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Title: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by bogarde73 on Sep 11th, 2014 at 10:15am
The fad for the upward inflection - at the end of a phrase or sentence - came into use, what, about 20 years ago, or was it less than that?
No matter. Whatever Gen it was that took to it, they've sort of grown up with it and for many of them it has stuck. Now here's the theory. Not all that important, just another one of those little things that fill your day. I think that the upward inflection is like a question mark after the statement. It's a hesitant sort of search for support. In other words, "I'm saying this but I need to know you all agree with me" kind of request. But why is Gen whatever so lacking in confidence that it needs to follow everything it says with a cry for approval? Is this a product of the world of political correctness? |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 11th, 2014 at 10:23am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpBYnL5fAXE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3j4n5Jm1Qg
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Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by cods on Sep 11th, 2014 at 10:29am bogarde73 wrote on Sep 11th, 2014 at 10:15am:
and canned laughter doesnt do it for me either.... but its trivial really by todays standards.. it used to be a thing with 4 year olds.. WHY? m aybe we do look for approval at every turn... strewth wouldnt want to come on a forum like this then would you? |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by The Heartless Felon on Sep 11th, 2014 at 10:50am bogarde73 wrote on Sep 11th, 2014 at 10:15am:
It's been around for a long, long time Bogy, it's called the "Rising Interrogative". |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 11th, 2014 at 11:00am
One thing I think I have noticed in raising my kids is that the later generations are a lot more peer dependent then we ever were and that may be why their search for approval in their language may be more prominent. Just guessing you understand.
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Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by Laugh till you cry on Sep 11th, 2014 at 11:20am
Its the closet pom gene emerging causing serfs to seek to mentally prostrate themselves in front of others hoping a master will emerge from the flock.
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Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 11th, 2014 at 11:33am
Yes, the old Interrogative Erection at the end of every sentence, but.
I think it was teachers who introduced this upwards inflection when they would make a statement, with raised eye-brows and a searching look around the class, as though to say "OK? All agreed with that?" *** Incredibly, I actually have a cat that will call to me from another room with a normal "Meow .... meow?" a couple of times (ie "Where are you?") ... and if I don't answer, she'll then upward inflect the next "Meow?" just like a human. |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by bogarde73 on Sep 11th, 2014 at 1:15pm
Well that's another possibility . . .we got it from cats.
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Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by Team Froggie on Sep 11th, 2014 at 3:29pm
I can remember it back in the '50s in Primary School.
If a kid was giving an answer s/he was not sure of, the answer always came out sounding like a question. One teacher even used to ask if that 'answer was followed by a ?mark, or an !mark.....' :) |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by longweekend58 on Sep 11th, 2014 at 3:36pm bogarde73 wrote on Sep 11th, 2014 at 10:15am:
as I am older than 20 I can confirm that the rising interrogative has been part of language for a lot longer than that - perhaps since the dawn of time. I don't really get the point of your post. |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by John Smith on Sep 11th, 2014 at 3:38pm longweekend58 wrote on Sep 11th, 2014 at 3:36pm:
its called chit chat |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by The Heartless Felon on Sep 11th, 2014 at 4:36pm John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2014 at 3:38pm:
its called chit chat? |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by bogarde73 on Sep 11th, 2014 at 4:40pm
No No longie. Seriously. There came a time, I don't remember exactly, when young people were using it ALL the time.
It's not chit chat John. This is a serious socio-philosophic question, to which I urge you to turn your mind before intergenerational communication becomes significantly impaired. |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by John Smith on Sep 11th, 2014 at 4:43pm bogarde73 wrote on Sep 11th, 2014 at 4:40pm:
humans evolve as does the way we communicate .... deal with it. |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by JaSin on Sep 11th, 2014 at 4:57pm
Gee, if Americans are just catching onto this after its been a part of Australian language for so long... ::)
But hey: Australia originated 'Texting' with our lazy shortening of words: G'day, C'mon And Grunge was something known as Westie back in the 70's of the Sydney Western Suburbs. Current Generation is the: E-Generation. E-tag E-way E ...because 'E-verything' is E-lectronic now ...E-ven 'E-Cars'. |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 11th, 2014 at 5:16pm Jasin wrote on Sep 11th, 2014 at 4:57pm:
And E-clair - for those not up with the times, an E-clair is a 21st century word for a type of pastry filled with cream and often topped with chocolate. |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by longweekend58 on Sep 11th, 2014 at 5:32pm bogarde73 wrote on Sep 11th, 2014 at 4:40pm:
IM 56 I NEVER remember a time when this wasn't true. |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by Team_Oh_Yeah on Sep 11th, 2014 at 10:11pm bogarde73 wrote on Sep 11th, 2014 at 4:40pm:
Im 47 and I can't say that I have noticed it either. But then again intergenerational communication is now impossible with the gen y and gen z using "like" half a dozen times in each sentence. |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 12th, 2014 at 10:08am The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 11th, 2014 at 10:11pm:
... and the obligatory "bugger" 7 times in each sentence. Every day when school is let out at 3.00pm I have shoals of kids swanning past my place on their way home, using the most choice language as an imperative if they are not to be seen by their peers as gay or uncool. Like, needless to say, the girls are far worse than the boys. But. |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by Team_Oh_Yeah on Sep 13th, 2014 at 1:48pm Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 12th, 2014 at 10:08am:
To be fair though, absurd amounts of swearing is something teenagers have always done. It certainly happened when I was at school. |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 13th, 2014 at 1:58pm The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 1:48pm:
To be honest, we didn't swear much at boarding school. There was no such thing as 'a warning' for 'misbehaviour'. There was never any 'second chance'. To be caught swearing meant a caning. I've made up for it since then, of course. Fcukin' oath. 8-) |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by Team Knight Errant Grappler on Sep 13th, 2014 at 2:52pm ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11th, 2014 at 5:16pm:
e-Bowler? eVille? Welcome to eVille - the next stage in urban planning.... our housing grid is laid out on the eZy system so as to ensure that traveling salespersons and so forth can NEVER find you.. let alone ambulance and police when you need them - thus creating for them the eZy life! It is also eConomical to live in eVille! |
Title: Re: Here's a theory, knock it down. Post by bogarde73 on Sep 13th, 2014 at 2:54pm
I can't say that we swore much when I was at school but my memory might be unreliable on this.
Certainly we didn't go round using the F or C word in every other sentence. |
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