they are and bend the will of their enemies instead. It's not going to happen though - so we have two stubborn religions battling for territory. The muslims are buying weapons as well. The only difference is that the  jews are buying better ones.

and know how to use them.  they are disciplined, motivated and skilful while the arab soldier is undisciplined, poorly motivated and generally poorly trained.

no wonder they keep losing.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 12:22pm:

mantra wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 12:09pm: Shakey wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:55am: They both hate each other in equal measure as far as I can see. That is obvious - so leave them to it. Our interference seems to exacerbate the hatred. cods wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:55am: that would be fine if Israel was obliterated. as far as some are concerned.. Israel is the problem.. if  it goes away so will Hamas Islam ISIS the works..all gone...     and we all live happily ever after. That will never happen because the Jews are too influential and Israel is the perceived homeland of their mothers. They also have their fingers firmly in the pie which we call the global economy. They have allowed themselves to be plonked down in the middle of Arab territory - so they should deal with it or get out, but they will do neither. They will demand they are protected forever. These days most western nations would offer them refuge, but they don't want that. They would rather stay where they are and bend the will of their enemies instead. It's not going to happen though - so we have two stubborn religions battling for territory. Well they didn't 'allow themselves' that's where the Jewish people WANTED to go back to. And they are dealing with it, so they don't have to get out.

from a historical perspective, it IS their land. and the Palestinian problem largely exists because the arab nations around wont take them in.

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 2:27pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 12:22pm: mantra wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 12:09pm: Shakey wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:55am: They both hate each other in equal measure as far as I can see. That is obvious - so leave them to it. Our interference seems to exacerbate the hatred. cods wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:55am: that would be fine if Israel was obliterated. as far as some are concerned.. Israel is the problem.. if  it goes away so will Hamas Islam ISIS the works..all gone...     and we all live happily ever after. That will never happen because the Jews are too influential and Israel is the perceived homeland of their mothers. They also have their fingers firmly in the pie which we call the global economy. They have allowed themselves to be plonked down in the middle of Arab territory - so they should deal with it or get out, but they will do neither. They will demand they are protected forever. These days most western nations would offer them refuge, but they don't want that. They would rather stay where they are and bend the will of their enemies instead. It's not going to happen though - so we have two stubborn religions battling for territory. Well they didn't 'allow themselves' that's where the Jewish people WANTED to go back to. And they are dealing with it, so they don't have to get out. from a historical perspective, it IS their land. and the Palestinian problem largely exists because the arab nations around wont take them in.

What would be your reaction if a stranger chased you off your land with guns and explosives.