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How did a plane hit the pentagon and leave this hole?
Because no plane hit it.

wally1 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 10:12pm:

How did a plane hit the pentagon and leave this hole?
Because no plane hit it.

your image has no factual basis.
like most proislamics, false.

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http://i.imgur.com/nnEH73c.jpg

your image has no factual basis.
remove it or be reported

You did aak, Sprint.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 10:21pm:

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http://i.imgur.com/nnEH73c.jpg

your image has no factual basis.
remove it or be reported

On what grounds, Sprint? ::)

As I have a close friend who was in that wing of the Pentagon the week before the plane hit and knew many people who were there on that day, I'll take his word that it was a plane that did the damage, over Wally's but I'll defend Wally's right to claim what he wants, no matter how stupid it is, Sprint.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 9:49pm:

this is islam

No, that is just one interpretation of Islam, Sprint.

BTW, which Madrassah did you graduate from? ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 12:07am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 10:21pm:

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http://i.imgur.com/nnEH73c.jpg

your image has no factual basis.
remove it or be reported

Plane hit pentagon did it?Thats why walls still standing

Again hardly evidence that a plane hit.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 10:21pm:

remove it or be reported

Poor Sprint.

Who would have thought starting a thread called "ban islam" would have attracted such replies?

We should absolutely report and ban all these pesky opposing views. That'll show those freeedom haters whose morally superior.

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 2:21pm:

Wally - Photos Of Flt 77 Wreckage Inside The Pentagon... ::)

Of course your source in the pentagon is going to claim they saw a plane hit the pentagon.

Whats he going to say "Yeah Brian, it was a missile that hit the pentagon"

Then next day he is out of a job or a bullet in his head by the CIA.

wally1 wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 2:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 2:21pm:

Wally - Photos Of Flt 77 Wreckage Inside The Pentagon... ::)

So, Wally, how is your comment any different from the one about Taqiyya made against Muslims?

You going to address the testimony and the pictures or you going to continue to pontificate? ::)

wally1 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 10:14pm:

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Alan Sabrosky bills himself as the former Director of Studies at the U.S. Army War College. He has made quite a name for himself in recent months by first declaring himself a military expert with high-level connections in the U.S. military hierarchy, then by outrageously claiming that Israel was responsible for 9/11 and that the U.S. military knows this and is concealing it. While he offers no evidence for this, he claims that he should be trusted because of his "expertise". The truth of the matter -- with respect to both his background and his claims -- is quite different, of course.

Sabrosky was working at the US Army War College as an administrator. He never was the director or dean of the college. Far from it. According to the Press Office of the Army War College, in the mid-1980s, Sabrosky served as a civilian administrator at a research department of the college, supervising the publication of papers written within that department. Putting it simple, he was something like a librarian, a mid-level civilian manager at a military college, without access to the sort of highly classified material of the sort he now fraudulently claims to have. Moreover, he worked there 25 years ago. How on earth could someone who worked on the level of a college librarian in the 1980s be privy to top secret information about the 9/11? And how on earth could he be the only person to know about it or think it worth revealing?

The guy is making dough on 9/11 and on the hot wish of Arabs and their fans to make Israel look like a monster.

[url=https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101220052703AABuKsK]Source[/url]

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Alan Sabrosky bills himself as the former Director of Studies at the U.S. Army War College... Sabrosky has deliberately inflated his role in the military and has used that ruse to promote a hateful, fact-free conspiracy theory. In fact, while he did work as an administrator at the U.S. Army War College, he was not, as his job title seems to indicate, the director or dean of the college. Far from it. According to the Press Office of the Army War College, in the mid-1980s, Sabrosky served as a civilian administrator at a research department of the college, supervising the publication of papers written within that department. His job title was "Director of Studies" because he supervised publishing studies done within a department of the college. He was a mid-level civilian manager at a military college, without access to the sort of highly classified material of the sort he now fraudulently claims to have. Moreover, since his employment at that school was about 25 years ago, his employment there would provide him with no special insights with respect to 9/11. How on earth could someone who worked on the level of a college librarian in the 1980s be privy to top secret information revealing a vast hidden conspiracy? And how on earth could he be the only person to know about it or think it worth revealing?

An expert, privy to the highest levels of the military elite?

Over the past few years, Alan Sabrosky has become a fixture of anti-Israel media. In numerous, articles, interviews and blog postings, he literally does only two things: promotes conspiracy theories and compares Israel to Nazi Germany. As I mentioned above, most recently, he has taken this campaign to a new level of absurdity by claiming not only that Israel was responsible for carrying out the 9/11 attacks, but that most of the leadership of the U.S. military knows this and is keeping it secret in a vast conspiracy of silence. I don't know how many of thousands of officers Sabrosky includes in this conspiracy of silence, but, considering that not a single officer has broken it, it would certainly go down as the most successful such conspiracy in history if true. Only because of Sabrosky's impressive sounding resume, these reckless and baseless charges have been reposted and repeated countless times, albeit in biased and unreliable places.

[url=https://www.metabunk.org/threads/alan-sabrosky.3760/]Source[/url]

Not sure why people feel the need to create conspiracies. I usually prefer cock-ups as an explanation to most events. The reality is that a group of crackpot Muslims lunatics decided to fly planes into buildings to deliberately attack the US, as a nation and as a society. I suggest people learn to deal with the reality rather than creating myths to satisfy their atavistic hatreds.

The appeal to expertise as evidence when there is no real evidence is presented is an old trick which doesn't really work, Wally. ::)

Speaking of 11 September conspiracies, perhaps this is the only one I ascribe to:

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Washington — perhaps as many global powers have done in the past — uses what I might call the “immaculate conception” theory of crises abroad. That is, we believe we are essentially out there, just minding our own business, trying to help make the world right, only to be endlessly faced with a series of spontaneous, nasty challenges from abroad to which we must react. There is not the slightest consideration that perhaps US policies themselves may have at least contributed to a series of unfolding events. This presents a huge paradox: how can America on the one hand pride itself on being the world’s sole global superpower, with over seven hundred military bases abroad and the Pentagon’s huge global footprint, and yet, on the other hand, be oblivious to and unacknowledging of the magnitude of its own role — for better or for worse — as the dominant force charting the course of world events? This Alice-in-Wonderland delusion affects not just policy makers, but even the glut of think tanks that abound in Washington. In what may otherwise often be intelligent analysis of a foreign situation, the focus of each study is invariably the other country, the other culture, the negative intentions of other players; the impact of US actions and perceptions are quite absent from the equation. It is hard to point to serious analysis from mainstream publications or think tanks that address the role of the United States itself in helping create current problems or crises, through policies of omission or commission. We’re not even talking about blame here; we’re addressing the logical and self-evident fact that the actions of the world’s sole global superpower have huge consequences in the unfolding of international politics. They require examination.

Ultimately was it Washington's responsibility that those, "crackpot Muslims lunatics decided to fly planes into buildings to deliberately attack the US, as a nation and as a society"? Is provocation an adequate explanation?

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