Australia will send 600 military personnel to the Middle East as part of international efforts to wipe out Islamic State extremists.Prime Minister Tony Abbott announced on Sunday Australia had received a specific request from the US government to contribute forces to possible military action in Iraq.Cabinet and its national security committee met on Sunday to discuss the matter.'The government has decided to prepare and to deploy to the United Arab Emirates a military force,' Mr Abbott told reporters in Darwin.Australia's contribution will include up to eight Super Hornet combat aircraft, an early warning and control aircraft and aerial refuelling aircraft.A contingent of Special Forces will be sent to potentially act as military advisers to Iraqi and other security forces.Four hundred air personnel and about 200 military personnel will be involved in the deployment. - See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2014/09/14/aust-to-send-force-of-600-to-mid-east.html#sthash.ZmOXUAHs.dpuf

Tony wabbit is a total tool.

There is a positive in that this will give our guys some valuable training over there.

It will teach our Airboys valuable lessons in how to carpet bomb, strafe, and deliver rockets with pin-point accuracy on our Muslim ghetto here in south west Sydney when they go rampaging through the streets with jihadi fervour looking for a uniformed soldier to behead.

Personally, in a carpet-bombing mission over Auburn, Punchbowl, Lakemba, and Bankstown I would unload a score of 44 gallon drums of Zyklon-B to quieten down these fractious Mohammedans.

The Sunday paper reports that an ADF soldier in uniform was verbally assaulted by a group of Muslims in the heart of Sydney last week. They were very hostile and aggressive towards him.

No doubt, once again, as happened when the Iraq policing action happened, our Australian soldiers will be told not to wear their uniforms in public as this attracts the 'wrong sort of attention' from certain members of the public.

It's incredible. You've got to pinch yourself to make sure you're not dreaming.

And STILL that imbecile Tony Abbott is happy to preside over an immigration program that invites yet more Muslims to come join this lot that we have here already.

 

This 'arab kills arab' shitfight against 'evil' has nothing to do with us....and don't even attempt to discuss with me Abbott's motives in getting us involved.  This has zero relevance to any Treaty ~ nothing.  It is Abbott's War, not Australia's or even Team Australia's.

Ferk you Abbott.  There is evil everywhere on the Planet not just in Iraq/Syria.

Bloody warmongering arsehole!

Perses wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 5:09pm:

Tony wabbit is a total tool.

Good to see you are happy to let the Islamic State terrorists carry on killing innocents, with no response from Western nations.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:16pm:

Perses wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 5:09pm: Tony wabbit is a total tool. Good to see you are happy to let the Islamic State terrorists carry on killing innocents, with no response from Western nations.

Is Beast United (formerly denizens Gizmo and Lostweekend58) going to volunteer or send in voluntary additional tax donations to support the war?
Fat Chance......Fat Chance......Fat Chance......Fat Chance.
If Beast United could weaponize its flapping  flailing lips it would be a force to contend with.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:21pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:16pm: Perses wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 5:09pm: Tony wabbit is a total tool. Good to see you are happy to let the Islamic State terrorists carry on killing innocents, with no response from Western nations. Is Beast United (formerly denizens Gizmo and Lostweekend58) going to volunteer or send in voluntary additional tax donations to support the war? If Beast United could weaponize its flapping  flailing lips it would be a force to contend with.

Still haven't give up on your pathetic homosexual fantasies LTYC I see

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:16pm:

Perses wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 5:09pm: Tony wabbit is a total tool. Good to see you are happy to let the Islamic State terrorists carry on killing innocents, with no response from Western nations.

4 times the Americans, and by extension us, have gone to the middle east to 'prevent the killing  of innocents' and 4 times they've left it in much worse condition than when they got there ...

when will they learn that sending troops there is not the answer?

John Smith wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:33pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:16pm: Perses wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 5:09pm: Tony wabbit is a total tool. Good to see you are happy to let the Islamic State terrorists carry on killing innocents, with no response from Western nations. 4 times the Americans, and by extension us, have gone to the middle east to 'prevent the killing  of innocents' and 4 times they've left it in much worse condition than when they got there ... when will they learn that sending troops there is not the answer?

So what IS the answer then??

Why bother?? What a mistake getting involved in that part of the world.

Dumb, brainwashed canon fodder

Good to see your happy America gets away with killing anyone it wants ,

Good to see you are happy to let the Islamic State terrorists carry on killing innocents, with no response from Western nations.[/quote]

Russia is the next American target and idiot tony Wabbit will tag along like a puppy dog.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:33pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:16pm: Perses wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 5:09pm: Tony wabbit is a total tool. Good to see you are happy to let the Islamic State terrorists carry on killing innocents, with no response from Western nations. 4 times the Americans, and by extension us, have gone to the middle east to 'prevent the killing  of innocents' and 4 times they've left it in much worse condition than when they got there ... when will they learn that sending troops there is not the answer? So what IS the answer then??

the short answer, nuke the whole middle east and be done with it

the long answer, Islam is where christianity was 800 - 900 yrs ago .... back then if you tried to tell the church they were wrong in their beliefs they would have beheaded you too .... it'll take time for Islam to work through it, lots of time ... but only they can work it out, outside influence will only be seen as an attack. I'll also point out that they have one major disadvantage that the church didn't, they don't have a heirarcy that the lower echelons follow ... any nutjob who calls himself an iman can say what he likes and some d1ckhead will believe it. There is no quick fix.

Perses wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:47pm:

Russia is the next American target and idiot tony Wabbit will tag along like a puppy dog.

No, actually Russia isn't 'the American next target' at all. Both Russia AND America know that a real, proper combat war can't be won by either of them.

true to form ,

the declaration was made on 9/11

http://america.aljazeera.com/blogs/scrutineer/2014/9/11/obama-sidesteps-congressindeclaringwar.html

this is satanic ritual that some keep falling for

many see through the deceptions now

as divine light continues to descend

.....upon this mother earth

with so very much love

so be it

namaste

- : ) =

John Smith wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:39pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:33pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:16pm: Perses wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 5:09pm: Tony wabbit is a total tool. Good to see you are happy to let the Islamic State terrorists carry on killing innocents, with no response from Western nations. 4 times the Americans, and by extension us, have gone to the middle east to 'prevent the killing  of innocents' and 4 times they've left it in much worse condition than when they got there ... when will they learn that sending troops there is not the answer? So what IS the answer then?? the short answer, nuke the whole middle east and be done with it the long answer, Islam is where christianity was 800 - 900 yrs ago .... back then if you tried to tell the church they were wrong in their beliefs they would have beheaded you too .... it'll take time for Islam to work through it, lots of time ... but only they can work it out, outside influence will only be seen as an attack. I'll also point out that they have one major disadvantage that the church didn't, they don't have a heirarcy that the lower echelons follow ... any nutjob who calls himself an iman can say what he likes and some d1ckhead will believe it. There is no quick fix.

Which would be all well and good, if Islam didn't have access to modern weaponry and technology. The extremists inside Islam have never shown the slightest interest in evolving.

And the 'modernisation of Christianity was very long and bloody process, which, in a nuclear and CBW world, would not be confined purely to Islam, or the Middle East.

Quote:

Which would be all well and good, if Islam didn't have access to modern weaponry and technology. The extremists inside Islam have never shown the slightest interest in evolving.

what like this ?

http://www.booksshouldbefree.com/image/detail/Atomic-Bombings-of-Hiroshima-Nagasaki.jpg

Sounds good to me. These people need to be stopped.

I'd put money on it  that the Jews in the American elite are a part of this and many of the other decisions directed at this part of the world. Heading Israel's way is a major radical Islamic offensive being both well armed, well financed and well motivated. Do nothing ( I agree) but don't think it's going to end at Iraq and Syria. This is the start of a massacre.

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

Sounds good to me. These people need to be stopped.

many blessings

an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind

and so ... it would not be logical to pursue such a thing

one may suggest with forgiveness

namaste

- : ) =

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:08pm:

I'd put money on it  that the Jews in the American elite are a part of this and many of the other decisions directed at this part of the world. Heading Israel's way is a major radical Islamic offensive being both well armed, well financed and well motivated. Do nothing ( I agree) but don't think it's going to end at Iraq and Syria. This is the start of a massacre.

this of course is logic in action

many blessings

namaste

- : ) =

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

Sounds good to me. These people need to be stopped.

Sure.....but what the ferk has it got to do with us?  Let the Arabs fight it out ~ where they live.  We have zero sovereign interest in it.  Are we now the 'evil' whisperer?  Nah.  There is evil everywhere.

This is pure and simple Abbott's War declared for electoral support.  I hope the very violent street demos start tomorrow......very violent to match the violence we will commit where we have no right to be. Is there anyone here who can explain to me what right we have to start killing Arabs.....good ones or bad ones......on their soil/sand?   That'll be jolly.


Ferk you and your crap, Abbott/freediver!

it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:16pm:

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:08pm: I'd put money on it  that the Jews in the American elite are a part of this and many of the other decisions directed at this part of the world. Heading Israel's way is a major radical Islamic offensive being both well armed, well financed and well motivated. Do nothing ( I agree) but don't think it's going to end at Iraq and Syria. This is the start of a massacre. this of course is logic in action many blessings namaste - : ) =

Let's hope the Jews don't pop off a nuke if they come under major attack by ISIS. That might start off a chain reaction. It's a pretty bad destabilizing state of affairs. The middle east is well known as a great possibility for the place where  the world ends.

Aussie wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:16pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:05pm: Sounds good to me. These people need to be stopped. Sure.....but what the ferk has it got to do with us?  Let the Arabs fight it out ~ where they live.  We have zero sovereign interest in it.  Are we now the 'evil' whisperer?  Nah.  There is evil everywhere. This is pure and simple Abbott's War declared for electoral support.  I hope the very violent street demos start tomorrow......very violent to match the violence we will commit where we have no right to be. Is there anyone here who can explain to me what right we have to start killing Arabs.....good ones or bad ones......on their soil/sand?   That'll be jolly. Ferk you and your crap, Abbott/freediver!

you hope violence starts tomorrow from your armchair ?

you sound like abbott sending others to do your dirty work

and calling for violence ... you portray that which you oppose

this is forgiven so be at peace

namaste

- : ) =

Aussie wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:16pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:05pm: Sounds good to me. These people need to be stopped. Sure.....but what the ferk has it got to do with us?  Let the Arabs fight it out ~ where they live.  We have zero sovereign interest in it.  Are we now the 'evil' whisperer?  Nah.  There is evil everywhere. This is pure and simple Abbott's War declared for electoral support.  I hope the very violent street demos start tomorrow......very violent to match the violence we will commit where we have no right to be. Is there anyone here who can explain to me what right we have to start killing Arabs.....good ones or bad ones......on their soil/sand?   That'll be jolly. Ferk you and your crap, Abbott/freediver!

What does the poo-hole that is modern Iraq have to do with us? Hmmm, let me think....

What you are saying is no different to appeasers in the 30's insisting that Hitler slaughtering Jews is not their problem. This is not the sort of problem that will go away if we ignore it. The Iraqis could contain it, but when the yanks first started crapping on ISIS from a great height, it stopped them in their tracks. We are not even sending in ground troops. This is a training run for our air force.

it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

Quote: Which would be all well and good, if Islam didn't have access to modern weaponry and technology. The extremists inside Islam have never shown the slightest interest in evolving. what like this ? http://www.booksshouldbefree.com/image/detail/Atomic-Bombings-of-Hiroshima-Nagasaki.jpg

Yes, exactly like that.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:52pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:39pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:33pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:16pm: Perses wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 5:09pm: Tony wabbit is a total tool. Good to see you are happy to let the Islamic State terrorists carry on killing innocents, with no response from Western nations. 4 times the Americans, and by extension us, have gone to the middle east to 'prevent the killing  of innocents' and 4 times they've left it in much worse condition than when they got there ... when will they learn that sending troops there is not the answer? So what IS the answer then?? the short answer, nuke the whole middle east and be done with it the long answer, Islam is where christianity was 800 - 900 yrs ago .... back then if you tried to tell the church they were wrong in their beliefs they would have beheaded you too .... it'll take time for Islam to work through it, lots of time ... but only they can work it out, outside influence will only be seen as an attack. I'll also point out that they have one major disadvantage that the church didn't, they don't have a heirarcy that the lower echelons follow ... any nutjob who calls himself an iman can say what he likes and some d1ckhead will believe it. There is no quick fix. Which would be all well and good, if Islam didn't have access to modern weaponry and technology. The extremists inside Islam have never shown the slightest interest in evolving. And the 'modernisation of Christianity was very long and bloody process, which, in a nuclear and CBW world, would not be confined purely to Islam, or the Middle East.

modern weaponry? they have a few guns and rockets, nothing we really need to worry about, and anything they have they'll use on each other long before it has a chance to get to Australia ...

extremists of any nature don't ever wish to evolve ... but Islam will evolve regardless

if they ever gain nuclear capability then we can go back to my first solution and carpet bomb the whole middle east with nukes, until then, we've nothing to worry about ....

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:16pm: freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:05pm: Sounds good to me. These people need to be stopped. Sure.....but what the ferk has it got to do with us?  Let the Arabs fight it out ~ where they live.  We have zero sovereign interest in it.  Are we now the 'evil' whisperer?  Nah.  There is evil everywhere. This is pure and simple Abbott's War declared for electoral support.  I hope the very violent street demos start tomorrow......very violent to match the violence we will commit where we have no right to be. Is there anyone here who can explain to me what right we have to start killing Arabs.....good ones or bad ones......on their soil/sand?   That'll be jolly. Ferk you and your crap, Abbott/freediver! What does the poo-hole that is modern Iraq have to do with us? Hmmm, let me think.... What you are saying is no different to appeasers in the 30's insisting that Hitler slaughtering Jews is not their problem. This is not the sort of problem that will go away if we ignore it. The Iraqis could contain it, but when the yanks first started crapping on ISIS from a great height, it stopped them in their tracks. We are not even sending in ground troops. This is a training run for our air force.

Your ignorance is not bliss.  It is blind to reality.


Quote:

and about 200 military personnel will be involved in the deployment.

You have not explained what right we have to be murdering Arabs.  I want you to tell me where that right comes from.

What do you think they will be doing Aussie?

John Smith wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:01pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:52pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:39pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:33pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:16pm: Perses wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 5:09pm: Tony wabbit is a total tool. Good to see you are happy to let the Islamic State terrorists carry on killing innocents, with no response from Western nations. 4 times the Americans, and by extension us, have gone to the middle east to 'prevent the killing  of innocents' and 4 times they've left it in much worse condition than when they got there ... when will they learn that sending troops there is not the answer? So what IS the answer then?? the short answer, nuke the whole middle east and be done with it the long answer, Islam is where christianity was 800 - 900 yrs ago .... back then if you tried to tell the church they were wrong in their beliefs they would have beheaded you too .... it'll take time for Islam to work through it, lots of time ... but only they can work it out, outside influence will only be seen as an attack. I'll also point out that they have one major disadvantage that the church didn't, they don't have a heirarcy that the lower echelons follow ... any nutjob who calls himself an iman can say what he likes and some d1ckhead will believe it. There is no quick fix. Which would be all well and good, if Islam didn't have access to modern weaponry and technology. The extremists inside Islam have never shown the slightest interest in evolving. And the 'modernisation of Christianity was very long and bloody process, which, in a nuclear and CBW world, would not be confined purely to Islam, or the Middle East. modern weaponry? they have a few guns and rockets, nothing we really need to worry about, and anything they have they'll use on each other long before it has a chance to get to Australia ... extremists of any nature don't ever wish to evolve ... but Islam will evolve regardless if they ever gain nuclear capability then we can go back to my first solution and carpet bomb the whole middle east with nukes, until then, we've nothing to worry about ....

We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already.

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:36pm:

We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already.

if you check Australias history, you'll find we've always had fruitloops of some form or other ... so what ? One guy talking himself up in the suburbs is not a reason to go to war.

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:36pm:

What do you think they will be doing Aussie?

My guess is that they are SAS....and will be boots on the ground.

Stop dodging freediver.......the fundamental question is this:


Quote:

I want you to tell me where that right comes from.

Why have we declared War on a group of people in some strange land we have no sovereign interest in?

John Smith wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:01pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:52pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:39pm: John Smith wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:33pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:16pm: Perses wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 5:09pm: Tony wabbit is a total tool. Good to see you are happy to let the Islamic State terrorists carry on killing innocents, with no response from Western nations. 4 times the Americans, and by extension us, have gone to the middle east to 'prevent the killing  of innocents' and 4 times they've left it in much worse condition than when they got there ... when will they learn that sending troops there is not the answer? So what IS the answer then?? the short answer, nuke the whole middle east and be done with it the long answer, Islam is where christianity was 800 - 900 yrs ago .... back then if you tried to tell the church they were wrong in their beliefs they would have beheaded you too .... it'll take time for Islam to work through it, lots of time ... but only they can work it out, outside influence will only be seen as an attack. I'll also point out that they have one major disadvantage that the church didn't, they don't have a heirarcy that the lower echelons follow ... any nutjob who calls himself an iman can say what he likes and some d1ckhead will believe it. There is no quick fix. Which would be all well and good, if Islam didn't have access to modern weaponry and technology. The extremists inside Islam have never shown the slightest interest in evolving. And the 'modernisation of Christianity was very long and bloody process, which, in a nuclear and CBW world, would not be confined purely to Islam, or the Middle East. modern weaponry? they have a few guns and rockets, nothing we really need to worry about, and anything they have they'll use on each other long before it has a chance to get to Australia ... extremists of any nature don't ever wish to evolve ... but Islam will evolve regardless if they ever gain nuclear capability then we can go back to my first solution and carpet bomb the whole middle east with nukes, until then, we've nothing to worry about ....

Sorry, but the extremists groups around NOW (ISIS, Hamas etc) only have a few guns and rockets. But if it comes to a full on Reformation of Islam type deal (ala any of the Catholic/Christian Reformation) that may well change. So far, the technologically advance Arab nations have stayed pretty much on the sidelines, but an all out Sunni vs Shii'te religious war wouldn't allow them to do that.

Quote:

We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already.

When they attack me here, I'll happily blow their fphucking heads off.......here.

Aussie wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:34pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:22pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:16pm: freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:05pm: Sounds good to me. These people need to be stopped. Sure.....but what the ferk has it got to do with us?  Let the Arabs fight it out ~ where they live.  We have zero sovereign interest in it.  Are we now the 'evil' whisperer?  Nah.  There is evil everywhere. This is pure and simple Abbott's War declared for electoral support.  I hope the very violent street demos start tomorrow......very violent to match the violence we will commit where we have no right to be. Is there anyone here who can explain to me what right we have to start killing Arabs.....good ones or bad ones......on their soil/sand?   That'll be jolly. Ferk you and your crap, Abbott/freediver! What does the poo-hole that is modern Iraq have to do with us? Hmmm, let me think.... What you are saying is no different to appeasers in the 30's insisting that Hitler slaughtering Jews is not their problem. This is not the sort of problem that will go away if we ignore it. The Iraqis could contain it, but when the yanks first started crapping on ISIS from a great height, it stopped them in their tracks. We are not even sending in ground troops. This is a training run for our air force. Your ignorance is not bliss.  It is blind to reality. Quote: and about 200 military personnel will be involved in the deployment. You have not explained what right we have to be murdering Arabs.  I want you to tell me where that right comes from.

you care not a jot about people shot down in a plane and now you want to care about people who commit murder and genocide????

where does the right come from??? a place you will never know about because cowards never enter there.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:41pm:

Sorry, but the extremists groups around NOW (ISIS, Hamas etc) only have a few guns and rockets. But if it comes to a full on Reformation of Islam type deal (ala any of the Catholic/Christian Reformation) that may well change. So far, the technologically advance Arab nations have stayed pretty much on the sidelines, but an all out Sunni vs Shii'te religious war wouldn't allow them to do that.

I'm happy to go back to my first option any time .....

Perses wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 5:08pm:

Australia's contribution will include up to eight Super Hornet combat aircraft, an early warning and control aircraft and aerial refuelling aircraft.A contingent of Special Forces will be sent to potentially act as military advisers to Iraqi and other security forces.Four hundred air personnel and about 200 military personnel will be involved in the deployment. - See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2014/09/14/aust-to-send-force-of-600-to-mid-east.html#sthash.ZmOXUAHs.dpuf

Our FA-18 use the Israeli designed LITENING target pod for our precision weapons,tried and proven military technology, the same Israeli company made the pill camera you swallow to film your digestive system.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LITENING

It looks like 200 of our finest SAS troops will be on the ground giving coordinates to the planes for aerial strikes.

The Saudis-Iraqis-UAE etc all have impressive military hardware,they have no understanding of logistics or maintenance to keep this hardware operational for any length of time.

oh look out, the sanctimonious longy is back ... pretending to care once again

John Smith wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:36pm: We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already. if you check Australias history, you'll find we've always had fruitloops of some form or other ... so what ? One guy talking himself up in the suburbs is not a reason to go to war.

There's a lot more to the issue than is being talked about. One issue is Israel. Do nothing about ISIL but it won't go away. Get involved and the terrorist threat will go up here . I'm afraid the terrorist threat will always be because we are western and mostly Christian. Sick old world.

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you care not a jot about people shot down in a plane and now you want to care about people who commit murder and genocide???? where does the right come from??? a place you will never know about because cowards never enter there.

'A place,' hey?  Where is this place?  How much does it cost to get there, and do I need a visa.  Does QANTAS have regular flights to it, huh melielongtime?

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this is mistaken identity none will fall for

all see through the deceptions

as my divine light continues to descend

.....upon this mother earth

with so very much love

so be it

namaste

- : ) =
     

Aussie,

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this is mistaken identity none will fall for all see through the deceptions as my divine light continues to descend .....upon this mother earth with so very much love so be it namaste - : ) =

I see that master Light has converted you too.

Don't worry - Tony Abbott will fix those ISIS barbarians.

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:40pm: jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:36pm: We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already. if you check Australias history, you'll find we've always had fruitloops of some form or other ... so what ? One guy talking himself up in the suburbs is not a reason to go to war. There's a lot more to the issue than is being talked about. One issue is Israel. Do nothing about ISIL but it won't go away. Get involved and the terrorist threat will go up here . I'm afraid the terrorist threat will always be because we are western and mostly Christian. Sick old world.

I agree, the issue is very complex ... thats why there is no quick fix, sending soldiers won't fix a thing, it'll just turn more people against the west

Yay!!! A war!

Budget? What budget?

Aussie wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:

Why have we declared War on a group of people in some strange land we have no sovereign interest in?

FD doesn't think we screwed up Iraq quite enough the first time around.

He'll also call me a spineless apologist and/or "typical muslim [insert stereotype]" for even hinting that the power vacuum we created in Iraq had anything to do with the rise of ISIS.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 9:52pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:40pm: Why have we declared War on a group of people in some strange land we have no sovereign interest in? FD doesn't think we screwed up Iraq quite enough the first time around. He'll also call me a spineless apologist and/or "typical muslim [insert stereotype]" for even hinting that the power vacuum we created in Iraq had anything to do with the rise of ISIS.

It took me a couple of years, Muso even less....to work out the guy is of bugger all worth.  All he is good for is trolling for comment to put into his Wiki.  Surely you know that?? Yeas?

I've never met anyone anywhere on the www as principled as was Muso.

I am a clairvoyant. Didn't I say on this very forum that if Abbott gets elected he will take us into another war? Abbott's been piddling his pants for a war since day one. I'd like to hear the phone call from Obama asking for our help, or maybe that's fake too, just like Abbott's sympathy when a soldier comes home in a coffin.

Next thing......youth unemployment = conscription

Come on boys and girls, another ten years in the middle east fighting the US created enemy.

Tony must have a war levy to send more money to Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Qatar to keep the terrorists fully mobile. Always remember.....no enemy, no war.

Actions needed to be taken by Freedom loving Nations to stop the Genocide that ISIS is carrying out.

The world stood silent when Hitler rose to power until it became such a problem that the world had no choice.

Far better to attack this before ISIS becomes all powerful in the Middle East. It's genocide of Christians and Muslims alike cannot be condoned.

For too long the world has stood silent, whilst terrible genocides have taken place.

We can't expect the U.S. to do it by themselves.

What some are saying on this subject that it's O.K. for genocides to occur as long as it's not affecting us. I'm not buying that.

Aussie wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:36pm: What do you think they will be doing Aussie? My guess is that they are SAS....and will be boots on the ground. Stop dodging freediver.......the fundamental question is this: Quote: I want you to tell me where that right comes from. Why have we declared War on a group of people in some strange land we have no sovereign interest in?

The closest they will come to boots on the ground is training Iraqis and Kurds. 200 is not a ground invasion force.

We are there because ISIS are evil and we are in a position to help stop them. We are there because the Iraqi government asked for our help. We are there because we owe it to them to finish what we started.

Aussie wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:42pm:

Quote: We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already. When they attack me here, I'll happily blow their fphucking heads off.......here.

It just goes to prove how little you know about strategic defence.


Even a child understands you don't wait until they are attacking you in your own back yard, you don't claim hero status by hiding behind women and children until it is too late. You go out and kill your enemy in their front yard and you do it fast as you can.


I wish our troops all the best and a speedy return and once again our troops do their job with great professionalism and without complaint.

Aussie wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:42pm:

Quote: We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already. When they attack me here, I'll happily blow their fphucking heads off.......here.

And who will be left to help you out? Divide yourself and be conquered eh?

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

Sounds good to me. These people need to be stopped.

Maybe not.

The history of the Middle East is that they butcher and murder one another for tribal and religious reasons until finally a strong dictator emerges who brings peace and stability to the warring sides through mini-genocides, torture chambers, and localised gassings.

If left alone, this latest Islamic horde of Medieval savages will eventually establish a dictatorial caliphate from which successive ayatollahs will make sure there is no insurrection, and the tribal warlords will all behave themselves while paying taxes on their opium production.

And should the West ~ particularly the Americans ~ try to militarily interfere with this scene of domestic bliss ~ they will, as usual, be condemned by one-and-all as monsters of conceit for trying to bring democracy and personal freedom to the inhabitants.

'Islamic State' is best left well enough alone to fulfil its historic destiny for being just the latest in a long tradition of how Arabs have always decided who should rule over them.

We westerners don't understand how much these Middle Eastern Muslims appreciate and respect leaderships that are achieved through violence and mass-slaughter. 

Needless to say, it's a no-brainer that we should be dropping more sophisticated weaponry to the Islamic State fighters to hurry things up a bit.

The quicker they achieve their ends, the sooner we can all relax and go back to what we were doing.

As things are now, Iraq is going to drain our national funds for years to come to the tune of billions each year in order to keep things politically 'stable' over there. Abbott is committing Australia to becoming embedded in Iraq at enormous cost to our economy.

And the question begs: Where are the blue-helmeted UN forces in Iraq? Why aren't they over there fighting IS and maintaining a policing action there ~ and sharing the expence of these operations?

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 8:02am:

freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:05pm: Sounds good to me. These people need to be stopped. Maybe not. The history of the Middle East is that they butcher and murder one another for tribal and religious reasons until finally a strong dictator emerges who brings peace and stability to the warring sides through mini-genocides, torture chambers, and localised gassings. If left alone, this latest Islamic horde of Medieval savages will eventually establish a dictatorial caliphate from which successive ayatollahs will make sure there is no insurrection, and the tribal warlords will all behave themselves while paying taxes on their opium production. And should the West ~ particularly the Americans ~ try to militarily interfere with this scene of domestic bliss ~ they will, as usual, be condemned by one-and-all as monsters of conceit for trying to bring democracy and personal freedom to the inhabitants. 'Islamic State' is best left well enough alone to fulfil its historic destiny for being just the latest in a long tradition of how Arabs have always decided who should rule over them. We westerners don't understand how much these Middle Eastern Muslims appreciate and respect leaderships that are achieved through violence and mass-slaughter.  Needless to say, it's a no-brainer that we should be dropping more sophisticated weaponry to the Islamic State fighters to hurry things up a bit. The quicker they achieve their ends, the sooner we can all relax and go back to what we were doing. As things are now, Iraq is going to drain our national funds for years to come to the tune of billions each year in order to keep things politically 'stable' over there. Abbott is committing Australia to becoming embedded in Iraq at enormous cost to our economy. And the question begs: Where are the blue-helmeted UN forces in Iraq? Why aren't they over there fighting IS and maintaining a policing action there ~ and sharing the expence of these operations?

because the UN is utterly ineffective and useless.  Even when they DO do anything of note it is still the USA an NATO that does all the work while the whiners do nothing, as always.

Aussie wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:08pm:

This 'arab kills arab' shitfight against 'evil' has nothing to do with us....and don't even attempt to discuss with me Abbott's motives in getting us involved.  This has zero relevance to any Treaty ~ nothing.  It is Abbott's War, not Australia's or even Team Australia's. Ferk you Abbott.  There is evil everywhere on the Planet not just in Iraq/Syria. Bloody warmongering arsehole!

With full support of the ALP – slipped your mind no doubt, you would be such a disingenuous tool deliberately, would you?


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gone wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:42pm:

Dumb, brainwashed canon fodder

You mean Perses?? YES, he really is..

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

Aussie wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:42pm: Quote: We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already. When they attack me here, I'll happily blow their fphucking heads off.......here. And who will be left to help you out? Divide yourself and be conquered eh?

Yep..that is basically the problem..idiots seem to think if it 'hasn't happened here, it never will'..

Life_goes_on wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 8:54pm:

Yay!!! A war! Budget? What budget?

The Guv should just bite the bullet and sell War Bonds.... get some decent sidearms, something about 7.62 calibre..... goes better than 200-300 yards... with accuracy.... and goes through smaller trees, too.  Bloke I know copped a leg wound, went down in the killing zone, and his mate shot the other guy through a palm tree... right through both.... good old 7.62....

The Islamic State fighters are using captured US weapons given to moderate rebels in Syria by Saudi Arabia. "Captured US weapons?" Where and how are they "capturing" these US weapons? Let's call it for what it is... The US is illegally arming and flaming these conflicts. No enemy = no war.

Look throughout history, all the great empires were collapsing prior to wars.  USA national debt, $16 trillion and growing, plenty of reason to keep the war machine rolling. Go out with a fight.....why not?

Pesky old Putin got in the way of the first attempt to get Assad by intervening with peaceful negotiations, but the US will always create a reason to overtake middle eastern nations.

Go war!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Abbott jumped the gun sending troops to Iraq to encourage a terrorist attack on home soil so he has a valid reason to initiate conscription, youth unemployment drops, country goes broke but Abbott can't get the blame because it was the war effort that caused the debt.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y3yr0kMhuw

Michael Savage Explodes on Traitor Obama and Corruption in Opening Segment - 9/16/14

Published on Sep 16, 2014
Radio Commentary by Michael Savage Aired on September 16, 2014 --- Michael Savage Website: http://www.michaelsavage.com
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it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 17^th, 2014 at 6:22pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y3yr0kMhuw Michael Savage Explodes on Traitor Obama and Corruption in Opening Segment - 9/16/14 Published on Sep 16, 2014 Radio Commentary by Michael Savage Aired on September 16, 2014 --- Michael Savage Website: http://www.michaelsavage.com Category News & Politics

Yes master Light,
he is right about Obama sending 3,00 troops to fight Ebola:

http://www.vox.com/2014/9/16/6219061/white-house-committs-3000-troops-to-fight-ebola

Lord Herbert perhaps we should name you Lord Haw Law, in honour of that famous English traitor who broadcast against his own countrymen from Nazis Germany.

Talk about the Enemy Within.

Please explain to all of us a what a mini Genocide is??????  Chapter and verse please. :D :D :D :D :D :D

Either it's  a Genocide or it isn't.

What a load of rubbish you churn out.

red baron wrote on Sep 17^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:

Lord Herbert perhaps we should name you Lord Haw Law, in honour of that famous English traitor who broadcast against his own countrymen from Nazis Germany. Talk about the Enemy Within. Please explain to all of us a what a mini Genocide is??????  Chapter and verse please. :D :D :D :D :D :D Either it's  a Genocide or it isn't. What a load of rubbish you churn out.

I don't reckon that the term genocide is appropriate to this scenario.  This is one ideology trying to trump another among Arabs, and that is a pointless exercise as centuries have proven.  It also has proven that the West has no relevant part to play.