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Title: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Lord Herbert on Aug 15th, 2014 at 9:06am
"In 2005 Sharrouf was charged, along with eight other Sydney men, over the biggest terrorism plot in Australian history.
He was charged with possessing items to be used for a terrorist act – six clocks and 140 batteries he stole from a Big W store". But then, incredibly, and beyond all human understanding, this monster is released back onto the streets by a judiciary that is stiff with sob-sisters of both genders. "His symptoms were quite severe, he was quite delusional. "He was overheard talking to other people when no-one was there. This was observed on quite a few occasions and it was a state of mind that persisted for some time. "He was unfit to plead and that means in legal terms that he was simply incapable of understand what the court case would be about." What utter nonsense. He was coached to put on this performance by his legal counsel. It was a no-brainer. It was an obvious ploy, and one that was easy to pretend to. "Justice Whealy thinks nothing has changed. "Sharrouf now says, of course, that he tricked everybody, but I don't believe that for a minute," he said. "He was a very ill man and I believe he still is." What a naive halfwit. link If he was judged to be a 'chronic schizophrenic' with delusional psychopathy then why were his three young boys allowed to be in his care? |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Yadda on Aug 15th, 2014 at 9:33am
- What a naive halfwit. -
No argument. Dumb. Australians, are dumb, and naive. We Australians have been taught [for decades!] from childhood, that to try to discriminate between good and evil, is a social crime. The social engineers, and 'humanists', have done 'their work' well. Today, 'discrimination' is a dirty word. |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Brian Ross on Aug 15th, 2014 at 8:12pm
Yadda do you perceive sufferers of mental illness as "evil"? ::)
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Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Yadda on Aug 15th, 2014 at 10:27pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 15th, 2014 at 8:12pm:
I'll 'bite', Brian_Ross. :) Yadda do you perceive sufferers of mental illness as "evil"? We all make choices. Our choices lead us to 'destinations' [and of course, to consequences]. Witness in recent days, the examples of Harriet Wran, and Robin Williams. Brian Ross, If we choose to tolerate evil, are we evil ? Yadda said.... Quote:
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Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Brian Ross on Aug 15th, 2014 at 10:32pm Yadda wrote on Aug 15th, 2014 at 10:27pm:
Bite, indeed you did, Yadda. Problem is you did not answer the question. ::) Care to take another stab at it? Do you perceive mental illness sufferers as "evil"? Simple question. Simple answer. Yes or no. You don't have to explain yourself (yet), just answer the question. |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Yadda on Aug 15th, 2014 at 10:54pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 15th, 2014 at 10:32pm:
Your just trying to play me. Brian_Ross, Evil ? "And what is good, Phaedrus? And what is not good? Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?" Plato found in, Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance Brian_Ross, Should those who are diagnosed as having a 'mental illness' be separated from the broader community ? e.g. Does a person like myself have a mental illness, IYO, and for the safety of society should a person like myself, be separated/removed from - and prevented from communicating with - the broader community ? :D |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Brian Ross on Aug 15th, 2014 at 11:29pm Yadda wrote on Aug 15th, 2014 at 10:54pm:
Do you need playing? ::) Why is it so hard for you to answer a simple question, simply? ::) |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by wally1 on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:40am Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 15th, 2014 at 9:06am:
If it was a performance then why didnt the other suspects plead insanity? He was diagnosed with a mental illness even before he got arrested on terrorism charges. |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Shakey on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:55am
If this piece of crap was schizophrenic he wouldn't be able to fight with the jihadists. I doubt he would be able to get medication over there and if schizophrenics don't take their meds they revert back to psychosis . He couldn't stockpile medication because schizophrenic medication is handed out script to script.
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Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Lord Herbert on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:57am wally1 wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:40am:
Because that would have been too obvious. That would have blown his chances of being believed. wally1 wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:40am:
link please. |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Lord Herbert on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:58am Shakey wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:55am:
Very good point. I think you've nailed it. |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Brian Ross on Aug 16th, 2014 at 9:40am Shakey wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:55am:
Unfortunately, there is a long history of those who were likely to be schizophrenic who have managed to fight and lead wars. Forgotten Joan of Arc? She portrayed many of the classic symptoms but was considered "touched by god"... ::) |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Shakey on Aug 16th, 2014 at 10:17am Brian Ross wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 9:40am:
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Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by wally1 on Aug 16th, 2014 at 12:56pm Shakey wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:55am:
Do you think the middle east have no pharmacies?There are pharmacies everywhere in the middle east. |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by wally1 on Aug 16th, 2014 at 12:58pm Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:57am:
Herbert, this is from the court documents, he saw multiple psychiatrists before his arrest. There are reports from both Dr Olav Nielssen and Dr Bruce Westmore. Each of these gentlemen is a well-qualified and experienced psychiatrist. The reports of Dr Nielssen are dated 22 September 2005, 20 November 2007 and 12 February 2008. 13 In his first report, Dr Nielssen stated: “Mr Sharrouf is a 21 year (old) disability pensioner with three young children. He was subjected to physical abuse by his father and was affected by his father's desertion of the family during his early teenage years. He reported that his early performance at school was normal. There was a history of conduct disorder in adolescence and he did not return to school after being expelled in year 9. There was a history of substance abuse in adolescence that may have contributed to the onset of mental illness. He reported some employment as a labourer, but none since the onset of mental illness three years ago. Diagnosis of schizophrenia is made on the basis of the histories of typical symptoms of the illness, Mr Sharrouf 's presentation at interview and the reports of his treating psychiatrist. He appears to have a fairly disabling form of the illness, in that it has resulted in significant impairment in his intellectual performance confirmed in psychological testing performed last year. Control of symptoms may have varied, depending on the dose of antipsychotic medication. Mr Sharrouf may also have developed epilepsy on the basis of the confirmed history of seizures in the last six months. Epileptic seizures are associated with exacerbations of symptoms of psychotic illness, particularly in the period after a seizure.” 14 Dr Nielssen recommended a treatment plan that would include continued close supervision. He suggested that the patient might need a higher dose of Olanzapine than 10 mgs per day. 15 Dr Nielssen saw the accused at his rooms shortly prior to his arrest in November 2005. He also spoke to the accused by AVL to Burwood Court in early March 2006. He then interviewed the accused on 16 November 2007 and provided a report dated 20 November 2007. For the purpose of this report, Dr Nielssen examined the Crown case statement and a summary of the overt acts provided by the Crown. 16 Dr Nielssen took a further history from the accused which revealed hallucinations and paranoid events particularly related to his experience in custody. The conclusion stated in the report was as follows: “On the basis of the symptoms reported by Mr Sharrouf and his presentation during the recent interview, I believe he is experiencing an acute exacerbation of his chronic mental illness. The further episode of illness is a direct consequence of ceasing treatment with antipsychotic medication some months ago. Mr Sharrouf reported hallucination of tastes, smells and visions that are often associated with temporal lobe epilepsy. There was a history of treatment in hospital after what were thought to be epileptic seizures... Mr Sharrouf is currently unfit for trial. The acute exacerbation of psychotic illness has resulted in gross impairment in all areas of intellectual function, in addition to the persecutory beliefs arising from the hallucinations. He would be unable to follow the proceedings or provide reliable instructions in what would clearly be a complex trial.” 17 Dr Nielssen recommended that the accused should be transferred to Long Bay Hospital for further investigation and intensive treatment with antipsychotic medication. He thought that, if the accused were to resume treatment, he should recover sufficiently to be considered fit for trial within three months. 18 The final report of Dr Nielssen was prepared following a further interview he had with the accused on 8 February 2008. Dr Nielssen said: “On the basis of the symptoms reported during the interview in November and alluded to by Mr Sharrouf during the recent interview, and his presentation during those interviews, I believe he is experiencing an acute exacerbation of the chronic mental illness schizophrenia...the further acute episode of illness was thought to be due to ceasing treatment with antipsychotic medication in the second half of 2007 and treatment with a relatively low dose of antipsychotic medication since his transfer to the MRRC... Mr Sharrouf remains unfit for trial, as he has gross impairment of all areas of intellectual function that would prevent him from following the proceedings, or providing reliable instructions in what would be a very complex matter.” |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Lord Herbert on Aug 16th, 2014 at 1:41pm wally1 wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 12:58pm:
What utter nonsense. Most of Sydney's Muslims who end up in court on various charges are reported by the media to be on Disability Support Pensions. wally1 wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 12:58pm:
More apologist nonsense. I didn't see my father after the age of 9 ... and was still being caned at school when I was 17. It didn't put me on the DSP or turn me into a decapitating terrorist. wally1 wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 12:58pm:
In other words he was a typical ratbag Muslim Sydney youth who ran with 'the wrong crowd' and was 'known to the police' ~ like so many others like him. wally1 wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 12:58pm:
;D ;D ;D 'mental illness' ~ my arse! Let's re-phrase that, shall we? "He reported some employment as a labourer, but none since he was introduced to retirement on the DSP three years ago". ~ again, like so many others of them. wally1 wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 12:58pm:
Is this idiot of a psychiatrist kidding? He sat there with pen-and-paper and took notes from this malingerer as speaking the gospel truth about himself? He sucked it all in like blotting paper and then made his recommendations to the court based on what this miscreant had told him? Mein Gott! The psychiatric profession has always been pathetically feeble but I didn't think it had sunk this low. Nice try Waleed, but no box of dates this time. |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by wally1 on Aug 16th, 2014 at 1:48pm Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 1:41pm:
I wouldnt expect you to understand cause you lack brain cells. |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Karnal on Aug 16th, 2014 at 3:36pm Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 1:41pm:
Commonwealth Medical Officer, referring psychiatrist, treating psychiatrist and 2 court-appointed psychiatrists: 0. Herbie: 1. Suck it up, leftards. |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Aussie on Aug 16th, 2014 at 3:51pm
Credit when/where due Karnal........Mr Mitty 5, All the Rest 0.
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Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Aussie on Aug 16th, 2014 at 3:53pm
One decent point has been made which is...........how/why was this petty loony/crim. allowed to continue to 'parent' his children?
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Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Karnal on Aug 16th, 2014 at 4:06pm Aussie wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 3:53pm:
Psychiatrists don’t remove children, Aussie. There has to be a report to Family Services, and then a magistrate has to make a ruling on care orders. And we know what Herbie thinks of magistrates. My guess is the children’s mother and their grandparents looked after the kids. Plenty of criminal and mentally ill people have children, and very few are placed into the care of the state |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Brian Ross on Aug 16th, 2014 at 4:54pm wally1 wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 1:48pm:
Oh, no, Wally, Herbie doesn't lack brains. Indeed, as I have always maintained, Herbie is full of "intelligence and low native cunning". Herbie just prefers to use his brains malevolently, thats all. ;) |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Aussie on Aug 16th, 2014 at 5:21pm Karnal wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 4:06pm:
If he was found to be too looney to plead, surely he did not have the kids in his care.. But.....how did the loser manage to get at least one of them on the plane to Syria? Mr Mitty has much to answer for here. |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Lord Herbert on Aug 16th, 2014 at 6:13pm Aussie wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 3:51pm:
Aussie's coming to my wedding when I've found the Perfect Woman ... (ie. cash-up and crazy for a toy-boy and knows where my G-Spot is). |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Yadda on Aug 16th, 2014 at 7:26pm wally1 wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 12:56pm:
........coz all moslems need to be regularly medicated. ;) |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Karnal on Aug 16th, 2014 at 7:59pm
Y’s on fire tonight, ladies and gents.
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Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Karnal on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:02pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 4:54pm:
True, but the Muslims have stolen all the library books - how is Herbie expected to expand his brain power? Maybe he can take up crosswords. |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Shakey on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:04pm Yadda wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 7:26pm:
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Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by wally1 on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:07pm Yadda wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 7:26pm:
1% of the western population is schizophrenic, 10% depression, stats dont differ in arab countries. I guess you a wrong. Is that why your mental cause you dont take your meds? |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Shakey on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:26pm wally1 wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 12:56pm:
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Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Yadda on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:48pm Shakey wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:04pm:
You mustn't say that though, ....coz you'll give moslems a victimisation complex if you make it widely known that inbreeding with close relatives is 'dementing' large sections of the moslem community. People will start to point at them in the street, and snigger. |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Yadda on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:55pm wally1 wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:07pm:
Just to be clear, I'm not on any medication, and i do not take recreational drugs. :) But i do experience OBE's occasionally. :D ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-body_experience |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by wally1 on Aug 16th, 2014 at 9:17pm Yadda wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:48pm:
Again your wrong yadda. Your a by product of inbreeding. When adam and eve had children how do you think the human race flourished? The male and and female children used to breed with eachother. Doesnt christianity teach you anything? Unless your not human and some alien species from out of space. |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Karnal on Aug 16th, 2014 at 10:10pm Yadda wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 8:55pm:
Idle hands are the devil’s work. |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Soren on Aug 16th, 2014 at 11:01pm Karnal wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 10:10pm:
Stop fapping, PB. |
Title: Re: The naivety of our judiciary once again exposed Post by Karnal on Aug 17th, 2014 at 12:26am Soren wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 11:01pm:
I say, dear boy, what are Y’s OBEs if not fapping? Not tapdancing, shurely? |
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