http://www.jasonclare.com.au/media/portfolio-releases/1941-even-nbn-co-ceo-thinks-malcolms-mates-report-is-rubbish.html

NBN Co Chief Executive Officer Bill Morrow has undermined the credibility of Malcolm's mates' cost benefit analysis questioning the dodgy assumptions that underpin it.

In a crushing blow to the credibility of the report written by former Malcolm Turnbull staff and some of Australia's biggest critics of the NBN, Bill Morrow has questioned the key assumption that Australian households will require only 15 megabits per second in 2023.

On Radio National yesterday Bill Morrow said:

"I suspect...when they talk about 15 megabits per second being sufficient for people today, I think that that likely is taking a snapshot in today's environment. What will tomorrow be, what will next year and the next decade require, I think is really the question."

"I think we need to ask the panel how they came up with the 15mbps."

NBN CO CEO BILL MORROW, RADIO NATIONAL, FRIDAY 29 AUGUST 2014

Bill Morrow also said that 15mbps is already "insufficient" to meet his family's needs:

"For me, Sheryl, as an example, I have a 21 year old and a nineteen year old, so two uni students in my house, I have an 11 year old and a seven year old and two adults that are active on the internet, and I don't think that would be enough for us, and not because it's a speed issue but because we're sharing that, so if we are all active in a video intensive area, then that clearly is going to be insufficient to meet our particular needs."

NBN CO CEO BILL MORROW, RADIO NATIONAL, FRIDAY 29 AUGUST 2014

Malcolm's mates' report is so flawed that even the CEO of NBN Co is questioning it.

No wonder. Already more than half the people on the NBN are ordering 25 Mbps or more.

The report also says that by 2023 only 5 per cent of households will need 43Mbps. However, already 28 per cent of people on the NBN are ordering 50Mbps or more.

The results of a cost benefit analysis depend on the assumptions you put in it. If the assumptions are wrong the conclusions will be wrong.

The fact that even Bill Morrow, the man in charge of building the NBN, is questioning the assumptions in this report completely undermines the credibility of Malcolm's mates' report.

Next week is the 1st Anniversary of the election of the Abbott Government. In that time all we have seen on the NBN is broken promises and delays, and dodgy reports to justify their second rate broadband network.

The real tragedy is because the government has been so focused on these dodgy reports, the NBN is now rolling out slower today than it was this time last year.

It is possible for SA, and Vic after the election, to roll out FTTH within the state: http://tinyurl.com/m4hr95m

Would not have to do that much to show the total policy bankruptcy of Mlacolm Turnbull.

(above link is still a work in progress.)

Some here: https://www.facebook.com/FriendsOfTheNationalBroadbandNetwork/posts/740129686054255

Oh—15mbps is ridiculously low! The CBA is discredited BY EXISTING NBN PLANS TAKEN UP! Why did Malcolm’s buddies not check? Incompetence? Not suiting pre-ordained answers? https://www.facebook.com/FriendsOfTheNationalBroadbandNetwork/posts/742302932503597

Yep Labor always spends the rent money and maxes the credit card.....

You seem to be missing the fact Hokey, monkey etc are INCREASING the deficit.

And I thought it was 20%?

Swagman wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 1:57pm:

Yep Labor always spends the rent money and maxes the credit card.....

Pretty sure the government card has no limit. Can't max something with no max

Quote:

"I think we need to ask the panel how they came up with the 15mbps."

And keep questioning until they explain where that number came from.

Quote:

In a crushing blow to the credibility of the report written by former Malcolm Turnbull staff and some of Australia's biggest critics of the NBN, Bill Morrow has questioned the key assumption that Australian households will require only 15 megabits per second in 2023.

The average houshold might well only require that in 2023, but that average is dragged down by old biddies who might send one email a month.  Cutting edge people will need 10x more.

Also, it's silly to talk of such a close date when we're discussing such a large infrastructure project.  It probably won't even be finished  by 2023.  This is an opportunity to build a network that lasts for a hundred years, and we're squandering it.

Hey Bill Morrow, get your family off the net and go out and have dinner together. What a joke!

red baron wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:21pm:

Hey Bill Morrow, get your family off the net and go out and have dinner together. What a joke!

Net-based entertainment is much cheaper and more versatile than eating out every night. 

red baron wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:21pm:

Hey Bill Morrow, get your family off the net and go out and have dinner together. What a joke!

Yeah yeah!

Nevertheless, the Strategic Review, the CBA and Fraudband aka Malcolm’s Terrible Muddle are sad jokes and huge waste of money—have to be updated to FTTH anyway!

Liberal party policy on any infrastructure they built is

DO IT AS CHEAP AS WE CAN

Labor party policy on any infrastructure they built is

DO IT ONCE DO IT RIGHT

... wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:18pm:

Quote: In a crushing blow to the credibility of the report written by former Malcolm Turnbull staff and some of Australia's biggest critics of the NBN, Bill Morrow has questioned the key assumption that Australian households will require only 15 megabits per second in 2023. The average houshold might well only require that in 2023, but that average is dragged down by old biddies who might send one email a month.

This line of argument is dubious. What method is used to compute this average?

The 15 Mbps is unsubstantiated and is unrealistic. Many people need more bandwidth than that right now. It is implausible to assume that the majority of Australian households will be happy with average internet speeds in 2023 that are only 1/4 of what Japan had in 2009.

Our internet speeds are too slow and too expensive. In Slovakia it's possible to get 36Mb/s down, 6 Mb/s up speeds for €9 a month, and many other countries also outperform Australian internet for speed and price. Why can't we get something that fast and cheap?

“Why can't we get something that fast and cheap?”

We have the Liberals in.

And some still think Turnbull is a moderate Lib. Nah, just a far right whinger.

Why would he want to be Comms Minister under monkey? Any Leadership ambitions he has/had would be better served on the backbench but he hoes right in, $millions in worthless reports, about to buy back the rotten Telstra copper. He doesn’t believe in Fraudband himself—notice how touchy he was when asked simple questions about the nonsense he is peddling—so he is doing so for. . .what? Because NBN Co was evil, government owned? Right Wing Nut Job!

Its like SA's one way freeway all over again...crikey the Libs never look into the future when they do things

One thing gives me hope—Telstra copper is so shot no FTTN will be run out in any bar a few carefully selected areas so Labor can resume running out the NBN in 2016.

I reckon SA, and Vic after next state election, can run out a fair bit of fibre themselves. With $80Bn of cuts to funding for health and education Fibre to each school, doctor’s clinic and rural hospital, fibre to homes the smaller schools and hospitals can be saved by sharing specialised staff via telepresence.

SA—$400m a year for 8–10 years to run out FTTH in SA is very doable.