Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun Potentially 25,000+ Years Old

If the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun is 25,000+ years old, this fact implies that the Pyramid was built by the oldest civilization known to mankind. As it currently stands in the books, the oldest human civilizations are the Sumerian and the Babylonian civilizations, who are approximately 5,000 years old.


http://www.bosnianpyramids.org/index.php?id=36&lang=en

http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/images/Weekly/BosnianPyramidofSun.jpg

Sounds like crap to me. It's just an oddly shaped hill. Human development does not go backwards for so long like that. People just did not know how to hold together complex societies like that at the time.

freediver wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 6:37pm:

Sounds like crap to me. It's just an oddly shaped hill. Human development does not go backwards for so long like that. People just did not know how to hold together complex societies like that at the time.

many blessings and forsooth

mayhaps the brother taipan needs further readings

on such documented facts already expanded upon

with so very much love here ..

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1306396432

wakey wakey hand off the snakey as it were

and so it is !

namaste

- : ) =

freediver wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 6:37pm:

Sounds like crap to me. It's just an oddly shaped hill. Human development does not go backwards for so long like that. People just did not know how to hold together complex societies like that at the time.

You'd be surprised. The Sumerians for example, we are told, just seemed to pop up from outta no where with a complete civilisation including schools, courts, taxation etc... Its highly likely there existed civilisations before Sumeria.

Taipan wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 7:18pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 17th, 2014 at 6:37pm: Sounds like crap to me. It's just an oddly shaped hill. Human development does not go backwards for so long like that. People just did not know how to hold together complex societies like that at the time. You'd be surprised. The Sumerians for example, we are told, just seemed to pop up from outta no where with a complete civilisation including schools, courts, taxation etc... Its highly likely there existed civilisations before Sumeria.

really ??

Taipan wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 7:18pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 17th, 2014 at 6:37pm: Sounds like crap to me. It's just an oddly shaped hill. Human development does not go backwards for so long like that. People just did not know how to hold together complex societies like that at the time. You'd be surprised. The Sumerians for example, we are told, just seemed to pop up from outta no where with a complete civilisation including schools, courts, taxation etc... Its highly likely there existed civilisations before Sumeria.

Not sure who told you that, but they are wrong. Sumeria is part of a long and steady history in the growing complexity of human society.

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So far, there have been people volunteering, cleaning and securing additional meters of the prehistoric tunnel network. Volunteers have also been exposing more of the ancient concrete on the surface of the pyramids, connecting two archaeological trenches at the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun. Time was spent clearing access paths to the Pyramid of the Sun as well as the Pyramid of the Moon’s archaeological sites.

http://www.bosnianpyramids.org/index.php?id=49&lang=en

These pyramid things are a well orchestrated hoax. People are literally making poo up about them. My guess is there are a few travel agents in on it. Anyone who spends enough time looking out the window of a plane will see hills like that.

freediver wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 7:20pm:

Taipan wrote on Aug 17th, 2014 at 7:18pm: freediver wrote on Aug 17th, 2014 at 6:37pm: Sounds like crap to me. It's just an oddly shaped hill. Human development does not go backwards for so long like that. People just did not know how to hold together complex societies like that at the time. You'd be surprised. The Sumerians for example, we are told, just seemed to pop up from outta no where with a complete civilisation including schools, courts, taxation etc... Its highly likely there existed civilisations before Sumeria. Not sure who told you that, but they are wrong. Sumeria is part of a long and steady history in the growing complexity of human society.

So where did the Sumerians come from? Did they just pop out of the ground?

They were 'always' there. The complex society they built is only one step above what existed previously.

freediver wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 7:22pm:

These pyramid things are a well orchestrated hoax. People are literally making poo up about them. My guess is there are a few travel agents in on it. Anyone who spends enough time looking out the window of a plane will see hills like that.

It appears theres a lot of people involved in this hoax. Hundreds actually.  ::)

Yes. It's a bit like the loch ness monster. Only it's targeted at stupid people.

freediver wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 7:23pm:

They were 'always' there. The complex society they built is only one step above what existed previously.

So a civilisation with schools, courts, their own form of writing is just one step above what ever came before??

By that logic there must have been other civilisations before Sumeria, or at least one.

Correct. Just west of there are the hilly flanks - one of about 7 places in the world where agricultural society developed independently. The hilly flanks was the first one.

The 'one step' made by the sumerians was irrigation. The land was not as inherently fertile as the hilly flanks, but it had nice rivers that gave an effectively bottomless supply of water. Climate change forced these people to adapt, and they did. They had already borrowed agriculture from the hilly flanks and added irrigation to that, creating a society that was increasingly reliant on it's engineered systems. I believe this resulted in the first true 'city states'.

freediver wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

Correct. Just west of there are the hilly flanks - one of about 7 places in the world where agricultural society developed independently. The hilly flanks was the first one. The 'one step' made by the sumerians was irrigation. The land was not as inherently fertile as the hilly flanks, but it had nice rivers that gave an effectively bottomless supply of water. Climate change forced these people to adapt, and they did. They had already borrowed agriculture from the hilly flanks and added irrigation to that, creating a society that was increasingly reliant on it's engineered systems. I believe this resulted in the first true 'city states'.

So the earliest known people are the pre-Sumerians "of the hilly flanks"?

Taipan wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 7:36pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 17th, 2014 at 7:31pm: Correct. Just west of there are the hilly flanks - one of about 7 places in the world where agricultural society developed independently. The hilly flanks was the first one. The 'one step' made by the sumerians was irrigation. The land was not as inherently fertile as the hilly flanks, but it had nice rivers that gave an effectively bottomless supply of water. Climate change forced these people to adapt, and they did. They had already borrowed agriculture from the hilly flanks and added irrigation to that, creating a society that was increasingly reliant on it's engineered systems. I believe this resulted in the first true 'city states'. So the earliest known people are the pre-Sumerians "of the hilly flanks"?

We know of lots of people before that. Up until they settled in the hilly flanks, they were all hunter gatherers of some sort. I think the received wisdom these days is that people actually settled there first, then developed agriculture. They did not 'pop out of nowhere'. It was a very long and gradual process. Archeologists have tracked the changes in the grains that the grew.

Sumeria is not what comes to mind when you think of a city. It was really just an aweful lot of people living in each others filth.

The Egyptians were the first to be able to construct something as elaborate as the alleged Bosnian pyramids. They built on technologies and social systems developed to the east (hilly flanks, sumeria etc). There is no way that they same thing happened 25000 years ago and left no trace, except a few pyramids.

Pyramids in Bosnia and Herzegovina do exist
http://bosnianpyramids.org/index.php?id=2&lang=en

Boy this hoaxter is going for broke on this one. 8-)

Oh dear - the Bosnian Pyramid.  ::)

The OLDEST CIVILISATION is the Sahulian 'Aboriginal' Civilisation of Australia. Founded 40,000+ years ago and probably lasted 5,000 years before 'stagnation' set in due to environmental isolation. I have no doubt that the MegaFauna were killed off by the needs of the Aboriginals over a time span much longer than the Maori needed to kill off the MegaFauna of NZ (just a few hundred years.).
Needless to say, that the Aboriginal Civilisation created a Continent that was more a 'Parkland' than wild bushlands and a Parkland that was made 'providable' to the point that Aboriginals only needed 20% of their time dedicated to attaining food & water. It was truly the ultimate example of the GARDEN OF EDEN existence, this side of BANTU (Africa)
and OPHIR (India).
Alas for the Aboriginals, the lack of Water Technology was their downfall ...and their Prison.
Maybe Black people 'exist' better than other races out there in the Rural/Country 'lands' ...much like Yellow People breed better than other races from within 'Cities' --> like 'Citi-Zens'  :D :P

SUMERIA?
Sumer was a civilisation that sprung up between the rivers of what is now Iraq. Sumer was no different than any other congregation of peoples, even along Rivers - where most large gatherings existed more successfully than others.

...but then, on the Temple Steps of Ur, in praise to the (Moon/Luna) God of SIN ...for all things 'Farming/Weather/etc' - for the Moon does indeed 'rule' such cycles of nature.
Something amazing happened.
Writing/Reading was invented and invented to 'memorise' and 'retain' record of 'seasonal/harvest' events. Nothing more.

...then 'evil' came knocking upon the Temple of Ur and the 'Sinners' as the Priesthood' was known as - suddenly
disappeared.

The invading Babylonians corrupted the use of Reading/Writing to promote their own self-absorbing vanity of 'bloodlines' and after a few more invasions by other 'civilisations' ::) - the Hebrews (Jews) became the first to use Reading/Writing as a tool for oppressing others and propagating their bloodlines as an empowerment under a 'God' that was more powerful than the one that actually 'inspired' Mankind's invention of Reading/Writing.
This 'ubiquitous God'... well, the rest is 'His Story'.  ;)

The 3rd Religion of Islam, not only follows the story of Christianity - although it is not attached physically via the same Book, also 'highlights' a return to the praise of the Moon (Sin) as the 'meaning' behind religion's existence ...even if it is just a crescent and they don't understand the full meaning.

So there you have it - Sin (Moon/Luna) inspired the creation of Reading/Writing upon the steps of the Temple of Ur.
Hence why they were known as 'Sin-Urs' (Sinners) and persecuted by all things RELIGIOUS as in the Three Monotheisms that 'stole' from it.

scary huh  ;)

You don't need to thank me  8-)

If they dug the hill away & found blocks of stone as in the great

pyramids then I might be convinced that it's not a hill.

Otherwise - it's a hoax for the foolish.

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Oh dear - the Bosnian Pyramid.  Roll Eyes The OLDEST CIVILISATION is the Sahulian 'Aboriginal' Civilisation of Australia. Founded 40,000+ years ago and probably lasted 5,000 years before 'stagnation' set in due to environmental isolation. I have no doubt that the MegaFauna were killed off by the needs of the Aboriginals over a time span much longer than the Maori needed to kill off the MegaFauna of NZ (just a few hundred years.).

deary me

good repeating there

you are a great parrot !

namaste

- : ) =

You are the type of guy It_is_the_Light
that would get your jollies off introducing
Religion to 'primitive' peoples with wild stories
of them carrying you upon a throne of jewel encrusted gold
because it will enhance their chances in an afterlife while you deflower their virgins.

ie: You are just a Con ...Artist.
     Rather than an Artist who can provide a substantial reality to the future of this country, let alone planet.

Have you tried his copper pyramids? Starting from a low $19.99. I got one, and the possums stopped eating my passionfruit the very next day.

Yep and the only good thing to come of my one was when I sold the Copper when it earned higher than Gold.
I made a $30 profit !!!

Jasin wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 8:21pm:

You are the type of guy It_is_the_Light that would get your jollies off introducing Religion to 'primitive' peoples with wild stories of them carrying you upon a throne of jewel encrusted gold because it will enhance their chances in an afterlife while you deflower their virgins. ie: You are just a Con ...Artist.      Rather than an Artist who can provide a substantial reality to the future of this country, let alone planet.

many blessings beloved one

one such as I am ,am not religious

you are forgiven ,does this comfort you ?

im interested with forgiveness

namaste

- : ) =

freediver wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 9:50pm:

Have you tried his copper pyramids? Starting from a low $19.99. I got one, and the possums stopped eating my passionfruit the very next day.

many blessings

anyone can make a copper pyramid

or a pyramid of any matter ,

or anti- matter for that matter

either way , be at peace

beloved ones

namaste

- : ) =

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 10:10pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 17th, 2014 at 9:50pm: Have you tried his copper pyramids? Starting from a low $19.99. I got one, and the possums stopped eating my passionfruit the very next day. many blessings anyone can make a copper pyramid or a pyramid of any matter , or anti- matter for that matter either way , be at peace beloved ones namaste - : ) =

Can you make me a pyramid of antimatter please. Do you deliver or do I have to arrange transport?

Setanta wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 10:55pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 17th, 2014 at 10:10pm: freediver wrote on Aug 17th, 2014 at 9:50pm: Have you tried his copper pyramids? Starting from a low $19.99. I got one, and the possums stopped eating my passionfruit the very next day. many blessings anyone can make a copper pyramid or a pyramid of any matter , or anti- matter for that matter either way , be at peace beloved ones namaste - : ) = Can you make me a pyramid of antimatter please. Do you deliver or do I have to arrange transport?

many blessings

you want to buy something you already

exist within

we lol at this , good one !

namaste !

- : ) =

i want antimatter too

Bobby. wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 7:57pm:

If they dug the hill away & found blocks of stone as in the great pyramids then I might be convinced that it's not a hill. Otherwise - it's a hoax for the foolish.

bump

You are not Religious It_is_the_Light
- besides Reading/Writing a lot upon a Forum :P  ;D

You are mostly 'Spiritual'
- that along with the Religious Industry,
holds hands as having 'emerged' out of the Middle-East
and is nothing more than the 'Fashionable' companion
to Religion.
Something France will soon lose ...back to the Middle-East, when they come knocking  ;)
..because of ----> Australia's arrival on the scene  ;)

You are a Fashionable person, who also 'plagerises' from the Art industry - another 'visual' expression.

Must be terrible for the word 'Spirituality' to be brought down to earth as nothing more than just 'Fashion'  :P ;)

...trust me, I've been to the Himalayas too,
and seen all that 'Spirituality' for myself.  ;D

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You are not Religious It_is_the_Light - besides Reading/Writing a lot upon a Forum Tongue  Grin You are mostly 'Spiritual' - that along with the Religious Industry, holds hands as having 'emerged' out of the Middle-East and is nothing more than the 'Fashionable' companion to Religion. Something France will soon lose ...back to the Middle-East, when they come knocking  Wink ..because of ----> Australia's arrival on the scene  Wink You are a Fashionable person, who also 'plagerises' from the Art industry - another 'visual' expression. Must be terrible for the word 'Spirituality' to be brought down to earth as nothing more than just 'Fashion'  Tongue Wink ...trust me, I've been to the Himalayas too, and seen all that 'Spirituality' for myself.  Grin

many blessings

you were wrong calling one such as I am religious

so now you jump to further accusations

then from your imagination you present

abstract metaphors and hyperbole

to limp wristedly hide your ignorance and ego

driven mania.....

this is forgiven yet exposed dear one

fear not for you are loved regardless

in the divine and sacred light

does this comfort you ?

so be it

namaste

- : ) =

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.trust me, I've been to the Himalayas too, and seen all that 'Spirituality' for myself.

http://cdn.graphicsfactory.com/clip-art/image_files/image/9/693839-blind201.gif

Bosnian Pyramid Alignments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YPXpxLTxAg

Dr Sam Osmanagich Bosnian Pyramids presentation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPNVQD5TSYU

Forgive them all, Light. They shall reap what they sow.

And so it is.

Why is it so difficult to believe that a civilisation could have existed before the Sumerians?

Oh wait. Don't answer. I already know.

There were 'civilisations' BEFORE Sumer (Sumeria).
In another part of the world, the very isolated and 'lost' civilisation of Aboriginals still existed but had stagnated for 25,000 years.
There were 'civilisations' before the creation of writing: farming cultures around the world, mostly along the major river systems was the usual go and only crude structures based upon burial rituals existed.

Freedumb wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 10:15pm:

Why is it so difficult to believe that a civilisation could have existed before the Sumerians? Oh wait. Don't answer. I already know.

Exactly. They were Muslims.

Jasin wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 10:35pm:

There were 'civilisations' BEFORE Sumer (Sumeria). In another part of the world, the very isolated and 'lost' civilisation of Aboriginals still existed but had stagnated for 25,000 years. There were 'civilisations' before the creation of writing: farming cultures around the world, mostly along the major river systems was the usual go and only crude structures based upon burial rituals existed.

Aboriginies had a civilisation? That's a first. ::)

Taipan wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 11:13pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 10:35pm: There were 'civilisations' BEFORE Sumer (Sumeria). In another part of the world, the very isolated and 'lost' civilisation of Aboriginals still existed but had stagnated for 25,000 years. There were 'civilisations' before the creation of writing: farming cultures around the world, mostly along the major river systems was the usual go and only crude structures based upon burial rituals existed. Aboriginies had a civilisation? That's a first. ::)

Before the Angles and the Saxons had their’s forced on them by the Italians?

Who knows? Anything’s possible.

Karnal wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 11:17pm:

Taipan wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:13pm: Jasin wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 10:35pm: There were 'civilisations' BEFORE Sumer (Sumeria). In another part of the world, the very isolated and 'lost' civilisation of Aboriginals still existed but had stagnated for 25,000 years. There were 'civilisations' before the creation of writing: farming cultures around the world, mostly along the major river systems was the usual go and only crude structures based upon burial rituals existed. Aboriginies had a civilisation? That's a first. ::) Before the Angles and the Saxons had their’s forced on them by the Italians? Who knows? Anything’s possible.

The civilisation you are referring to wasn't Italian. Rome became a civilisation due to the elites who moved out of Greece and Macedonia.

Both the Angles and the Saxons were originally Germanic. It was Germanic Celts that once sacked Rome. All the Romans did was employ more people in their armies in order to completely overwhelm the Germanics. Unlike the Abos who had their butts kicked without us having to do much at all.

The Aboriginals had a civilisation, that was the most advanced compared to anywhere else around the world for a very long time. Sure it was crude in many ways, but still far ahead of the rest. Isolation was its downfall as stagnation set in and they became lost in time. Think of them as Gardeners: where they 'terraformed' the Bush into a Parkland. Where they only used 20% of their time hunting/gathering, the rest was for ceremonial and other expressions of culture.

The original 'native' Britons were all but wiped out by the invading Germanics - systematic genocide right from the word go. Even today, barely 0.1% in the modern gene pool can be traced back to the original inhabitants.
Now that's an Indigenous Minority !  ;)

Regarding the Aboriginals not being a 'civilisation'? The majority of other civilisations that rose up 20,000 years later were 'settled' Agricultural along major river systems and any 'belief' systems were based upon the 'natural' world (Weather, Land, Harvest) of which they depended upon. The ability to travel along the Rivers to trade and stimulate further growth was there as an opportunity.
IRAQ (Persia) was probably the best example and that's where SUMER eventually kicked off.

The problem of the Aboriginals was that although they migrated early and very far, which is where they gained a lot of 'cultural' stimulation, they eventually fell into Australia - which then not only became a 'dead end', but cut them off before they could learn any major cultural advancements in 'water craft' of any major sea-going effort.

As far as 'Tracking' methods, they are the best in the world - better than the San Bushman. As far as Botany, they have the most extensive. As far as 'Breeding' combinations to prevent 'in-breeding', they have the most complex. They manipulated the natural environment to provide food, rather than the need to 'destroy' it.
One only has to remember how the Nipponese (Japs) suffered from the 'isolationism' that they brought upon themselves.

The Aboriginal 'civilisation' was still in much better shape in 1788, than when the Britons were when the Romans set foot in those Isles. It took over 500 years before the first Briton (Anglo-Saxon) managed to live in a 'House' at a time when there was no 'hostility' from the Romans upon the forest dwelling, animal fur-wearing, stick-shelter locals.

Jasin wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:21am:

The Aboriginals had a civilisation, that was the most advanced compared to anywhere else around the world for a very long time. Sure it was crude in many ways, but still far ahead of the rest. Isolation was its downfall as stagnation set in and they became lost in time. Think of them as Gardeners: where they 'terraformed' the Bush into a Parkland. Where they only used 20% of their time hunting/gathering, the rest was for ceremonial and other expressions of culture. The original 'native' Britons were all but wiped out by the invading Germanics - systematic genocide right from the word go. Even today, barely 0.1% in the modern gene pool can be traced back to the original inhabitants. Now that's an Indigenous Minority !  ;) Regarding the Aboriginals not being a 'civilisation'? The majority of other civilisations that rose up 20,000 years later were 'settled' Agricultural along major river systems and any 'belief' systems were based upon the 'natural' world (Weather, Land, Harvest) of which they depended upon. The ability to travel along the Rivers to trade and stimulate further growth was there as an opportunity. IRAQ (Persia) was probably the best example and that's where SUMER eventually kicked off. The problem of the Aboriginals was that although they migrated early and very far, which is where they gained a lot of 'cultural' stimulation, they eventually fell into Australia - which then not only became a 'dead end', but cut them off before they could learn any major cultural advancements in 'water craft' of any major sea-going effort. As far as 'Tracking' methods, they are the best in the world - better than the San Bushman. As far as Botany, they have the most extensive. As far as 'Breeding' combinations to prevent 'in-breeding', they have the most complex. They manipulated the natural environment to provide food, rather than the need to 'destroy' it. One only has to remember how the Nipponese (Japs) suffered from the 'isolationism' that they brought upon themselves. The Aboriginal 'civilisation' was still in much better shape in 1788, than when the Britons were when the Romans set foot in those Isles. It took over 500 years before the first Briton (Anglo-Saxon) managed to live in a 'House' at a time when there was no 'hostility' from the Romans upon the forest dwelling, animal fur-wearing, stick-shelter locals.

What are you going on about? The abos have had freedom to do as they pleased for 40,000 years(apparently) and in that time they couldn't even invent the wheel! The Britons and Saxons had horses, carts, were forging metal etc... The abos were still wearing animal cloth around their private parts and living in stick shelters and even when we came here they were still in that stage. Even though they were all of the same race they lived as separate, mostly unconnected, tribes across the country. They had that much time on their hands you'd think they would have at least figured out how to liberate themselves from the cycle of life and death like the Buddha did but even their spiritual practices were lowly and earth worshipping.

They were living on massive iron and mineral reserves and couldn't even figure out how to get to them let alone know they were there.

As for the Britons and Saxons... they were of the same race and both had to deal with the Romans. The Romans were the Elite class of Rome who put that civilisation together. The people of rome were an admixture of many types and ethnicities they weren't a single group or race. They were organised by the elites who used the people to further their goals of domination. Abos didn't have to deal with elites.

Taipan wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 11:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:17pm: Taipan wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:13pm: Jasin wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 10:35pm: There were 'civilisations' BEFORE Sumer (Sumeria). In another part of the world, the very isolated and 'lost' civilisation of Aboriginals still existed but had stagnated for 25,000 years. There were 'civilisations' before the creation of writing: farming cultures around the world, mostly along the major river systems was the usual go and only crude structures based upon burial rituals existed. Aboriginies had a civilisation? That's a first. ::) Before the Angles and the Saxons had their’s forced on them by the Italians? Who knows? Anything’s possible. The civilisation you are referring to wasn't Italian. Rome became a civilisation due to the elites who moved out of Greece and Macedonia. Both the Angles and the Saxons were originally Germanic. It was Germanic Celts that once sacked Rome. All the Romans did was employ more people in their armies in order to completely overwhelm the Germanics. Unlike the Abos who had their butts kicked without us having to do much at all.

They also built an empire, whose industry and trade was not matched until after the industrial revolution started. But let's not get lost in the details eh?

freediver wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 5:43pm:

Taipan wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:52pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:17pm: Taipan wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:13pm: Jasin wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 10:35pm: There were 'civilisations' BEFORE Sumer (Sumeria). In another part of the world, the very isolated and 'lost' civilisation of Aboriginals still existed but had stagnated for 25,000 years. There were 'civilisations' before the creation of writing: farming cultures around the world, mostly along the major river systems was the usual go and only crude structures based upon burial rituals existed. Aboriginies had a civilisation? That's a first. ::) Before the Angles and the Saxons had their’s forced on them by the Italians? Who knows? Anything’s possible. The civilisation you are referring to wasn't Italian. Rome became a civilisation due to the elites who moved out of Greece and Macedonia. Both the Angles and the Saxons were originally Germanic. It was Germanic Celts that once sacked Rome. All the Romans did was employ more people in their armies in order to completely overwhelm the Germanics. Unlike the Abos who had their butts kicked without us having to do much at all. They also built an empire, whose industry and trade was not matched until after the industrial revolution started. But let's not get lost in the details eh?

Not details, FD. Freeedom.

The Abos couldn't even invent a wheel!

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 5:56pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 5:43pm: Taipan wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:52pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:17pm: Taipan wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:13pm: Jasin wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 10:35pm: There were 'civilisations' BEFORE Sumer (Sumeria). In another part of the world, the very isolated and 'lost' civilisation of Aboriginals still existed but had stagnated for 25,000 years. There were 'civilisations' before the creation of writing: farming cultures around the world, mostly along the major river systems was the usual go and only crude structures based upon burial rituals existed. Aboriginies had a civilisation? That's a first. ::) Before the Angles and the Saxons had their’s forced on them by the Italians? Who knows? Anything’s possible. The civilisation you are referring to wasn't Italian. Rome became a civilisation due to the elites who moved out of Greece and Macedonia. Both the Angles and the Saxons were originally Germanic. It was Germanic Celts that once sacked Rome. All the Romans did was employ more people in their armies in order to completely overwhelm the Germanics. Unlike the Abos who had their butts kicked without us having to do much at all. They also built an empire, whose industry and trade was not matched until after the industrial revolution started. But let's not get lost in the details eh? Not details, FD. Freeedom. The Abos couldn't even invent a wheel!

But given the conditions in Australia, and their cultural level, there wouldn't have been any point to inventing the wheel...It's not like carts or wagons were usable in the terrain.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 5:56pm: freediver wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 5:43pm: Taipan wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:52pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:17pm: Taipan wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:13pm: Jasin wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 10:35pm: There were 'civilisations' BEFORE Sumer (Sumeria). In another part of the world, the very isolated and 'lost' civilisation of Aboriginals still existed but had stagnated for 25,000 years. There were 'civilisations' before the creation of writing: farming cultures around the world, mostly along the major river systems was the usual go and only crude structures based upon burial rituals existed. Aboriginies had a civilisation? That's a first. ::) Before the Angles and the Saxons had their’s forced on them by the Italians? Who knows? Anything’s possible. The civilisation you are referring to wasn't Italian. Rome became a civilisation due to the elites who moved out of Greece and Macedonia. Both the Angles and the Saxons were originally Germanic. It was Germanic Celts that once sacked Rome. All the Romans did was employ more people in their armies in order to completely overwhelm the Germanics. Unlike the Abos who had their butts kicked without us having to do much at all. They also built an empire, whose industry and trade was not matched until after the industrial revolution started. But let's not get lost in the details eh? Not details, FD. Freeedom. The Abos couldn't even invent a wheel! But given the conditions in Australia, and their cultural level, there wouldn't have been any point to inventing the wheel...It's not like carts or wagons were usable in the terrain.

We’ve seen it all now, FD. Now we’ve got spineless apologists for boongs.

Ask FD about development, Gizmo. FD knows that if Brittainia didn’t rule the waves, someone else would have.

Correlation not causation, innit. If the Pakistanis didn’t invent the cultivation of wheat, the boongs wouldn’t have invented the stick, Mother wouldn’t have invented details, and China wouldn’t be buying our coking coal.

It is a jolly world, no?

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:32pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 8:24pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 5:56pm: freediver wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 5:43pm: Taipan wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:52pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:17pm: Taipan wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:13pm: Jasin wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 10:35pm: There were 'civilisations' BEFORE Sumer (Sumeria). In another part of the world, the very isolated and 'lost' civilisation of Aboriginals still existed but had stagnated for 25,000 years. There were 'civilisations' before the creation of writing: farming cultures around the world, mostly along the major river systems was the usual go and only crude structures based upon burial rituals existed. Aboriginies had a civilisation? That's a first. ::) Before the Angles and the Saxons had their’s forced on them by the Italians? Who knows? Anything’s possible. The civilisation you are referring to wasn't Italian. Rome became a civilisation due to the elites who moved out of Greece and Macedonia. Both the Angles and the Saxons were originally Germanic. It was Germanic Celts that once sacked Rome. All the Romans did was employ more people in their armies in order to completely overwhelm the Germanics. Unlike the Abos who had their butts kicked without us having to do much at all. They also built an empire, whose industry and trade was not matched until after the industrial revolution started. But let's not get lost in the details eh? Not details, FD. Freeedom. The Abos couldn't even invent a wheel! But given the conditions in Australia, and their cultural level, there wouldn't have been any point to inventing the wheel...It's not like carts or wagons were usable in the terrain. We’ve seen it all now, FD. Now we’ve got spineless apologists for boongs. Ask FD about development, Gizmo. FD knows that if Brittainia didn’t rule the waves, someone else would have. Correlation not causation, innit. If the Pakistanis didn’t invent the cultivation of wheat, the boongs wouldn’t have invented the stick, Mother wouldn’t have invented details, and China wouldn’t be buying our coking coal. It is a jolly world, no?

No not an apologist, just know that hunter gatherers generally don't use or invent the wheel. That doesn't usually happen until the agrarian stage.

Did you hear that, Taipan? Agrarian.

Gizmo, the Abos did invent the stick, didn’t they? Taipan’s a bit hush-hush on that.

FD thinks they should have invented an empire, but couldn’t we just say they borrowed one from us?

That's the point of 'cultural isolation' that I am making.
The Anglo-Saxons wiped out the original 'indigenous' Britons at 99% success rate. The motivation to build 'Boats' came to being able to see the distant Briton coastline and its just a short trip across the Channel.
The Aboriginals 'walked' across into Australia and even when the water's rose, the tribes (Carpentarian) around the north still used small water-craft.

The Anglo-Saxons had the 'stimulation', first in regards to who they wiped out and then with influx from Danish (Scandinavians) from the north, more Germanics and even small pockets of Gauls. Half of the Irish came from 'via Spain/Portugal' (Iberia) and before that : Cathage, Lebanon and down from the Balkans.  Throw in the Romans who were already well stimulated 'culturally' and you can see how the Anglo-Saxons (West Germans?  :P) learned more than what they originally had. Even still, at the time of the first Roman 'habituation' (Invasion came later) - the Anglo-Saxons were nothing more than a primitive 'forest' people with Druidic 'naturalism/animism' beliefs. Stonehenge and Barrows were as good as it got.

Being 'Nomadic' had its cultural advantages - they got to visit many other cultures and share ideas, but the Aboriginals got cut off and forgotten. A sanctuary from the world's problems or a Prison for 40,000 lifetimes? :(

Its kinda sad seeing people who are totally dependent upon 'City' living and couldn't cope with life on the 'outside' - institutionalised. ::)