We should close this down.


Quote:

A LOGAN man believed to be the brother of Australia’s first suicide bomber in Syria is running a bookshop south of Brisbane which is accused of promoting extremist views.    The Courier-Mail has been told that the iQraa Islamic Centre at Underwood had developed ties to firebrand Perth preacher Mohammed Junaid Thorne. The centre this year “promoted’’ and helped raise funds for two “sermons’’ by the self-styled preacher, who is a vocal supporter of jihad and has had ties to the Australian branch of the Millatu Ibrahim group, which is banned in Germany. It can also be revealed the centre hosted a lecture this year on what followers should do if they were contacted by national security organisation ASIO. The lecture included being aware of the “tell-tale’’ signs of spies and examples of when a group had been infiltrated. But a spokesman for the Logan centre said it merely engaged people to speak on a range of opinions. A key figure in the bookshop is Omar Succarieh, who in an online promotional video is described as “one of the main brothers’’ at the centre. Succarieh’s brother Ahmed has been investigated by Australian agencies in relation to a suicide bombing in Syria, where a truck laden with 12 tonnes of explosives was driven into an army checkpoint last September, killing 35. The Courier-Mail tried unsuccessfully to obtain comment from Omar Succarieh but members of Brisbane’s Muslim community who know Ahmed said they had been told he was “living in Turkey’’. A source told The Courier-Mail: “My concern is that this Islamic centre is supporting extreme views. “I feel this bookshop needs exposing more widely so the community around it, both Muslim and non-Muslim (which is largely oblivious to the activities), can be aware of what is being promoted. “I suspect many local Muslims may be unaware of the tone of some of its activities and believe many Brisbane people would be alarmed.’’ Omar Succarieh could not be contacted about the claims the bookshop was “linked to extremists’’. However, a spokesman for the bookshop said: “As far as my knowledge of the centre is concerned they have invited many speakers and, according to them, they allow speakers of different views to speak without discriminating against them.’’ Muslim community leader Ali Kadri said he believed only a “handful’’ of supporters had attended the talks conducted by Mohammed Junaid Thorne. “I can assure the wider community that the overwhelming majority of the Muslims in Australia, and across the world, do not condone any form of extremism and violence,’’ Mr Kadri said. AN ISLAMIC bookshop in Brisbane has been selling literature promoting the subjugation of women and domestic violence, including one book that recommends “hanging a whip in a visible place” in the home. While the iQraa Islamic Centre does offer books promoting peaceful coexistence and respect for women, it also carries on its shelves books that call for men to restrict the movements and employment opportunities of their wives and some that even assert that “beating” can be used “as a last resort”. One such book, Forty Solutions to your Marriage Problems, describes the “Jewish plan to emancipate women and thus corrupt them and society” and says women “should remain in (their) homes, but go out only if it is necessary”. It discourages women working, unless “necessary”, because it may lead to mixing with the opposite sex and possibly “illegal sexual intercourse”. Author Muhammad Salih Al-Munajjid also lists as recommendation 25 “hanging a whip in a visible place”. “Hinting at punishment in different ways is one of the elegant methods of punishment,” he writes. He does note that it has been previously said that the whip is not explicitly “meant for beating”. Another book, The Ingredients for a Happy Marriage, notes that “it is medically proven that when a woman who has never given birth uses contraceptive pills, she may become barren for the rest of her life”. A series of children’s books “for impressionable young minds”, called The Need For Creed, detail the torture of non-believers in hell. Graphic descriptions of eternal damnation and the end days also exist in Christian literature.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/islamic-bookshop-run-by-brother-of-suicide-bomber-promotes-extremism/story-fnihsrf2-1227049545344

Needs a couple of bricks through the windows and a visit from a CFMEU organiser

;D

If you got a drum of fuel and let it pour under the door and lit it, allah snackbar problem solved.

How do these specialist bookshops survive if only a 'tiny minority' support the views they promote?

If you dont like the books dont buy them, stop your complaining.

shaky3d wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 6:19pm:

If you got a drum of fuel and let it pour under the door and lit it, allah snackbar problem solved.

Thanks for the tip off.

When that does happen i know what info to give to crimestoppers.

wally1 wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 8:25am:

If you dont like the books dont buy them, stop your complaining.

It's obvious that 'tiny minority' bromide is a lie. Bookshops catering to  ' tiny minorities' wouldn't survive.

It's a tiny minority of a tiny minority, minus the ones fighting for ISIS in Iraq.

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 6:18pm:

Needs a couple of bricks through the windows and a visit from a CFMEU organiser ;D

shaky3d wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 6:19pm:

If you got a drum of fuel and let it pour under the door and lit it, allah snackbar problem solved.

NOT HELPFUL GUYS!!!!!!!




Promoting and encouraging violent and unlawful acts is illegal.

We live in a country in which the people supposedly respect the force of law.

Without widespread respect for the law of the land, we [our Australian society] would descend into being like Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Somalia, etc, etc - which is exactly what moslems are trying to achieve.

Moslems want to destroy all of the institutions in Australia, which help to maintain a peaceful and functioning society.


SUGGESTION;
If you live in Australia and you don't like what ISLAM promotes         then you should contact your federal parliamentary representative - EXPLAIN TO HIM/HER WHY YOU DO NOT LIKE ISLAM AND MOSLEMS - and encourage your federal parliamentary representative to try to get ISLAM lawfully declared a proscribed [banned] group in Australia.

Act within the law.

Otherwise we are no better than moslems.



Proverbs 22:24
Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go:
25  Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul.

Proverbs 28:7
Whoso keepeth the law is a wise son: but he that is a companion of riotous men shameth his father.i

All moslems are wanna-be murderers - it is as plain as the nose on your face.

ISLAM should be a declared a proscribed [banned] group in Australia.

Any person who self declares as a 'moslem' should be expelled from Australia, or, [for the national security and safety of Australia] lawfully held in internment until they can be removed from Australia.



Just examine the religious philosophy societal philosophy which all moslems endorse and have choosen to embrace and to empower!!!.....


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85


"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193


"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196






+++


Please watch this YT...

Mild mannered - Mohammed Morsi -
Ex-President of Egypt

"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg







"What makes Allah happy?
Allah is happy, when kafir get killed."

Please watch this YT...
Muslims being deceptive Islam EX-Muslims         goto 4m 30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZx8cNSC9O0





Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking of the London 7/7 bombing;

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

Soren wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 7:47am:

How do these specialist bookshops survive if only a 'tiny minority' support the views they promote?

How do you know they sell any books at all? Perhaps it's run at a financial loss.

That article is a shoddy piece of journalism if Sprint has reproduced it accurately. 

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 10:33am:

Soren wrote on Sep 7th, 2014 at 7:47am: How do these specialist bookshops survive if only a 'tiny minority' support the views they promote? How do you know they sell any books at all? Perhaps it's run at a financial loss. That article is a shoddy piece of journalism if Sprint has reproduced it accurately.

Yeah, the risorgimento of Islamic learning, no?

How do you know anything about islamist fronts, whether bookshops, charities, schools, prayer halls, gyms, prisons, muftis?
They run a parallel underground society - in full view and full knowledge of the 'vast majority' who are also of that parallel world but who of course see nothing, hear nothing, know nothing.

shaky3d wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 6:19pm:

If you got a drum of fuel and let it pour under the door and lit it, allah snackbar problem solved.

A prima facie case of serious racial vilification under Australia law I believe. 

It would be covered by Sections 20B and 20D of the NSW ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1977.

It would be covered by Section 24 of the Victorian RACIAL AND RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE ACT 2001.

It would be covered by Section 131 of the Queensland ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1991.

It would be covered by Section 4 of the South Australian ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1991.

It would be covered by Section 19 of the Tasmanian ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1998.

It would be covered by Section 80A and 80B of the Western Australian CRIMINAL CODE AMENDMENT (RACIAL VILIFICATION) ACT 2004

It may be covered by Section 18C of the Commonwealth RACIAL DISCRIMINATION ACT 1975.

In all, incitement to violence on the basis of racial/religious grounds is illegal.

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 2:22pm:

shaky3d wrote on Sep 6th, 2014 at 6:19pm: If you got a drum of fuel and let it pour under the door and lit it, allah snackbar problem solved. A prima facie case of serious racial vilification under Australia law I believe.  It would be covered by Sections 20B and 20D of the NSW ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1977. It would be covered by Section 24 of the Victorian RACIAL AND RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE ACT 2001. It would be covered by Section 131 of the Queensland ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1991. It would be covered by Section 4 of the South Australian ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1991. It would be covered by Section 19 of the Tasmanian ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1998. It would be covered by Section 80A and 80B of the Western Australian CRIMINAL CODE AMENDMENT (RACIAL VILIFICATION) ACT 2004 It may be covered by Section 18C of the Commonwealth RACIAL DISCRIMINATION ACT 1975. In all, incitement to violence on the basis of racial/religious grounds is illegal.

Don't worry apologist, if a bomb goes off there will be revenge. The Australia Islamic community is very vulnerable. If you are happy for there to be bookshops peddling hate then that's your problem.

Soren wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 9:06am:

wally1 wrote on Sep 7th, 2014 at 8:25am: If you dont like the books dont buy them, stop your complaining. It's obvious that 'tiny minority' bromide is a lie. Bookshops catering to  ' tiny minorities' wouldn't survive.

Who says the entire bookshop caters to the "tiny minority"?  Just as it is possible in most bookshops to walk in and find something offensive to someone, I don't doubt you can find something offensive to you, Soren in even the most innocuous Islamic bookshop...    ::)

Cherry-picking titles doesn't tell us how popular they are nor how many are carried in stock.  "Oh, yeah, that one, some bloke ordered it in and never came back to collect it..." "It came in a job-lot from that publisher."  You haven't heard the bookshop's side of the issue, have you? However, you refuse to give anybody who is Muslim a fair go, Soren.  Ever.    ::)

shaky3d wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 6:19pm:

If you got a drum of fuel and let it pour under the door and lit it, allah snackbar problem solved.

Sounds like incitement to a terrorist act.

I hope the authorities have gotten your IP address.

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

shaky3d wrote on Sep 6th, 2014 at 6:19pm: If you got a drum of fuel and let it pour under the door and lit it, allah snackbar problem solved. Sounds like incitement to a terrorist act. I hope the authorities have gotten your IP address.

f ark off deadbeat.

so what if they do, there are thousands of Australians lining up to do the job.

shaky3d wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 7th, 2014 at 2:22pm: shaky3d wrote on Sep 6th, 2014 at 6:19pm: If you got a drum of fuel and let it pour under the door and lit it, allah snackbar problem solved. A prima facie case of serious racial vilification under Australia law I believe.  It would be covered by Sections 20B and 20D of the NSW ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1977. It would be covered by Section 24 of the Victorian RACIAL AND RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE ACT 2001. It would be covered by Section 131 of the Queensland ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1991. It would be covered by Section 4 of the South Australian ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1991. It would be covered by Section 19 of the Tasmanian ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1998. It would be covered by Section 80A and 80B of the Western Australian CRIMINAL CODE AMENDMENT (RACIAL VILIFICATION) ACT 2004 It may be covered by Section 18C of the Commonwealth RACIAL DISCRIMINATION ACT 1975. In all, incitement to violence on the basis of racial/religious grounds is illegal. Don't worry apologist, if a bomb goes off there will be revenge. The Australia Islamic community is very vulnerable. If you are happy for there to be bookshops peddling hate then that's your problem.

I do worry there will indeed be revenge if you carry out your threat, Shakey.

As to the books?  Who cares?  I could walk into virtually any library and find stuff which was as offensive or worse. You going to advocate burning down libraries as well?   ::)

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

shaky3d wrote on Sep 6th, 2014 at 6:19pm: If you got a drum of fuel and let it pour under the door and lit it, allah snackbar problem solved. Sounds like incitement to a terrorist act.

Indeed.  It would be, as I've pointed out a case of Serious Racial Vilification in most Australian jurisdictions.  Shakey should realise what he is doing. Is suspect he doesn't understand or more than likely not care because of his bigotry.   ::)


Quote:

I hope the authorities have gotten your IP address.

Mildly difficult but not impossible.  A court order would suffice.

shaky3d wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 6:19pm:

If you got a drum of fuel and let it pour under the door and lit it, allah snackbar problem solved.

So, FD, do you condone such a prime facie beach of Australia's laws?  You appear rather unconcerned by it or the intent it conveys.  Perhaps because you agree with him?   What are your views on people making such statements, inciting violence against people on the basis of their racial/religious group membership?    ::)

I suspect you'll duck the issue of the sort of debate you're fostering...   ::)

I hope they have your ip address. Treason is a capital offence. I'd love to see you do the Spandau ballet along with all the traitors of this country; greens win, Julian assange, greggory peccary etc

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 6:16pm:

Quote: Author Muhammad Salih Al-Munajjid also lists as recommendation 25 “hanging a whip in a visible place”.

So how is this different from the many Christian leaders who advocate beating family members.



Quote:

Romney's new BFF Pat Robertson recommends wife-beating since divorce isn't an option ...you could beat her. [...] This man’s got to stand up to her and he can’t let her get away with this stuff. I don’t think we condone wife-beating these days but something has got to be done... dailykos.com/story/2012/09/10/1130000/-Romney-s-new-BFF-Pat-Robertson-recommends-wife-beating-since-divorce-isn-t-an-option#

Quote:

Nadine Dorries Urges Amazon To Ban Christian 'Abuse' Parenting Book, 'How To Train Up Your Child' ...advocates beating children as young as four months old... ...includes instructions like: "If you have to sit on him to spank him then do not hesitate. And hold him there until he is surrendered. Prove that you are bigger, tougher, more patiently enduring and are unmoved by his wailing. Defeat him totally. Accept no conditions for surrender. No compromise... ...written by the Christian evangelist couple... ...In 2011, it was alleged that a copy of the book was found in the home of Larry and Carri Williams, from Washington State, who were convicted of manslaughter this year, after their 13-year-old daughter Hana, adopted from Ethiopia was found naked, frozen to death, outside their home. Hana was kept in a locked closet, starved for days, forbidden from using the bathroom and beaten daily with a plumbing tool... huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/07/child-abuse-ban_n_4232693.html

shaky3d wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 2:37pm:

I hope they have your ip address. Treason is a capital offence. I'd love to see you do the Spandau ballet along with all the traitors of this country; greens win, Julian assange, greggory peccary etc

Disagreeing with you doesn't constitute "treason", Shakey.  You appear to over-identify your beliefs with what the Nation demands of it's citizens WRT loyality.   I've affirmed my loyalty to Queen, nation and government several times in my life.  Have you, ever?   ::)

your treasonous attitudes to Australia and her people pour through the monitor Benidict. I'm sure you've whored yourself in all manner of ceremonial genuflections, however. For myself, I have no doubts as to my loyalty to Australia and her white, Christian heritage.

shaky3d wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 2:51pm:

your treasonous attitudes to Australia and her people pour through the monitor Benidict. I'm sure you've whored yourself in all manner of ceremonial genuflections, however. For myself, I have no doubts as to my loyalty to Australia and her white, Christian heritage.

What "treasonous attitudes"?   How is suggesting that everybody, no matter what their religion, is entitled to a fair go - a true Australian attitude, "treasonous", Shaky?

I note you've avoided my question.  I take you have never affirmed your loyalty to this nation?  Indeed, how do we even know you're Australian?   ::)

You don't and you never will because everything I say on here could be a lie, couldn't it? However, I think you believe everything you say. that's what makes you a traitor of this country. you generally hate the white, Christian sons and daughters of Britishers that have made this country great. at the same time, you don't have the balls to emigrate to one of those preferable 'tinted' countries. that makes you an even greater scoundrel/coward than Karnal or Gangalf.

shaky3d wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 3:01pm:

You don't and you never will because everything I say on here could be a lie, couldn't it?

Yes, Matty, it could be.  ;)

Is it though?   So, you don't believe that getting a, "drum of fuel and let it pour under the door and lit it, allah snackbar problem solved?"

If you don't, then you are a troll.   ::)


Quote:

However, I think you believe everything you say. that's what makes you a traitor of this country. you generally hate the white, Christian sons and daughters of Britishers that have made this country great. at the same time, you don't have the balls to emigrate to one of those preferable 'tinted' countries. that makes you an even greater scoundrel/coward than Karnal or Gangalf.

You have evidence that I have ever expressed hatred for "the white, Christian sons and daughters of Britishers that have made this country great?"

Please, if you have, post it here.  I'd like to read it.

Or could it be that you are simply allowing hyperbole to run what little brain you have?   You believe I've said those things because I've expressed sympathy for those who you desire to persecute?   Such poor analysis.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

.....What are your views on people......inciting violence against people on the basis of their racial/religious group membership?    ::)

I do not understand brian.

???




brian,

Why doesn't your 'social conscience' extend too, to the behaviour which ISLAM encourages ???

e.g.
What about, what mainstream ISLAM teaches to the moslem, on the type of 'relationship' the righteous moslem should always have towards persons who do not believe, as moslems believe, brian ???





"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193


"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196



"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260







THE EFFECT UPON MEMBERS OF THE MOSLEM COMMUNITY OF SUCH TEACHINGS [Koran/Hadith verses above] ----->


Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking of the London 7/7 bombing;

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4i


THE EFFECT UPON MEMBERS OF THE MOSLEM COMMUNITY OF SUCH TEACHINGS ----->

IMAGE...
http://www.zionism-israel.com/ezine/Isllam2.jpg

"If you call us violent, ......we will kill you!!"



THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"



THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/iTHE EFFECT UPON MEMBERS OF THE MOSLEM COMMUNITY OF SUCH TEACHINGS ----->



BELOW - WHAT ISLAM IS, AND WHAT ISLAM PROMOTES IN THE WORLD     [i.e. WHEREVER MOSLEMS ARE FOUND];


IMAGE...
http://images.smh.com.au/2012/09/15/3637564/art-protest3-620x349.jpg
Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.
Moslems, religious bigots, 'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' and tolerant ISLAM and moslems really are -  towards those who don't hold with the views of ISIS of ISLAM and moslems.

Moslems on a Sydney street, openly demanding their right to exercise their 'freedom of religion',
.....the 'religious' right to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.

Yadda wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 7th, 2014 at 2:36pm: .....What are your views on people......inciting violence against people on the basis of their racial/religious group membership?    ::) I do not understand brian.

No, I wouldn't expect you to, Yadda.   ::)

brian,

You'll happily censure non-moslem 'racists'.

But you refuse to censure ISLAM, which is the inspiration for moslem 'racists'.

???


Dictionary;
censure = = express severe disapproval of; formally reprove.







Yadda wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

I do not understand brian.

i


+++


Please watch this YT...

Mild mannered - Mohammed Morsi -
Ex-President of Egypt

"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg







"What makes Allah happy?
Allah is happy, when kafir get killed."

Please watch this YT...
Muslims being deceptive Islam EX-Muslims         goto 4m 30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZx8cNSC9O0





Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking of the London 7/7 bombing;

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

Quote:

............AN ISLAMIC centre south of Brisbane has condemned the “traitorous actions” of an insider who exposed its ties to firebrand Perth preacher Mohammed Junaid Thorne.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/logan-city-islamic-centre-dismisses-ridiculous-claims-about-links-to-firebrand-preacher/story-fnihsrf2-1227050782236

note, the islamic centre did not deny that the firebrand preacher was there.
only that someone blabbed on him.

close down that centre.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 10:49am:

Quote:   ............AN ISLAMIC centre south of Brisbane has condemned the “traitorous actions” of an insider who exposed its ties to firebrand Perth preacher Mohammed Junaid Thorne. http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/logan-city-islamic-centre-dismisses-ridiculous-claims-about-links-to-firebrand-preacher/story-fnihsrf2-1227050782236 note, the islamic centre did not deny that the firebrand preacher was there. only that someone blabbed on him. close down that centre.

You keep calling to close down centres and mosques, but under what grounds?

Which laws have been broken, and which law would be used to close them down?

The Health Act? Company Law? Tax law? Queensland's new bikie act?

People will try to howl down such spineless apologism and keep calling to "close down that centre", but this is just self indulgence when there's no way to do so.

People have the right to meet, pray, and say things to each other. This is not illegal, and there are no laws to prevent it.

In Australia, people have the right to do these things. This is what separates us from the countries you criticize, such as Brunei. People have the right to meet and chat. Only when they start planning illegal things can the law stop them.

And this ia a good thing.

theyre fire hazards

brain wants to be gang raped by a gang of pakis

shaky3d wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 3:09pm:

brain wants to be gang raped by a gang of pakis

Does he?  Who is this "brain"?

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121123224529/looneytunes/images/a/ae/The_Brain.gif

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

he knows who he is

shaky3d wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 4:08pm:

he knows who he is

Does he?  You seem to as well.  Why not share the secret with us?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 10:49am:

Quote:   ............AN ISLAMIC centre south of Brisbane has condemned the “traitorous actions” of an insider who exposed its ties to firebrand Perth preacher Mohammed Junaid Thorne. http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/logan-city-islamic-centre-dismisses-ridiculous-claims-about-links-to-firebrand-preacher/story-fnihsrf2-1227050782236 note, the islamic centre did not deny that the firebrand preacher was there. only that someone blabbed on him. close down that centre.

That is an interesting press release. It appears to concede he was there, or at least try to excuse them hosting him, while at the same time trying to make it look like a lie.

Karnal wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 11:17am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 10:49am: Quote:   ............AN ISLAMIC centre south of Brisbane has condemned the “traitorous actions” of an insider who exposed its ties to firebrand Perth preacher Mohammed Junaid Thorne. http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/logan-city-islamic-centre-dismisses-ridiculous-claims-about-links-to-firebrand-preacher/story-fnihsrf2-1227050782236 note, the islamic centre did not deny that the firebrand preacher was there. only that someone blabbed on him. close down that centre. You keep calling to close down centres and mosques, but under what grounds? Which laws have been broken, and which law would be used to close them down? The Health Act? Company Law? Tax law? Queensland's new bikie act? People will try to howl down such spineless apologism and keep calling to "close down that centre", but this is just self indulgence when there's no way to do so. People have the right to meet, pray, and say things to each other. This is not illegal, and there are no laws to prevent it. In Australia, people have the right to do these things. This is what separates us from the countries you criticize, such as Brunei. People have the right to meet and chat. Only when they start planning illegal things can the law stop them. And this ia a good thing.

I enjoy having people like sprint in my country.

Who else is going to do our labouring jobs and pick up our rubbish at 4 in the morning.

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 7^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 7th, 2014 at 9:06am: wally1 wrote on Sep 7th, 2014 at 8:25am: If you dont like the books dont buy them, stop your complaining. It's obvious that 'tiny minority' bromide is a lie. Bookshops catering to  ' tiny minorities' wouldn't survive. Who says the entire bookshop caters to the "tiny minority"?  Just as it is possible in most bookshops to walk in and find something offensive to someone, I don't doubt you can find something offensive to you, Soren in even the most innocuous Islamic bookshop...    ::)

'Offensive to someone' - that's how a spineless apologist would put it.

Are they offensive to YOU? If not, why not?
If yes - why is your being offended immediately subservient, in the most craven, cowardly and reflexive way to the promoters of the offence?

wally1 wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 11:17am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 10:49am: Quote:   ............AN ISLAMIC centre south of Brisbane has condemned the “traitorous actions” of an insider who exposed its ties to firebrand Perth preacher Mohammed Junaid Thorne. http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/logan-city-islamic-centre-dismisses-ridiculous-claims-about-links-to-firebrand-preacher/story-fnihsrf2-1227050782236 note, the islamic centre did not deny that the firebrand preacher was there. only that someone blabbed on him. close down that centre. You keep calling to close down centres and mosques, but under what grounds? Which laws have been broken, and which law would be used to close them down? The Health Act? Company Law? Tax law? Queensland's new bikie act? People will try to howl down such spineless apologism and keep calling to "close down that centre", but this is just self indulgence when there's no way to do so. People have the right to meet, pray, and say things to each other. This is not illegal, and there are no laws to prevent it. In Australia, people have the right to do these things. This is what separates us from the countries you criticize, such as Brunei. People have the right to meet and chat. Only when they start planning illegal things can the law stop them. And this ia a good thing. I enjoy having people like sprint in my country. Who else is going to do our labouring jobs and pick up our rubbish at 4 in the morning.

It's not your country. You live here.
Not the same thing.

Soren wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 8:46pm:

wally1 wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 7:54pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 11:17am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 10:49am: Quote:   ............AN ISLAMIC centre south of Brisbane has condemned the “traitorous actions” of an insider who exposed its ties to firebrand Perth preacher Mohammed Junaid Thorne. http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/logan-city-islamic-centre-dismisses-ridiculous-claims-about-links-to-firebrand-preacher/story-fnihsrf2-1227050782236 note, the islamic centre did not deny that the firebrand preacher was there. only that someone blabbed on him. close down that centre. You keep calling to close down centres and mosques, but under what grounds? Which laws have been broken, and which law would be used to close them down? The Health Act? Company Law? Tax law? Queensland's new bikie act? People will try to howl down such spineless apologism and keep calling to "close down that centre", but this is just self indulgence when there's no way to do so. People have the right to meet, pray, and say things to each other. This is not illegal, and there are no laws to prevent it. In Australia, people have the right to do these things. This is what separates us from the countries you criticize, such as Brunei. People have the right to meet and chat. Only when they start planning illegal things can the law stop them. And this ia a good thing. I enjoy having people like sprint in my country. Who else is going to do our labouring jobs and pick up our rubbish at 4 in the morning. It's not your country. You live here. Not the same thing.

Fresh off the cheese boat, is he?

That explains everything. Wally is hosting a jolly fondue party. Bring your own Vok.

Lutheran prayer books will be provided.

shaky3d wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 3:09pm:

brain wants to be gang raped by a gang of pakis

Bags not go slops.

Karnal wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 8:46pm: wally1 wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 7:54pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 11:17am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 10:49am: Quote:   ............AN ISLAMIC centre south of Brisbane has condemned the “traitorous actions” of an insider who exposed its ties to firebrand Perth preacher Mohammed Junaid Thorne. http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/logan-city-islamic-centre-dismisses-ridiculous-claims-about-links-to-firebrand-preacher/story-fnihsrf2-1227050782236 note, the islamic centre did not deny that the firebrand preacher was there. only that someone blabbed on him. close down that centre. You keep calling to close down centres and mosques, but under what grounds? Which laws have been broken, and which law would be used to close them down? The Health Act? Company Law? Tax law? Queensland's new bikie act? People will try to howl down such spineless apologism and keep calling to "close down that centre", but this is just self indulgence when there's no way to do so. People have the right to meet, pray, and say things to each other. This is not illegal, and there are no laws to prevent it. In Australia, people have the right to do these things. This is what separates us from the countries you criticize, such as Brunei. People have the right to meet and chat. Only when they start planning illegal things can the law stop them. And this ia a good thing. I enjoy having people like sprint in my country. Who else is going to do our labouring jobs and pick up our rubbish at 4 in the morning. It's not your country. You live here. Not the same thing. Fresh off the cheese boat, is he? That explains everything. Wally is hosting a jolly fondue party. Bring your own Vok. Lutheran prayer books will be provided.

Same for you - this is not your country, it is your object of resentment and source of rancour. If you were to show the kind of resentment towards a person, you would be shown the frikken door and no mercy.

Soren wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 9:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 9:38pm: Soren wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 8:46pm: wally1 wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 7:54pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 11:17am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 10:49am: Quote:   ............AN ISLAMIC centre south of Brisbane has condemned the “traitorous actions” of an insider who exposed its ties to firebrand Perth preacher Mohammed Junaid Thorne. http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/logan-city-islamic-centre-dismisses-ridiculous-claims-about-links-to-firebrand-preacher/story-fnihsrf2-1227050782236 note, the islamic centre did not deny that the firebrand preacher was there. only that someone blabbed on him. close down that centre. You keep calling to close down centres and mosques, but under what grounds? Which laws have been broken, and which law would be used to close them down? The Health Act? Company Law? Tax law? Queensland's new bikie act? People will try to howl down such spineless apologism and keep calling to "close down that centre", but this is just self indulgence when there's no way to do so. People have the right to meet, pray, and say things to each other. This is not illegal, and there are no laws to prevent it. In Australia, people have the right to do these things. This is what separates us from the countries you criticize, such as Brunei. People have the right to meet and chat. Only when they start planning illegal things can the law stop them. And this ia a good thing. I enjoy having people like sprint in my country. Who else is going to do our labouring jobs and pick up our rubbish at 4 in the morning. It's not your country. You live here. Not the same thing. Fresh off the cheese boat, is he? That explains everything. Wally is hosting a jolly fondue party. Bring your own Vok. Lutheran prayer books will be provided. Same for you - this is not your country, it is your object of resentment and source of rancour. If you were to show the kind of resentment towards a person, you would be shown the frikken door and no mercy.

Aussie Aussie Aussie, eh?

We have so much love and mercy for you, old boy. You come to this country, go on life support, and give a Pakistani gerontologist and his team a job.

Nappy change? You’ll get your rogering after lights out.

Multiculturalism IS extremism.

Taipan wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 11:06pm:

Multiculturalism IS extremism.

You're one of the best examples we have of extremism in Australia mate!    ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

forcing multiculturalism on a country is the ultimate form of oppression

shaky3d wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

forcing multiculturalism on a country is the ultimate form of oppression

Where has it been forced?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

have we ever been given the opportunity to vote on it, Hot Load?

shaky3d wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:35pm:

have we ever been given the opportunity to vote on it, Hot Load?

Yes, many times.  Most particularly in 1998 when One Nation, the only part to run with an explicitly anti-Multicultural policy was treated with absolute contempt by the voters.   Even it's leader lost her (and their only) seat in federal parliament.    ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

one nation got 11% of the primary vote. (about the same as the greens) that's pretty awesome for a new party with limited advertising and universal criticism from do-gooders on both sides of parliament. you really should think a bit before you post, Hot Load

shaky3d wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

forcing multiculturalism on a country is the ultimate form of oppression

Now now, Shakey, the First Fleet were only trying to help, you know.

shaky3d wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:45pm:

one nation got 11% of the primary vote.

In the 1998 Federal Election (when Kim Beazley won the popular vote)?

No.

|dev|null wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

shaky3d wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 1:32pm: forcing multiculturalism on a country is the ultimate form of oppression Where has it been forced?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

havent they taken Christmas out of Xmas??.. what about swearing on the  Bible...what about Prayers in schools/parliament...only small things but thats how everything starts...

it wont be long and Happy Christmas will be Happy Holiday like the States...dont tell me thats not FORCED.

cods wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 2:58pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 1:33pm: shaky3d wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 1:32pm: forcing multiculturalism on a country is the ultimate form of oppression Where has it been forced?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D havent they taken Christmas out of Xmas??.. what about swearing on the  Bible...what about Prayers in schools/parliament...only small things but thats how everything starts... it wont be long and Happy Christmas will be Happy Holiday like the States...dont tell me thats not FORCED.

So it wont actually be Happy Holiday then.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:59pm:

shaky3d wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 1:45pm: one nation got 11% of the primary vote. In the 1998 Federal Election (when Kim Beazley won the popular vote)? No.

Actually, if the major parties didn't preference One Nation last, they would have been the Cliva Palmers of their time.

We'd all be speaking Pauline now.

Please explain?

cods wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 2:58pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 1:33pm: shaky3d wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 1:32pm: forcing multiculturalism on a country is the ultimate form of oppression Where has it been forced?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D havent they taken Christmas out of Xmas??

Spring has sprung. Here's the first post of the year about you-know-who stealing Christmas and spoiling our fun.

Thanks, dear. Happy Holidays!

shaky3d wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:45pm:

one nation got 11% of the primary vote. (about the same as the greens) that's pretty awesome for a new party with limited advertising and universal criticism from do-gooders on both sides of parliament. you really should think a bit before you post, Hot Load

11% isn't much higher than the normal informal vote.  Hardly something to be proud of.  It also meant (approximately) 89% of voters, voted against One Nation.  I know One Notion had problems with the concepts of democracy but even their supporters must realise such a rejection is still a rejection.   I suppose they have to put the best face possible on such a dismal outing.    ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

cods wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 2:58pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 1:33pm: shaky3d wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 1:32pm: forcing multiculturalism on a country is the ultimate form of oppression Where has it been forced?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D havent they taken Christmas out of Xmas??..

Commercial contraction of the word.  Nothing to do with Multiculturalism.


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what about swearing on the  Bible...

Still happens.  Did last time I was in court on Jury Duty.


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what about Prayers in schools/parliament...

Prays still occur in Parliament.  Prayers never occurred in school when I was a kid.  Shouldn't occur in either in my opinion, both should be secular.


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only small things but thats how everything starts...

Small things in your imagination! 


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it wont be long and Happy Christmas will be Happy Holiday like the States...dont tell me thats not FORCED.

Has it been because of government decree of because people feel they need to take into account other religions?  You got a problem with recognising Kwaanza?  Not everybody is Christian, afterall! ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 3:12pm:

shaky3d wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 1:45pm: one nation got 11% of the primary vote. (about the same as the greens) that's pretty awesome for a new party with limited advertising and universal criticism from do-gooders on both sides of parliament. you really should think a bit before you post, Hot Load 11% isn't much higher than the normal informal vote.

I think you'll find they got less than 9%.

Not sure where he got the 11% figure from.

http://australianpolitics.com/voting/statistics/primary-votes-hor-1993-98

|dev|null wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 3:17pm:

only small things but thats how everything starts... Small things in your imagination!

really !!is that why we have terrorists in jail in this country.....who planned  to bomb army barracks... ::) ::)

ok only a small thing I know

and  if they had killed everyone on camp,

big deal....

even more so  if  they werent related to yourself.. >:(

cods wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 3:30pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 3:17pm: only small things but thats how everything starts... Small things in your imagination!  really !!is that why we have terrorists in jail in this country.....who planned  to bomb army barracks... ::) ::)

And they started out 'cause they hated Christmas...

Yeah, sure.  What ever.  Please, get back to us when you have a clue.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Oh, and keep trying to associate me with them, despite their being no link between us.  Just reinforces how clueless you really are!   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 4:02pm:

cods wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 3:30pm: |dev|null wrote on Sep 9th, 2014 at 3:17pm: only small things but thats how everything starts... Small things in your imagination!  really !!is that why we have terrorists in jail in this country.....who planned  to bomb army barracks... ::) ::) And they started out 'cause they hated Christmas...

It started out because someone wished them a happy holiday.

Be careful what you wish for, effendes.