What's with these dudes and their head collecting fetishes ?

Are these people retarded ?

They are just trying to 'survive' in their part of the world.
When you have nothing but a pair of sandles and a few archaic weaponries against powerful and technologically advanced oppressors and invaders...
...your last line of defence short of 'outbreeding' the enemy, is to exhibit your 'animal' nature - your PRIMAL SCREAM for survival.

Remember how the Vietnamese had their women in the tunnels fighting with them and they were less well equipped technologically with weaponry and had less 'international' friends. So 'desperate times need desperate measures' and even trying to 'scare' the enemy is a tactic. Look at all the EX-VIET VETS and how 'traumatic' everything was over there for them. Something must have worked for the Vietnamese  ;)

Current USA soldiers aren't as emotionally affected by the tactics of Moslems, because they are not as 'closely combative and interactive' with them. Instead - most Military action against Moslems is from a SAFE and UNSEEN advantage ...hell, they even send in DRONES which may as well be called TERMINATORS  8-) ::) to do the 'dirty' work from being EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED to fighting MOSLEMS.
Just like killing a cow, for food - is now presented in an emotionally detached 'can' for the consumer.
ETC.ETC.ETC.

Throw in the fact that the MOSLEMS seek a MOSLEM leader, not a USA President to tell them how to be, etc.
Maybe a Jewish Leader may 'serve' them one day? Who knows...

...what the Germans did to the Jews,
the Moslems will do to the French.
Then the Italians will prey upon the Moslems,
who 'MAY' be protected by the Jews?
:-?  ;)  " The Lamb will lay down with the Lion"

Maybe Australia is what is needed, to present a Moslem who is 'Individual' enough to not only detach himself from a far-away place that seems very 'team orientated' (safety in numbers)? But can show International understanding in a part of the world, more known for breeding Jews rather than making them rich.  ;)

So when Aliens invade your World and all that you have left is your primal instincts (even if - bent by Religion, like the English were bent in their doings by Politics).
Maybe beheading your Alien Enemy is the last resort you have to say LEAVE ME THE @#%& ALONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look how Saudi Arabia condemns head hacking but that's how they execute their own prisoners by law.


http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/20/opinion/ghitis-isis-foley-beheading/index.html


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There are few people on Earth who are not horrified by ISIS. That includes the overwhelming majority of Muslims. The grand mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdul Aziz al-Sheikh, called ISIS and al Qaeda "Enemy No. 1" of Islam. Countless Muslims have criticized and condemned them.

Cutting off heads is normal practice amongst Arabs.

They are barbaric people from the dark ages & all because of a stupid old book.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 21^st, 2014 at 11:39pm:

Cutting off heads is normal practice amongst Arabs. They are barbaric people from the dark ages & all because of a stupid old book.

Bomb 'em and bomb 'em high - let Allah sort 'em out.

I'm amazed that anyone could somehow justify the brutal murder of an innocent man as being somehow in accord with some idea that the killer is defending self against aliens....

Just goes to show how primitive and backward these fools are, and how little they can be compromised or negotiated with.

When Saudi Arabia takes up arms against ISIS, I'll believe them.

I've been thinking of reviving some of our older European values, I have had a few nooks made beside the front door, now I just needs some heads. Heads should only be taken in battle! Who wants a fight? Skol! ;)

- Muslims and their head collecting fetishes -



They are all bound for Allah's 'paradise' - HELL.

My best guess, is that 'HELL', is a place where the wicked will enjoy the 'pleasure' of their own company.

If you think that your physical body is a [form of] prison, wait until you get to 'HELL'.           :o





I believe that in our world [within this 'reality'], both good and evil can exist [in close proximity to each other], and both good and evil can find 'expression' - IN OURSELVES, IN OUR CHOICES.

We are expected [by our creator] to be smart enough to eventually choose, to [try to] separate ourselves from what is evil.

If we refuse to seek to separate ourselves from evil, more and more, we will be overwhelmed [spiritually] by the evil.

We will become, what the evil is.

Proximity will do that.




Separation, is redemption.

I've been there.

And i want to return again.

Bliss.

Living in the presence of 'God'.





Revelation 22:11
He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14  Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15  For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.



Numbers 16:5
And he spake unto Korah and unto all his company, saying, Even to morrow the LORD will shew who are his, and who is holy; and will cause him to come near unto him: even him whom he hath chosen will he cause to come near unto him.

Yadda wrote on Aug 21^st, 2014 at 11:49pm:

If you think that your physical body is a [form of] prison, wait until you get to 'HELL'.           :o

What will I be locked into in hell? Someone else's body? Not yours of course, you will be in heaven with all the other hypocrites like Muslims and Jews fighting like you do now.

Then all you religious people can fight the war in heaven...

Choose your quote from:
http://www.openbible.info/topics/war_in_heaven
So much for heaven being nice.

Whatever, Setanta.       ::)

Any Moslem leader presented by Islam,
is 'cut down' to size by Western (and Jewish) efforts.

The only Moslem empowered is the 'Family' Man and as a 'team effort'. Of course 'Family Men' are not the sharpest blades in the kitchen set and hence they do what they do as they do.

Maybe if Australia presented an 'Australian Moslem Leader', who can take responsibility of 'leadership' without having his head shot off by USA/Jews...  :-?

Moslems: People without a Leader (A body that fights without a Brain). So if USA/Jews don't like Moslems having a LEADER in the MIDDLE-EAST.
Then maybe they can have one from AUSTRALIA as a good responsible set of example.  :-?

WHAT SAY YOU?!  >:(

Yadda wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 12:10am:

Whatever, Setanta.       ::)

You're such a tease! Come on, what awaits me? I know you can tell me...

When you've told me, I'll have one further question depending on your answer.

Jasin wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 12:12am:

Any Moslem leader presented by Islam, is 'cut down' to size by Western (and Jewish) efforts. The only Moslem empowered is the 'Family' Man and as a 'team effort'. Of course 'Family Men' are not the sharpest blades in the kitchen set and hence they do what they do as they do. Maybe if Australia presented an 'Australian Moslem Leader', who can take responsibility of 'leadership' without having his head shot off by USA/Jews...  :-? Moslems: People without a Leader (A body that fights without a Brain). So if USA/Jews don't like Moslems having a LEADER in the MIDDLE-EAST. Then maybe they can have one from AUSTRALIA as a good responsible set of example.  :-? WHAT SAY YOU?!  >:(

What say I? You're a loon. At least I could make some kind of sense out of that post, that unusual, and refreshing.

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 21^st, 2014 at 9:49pm:

What's with these dudes and their head collecting fetishes ? Are these people retarded ?

Socially, they are extremely. Their traditions are 700 years behind the modern world. At least when the French did it, they used a guillotine and made it quick and painless.

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 12:52am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 9:49pm: What's with these dudes and their head collecting fetishes ? Are these people retarded ? Socially, they are extremely. Their traditions are 700 years behind the modern world. At least when the French did it, they used a guillotine and made it quick and painless.

It's not what you do but the way that you do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8fCXNTCWig#t=80

...and yet the 'Darkies' still outbreed you, have bigger penises than you and have a higher ratio of males to females than you (who is a pussy-whipped whitey).
Everything will work out when only Darkie Males and Whitey Females are left in the world.  ;) ;D
...for want of one little White Boy sitting on a Throne next to his Black girl yelling "I'm the King of the Castle!" with every technological device supporting his ...handicap. ;)

Black Groom
&
White Bride

;D

I didn't know that Jasin applauded female infanticide, which accounts for males outnumbering females in third world "darkie" regions.

That's because the pussy-whipped White boys are doing themselves in when they get their shopping bills for a higher cost of living  ;D

Jasin wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 1:02am:

...and yet the 'Darkies' still outbreed you, have bigger penises than you and have a higher ratio of males to females than you (who is a pussy-whipped whitey). Everything will work out when only Darkie Males and Whitey Females are left in the world.  ;) ;D Black Groom & White Bride ;D

Dunno that you are correct though. I am white, married 30yr to a white woman and have 3 sons, no daughters. I seem to be kicking your hypothesis down the road like a destitute black person. ;D

Edit: You might be right to an extent though, I believe Swaggy has daughters, maybe he fits your mould.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 21^st, 2014 at 11:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 11:39pm: Cutting off heads is normal practice amongst Arabs. They are barbaric people from the dark ages & all because of a stupid old book. Bomb 'em and bomb 'em high - let Allah sort 'em out. I'm amazed that anyone could somehow justify the brutal murder of an innocent man as being somehow in accord with some idea that the killer is defending self against aliens.... Just goes to show how primitive and backward these fools are, and how little they can be compromised or negotiated with. When Saudi Arabia takes up arms against ISIS, I'll believe them.

Yes - why not let the Arabs sort this out with their money & troops?

The Saudi Arabians are head hacking barbarians too.

They chop anyone's head off with a sword if they lose a court case
for such "crimes" as apostasy.


That's right - if you say -

"I don't want to bang my head into the ground with my bum in the air 5 times a day "  -

it's off with his head.

Setanta wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 12:45am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:10am: Whatever, Setanta.       ::) You're such a tease! Come on, what awaits me? I know you can tell me... When you've told me, I'll have one further question depending on your answer.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338771596/56#56

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as per usual, because the human mind cannot explain a 'possibility', then a possibility is 'supposed' to be im-possible.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338771596/34#34

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I confess that i do not know 'what' the spirit is.    [...it is beyond my comprehension to know this]

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1408386686/1#1

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....i know that many people do not believe in the 'sky faerie'.

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 21^st, 2014 at 9:49pm:

What's with these dudes and their head collecting fetishes ? Are these people retarded ?

Serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer kept heads in his refrigerator, do we hold Christianity responsible for that? I mean he was most probably a Christian.

Religion doesn't really come in to what's going on, the battle is more to do with cultural & ideological conflicts. The encroaching liberality of the west vs conservative middle eastern fanaticism.  Fearmales vs Patriarchs.

GA wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 10:25am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 9:49pm: What's with these dudes and their head collecting fetishes ? Are these people retarded ? Serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer kept heads in his refrigerator, do we hold Christianity responsible for that? I mean he was most probably a Christian. Religion doesn't really come in to what's going on, the battle is more to do with cultural & ideological conflicts. The encroaching liberality of the west vs conservative middle eastern fanaticism.  Fearmales vs Patriarchs.

I read somewhere that Dahmer was a fierce Christian. But, even then, I highly doubt that his beheading of people were things to do with his religion. More to do with mental deformity. Middle Easterner, even though they don't all do it, do behead people at a far higher frequency because it is part of their extremist culture. I believe that there is tacit approval amongst the moderate to let this sort of thing happen unpunished.

Setanta wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 12:48am:

Jasin wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 12:12am: Any Moslem leader presented by Islam, is 'cut down' to size by Western (and Jewish) efforts. The only Moslem empowered is the 'Family' Man and as a 'team effort'. Of course 'Family Men' are not the sharpest blades in the kitchen set and hence they do what they do as they do. Maybe if Australia presented an 'Australian Moslem Leader', who can take responsibility of 'leadership' without having his head shot off by USA/Jews...  :-? Moslems: People without a Leader (A body that fights without a Brain). So if USA/Jews don't like Moslems having a LEADER in the MIDDLE-EAST. Then maybe they can have one from AUSTRALIA as a good responsible set of example.  :-? WHAT SAY YOU?!  >:( What say I? You're a loon. At least I could make some kind of sense out of that post, that unusual, and refreshing.

You made sense of it????   well done!

I gave up even reading jasin's posts days ago.  Don't even try any more.  :)

GA wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 10:25am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 9:49pm: What's with these dudes and their head collecting fetishes ? Are these people retarded ? Serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer kept heads in his refrigerator, do we hold Christianity responsible for that? I mean he was most probably a Christian.

;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh yes, let's compare a psychopathic faggot, to beheading innocent journalists.

King FriYAY II wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 2:43pm:

GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 10:25am: Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 9:49pm: What's with these dudes and their head collecting fetishes ? Are these people retarded ? Serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer kept heads in his refrigerator, do we hold Christianity responsible for that? I mean he was most probably a Christian. ;D ;D ;D ;D Oh yes, let's compare a psychopathic faggot, to beheading innocent journalists.

What about a psychopathic faggot to a Muslim madman?

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/8/22/1408677722580/monu.jpg

We was once a savage lot, in this continent...   ::)

GA wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 10:25am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 9:49pm: What's with these dudes and their head collecting fetishes ? Are these people retarded ? Serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer kept heads in his refrigerator, do we hold Christianity responsible for that? I mean he was most probably a Christian. Religion doesn't really come in to what's going on, the battle is more to do with cultural & ideological conflicts. The encroaching liberality of the west vs conservative middle eastern fanaticism.  Fearmales vs Patriarchs.

I think you are not being sensible there.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 8:00pm:

GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 10:25am: Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 9:49pm: What's with these dudes and their head collecting fetishes ? Are these people retarded ? Serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer kept heads in his refrigerator, do we hold Christianity responsible for that? I mean he was most probably a Christian. Religion doesn't really come in to what's going on, the battle is more to do with cultural & ideological conflicts. The encroaching liberality of the west vs conservative middle eastern fanaticism.  Fearmales vs Patriarchs. I think you are not being sensible there.

It all comes down to our chromosomes, ya see. The left is taking over, patriarchal values are being eliminated. The West represents these new-age values, whereas places like the Mid East, being cut off from influences like TV for a long time, have held on to their patriarchies. They are fighting a losing battle however, because the patriarchs are dying, natural attrition eliminating all of the older generation. To be replaced by people who in many cases have never as much as had a father, but regardless have been subject to the feminization process anyhow. 

King FriYAY II wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 2:43pm:

GA wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 10:25am: Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 9:49pm: What's with these dudes and their head collecting fetishes ? Are these people retarded ? Serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer kept heads in his refrigerator, do we hold Christianity responsible for that? I mean he was most probably a Christian. ;D ;D ;D ;D Oh yes, let's compare a psychopathic faggot, to beheading innocent journalists.

There isn't any comparison. But so what, blaming religion for these troubles would be something akin to blaming communism for the JFK assassination (Lee Oswald was a communist). 

it appears GA is not being sensible.

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 6:05pm:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/8/22/1408677722580/monu.jpg We was once a savage lot, in this continent...   ::)

Yes - our history is appalling - good point -

white people in Australia were head hunters too.

Maybe we should partake in an eye for an eye, no hang on make that a head for a head.

Next time some poor hostage gets his head cut off, find a senior muslim and go cut his head off??

GA wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 10:25am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 21st, 2014 at 9:49pm: What's with these dudes and their head collecting fetishes ? Are these people retarded ? Serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer kept heads in his refrigerator, do we hold Christianity responsible for that? I mean he was most probably a Christian. Religion doesn't really come in to what's going on, the battle is more to do with cultural & ideological conflicts. The encroaching liberality of the west vs conservative middle eastern fanaticism.  Fearmales vs Patriarchs.

Its always interesting to see apologists reach for an event done by a deranged serial killer or pedophile to down play the same acts perpetrated by muslims.

But they always forget one fundamental fact that is what is done by muslims is permitted in the Koran, the same act done by a westerner IE Dalmer Bundy Catholic priests etc, is punishable by life in jail or the death sentence.

See we have moved out of the stone age and towel head muslims are stuck in it and will never move out of it due to a book written by someone who had fetishes for 6yo girls

woof woof wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 10:35am:

Maybe we should partake in an eye for an eye, no hang on make that a head for a head. Next time some poor hostage gets his head cut off, find a senior muslim and go cut his head off??

An eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind.

Ghandi

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 6:05pm:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/8/22/1408677722580/monu.jpg We was once a savage lot, in this continent...   ::)

Yes Brian. Comparing 142 years to a 4 year involvement in WW1. Not really valid when you consider that the alleged 65,000 people were killed over 35 times the length of time that it took to kill 61,000 soldiers within 4 years. 457 aboriginal people died every year as a result of the frontier wars between 1788 and 1930. I wonder how many white people died as a result? Likely that settlers were getting sick of being attacked by aborigines and sought protection from these raids by organising raids themselves.

I doubt that you would stand back and try sympathise with an attacker for attacking your family, just because they are aboriginal.

woof woof wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 10:35am:

Maybe we should partake in an eye for an eye, no hang on make that a head for a head. Next time some poor hostage gets his head cut off, find a senior muslim and go cut his head off??

Reality check:

Latest news from ABC24 -
air attacks stepped up on ISIS by Obama after James Foley's head is cut off.

That's how the West deals with head collecting fetishes.

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That's how the West deals with head collecting fetishes.

It's hardly unique to this current bunch of dickheads.

It had a bit of a following in 'Nam.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/OmcNoZ0DTbeS6ZizX0DY_BeheadedVCVietnamGIMay1968.jpg

We didn't need to see a picture.

It seems that head hunting is a common human trait.

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 21^st, 2014 at 9:49pm:

What's with these dudes and their head collecting fetishes ? Are these people retarded ?

I thought you lefties were always saying we needed cultural enrichment,the lefties claim all cultures are equal.

If you leave Islam the penalty is getting your head chopped off-

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A man who turned his back from Islam was brought to Abu Musa,he invited him to repent for 20 days or about so,Musa then invited him to embrace Islam but he refused so he was beheaded. sunnah.com/abudawud/40/6

Allah the most merciful of those who show mercy approves with chopping heads off.

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Allah speaking listen up- So when you meet those who disbelieve ,strike their necks until you have inflicted slaughter upon them. And if Allah willed,he could have taken vengeance upon them himself,but he ordered armed struggle to test some of you. quran.com/47/4

The Saudis (muslims face Mecca when they pray) have been chopping heads off for 1400 years.

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 1:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 6:05pm: http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/8/22/1408677722580/monu.jpg We was once a savage lot, in this continent...   ::) Yes Brian. Comparing 142 years to a 4 year involvement in WW1. Not really valid when you consider that the alleged 65,000 people were killed over 35 times the length of time that it took to kill 61,000 soldiers within 4 years. 457 aboriginal people died every year as a result of the frontier wars between 1788 and 1930. I wonder how many white people died as a result? Likely that settlers were getting sick of being attacked by aborigines and sought protection from these raids by organising raids themselves. I doubt that you would stand back and try sympathise with an attacker for attacking your family, just because they are aboriginal.

***WHOOSH***, right over your head.  The cartoon was making it clear that Tone Rabbit's claims about head taking not being a part of our culture is wrong, not the number of casualties by providing a context and a contrast to his remarks.

As to my sympathies, it would depend on the circumstance.  I'd at least make an effort to understand their viewpoint, as I would hope they would make an effort to understand mine.  It's all about reconciliation, now isn't it?  Not about perpetuating the mistakes and the wrongs of the past.    ::)

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 3:26pm:

We didn't need to see a picture. It seems that head hunting is a common human trait.

To me, there is a difference between taking a head of a dead enemy after battle to taking the head of civilians or prisoners by large knife just for the sake of it.

Headhunting during war happens more than it probably should but slicing the heads off living unarmed people in the town square is a whole different level.

Setanta wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 6:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23rd, 2014 at 3:26pm: We didn't need to see a picture. It seems that head hunting is a common human trait. To me, there is a difference between taking a head of a dead enemy after battle to taking the head of civilians or prisoners by large knife just for the sake of it. Headhunting during war happens more than it probably should but slicing the heads off living unarmed people in the town square is a whole different level.

Yes indeed - in Foley's case he was beheaded while still alive.

How grotesque is that?

Life_goes_on wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 2:32pm:

Quote: That's how the West deals with head collecting fetishes. It's hardly unique to this current bunch of dickheads. It had a bit of a following in 'Nam. http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/OmcNoZ0DTbeS6ZizX0DY_BeheadedVCVietnamGIMay1968.jpg

One tent - I believe 7RAR - had a skull from the Long Tan battlefield in the tent.....

War does funny things to people.

What happened to James Foley is a sign of the End Times.

Looks like Jesus will turn up any day now for his 1000 year reign.

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 5:41pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 23rd, 2014 at 1:57pm: Brian Ross wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 6:05pm: http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/8/22/1408677722580/monu.jpg We was once a savage lot, in this continent...   ::) Yes Brian. Comparing 142 years to a 4 year involvement in WW1. Not really valid when you consider that the alleged 65,000 people were killed over 35 times the length of time that it took to kill 61,000 soldiers within 4 years. 457 aboriginal people died every year as a result of the frontier wars between 1788 and 1930. I wonder how many white people died as a result? Likely that settlers were getting sick of being attacked by aborigines and sought protection from these raids by organising raids themselves. I doubt that you would stand back and try sympathise with an attacker for attacking your family, just because they are aboriginal. ***WHOOSH***, right over your head.  The cartoon was making it clear that Tone Rabbit's claims about head taking not being a part of our culture is wrong, not the number of casualties by providing a context and a contrast to his remarks.

I'm well aware of what the context of the cartoon was about. It was about tarring the rest of the country over the mistakes of the few in our country. Simply because they may have died within our borders. It doesn't make us a bunch of head hunters, now does it? But trying to disseminate misinformation about 65,000 aboriginals getting killed and implying evasively that they were all beheaded, that's getting really rough.

I have seen the videos of people getting beheaded. Obviously, the extreme shock factor is what the executioners (read: murderers) are trying to get from the audience. The whole process is a painful one, and one that doesn't stop after the head has been taken off the shoulders. The murderer's reason? Because the journalist was from a country where their military has been interfering with their brutal traditions. Hence more culture of brutality as punishment.


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As to my sympathies, it would depend on the circumstance.  I'd at least make an effort to understand their viewpoint, as I would hope they would make an effort to understand mine.  It's all about reconciliation, now isn't it?  Not about perpetuating the mistakes and the wrongs of the past.    ::)

Oh please, Brian. Mr Munga kicks down your door. Has a machete at hand, and starts chopping up your family. Do you sit there debating some historical context of what his ancestors have been through, or do you immediately take up arms against him in some sort of defensive strategy, and try and subdue him? The idea of letting an attacker win over the victim, because the attacker is from such and such ethnicity, is such rubbish that I doubt that the lords had it exclusively their way over the peasants of middle aged England. You debate the context, after it's all over. Personally, if someone used their racial background as an excuse for criminality, I would just chalk that one up to being another reason to not let people use the race card.

"Ackbah" is really stringing you along, Brian.

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 9:31pm:

I'm well aware of what the context of the cartoon was about. It was about tarring the rest of the country over the mistakes of the few in our country.

Was it?  I thought it was mocking the Prime Minister's claim that we've never had such things in "our country".   ;D


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Simply because they may have died within our borders. It doesn't make us a bunch of head hunters, now does it?

Ah, but the taking of heads does, don't you think and that was the very point the cartoon was making - white colonists did take heads.  They often shipped them off to European scientific institutions for "study" and display.  Rather similar in principle to what the Salafists do, when they make a video of their head taking, don't you think?


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But trying to disseminate misinformation about 65,000 aboriginals getting killed and implying evasively that they were all beheaded, that's getting really rough.

Is it?  Why?   No more than the implication that many here draw from what the Islamists have done and blame all Muslims.  Rather in the way Tone Rabbit has implied that blame be passed to all Muslims by suggesting that Muslims need to join "Team Australia"...   ::)


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[quote]As to my sympathies, it would depend on the circumstance.  I'd at least make an effort to understand their viewpoint, as I would hope they would make an effort to understand mine.  It's all about reconciliation, now isn't it?  Not about perpetuating the mistakes and the wrongs of the past.    ::)

Oh please, Brian. Mr Munga kicks down your door. Has a machete at hand, and starts chopping up your family. Do you sit there debating some historical context of what his ancestors have been through, or do you immediately take up arms against him in some sort of defensive strategy, and try and subdue him? The idea of letting an attacker win over the victim, because the attacker is from such and such ethnicity, is such rubbish that I doubt that the lords had it exclusively their way over the peasants of middle aged England. You debate the context, after it's all over. Personally, if someone used their racial background as an excuse for criminality, I would just chalk that one up to being another reason to not let people use the race card.
[/quote]

Appears you have a reading comprehension problem.  What part of "it would depend on the circumstance," didn't you understand?  If my family or myself was being directly threatened, then obviously I would attempt to defend them and myself.   However, if Mr. Munga knocked on my door and asked whether I supported the theft of his land/the destruction of his culture/the destruction of his family/etc., I would speak to him as civilly as he had asked the question.


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"Ackbah" is really stringing you along, Brian.

Who's "Ackbah"?   Is he a relation of Mr.Munga?   ::)

When was the last time there was a beheading in Australia? I know of two that happened in my town. One was 9 years ago, by a group of Jihadists who didn't like one of their own befriending an infidel. The other was practically a beheading, because the assailants (who, incidentally, converted to Islam in gaol) killed the guy by digging in to his neck with a bowie and leaving his head near severed. Posting up a cartoon about the slaying of aborigines is not going to change my mind about beheadings of people in the Middle East as being a cultural modus operandi.

I'm talking about with the intentional removal of people's heads in the 21st century Australia. Include the 20th century, if you want. I don't believe you about the 19th and 18th century. Do you have an example within the last 3 centuries of an actual person (named) who has committed a beheading on anyone. Bonus points if the person you are talking about is caucasian. I can only name one, and he got off lightly on a mental incapacitation plea.

And whilst you are right to say that because some Middle Easterners do behead people with no apparent remorse, that it doesn't make them all a bunch of crazed psychopaths... that completely misses the point. You might not be aware that those regions deem the infanticide of their children to not being barbaric. They will slit the throats of deformed or handicapped children. They would probably take the life of some black or white child simply on the basis that they aren't Middle Eastern. I wouldn't trust a non-secular region of the world simply starting with the basis that they have no problem prosecuting someone for having alcohol or prosecuting someone for reporting a rape against herself.

As for Mr Munga, the situation is that he has kicked down the door and is ready to see what your insides look like. But as an alternative interpretation, let's say he has knocked politely on your door, with machete in hand, and wants to discuss Midnight Oil with you. Are you really going to have so little intuition that you wouldn't call the polisi?

Btw, "Ackbar" is the stereotypical generalisation for a Middle Eastern male who tries to condemn "The West" and the United States for all his stupid self-inflicted problems.

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One was 9 years ago, by a group of Jihadists who didn't like one of their own befriending an infidel.

link?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 8:45pm:

it appears GA is not being sensible.

Oswald was a card carrying communist, his shooting of Kennedy supposedly related to the Americans mistreatment of Cuba, the Bay of Pigs invasion. But despite 'all of the politics', actually politics did 'not' come into it at all. Oswald was an attention seeker, his motivations were psychological. The JFK assassination was in 'no' way an act that was politically motivated. 

Likewise, as I'd had it pointed out to me at the time it was happening, the fighting in Northern Ireland had nothing at all to do with religion, and everything to do with it being a class war. The working class Irish, who happened to be Catholics vs the British loyalists who happened to be protestants.

Got it now, Stupid.

At least the Yanks will stop them:


http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/21/world/meast/iraq-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t2



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Pentagon chief: ISIS 'beyond anything we have seen' (CNN) -- America's top defense officials left open the possibility of targeting ISIS fighters in Syria, saying during a news briefing Thursday that it was not enough to just hit the extremist group in Iraq. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, stopped short of calling for U.S. military action in eastern Syria, an ISIS stronghold. "Can they be defeated without addressing that part of the organization that resides in Syria? The answer is no," Dempsey said during the briefing at the Pentagon. Repeatedly pushed by reporters about whether that meant operations against ISIS in Syria, Hagel said, "We're looking at all options."

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 9:08am:

Quote: One was 9 years ago, by a group of Jihadists who didn't like one of their own befriending an infidel. link?

Off the record, kind of thing.

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 1:30am:

When was the last time there was a beheading in Australia? I know of two that happened in my town. One was 9 years ago, by a group of Jihadists who didn't like one of their own befriending an infidel. The other was practically a beheading, because the assailants (who, incidentally, converted to Islam in gaol) killed the guy by digging in to his neck with a bowie and leaving his head near severed. Posting up a cartoon about the slaying of aborigines is not going to change my mind about beheadings of people in the Middle East as being a cultural modus operandi.

It wasn't intended to.  It was intended to point out the contradictions between what The Dear Leader was claiming and what actually happened.   ::)


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I'm talking about with the intentional removal of people's heads in the 21st century Australia. Include the 20th century, if you want. I don't believe you about the 19th and 18th century. Do you have an example within the last 3 centuries of an actual person (named) who has committed a beheading on anyone. Bonus points if the person you are talking about is caucasian. I can only name one, and he got off lightly on a mental incapacitation plea.

John Fleming
John Russell
James Lamb
John Blake
William Hawkins
Edward Foley
John (Black) Johnstone
George Palliser
James Oates (Hall’s Jemmy)
Charles Telluse
James Parry.

Were all placed on trial for the Myall Creek Massacre where Aborigines (primarily children) were beheaded.  All were Caucasian.  This occurred in the last 300 years, in Australia.   Did I get all my points?   ::)


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And whilst you are right to say that because some Middle Easterners do behead people with no apparent remorse, that it doesn't make them all a bunch of crazed psychopaths... that completely misses the point. You might not be aware that those regions deem the infanticide of their children to not being barbaric. They will slit the throats of deformed or handicapped children. They would probably take the life of some black or white child simply on the basis that they aren't Middle Eastern. I wouldn't trust a non-secular region of the world simply starting with the basis that they have no problem prosecuting someone for having alcohol or prosecuting someone for reporting a rape against herself.

You are relying on stereotypes.  The Middle East is a big place, with multiple cultures and societies in it, it stretches from North Africa to Turkey and Iraq and down to Oman.


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As for Mr Munga, the situation is that he has kicked down the door and is ready to see what your insides look like. But as an alternative interpretation, let's say he has knocked politely on your door, with machete in hand, and wants to discuss Midnight Oil with you. Are you really going to have so little intuition that you wouldn't call the polisi?

Again, it depends on the circumstance.  If Mr. Munga has just come from working in the Cane Fields, I wouldn't be surprised to see a machete in his hand.   I would be at most cautious, as I would be with anyone who came to the door with a bloody big knife in his hand but I wouldn't necessarily automatically assume that beyond desiring a discussion over an issue which concerns him, that anything was overly amiss.


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Btw, "Ackbar" is the stereotypical generalisation for a Middle Eastern male who tries to condemn "The West" and the United States for all his stupid self-inflicted problems.

It is?  It's the first time I've heard the term.  Perhaps we just move in different circles?   Same as I've never heard the term, "Mr.Munga" before.

Did you know that back in WWI when the Arabs were helping France in the war... they didn't really believe they killed a man even when shot and dead until they cut his head off?

Weird hey?

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 7:11pm:

Were all placed on trial for the Myall Creek Massacre

"After two trials, seven of the 11 colonists involved in the killings were found guilty of murder and hanged.

i.e. NOT part of the culture, you silly ass.

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 12:52am:

Tone Rabbit has implied that blame be passed to all Muslims by suggesting that Muslims need to join "Team Australia"...   ::)

Don't they?  They do. Yet some Muslim organisation took exception to that expectation and boycotted a meeting with Abbott  because he wanted them all to be together with the rest of Australia against Islamists.

WHat's wrong with that?

As usual Soren, your bigotry has you so far in it's grip that you can't even consider the possibility that Australian Muslims are already in Team Australia.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 7:40pm:

As usual Soren, your bigotry has you so far in it's grip that you can't even consider the possibility that Australian Muslims are already in Team Australia.   ::)

some may be. Many aren't. The black flag jihadis rampaging  in Sydney and their supporters aren't. The ones hot for jihad and their supporters and funders aren't. They are out of the team because they are in the enemy team.
There are enemies of this country and of the west, you know, not just friends whose grievances we haven't accommodated yet.

Soren wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 8:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 7:40pm: As usual Soren, your bigotry has you so far in it's grip that you can't even consider the possibility that Australian Muslims are already in Team Australia.   ::) some may be. Many aren't. The black flag jihadis is rampaging  in Sydney and their supporters aren't.

Hyperbole, Soren?   Jihadis are not "rampaging in Sydney".

You acknowledge that only some are in "Team Australia" and many aren't.  I'd suggest it's the other way 'round - most are, a few aren't.

Tone Rabbit definitely has no management skills if he thinks the best way to recruit new team members is to berate them all the time.  However, the major difference between you and him is that he actually wants Muslims to join him, even if he is clumsily going about it.  You openly reject all Muslims, no matter what their loyalty may be, prejudging them before they say or do anything.   ::)

What I and everyone acknowledge is that the ones who are NOT in the team are motivated by Islam.

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 7:40pm:

As usual Soren, your bigotry has you so far in it's grip that you can't even consider the possibility that Australian Muslims are already in Team Australia.   ::)

BWAhahahahahaha ....... yeah that's a good one.

Muslims are here for themselves and they contribute only to themselves and their communities. They're here to spread their community as far as it can go knowing full well that Australia is up for the taking thanks to traitor politicians and their supporters.

Personally, I don't want them to contribute or assimilate I just want them to leave our country.

Soren wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 8:49pm:

What I and everyone acknowledge is that the ones who are NOT in the team are motivated by Islam.

As are those who are.  Interesting contradiction there.  Both groups claim that they are motivated by Islam.   Rather like how Christians in the 30 years war, both Catholics and Protestants claimed they were motivated by their Christianity when fighting and slaughtering each other.  Could it be a matter of interpretation, Soren?   You seem very rigid in your views on Islam, you assume all Muslims are monolithic in their beliefs.  It suits you to portray Islam and Muslims in this way, it makes your bigotry easier.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 8:44pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 8:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 7:40pm: As usual Soren, your bigotry has you so far in it's grip that you can't even consider the possibility that Australian Muslims are already in Team Australia.   ::) some may be. Many aren't. The black flag jihadis is rampaging  in Sydney and their supporters aren't. Hyperbole, Soren?   Jihadis are not "rampaging in Sydney". ... You openly reject all Muslims, no matter what their loyalty may be, prejudging them before they say or do anything.   ::)

They did rampage through Sydney.


And I reject only the ones who unreservedly believe the Koran, hadiths and in Mohammed's example and want sharia.

Soren wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 8:49pm:

What I and everyone acknowledge is that the ones who are NOT in the team are motivated by Islam.

I hope everyone on Ozpolitic is part of the team?

Soren wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 9:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 8:44pm: Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 8:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 7:40pm: As usual Soren, your bigotry has you so far in it's grip that you can't even consider the possibility that Australian Muslims are already in Team Australia.   ::) some may be. Many aren't. The black flag jihadis is rampaging  in Sydney and their supporters aren't. Hyperbole, Soren?   Jihadis are not "rampaging in Sydney". ... You openly reject all Muslims, no matter what their loyalty may be, prejudging them before they say or do anything.   ::) They did rampage through Sydney.

Did they?  You should have no difficulty linking to the media reports, then, Soren.  Where are they?   ::)


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And I reject only the ones who unreservedly believe the Koran, hadiths and in Mohammed's example and want sharia.

Do you reject Jews who want Rabbinical courts?   Christians who want clerical courts?   'cause we've got both of those in Australia.

Do you reject Jews who believe unreservedly in the Torah?  Christians who unreservedly believe in The Bible?  'cause we've got both of those in Australia.

No, you only attack Muslims for their religious beliefs.  You persecute them, Soren for their religious beliefs, no matter what they might be or how they express them.  Hang a sign on a person with the word "Muslim" on it and you hate them!   ::)

Bobby. wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 10:28pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 8:49pm: What I and everyone acknowledge is that the ones who are NOT in the team are motivated by Islam. I hope everyone on Ozpolitic is part of the team?

I play for the other Team Australia, the one not led by Tone Rabbit.  ;)

I told you, Brain, not all Muslims and not regardless of their beliefs. Stop being a spineless distorter as well as a craven apologist.
I am against jihad, sharia and every other aspect of Islam that is against freedom and dignity and enlightened human life.

Freedom, dignity and enlightened human life?

Yes, but not human, old boy. And not enlightened. Better scrap freedom.  Oh, and I’m afraid dignity will have to go too. You gave all those up years ago. Scrap the lot.

There you go, old chap, you are against everything that is against everything.

Much better.

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 12:14am:

Freedom, dignity and enlightened human life? Yes, but not human, old boy. And not enlightened. Better scrap freedom.  Oh, and I’m afraid dignity will have to go too. You gave all those up years ago. Scrap the lot. There you go, old chap, you are against everything that is against everything. Much better.

You are nuttier than squirrel shite, PB.

Another poor journalist has had his head cut off:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/02/world/meast/isis-american-journalist-sotloff/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


Quote:

ISIS video shows beheading of American journalist Steven Sotloff By Josh Levs and Ashley Fantz, CNN September 2, 2014 -- Updated 1924 GMT (0324 HKT) (CNN) -- The ISIS terror group has published a video titled "A second message to America," showing the beheading of American journalist Steven Sotloff. The video also threatens the life of British captive David Haines. Sotloff speaks to the camera before he is killed, saying he is "paying the price" for U.S. intervention. Considering he was a captive, it's possible that his words were scripted for him. The masked ISIS figure in the video speaks to U.S. President Barack Obama, telling him, "Just as your missiles continue to strike our people, our knife will continue to strike the necks of your people."

ISIS has to be wiped off the face of the earth.

They are worse than Nazis.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 5:40am:

Another poor journalist has had his head cut off: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/02/world/meast/isis-american-journalist-sotloff/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Quote: ISIS video shows beheading of American journalist Steven Sotloff By Josh Levs and Ashley Fantz, CNN September 2, 2014 -- Updated 1924 GMT (0324 HKT) (CNN) -- The ISIS terror group has published a video titled "A second message to America," showing the beheading of American journalist Steven Sotloff. The video also threatens the life of British captive David Haines. Sotloff speaks to the camera before he is killed, saying he is "paying the price" for U.S. intervention. Considering he was a captive, it's possible that his words were scripted for him. The masked ISIS figure in the video speaks to U.S. President Barack Obama, telling him, "Just as your missiles continue to strike our people, our knife will continue to strike the necks of your people." ISIS has to be wiped off the face of the earth. They are worse than Nazis.

Or really ?

Or really ?

Or really ?




The truth of the fact is, that those ISIS cadres that we see in Iraq/Syria today,
- ARE THE VERY SAME 'MOSLEMS' -
who only 6/12 months ago were walking past you [Bobby] on the street in Sydney/Melbourne/Brisbane.

Can't you see that ?

Why are you so 'blind' ?




IMAGE...
http://images.smh.com.au/2012/09/15/3637564/art-protest3-620x349.jpg
ISIS Abdullah and his brothers in Sydney in 2012.



IMAGE....
http://thereligionofpeace.com/index_files/happy.jpg
ISIS Abdullah and his brothers in Iraq/Syria in 2014.




Yadda said.....

Quote:

Why is it that thinking people seem unable to join the dots ? Dictionary; Muslim = = a follower of Islam. ISLAM is a murderous death cult. Yadda said.... [quote] Dictionary; Muslim = = a follower of Islam. EVERY moslem, is a follower - of ISLAM. EVERY moslem, is a member of the moslem community. And whether the moslem refers to himself as being a member of, Hamas, or the Taliban, or Al-Qaeda, or Boko Haram, or ISIS, or Al Shabaab, or [in Australia] Brothers for Life, OR SIMPLY, AS BEING A, MOSLEM; ....the moslem is a member of 'a group of people' who choose to follow a philosophy [ISLAM], which teaches them [moslems], that it is lawful for them [moslems] to seek to subjugate [i.e. enslave] or murder all of 'disbelieving' mankind.

[/quote]i
You should put the question to Tony Abbott;

Why Tony Abbott, did you and teh Australian government allow these murderers of James Foley and Steven Sotloff live among us ?




Western politicians like Tony Abbott, and Barrack Obama, and John Cameron, are responsible for the proliferation in the world of ALL ISLAMIC terrorism - BECAUSE THEY AND THEIR POLICIES TOWARDS MOSLEMS LIVING IN THE WEST - are facilitating the political empowerment of ISLAM, everywhere in the world, and especially within Western nations.

Then these moslems cadres are leaving our shores to go to places where they feel able to engage in ISLAMIC terrorism.




#1,
"What makes Allah happy?
Allah is happy, when kafir get killed."[/size]

Please watch this YT...
Muslims being deceptive Islam EX-Muslims         goto 4m 30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZx8cNSC9O0




#2,
As relating to that 'behead all those' placard, moslems, whether children or adults who display such placards in public, this moslem declares "...he [the placard holder] knows something about his religion"....

Please watch this YT...
Islamic brotherhood behind violence         goto 1m 08s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IROcJvVCpFU





#3,

Mild mannered - "We will govern for all Egyptians" - Mohammed Morsi -
Ex-President of Egypt

"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg





#4,
Please watch this YT...
ISLAM - THREE THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OzxiHfWvBGw

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 11:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 10:28pm: Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 8:49pm: What I and everyone acknowledge is that the ones who are NOT in the team are motivated by Islam. I hope everyone on Ozpolitic is part of the team? I play for the other Team Australia, the one not led by Tone Rabbit.  ;)

You would have made an excellent Rotherham official, Brain.

The Home Office researcher, who was not named by Panorama, also said she had been accused of being insensitive when she told one official that most of the perpetrators were from Rotherham’s Pakistani community.

A female colleague talked to her about the incident. “She said you must never refer to that again – you must never refer to Asian men.  (ie. you must never 'persecute them", eh, Brain?)

“And her other response was to book me on a two-day ethnicity and diversity course to raise my awareness of ethnic issues.”

The Home Office researcher said that at one point the council tried to get her sacked and the report was never published.
...
"And some of the stories that I heard very early on were just so graphic that I don't think I will ever forget them.

"I was subjected to the most intense personal hostility – there were threats made from a range of sources. I've never seen back-covering like it and I still feel extremely angry about that."
...
"He said that I were a white bitch and that he'd had enough of me and he punched me in the mouth."
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/01/home-office-rotherham-child-abuse-research-stolen-claim-panorama

Those white girls are persecuting these Pakistani Muslim men.

Soren wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 11:44pm:

I told you, Brain, not all Muslims and not regardless of their beliefs. Stop being a spineless distorter as well as a craven apologist. I am against jihad, sharia and every other aspect of Islam that is against freedom and dignity and enlightened human life.

That's a LOT of islam you are against then soren.
Given islamics all agree jihad, sharia etc are part of islam, you and I are just opposed to islam in any form.

Soren wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 11:44pm:

I told you, Brain, not all Muslims and not regardless of their beliefs. Stop being a spineless distorter as well as a craven apologist. I am against jihad, sharia and every other aspect of Islam that is against freedom and dignity and enlightened human life.

Yet you favour Christianity which is against freedom and dignity.  It was not until the enlightenment, which threw off the shackles of Christian dogma that people developed real freedom and dignity.    ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 5:40am:

Another poor journalist has had his head cut off: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/02/world/meast/isis-american-journalist-sotloff/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Quote: ISIS video shows beheading of American journalist Steven Sotloff By Josh Levs and Ashley Fantz, CNN September 2, 2014 -- Updated 1924 GMT (0324 HKT) (CNN) -- The ISIS terror group has published a video titled "A second message to America," showing the beheading of American journalist Steven Sotloff. The video also threatens the life of British captive David Haines. Sotloff speaks to the camera before he is killed, saying he is "paying the price" for U.S. intervention. Considering he was a captive, it's possible that his words were scripted for him. The masked ISIS figure in the video speaks to U.S. President Barack Obama, telling him, "Just as your missiles continue to strike our people, our knife will continue to strike the necks of your people." ISIS has to be wiped off the face of the earth. They are worse than Nazis.

I'd suggest as bad.  To be worse they'd have had to start death camps with ovens.   It took Christians to do that. 

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 11:19pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 9:07pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 8:44pm: Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 8:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 7:40pm: As usual Soren, your bigotry has you so far in it's grip that you can't even consider the possibility that Australian Muslims are already in Team Australia.   ::) some may be. Many aren't. The black flag jihadis is rampaging  in Sydney and their supporters aren't. Hyperbole, Soren?   Jihadis are not "rampaging in Sydney". ... You openly reject all Muslims, no matter what their loyalty may be, prejudging them before they say or do anything.   ::) They did rampage through Sydney. Did they?  You should have no difficulty linking to the media reports, then, Soren.  Where are they?   ::) Quote: And I reject only the ones who unreservedly believe the Koran, hadiths and in Mohammed's example and want sharia. Do you reject Jews who want Rabbinical courts?   Christians who want clerical courts?   'cause we've got both of those in Australia. Do you reject Jews who believe unreservedly in the Torah?  Christians who unreservedly believe in The Bible?  'cause we've got both of those in Australia. No, you only attack Muslims for their religious beliefs.  You persecute them, Soren for their religious beliefs, no matter what they might be or how they express them.  Hang a sign on a person with the word "Muslim" on it and you hate them!   ::)

Islam is not a religion ..... nothing that is involved in politics & all aspects of the running of the state & every facet of life is merely just a religion.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g158/gnads_2006/IslamicScholars_zps68ae9fc7.jpg

The marvels of modern Islamic belief. ::) ;D

|dev|null wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 11:08am:

Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:44pm: I told you, Brain, not all Muslims and not regardless of their beliefs. Stop being a spineless distorter as well as a craven apologist. I am against jihad, sharia and every other aspect of Islam that is against freedom and dignity and enlightened human life. Yet you favour Christianity which is against freedom and dignity.

It invented the idea of freedom and equality.

The Jews didn't have it, nor the Romans, Hindus, Buddhists or any other religion. Universal human rights, for example, are unthinkable without Christian doctrine setting the scene for them.

Soren wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 1:52pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 11:08am: Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:44pm: I told you, Brain, not all Muslims and not regardless of their beliefs. Stop being a spineless distorter as well as a craven apologist. I am against jihad, sharia and every other aspect of Islam that is against freedom and dignity and enlightened human life. Yet you favour Christianity which is against freedom and dignity.  It invented the idea of freedom and equality. The Jews didn't have it, nor the Romans, Hindus, Buddhists or any other religion. Universal human rights, for example, are unthinkable without Christian doctrine setting the scene for them.

Apart from the whole patriachical nature of it. Really say this again, I need another laugh.

These people look and sound like Yadda and Soren

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g158/gnads_2006/IslamicScholars_zps68ae9fc7.jpg

The marvels of modern Islamic belief. ::) ;D[/quote]

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 3:54pm:

These people look and sound like Yadda and Soren http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g158/gnads_2006/IslamicScholars_zps68ae9fc7.jpg The marvels of modern Islamic belief. ::) ;D

[/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Why has  Bob Dylan got a tea towel on his head in picture 3. That explains why the muslim world is f arked.

Soren wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 1:52pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 11:08am: Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:44pm: I told you, Brain, not all Muslims and not regardless of their beliefs. Stop being a spineless distorter as well as a craven apologist. I am against jihad, sharia and every other aspect of Islam that is against freedom and dignity and enlightened human life. Yet you favour Christianity which is against freedom and dignity.  It invented the idea of freedom and equality. The Jews didn't have it, nor the Romans, Hindus, Buddhists or any other religion. Universal human rights, for example, are unthinkable without Christian doctrine setting the scene for them.

And all given to us by God?

You need to stop smoking that opium!!!!    :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

That black piece of crap that's doing the ' head cutting" doesn't have the guts to show his face. It doesn't matter because he's a dead man walking. They know who he is. It's makes Islam and ISIS look  pitiful in front of the entire world.

Soren wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 11:44pm:

I told you, Brain, not all Muslims and not regardless of their beliefs. Stop being a spineless distorter as well as a craven apologist. I am against jihad, sharia and every other aspect of Islam that is against freedom and dignity and enlightened human life.

I take that is an admission you have no proof that Jihadis, "did rampage through Sydney"?

How unsurprising, Soren, yet again your hyperbole gets you carried away.

Simply because I believe Muslims should be given a "fair go" does not, except it seems in yours and FD's imagination, make me an "apologist".  Nor does it make me "spineless".   What it does mean I refuse to join in your senseless bigotry and persecution on the basis of guilt by association, Soren.

You know, you should be ashamed of yourself.  Call yourself a Christian?   ::)

Soren wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 10:45am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:19pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 10:28pm: Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 8:49pm: What I and everyone acknowledge is that the ones who are NOT in the team are motivated by Islam. I hope everyone on Ozpolitic is part of the team? I play for the other Team Australia, the one not led by Tone Rabbit.  ;) You would have made an excellent Rotherham official, Brain.

Yes, I would.  I'd have made sure every offender was locked up for their crimes of abusing children, no matter what colour, creed or gender they were, Soren.

You, OTOH, would only have locked up the Muslim offenders 'cause you believe no Christian person could commit such crimes.  Forgotten what the Catholic clergy's been up to?  Of course you have.   ::)

|dev|null wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 5:54pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 1:52pm: |dev|null wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 11:08am: Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:44pm: I told you, Brain, not all Muslims and not regardless of their beliefs. Stop being a spineless distorter as well as a craven apologist. I am against jihad, sharia and every other aspect of Islam that is against freedom and dignity and enlightened human life. Yet you favour Christianity which is against freedom and dignity.  It invented the idea of freedom and equality. The Jews didn't have it, nor the Romans, Hindus, Buddhists or any other religion. Universal human rights, for example, are unthinkable without Christian doctrine setting the scene for them. And all given to us by God? You need to stop smoking that opium!!!!    :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Nope, given to us by the Christian Church doctrines and influence.

September 2012- look it up.



Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 7:40pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:44pm: I told you, Brain, not all Muslims and not regardless of their beliefs. Stop being a spineless distorter as well as a craven apologist. I am against jihad, sharia and every other aspect of Islam that is against freedom and dignity and enlightened human life. I take that is an admission you have no proof that Jihadis, "did rampage through Sydney"? How unsurprising, Soren, yet again your hyperbole gets you carried away. Simply because I believe Muslims should be given a "fair go" does not, except it seems in yours and FD's imagination, make me an "apologist".  Nor does it make me "spineless".   What it does mean I refuse to join in your senseless bigotry and persecution on the basis of guilt by association, Soren. You know, you should be ashamed of yourself.  Call yourself a Christian?   ::)

I'm sorry, you are just too stupid to respond to other than asking you to log in as your slightly less ludicrous alter ego, Brain. He is only stupid whereas you are stupid and proud of it.



|dev|null wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 5:54pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 1:52pm: |dev|null wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 11:08am: Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:44pm: I told you, Brain, not all Muslims and not regardless of their beliefs. Stop being a spineless distorter as well as a craven apologist. I am against jihad, sharia and every other aspect of Islam that is against freedom and dignity and enlightened human life. Yet you favour Christianity which is against freedom and dignity.  It invented the idea of freedom and equality. The Jews didn't have it, nor the Romans, Hindus, Buddhists or any other religion. Universal human rights, for example, are unthinkable without Christian doctrine setting the scene for them. And all given to us by God? You need to stop smoking that opium!!!!    :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 7:40pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:44pm: I told you, Brain, not all Muslims and not regardless of their beliefs. Stop being a spineless distorter as well as a craven apologist. I am against jihad, sharia and every other aspect of Islam that is against freedom and dignity and enlightened human life. I take that is an admission you have no proof that Jihadis, "did rampage through Sydney"? How unsurprising, Soren, yet again your hyperbole gets you carried away. Simply because I believe Muslims should be given a "fair go" does not, except it seems in yours and FD's imagination, make me an "apologist".  Nor does it make me "spineless".   What it does mean I refuse to join in your senseless bigotry and persecution on the basis of guilt by association, Soren. You know, you should be ashamed of yourself.  Call yourself a Christian?   ::)

The old boy believes in turning the other cheek.

Muslims are given a fair go.
Yet some are plotting bloody mayhem in the name of Islam.
No Sikh, Taoist, catholic immigrant is plotting mayhem against Australia. Muslims do.
Please explain.




Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 7:40pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:44pm: I told you, Brain, not all Muslims and not regardless of their beliefs. Stop being a spineless distorter as well as a craven apologist. I am against jihad, sharia and every other aspect of Islam that is against freedom and dignity and enlightened human life. I take that is an admission you have no proof that Jihadis, "did rampage through Sydney"? How unsurprising, Soren, yet again your hyperbole gets you carried away. Simply because I believe Muslims should be given a "fair go" does not, except it seems in yours and FD's imagination, make me an "apologist".  Nor does it make me "spineless".   What it does mean I refuse to join in your senseless bigotry and persecution on the basis of guilt by association, Soren. You know, you should be ashamed of yourself.  Call yourself a Christian?   ::)

Soren wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 1:52pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 11:08am: Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:44pm: I told you, Brain, not all Muslims and not regardless of their beliefs. Stop being a spineless distorter as well as a craven apologist. I am against jihad, sharia and every other aspect of Islam that is against freedom and dignity and enlightened human life. Yet you favour Christianity which is against freedom and dignity.  It invented the idea of freedom and equality. The Jews didn't have it, nor the Romans, Hindus, Buddhists or any other religion. Universal human rights, for example, are unthinkable without Christian doctrine setting the scene for them.

link for any proof?

No - just someone on their soap box.

Soren wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:07pm:

September 2012- look it up.

Hardly a rampage.  I've seen bigger riots at chucking out time.   ::)

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:46pm:

Muslims are given a fair go.

By you?  Hardly, Soren.  You really are delusional if you believe what you and others here do, is giving them a "fair go"!   ::)

Quote:

Yet some are plotting bloody mayhem in the name of Islam.

Only "some"?  So why then the continual attack on ALL Muslims, Soren?  What have the non-plotters done to deserve your persecution, except share a religious name with the plotters?   ::)


Quote:

No Sikh, Taoist, catholic immigrant is plotting mayhem against Australia. Muslims do. Please explain.

The same claim was once made about Catholics, most non-British Europeans, Chinese and so on, at various times in our history, Soren.  All came in the end to nought.   The same will be shown with Muslims in 50 years time.   ::)

Soren wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:13pm:

I'm sorry, you are just too stupid to respond to other than asking you to log in as your slightly less ludicrous alter ego, Brain. He is only stupid whereas you are stupid and proud of it.

Might be a clue there, Soren.  Have you always been this paranoid?    ::)

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 10:51pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 1:52pm: |dev|null wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 11:08am: Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:44pm: I told you, Brain, not all Muslims and not regardless of their beliefs. Stop being a spineless distorter as well as a craven apologist. I am against jihad, sharia and every other aspect of Islam that is against freedom and dignity and enlightened human life. Yet you favour Christianity which is against freedom and dignity.  It invented the idea of freedom and equality. The Jews didn't have it, nor the Romans, Hindus, Buddhists or any other religion. Universal human rights, for example, are unthinkable without Christian doctrine setting the scene for them. link for any proof? No - just someone on their soap box.

bobby,

Here is an argument, with some evidence....


Yadda said....

Quote:

Judaism and Christianity, and many other religions of men, accept that principle, of the ideal of human 'reciprocity'. But one religion does not embrace that principle. One religion ABSOLUTELY REFUSES to embrace that principle. The principle of reciprocity [i.e. egalitarianism in law] is rejected by ISLAM, and therefore, by all moslems. [n.b. a moslem, being a person who embraces the tenets and laws of ISLAM.] Why is that stated proposition, above, true? It is true, because ISLAMIC law does not allow such reciprocity [in law] - EXCEPT BETWEEN MOSLEMS. The ummah [the worldwide moslem community] are a closed community [in law, i.e. in moslem law]. To ISLAM [to good moslems!], all human beings outside the ummah have the status of cattle. Those outside the ummah [i.e. human beings who are non-moslems] can live, while they are 'useful' to moslems, but they are not 'protected' [in law]. as is expressed per.... "....those who reject Allah have no protector." Koran 47.008 v. 8-11 Non-moslems have no equal protection [no equality with a moslem] in law, in any ISLAMIC jurisdiction. e.g. A non-moslem cannot testify against a moslem in a Sharia court, because the testimony of a non-moslem is not accepted as truthful, solely because he is a non-moslem. Moslems, ISLAM, discriminate [unjustly and unequally] against those who are not moslems. Q. AND WHY ??? A. BECAUSE IT IS 'UNLAWFUL' WITHIN A SHARIA JURISDICTION FOR A MOSLEM AND A NON-MOSLEM TO BE TREATED AS EQUALS, IN LAW. +++ n.b. This principle of reciprocity [i.e. egalitarianism in law] is a principle which has been embraced within all societies which have been influenced by Judaeo/Christian ethics [the ethics taught in OT & NT scripture]. And it cannot be denied, that this principle of reciprocity [i.e. egalitarianism in law] is a principle 'pillar' of ancient Judaic law, i.e. OT law in the Bible, the law of God which was given to Moses.... Exodus 12:49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you. Exodus 22:21 Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him... Exodus 23:9 Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger... Leviticus 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. 34  But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself... Leviticus 25:47-49 [these verses clearly speak of [and reveal that it was entirely 'lawful'] for Hebrews [themselves] to become bond servants [slaves], to prosperous strangers living among the Hebrews.] Deuteronomy 1:16 And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him. Deuteronomy 10:17-19 For the LORD your God... loveth the stranger, ...Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt. Deuteronomy 24:17 Thou shalt not pervert the judgment of the stranger, nor of the fatherless; nor take a widow's raiment to pledge: 18  But thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in Egypt, and the LORD thy God redeemed thee thence: therefore I command thee to do this thing. Deuteronomy 27:19 Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger...

Dear  Yadda,
try reading Lev 13:13 for another take.

forgiven

namaste

Leviticus 13:13
Then the priest shall consider: and, behold, if the leprosy have covered all his flesh, he shall pronounce him clean that hath the plague: it is all turned white: he is clean.





bobby,

You need to give that EVILBIBLE.COM a miss,       and brush up on your own scripture skill.


forgiven

namaste

Yadda wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 11:37am:

Leviticus 13:13 Then the priest shall consider: and, behold, if the leprosy have covered all his flesh, he shall pronounce him clean that hath the plague: it is all turned white: he is clean. bobby, You need to give that EVILBIBLE.COM a miss,       and brush up on your own scripture skill. forgiven namaste

That's right, Bobbie. You need to get with the program and brush up on your own scripture skill with Jihadwatch and Islamthereligionofpeace.

Yadda wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 12:03am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2014 at 10:51pm: Soren wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 1:52pm: |dev|null wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 11:08am: Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:44pm: I told you, Brain, not all Muslims and not regardless of their beliefs. Stop being a spineless distorter as well as a craven apologist. I am against jihad, sharia and every other aspect of Islam that is against freedom and dignity and enlightened human life. Yet you favour Christianity which is against freedom and dignity.  It invented the idea of freedom and equality. The Jews didn't have it, nor the Romans, Hindus, Buddhists or any other religion. Universal human rights, for example, are unthinkable without Christian doctrine setting the scene for them. link for any proof? No - just someone on their soap box. bobby, Here is an argument, with some evidence....

True, Y. Some say Jesus said to turn the other cheek.

It's a pretty unreliable source though.

Best to go with Jesus' advice to kill em all and let Gud sort it out.

Karnal wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 1:58pm:

True, Y. Some say Jesus said to turn the other cheek. It's a pretty unreliable source though. Best to go with Jesus' advice to kill em all and let Gud sort it out.

Was that really his advice?
I have always wondered which one of the Pharisees you would be, PB.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/ni/BOSCH_christ-7157.jpg

I am tipping you as the top left, the choleric one.

Yadda wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 11:37am:

Leviticus 13:13 Then the priest shall consider: and, behold, if the leprosy have covered all his flesh, he shall pronounce him clean that hath the plague: it is all turned white: he is clean. bobby, You need to give that EVILBIBLE.COM a miss,       and brush up on your own scripture skill. forgiven namaste

  Sorry - I meant Deut 13:13 


13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;

14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;

15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.

16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the Lord thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.

17 And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the Lord may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers;

18 When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the Lord thy God.

Another head collected

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/woman-beheaded-first-picture-of-muslim-convert-nicknamed-fat-nick-suspected-of-murdering-82yearold-9714057.html

Perses wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 10:38pm:

Another head collected http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/woman-beheaded-first-picture-of-muslim-convert-nicknamed-fat-nick-suspected-of-murdering-82yearold-9714057.html

Yes - the head hacking is now in England too.
How long before the head hacking craze comes here?



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Details have begun to emerge about the man arrested for the murder of a great grandmother beheaded in her back garden. He was named locally as Nicholas Salvadore, a 25-year-old would-be cage fighter who is believed to be a Muslim convert, who had been living a few doors from 82-year-old Palmira Silva.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 10:54pm:

es - the head hacking is now in England too. How long before the head hacking craze comes here?

bobby this at least was a madman it wasnt done for the cameras....remember the killing of Lee Rigby...now that was PURE EVIL...

do we have the answers.... not yet....so far the only answer is more killing....weird isnt it?..

I do think the govt is doing its best to protect our shores.... a pity the left dont appreciate that...

take the Greens who think calling these... [?]..... terrorist isnt nice...we need more nice here..

more hand shacking and head bowing....ooops....maybe hold the head bowing.. for the greens only..

So did Abbott dishonour the memory of Aussie soldiers when He praised the Japanese military for fighting with skill and honour?


Hundreds of Aussies were beheaded by Japanese - of course none of them from Abbott's family though.


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Tony Abbott embarrasses Australia by praising Japanese WWII military, ‘getting on the sake’ and posing for ‘crotch-shot’ photo opportunity He said: “We admired the skill and the sense of honour that they brought to their task... independent.co.uk/incoming/tony-abbott-embarrasses-australia-by-praising-japanese-wwii-military-getting-on-the-sake-and-posing-for-crotchshot-photo-opportunity-9596793.html

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:23pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 9:13pm: I'm sorry, you are just too stupid to respond to other than asking you to log in as your slightly less ludicrous alter ego, Brain. He is only stupid whereas you are stupid and proud of it. Might be a clue there, Soren.  Have you always been this paranoid?    ::)

Disdainful is the word you are groping for, Brain, not paranoid.

Soren wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 10:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 4th, 2014 at 11:23pm: Soren wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 9:13pm: I'm sorry, you are just too stupid to respond to other than asking you to log in as your slightly less ludicrous alter ego, Brain. He is only stupid whereas you are stupid and proud of it. Might be a clue there, Soren.  Have you always been this paranoid?    ::) Disdainful is the word you are groping for, Brain, not paranoid.

A compelling confession, old boy. Lutheran, Freudian, disdainful.

You still agree that it’s a jolly world though, no?

cods wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 12:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5th, 2014 at 10:54pm: es - the head hacking is now in England too. How long before the head hacking craze comes here? bobby this at least was a madman it wasnt done for the cameras....remember the killing of Lee Rigby...now that was PURE EVIL... do we have the answers.... not yet....so far the only answer is more killing....weird isnt it?.. I do think the govt is doing its best to protect our shores.... a pity the left dont appreciate that... take the Greens who think calling these... [?]..... terrorist isnt nice...we need more nice here.. more hand shacking and head bowing....ooops....maybe hold the head bowing.. for the greens only..

The head hacking craze has come here:

ABC news 24 -  18th Sept.  2014

Muslims planned to hack someones head off in public on camera in Sydney.

Large police raids - thankfully - stopped the attack.

Once again - I was proven right.

Soren wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 6:38pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 5th, 2014 at 1:58pm: True, Y. Some say Jesus said to turn the other cheek. It's a pretty unreliable source though. Best to go with Jesus' advice to kill em all and let Gud sort it out. Was that really his advice? I have always wondered which one of the Pharisees you would be, PB. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/ni/BOSCH_christ-7157.jpg I am tipping you as the top left, the choleric one.

That's me, old chap. I'm wearing a nice glove to keep my fist clean.

Now bend over, please.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 12:35pm:

cods wrote on Sep 7th, 2014 at 12:16pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 5th, 2014 at 10:54pm: es - the head hacking is now in England too. How long before the head hacking craze comes here? bobby this at least was a madman it wasnt done for the cameras....remember the killing of Lee Rigby...now that was PURE EVIL... do we have the answers.... not yet....so far the only answer is more killing....weird isnt it?.. I do think the govt is doing its best to protect our shores.... a pity the left dont appreciate that... take the Greens who think calling these... [?]..... terrorist isnt nice...we need more nice here.. more hand shacking and head bowing....ooops....maybe hold the head bowing.. for the greens only.. The head hacking craze has come here: ABC news 24 -  18th Sept.  2014 Muslims planned to hack someones head off in public on camera in Sydney. Large police raids - thankfully - stopped the attack. Once again - I was proven right.

No, Bobbie, the prediction was that they'd get away with it and limpwristed spineless apologists like moi would be GUILTY.

My spineless advice was to leave it to the police, but that's clearly not good enough.

We need to organize a posse.

Karnal wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 2:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 12:35pm: cods wrote on Sep 7th, 2014 at 12:16pm: Bobby. wrote on Sep 5th, 2014 at 10:54pm: es - the head hacking is now in England too. How long before the head hacking craze comes here? bobby this at least was a madman it wasnt done for the cameras....remember the killing of Lee Rigby...now that was PURE EVIL... do we have the answers.... not yet....so far the only answer is more killing....weird isnt it?.. I do think the govt is doing its best to protect our shores.... a pity the left dont appreciate that... take the Greens who think calling these... [?]..... terrorist isnt nice...we need more nice here.. more hand shacking and head bowing....ooops....maybe hold the head bowing.. for the greens only.. The head hacking craze has come here: ABC news 24 -  18th Sept.  2014 Muslims planned to hack someones head off in public on camera in Sydney. Large police raids - thankfully - stopped the attack. Once again - I was proven right. No, Bobbie, the prediction was that they'd get away with it and limpwristed spineless apologists like moi would be GUILTY. My spineless advice was to leave it to the police, but that's clearly not good enough. We need to organize a posse.

We we would if this was the wild west but it's not Karnal's cattle country where we hang em high.

This is democratic Australia.

We will have to rely on Tony to protect us from violent Muslims.

Another beheading - when will it end?

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/24/world/africa/algeria-france-hostage-beheading/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


French President: Islamic extremists beheaded French hostage
By Ashley Fantz and Pierre Meilhan, CNN
September 24, 2014 -- Updated 1934 GMT (0334 HKT)



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(CNN) -- French hostage Herve Gourdel was abducted and beheaded, a killing shown on video, French President Francois Hollande told the United Nations General Assembly on Wednesday. "You will understand that today I am speaking before you with a particularly high level of emotion because one of my compatriots has just been subject of a cowardly assassination," Hollande said. "He was a man who was full enthusiasm. He loved the mountains. He thought he would be able to pursue his passion moving into the Ouzou area in Algeria." Hollande said the attack won't affect France's role in the battle against terrorism. "France will never give in to blackmail, to pressure, to barbaric acts. Quite to the contrary, France knows what is expected," Hollande said.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 6:51am:

Another beheading - when will it end? http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/24/world/africa/algeria-france-hostage-beheading/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 French President: Islamic extremists beheaded French hostage By Ashley Fantz and Pierre Meilhan, CNN September 24, 2014 -- Updated 1934 GMT (0334 HKT) Quote: (CNN) -- French hostage Herve Gourdel was abducted and beheaded, a killing shown on video, French President Francois Hollande told the United Nations General Assembly on Wednesday. "You will understand that today I am speaking before you with a particularly high level of emotion because one of my compatriots has just been subject of a cowardly assassination," Hollande said. "He was a man who was full enthusiasm. He loved the mountains. He thought he would be able to pursue his passion moving into the Ouzou area in Algeria." Hollande said the attack won't affect France's role in the battle against terrorism. "France will never give in to blackmail, to pressure, to barbaric acts. Quite to the contrary, France knows what is expected," Hollande said.

not sure what your reason is behind C&P this news bobby....as I get the feeling you lefties dont believe it anyway...its all a dirty harry movie script..

and for gods sakes everyone knows it couldnt happen here so why bother posting it??..unless of course you are keeping a record to show your grandkids just for a laugh of course. :o :o

Dear Cods - this is no laughing matter.

forgiven

namaste

If they didn't have the internet, then it's unlikely they'd bother beheading anybody. We'd find that we'd be back to pre-Internet/Youtube days of hostages being taken, followed by a long negotiation process. At worst, there'd be a news report of a body being found - not the whole gory execution process that's banged on purely for the cameras and the subsequent internet viewing audience.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 7:56am:

Dear Cods - this is no laughing matter. forgiven namaste

thats the way and your lefty friends claim it is... thats the point...oh look they are all under the bed....ok ok.. we get it.. unless someone is beheaded here it aint happening..we get it sadly.

dont need the phony forgiveness either..

Life_goes_on wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 8:15am:

If they didn't have the internet, then it's unlikely they'd bother beheading anybody. We'd find that we'd be back to pre-Internet/Youtube days of hostages being taken, followed by a long negotiation process. At worst, there'd be a news report of a body being found - not the whole gory execution process that's banged on purely for the cameras and the subsequent internet viewing audience.

so blame Sony /Bill Gates you reckon...

what on earth does that hav e to do with anything...

they wouldnt be chopping off heads if someone hadnt invented the knife either.. :D :D :D

When beheading gets a bit old and common, I wonder what they'll start doing?

Death by 1000 cuts?
Pan fried?
Hung, drawn and quartered?

Another Muslim beheads an American:


http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/26/us/oklahoma-beheading/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Beheading suspect was recently fired, Oklahoma police say
By Evan Perez, Pamela Brown and Shelby Lin Erdman, CNN
September 26, 2014 -- Updated 2119 GMT (0519 HKT)

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140926131540-alton-alexander-nolen-headshot-story-body.jpg
Muslim:  Alton Alexander Nolen


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After "he was terminated, he drove to the front of the business, running into a vehicle, exited his vehicle, entered the business, where he encountered the first victim, Colleen Hufford, 54, and began assaulting her with a knife. He did kill Colleen and he did sever her head." A second woman, identified as 43-year-old Traci Johnson, survived the attack, thanks to the intervention of another co-worker -- the company's chief operating officer Mark Vaughan, an Oklahoma County reserve deputy -- who shot and wounded Nolen. Johnson was hospitalized in stable condition with "numerous knife wounds," according to police. Nolen was shot twice and was also hospitalized in stable condition. "This off-duty deputy definitely saved Traci's life," Lewis said. "This was not going to stop if he didn't stop it. He's obviously a hero in this situation. It's very tragic that someone did lose their life, but it could have gotten a lot worse. This guy was definitely not going to stop. He didn't stop until he was shot." Nolen recently had been trying to convert co-workers to Islam, Lewis said.

When will this beheading craze stop?

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 8:12am:

Another Muslim beheads an American: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/26/us/oklahoma-beheading/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 Beheading suspect was recently fired, Oklahoma police say By Evan Perez, Pamela Brown and Shelby Lin Erdman, CNN September 26, 2014 -- Updated 2119 GMT (0519 HKT) http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140926131540-alton-alexander-nolen-headshot-story-body.jpg Muslim:  Alton Alexander Nolen Quote: After "he was terminated, he drove to the front of the business, running into a vehicle, exited his vehicle, entered the business, where he encountered the first victim, Colleen Hufford, 54, and began assaulting her with a knife. He did kill Colleen and he did sever her head." A second woman, identified as 43-year-old Traci Johnson, survived the attack, thanks to the intervention of another co-worker -- the company's chief operating officer Mark Vaughan, an Oklahoma County reserve deputy -- who shot and wounded Nolen. Johnson was hospitalized in stable condition with "numerous knife wounds," according to police. Nolen was shot twice and was also hospitalized in stable condition. "This off-duty deputy definitely saved Traci's life," Lewis said. "This was not going to stop if he didn't stop it. He's obviously a hero in this situation. It's very tragic that someone did lose their life, but it could have gotten a lot worse. This guy was definitely not going to stop. He didn't stop until he was shot." Nolen recently had been trying to convert co-workers to Islam, Lewis said. When will this beheading craze stop?

I find it sad that you feel you have to mock...maybe it makes you feel bwave on the inside..

but how about a little feeling for the victim and her family...no one deserves being killed as they go about their work by a maniac...and to even think this comes close to what is happening in Syria is disgraceful..

you do know the police officer that was stabbed in Endeavor Hills..was slashed round the neck dont you?

how would you like to see something like that happen before your eyes???...and how would you feel if people mocked it and made jokes...about beheading CRAZE..

Cods,

Quote:

I find it sad that you feel you have to mock...maybe it makes you feel bwave on the inside.. but how about a little feeling for the victim and her family...no one deserves being killed as they go about their work by a maniac...and to even think this comes close to what is happening in Syria is disgraceful.. you do know the police officer that was stabbed in Endeavor Hills..was slashed round the neck dont you? how would you like to see something like that happen before your eyes???...and how would you feel if people mocked it and made jokes...about beheading CRAZE..

I am not mocking anything.

I find that the beheading craze going on is shocking.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 9:37am:

Cods, Quote: I find it sad that you feel you have to mock...maybe it makes you feel bwave on the inside.. but how about a little feeling for the victim and her family...no one deserves being killed as they go about their work by a maniac...and to even think this comes close to what is happening in Syria is disgraceful.. you do know the police officer that was stabbed in Endeavor Hills..was slashed round the neck dont you? how would you like to see something like that happen before your eyes???...and how would you feel if people mocked it and made jokes...about beheading CRAZE.. I am not mocking anything. I find that the beheading craze going on is shocking.

yes you are.. it is not a CRAZE... a CRAZE is funny haircuts... not heads off.. >:(

its evil and this man has obviously been touched by evil.the point is they dont wear funny masks.. they look like everyone else...but god only knows what is going on inside them....even their own families dont understand it..

I am not sure what you would call dismemberment...isnt that some form of chopping up....and its b een going on since forever

so far I havent seen a video of it though??....unlike what we have seen of late... >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

thank god..

our world is getting nastier and nastier...the maniacs  in Syria have not lost the plot..like that guy... they are on a hiding to nothing.... and a lot of lives lost but they just dont care....they just dont care how they get what they want..

cods wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 10:15am:

our world is getting nastier and nastier.....

People have always been chopping off heads.

We haven't always had YouTube and 24 hour news stations though.

Cods,

Quote:

yes you are.. it is not a CRAZE... a CRAZE is funny haircuts... not heads off.. Angry

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/craze


Quote:

craze (kreɪz) v. crazed, craz•ing, n. v.t. 1. to make insane; derange. 3. to become insane. craze (kreɪz) n 1. a short-lived current fashion 2. a wild or exaggerated enthusiasm 3. (Psychiatry) mental disturbance; insanity vb 4. (Psychiatry) to make or become mad 6. a popular fad; mania.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/craze


Quote:

craze noun An enthusiasm for a particular activity or object which appears suddenly and achieves widespread but short-lived popularity:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 10:35am:

cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 10:15am: our world is getting nastier and nastier..... People have always been chopping off heads. We haven't always had YouTube and 24 hour news stations though.

so that make it OK??? .......pretend we are watching the movies......

does that make it ok to call it a CRAZE?...how about fetish??... thats in the title on this thread...seems to fit with the nonchalance that comes through on here.

some people out there are in a lot of pain seeing this play out in front of them and knowing there isnt a thing they can do to stop it...

yet somehow we seem to have more people on here. baying for the blood of the Western world.. than we do for those who are making beheading their lifes career...

they burnt people alive  at the stake as well you know?..

would that be ok. if these NICE PEOPLE decide thats the way they will go.....as headhunting isnt exactly having the effect they want...

lets do it slow.... >:( >:( >:(

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 10:39am:

a short-lived current fashion

like I said... funny haircuts are a CRAZE. :(

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fetish


fet·ish also fet·ich  (ftsh, ftsh)
n.


Quote:

1.  An object that is believed to have magical or spiritual powers, especially such an object associated with animistic or shamanistic religious practices. 2.  An object of unreasonably excessive attention or reverence: made a fetish of punctuality. 3.  Something, such as a material object or a nonsexual part of the body, that arouses sexual desire and may become necessary for sexual gratification. 4.  An abnormally obsessive preoccupation or attachment; a fixation.

cods wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 10:35am: cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 10:15am: our world is getting nastier and nastier..... People have always been chopping off heads. We haven't always had YouTube and 24 hour news stations though. so that make it OK??? ..(

No.

Try to remain focused, just this once.

You said: "our world is getting nastier and nastier".

I said: "People have always been chopping off heads."

I said absolutely nothing about it being "OK".

I'm trying to get you to realise that bad things have been happening in the world for a long, long time.  Our world is not getting "nastier and nastier".  It just seems that way to you because of the increased media attention.

Chopping off heads is nothing new.  Don't be fooled by the media and government hype.

This made the ABC24 news tonight:

Another Muslim beheads an American:


http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/26/us/oklahoma-beheading/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Beheading suspect was recently fired, Oklahoma police say
By Evan Perez, Pamela Brown and Shelby Lin Erdman, CNN
September 26, 2014 -- Updated 2119 GMT (0519 HKT)

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140926131540-alton-alexander-nolen-headshot-story-body.jpg
Muslim:  Alton Alexander Nolen


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After "he was terminated, he drove to the front of the business, running into a vehicle, exited his vehicle, entered the business, where he encountered the first victim, Colleen Hufford, 54, and began assaulting her with a knife. He did kill Colleen and he did sever her head." A second woman, identified as 43-year-old Traci Johnson, survived the attack, thanks to the intervention of another co-worker -- the company's chief operating officer Mark Vaughan, an Oklahoma County reserve deputy -- who shot and wounded Nolen. Johnson was hospitalized in stable condition with "numerous knife wounds," according to police. Nolen was shot twice and was also hospitalized in stable condition. "This off-duty deputy definitely saved Traci's life," Lewis said. "This was not going to stop if he didn't stop it. He's obviously a hero in this situation. It's very tragic that someone did lose their life, but it could have gotten a lot worse. This guy was definitely not going to stop. He didn't stop until he was shot." Nolen recently had been trying to convert co-workers to Islam, Lewis said.

When will this beheading craze stop?

Alton Nolen a.k.a. Jah’Keem Yisrael

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-27/5773348

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/oklahoma-beheader-o-ye-muslims-make-sure-u-give-your-children-the-knowledge-of-islam




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FBI: Motive for Oklahoma beheading not yet determined Sep 27, 2014 06:30 pm | Robert Spencer “When you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks…” (Qur’an 47:4) Nah, that can’t be it. It’s a Religion of Peace!

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/fbi-motive-for-oklahoma-beheading-not-yet-determined






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Oklahoma beheader’s mosque takes extra precautions against retaliatory violence Sep 27, 2014 10:28 am | Robert Spencer Here again we see the same old pattern: whenever there is a jihad attack or plot, area Muslim leaders don’t say they’re going to redouble efforts to teach against the beliefs and attitudes that give rise to this sort of thing. Instead, they say that they’re victims and are guarding against retaliatory attacks

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/oklahoma-beheaders-mosque-takes-extra-precautions-against-retaliatory-violence






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Oklahoma beheader: “O ye Muslims make sure u give your children the knowledge of Islam” Sep 26, 2014 09:45 pm | Robert Spencer The Oklahoma beheader’s Muslim name is Jah’Keem Yisrael. His Facebook page (thanks to Pamela Geller) is all about Islam. It is not only full of Qur’anic and moral exhortations, but also several pictures of Yisrael at a local mosque. Watch for mosque officials to say they hardly knew him and to complain about “Islamophobia”

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/oklahoma-beheader-o-ye-muslims-make-sure-u-give-your-children-the-knowledge-of-islam

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 6:59pm:

When will this beheading craze stop?

It looks like it's taking off Bobby.

We need to bring back this.......

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cWLEZsAW1Bw/TVbjTcvox9I/AAAAAAAABdo/DYVsYOrgsRs/s1600/alexander-mcqueen-fall-2009-warrior-head-armor.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 12:01pm:

cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 11:53am: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 10:35am: cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 10:15am: our world is getting nastier and nastier..... People have always been chopping off heads. We haven't always had YouTube and 24 hour news stations though. so that make it OK??? ..( No. Try to remain focused, just this once. You said: "our world is getting nastier and nastier". I said: "People have always been chopping off heads." I said absolutely nothing about it being "OK". I'm trying to get you to realise that bad things have been happening in the world for a long, long time.  Our world is not getting "nastier and nastier".  It just seems that way to you because of the increased media attention. Chopping off heads is nothing new.  Don't be fooled by the media and government hype.

the fact that you brought up history   means you accept it as part of human behavior..in todays world...

head chopping was not an everyday occurrence and was not used to take over another country...

well not in the history books I ever read...

this is more than head chopping they are being held for many months and tortured god we may never know what they have suffered...

these are not people who are enemies of the State.... which in the past was at least their excuse for the terror they wielded...

these people are people off the streets...they are not trying to topple a govt...

you think its media coverage well good luck with that....me I think its the world getting nastier...

and people not giving a damn about anyone else...

its ugly...Jack the Ripper was an ugly human being...but he wasnt an army...

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/56624

In a bizarre coincidence, a fired Oklahoma City nursing home employee was arrested Friday after a co-worker reported he threatened to cut her head off. The arrest came on the same day police in Moore revealed fired Vaughan Foods worker Alton Alexander Nolen beheaded a co-worker after he was fired Thursday. Nolen is a Muslim convert.Murithi was identified as a native of Kenya who is living in Oklahoma City. He worked at Bellevue Nursing Home in northwest Oklahoma City, police reported.

The co-worker reported Muriithi threatened her while they were both working at the nursing home Sept. 19, a police detective wrote in an arrest warrant affidavit.The woman was not identified.She said Muriithi identified himself as a Muslim and said he “represented ISIS and that ISIS kills Christians,” the detective told a judge in the affidavit. The two had not worked together before.

The woman said she asked him why they kill Christians and he replied, “This is just what we do,” the detective reported.“The victim said Jacob asked her what time she got off work and she replied by asking him in a joking manner if he was going to kill her,’ the detective wrote. “Jacob told the victim, ‘Yes,’ he was going to cut her head off. The victim asked Jacob what he was going to cut her head off with and he said, ‘A blade,’ then told her after he did it he was going to post it on Facebook.“

The victim said Jacob was serious when speaking and never made any statements that he was joking or playing around.”The woman reported Muriithi repeated the threat as she left work, saying in front of another employee that he was going to use a blade, the detective reported.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/30/justice/oklahoma-beheading/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Prosecutor likely to seek death penalty in Oklahoma beheading
By Michael Martinez, CNN.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140927125137-alton-alexander-nolen-facebook-story-body.jpg
Terrorist - Alton Alexander Nolen


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(CNN) -- Alton Alexander Nolen, 30, was charged Tuesday with first-degree murder and attempted murder in the beheading of a 54-year-old woman last week at his former workplace in Oklahoma and in the stabbing attack on another woman, said Cleveland County District Attorney Greg Mashburn. Nolen was also charged with a third felony, assault with a deadly weapon, the prosecutor said. The attempted murder charge is also called assault and battery with a deadly weapon, Mashburn said. "It is highly likely I will seek the death penalty in this case," he said, adding that he would first consult with the victim's family before making his decision. Nolen, a recent convert to Islam, is accused of carrying out the attacks Thursday at a Vaughan Foods processing plant soon after he learned he'd lost his job there.

http://www.rtvoost.nl/nieuws/default.aspx?nid=199329&cat=1

14 year old Muslim boy makes vid in support of ISIS, threatens to behead jews.

Probably not a vid that will send muslims on the streets to protest in defence of their religion’s honour. Inexplicable.

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What's with these dudes and their head collecting fetishes ? Are these people retarded ?

Yes, they are defects of the human race.

It's a lost cause in the long run....this head chopping craze.

Do the math on global scale:

Those that don't chop heads off
and
those that do chop heads off.

The don'ts outnumber the do's, globally.

Only so many heads will roll till the don'ts have had enough of this BS
and
take matters the the next level to blow the do's away once and for all.

Unfortunately, it's on a rise in this day and age.

But lets look at it another way.

An illustration:
There is a group of head-choppers roaming the streets looking for the next victim. Let's say there are 10
But there are 1000 + who are ordinary people getting on with their lives, but out of the 1000, 10 are armed, legally, to protect the 990

The 10 armed will be safe, the 990 may drop to 900, but by then the 10 headchoppers will be dead, shot by the 10 armed urban sheriffs.
The 900 will still get on with life, have babies.

Lets say of the 900, 450 have  a child each.

450 +450 +450
= 1350 more humans who don't chop heads


the 10 do's are dead, so they cannot have more of their kind,

= 0

Therefore, it's a lost cause, just don't lose your head over it and survive.

::)

Bobby. wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 7:31am:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/30/justice/oklahoma-beheading/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 Prosecutor likely to seek death penalty in Oklahoma beheading By Michael Martinez, CNN. Quote: (CNN) -- Alton Alexander Nolen, 30, was charged Tuesday with first-degree murder and attempted murder in the beheading of a 54-year-old woman last week at his former workplace in Oklahoma and in the stabbing attack on another woman, said Cleveland County District Attorney Greg Mashburn. Nolen was also charged with a third felony, assault with a deadly weapon, the prosecutor said. The attempted murder charge is also called assault and battery with a deadly weapon, Mashburn said. "It is highly likely I will seek the death penalty in this case," he said, adding that he would first consult with the victim's family before making his decision. Nolen, a recent convert to Islam, is accused of carrying out the attacks Thursday at a Vaughan Foods processing plant soon after he learned he'd lost his job there.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140927125137-alton-alexander-nolen-facebook-story-body.jpg
Terrorist - Alton Alexander Nolen


The death penalty for terrorists -

the Yanks know what to do.

When will this beheading craze stop?

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/03/world/meast/isis-alan-henning-beheading/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

ISIS video claims to show beheading of Alan Henning; American threatened
By Mariano Castillo, CNN
October 3, 2014 -- Updated 2149 GMT (0549 HKT)


Quote:

CNN) -- A short video released by ISIS on Friday shows the apparent beheading of British aid worker Alan Henning. Before he is killed, Henning speaks to the camera, referencing the British Parliament's decision to join the bombing campaign against ISIS. At the end of the video, ISIS shows an American aid worker, Peter Kassig, and threatens his life. There is no reason to believe that the video is not authentic, a U.S. intelligence official told CNN, adding that U.S. officials are studying it. A taxi driver from near Manchester, England, Alan Henning was part of a team of volunteers that traveled to Syria in December 2013 to deliver food and water to people affected by the Middle Eastern country's devastating civil war.

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9732152.ece/alternates/w620/alan-henning-isis.jpg
Alan Henning beheaded by ISIS - poor bloke only helped people.

What an absolutely appalling thing. This poor man worked so hard to help the Syrians. I had hoped they would spare him following the appeals for mercy from his Muslim friends. Monsters.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 9:35am:

What an absolutely appalling thing. This poor man worked so hard to help the Syrians. I had hoped they would spare him following the appeals for mercy from his Muslim friends. Monsters.

Yes he did nothing wrong - he would probably have helped their wounded.

ISIS are definitely monsters.


http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9732152.ece/alternates/w620/alan-henning-isis.jpg

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 9:35am:

What an absolutely appalling thing. This poor man worked so hard to help the Syrians. I had hoped they would spare him following the appeals for mercy from his Muslim friends. Monsters.

I can't see too many people lining up as volunteers to help muslims when they treat volunteers like that.

R.I.P Alan..what a good man :'( :-?

very cruel and inhumane....

RIP Alan..

totally undeserved just like the others... these are not men of war.

to call it barbaric/medieval  isnt really strong enough..

It is at the same time astonishing and heartbreaking to watch how America and Britain can sacrifice their innocent people.
They allow self-created terrorist servants to execute even own citizens in the most uncivilized manner only because of the interests of Wall Street and London oligarchs.

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interests of Wall Street

Yep, there is nothing, no rhyme or reason to "succeed" till this issue with the insanity of human nature is sorted.
It's like if someone came up to me and bragged about making it big in Wall Street, it be like, "oh yeah, what else" ?

It's like. "why run the race of success when a person down the road you know, knows someone who's had their head chopped off and the head chopper was just someone who was bored and decided to join ISIS" ?

Google, "psychology of isis fighters" to find out what makes them tick. They do have a weakness.

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As far as foreign fighters are concerned, Horgan said, they are driven to join ISIS by the need to “belong to something special.” “They want to find something meaningful for their life,” he said. “Some are thrill seeking, some are seeking redemption.”

It has nothing to do with Islam from what's been uncovered. ISIS is a business, serving only a few ( caliphs) who have found a way to con and get away with it, hiding behind the excuse of a religion.

I'm not expecting much if any agreement, but the thread-title reminds me of someone in a very large US online forum several years ago, who repeatedly attempted to generate discussion/draw attention to -- something he'd noticed

The poster cited numerous examples of something he'd noticed, that being that when the msm headlined, say, a knife attack, it was followed soon afterward by several knife attacks

Acid attacks featured prominently in the media appeared to encourage a rash of acid attacks

The burning of a partner in the home, after being featured in the media, was followed by several other home-burnings, and so on

Media driven - to create copy-cats - to encourage nut-jobs to embark on atrocities featured (promoted?) in the media  - granting attention to the nut-jobs and glorifying in effect, their nut-job behaviours - creating fear in the likely victims - creating anger and paranoia in the likely victims - thus granting the sense of power and control in the nut-jobs

but primarily media-driven, on behalf of those who stand to profit most from whichever orchestrated war

They are still doing it:


http://static2.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1962682.1412369150!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/peter-kassig.jpg


Video claims ISIS militants have beheaded American hostage Peter Kassig
By Ben Brumfield, CNN
November 16, 2014 -- Updated 1648 GMT (0048 HKT)


http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/16/world/meast/isis-kassig-killing-images/index.html?hpt=hp_t1



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(CNN) -- Militants claim to have beheaded American hostage Peter Kassig in a video published to the Internet on Sunday, purportedly from terror group ISIS. ISIS reportedly beheads Peter Kassig The video shows the aftermath of a beheading, in which the victim is not clearly recognizable. CNN has not been able to confirm the authenticity of the video nor the identity of the victim. Kassig, 26, who converted to Islam in captivity, also went by the name Abdul-Rahman Kassig. He went to the Middle East as a U.S. soldier and returned as a medical worker, feeling compelled to help victims of war.

R.I.P. Peter along with all those Syrian soldiers... :'(

if the good lord is watching this maybe he will send someone with the answers

is this any better than feeding the Christians to the Lions??..

the only difference is a wide audience  >:( >:(

cods wrote on Nov 17^th, 2014 at 6:44am:

R.I.P. Peter along with all those Syrian soldiers... :'( if the good lord is watching this maybe he will send someone with the answers is this any better than feeding the Christians to the Lions??.. the only difference is a wide audience  >:( >:(

Yes they did a mass beheading - yuck.

ISIS really are monsters the likes of which the world has never seen before.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:58am:

cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2014 at 6:44am: R.I.P. Peter along with all those Syrian soldiers... :'( if the good lord is watching this maybe he will send someone with the answers is this any better than feeding the Christians to the Lions??.. the only difference is a wide audience  >:( >:( Yes they did a mass beheading - yuck. ISIS really are monsters the likes of which the world has never seen before.

they do  each time bobs.....they just dont tell the world I think its time our world leaders mentioned these soldiers as well not just the one Westerner..

Obama makes a long speech about a person he hasnt mentioned at all even though he has been a prisoner since last Oct..He even called him by the Muslim name he adopted when he converted to Islam after his capture...

what they are doing is pure EVIL no doubt about it.... from what I have read they have over 100 captives....what terror these are going through hardly bares thinking about...but you can bet your dollar...being killed would be merciful in the end..

yet not a word is spoken about those still waiting. >:( >:( >:( >:(

can anyone even guess what the Syrian soldiers go through before death??????????

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 21^st, 2014 at 9:49pm:

What's with these dudes and their head collecting fetishes ? Are these people retarded ?

No, no, you just have to understand what happens when cultures clash -- pop songs get mixed up with reality.  In fact Billboard reports the top 10 songs in Iraq currently are:

1) I Just Died In Your Arms.
2) Beggin' On Your Knees
3) Head First
4) Hold Your Head Up
5) Keep Your Head
6) Nothing To Lose But Your Head
7) Shaking Heads
8) The Final Cut
9) I ain't got no body.
10) Don't Fear The Reaper

Bobby. wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:58am:

cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2014 at 6:44am: R.I.P. Peter along with all those Syrian soldiers... :'( if the good lord is watching this maybe he will send someone with the answers is this any better than feeding the Christians to the Lions??.. the only difference is a wide audience  >:( >:( Yes they did a mass beheading - yuck. ISIS really are monsters the likes of which the world has never seen before.

well, the world has not seen the likes of this for quite some time.

The rest of the islamic world should rise up against isis.
In the same was 'normal' christians stopped 'abnormal' christians from bombing abortion clinics in the US many years ago.

http://static2.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1962682.1412369150!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/peter-kassig.jpg
Aid worker, Abdul-Rahman Kassig - giving aid to people who are [and to those who support] MURDERERS.


2 Chronicles 19:1
And Jehoshaphat the king of Judah returned to his house in peace to Jerusalem.
2  And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.


Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.





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(CNN) -- Militants claim to have beheaded American hostage Peter Kassig.... Kassig, 26, who converted to Islam in captivity, also went by the name Abdul-Rahman Kassig.

God doesn't like Peter Kassig Abdul-Rahman Kassig.

Abdul-Rahman Kassig is a moslem.




THE 'PROPHET' OF ISLAM
"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

EVERY DAY, moslems kill [the wrong 'kind' of] moslems.
.....because murdering such people, is lawful to 'the moslem'.

AND, EVERY DAY moslems persecute and murder those who love the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
.....because murdering such people, is lawful to 'the moslem'.


God doesn't like those who hate HIM, and who murder his servants.

Is it 'strange' that 'the moslem' [the moslem 'lover'], Abdul-Rahman Kassig is a dead man ?icods wrote on Nov 17^th, 2014 at 6:44am:

R.I.P. Peter along with all those Syrian soldiers... :'( if the good lord is watching this maybe he will send someone with the answers is this any better than feeding the Christians to the Lions??.. the only difference is a wide audience  >:( >:(

Who in this age, has the blessing and protection of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob ?

???

2 Chronicles 16:9
For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him......iYadda said.....

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Surrounding moslem nations have been assailing Israel - since 1948. Today, Israel exists, is strong, and is thriving. ....... ....... In contrast with Israel,          every moslem nation in the region is in disarray and is being rent apart with internal - moslem - conflicts. Why so ? Aren't the moslems, the people who are blessed by Allah, their god - ...as a reward to moslems, for their righteousness, FOR BEING MOSLEMS ? ISRAEL.... Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee.... Genesis 27:29 ....cursed be every one that curseth thee, and blessed be he that blesseth thee. Numbers 24:9 ....Blessed is he that blesseth thee, and cursed is he that curseth thee. Moslems have been deceived          ...by their own jealousy and self-pride. And moslems have been cursed, BY GOD - because of their wicked enmity towards their brothers, Israel. ISLAM is a false religion. Mohammed is a false [self-serving] prophet. Moslems are slaves,         to a false and wicked spirit. Galatians 4:22  For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23  But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 24  Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 25  For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26  But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. 27  For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. 28  Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 29  But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. 30  Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. 31  So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free. The blessing [of God], is with the children of Isaac [and Jacob - ISRAEL]. Genesis 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac. 11  And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son. 12  And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called. ....Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: Exodus 4:22

brumbie wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 10:42am:

R.I.P Alan.. what a good man :'( :-?

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9732152.ece/alternates/w620/alan-henning-isis.jpg
Aid worker, Alan Henning

A person giving aid to people who are [and to those who support] MURDERERS






A good man ?

Is a man who gives aid and support to a rapist, a good man ?

Is a man who gives aid and support to a murderer a good man ?

Is a man who gives aid and support to an oppressor [of other men and women] a good man ?

Is a person who is a facilitator of rape, murder and oppression, a good amn ?


Dictionary;
facilitate = = make easy or easier.




Is such a man, Alan Henning, a 'good' man ?

IMO, 'aid worker' Alan Henning, and 'aid worker' Abdul-Rahman Kassig [formerly known as Peter Kassig], are in the exact same 'camp' [the stupid 'camp'] as this stupid, UNTHINKING bi tch.......



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/16/1416168650658_Image_galleryImage_DUBLIN_IRELAND_AUGUST_201.JPG
Stupid British woman
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1416223953/0#0

I know, that i am bound to offend many people [with my view of the world].







"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
   - George Orwell



"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."
   - George Orwell

Yadda wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 8:47am:

I know, that i am bound to offend many people [with my view of the world]. "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."    - George Orwell "If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."    - George Orwell

You can't say that, Y. It might offend.

resident muslims - this is why many hate islam.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 10:24am:

resident muslims - this is why many hate islam.

Hate them. Kill them.

Can you say that?

Karnal wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 10:38am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 18th, 2014 at 10:24am: resident muslims - this is why many hate islam. Hate them. Kill them. Can you say that?

K,

Incitement to murder.

Can you say that?




Dictionary;
incite = = encourage or stir up (violent or unlawful behaviour).      urge or persuade to act in a violent or unlawful way.


I hope the AFP have your ID.

I'm sure that they do.

Not Again!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7xbI-CIAAAxW2E.jpg
Kenji Goto Jogo and Haruna Yukawa.


Quote:

ISIS demands $200 million for Japanese hostages 01:43 Story highlights     Video shows a masked man standing over two kneeling men in orange jumpsuits     He links the threat against the men to Japan's support for the coalition against ISIS (CNN)[Breaking news update, posted at 4:24 a.m. ET] The international community needs to "deal with terrorists without giving into them," Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said Tuesday after the militant group ISIS demanded $200 million for the release of two Japanese hostages. But Abe, who was speaking at a news conference in Jerusalem, stopped short of explicitly ruling out the payment of a ransom or negotiations with the hostages' captors. [Original story, posted at 3:57 a.m. ET] The militant group ISIS has threatened to kill two Japanese citizens unless Tokyo hands over $200 million within 72 hours.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/20/middleeast/isis-japan-hostages/index.html

Yadda wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 10:10pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2014 at 10:38am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 18th, 2014 at 10:24am: resident muslims - this is why many hate islam. Hate them. Kill them. Can you say that? K, Incitement to murder. Can you say that? Dictionary; incite = = encourage or stir up (violent or unlawful behaviour).      urge or persuade to act in a violent or unlawful way. I hope the AFP have your ID. I'm sure that they do.

They are just doing what organized christian religion did 400 years ago in the form of the Inquisition where countless lives were lost all because of a whole lot of bronze aged myths about witches and devils.

The muslims are just 400 years behind the other religions which is why all religious instruction along with the instruction book called the bible should be discarded.

Hi Nail,
The Inquisition is back in the form of Muslims.
A time when religion was feared:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g76LwvbBEI