Hamas admits it DID use schools and hospitals in Gaza Strip as 'human shields' to launch rocket attacks on Israel - but claims it was 'mistake'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2753176/Hamas-DID-use-schools-hospitals-Gaza-Strip-human-shields-launch-rocket-attacks-Israel-admits-says-mistake.html#ixzz3DEQftZd8

Firstly, they did not admit to using human shields as the Daily Fail alleged. They admitted to firing from residential areas but insisted they took measures to keep civilians away.

Secondly, everyone knew they fired from residential areas, thats just common sense - they'd last about 2 seconds operating out in the farms. Residential terrain provides the only viable cover

Why did you move the topic here?

Because thats where all the hamas threads are.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 1:16pm:

Firstly, they did not admit to using human shields as the Daily Fail alleged. They admitted to firing from residential areas but insisted they took measures to keep civilians away. Secondly, everyone knew they fired from residential areas, thats just common sense - they'd last about 2 seconds operating out in the farms. Residential terrain provides the only viable cover

"the only viable cover"  ???

But gandalf, tell us,     why do these Holy Warriors of Allah need 'cover' ?

I thought that these Holy Warriors of Allah, were willing to sacrifice all, including their own lives, in their holy war against their evil Zionist foe ?

Am i mistaken ???



gandalf,

Aren't these Holy Warriors of Allah willing to die for Allah [in the way that they always claim, at their street/political rallies] ?

e.g.
Please watch this YT and watch the crowd, as they respond to calls for them to die for Allah's cause!!!!...


"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg






Instead, these Holy Warriors of Allah, choose to fire their rockets from among residential buildings.

So that they, the ones who have launched rockets, can initially remain indistinguishable from local residents,
and then in all of the confusion, they can run away quickly - with their tails between their legs.

How brave of them!

IMAGE.....
http://www.thenational.ae/storyimage/AB/20140726/ARTICLE/140729382/AR/0/&MaxW=640&imageVersion=default&AR-140729382.jpg

Gaza devastation - mother, you, the residents of Gaza have to make the sacrifice, so that we, the Holy Warriors of Allah, can take the fight to our evil Zionist foe.

Allah Akbar!!!! Allah Akbar!!!! Allah Akbar!!!!

How noble and brave of the Holy Warriors of Allah!         :P

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 1:16pm:

Firstly, they did not admit to using human shields as the Daily Fail alleged. They admitted to firing from residential areas but insisted they took measures to keep civilians away. Secondly, everyone knew they fired from residential areas, thats just common sense - they'd last about 2 seconds operating out in the farms. Residential terrain provides the only viable cover

Well, looks like the bvggers wanted to be hit. They shouldn't complain. They got exactly what they wanted: they love death more than they love their children (as they say themselves).

Good point guys - it makes perfect sense for a militant group trying to inflict (at least some) damage to their enemy - to position themselves to ensure they will inflict no damage at all.  :P

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 3:19pm:

Good point guys - it makes perfect sense for a militant group trying to inflict (at least some) damage to their enemy - to position themselves to ensure they will inflict no damage at all.  :P

A militant group - and 'the vast majority of peaceful Muslims' who elected them.

Btw, have you seen the balance sheet of damage inflicted? Did you or games expect it is to be different when they started it? No. Yet they went ahead and kept at it.

Death cult is correct.

Adamant wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 1:02pm:

Hamas admits it DID use schools and hospitals in Gaza Strip as 'human shields' to launch rocket attacks on Israel - but claims it was 'mistake' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2753176/Hamas-DID-use-schools-hospitals-Gaza-Strip-human-shields-launch-rocket-attacks-Israel-admits-says-mistake.html#ixzz3DEQftZd8

Adamant, would you care to point out in that article Hamas said any such thing?  I can't find it, except in the headline.  I wouldn't want to think you or the Daily Mail were lying...   ::)

Soren wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 3:32pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 3:19pm: Good point guys - it makes perfect sense for a militant group trying to inflict (at least some) damage to their enemy - to position themselves to ensure they will inflict no damage at all.  :P A militant group - and 'the vast majority of peaceful Muslims' who elected them.

Mmm, Hama is in government where?  The Gaza Strip.  Somehow I can't see the "vast majority of peaceful Muslims" fitting into a tiny piece of land only 360 km², Soren.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 3:43pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 3:32pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 3:19pm: Good point guys - it makes perfect sense for a militant group trying to inflict (at least some) damage to their enemy - to position themselves to ensure they will inflict no damage at all.  :P A militant group - and 'the vast majority of peaceful Muslims' who elected them. Mmm, Hama is in government where?  The Gaza Strip.  Somehow I can't see the "vast majority of peaceful Muslims" fitting into a tiny piece of land only 360 km², Soren.   ::)

However many Muslims there are in Gaza, the vast majority must be peaceful, no? Yet given a chance to show their true peacefulness, they elected terrorists.



But seriously - who, other than death cultists would behave like the Muslims of Gaza?
As for Israel's response - which country would have responded differently to a barrage of rockets? None. Self-defence is the only rational response.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 1:23pm:

Because thats where all the hamas threads are.

So they are not muslims then, followers of islam?

Soren wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 4:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 3:43pm: Soren wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 3:32pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 3:19pm: Good point guys - it makes perfect sense for a militant group trying to inflict (at least some) damage to their enemy - to position themselves to ensure they will inflict no damage at all.  :P A militant group - and 'the vast majority of peaceful Muslims' who elected them. Mmm, Hama is in government where?  The Gaza Strip.  Somehow I can't see the "vast majority of peaceful Muslims" fitting into a tiny piece of land only 360 km², Soren.   ::) However many Muslims there are in Gaza, the vast majority must be peaceful, no? Yet given a chance to show their true peacefulness, they elected terrorists.

You assume that the distribution of peacful moderates is uniform, Soren.  Why?


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But seriously - who, other than death cultists would behave like the Muslims of Gaza?

I can think of several alternative explanations.  Get back to me when you want to hear them.  I won't bother posting them now 'cause I know your mind is already closed, Soren.   ::)


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As for Israel's response - which country would have responded differently to a barrage of rockets? None. Self-defence is the only rational response.

The response was like that of the United States to 11 September - heavily manufactured.   Perhaps if Netanyahu was a honest player in the Middle-East Peace process things might have been different.   As I've said before, both Hamas and the Israeli Government get what they want out of the Israeli response to the Hamas rockets. 

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 1:16pm:

Firstly, they did not admit to using human shields as the Daily Fail alleged. They admitted to firing from residential areas but insisted they took measures to keep civilians away. Secondly, everyone knew they fired from residential areas, thats just common sense - they'd last about 2 seconds operating out in the farms. Residential terrain provides the only viable cover

isnt it the same thing... but your saying its up to everyone else to kn ow that HAMAS would have made sure no resident was in residence...when they sent over a rocket....

you expect us to believe that..... :D


so just because over a 1000 people are dead...

it had not a thing to do with HAMAS keeping the weaponry in the residential areas...WOW..

where do the HAMAS people who make these decisions live??

couldnt they have swapped homes with the residents.. just  to show  good faith? ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 5:22pm:

Quote: As for Israel's response - which country would have responded differently to a barrage of rockets? None. Self-defence is the only rational response. The response was like that of the United States to 11 September - heavily manufactured.   Perhaps if Netanyahu was a honest player in the Middle-East Peace process things might have been different.   As I've said before, both Hamas and the Israeli Government get what they want out of the Israeli response to the Hamas rockets.

How do you justify hamas starting the rockets?

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 1:16pm:

Firstly, they did not admit to using human shields as the Daily Fail alleged. They admitted to firing from residential areas but insisted they took measures to keep civilians away.

gandalf,

Well that assertion is a crock of it, for a start.

There have been YT videos published, showing Hamas cadres beating Gaza civilians, who tried to evacuate their residences, AFTER ISRAEL WARNED THEM TO LEAVE THE AREA.

Hamas used schools and suchlike, believing that Israel would not fire into these zones and therefore they would get a 'Get out of gaol free card'.

Unfortunately for Hamas that strategy turned out wrong.

I'm not on either side in this, I'm just calling out their strategy for what it was. Hamas cocked up!

red baron wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 6:12pm:

Hamas used schools and suchlike, believing that Israel would not fire into these zones and therefore they would get a 'Get out of gaol free card'. Unfortunately for Hamas that strategy turned out wrong. I'm not on either side in this, I'm just calling out their strategy for what it was. Hamas cocked up!

red_baron,

Hamas WANTED large numbers of civilian casualties to eventuate, during the last Gaza 'war', imo.

It makes it a lot easier for Hamas, to then portray Israel as murders of civilians.

Yes, many, many Gazan civilians died in the last Gaza 'war'.

But that was the intent all along, of Hamas.

Yadda wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 6:10pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 1:16pm: Firstly, they did not admit to using human shields as the Daily Fail alleged. They admitted to firing from residential areas but insisted they took measures to keep civilians away. gandalf, Well that assertion is a crock of it, for a start. There have been YT videos published, showing Hamas cadres beating Gaza civilians, who tried to evacuate their residences, AFTER ISRAEL WARNED THEM TO LEAVE THE AREA.

Here is one video....

YT
"Published on Jul 22, 2014
War crime: Hamas members brutally beating civilians of Gaza who leave their homes following IDF warning......."

Hamas members brutally beating civilians of Gaza who leave their homes following IDF warning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBvhHE8ePxg



A pity the translation commentary is in German.

red baron wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 6:12pm:

Hamas used schools and suchlike, believing that Israel would not fire into these zones and therefore they would get a 'Get out of gaol free card'. Unfortunately for Hamas that strategy turned out wrong. I'm not on either side in this, I'm just calling out their strategy for what it was. Hamas cocked up!

True. Israel turned out to be quite happy to bomb hospitals and UN facilities.

Sorry - mother’s skirts.

Karnal wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 8:01pm:

red baron wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 6:12pm: Hamas used schools and suchlike, believing that Israel would not fire into these zones and therefore they would get a 'Get out of gaol free card'. Unfortunately for Hamas that strategy turned out wrong. I'm not on either side in this, I'm just calling out their strategy for what it was. Hamas cocked up! True. Israel turned out to be quite happy to bomb hospitals and UN facilities. Sorry - mother’s skirts.

What would you do, PB, IF it was your job to respond to Hamas rockets?

Karnal wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 8:01pm:

red baron wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 6:12pm: Hamas used schools and suchlike, believing that Israel would not fire into these zones and therefore they would get a 'Get out of gaol free card'. Unfortunately for Hamas that strategy turned out wrong. I'm not on either side in this, I'm just calling out their strategy for what it was. Hamas cocked up! True. Israel turned out to be quite happy to bomb hospitals and UN facilities.

Not true.


K,

You are a dissembler, a corrupter of what is true.

Israel clearly, DID NOT want to bomb hospitals and UN facilities, nor to attack residential areas.

BUT, Israel was not going to surrender to the Hamas's terrorist tactics used in that war [i.e. shooting from civilian areas], and thus give to Hamas terrorists immunity in the way that Hamas chose to conduct Hamas's war against Israeli civilians.


Dictionary;
dissemble = = hide or disguise one’s true motives or feelings.




We [the 'enemies of Allah'], must mercilessly punish moslem wrong doing, when we see it.

Otherwise, moslems will callously use our own concern for the life of moslems, as a way to wage an effective war against us.

We [the 'enemies of Allah'], must recognise, that moslems regard every single moslem [men, women AND children] within their 'jurisdiction' or within their control, as a lawful combatant and as an expendable asset to be used to defeat their 'infidel' enemy.

ISLAMIC doctrine teaches the moslem will fight against the infidel, with the same morality, as a 4 metre salt-water crocodile fights against other salt-water crocodiles.

Without any rules.


That is why the moslem combatant will - CALLOUSLY - bomb civilian markets, churches, mosques, and will even target [bomb] those who are attending funerals.

It is true.





Yadda said.....

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The sooner the people of Western nations come to understand this 'reality' [that moslems always support pro-ISLAMIC outcomes, 1st, 2nd and 3rd] to sooner we will be motivated, to start to separate ourselves from this lawless rabble that lives among us [i.e. moslems]. Yadda..... [quote] .....Hamas militants are cowards who are trying to protect their own militants, at the expense of casualties among Gazan civilians - because Hamas knows that Israel has no option but to 'return fire', or, to surrender to every demand that Hamas makes [or watch its own Israeli population be subjected to the terror of Hamas rockets]. [quote] Demanding that Israel does not 'shoot back' - whenever Hamas militants are found to be crouching behind a woman who is holding a small child in her arms - is choosing to surrender to Hamas's terrorist tactics, and is giving Hamas terrorists immunity in their 'freedom fighting' violence. Bibi explains it better that i can.... Israeli PM Netanyahu on CNN - FULL INTERVIEW 7_27_2014                  goto 7m 05s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pximx9vbXtE

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Soren wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 8:34pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 8:01pm: red baron wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 6:12pm: Hamas used schools and suchlike, believing that Israel would not fire into these zones and therefore they would get a 'Get out of gaol free card'. Unfortunately for Hamas that strategy turned out wrong. I'm not on either side in this, I'm just calling out their strategy for what it was. Hamas cocked up! True. Israel turned out to be quite happy to bomb hospitals and UN facilities. Sorry - mother’s skirts. What would you do, PB, IF it was your job to respond to Hamas rockets?

I’d make sure Mother was in the other room, old chap.

You?

Yadda, remember it is ok for apologists and muslims to use Taqiyya, means basically to LIE if it helps your end result.

THIS is what islam holds in store for those who do NOT submit to their brand of "justice.
British female jihadis are running an ultra-religious police force that punishes women for un-Islamic behaviour in territory controlled by Islamist terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph can disclose. New evidence shows a number of British female recruits to the Al-Khanssaa brigade, an all-women militia set up by the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham (ISIS).

This is what will happen all over the world as governments crawl to these muslims.
Here is a link: [code]
redicecreations.com/article.php?id=23514[/code]

Oh, I don’t think Y will forget that, Gryphon. I think he’ll be back in a mo to show evidence of just that.

Google: Taqiyya.

Karnal wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 10:43pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 8:01pm: red baron wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 6:12pm: Hamas used schools and suchlike, believing that Israel would not fire into these zones and therefore they would get a 'Get out of gaol free card'. Unfortunately for Hamas that strategy turned out wrong. I'm not on either side in this, I'm just calling out their strategy for what it was. Hamas cocked up! True. Israel turned out to be quite happy to bomb hospitals and UN facilities. Sorry - mother’s skirts. What would you do, PB, IF it was your job to respond to Hamas rockets? I’d make sure Mother was in the other room, old chap.

Yes, I know you are always fapping,PB,  and so want your mum in the other room.
But other than fapping, what ELSE would you do?

Then Yadda, Hamas' wish was granted.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 1:16pm:

Secondly, everyone knew they fired from residential areas, thats just common sense - they'd last about 2 seconds operating out in the farms. Residential terrain provides the only viable cover

It's a war crime to shoot from residential areas, are you saying everyone knows hamas are guilty of war crimes?

Yes hiding behind skirts of women and children does provide viable cover despite the fact it is a war crime.

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 5:22pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 4:01pm: [quote author=Brian_Ross link=1410577373/9#9 date=1410586991][quote author=soren2 link=1410577373/7#7 date=1410586355] [quote] But seriously - who, other than death cultists would behave like the Muslims of Gaza? I can think of several alternative explanations.  Get back to me when you want to hear them.  I won't bother posting them now 'cause I know your mind is already closed, Soren.   ::)

No you can't think of alternatives - you can think of stupid and implausible excuses but there is nothing new about that, is there?

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 10:50am:

t's a war crime to shoot from residential areas, are you saying everyone knows hamas are guilty of war crimes?

Sure why not?

Got nothing to do with the topic of whether or not they were using human shields though.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 10:50am: t's a war crime to shoot from residential areas, are you saying everyone knows hamas are guilty of war crimes? Sure why not? Got nothing to do with the topic of whether or not they were using human shields though.

It only counts as a human shield if you strap a child to your windscreen. Hiding behind your mother's skirt while firing rockets at Israel is completely different.

Soren wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 5:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13th, 2014 at 5:22pm: Quote: As for Israel's response - which country would have responded differently to a barrage of rockets? None. Self-defence is the only rational response. The response was like that of the United States to 11 September - heavily manufactured.   Perhaps if Netanyahu was a honest player in the Middle-East Peace process things might have been different.   As I've said before, both Hamas and the Israeli Government get what they want out of the Israeli response to the Hamas rockets.  How do you justify hamas starting the rockets?

I don't.  I can explain it though, if you're interested, which I suspect you aren't.  You'd mistake explanation for justification.   ::)

It's interesting how everybody is condemning Hamas, quite rightly too, BTW for using "human shields".

Yet, israel has a history of doing exactly the same thing:


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Israel Prior to 2008-2009 Gaza War Amnesty International[14] and Human Rights Watch[15] said the Israel Defense Forces used Palestinian civilians as human shields during the 2002 Battle of Jenin. The Israeli human rights group B'Tselem said that "for a long period of time following the outbreak of the second intifada, particularly during Operation Defensive Shield, in April 2002, the IDF systematically used Palestinian civilians as human shields, forcing them to carry out military actions which threatened their lives".[16][17] Al Mezan reported the systematic use of "human shields" during the invasion of Beit Hanoun in 2004.[18] In 2003, Israeli soldiers also employed human shields when trying to subdue a stone-throwing protest in Hebron.[19] One of the "human shields", a 32-year-old, told he was pulled from the barber's chair and forced to stand in front of soldiers along with two other men, also human shields, while soldiers fired rubber bullets on Palestinian protesters. He told he was beat up when he tried to cover his ears to protect them from the loud noise of the guns.[19] The Israeli military committed to stopping the practice but Israeli human rights groups said the army only ended the practice selectively and were in breach of court orders.[19] In 2004, an instance of human shield use by the Israeli border police in the West Bank was caught on camera by Daily Mail reporters. The story reported that a 13-year-old boy was captured by Israeli police as he took part in a stone-throwing protest and put in front of the jeep in order to deter other youths from throwing stones at the vehicle.[20] The story was led by an infamous picture of a boy in his early teens tied up to a military jeep.[21] The Israel Defense Forces admitted it had used Palestinians as human shields 1,200 times during the Second Intifada.[22] The practice was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice in 2005.[22][23] The Israeli Defense Ministry appealed this decision.[22][24] Specifically, while acknowledging and defending the "use of Palestinians to deliver warnings to wanted men about impending arrest operations", a practice known in Israel by the euphemism "neighbor procedure",[19] the IDF denied reports of "using Palestinians as human shields against attacks on IDF forces", claiming it had already forbidden this practice.[23] In 2006, initial investigations by B'Tselem indicated that the IDF may have used civilians as human shields in Beit Hanun.[25] In February 2007, Associated Press Television News released footage of an incident involving Sameh Amira, a 24-year-old Palestinian. The video shows the West Bank resident serving as a human shield for a group of Israeli soldiers.[26][27] A 15-year-old cousin of Amira and an 11 year-old girl in the West Bank independently told B'Tselem in February 2007 that, in separate incidents, Israeli soldiers forced each of them to open the door of a neighboring apartment belonging to a suspected militant, enter ahead of them, and open doors and windows.[28] The Israeli Army launched a criminal investigation into the aforementioned incident.[26] In April 2007, the Israeli army suspended a commander after the unit he was leading was accused of using Palestinians as human shields in a West Bank operation.[29] In April 2007 CBS News reported that Human rights groups said that there were still incidents of it in the IDF, although they say the number of instances had dropped.[16][26] During the 2008-2009 Gaza War

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During the 2008-2009 Gaza War During the 2008-2009 Gaza War known as Operation Cast Lead, Israeli military forces were accused of continuing to use civilians as human shields by Amnesty International and Breaking the Silence.[30] According to testimonies published by Amnesty International and Breaking the Silence, Israeli forces used unarmed Palestinians including children to protect military positions, walk in front of armed soldiers; go into buildings to check for booby traps or gunmen; and inspect suspicious objects for explosives.[30][31] Amnesty International claimed that the Israeli military used human shields during the Gaza War of 2008-2009, stating that it found cases in which "Israeli troops forced Palestinians to stay in one room of their home while turning the rest of the house into a base and sniper position, effectively using the families, both adults and children, as human shields and putting them at risk.[32] The UN Human Rights Council also accused Israel of using human shields during 2008-2009 Gaza Conflict.[33][34] The Guardian compiled three videos and testimony from civilians about alleged war crimes committed by Israeli soldiers during the 2008-2009 Gaza War, including the use of Palestinian children as human shields. In the videos three teenage brothers from the al-Attar family claimed that they were forced at gunpoint to kneel in front of tanks to deter Hamas fighters from firing at them and that they were used to "clear" houses for the Israeli soldiers.[35] An IDF soldier's testimony for Breaking the Silence told that his commander ordered that for every house raided by the IDF, they send a "neighbor" to go in before the soldier, sometimes while the soldier placed his gun on the neighbor's shoulder;[36] according to the soldier, "commanders said these were the instructions and we had to do it".[36] Gazan civilians also testified of being used at gunpoint as human shields by Israeli soldiers.[37] An Israeli military official responded to these allegations: "The IDF operated in accordance with the rules of war and did the utmost to minimise harm to civilians uninvolved in combat. The IDF's use of weapons conforms to international law." An Israeli embassy spokesperson considers these allegations suspect because of Hamas pressure, adding: "Anyone who understands the realities of Gaza will know that these people are not free to speak the truth. Those that wish to speak out cannot for fear of beatings, torture or execution at the hands of Hamas."[35] On March 12, 2010, the Israel Defense Forces prosecution filed indictments against two staff sergeants of the Givati Brigade for forcing a 9-year-old Palestinian boy to open a number of bags they thought might contain explosives in January 2009. The boy told he was hit by the soldiers and forced to work for them at gunpoint.[38] The IDF said it opened the investigation after the incident was brought to its attention by the United Nations.[39] On October 3, 2010, a conviction in this matter, accompanied by a demotion and suspended sentence, was handed down by the military court against both defendants, though neither soldier was actually jailed.[40][41][42] The sentence was criticized by Human Rights Watch[43] and the boy's mother.[38] 2009-2014 Gaza War A United Nations human rights body accused Israeli forces in June 2013 of "continuous use of Palestinian children as human shields and informants", voicing with deep concern 14 such cases had been reported between January 2010 and March 2013. It says almost all accused soldiers involved in the incidents have gone unpunished.[44] According to a former Israeli soldier interviewed by Breaking the Silence, the commander of his unit employed the policy, despite acknowledging that it was banned, because he would rather that a Palestinian civilian be killed carrying out the duty than one of his men.[45] He told young Palestinian boys were also used by this particular unit to carry out military duties for the Israeli army.[45] The Euro-Mid Observer for Human Rights has gathered testimony that, during the 2014 Gaza War, Israeli soldiers used Palestinian civilians as shield in the city of Khuzaa. A family told the group that Israeli soldiers killed the family's patriarch, a 65-year-old who was carrying a white flag, and proceeded to place family members, including children, by the house's windows and shoot from behind them.[46] Defense for Children International-Palestine reported 17-year-old, Ahmad Abu Raida, was kidnapped by Israeli soldiers, who, after beating him up and threatening him, at times with sexual overtones,[47] used him as a human shield for five days, forcing him to walk in front of them with police dogs at gunpoint, search houses and dig in places soldiers suspected there might be tunnels.[46][48][49]

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Will the Israelis receive equal condemnation?    ::)

Of course not!  They aren't Musselmen!  Surely you know by now, only Muslims get blamed for human rights abuses!   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 12:24am:

Will the Israelis receive equal condemnation?    ::)

Are you condemning Israel, how does that fit in with your inability to criticise Islam?


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I make no excuses for those nations and their laws,BV.I merely recognise it is their right to create and impose those punishments,It is terrible but i also recognise i have no right or ability to criticise them.I am neither a member of their religion or a citizen of any of those nations. www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1379233325

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 3:38pm:

It only counts as a human shield if you strap a child to your windscreen.

Ah yes - thanks for reminding me that you completely mocked the idea that Israel used human shields - despite the IDF itself admitting to the practice - and actually argued in the High Court that they should be allowed to use them  ;D

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 3:43pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 3:38pm: It only counts as a human shield if you strap a child to your windscreen. Ah yes - thanks for reminding me that you completely mocked the idea that Israel used human shields - despite the IDF itself admitting to the practice - and actually argued in the High Court that they should be allowed to use them  ;D

Exactly. The burden of proof for human windshields, however, is inferior to that of mother's skirts, which are alegedly abundant in Palestine.

You be careful of your allegations, G. FD is now targeting spineless apologists in the Wiki.