I just finished watching all episodes, in one sitting, of the TV Series "Building Australia" as hosted by John  Doyle.

I was impressed with John Doyle as a Presenter, who can add a bit more 'personality' and speak clearly, than being just a 'informative machine of monotony' - nor rely upon his 'Roy Slaven' take on humour. I loved his last comments outside his own childhood house  :) 8-)

I was very impressed more so with the Program-Series itself. Well done! It made sure it covered all bases, every angle and showed such variety that 'transcended' any bias that can be hindered by such things as 'Political Borders'. That is - it was able to see things not just from a Sydney-Sider's point of view, it was as if it was produced by x6 Producers from around the country.
Here is a link:


http://buildingaustralia.historychannel.com.au/

Which brings me to the Australian House (Home)

The Sydney Terrace: Very reliably built House, but very 'British' in style. Anyone walking through Paddington (very affluent lifestyle suburb now) knows that 'no-one' living in those houses ever actually are seen 'socialising' via those small verandahs nowadays. Its an 'Inward' living abode.

The Sydney Sandstone: Very 'Sydney' in its material use of Sandstone, but the style of the buildings are still 'overseas' in their appearance. The Rocks are a good example of an Australian/Sydney material - but British style. Again the house is 'outward' in its style from being Australian, while being lived as an 'inward' lifestyle.

Burley-Griffin's House at Castle-Crag: A very Australian/Sydney use of material - BushRock and a very Australian/Sydney 'style' of design. Burley-Griffin, an American (USA) always looked 'inwards' to Australia for inspiration and his Castle-Crag House produces it as the best example in all of Sydney. He even caters to the 'inwardly living' lifestyle that is the city of Sydney.

Melbournian Terrace: A Far better planned version of the Sydney Terrace and with better accessories too. Melbourne always had that luxury, but these Houses get used by the 'general' public, not really the domain of the 'affluently styled' people. They are a bit more 'outwardly' sociable than their Sydney counter-parts for being many a provision to peoples in need.

The QUEENSLANDER: My god! What an amazing innovation of House that didn't think back to 'overseas' (outward) for comfort, but stepped up to the challenge of adapting to the Environment around it (inward) and still looking great. The living style is definitely 'Outward' for the occupant with its open spaces.
The NT - Queenslander: Akin to the Queenslander house, this style looked 'outward' though, to overseas influences and still provided an 'outward' living for the occupants. Come to think of it - it appears like an early form of BeachComber as well.

Homestead: Probably the most 'boring' of the lot. Just a House that was made to be 'just there' because there was nothing else there. A lot of these 'Homesteads' - although found more 'inward' of this continent that all the other styles - the vast majority of them kinda still were styled with a (outward) British look about them. Although Sandstone gave them an Australian like material, only the Creek 'Hobbit' holes at Burra seemed 'inwardly' Australian  :P
*Terrible to see no Trees in South Australia  :-? :(

The Weekender: Ahh yes - the ramshackle little abodes that provided city people with a 'getaway' period. It was more about the 'location' than the house itself. But, I must add - it was more about the 'collective' of such 'Weekenders' together that gave rise to such a popular House trend and style. Style is hard to pin - as most were made from all sorts of stuff. But it provided 'outward' living conditions and possibly the most superior form of Socialising that Australians get to experience ...other than getting drug@#%&ed and drunk in a Pub/Club while having sex with someone you really do despise ...like an illegal immigrant.  :P

Federation: One of the most 'beautiful' looking style of Houses found around the nation. Its ironic that something that came into being as being 'inwardly' Australian ...was made up from 'overseas'/outward influences.

Project: Practical, efficient, cheap and very popular. Such styles as the Tocumwal and Harry Sedler's (an American) 'overseas' style of the 'cubism' flourished as possible the most successful 'overseas' style of housing in Australia.
The BeachComber (Project) is based upon overseas form of housing but somehow perfects itself around Australia and not just along coasts. A house that 'inwardly' provides for your Cars, Boats and storage - but creates the 'outwardly' living lifestyle for its occupants. I must add that, like the Queenslander (and the NT), it too would be good in times of floods.

My pick?
I admire Burley-Griffin's approach, that although he was a Foreigner - he chose to look inward towards the Australian country and even provide an 'organic' look to the house. To me, he was the most 'progressive' Designer for what constituted an Australian house. Wether he used 'Australian-made' materials all the time - I dunno? But the Bushrock look at Castle-Cragg is just awesome, even if it does seem like a house that 'hides' the people within. I do know that Burley-Griffin was 'varied' in his styles and not everything looked like Castle-Cragg.

What is not presented is the STRAW-BALE House - a new kid on the block that provides the most 'superior practicality' and 'materials' in an era where Housing has become just ...well, look at all those 'BLOCK' Houses that cost your x5 times more than what is really needed for a house. To me they are the poor persons (because you will become poor at those prices) 'Mansion' that flood the suburbs, kill backyards and smother beachfronts and coastlines.

So what makes an Australian House?
;)

The typical Orstralian house of the past was the California bungalow.

California bungalow Wiki:

"The bungalow was so popular in California and Australia that very few houses were built in any other style during the 1920s."

But with the rise of the "Aussie" culture, the style of our architecture could now best be described as being 'American Outhouse'.

Yes - the Californian Bungalow was promoted on the Series.
Very successful.
8-)

Jasin wrote on Aug 20^th, 2014 at 6:13pm:

So what makes an Australian House? ;)

There are as MANY options, there - as there are to "What makes an AUSTRALIAN ?"

Indeed Buzz,

That's why I liked the Program Series.

It not only, via all things 'HOUSE',
described the 'Australian-ness'
via the influences of what part of the country they were found in (Tropical to Temperate is a good example of difference)
but also as to what time they were expressing.

The Sydney Terrace (speculative building) is a great example of a House design that is influenced in its style by an 'outside' source (Britain) and keeps its occupants in an 'inward' type of living.
Then you have the Queenslander which is a great example of a House design that looks 'inwards' to Australia itself (with what it knows at the time) for Design ...which ironically provides for an 'outward' type of living for its occupants.

...one rejects Australia in two ways, the other accepts Australia in two ways.

For me - it is a great TOOL or way to think, when 'considering' all things IDENTITY
with such things like ...the FLAG.
Need to come to understand and accept all the points of the Compass BEFORE you/I make a decision as to which direction to go. Even then, one must understand the 'natural' influences that may, like a storm, prevent one travelling in 'that' direction - as a straight line (down to a watery grave).

That's why I was impressed with the program series: it took into consideration - every angle of Australian-ness from every corner and every period.

Is there then, a one - true type of Australian design that outshines all the rest?
Is there one - true 'place and time' where that House is found?

I would say that there is one 'Building' that does - the BIG BARNACLE (Opera House), but is it really a 'House'??  :o

Maybe the True - Australian-ness of a Home, is not a House at all? :-?
In North America - if you live in a Trailer Park, you are considered 'Social Trash', a 'negative' aspect of North American way of life.
But in Sahul (Australia) - living in a Trailer Park is held in high regard due to not only its 'locations', but also because of the valuble 'times' spent there. The Socialising at Caravan/Camper Parks both 'official & unofficial' is still the highest form of 'positive' socialising that I have experienced in this country. Even Australia Day endeavours to capture such a thing.

Alas  :( - seems many 'prime' locations that this sort of thing occurred, have been over-run by the less sociable 'Block' MANSION. Large monstrous Houses that take every inch of open space as it can. It sprawls along the beaches as close to the tidal mark it can get and it looms over people walking along the sands as if to state "This is MY backyard! Get lost! Get off and get stuffed!"  >:(   >:(   ...and so it does indeed happen.

Thankfully some 'Coastal' regions recognise this 'negative' impact and steer clear of 'High Rise' and 'Large/Double storey' infrastructure where most are built as just 'Rental' Properties for Holidayers ...who can't find a more sociable experience. I used to work installing stuff into these large expensive Block Mansions (permanent/holidayer) when the 'money' was being thrown about and BORROWED, but now that the Economic reality has hit and everyone is paying twice the amount 'back' to where it all came from. These Block Mansions sit unfinished, empty and up-For Sale.  :( ::)  Even Holiday time, they only cast a dark shadow upon a greedy and selfish period of 'self-indulgence'.  :P

I used to holiday as a youth at a place called Scotts Heads in Northern NSW (south of Coffs Harbour). It was always a pleasure driving along the road to suddenly see the Sea rise up into our line of sight via a high 'outlook' from one of the coastal edges.
Now ...three giant monstrosities block such a sight, for the mere pleasure of just a few. There is a little 'parking' space (x2 cars)  next to the 'WALL' of Mansions, where once was a space for many. Its as if to say - "oops"  ::) I remember standing there as an adult and looking towards an Occupant of one of the Mansions - enjoying his 'better' View with a beer. I couldn't help hide my disgust, but I was polite enough not to yell abuse.
...so this is what Australians do, when they get some 'money'. Its all about 'themselves'. Its all about Councils getting desperate and thoughtless for money.
Its all about the greed of Real Estate over the shared experience of the many.

Wouldn't it be great if all housing and infrastructure, besides Ports (CBD's ) were forced to keep 'behind the line'
and not allowed to 'sprawl' all over good natural environments.
At Scotts Heads - I entered the water to 'get away from it all', as did everyone I'm sure. Back then - one could turn around and see Trees, green hills and more. But now - you turn around in the water and see Block Mansions, High Rise Condominiums, Flats, and a major road called 'Boulevarde' littered with shops and cars, cars, cars.
Oh ...and a few council planted 'trees'.  ::)

There is no escape from it at all  :(

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 21^st, 2014 at 11:27am:

Jasin wrote on Aug 20th, 2014 at 6:13pm: So what makes an Australian House? ;) There are as MANY options, there - as there are to "What makes an AUSTRALIAN ?"

The Aussie brick 'venereal' (it has spread like a pox upon the land) would have to be the blandest type of house that there is (it sets off our urban sprawl perfectly).

The Brady house: http://www.imnotastalker.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/dscn0245.jpg

The Simpson house:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/742_Evergreen_Terrace.png

I've seen a few 'Brady' Houses around (OZ) in my time.
Seen many 'overseas' and 'odd local' as well.
Even thought I saw a 'Jetsons' once when young - looked really neat too.
Just off a beach in a Southern Sydney area is a big house that looks like a SeaShell.
Log & Stone 'cabins' (Weekenders) remind me of more the North American styling.

The Double-Brick Veneers are a popular one amongst the rich in OZ ...still after the Straw Bale Houses prove a mere 'fraction' of the price to build, with an 80% better insulation/strength/& more - rating.  :o

My house is a simple brick veneer

I always thought anything double brick was "cavity brick"
thus the brick not being a veneer over a wooden frame?

That aside I'd suggest GA should either hit the long shoe or stay where ever it is he resides ....

what an Australian hating icehole.  ::) >:(

Jasin wrote on Aug 20^th, 2014 at 5:37pm:

it was able to see things not just from a Sydney-Sider's point of view, it was as if it was produced by x6 Producers from around the country.

That is becoming increasingly rare these days. With tight network budgets everything seems to come out of Sydney.

I know what you mean Sir Oh Yeah.

Money dictates the Perception and Quality available, etc.
Where apparently the 'Australian' that is being promoted, is merely one person's/City's persception.

There have even been some pretty 'well worked' Books upon what it means to be Australian, but again - they mostly exhibit a bias to one person's interpretation from one point of the Australian country.

I'm torn.
I can't help but like the look of the FEDERATION styles of Houses, but feel a bit let down that they are a combination from 'overseas' influences, rather than anything 'domestically' Australian.  :-/

The NT version of the Queenslander was the most innovative and flexible design. In fact - I found it something of an 'original' version of what Beach Combers  came in as (from Overseas: California) many decades later.
Wonder if California - copied?  :-?
To me, the NT reminded me of a Tree-House, or as close to a Tree that a House could get (at that time, which was a long time ago). Even the fact that many 'held firm' when Cyclone Tracy hit.


...yep, we have a WINNER ! :)
For me, I would aim to Design like the NT for its absolute practicality, but I would base the insulation factor upon Straw Bale as much as I could possibly get away with.
I like how the NT creates an 'openess' or 'outward' way of living for the occupants, unlike something like the Sydney Terrace where most occupants 'hide away inside' as if not want to be 'here' - but back in Britain.  :-?
I like how it maximises the Backyard/Frontyard as much as possible with much to be 'sheltered' under the majority of the House above.
I would also try and incorporate as much 'Australian' organic/natural stylisation as possible (much like Burley-Griffin does, except when pumping the famous Art Deco style which really supports the 'Art of Art' itself ...as in Leeton, here in OZ and Napier in NZ).

Ok, I'm off to do some sketches. ;)

Jasin wrote on Aug 21^st, 2014 at 7:03pm:

I've seen a few 'Brady' Houses around (OZ) in my time. Seen many 'overseas' and 'odd local' as well. Even thought I saw a 'Jetsons' once when young - looked really neat too. Just off a beach in a Southern Sydney area is a big house that looks like a SeaShell. Log & Stone 'cabins' (Weekenders) remind me of more the North American styling. The Double-Brick Veneers are a popular one amongst the rich in OZ ...still after the Straw Bale Houses prove a mere 'fraction' of the price to build, with an 80% better insulation/strength/& more - rating.  :o

The Brady house is modest by American standards. And yes there are houses like theirs here, but these were all built when the 'Orstralian' was predominant. And as Gnads points out below, brick veneer is just that a veneer of brick attached to a wooden frame (the bricks not even supporting the roof). There's nothing all that wrong with it as a construction method, it probably competes with American built wooden houses, but the size and features is where it's lacking. No basement or attic for example. Problems that can be solved without needing to renovate using a bulldozer mind you.

And as for alternatives, even a sandbag house would have be an improvement on shipping containers welded together. (Maybe it's the Aussies (magnetic) attraction to fings steel (a legacy of 'e's ball 'n' chain days) and the sense of security 'e would get living in somefing that was at least used to transport freight in the 'old of a ship?)

Sandbag Houses:

https://www.google.com.au/search?biw=1024&bih=553&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Sandbag+houses&btnG=

Gnads wrote on Aug 21^st, 2014 at 7:17pm:

My house is a simple brick veneer I always thought anything double brick was "cavity brick" thus the brick not being a veneer over a wooden frame? That aside I'd suggest GA should either hit the long shoe or stay where ever it is he resides .... what an Australian hating icehole.  ::) >:(

'Ere, 'ang about! I'm attackin' Aussies, not Ostralians.

Aussies only came to prominence as a cultural force back in the seventies. Until then we had suppressed them the way most self respecting cultures manage to do to their bottom of the barrel types. We've been paying the price for letting these ferals out ever since.
'Tin' houses for example. Plastic's next? (no, the Aussie's love for corrugated tin wont be replaced by plastic).

Gnads wrote on Aug 21^st, 2014 at 7:17pm:

My house is a simple brick veneer I always thought anything double brick was "cavity brick" thus the brick not being a veneer over a wooden frame? That aside I'd suggest GA should either hit the long shoe or stay where ever it is he resides .... what an Australian hating icehole.  ::) >:(

The poor thing just feels threatened by aussies. Come here, we won't hurt you snookums.

Shakey wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 11:33am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 7:17pm: My house is a simple brick veneer I always thought anything double brick was "cavity brick" thus the brick not being a veneer over a wooden frame? That aside I'd suggest GA should either hit the long shoe or stay where ever it is he resides .... what an Australian hating icehole.  ::) >:( The poor thing just feels threatened by aussies. Come here, we won't hurt you snookums.

Won't 'urt me? Youse scum is the reason why I can't afford to rent a house, why I pay so much for groceries. Youse is the peoples who is sellin' off the farm, the mines & the 'ouses to the Chinese, all for a quick buck to piss up against a wall or put frough the pokies. So don't you go tellin' me ya won't 'urt me? You is destroyin' this country and everyfing of value in it. The kind of environmental, economic & cultural vandalism we'd 'spect from people who came from convict stock. Youse can all go 'ome I say.

GA wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 11:48am:

Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:33am: Gnads wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 7:17pm: My house is a simple brick veneer I always thought anything double brick was "cavity brick" thus the brick not being a veneer over a wooden frame? That aside I'd suggest GA should either hit the long shoe or stay where ever it is he resides .... what an Australian hating icehole.  ::) >:( The poor thing just feels threatened by aussies. Come here, we won't hurt you snookums. Won't 'urt me? Youse scum is the reason why I can't afford to rent a house, why I pay so much for groceries. Youse is the peoples who is sellin' off the farm, the mines & the 'ouses to the Chinese, all for a quick buck to piss up against a wall or put frough the pokies. So don't you go tellin' me ya won't 'urt me? You is destroyin' this country and everyfing of value in it. The kind of environmental, economic & cultural vandalism we'd 'spect from people who came from convict stock. Youse can all go 'ome I say.

Well you've got me in one even though I rent as well. How about you get yourself better educated, get motivated and get an attitude transplant and you'll have more money? Don't blame Australians for your personal failings.

Shakey wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 11:54am:

GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:48am: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:33am: Gnads wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 7:17pm: My house is a simple brick veneer I always thought anything double brick was "cavity brick" thus the brick not being a veneer over a wooden frame? That aside I'd suggest GA should either hit the long shoe or stay where ever it is he resides .... what an Australian hating icehole.  ::) >:( The poor thing just feels threatened by aussies. Come here, we won't hurt you snookums. Won't 'urt me? Youse scum is the reason why I can't afford to rent a house, why I pay so much for groceries. Youse is the peoples who is sellin' off the farm, the mines & the 'ouses to the Chinese, all for a quick buck to piss up against a wall or put frough the pokies. So don't you go tellin' me ya won't 'urt me? You is destroyin' this country and everyfing of value in it. The kind of environmental, economic & cultural vandalism we'd 'spect from people who came from convict stock. Youse can all go 'ome I say. Well you've got me in one even though I rent as well. How about you get yourself better educated, get motivated and get an attitude transplant and you'll have more money? Don't blame Australians for your personal failings.

They're not just 'my' personal failings I'm afraid:

http://www.actu.org.au/Media/Mediareleases/AverageFamiliesCantAffordOwnHomeNewResearch.aspx

(And that report was from 2004)

It's people like yourself, flag-waiving nationalists, that try and pass the buck (sorry, 'quid' keepin' wiff the cockney accent) when it's you and the culture that you're defending that is  the problem. It's against the 'Aussie' rules to "whinge" (complain) for example, consequently we pay through the nose for everything. Then there's the 'it's a roof ovva our 'eads at least' philosphy, (be it one with a premium price) that sets the standard required for 'ousing.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/generation-rent-battles-to-get-in-the-game-20131012-2vf43.html

Becoming renters is in line with our regression (the cockney didn't own 'e's own 'ome). And notice that the example we've rejected, the Americans, they 'don't' have a housing shortage.

My older brother had remarked to me back in the eighties that the Aussie dream was to own 'e's own car (not an 'ouse). The British loyalist, the Aussie, is what's bringing us down.

GA wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 12:19pm:

Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:54am: GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:48am: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:33am: Gnads wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 7:17pm: My house is a simple brick veneer I always thought anything double brick was "cavity brick" thus the brick not being a veneer over a wooden frame? That aside I'd suggest GA should either hit the long shoe or stay where ever it is he resides .... what an Australian hating icehole.  ::) >:( The poor thing just feels threatened by aussies. Come here, we won't hurt you snookums. Won't 'urt me? Youse scum is the reason why I can't afford to rent a house, why I pay so much for groceries. Youse is the peoples who is sellin' off the farm, the mines & the 'ouses to the Chinese, all for a quick buck to piss up against a wall or put frough the pokies. So don't you go tellin' me ya won't 'urt me? You is destroyin' this country and everyfing of value in it. The kind of environmental, economic & cultural vandalism we'd 'spect from people who came from convict stock. Youse can all go 'ome I say. Well you've got me in one even though I rent as well. How about you get yourself better educated, get motivated and get an attitude transplant and you'll have more money? Don't blame Australians for your personal failings. They're not just 'my' personal failings I'm afraid: http://www.actu.org.au/Media/Mediareleases/AverageFamiliesCantAffordOwnHomeNewResearch.aspx (And that report was from 2004) It's people like yourself, flag-waiving nationalists, that try and pass the buck (sorry, 'quid' keepin' wiff the cockney accent) when it's you and the culture that you're defending that is  the problem. It's against the 'Aussie' rules to "whinge" (complain) for example, consequently we pay through the nose for everything. Then there's the 'it's a roof ovva our 'eads at least' philosphy, (be it one with a premium price) that sets the standard required for 'ousing. http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/generation-rent-battles-to-get-in-the-game-20131012-2vf43.html Becoming renters is in line with our regression (the cockney didn't own 'e's own 'ome). And notice that the example we've rejected, the Americans, they 'don't' have a housing shortage. My older brother had remarked to me back in the eighties, that the Aussie dream was to own 'e's own car, not an 'ouse. The British loyalist, the Aussie, is what's bringing us down.

I am a flag waving nationalist!! Join the club because you are one of the biggest anglophobic bigots on here.

Shakey wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 12:23pm:

GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:19pm: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:54am: GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:48am: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:33am: Gnads wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 7:17pm: My house is a simple brick veneer I always thought anything double brick was "cavity brick" thus the brick not being a veneer over a wooden frame? That aside I'd suggest GA should either hit the long shoe or stay where ever it is he resides .... what an Australian hating icehole.  ::) >:( The poor thing just feels threatened by aussies. Come here, we won't hurt you snookums. Won't 'urt me? Youse scum is the reason why I can't afford to rent a house, why I pay so much for groceries. Youse is the peoples who is sellin' off the farm, the mines & the 'ouses to the Chinese, all for a quick buck to piss up against a wall or put frough the pokies. So don't you go tellin' me ya won't 'urt me? You is destroyin' this country and everyfing of value in it. The kind of environmental, economic & cultural vandalism we'd 'spect from people who came from convict stock. Youse can all go 'ome I say. Well you've got me in one even though I rent as well. How about you get yourself better educated, get motivated and get an attitude transplant and you'll have more money? Don't blame Australians for your personal failings. They're not just 'my' personal failings I'm afraid: http://www.actu.org.au/Media/Mediareleases/AverageFamiliesCantAffordOwnHomeNewResearch.aspx (And that report was from 2004) It's people like yourself, flag-waiving nationalists, that try and pass the buck (sorry, 'quid' keepin' wiff the cockney accent) when it's you and the culture that you're defending that is  the problem. It's against the 'Aussie' rules to "whinge" (complain) for example, consequently we pay through the nose for everything. Then there's the 'it's a roof ovva our 'eads at least' philosphy, (be it one with a premium price) that sets the standard required for 'ousing. http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/generation-rent-battles-to-get-in-the-game-20131012-2vf43.html Becoming renters is in line with our regression (the cockney didn't own 'e's own 'ome). And notice that the example we've rejected, the Americans, they 'don't' have a housing shortage. My older brother had remarked to me back in the eighties, that the Aussie dream was to own 'e's own car, not an 'ouse. The British loyalist, the Aussie, is what's bringing us down. I am a flag waving nationalist!! Join the club because you are one of the biggest anglophobic bigots on here.

'Aussies' are anglophiles, their leader Aussie tony is an anglophile  (both of their last two leaders were British born). Aussies are part of a culture whose ancestors never chose to come here. They still deep inside call England 'ome.

GA wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 12:28pm:

Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:23pm: GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:19pm: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:54am: GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:48am: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:33am: Gnads wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 7:17pm: My house is a simple brick veneer I always thought anything double brick was "cavity brick" thus the brick not being a veneer over a wooden frame? That aside I'd suggest GA should either hit the long shoe or stay where ever it is he resides .... what an Australian hating icehole.  ::) >:( The poor thing just feels threatened by aussies. Come here, we won't hurt you snookums. Won't 'urt me? Youse scum is the reason why I can't afford to rent a house, why I pay so much for groceries. Youse is the peoples who is sellin' off the farm, the mines & the 'ouses to the Chinese, all for a quick buck to piss up against a wall or put frough the pokies. So don't you go tellin' me ya won't 'urt me? You is destroyin' this country and everyfing of value in it. The kind of environmental, economic & cultural vandalism we'd 'spect from people who came from convict stock. Youse can all go 'ome I say. Well you've got me in one even though I rent as well. How about you get yourself better educated, get motivated and get an attitude transplant and you'll have more money? Don't blame Australians for your personal failings. They're not just 'my' personal failings I'm afraid: http://www.actu.org.au/Media/Mediareleases/AverageFamiliesCantAffordOwnHomeNewResearch.aspx (And that report was from 2004) It's people like yourself, flag-waiving nationalists, that try and pass the buck (sorry, 'quid' keepin' wiff the cockney accent) when it's you and the culture that you're defending that is  the problem. It's against the 'Aussie' rules to "whinge" (complain) for example, consequently we pay through the nose for everything. Then there's the 'it's a roof ovva our 'eads at least' philosphy, (be it one with a premium price) that sets the standard required for 'ousing. http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/generation-rent-battles-to-get-in-the-game-20131012-2vf43.html Becoming renters is in line with our regression (the cockney didn't own 'e's own 'ome). And notice that the example we've rejected, the Americans, they 'don't' have a housing shortage. My older brother had remarked to me back in the eighties, that the Aussie dream was to own 'e's own car, not an 'ouse. The British loyalist, the Aussie, is what's bringing us down. I am a flag waving nationalist!! Join the club because you are one of the biggest anglophobic bigots on here. 'Aussies' are anglophiles, their leader Aussie tony is an anglophile  (both of their last two leaders were British born). Aussies are part of a culture whose ancestors never chose to come here. They still deep inside call England 'ome.

Is they why you hate them??

Shakey wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 12:29pm:

GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:28pm: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:23pm: GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:19pm: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:54am: GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:48am: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:33am: Gnads wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 7:17pm: My house is a simple brick veneer I always thought anything double brick was "cavity brick" thus the brick not being a veneer over a wooden frame? That aside I'd suggest GA should either hit the long shoe or stay where ever it is he resides .... what an Australian hating icehole.  ::) >:( The poor thing just feels threatened by aussies. Come here, we won't hurt you snookums. Won't 'urt me? Youse scum is the reason why I can't afford to rent a house, why I pay so much for groceries. Youse is the peoples who is sellin' off the farm, the mines & the 'ouses to the Chinese, all for a quick buck to piss up against a wall or put frough the pokies. So don't you go tellin' me ya won't 'urt me? You is destroyin' this country and everyfing of value in it. The kind of environmental, economic & cultural vandalism we'd 'spect from people who came from convict stock. Youse can all go 'ome I say. Well you've got me in one even though I rent as well. How about you get yourself better educated, get motivated and get an attitude transplant and you'll have more money? Don't blame Australians for your personal failings. They're not just 'my' personal failings I'm afraid: http://www.actu.org.au/Media/Mediareleases/AverageFamiliesCantAffordOwnHomeNewResearch.aspx (And that report was from 2004) It's people like yourself, flag-waiving nationalists, that try and pass the buck (sorry, 'quid' keepin' wiff the cockney accent) when it's you and the culture that you're defending that is  the problem. It's against the 'Aussie' rules to "whinge" (complain) for example, consequently we pay through the nose for everything. Then there's the 'it's a roof ovva our 'eads at least' philosphy, (be it one with a premium price) that sets the standard required for 'ousing. http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/generation-rent-battles-to-get-in-the-game-20131012-2vf43.html Becoming renters is in line with our regression (the cockney didn't own 'e's own 'ome). And notice that the example we've rejected, the Americans, they 'don't' have a housing shortage. My older brother had remarked to me back in the eighties, that the Aussie dream was to own 'e's own car, not an 'ouse. The British loyalist, the Aussie, is what's bringing us down. I am a flag waving nationalist!! Join the club because you are one of the biggest anglophobic bigots on here. 'Aussies' are anglophiles, their leader Aussie tony is an anglophile  (both of their last two leaders were British born). Aussies are part of a culture whose ancestors never chose to come here. They still deep inside call England 'ome. Is they why you hate them??

It's not about hating anyone. The problem is that there can be no concessions. The Aussie is incredibly complacent, give him a break and it's "she'll be right mate" again, all over.

She won't be all right. The ship is sinking (it's a boat I've been watching take water for decades now). I'm here trying to do what I consider is my duty to do. That is convince others we have a problem, what that problem is, and that there is something we can do to help. But being the worst salesman on earth, one who is faced with trying to sell success to those who reject it most, it looks as though I'm the one who's now failing big time. 

GA wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 12:48pm:

Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:29pm: GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:28pm: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:23pm: GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:19pm: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:54am: GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:48am: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:33am: Gnads wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 7:17pm: My house is a simple brick veneer I always thought anything double brick was "cavity brick" thus the brick not being a veneer over a wooden frame? That aside I'd suggest GA should either hit the long shoe or stay where ever it is he resides .... what an Australian hating icehole.  ::) >:( The poor thing just feels threatened by aussies. Come here, we won't hurt you snookums. Won't 'urt me? Youse scum is the reason why I can't afford to rent a house, why I pay so much for groceries. Youse is the peoples who is sellin' off the farm, the mines & the 'ouses to the Chinese, all for a quick buck to piss up against a wall or put frough the pokies. So don't you go tellin' me ya won't 'urt me? You is destroyin' this country and everyfing of value in it. The kind of environmental, economic & cultural vandalism we'd 'spect from people who came from convict stock. Youse can all go 'ome I say. Well you've got me in one even though I rent as well. How about you get yourself better educated, get motivated and get an attitude transplant and you'll have more money? Don't blame Australians for your personal failings. They're not just 'my' personal failings I'm afraid: http://www.actu.org.au/Media/Mediareleases/AverageFamiliesCantAffordOwnHomeNewResearch.aspx (And that report was from 2004) It's people like yourself, flag-waiving nationalists, that try and pass the buck (sorry, 'quid' keepin' wiff the cockney accent) when it's you and the culture that you're defending that is  the problem. It's against the 'Aussie' rules to "whinge" (complain) for example, consequently we pay through the nose for everything. Then there's the 'it's a roof ovva our 'eads at least' philosphy, (be it one with a premium price) that sets the standard required for 'ousing. http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/generation-rent-battles-to-get-in-the-game-20131012-2vf43.html Becoming renters is in line with our regression (the cockney didn't own 'e's own 'ome). And notice that the example we've rejected, the Americans, they 'don't' have a housing shortage. My older brother had remarked to me back in the eighties, that the Aussie dream was to own 'e's own car, not an 'ouse. The British loyalist, the Aussie, is what's bringing us down. I am a flag waving nationalist!! Join the club because you are one of the biggest anglophobic bigots on here. 'Aussies' are anglophiles, their leader Aussie tony is an anglophile  (both of their last two leaders were British born). Aussies are part of a culture whose ancestors never chose to come here. They still deep inside call England 'ome. Is they why you hate them?? It's not about hating anyone. The problem is that there can be no concessions. The Aussie is incredibly complacent, give him a break and it's "she'll be right mate" again, all over. She won't be all right. The ship is sinking (it's a boat I've been watching take water for decades now). I'm here trying to do what I consider is my duty to do. That is convince others we have a problem, what that problem is, and that there is something we can do to help. But being the worst salesman on earth, one who is faced with trying to sell success to those who reject it most, it looks as though I'm the one who's now failing big time.

So you are worried for Australian society and want to highlight the problem- white Australians of British decent. :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ But you don't hate them, but only a few posts ago you called them scum. Your post....Won't 'urt me? Youse scum is the reason why I can't afford to rent a house.  From this post you blame your life on the people that make up Australian society. True?? Are you opinions just personal??

Shakey wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 12:53pm:

GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:48pm: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:29pm: GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:28pm: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:23pm: GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:19pm: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:54am: GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:48am: Shakey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 11:33am: Gnads wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 7:17pm: My house is a simple brick veneer I always thought anything double brick was "cavity brick" thus the brick not being a veneer over a wooden frame? That aside I'd suggest GA should either hit the long shoe or stay where ever it is he resides .... what an Australian hating icehole.  ::) >:( The poor thing just feels threatened by aussies. Come here, we won't hurt you snookums. Won't 'urt me? Youse scum is the reason why I can't afford to rent a house, why I pay so much for groceries. Youse is the peoples who is sellin' off the farm, the mines & the 'ouses to the Chinese, all for a quick buck to piss up against a wall or put frough the pokies. So don't you go tellin' me ya won't 'urt me? You is destroyin' this country and everyfing of value in it. The kind of environmental, economic & cultural vandalism we'd 'spect from people who came from convict stock. Youse can all go 'ome I say. Well you've got me in one even though I rent as well. How about you get yourself better educated, get motivated and get an attitude transplant and you'll have more money? Don't blame Australians for your personal failings. They're not just 'my' personal failings I'm afraid: http://www.actu.org.au/Media/Mediareleases/AverageFamiliesCantAffordOwnHomeNewResearch.aspx (And that report was from 2004) It's people like yourself, flag-waiving nationalists, that try and pass the buck (sorry, 'quid' keepin' wiff the cockney accent) when it's you and the culture that you're defending that is  the problem. It's against the 'Aussie' rules to "whinge" (complain) for example, consequently we pay through the nose for everything. Then there's the 'it's a roof ovva our 'eads at least' philosphy, (be it one with a premium price) that sets the standard required for 'ousing. http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/generation-rent-battles-to-get-in-the-game-20131012-2vf43.html Becoming renters is in line with our regression (the cockney didn't own 'e's own 'ome). And notice that the example we've rejected, the Americans, they 'don't' have a housing shortage. My older brother had remarked to me back in the eighties, that the Aussie dream was to own 'e's own car, not an 'ouse. The British loyalist, the Aussie, is what's bringing us down. I am a flag waving nationalist!! Join the club because you are one of the biggest anglophobic bigots on here. 'Aussies' are anglophiles, their leader Aussie tony is an anglophile  (both of their last two leaders were British born). Aussies are part of a culture whose ancestors never chose to come here. They still deep inside call England 'ome. Is they why you hate them?? It's not about hating anyone. The problem is that there can be no concessions. The Aussie is incredibly complacent, give him a break and it's "she'll be right mate" again, all over. She won't be all right. The ship is sinking (it's a boat I've been watching take water for decades now). I'm here trying to do what I consider is my duty to do. That is convince others we have a problem, what that problem is, and that there is something we can do to help. But being the worst salesman on earth, one who is faced with trying to sell success to those who reject it most, it looks as though I'm the one who's now failing big time.  So you are worried for Australian society and want to highlight the problem- white Australians of British decent. :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ But you don't hate them, but only a few posts ago you called them scum. Your post....Won't 'urt me? Youse scum is the reason why I can't afford to rent a house.  From this post you blame your life on the people that make up Australian society. True?? Are your opinions just personal??

The Aussie is beyond redemption. For one thing their loyalty is to Britain. They are nationalists, their nation is the British colony of Aussieland. If an Aussie were a true Australian, then that is what they'd call themselves. Instead they use a term that a cockney would use to denigrate someone's nationality .

Example from the British newspaper The Sun during the Falklands War:

http://archive.iwm.org.uk/upload/img_200/FalklandsTheSun1982s.jpg


And how the hell can anyone conclude that this is a personal thing? I mean are nationalists that blind that they can't see that anything at all can be wrong with this country. And by the way I'm a white Ostralian, most probably of (completely) European origins. So the race card can't be played.

So what's a true Australian??

Beautiful houses that could be reproduced if ever one day we become a wealthy nation:

The house from 'Psycho:

http://www.retroweb.com/universal/univ_psycho_house_mid_1970s_bison.jpg

Addams Family style:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Jgla7retkpg/TmJq9pMV_QI/AAAAAAAAAyw/xE4SroxVReE/s1600/Addams+Family+House.jpg

Google search - 'Queen Anne house':

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=queen+anne+house&tbm=isch&imgil=6L9Wn1snIsTGwM%253A%253Bsx8oGYohrg2-KM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fmicharch.blogspot.com%25252F2006%25252F10%25252Fsampling-of-spectacular-homes.html&source=iu&usg=__7zjm8jCjvWBXrcLudrDjSmMybxg%3D&sa=X&ei=9t32U_iREZPLsATv_oCADQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCYQ9QEwBA&biw=1024&bih=553

Shakey wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 1:37pm:

So what's a true Australian??

I don't know but if Australians ( I mean down to Earth Australians) want to have a decent future they need to start to stick together. Learn from the French how to unite and stand up against the fukking tyrants who want to rule this whole place. It's not good enough to sit in front of the TV and get pissed. There's a reason why the tyrants destroyed the Australian pub culture (anti smoking laws, mandatory breath testing, insane alcohol tax). It was designed to stop you people from getting together and talk and unite and form resistance against the fukking tyrants...They wanted to separate you so you all go home after work and be alone in front of the fukking TV.  Divide and Conquer