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Message started by Lord Herbert on Aug 24th, 2014 at 11:23am

Title: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Lord Herbert on Aug 24th, 2014 at 11:23am
Sylvester Stallone.




Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by wally1 on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm
All over the internet now nobody is buying the story that the beheading even happened and that the person killed wasnt even foley.

The whole video is a fake.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by wally1 on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:02pm
fake videos exposed.


Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Shakey on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:02pm

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm:
All over the internet know nobody is buying the story that the beheading even happened and that the person killed wasnt even foley.

The whole video is a fake.
I suppose all the other executions all over the internet involving muslims are fake too??

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by wally1 on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:04pm

Shakey wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:02pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm:
All over the internet know nobody is buying the story that the beheading even happened and that the person killed wasnt even foley.

The whole video is a fake.
I suppose all the other executions all over the internet involving muslims are fake too??


Beleive what you want, most of you people are sheep that follow and beleive any crap presented to you.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Shakey on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:07pm

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Shakey wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:02pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm:
All over the internet know nobody is buying the story that the beheading even happened and that the person killed wasnt even foley.

The whole video is a fake.
I suppose all the other executions all over the internet involving muslims are fake too??


Beleive what you want, most of you people are sheep that follow and beleive any crap presented to you.
You mussos are the height of blind loyalty. So all the executions happening at the moment by muslims are fake. Prove that we are sheep.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by wally1 on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:16pm

Shakey wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:07pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Shakey wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:02pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm:
All over the internet know nobody is buying the story that the beheading even happened and that the person killed wasnt even foley.

The whole video is a fake.
I suppose all the other executions all over the internet involving muslims are fake too??


Beleive what you want, most of you people are sheep that follow and beleive any crap presented to you.
You mussos are the height of blind loyalty. So all the executions happening at the moment by muslims are fake. Prove that we are sheep.


So do u beleive the foley video?

Then if you do your a sheep.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Shakey on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:18pm

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:16pm:

Shakey wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:07pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Shakey wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:02pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm:
All over the internet know nobody is buying the story that the beheading even happened and that the person killed wasnt even foley.

The whole video is a fake.
I suppose all the other executions all over the internet involving muslims are fake too??


Beleive what you want, most of you people are sheep that follow and beleive any crap presented to you.
You mussos are the height of blind loyalty. So all the executions happening at the moment by muslims are fake. Prove that we are sheep.


So do u beleive the foley video?

Then if you do your a sheep.
So nutjob islamists don't chop peoples heads off on camera then?? Isn't it a sin to kill another muslim also?

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Lord Herbert on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:27pm
All the images and videos going back to 9/11 of 'Islamist atrocities' were all shot on a back-lot of the Warner Brothers Studios in Hollywood just like the moon landing was.

We all know that.

8-)

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 24th, 2014 at 2:16pm

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm:
All over the internet now nobody is buying the story that the beheading even happened and that the person killed wasnt even foley.

The whole video is a fake.


Stop being silly, Wally.   ::)

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Lord Herbert on Aug 24th, 2014 at 2:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 2:16pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm:
All over the internet now nobody is buying the story that the beheading even happened and that the person killed wasnt even foley.

The whole video is a fake.


Stop being silly, Wally.   ::)


Wally's not being stupid. The whole thing's a Jewish conspiracy in cooperation with Mossad and the CIA.




Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by freediver on Aug 24th, 2014 at 3:42pm
It is propaganda designed to make normal Muslims look bad.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 24th, 2014 at 5:03pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 2:16pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm:
All over the internet now nobody is buying the story that the beheading even happened and that the person killed wasnt even foley.

The whole video is a fake.


Stop being silly, Wally.   ::)


Wally's not being stupid. The whole thing's a Jewish conspiracy in cooperation with Mossad and the CIA.


I didn't claim he was stupid, Herbie.  I claimed he was, "silly".

Now all you're doing is stoking the fires of his paranoia.   ::)

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 24th, 2014 at 5:05pm

freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 3:42pm:
It is propaganda designed to make normal Muslims look bad.


Yes, it is, FD.  Well done.  Now, why can't you apply that to most of the crap you post?   ::)

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by gandalf on Aug 24th, 2014 at 6:33pm
Here's a revelation: propaganda can actually be based on true stories.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by freediver on Aug 24th, 2014 at 6:51pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 6:33pm:
Here's a revelation: propaganda can actually be based on true stories.


Those Joos are pretty cunning eh?

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by gandalf on Aug 24th, 2014 at 6:53pm
oh look, another discussion in which FD brings up "the joos" - when no one else did.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by freediver on Aug 24th, 2014 at 6:55pm
It's official Gandalf:


Yadda wrote on Aug 23rd, 2014 at 8:26pm:

ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who holds a sensitive government position in the Netherlands, who has has also worked as a project leader for "Security and Counterterrorism", in the Netherlands!







Yasmina Haifi - worked as a project leader at the National Coordinator for Security and Counterterrorism, in the Netherlands.



Quote:

Dutch Official Calls ISIS "A Zionist Plot"

by Evelyn Markus
August 23, 2014


On Tuesday last week, Yasmina Haifi, an official at the National Coordinator for Security and Counterterrorism in the Netherlands, tweeted: "ISIS has nothing to do with Islam. It is a preconceived plan of Zionists who want to deliberately make Islam look bad."

For the past ten years, Ms. Haifi has been a senior staff member at the human resources department of the Ministry of Security and Justice. For the past two years she has also worked as a project leader at two of the Ministry's subsidiaries, the National Coordinator for Security and Counterterrorism and the National Cyber Security Center.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4641/isis-zionist-plot


Those sneaky Zionists!!!!!

And, its working!!

Coz i don't have a high opinion of moslems/ISLAM.        :P





But can you believe it!

This moslem woman, who is spreading this allegation, this libel against Jews, holds a sensitive government position in the Netherlands, as "a senior staff member at the human resources department of the Ministry of Security and Justice. For the past two years she has also worked as a project leader at two of the Ministry's subsidiaries, the National Coordinator for Security and Counterterrorism..." !!!

It is reported that Yasmina Haifi has been 'suspended', from her government position.


Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by George_Orhell on Aug 24th, 2014 at 7:05pm

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Shakey wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:02pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm:
All over the internet know nobody is buying the story that the beheading even happened and that the person killed wasnt even foley.

The whole video is a fake.
I suppose all the other executions all over the internet involving muslims are fake too??


Beleive what you want, most of you people are sheep that follow and beleive any crap presented to you.


You mean like this crap you are pushing out?

You et al would be funny if it wasn't for the pathetically piss poor taste. Get a conscience, his poor parents, brother and sister don't smacking go on TV because they think the "whole video is fake".

You're an idiot.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by gandalf on Aug 24th, 2014 at 7:14pm

freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 6:55pm:
Yadda wrote


Yes, well I will need to know when you are referencing Yadda, since I gave up reading his posts quite a while back.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by freediver on Aug 24th, 2014 at 7:20pm
I don't think Yadda is a Dutch official.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by wally1 on Aug 24th, 2014 at 8:27pm

George_Orhell wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Shakey wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:02pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm:
All over the internet know nobody is buying the story that the beheading even happened and that the person killed wasnt even foley.

The whole video is a fake.
I suppose all the other executions all over the internet involving muslims are fake too??


Beleive what you want, most of you people are sheep that follow and beleive any crap presented to you.


You mean like this crap you are pushing out?

You et al would be funny if it wasn't for the pathetically piss poor taste. Get a conscience, his poor parents, brother and sister don't smacking go on TV because they think the "whole video is fake".

You're an idiot.


Foley is a fool himself.

He got kidnapped and locked up in libya.And what does he then do, instead of going back to his family, he goes where, to syria which is a warzone.This Foley is not a very bright person is he.

Them miraciously a person claiming foley turns up, looks like he did a steroid cycle in captivity, and of course the nice muslims gave him 10 meals a day, and a shaver to trim his beard and hair. Foley looks so well kept and maintained.
Then out the blue ISIS, some how get a American Orange suit.Then he is driven 10 hours into the desert, kneeling on his knees so calm, the guy is about to be slaughtered and he is so calm through the whole situation.
Then of course during the slaughter, the camera turns off, and we only see the start where the knife is on his throat and the end with some fake head on some fake dummy.


Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 24th, 2014 at 8:29pm

freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 7:20pm:
I don't think Yadda is a Dutch official.


If he was, I'd be worried about the Dutch government!

Anyway, how do we know this "Dutch official" even exists, FD?  Considering Yadda's obviously mental instability, it's a worry.   ;D

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Sir Bobby on Aug 24th, 2014 at 8:37pm

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 8:27pm:

George_Orhell wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Shakey wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:02pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm:
All over the internet know nobody is buying the story that the beheading even happened and that the person killed wasnt even foley.

The whole video is a fake.
I suppose all the other executions all over the internet involving muslims are fake too??


Beleive what you want, most of you people are sheep that follow and beleive any crap presented to you.


You mean like this crap you are pushing out?

You et al would be funny if it wasn't for the pathetically piss poor taste. Get a conscience, his poor parents, brother and sister don't smacking go on TV because they think the "whole video is fake".

You're an idiot.


Foley is a fool himself.

He got kidnapped and locked up in libya.And what does he then do, instead of going back to his family, he goes where, to syria which is a warzone.This Foley is not a very bright person is he.

Them miraciously a person claiming foley turns up, looks like he did a steroid cycle in captivity, and of course the nice muslims gave him 10 meals a day, and a shaver to trim his beard and hair. Foley looks so well kept and maintained.
Then out the blue ISIS, some how get a American Orange suit.Then he is driven 10 hours into the desert, kneeling on his knees so calm, the guy is about to be slaughtered and he is so calm through the whole situation.
Then of course during the slaughter, the camera turns off, and we only see the start where the knife is on his throat and the end with some fake head on some fake dummy.



Wally brain -
I'm sure if you wanted to you could see the whole video.
It's probably on Youtube.

I won't watch it - it's too disturbing.

I am 100% sure that this story is true.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by freediver on Aug 24th, 2014 at 8:39pm

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 8:27pm:

George_Orhell wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Shakey wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:02pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm:
All over the internet know nobody is buying the story that the beheading even happened and that the person killed wasnt even foley.

The whole video is a fake.
I suppose all the other executions all over the internet involving muslims are fake too??


Beleive what you want, most of you people are sheep that follow and beleive any crap presented to you.


You mean like this crap you are pushing out?

You et al would be funny if it wasn't for the pathetically piss poor taste. Get a conscience, his poor parents, brother and sister don't smacking go on TV because they think the "whole video is fake".

You're an idiot.


Foley is a fool himself.

He got kidnapped and locked up in libya.And what does he then do, instead of going back to his family, he goes where, to syria which is a warzone.This Foley is not a very bright person is he.

Them miraciously a person claiming foley turns up, looks like he did a steroid cycle in captivity, and of course the nice muslims gave him 10 meals a day, and a shaver to trim his beard and hair. Foley looks so well kept and maintained.
Then out the blue ISIS, some how get a American Orange suit.Then he is driven 10 hours into the desert, kneeling on his knees so calm, the guy is about to be slaughtered and he is so calm through the whole situation.
Then of course during the slaughter, the camera turns off, and we only see the start where the knife is on his throat and the end with some fake head on some fake dummy.


Wally have you considered getting a job with the Mufti's PR department? They need more people to badmouth murdered journalists. It's the only way to stop the press smearing ordinary Muslims.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by cods on Aug 25th, 2014 at 9:54am

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm:
All over the internet now nobody is buying the story that the beheading even happened and that the person killed wasnt even foley.

The whole video is a fake.



I would love to think that was true...

as someone who has knowledge of the internal working of terrorist groups...can you tell us how this was faked...

because those who saw the whole thing..do not agree with you on this one..

and I doubt the world would be hunting the killer...whom they know a lot about...if they were not convinced

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Lord Herbert on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:47am

freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 6:55pm:
It's official Gandalf:

she has also worked as a project leader at two of the Ministry's subsidiaries, the National Coordinator for Security and Counterterrorism and the National Cyber Security Center.


Rats in the national silo.

Traitors poisoning the national well.

She's been 'suspended' ~ unfortunately not by the neck.






Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by wally1 on Aug 25th, 2014 at 7:09pm
Who would of thought.


Foley murder video 'may have been staged'


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/bill-gardner/11054488/Foley-murder-video-may-have-been-staged.html

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by wally1 on Aug 25th, 2014 at 7:10pm

freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 8:39pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 8:27pm:

George_Orhell wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Shakey wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:02pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm:
All over the internet know nobody is buying the story that the beheading even happened and that the person killed wasnt even foley.

The whole video is a fake.
I suppose all the other executions all over the internet involving muslims are fake too??


Beleive what you want, most of you people are sheep that follow and beleive any crap presented to you.


You mean like this crap you are pushing out?

You et al would be funny if it wasn't for the pathetically piss poor taste. Get a conscience, his poor parents, brother and sister don't smacking go on TV because they think the "whole video is fake".

You're an idiot.


Foley is a fool himself.

He got kidnapped and locked up in libya.And what does he then do, instead of going back to his family, he goes where, to syria which is a warzone.This Foley is not a very bright person is he.

Them miraciously a person claiming foley turns up, looks like he did a steroid cycle in captivity, and of course the nice muslims gave him 10 meals a day, and a shaver to trim his beard and hair. Foley looks so well kept and maintained.
Then out the blue ISIS, some how get a American Orange suit.Then he is driven 10 hours into the desert, kneeling on his knees so calm, the guy is about to be slaughtered and he is so calm through the whole situation.
Then of course during the slaughter, the camera turns off, and we only see the start where the knife is on his throat and the end with some fake head on some fake dummy.


Wally have you considered getting a job with the Mufti's PR department? They need more people to badmouth murdered journalists. It's the only way to stop the press smearing ordinary Muslims.


I dont speak egyptian.

Your the expert on islam, why dont you be his second hand man?

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by wally1 on Aug 25th, 2014 at 7:14pm
graphic image removed

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Sir Bobby on Aug 25th, 2014 at 7:21pm
Remove that picture - I only glanced ay it for 1/2 a second but that was enough.

Ozpolitic is not a snuff movie site.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Lord Herbert on Aug 25th, 2014 at 8:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 7:21pm:
Remove that picture - I only glanced ay it for 1/2 a second but that was enough.

Ozpolitic is not a snuff movie site.


I agree.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Sir Bobby on Aug 25th, 2014 at 8:49pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 8:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 7:21pm:
Remove that picture - I only glanced ay it for 1/2 a second but that was enough.

Ozpolitic is not a snuff movie site.


I agree.



I did PM   FD

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by freediver on Aug 25th, 2014 at 8:53pm
I'll let Gandalf decide on that one. It is on topic, as far as I am concerned.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Aussie on Aug 25th, 2014 at 8:59pm
I trust it will be deleted.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Lord Herbert on Aug 25th, 2014 at 9:00pm

freediver wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 8:53pm:
I'll let Gandalf decide on that one. It is on topic, as far as I am concerned.


Does this mean it's okay to post up images ~ even videos ~ of choirboys being buggered by priests in the paedophile threads because it's 'on topic'?

And graphics of anal sex in the homo threads?


Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Karnal on Aug 25th, 2014 at 9:14pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 9:00pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 8:53pm:
I'll let Gandalf decide on that one. It is on topic, as far as I am concerned.


Does this mean it's okay to post up images ~ even videos ~ of choirboys being buggered by priests in the paedophile threads because it's 'on topic'?

And graphics of anal sex in the homo threads?


You’re asking Bobbie that?

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Aussie on Aug 25th, 2014 at 9:14pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 9:00pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 8:53pm:
I'll let Gandalf decide on that one. It is on topic, as far as I am concerned.


Does this mean it's okay to post up images ~ even videos ~ of choirboys being buggered by priests in the paedophile threads because it's 'on topic'?

And graphics of anal sex in the homo threads?


You can correctly extend that logic even further.  How about what you might think (given what FD just posted) you can post in Relationships just because it is on topic.  No, FD, you have that wrong, but I do agree, given this is a Member run Board............the decision is Gandalf's to make.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Sir Bobby on Aug 25th, 2014 at 9:27pm

freediver wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 8:53pm:
I'll let Gandalf decide on that one. It is on topic, as far as I am concerned.



He's already written:


Quote:
Please Read - new rule regarding graphic media
Aug 4th, 2014 at 11:30pm

In response to an increasing amount of graphic material posted here, I am instituting a new rule:

The posting of images or videos depicting graphic violence is no longer allowed.

The only thing I will be allowing is a url link to a video or image(s) with a very clear disclaimer on the graphical nature of the content.

Offending posts will be edited or deleted without warning.


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1407159052

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Sir Bobby on Aug 25th, 2014 at 9:28pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 9:14pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 9:00pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 8:53pm:
I'll let Gandalf decide on that one. It is on topic, as far as I am concerned.


Does this mean it's okay to post up images ~ even videos ~ of choirboys being buggered by priests in the paedophile threads because it's 'on topic'?

And graphics of anal sex in the homo threads?


You’re asking Bobbie that?



Karnal would like homo pics.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by wally1 on Aug 25th, 2014 at 9:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 7:21pm:
Remove that picture - I only glanced ay it for 1/2 a second but that was enough.

Ozpolitic is not a snuff movie site.


Remove what?

A fake beheading video?

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Aussie on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:09pm

wally1 wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 9:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 7:21pm:
Remove that picture - I only glanced ay it for 1/2 a second but that was enough.

Ozpolitic is not a snuff movie site.


Remove what?

A fake beheading video?


Yes, even if it has been staged as opposed to fake......and, even if it is fake.  We don't need to see the crap.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Sir Bobby on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:29pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:09pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 9:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 7:21pm:
Remove that picture - I only glanced ay it for 1/2 a second but that was enough.

Ozpolitic is not a snuff movie site.


Remove what?

A fake beheading video?


Yes, even if it has been staged as opposed to fake......and, even if it is fake.  We don't need to see the crap.



Hi Aussie.
Gandalf was here tonight:


Quote:
Last Online:
Today at 10:02pm


He did nothing.
He is allowing snuff movie pics on his  Islam section.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Aussie on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:33pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:09pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 9:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 7:21pm:
Remove that picture - I only glanced ay it for 1/2 a second but that was enough.

Ozpolitic is not a snuff movie site.


Remove what?

A fake beheading video?


Yes, even if it has been staged as opposed to fake......and, even if it is fake.  We don't need to see the crap.



Hi Aussie.
Gandalf was here tonight:


Quote:
Last Online:
Today at 10:02pm


He did nothing.
He is allowing snuff movie pics on his  Islam section.


Yes, I did see that he was on-line.  There goes the neighbourhood.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by gandalf on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:47pm
Thanks Aussie - removed.

Wally, don't do it again. The relevant rule was quoted for you by Bobby above.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by gandalf on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:50pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:29pm:
Hi Aussie.
Gandalf was here tonight:

Quote:
Last Online:
Today at 10:02pm


He did nothing.
He is allowing snuff movie pics on his  Islam section.


You'll find I am online most of the time - 24/7. But that just means my PC is on and the ozpolitic site is open. It doesn't mean I am looking at stuff. Cut me some slack.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Karnal on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:51pm
What about a few harmless homo pics?

For Bobbie?

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Sir Bobby on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:52pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:29pm:
Hi Aussie.
Gandalf was here tonight:

Quote:
Last Online:
Today at 10:02pm


He did nothing.
He is allowing snuff movie pics on his  Islam section.


You'll find I am online most of the time - 24/7. But that just means my PC is on and the ozpolitic site is open. It doesn't mean I am looking at stuff. Cut me some slack.



Am I forgiven in Christ's light?

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Team Murdoch on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:53pm
They gave us stories about Iraq's WMDs and fake Bin Laden videos. Now another fake video.


Experts say execution staged. Add to this that he was supposed to be in Syrian Government custody:


Quote:
Video of James Foley beheading 'may have been staged'

A film purporting to show the beheading of James Foley was probably staged, according to a forensic science company...

...A blip in the footage, released on social media last week by Islamic State militants, indicated that Foley may have had to repeat a line as he read a script to camera while kneeling in the sand with his hands tied.

The footage was most likely edited later using "slick post-production techniques", according to the analysis for The Times in London by an unnamed international forensic science company that has worked for police forces across Britain, the news organisation claimed.

There was also no blood on Foley's neck as the masked militant appeared to drew a knife across his neck...

..."I think it has been staged," one of the forensic experts told the news organisation...

...amera trickery appeared to have been used.
Foley's words, which ran for one minute and 26 seconds, appeared to have been scripted, according to the analysis.
The militant was wearing a full-face mask, but the analysis concluded he was speaking the words in the footage.
The company also analysed the start of the supposed beheading.

"After enhancements, the knife can be seen to be drawn across the upper neck at least six times, with no blood evidence to the point the picture fades to black," the analysis said, noting that sounds allegedly made by Foley did not appear consistent with what would be expected.


theage.com.au/world/video-of-james-foley-beheading-may-have-been-staged-20140825-1082n4.html





Quote:
...In May 2013, GlobalPost, one of the news organisations Foley had worked for, reported he was being held in a Damascus prison run by Syrian Air Force Intelligence...

au.news.yahoo.com/a/24758283/james-foley-islamic-state-releases-video-which-it-claims-shows-beheading-of-captured-american-journalist/





Quote:
CIA's secret Iraq weapon revealed: a Saddam gay sex tape


theguardian.com/world/2010/may/26/cia-saddam-hussein-gay-sex-smear-plot

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Sir Bobby on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:54pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:51pm:
What about a few harmless homo pics?

For Bobbie?



Karnal is cattle country - we string them homos up -  yee haaa

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Aussie on Aug 25th, 2014 at 11:01pm

Team Murdoch wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:53pm:
They gave us stories about Iraq's WMDs and fake Bin Laden videos. Now another fake video.


Experts say execution staged. Add to this that he was supposed to be in Syrian Government custody:


Quote:
Video of James Foley beheading 'may have been staged'

A film purporting to show the beheading of James Foley was probably staged, according to a forensic science company...

...A blip in the footage, released on social media last week by Islamic State militants, indicated that Foley may have had to repeat a line as he read a script to camera while kneeling in the sand with his hands tied.

The footage was most likely edited later using "slick post-production techniques", according to the analysis for The Times in London by an unnamed international forensic science company that has worked for police forces across Britain, the news organisation claimed.

There was also no blood on Foley's neck as the masked militant appeared to drew a knife across his neck...

..."I think it has been staged," one of the forensic experts told the news organisation...

...amera trickery appeared to have been used.
Foley's words, which ran for one minute and 26 seconds, appeared to have been scripted, according to the analysis.
The militant was wearing a full-face mask, but the analysis concluded he was speaking the words in the footage.
The company also analysed the start of the supposed beheading.

"After enhancements, the knife can be seen to be drawn across the upper neck at least six times, with no blood evidence to the point the picture fades to black," the analysis said, noting that sounds allegedly made by Foley did not appear consistent with what would be expected.


theage.com.au/world/video-of-james-foley-beheading-may-have-been-staged-20140825-1082n4.html




[quote]
...In May 2013, GlobalPost, one of the news organisations Foley had worked for, reported he was being held in a Damascus prison run by Syrian Air Force Intelligence...

au.news.yahoo.com/a/24758283/james-foley-islamic-state-releases-video-which-it-claims-shows-beheading-of-captured-american-journalist/





Quote:
CIA's secret Iraq weapon revealed: a Saddam gay sex tape


theguardian.com/world/2010/may/26/cia-saddam-hussein-gay-sex-smear-plot
[/quote]

Yeas, I've read all the stuff of today about it being fake, as it may well be for all I know.  But......why bother faking it?  What is gained.

What is ISIS gonna say?  "Don't be mad at us.....while we really did behead Foley, we did not video it.  That was a fake."

Huh?

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by gandalf on Aug 25th, 2014 at 11:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:52pm:
Am I forgiven in Christ's light?


Repent on the Quran and then recite the shahada - and then I might spare you.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Team Murdoch on Aug 25th, 2014 at 11:13pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 11:01pm:
Yeas, I've read all the stuff of today about it being fake, as it may well be for all I know.  But......why bother faking it?  What is gained.

What is ISIS gonna say?  "Don't be mad at us.....while we really did behead Foley, we did not video it.  That was a fake."

Huh?



If the video is fake then it raises questions such as who actually made it.

What is gained by faking it? Well, that is a good question. The Syrian,Iraqi and US governments would benefit through manipulating public opinion against IS. There are others who would also benefit.



Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Sir Bobby on Aug 25th, 2014 at 11:15pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 11:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:52pm:
Am I forgiven in Christ's light?


Repent on the Quran and then recite the shahada - and then I might spare you.



Yet your hero Muhammad was a Christian who spread the Gospel all over the Middle East.

That's not something they will tell you at the Mosque.

you are forgiven

namaste
 

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Sir Bobby on Aug 25th, 2014 at 11:16pm

Team Murdoch wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 11:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 11:01pm:
Yeas, I've read all the stuff of today about it being fake, as it may well be for all I know.  But......why bother faking it?  What is gained.

What is ISIS gonna say?  "Don't be mad at us.....while we really did behead Foley, we did not video it.  That was a fake."

Huh?



If the video is fake then it raises questions such as who actually made it.

What is gained by faking it? Well, that is a good question. The Syrian,Iraqi and US governments would benefit through manipulating public opinion against IS. There are others who would also benefit.



It wasn't fake edit

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Aussie on Aug 25th, 2014 at 11:24pm

Team Murdoch wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 11:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 11:01pm:
Yeas, I've read all the stuff of today about it being fake, as it may well be for all I know.  But......why bother faking it?  What is gained.

What is ISIS gonna say?  "Don't be mad at us.....while we really did behead Foley, we did not video it.  That was a fake."

Huh?



If the video is fake then it raises questions such as who actually made it.

What is gained by faking it? Well, that is a good question. The Syrian,Iraqi and US governments would benefit through manipulating public opinion against IS. There are others who would also benefit.


You have misunderstood me.  ISIS killed him......but maybe not as videoed.  He was obviously beheaded at some time.  My question was.....what does ISIS gain by the fake.  The answer is ~ zero ~ so why bother with the fake?  Maybe it is not a fake.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Team Murdoch on Aug 26th, 2014 at 2:10am

Quote:
...Here are four reasons why the video could not have shown a real execution.


No Islamic Word Spoken

The spoken language in the video is English. Even though the masked militant in the video talked about Muslim interest which the Islamic State appeared to be protecting, there is hardly any Islamic word spoken during the video. Middle Eastern Muslims use words like "Inshallah" pretty often during a conversation. More importantly, there is no Islamic chant during the execution. It is almost a certainty that Islamic terrorists say "Allahu Akbar" while killing a hostage. Past execution videos show such practice, but there is no such thing in this video.


The Polished Look in Video

The video is apparently too polished to have come from a Middle Eastern militant organisation. There are several other terror videos which are circulated online. However, those videos are generally amateur-looking with poor audio and video quality. The James Foley execution video was shot on HD camera. Multiple angles of the video indicate that the video could have been shot with more than one camera.The audio is extremely clean as professional audio equipment is used to record the voice. The video has a refined look which seems to be the result of professional editing. All these elements are pretty unlikely for any terrorist video in the past.


The Unusual Censoring

Even though the video is meant to portray violence of extreme form and spread severe terror for anyone who watches it, the video is censored for some unknown reasons. The actual beheading is never shown in the video. The video fades to black the moment the beheading starts and then fades in the bloody image of the decapitated on the body. One may wonder why the Islamic State decided to show such restraint by not showing the real act of terror. More emphasis is given on words and verbal threats than action, which is another unlikely element for such a dangerous organisation.


Possible Special Effects Use

There are multiple YouTube videos which suggest how the execution could have shot like it is done in Hollywood movies. Green screen could have been used for the location. The decapitated head could be created with the modern make-up facilities. Iraq is a pretty dusty place, especially those places where the militants are supposed to stay. However, the masked militants black dress looks neat. Even the shoes are not quite dusty.

au.ibtimes.com/articles/563796/20140825/four-reasons-why-james-foley-beheading-video.htm#.U_teKF5hc6w

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Team Murdoch on Aug 26th, 2014 at 2:23am
Like the script from Iron Man 3:

youtube.com/watch?v=HTBiNvnUBB0

youtube.com/watch?v=bsxMNv7J544

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Team Murdoch on Aug 26th, 2014 at 2:44am
The Foley character is clearly CIA.



Quote:
...In 2006, Foley worked for USAID-funded development projects in Baghdad, Iraq. An he was embedded journalist with US troops in Iraq, where his brother was serving as an officer in the US air force...

...Foley went to Libya to cover the uprising against Muammar Gaddafi, embedding himself with rebel fighters (Libyan Civil War). Foley and three other journalists were detained near Brega, Libya, by forces loyal to Gaddafi; fellow photojournalist Anton Hammerl was killed in the attack in which Foley was captured...

...Sources close to the family said that at one point they believed he was kidnapped by Shabiha militia, a group loyal to the Syrian regime. He was later reportedly held in a Syrian Air Force Intelligence complex in Damascus...


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Foley_(photojournalist)




Foley worked for the US Agency for International Development which is basically a front for the CIA:


Quote:
Secret US effort in Cuba ‘hurts aid work’

A US program in Cuba that secretly used an HIV-prevention workshop for political activism was criticised yesterday by international public health officials and members of congress, who said such clandestine efforts put health programs at risk around the world.

Beginning in late 2009, the US Agency for International Development deployed nearly a dozen young people from Latin America to Cuba to recruit political activists, an Associated Press investigation found...

theaustralian.com.au/news/world/secret-us-effort-in-cuba-hurts-aid-work/story-e6frg6so-1227014669172

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Team Murdoch on Aug 26th, 2014 at 11:07am
Syrian Government caught out making up obvious lies:



Quote:
Claim James Foley was killed last year rejected by family

The family and the employer of murdered journalist James Foley have rejected a claim that he was actually killed a year ago.

The chief executive of the Global Post said it was a "disgrace" that the claim had ever been published.

Bouthaina Shabaan, Syrian president Bashar al-Assad's official spokeswoman, told the BBC that the United Nations had 'information' that Foley was arrested by the Free Syrian Army then sold to ISIS.

"James Foley was killed a year ago, not now, they [Islamic State] only released the pictures now, but he was killed a year ago," she said, according to the Daily Mail. "We have definite information, the UN has the information."

However the claim is contradicted by the testimony of several hostages who were in captivity with Foley.

Danish photographer Daniel Ottosen spent 13 months alongside Foley, during which time he memorised a letter from him to his family.

Ottosen dictated the letter to Foley's mother Diane in June after his release.

Phil Balboni, CEO of Foley's employer the Global Post, has revealed he and Foley's brother received the first message from his captors in late November last year, saying they were ready to negotiate for his release and asking for money.

The message was followed by five or six more which "gave us the opportunity to ask proof-of-life questions", Mr Balboni said.
In the last email, in August this year, his captors said they would execute Foley.

In response to Syria's claim, Balboni said it was "totally false and contradicted by a very significant body of incontrovertible evidence", the London Telegraph reported.

"We have multiple eyewitness accounts from hostages held with Jim as recently as last month. It's a disgrace that this was ever broadcast or published," he said...


smh.com.au/world/claim-james-foley-was-killed-last-year-rejected-by-family-20140826-108d9q.html

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by freediver on Aug 26th, 2014 at 12:42pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 10:29pm:
Hi Aussie.
Gandalf was here tonight:

Quote:
Last Online:
Today at 10:02pm


He did nothing.
He is allowing snuff movie pics on his  Islam section.


You'll find I am online most of the time - 24/7. But that just means my PC is on and the ozpolitic site is open. It doesn't mean I am looking at stuff. Cut me some slack.


I think it only shows you as online if you have clicked on something in the last 15 minutes. The site has no way of knowing if you leave a page open, unless it is streaming something.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by freediver on Aug 26th, 2014 at 12:53pm
Staged does not mean fake. It means was was not an impromptu beheading that someone just happened to catch on video. Also, the experts are not claiming that Foley was not killed and his head removed, merely that the part of the video that purports to show that is some kind of mimicry.

It is strange that ISIS would do that. They could have done a few practice runs, one of which ended up in the video. You can't do several takes of chopping someone's head off, so they would make sure it all works before doing the deed. There could be something wrong with the video of the actual beheading - eg blood spurting onto the screen and obscuring the act, camera getting knocked over, victim getting up and running away, technical problems, jihadist cutting his own thumb off, etc. Anything that embarrasses the jihadists would be motivation to edit in the practice run rather than a botched beheading.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by gandalf on Aug 26th, 2014 at 1:19pm

freediver wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 12:53pm:
Staged does not mean fake. It means was was not an impromptu beheading that someone just happened to catch on video. Also, the experts are not claiming that Foley was not killed and his head removed, merely that the part of the video that purports to show that is some kind of mimicry.

It is strange that ISIS would do that. They could have done a few practice runs, one of which ended up in the video. You can't do several takes of chopping someone's head off, so they would make sure it all works before doing the deed. There could be something wrong with the video of the actual beheading - eg blood spurting onto the screen and obscuring the act, camera getting knocked over, victim getting up and running away, technical problems, jihadist cutting his own thumb off, etc. Anything that embarrasses the jihadists would be motivation to edit in the practice run rather than a botched beheading.


I'm not surprised if thats what happened. Though I can't give my own take on it since I won't be watching the video. I remember the famous 2004 beheading by that AQ guy in Iraq, it was straight away clear that he was already dead and the scream was just a pre-recording.



Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Hot Breath on Aug 26th, 2014 at 1:31pm

freediver wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 12:53pm:
Staged does not mean fake. It means was was not an impromptu beheading that someone just happened to catch on video. Also, the experts are not claiming that Foley was not killed and his head removed, merely that the part of the video that purports to show that is some kind of mimicry.

It is strange that ISIS would do that. They could have done a few practice runs, one of which ended up in the video. You can't do several takes of chopping someone's head off, so they would make sure it all works before doing the deed. There could be something wrong with the video of the actual beheading - eg blood spurting onto the screen and obscuring the act, camera getting knocked over, victim getting up and running away, technical problems, jihadist cutting his own thumb off, etc. Anything that embarrasses the jihadists would be motivation to edit in the practice run rather than a botched beheading.


If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage as has been alleged, surely they've had plenty of practice at beheading people?  Why would would they need to undertake rehearsals?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by freediver on Aug 26th, 2014 at 6:43pm

|dev|null wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 1:31pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 12:53pm:
Staged does not mean fake. It means was was not an impromptu beheading that someone just happened to catch on video. Also, the experts are not claiming that Foley was not killed and his head removed, merely that the part of the video that purports to show that is some kind of mimicry.

It is strange that ISIS would do that. They could have done a few practice runs, one of which ended up in the video. You can't do several takes of chopping someone's head off, so they would make sure it all works before doing the deed. There could be something wrong with the video of the actual beheading - eg blood spurting onto the screen and obscuring the act, camera getting knocked over, victim getting up and running away, technical problems, jihadist cutting his own thumb off, etc. Anything that embarrasses the jihadists would be motivation to edit in the practice run rather than a botched beheading.


If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage as has been alleged, surely they've had plenty of practice at beheading people?  Why would would they need to undertake rehearsals?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


I have no doubt they are great at cutting people's heads off. It is making movies that they need to rehearse. Even the experts have been known to use a few takes. You don't want to realise after you have removed the head that you forgot to turn the sound on.

In my opinion this makes it even more micabre - they made Foley rehearse his own death.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Aussie on Aug 26th, 2014 at 6:59pm

freediver wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 6:43pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 1:31pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 12:53pm:
Staged does not mean fake. It means was was not an impromptu beheading that someone just happened to catch on video. Also, the experts are not claiming that Foley was not killed and his head removed, merely that the part of the video that purports to show that is some kind of mimicry.

It is strange that ISIS would do that. They could have done a few practice runs, one of which ended up in the video. You can't do several takes of chopping someone's head off, so they would make sure it all works before doing the deed. There could be something wrong with the video of the actual beheading - eg blood spurting onto the screen and obscuring the act, camera getting knocked over, victim getting up and running away, technical problems, jihadist cutting his own thumb off, etc. Anything that embarrasses the jihadists would be motivation to edit in the practice run rather than a botched beheading.


If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage as has been alleged, surely they've had plenty of practice at beheading people?  Why would would they need to undertake rehearsals?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


I have no doubt they are great at cutting people's heads off. It is making movies that they need to rehearse. Even the experts have been known to use a few takes. You don't want to realise after you have removed the head that you forgot to turn the sound on.

In my opinion this makes it even more micabre - they made Foley rehearse his own death.


If it's fake, and why they'd bother is beyond me given they admit doing the decapitation ~ then:

(a)  They take him to where the video is filmed, and he says his bit.  *Cut.*

(b)  They take him inside, and behead.  *Cut.*  (Yeas....poor choice of word.)

(c)  They take him back to the first site, and fake it with the little knife.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Datalife on Aug 26th, 2014 at 7:07pm

|dev|null wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 1:31pm:
If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage as has been alleged, surely they've had plenty of practice at beheading people?  Why would would they need to undertake rehearsals?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage?

If?  Alleged?




Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Lord Herbert on Aug 26th, 2014 at 7:56pm

Datalife wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 7:07pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 1:31pm:
If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage as has been alleged, surely they've had plenty of practice at beheading people?  Why would would they need to undertake rehearsals?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage?

If?  Alleged?


You're being trolled, Datalife.

Why waste time on these pests whose only interest is to pull your chain and see you dance for them.

They haven't the vaguest interest in the actual subject matter itself, as demonstrated by their impossibly stupid objections to anything we say of a negative nature about Islam and the Muslim congregation.

Don't let them feed you peanuts and prod you through the cage bars as they would like to imagine us.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Karnal on Aug 26th, 2014 at 8:53pm
Herbie’s never been a big fan of debate and discussion. He calls this "trolling".

Herbie prefers to issue decrees. To himself.

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Hot Breath on Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:49am

Datalife wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 7:07pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 1:31pm:
If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage as has been alleged, surely they've had plenty of practice at beheading people?  Why would would they need to undertake rehearsals?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage?

If?  Alleged?


Benefit of the doubt and all that stuff, you know, "innocent until proven guilty" sort of concepts?  I don't doubt you prefer to jump on the Islamophobe bandwagon but I prefer to see things proved.  There seems to be some doubt about this little movie, now doesn't there, so why should all the other movies be true?    ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Hot Breath on Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:50am

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 7:56pm:

Datalife wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 7:07pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 1:31pm:
If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage as has been alleged, surely they've had plenty of practice at beheading people?  Why would would they need to undertake rehearsals?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage?

If?  Alleged?


You're being trolled, Datalife.

Why waste time on these pests whose only interest is to pull your chain and see you dance for them.

They haven't the vaguest interest in the actual subject matter itself, as demonstrated by their impossibly stupid objections to anything we say of a negative nature about Islam and the Muslim congregation.

Don't let them feed you peanuts and prod you through the cage bars as they would like to imagine us.


Oh, Sensei, now you are showing your mastery of the Way of the Troll!   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Datalife on Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:56am

|dev|null wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:49am:

Datalife wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 7:07pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 1:31pm:
If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage as has been alleged, surely they've had plenty of practice at beheading people?  Why would would they need to undertake rehearsals?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage?

If?  Alleged?


Benefit of the doubt and all that stuff, you know, "innocent until proven guilty" sort of concepts?  I don't doubt you prefer to jump on the Islamophobe bandwagon but I prefer to see things proved.  There seems to be some doubt about this little movie, now doesn't there, so why should all the other movies be true?    ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


You can give ISIS the benefit of the doubt of engaging on a murderous rampage,  no one stopping you thinking they are innocent till proven guilty.

Gives a good perspective on your thought processes though and going to be interesting watching you try to apply that benefit of doubt and innocent until proven guilty honestly, say when you are accusing the great satan or Israel of stuff. 

You will be consistent I hope.   ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Hot Breath on Aug 27th, 2014 at 1:11pm

Datalife wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:56am:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:49am:

Datalife wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 7:07pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 1:31pm:
If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage as has been alleged, surely they've had plenty of practice at beheading people?  Why would would they need to undertake rehearsals?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage?

If?  Alleged?


Benefit of the doubt and all that stuff, you know, "innocent until proven guilty" sort of concepts?  I don't doubt you prefer to jump on the Islamophobe bandwagon but I prefer to see things proved.  There seems to be some doubt about this little movie, now doesn't there, so why should all the other movies be true?    ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


You can give ISIS the benefit of the doubt of engaging on a murderous rampage,  no one stopping you thinking they are innocent till proven guilty.

Gives a good perspective on your thought processes though and going to be interesting watching you try to apply that benefit of doubt and innocent until proven guilty honestly, say when you are accusing the great satan or Israel of stuff. 

You will be consistent I hope.   ;D ;D ;D


Of course, from this moment on!  Just as you are, right?    ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Datalife on Aug 27th, 2014 at 2:54pm

|dev|null wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 1:11pm:

Datalife wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:56am:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:49am:

Datalife wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 7:07pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 26th, 2014 at 1:31pm:
If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage as has been alleged, surely they've had plenty of practice at beheading people?  Why would would they need to undertake rehearsals?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


If ISIS has been going on a murderous rampage?

If?  Alleged?


Benefit of the doubt and all that stuff, you know, "innocent until proven guilty" sort of concepts?  I don't doubt you prefer to jump on the Islamophobe bandwagon but I prefer to see things proved.  There seems to be some doubt about this little movie, now doesn't there, so why should all the other movies be true?    ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


You can give ISIS the benefit of the doubt of engaging on a murderous rampage,  no one stopping you thinking they are innocent till proven guilty.

Gives a good perspective on your thought processes though and going to be interesting watching you try to apply that benefit of doubt and innocent until proven guilty honestly, say when you are accusing the great satan or Israel of stuff. 

You will be consistent I hope.   ;D ;D ;D


Of course, from this moment on!  Just as you are, right?    ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


Nope not me.  I can assess for myself from what I read, from what I see on TV and from listening to experts, and victims and on the balance of probabilities that ISIS is engaged in a murderous rampage without it being needed to be proven in a court of law.

That is your silly position, "innocent until proven guilty" and the "benefit of doubt" and I hope that you apply it consistently.

But I know you won't.  8-)

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Hot Breath on Aug 27th, 2014 at 5:55pm
Who's now showing an inability at comprehension?  I never mentioned "a court of law," DL.  That is your projection.

Perhaps I just have a higher standard or proof than you do, as you appear rather willing to accept what ever the Tabloids tell you.  I can't see you reading Fairfax or watching the ABC, afterall, they're just full of lefty Sandalista opinion...   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Datalife on Aug 27th, 2014 at 6:09pm

|dev|null wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 5:55pm:
Who's now showing an inability at comprehension?  I never mentioned "a court of law," DL.  That is your projection.

Perhaps I just have a higher standard or proof than you do, as you appear rather willing to accept what ever the Tabloids tell you.  I can't see you reading Fairfax or watching the ABC, afterall, they're just full of lefty Sandalista opinion...   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D


You used the language of a court of law.  You are the one who thinks ISIS murderous rampage is alleged and are giving it the benefit of the doubt, innocent until proven guilty you said. 

And yes I read Fairfax along with a lot of other media.  Unlike many on the forum I like to get information from multiple sources, between any bias, real or perceived, both left and right you can usually find the truth and sometimes allows you to juxtapose between differing interpretations from a single source or at least information about the source as well.

It takes a particularly dumb sort of personality to disregard a source because you do not share that viewpoint or think it biased, if nothing else it is always wise to inform yourself what alternative viewpoints are saying and what propaganda is being promulgated.  Allows an informed response and to mount targeted counterpoints you see.

But a particularly dumb viewpoint is your stock in trade.

And I look forward to you maintaining that same "higher standard of proof" granting a "benefit of the doubt" and "innocent until proven guilty" that you accord ISIS on its "alleged murderous rampage" without prejudice and to that same higher standard toward  Israel and the great Satan.

Wouldn't want to prove yourself a hypocrite now would you dopey?

You don't even know it bozo but you have just scored yourself a massive home goal and now you get to wear it.

178 IQ my arse.   ;D ;D  ;D

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Hot Breath on Aug 28th, 2014 at 11:17am

Datalife wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 6:09pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 5:55pm:
Who's now showing an inability at comprehension?  I never mentioned "a court of law," DL.  That is your projection.

Perhaps I just have a higher standard or proof than you do, as you appear rather willing to accept what ever the Tabloids tell you.  I can't see you reading Fairfax or watching the ABC, afterall, they're just full of lefty Sandalista opinion...   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D


You used the language of a court of law. 


No, you assumed that meant I was talking about a "court of law".  Now who's making silly assumptions?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


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You are the one who thinks ISIS murderous rampage is alleged and are giving it the benefit of the doubt, innocent until proven guilty you said. 


Yes.  I find they are good principles to run with, throughout life.  It avoids me making rash statements which are not necessarily supported by the facts until they are fully known.  I'm sure you want to avoid that sort of situation don't you?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


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And yes I read Fairfax along with a lot of other media.  Unlike many on the forum I like to get information from multiple sources, between any bias, real or perceived, both left and right you can usually find the truth and sometimes allows you to juxtapose between differing interpretations from a single source or at least information about the source as well.


Really, yet you invariably come up with the opinions which are obviously reinforced by tabloid yellow journalism of the worst kind, be it about Asylum Seekers or Muslims.  For one who prides oneself on being an independent thinker, you seem to be very much marching to the drumbeat of the right-wing!   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D


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It takes a particularly dumb sort of personality to disregard a source because you do not share that viewpoint or think it biased, if nothing else it is always wise to inform yourself what alternative viewpoints are saying and what propaganda is being promulgated.  Allows an informed response and to mount targeted counterpoints you see.


Ah, so you don't read them with an open-mind, willing to allow them to convince you then DL?  How unsurprising that you read them to "mount targeted counterpoints".   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


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But a particularly dumb viewpoint is your stock in trade.


Is it?  Perhaps it's all about perceptions?    ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


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And I look forward to you maintaining that same "higher standard of proof" granting a "benefit of the doubt" and "innocent until proven guilty" that you accord ISIS on its "alleged murderous rampage" without prejudice and to that same higher standard toward  Israel and the great Satan.

Wouldn't want to prove yourself a hypocrite now would you dopey?

You don't even know it bozo but you have just scored yourself a massive home goal and now you get to wear it.

178 IQ my arse.   ;D ;D  ;D


No thank you.  Not interested.  You really do seem to suffer from the Tall Poppy Syndrome.  Jealousy is such a childish emotion, don't you find?  Did you suffer a particularly disadvantaged childhood?  That may explain how you attack anybody who has done better than you out of life.     ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Datalife on Aug 28th, 2014 at 5:30pm

|dev|null wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 11:17am:

Datalife wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 6:09pm:
You are the one who thinks ISIS murderous rampage is alleged and are giving it the benefit of the doubt, innocent until proven guilty you said. 


Yes.  I find they are good principles to run with, throughout life.  It avoids me making rash statements which are not necessarily supported by the facts until they are fully known.  I'm sure you want to avoid that sort of situation don't you?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


Good to see, I, and I suspect others look forward to you applying those principles of, in your words, "innocent until proven guilty" and "benefit of the doubt" without fear or favour, predjudice or bias, and to the same high standard, not only to ISIS benefit but also to actions by Israel and America.  8-)

This should be a joy to watch.  You have constructed for yourself an extremely high burden of proof and I doubt that you will ever be able to vault it.

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Hot Breath on Aug 29th, 2014 at 10:25am

Datalife wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 5:30pm:
Good to see, I, and I suspect others look forward to you applying those principles of, in your words, "innocent until proven guilty" and "benefit of the doubt" without fear or favour, predjudice or bias, and to the same high standard, not only to ISIS benefit but also to actions by Israel and America.  8-)

This should be a joy to watch.  You have constructed for yourself an extremely high burden of proof and I doubt that you will ever be able to vault it.

;D ;D ;D


Oh, no, DL.  I'm always willing to try and reform myself but as my school teacher once remarked about me, "this student sets ridiculously low standards for himself and still fails to maintain them!"  So, I might not be able to make that vault, preferring to lapse back into mediocrity like yourself.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Datalife on Aug 29th, 2014 at 1:21pm

|dev|null wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 10:25am:

Datalife wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 5:30pm:
Good to see, I, and I suspect others look forward to you applying those principles of, in your words, "innocent until proven guilty" and "benefit of the doubt" without fear or favour, predjudice or bias, and to the same high standard, not only to ISIS benefit but also to actions by Israel and America.  8-)

This should be a joy to watch.  You have constructed for yourself an extremely high burden of proof and I doubt that you will ever be able to vault it.

;D ;D ;D


Oh, no, DL.  I'm always willing to try and reform myself but as my school teacher once remarked about me, "this student sets ridiculously low standards for himself and still fails to maintain them!"  So, I might not be able to make that vault, preferring to lapse back into mediocrity like yourself.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


How predictable, so you won't be holding the actions of Israel and the US to the same standards and the same burdens of proof that you granted ISIS.

Not that it is a surprise.   ::)

Still it would have been fun watching you, but I can see you are not even going to try and impartially apply that rhetoric you so loftily proclaimed.

All mouth and no trousers as they say.  Another way of saying it is you are full of poo.   

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Hot Breath on Aug 29th, 2014 at 2:55pm

Datalife wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 1:21pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 10:25am:

Datalife wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 5:30pm:
Good to see, I, and I suspect others look forward to you applying those principles of, in your words, "innocent until proven guilty" and "benefit of the doubt" without fear or favour, predjudice or bias, and to the same high standard, not only to ISIS benefit but also to actions by Israel and America.  8-)

This should be a joy to watch.  You have constructed for yourself an extremely high burden of proof and I doubt that you will ever be able to vault it.

;D ;D ;D


Oh, no, DL.  I'm always willing to try and reform myself but as my school teacher once remarked about me, "this student sets ridiculously low standards for himself and still fails to maintain them!"  So, I might not be able to make that vault, preferring to lapse back into mediocrity like yourself.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


How predictable, so you won't be holding the actions of Israel and the US to the same standards and the same burdens of proof that you granted ISIS.


No, no, DL you've got the wrong end of the stick, you silly sausage!  I'm not holding the actions of anybody to any standard, I'm supposed to be holding myself to this new standard!  You silly billy!   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

I'd hope that the US and Israel, being representatives of superior Judeo-Christian cultural traditions would hold themselves to the highest standards possible for their behaviour.  Do you think they are doing that?


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Not that it is a surprise.   ::)

Still it would have been fun watching you, but I can see you are not even going to try and impartially apply that rhetoric you so loftily proclaimed.

All mouth and no trousers as they say.  Another way of saying it is you are full of poo.   


As usual, pontificating when you're got it just so wrong DL.  It's what makes you so amusing as you put your foot in your mouth, again.    ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I think the Foley murderer looks like Stallone
Post by Shakey on Aug 29th, 2014 at 2:56pm
This piece of crap head cutter is a dead man walking. There's a drone out there with his name on it. It won't take long.

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