Logan mosque targeted with anti-Muslim pamphlets, sparking fears of violence.

So, can we please see Freediver, Sprintcyclist, Moses, Soren, Baronvert, Yadda condemn these pamphlets and the possibility of violence against innocent Muslims?

Or will they applaud them and stand by their beliefs and be heading up to Logan to foment and take part in Islamophobic violence against innocent Muslims who have committed no crimes?

Or will they continue to hide behind their computer terminals and just part-take in some virtual persecution of innocent Muslims and their religion, like the cowards they are?    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 11:38pm:

Logan mosque targeted with anti-Muslim pamphlets, sparking fears of violence. So, can we please see Freediver, Sprintcyclist, Moses, Soren, Baronvert, Yadda condemn these pamphlets and the possibility of violence against innocent Muslims? Or will they applaud them and stand by their beliefs and be heading up to Logan to foment and take part in Islamophobic violence against innocent Muslims who have committed no crimes? Or will they continue to hide behind their computer terminals and just part-take in some virtual persecution of innocent Muslims and their religion, like the cowards they are?    ::)

So these muslims have an irrational fear of violence,perhaps they are Boganophobic.

No reports of violence just papers, do you have a copy of these papers, how can we condemn something we have not seen?

Sheik Hilaly called the Police over vandalism at Lakemba mosque,CCTV showed Sheik Hilaly the Grand Mufti of Australia was the vandal.
Of course you have the Lebanese ambulance hoax where muslims accused Israel of war crimes, the Al Dura hoax which started an intifada so it is not unprecedented for muslims to bullshit for sympathy.

I have never called for violence against muslims in Australia, the best weapon against Islamic idiocy in Australia is the truth.

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 12:22am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 11:38pm: Logan mosque targeted with anti-Muslim pamphlets, sparking fears of violence. So, can we please see Freediver, Sprintcyclist, Moses, Soren, Baronvert, Yadda condemn these pamphlets and the possibility of violence against innocent Muslims? Or will they applaud them and stand by their beliefs and be heading up to Logan to foment and take part in Islamophobic violence against innocent Muslims who have committed no crimes? Or will they continue to hide behind their computer terminals and just part-take in some virtual persecution of innocent Muslims and their religion, like the cowards they are?    ::) So these muslims have an irrational fear of violence,perhaps they are Boganophobic. No reports of violence just papers, do you have a copy of these papers, how can we condemn something we have not seen?

An interesting point but I was more interested in if you were going to even consider condemning them or possibility of violence against innocent Muslims.   Appears option three is your choice, right?   ::)

Its a toss-up as to whether the first real act of islam-related violence in Australia will be by muslims or against muslims.

tensions seem pretty high on both sides.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 12:35am:

Its a toss-up as to whether the first real act of islam-related violence in Australia will be by muslims or against muslims. tensions seem pretty high on both sides.

I reckon it will be by muslims, they get butthurt and riot over cartoons,youtube videos etc.

You have an irrational fear,we should call it Boganophobia.

So what if someone does commit violence against muslims, it isn't as though they didn't have it comin'.

What about all the violence committed against innocent Australians over the past 20 odd years?

I bet BR has never stood in condemnation of muslims who have beaten, stabbed, raped or murdered Australians.

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 12:39am:

You have an irrational fear,we should call it Boganophobia.

Yes its all just a bit of harmless fun - lighten up, take it on the chin.

Trash a mosque causing hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage? Pfft - a harmless prank.

Taipan wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 1:35am:

So what if someone does commit violence against muslims, it isn't as though they didn't have it comin'.

Ah, yes, lets blame the victims, shall we?


Quote:

What about all the violence committed against innocent Australians over the past 20 odd years?

Committed by whom, where?   You seem to be saying you believe in guilt by association, that if one Muslim commits a crime, all Muslims are responsible for it and should be punished no matter how disconnected they are from the criminal.   Great fascist thinking there.   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D


Quote:

I bet BR has never stood in condemnation of muslims who have beaten, stabbed, raped or murdered Australians.

I'm sure he has.  ;D ;D  ;D ;D :D :D

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 11:42am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 12:39am: You have an irrational fear,we should call it Boganophobia. Yes its all just a bit of harmless fun - lighten up, take it on the chin. Trash a mosque causing hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage? Pfft - a harmless prank.

Better than having your head cut off and the whole spectical put on youtube for the amusement of your fellow muslims, so they shouldn't complain about a few bits of paper.

Just about cried with laughter when I saw this thread.

I love it! The muslim fundies are quite happy to lop off heads of nonbelievers, or possibly blow themselves up in a crowded marketplace to show the other sects who the TRUE believers are. Not a peep is heard from the mainstream muslims.

BUT, the bogan fundies decide to make their point to the muslims by... wait for it... handing out pamphlets. Cue cell phone footage of a poor child being taken off to hospital because of a nasty papercut caused by said pamphlets.


Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 11:38pm:

So, can we please see Freediver, Sprintcyclist, Moses, Soren, Baronvert, Yadda condemn these pamphlets and the possibility of violence against innocent Muslims? Or will they applaud them and stand by their beliefs and be heading up to Logan to foment and take part in Islamophobic violence against innocent Muslims who have committed no crimes?

I agree Brian, how dare those nasty bogans hand out pamphlets to/about muslims! They are nearly as bad as those door to door salesmen of yonder days. I for one will join you in condemning the numerous papercuts that were mercilessly inflicted upon those unfortunate enough to read the pamphlets.

The perpetrators should be found and beheaded. That'll learn them who da boss is.

Where were you when the Jews were complaining about anti-Semitic pamphlets being handed out in Bondi the other week?   You must have been terribly upset when Section 18c wasn't repealed.   Your name isn't Andrew Bolt?   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Well Muslims in Australia have sort of brought it on to themselves. There's been gang rapes, murders, hate preachers, protests , cops bashed, terrorist plans foiled, mass arrests. It happens all over the world wherever Muslims are.

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 1:46pm:

Well Muslims in Australia have sort of brought it on to themselves. There's been gang rapes, murders, hate preachers, protests , cops bashed, terrorist plans foiled, mass arrests. It happens all over the world wherever Muslims are.

You too, obviously believe in guilt by association.  Blame the victim, hey?

How does this make you any better than the Islamist extremists who reckon they can blame any Westerner for what the government of the USA/UK/France/Australia does and cut their heads off?   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 1:55pm:

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 1:46pm: Well Muslims in Australia have sort of brought it on to themselves. There's been gang rapes, murders, hate preachers, protests , cops bashed, terrorist plans foiled, mass arrests. It happens all over the world wherever Muslims are. You too, obviously believe in guilt by association.  Blame the victim, hey? How does this make you any better than the Islamist extremists who reckon they can blame any Westerner for what the government of the USA/UK/France/Australia does and cut their heads off?   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

It's just a natural reaction from the Australian people. They see a threat. And there is a threat.

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 1:55pm:

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 1:46pm: Well Muslims in Australia have sort of brought it on to themselves. There's been gang rapes, murders, hate preachers, protests , cops bashed, terrorist plans foiled, mass arrests. It happens all over the world wherever Muslims are. You too, obviously believe in guilt by association.  Blame the victim, hey? How does this make you any better than the Islamist extremists who reckon they can blame any Westerner for what the government of the USA/UK/France/Australia does and cut their heads off?   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

No better.  Everything is eeeequuuaaaalllllll and the same innit.  No need to do anthying really, long as the casualties are less than the road toll it's all good innit. 

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 1:55pm:

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 1:46pm: Well Muslims in Australia have sort of brought it on to themselves. There's been gang rapes, murders, hate preachers, protests , cops bashed, terrorist plans foiled, mass arrests. It happens all over the world wherever Muslims are. You too, obviously believe in guilt by association.  Blame the victim, hey? How does this make you any better than the Islamist extremists who reckon they can blame any Westerner for what the government of the USA/UK/France/Australia does and cut their heads off?   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

"All terrorists are Muslims, therefore, all Muslims are terrorists."

They're so consumed with fear, that it destroys their ability to think like a reasonable person.

Sad, in a way.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 1:55pm: jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 1:46pm: Well Muslims in Australia have sort of brought it on to themselves. There's been gang rapes, murders, hate preachers, protests , cops bashed, terrorist plans foiled, mass arrests. It happens all over the world wherever Muslims are. You too, obviously believe in guilt by association.  Blame the victim, hey? How does this make you any better than the Islamist extremists who reckon they can blame any Westerner for what the government of the USA/UK/France/Australia does and cut their heads off?   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D "All terrorists are Muslims, therefore, all Muslims are terrorists." They're so consumed with fear, that it destroys their ability to think like a reasonable person. Sad, in a way.

Nobody thinks it's all muslims. But when so many ratbags come out of one religion people then start to question the whole thing.

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 11:38pm:

Logan mosque targeted with anti-Muslim pamphlets, sparking fears of violence. So, can we please see Freediver, Sprintcyclist, Moses, Soren, Baronvert, Yadda condemn these pamphlets and the possibility of violence against innocent Muslims? Or will they applaud them and stand by their beliefs and be heading up to Logan to foment and take part in Islamophobic violence against innocent Muslims who have committed no crimes? Or will they continue to hide behind their computer terminals and just part-take in some virtual persecution of innocent Muslims and their religion, like the cowards they are?    ::)

Well done loganites.

Congrats.

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 2:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 2:04pm: |dev|null wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 1:55pm: jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 1:46pm: Well Muslims in Australia have sort of brought it on to themselves. There's been gang rapes, murders, hate preachers, protests , cops bashed, terrorist plans foiled, mass arrests. It happens all over the world wherever Muslims are. You too, obviously believe in guilt by association.  Blame the victim, hey? How does this make you any better than the Islamist extremists who reckon they can blame any Westerner for what the government of the USA/UK/France/Australia does and cut their heads off?   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D "All terrorists are Muslims, therefore, all Muslims are terrorists." They're so consumed with fear, that it destroys their ability to think like a reasonable person. Sad, in a way. Nobody thinks it's all muslims.

This guy does: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1410701923/17#17


He crosses the street, to avoid women wearing burqas.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 2:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 11:38pm: Logan mosque targeted with anti-Muslim pamphlets, sparking fears of violence. So, can we please see Freediver, Sprintcyclist, Moses, Soren, Baronvert, Yadda condemn these pamphlets and the possibility of violence against innocent Muslims? Or will they applaud them and stand by their beliefs and be heading up to Logan to foment and take part in Islamophobic violence against innocent Muslims who have committed no crimes? Or will they continue to hide behind their computer terminals and just part-take in some virtual persecution of innocent Muslims and their religion, like the cowards they are?    ::) Well done loganites. Congrats.

Are you condoning and encouraging the criminal harassment of Australian Muslims?

Did God tell you that was okay in one of your visions?

You are as distant from a proper Christian as an extremist from a moderate Muslim. Christianity is about love - not hate-filled conversations between a disturbed mind and an imagined omnipotent confidant.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 11:42am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 12:39am: You have an irrational fear,we should call it Boganophobia. Yes its all just a bit of harmless fun - lighten up, take it on the chin. Trash a mosque causing hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage? Pfft - a harmless prank.

Can you cite any evidence this mosque was trashed or do you expect people to take your word it happened?

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

Where were you when the Jews were complaining about anti-Semitic pamphlets being handed out in Bondi the other week?

At least the jews were able to produce these pamphlets, has anyone seen these alleged pamphlets from this mosque?

How does Brian expect us to condemn these mysterious pamphlets nobody can produce or has seen?

MumboJumbo wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 1:12pm:

BUT, the bogan fundies decide to make their point to the muslims by... wait for it... handing out pamphlets. Cue cell phone footage of a poor child being taken off to hospital because of a nasty papercut caused by said pamphlets.

The only person drawing any sort of moral equivalence between these pamphlets and beheadings is you.

Regardless of what unconnected extremists do in other countries, this is still an unacceptable act of intimidation which reasonably caused innocent people to feel that their safety was under threat. It is therefore unacceptable and should be condemned.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 2:35pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 2:22pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 11:38pm: Logan mosque targeted with anti-Muslim pamphlets, sparking fears of violence. So, can we please see Freediver, Sprintcyclist, Moses, Soren, Baronvert, Yadda condemn these pamphlets and the possibility of violence against innocent Muslims? Or will they applaud them and stand by their beliefs and be heading up to Logan to foment and take part in Islamophobic violence against innocent Muslims who have committed no crimes? Or will they continue to hide behind their computer terminals and just part-take in some virtual persecution of innocent Muslims and their religion, like the cowards they are?    ::) Well done loganites. Congrats. Are you condoning and encouraging the criminal harassment of Australian Muslims?

Much worse, he actually wants to carry it out and more!


Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 8:54pm:

Quote: .........You, OTOH would be leading any future pogrom without a doubt...... Absolutely positively

Quote:

Did God tell you that was okay in one of your visions? You are as distant from a proper Christian as an extremist from a moderate Muslim. Christianity is about love - not hate-filled conversations between a disturbed mind and an imagined omnipotent confidant.

Yet he and others here claim they are good Christians.  Always remember it was the good Christians who carried out the Final Solution. ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 2:45pm:

Regardless of what unconnected extremists do in other countries, this is still an  act of alleged intimidation which reasonably caused innocent people to feel that their safety was under threat. It is therefore unacceptable and should be condemned.

Fixed it for you, still waiting on the evidence for this pamphlet.

How can we condemn an invisible pamphlet?

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 1:33pm: Where were you when the Jews were complaining about anti-Semitic pamphlets being handed out in Bondi the other week?  At least the jews were able to produce these pamphlets, has anyone seen these alleged pamphlets from this mosque? How does Brian expect us to condemn these mysterious pamphlets nobody can produce or has seen?

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 2:45pm:

...this is still an unacceptable act of intimidation which reasonably caused innocent people to feel that their safety was under threat. It is therefore unacceptable and should be condemned.

Yet you continue to quibble Baron.  It's obvious where your sympathies lie.  ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 2:41pm:

Can you cite any evidence this mosque was trashed or do you expect people to take your word it happened?

I was talking about the trashing of the Canberra mosque earlier this year.

It was in response to your idiotic claim that muslims have an irrational fear of attacks, and that such attitudes should be dismissed as some unreasonable phobia.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 2:47pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 2:41pm: Can you cite any evidence this mosque was trashed or do you expect people to take your word it happened? I was talking about the trashing of the Canberra mosque earlier this year. It was in response to your idiotic claim that muslims have an irrational fear of attacks, and that such attitudes should be dismissed as some unreasonable phobia.

As we saw with Lakemba mosque when Sheik Hilaly the Grand Mufti reported vandalism the CCTV fottage showed Sheik Hilaly was the culprit, it is not unprecedented for muslims to make stuff up.

Of course muslims have an irrational fear of attacks by Australians, we should say muslims with this irrational fear have Boganophobia.

Can you find a copy of this alleged pamphlet or do you expect us to condemn an invisible unknown pamphlet?

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 2:47pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 2:44pm: |dev|null wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 1:33pm: Where were you when the Jews were complaining about anti-Semitic pamphlets being handed out in Bondi the other week?  At least the jews were able to produce these pamphlets, has anyone seen these alleged pamphlets from this mosque? How does Brian expect us to condemn these mysterious pamphlets nobody can produce or has seen? polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 2:45pm: ...this is still an unacceptable act of intimidation which reasonably caused innocent people to feel that their safety was under threat. It is therefore unacceptable and should be condemned. Yet you continue to quibble Baron.  It's obvious where your sympathies lie

Do you have any evidence for this pamphlet HB,how do you expect us to condemn something you cannot produce?
:D >:( :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

So, Sheik Hilaly trashed the Canberra Mosque Baron?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 3:12pm:

So, Sheik Hilaly trashed the Canberra Mosque Baron?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

I have seen pictures and trashed would be overstating it, the link said it was an Islamic centre not a mosque.

Still waiting for evidence of this alleged pamphlet the apologists expect us to condemn yet cannot produce.
:D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 3:10pm:

As we saw with Lakemba mosque when Sheik Hilaly the Grand Mufti reported vandalism the CCTV fottage showed Sheik Hilaly was the culprit, it is not unprecedented for muslims to make stuff up.

If you have any evidence that the Canberra muslims trashed their own mosque then present it. Otherwise shut the f_uck up.  :)

Looky here, now the do-gooders have turned it around so that the big bad aussie is picking on the poor weak muslims.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 3:22pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 3:10pm: As we saw with Lakemba mosque when Sheik Hilaly the Grand Mufti reported vandalism the CCTV fottage showed Sheik Hilaly was the culprit, it is not unprecedented for muslims to make stuff up. If you have any evidence that the Canberra muslims trashed their own mosque then present it. Otherwise shut the f_uck up.  :)

There is a security fence around that Islamic centre, did the Police charge anyone for the damage?

Do you have any evidence it was damaged by a non muslim, otherwise shut the bugger up

Sheikh Hilaly obviously is on the road a lot of the time...  ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Vandal attack shocks peaceful worshippers of Cairns mosque

Canberra Islamic Centre hit by vandals

Mayfield mosque vandalised

Gold Coast mosque protest turns ugly with pig's head posted on fence

Firebugs threaten mosque attacks

Mosque president Harry Gec said the mosque had been vandalised several times over the years, with windows being smashed and doors broken.

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 3:28pm:

Looky here, now the do-gooders have turned it around so that the big bad aussie is picking on the poor weak muslims.

And how then would you describe the victims of religious persecution?  Oh, that's right, "it's all their own fault!"  ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:

Sheikh Hilaly obviously is on the road a lot of the time...  ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D Vandal attack shocks peaceful worshippers of Cairns mosque Canberra Islamic Centre hit by vandals Mayfield mosque vandalised Gold Coast mosque protest turns ugly with pig's head posted on fence Firebugs threaten mosque attacks Mosque president Harry Gec said the mosque had been vandalised several times over the years, with windows being smashed and doors broken.

Still waiting for the pamphlet evidence HB,why are you not providing this evidence? ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 3:30pm:

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 3:28pm: Looky here, now the do-gooders have turned it around so that the big bad aussie is picking on the poor weak muslims. And how then would you describe the victims of religious persecution?  Oh, that's right, "it's all their own fault!"  ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

I can't think of much that aussies have done to muslims. I can think of plenty the other way around though.

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 3:31pm:

Still waiting for the pamphlet evidence HB,why are you not providing this evidence? ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

'cause it hasn't been published?   Unlike you, I don't pull evidence from out of my arse.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

You haven't even condemned the concept of vandalising a place of worship though.  Perhaps it's because you're applauding it when it's Muslims who are the victims?   ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 3:31pm: Still waiting for the pamphlet evidence HB,why are you not providing this evidence? ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D 'cause it hasn't been published?   Unlike you, I don't pull evidence from out of my arse.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Give me a pamphlet over an invited muslim hate preacher any day.

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 3:34pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 3:33pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 3:31pm: Still waiting for the pamphlet evidence HB,why are you not providing this evidence? ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D 'cause it hasn't been published?   Unlike you, I don't pull evidence from out of my arse.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D Give me a pamphlet over an invited muslim hate preacher any day.

How about a Holocaust Denier?  How many Holocaust Deniers equal one invited Muslim hate preacher?  ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 3:31pm: Still waiting for the pamphlet evidence HB,why are you not providing this evidence? ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D 'cause it hasn't been published?   Unlike you, I don't pull evidence from out of my arse.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D You haven't even condemned the concept of vandalising a place of worship though.  Perhaps it's because you're applauding it when it's Muslims who are the victims?

Are you saying there is no evidence for this mysterious hate pamphlet which is the topic of this thread?
:D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Far more attacks happen to jews than muslims in Australia,of course you would never condemn them would you hb.
https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=attacks+on+jews+australia&start=10

Was the main suspect in the Hakoah club bombing a muslim?

Quote:

A database of antisemitic incidents in Australia, maintained by AIJAC's Jeremy Jones from October 1 1989 to September 30 2011, includes 566 incidents of property damage to buildings and/or physical assaults on individuals; 1,180 incidents of harassment and intimidation; 679 telephone abuse and threats, as well as an additional 5,999 instances of other assorted antisemitic activtity such as graffiti, mail-born threats and dissemination of antisemitic material.

[http://www.aijac.org.au/news/article/australia-s-jewish-community-has-legitimate-secu]

I have been unable to find any comparable statistics for Islamophobic attacks but I suspect there have been far more.  That the media doesn't report them doesn't mean they haven't occurred.  They merely fly under the radar in a society where "blame the victim" is the norm it seems, if the reactions here amongst some is anything to go by.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

So, you going to condemn Islamophobic attacks Baron or are you going to blame the victim too? 

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 3:57pm:

I have been unable to find any comparable statistics for Islamophobic attacks but I suspect there have been far more.

Scott Poynting especially has done some useful research on islamophobic attacks in Australia since 9/11. One of the most significant findings was that attacks are hugely under-reported - primarily because most attacks are directed against women (visibly more identifiable), who are understandably too scared/embarassed to report it.

I can't find any but there must be some??? :D :D :D :D :D :D I don't remember a bunch of Aussies holding up beheading signs and assaulting police.

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 4:04pm:

I can't find any but there must be some??? :D :D :D :D :D :D I don't remember a bunch of Aussies holding up beheading signs and assaulting police.

But they can behead pigs and place them outside mosques.

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 3:57pm:

Quote: A database of antisemitic incidents in Australia, maintained by AIJAC's Jeremy Jones from October 1 1989 to September 30 2011, includes 566 incidents of property damage to buildings and/or physical assaults on individuals; 1,180 incidents of harassment and intimidation; 679 telephone abuse and threats, as well as an additional 5,999 instances of other assorted antisemitic activtity such as graffiti, mail-born threats and dissemination of antisemitic material. [http://www.aijac.org.au/news/article/australia-s-jewish-community-has-legitimate-secu] I have been unable to find any comparable statistics for Islamophobic attacks but I suspect there have been far more.  That the media doesn't report them doesn't mean they haven't occurred.

Graffiti is hardly an Islamophobic attack, can i say the dickheads who put graffiti on my fence are guilty of a hate crime against Australians if we use your criteria for hate crimes?
:D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

I would say the statistics here and the FBI stats in the USA put the jews as the biggest victims of hate crimes, keep looking you might prove me right.
:D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

wally1 wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 4:12pm:

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 4:04pm: I can't find any but there must be some??? :D :D :D :D :D :D I don't remember a bunch of Aussies holding up beheading signs and assaulting police. Not as bad a smashing a pole over the head of some poor underpaid cop or planning to blow up Lucas heights while on the dole. But they can behead pigs and place them outside mosques.

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 4:14pm:

wally1 wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 4:12pm: jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 4:04pm: I can't find any but there must be some??? :D :D :D :D :D :D I don't remember a bunch of Aussies holding up beheading signs and assaulting police. Not as bad a smashing a pole over the head of some poor underpaid cop or planning to blow up Lucas heights while on the dole. But they can behead pigs and place them outside mosques.

Not as bad a smashing a pole over the head of some poor underpaid cop or planning to blow up Lucas heights while on the dole.

wally1 wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 4:12pm:

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 4:04pm: I can't find any but there must be some??? :D :D :D :D :D :D I don't remember a bunch of Aussies holding up beheading signs and assaulting police. But they can behead pigs and place them outside mosques.

So pig heads are offensive to muslims yet muslims holding up severed heads of non muslims is not offensive to muslims?

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 4:15pm:

wally1 wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 4:12pm: jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 4:04pm: I can't find any but there must be some??? :D :D :D :D :D :D I don't remember a bunch of Aussies holding up beheading signs and assaulting police. But they can behead pigs and place them outside mosques. So pig heads are offensive to muslims yet muslims holding up severed heads of non muslims is not offensive to muslims?

Were those heads non Muslims?  The ISIS driving around and brassing up cars and bystanders were not as as discriminating as the great satans drones. 

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 4:15pm:

So pig heads are offensive to muslims yet muslims holding up severed heads of non muslims is not offensive to muslims?

Absolutely right Baron - holding up severed heads is *TOTALLY* not offensive to muslims - that is the <1% of them who are not munafiq

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 4:14pm:

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 4:14pm: wally1 wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 4:12pm: jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 4:04pm: I can't find any but there must be some??? :D :D :D :D :D :D I don't remember a bunch of Aussies holding up beheading signs and assaulting police. Not as bad a smashing a pole over the head of some poor underpaid cop or planning to blow up Lucas heights while on the dole. But they can behead pigs and place them outside mosques. Not as bad a smashing a pole over the head of some poor underpaid cop or planning to blow up Lucas heights while on the dole.

Didnt they get caught, stop claiming.

So we just turn blind eye to mosque attacks?

wally1 wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 4:39pm:

So we just turn blind eye to mosque attacks?

No Wally, we concoct scenarios to convince ourselves it never actually happened. Weren't you listening to Baron? - no published pamphets - therefore they don't exist.

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 4:13pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 3:57pm: Quote: A database of antisemitic incidents in Australia, maintained by AIJAC's Jeremy Jones from October 1 1989 to September 30 2011, includes 566 incidents of property damage to buildings and/or physical assaults on individuals; 1,180 incidents of harassment and intimidation; 679 telephone abuse and threats, as well as an additional 5,999 instances of other assorted antisemitic activtity such as graffiti, mail-born threats and dissemination of antisemitic material. [http://www.aijac.org.au/news/article/australia-s-jewish-community-has-legitimate-secu] I have been unable to find any comparable statistics for Islamophobic attacks but I suspect there have been far more.  That the media doesn't report them doesn't mean they haven't occurred.  Graffiti is hardly an Islamophobic attack, can i say the dickheads who put graffiti on my fence are guilty of a hate crime against Australians if we use your criteria for hate crimes? :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Not his, Baron but rather the Jews'.  Perhaps you need to air some of your anti-Semitism?


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I would say the statistics here and the FBI stats in the USA put the jews as the biggest victims of hate crimes, keep looking you might prove me right. :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

I don't think it's a competition who has the greatest number of hate crimes against them, Baron.  Surely one is more than sufficient?  That is to most normal people.    ::)

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 4:42pm:

wally1 wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 4:39pm: So we just turn blind eye to mosque attacks? No Wally, we concoct scenarios to convince ourselves it never actually happened. Weren't you listening to Baron? - no published pamphets - therefore they don't exist.

The lies some people tell themselves to justify the unjustifiable.   ::)

All the usual muslims and their lovers trying to divert from all of Islam's bad publicity of late. From kids holding heads up, aussie bred  suicide bombers  to terrorist cells busted in bookshops.

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 6:02pm:

All the usual muslims and their lovers trying to divert from all of Islam's bad publicity of late. From kids holding heads up, aussie bred  suicide bombers  to terrorist cells busted in bookshops.

No Islam's, some Muslim's, Jockohomo (aka Shakey aka Matty?).  You seem to mistake the actions of a minority of Muslim's for the beliefs of the majority.  I wonder why?

I suppose we can, using that logic, that Joseph Kony and Fred Phelps or Fred Nile represent the views of the majority of Christians?    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 6:12pm:

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 6:02pm: All the usual muslims and their lovers trying to divert from all of Islam's bad publicity of late. From kids holding heads up, aussie bred  suicide bombers  to terrorist cells busted in bookshops. No Islam's, some Muslim's, Jockohomo (aka Shakey aka Matty?).  You seem to mistake the actions of a minority of Muslim's for the beliefs of the majority.  I wonder why? I suppose we can, using that logic, that Joseph Kony and Fred Phelps or Fred Nile represent the views of the majority of Christians?    ::)

I'm not blaming the majority. I dare you to repeat anything I have said where I blame every muslim. You lot are just going nuts over a pamphlet and some pig parts to counter Australian Islam's bad publicity of late.

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 6:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 6:12pm: jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 6:02pm: All the usual muslims and their lovers trying to divert from all of Islam's bad publicity of late. From kids holding heads up, aussie bred  suicide bombers  to terrorist cells busted in bookshops. No Islam's, some Muslim's, Jockohomo (aka Shakey aka Matty?).  You seem to mistake the actions of a minority of Muslim's for the beliefs of the majority.  I wonder why? I suppose we can, using that logic, that Joseph Kony and Fred Phelps or Fred Nile represent the views of the majority of Christians?    ::) I'm not blaming the majority. I dare you to repeat anything I have said where I blame every muslim. You lot are just going nuts over a pamphlet and some pig parts to counter Australian Islam's bad publicity of late.

Err who do you think believes in Islam, Jockohomo3d, if not the majority, if not all Muslims?    ::)

You appear to think it is possible to divorce the believers from the belief.  Or that the belief somehow doesn't reflect the views of the believers.   When you attack Islam, you are attacking all Muslims.

You need to start learning to differentiate between what the minority (ISIS) and the majority (the rest of the Muslims) believe and do, don't you think?

Not doing all that well on the critical thinking front there, my boy.  Care to have another go?

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 4:03pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 3:57pm: I have been unable to find any comparable statistics for Islamophobic attacks but I suspect there have been far more. Scott Poynting especially has done some useful research on islamophobic attacks in Australia since 9/11. One of the most significant findings was that attacks are hugely under-reported - primarily because most attacks are directed against women (visibly more identifiable), who are understandably too scared/embarassed to report it.

Why would Muslim women feel too scared or embarrassed to report Islamophobic attacks?

Perhaps they are simply used to the mistreatment.

Yep that must be it FD  :P

Of course women feeling uncomfortable about reporting intimidation and abuse by men in non-muslim cultures is simply unheard of isn't it?

Got any more smacking retarded contributions for today?

Your argument might make sense if it was sexual assault. What is it about 'non-Muslim' culture that might make women scared about reporting Islamaphobic attacks? Are they worried about all the fawning Brians of the world?

Seriously, what could possibly motivate you to turn this into an attack on islam? It is perfectly normal for any woman to be reluctant to report an attack that made them feel humiliated and degraded. Ripping a woman's hijab off in a malicious attack by a complete stranger would be hugely humiliating for any affected woman, and its perfectly understandable they would be reluctant to report it.


freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:

What is it about 'non-Muslim' culture that might make women scared about reporting Islamaphobic attacks?

Please rephrase this question. You either mistyped or misunderstood what I said.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

Ripping a woman's hijab off in a malicious attack by a complete stranger would be hugely humiliating for any affected woman, and its perfectly understandable they would be reluctant to report it.

How about this:

Putting on a hijab in Australia is a malicious act.


Look around. The natives do not have hijabs. They have a COMPLETELY different concept about the sexes. They have a COMPLETELY different view of what is normal behaviour and attire in the public sphere.

Why not respect that?

Why challenge or ignore that?

Why not fit in and not demonstrate separateness at every turn?

Didn't they know that Australia is not a Middle Eastern country when they applied to settle here?
Don't they know that this is not a repressive Islamic country?
Why insist on challenging the norms of the country that gives them an opportunity to bloody well get over their primitive Arabian obsessions about hair?

Why come here if they want to be just like they are back in Hellholeistan??


Please explain, Gandy, because I have no idea why you do it - other than deliberately undermine and white-ant.

It simply doesn't make sense otherwise.

Ah, see what is meant about blaming the victim?  You provide a perfect example, Soren.   Thanks for proving my point, you "never, ever, condemn Islamophobia".  You commit it.  You remind me of the neo-Nazi bully boys I once saw off who were harassing my Jewish neighbour.  She was a survivor of the Holocaust and didn't deserve to be treated like that by such scum.  Like them, you pick on those who can't defend themselves.  You do it from behind the safety of your computer.   Like them, if you met real people you'd run a mile.  ::)

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:

Your argument might make sense if it was sexual assault. What is it about 'non-Muslim' culture that might make women scared about reporting Islamaphobic attacks? Are they worried about all the fawning Brians of the world?

Do you really believe that the only underreported crimes against women are sexual? What about domestic violence?


When I wore hijab, I was verbally abused, spat at a few times and shoved down stairs at a railway station. Ever been spat at by a filthy bogan? It's one of the the most revolting and humiliating things out there - far worse than the push down the stairs. I remember standing waiting to cross a set of traffic lights and being spat at by a dickhead in a passing car. My best friend was surrounded on a train by a group of teenagers and had her scarf torn off. This was all before 9/11. I never once considered reporting anything to the police.

I pulled over not long ago to assist at the scene of an accident. A scarfed Muslim woman was sitting by the side of the road crying hysterically. She'd t-boned a lady at an intersection. It wasn't a serious accident. The woman she hit was on the phone to the police saying that she believed she'd been hit intentionally and was a victim of terrorism. The scarfed woman was absolutely petrified. It was awful.

It's okay that you don't understand the perspective, but you're so harsh. In your rush to condemn Muslims for anything and everything,  you seem to always jump to the most negative of conclusions without proper consideration. 

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 8:59pm:

Ah, see what is meant about blaming the victim?  You provide a perfect example, Soren.   Thanks for proving my point, you "never, ever, condemn Islamophobia".  You commit it.  You remind me of the neo-Nazi bully boys I once saw off who were harassing my Jewish neighbour.  She was a survivor of the Holocaust and didn't deserve to be treated like that by such scum.  Like them, you pick on those who can't defend themselves.  You do it from behind the safety of your computer.   Like them, if you met real people you'd run a mile.  ::)

I asked a few questions,  Brain, why don't you answer them instead of preening and posing?

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 6:18am:

freediver wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 7:40pm: Your argument might make sense if it was sexual assault. What is it about 'non-Muslim' culture that might make women scared about reporting Islamaphobic attacks? Are they worried about all the fawning Brians of the world? Do you really believe that the only underreported crimes against women are sexual? What about domestic violence? When I wore hijab, I was verbally abused, spat at a few times and shoved down stairs at a railway station. Ever been spat at by a filthy bogan? It's one of the the most revolting and humiliating things out there - far worse than the push down the stairs. I remember standing waiting to cross a set of traffic lights and being spat at by a dickhead in a passing car. My best friend was surrounded on a train by a group of teenagers and had her scarf torn off. This was all before 9/11. I never once considered reporting anything to the police. I pulled over not long ago to assist at the scene of an accident. A scarfed Muslim woman was sitting by the side of the road crying hysterically. She'd t-boned a lady at an intersection. It wasn't a serious accident. The woman she hit was on the phone to the police saying that she believed she'd been hit intentionally and was a victim of terrorism. The scarfed woman was absolutely petrified. It was awful. It's okay that you don't understand the perspective, but you're so harsh. In your rush to condemn Muslims for anything and everything,  you seem to always jump to the most negative of conclusions without proper consideration.

Your experiences are not unusual - unfortunately. I had no idea about how rampant this hijab-abuse issue was until I read a few reports on it. The studies I mentioned earlier interview muslim women, and the exact same sorts of anecdotes are repeated - over and over - the shoving, the spitting and of course ripping the hijab off. But its never reported on - because as you said, women are just too humiliated and ashamed to - and besides, whats the point? A bogan drives by and spits in your face - what can be done?

And then we have not only FD jumping to blame anyone but the actual perpetrators, but also Soren's class act of describing the donning of the hijab as "a malicious act". Makes you proud eh?  :-[

If I were a woman and went to Jedda and insisted that I should be able to get around in hot pants, you would see that as a deliberate provocation - as malicious act calculated to undermine and challenge the local customs.

Soren wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 8:27am:

If I were a woman and went to Jedda and insisted that I should be able to get around in hot pants, you would see that as a deliberate provocation - as malicious act calculated to undermine and challenge the local customs.

you'ld be jailed.

But, the muslims here will say that is all ok

Soren wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 8:27am:

If I were a woman and went to Jedda and insisted that I should be able to get around in hot pants, you would see that as a deliberate provocation - as malicious act calculated to undermine and challenge the local customs.

Which is precisely why these people are leaving sh*tholes like Jedda to come here - because we have a free and open society where, thank God, wearing what you like is not seen as a "deliberate provocation" - by most people that is.

Are you really competing to be as intolerant as Saudi Arabia?

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 10:18am:

Soren wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 8:27am: If I were a woman and went to Jedda and insisted that I should be able to get around in hot pants, you would see that as a deliberate provocation - as malicious act calculated to undermine and challenge the local customs. Which is precisely why these people are leaving sh*tholes like Jedda to come here - because we have a free and open society where, thank God, wearing what you like is not seen as a "deliberate provocation" - by most people that is. Are you really competing to be as intolerant as Saudi Arabia?

So why bring the sh*thole customs all this way?

If you're seriously suggesting that a choice of head-dress is a "sh*thole custom" - then I suggest its you who has the problem, not them.

Yeah, right.
http://cdn.pjmedia.com/files/2008/06/niqabs.jpg

Soren wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 10:37am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 10:18am: Soren wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 8:27am: If I were a woman and went to Jedda and insisted that I should be able to get around in hot pants, you would see that as a deliberate provocation - as malicious act calculated to undermine and challenge the local customs. Which is precisely why these people are leaving sh*tholes like Jedda to come here - because we have a free and open society where, thank God, wearing what you like is not seen as a "deliberate provocation" - by most people that is. Are you really competing to be as intolerant as Saudi Arabia? So why bring the sh*thole customs all this way?

Good point, old boy. You want the stool manufacturing process situated nearer to your care facility, no?

Be patient, old chap. It may not happen overnight, but it will happen.

Good strawman soren - we are talking about the hijab, not the niqab.

Soren wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 8:10pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 7:53pm: Ripping a woman's hijab off in a malicious attack by a complete stranger would be hugely humiliating for any affected woman, and its perfectly understandable they would be reluctant to report it. How about this: Putting on a hijab in Australia is a malicious act. Look around. The natives do not have hijabs. They have a COMPLETELY different concept about the sexes. They have a COMPLETELY different view of what is normal behaviour and attire in the public sphere. Why not respect that? Why challenge or ignore that? Why not fit in and not demonstrate separateness at every turn? Didn't they know that Australia is not a Middle Eastern country when they applied to settle here? Don't they know that this is not a repressive Islamic country? Why insist on challenging the norms of the country that gives them an opportunity to bloody well get over their primitive Arabian obsessions about hair? Why come here if they want to be just like they are back in Hellholeistan?? Please explain, Gandy, because I have no idea why you do it - other than deliberately undermine and white-ant. It simply doesn't make sense otherwise.

That's right, old chap. You raise a very important point. And in so doing, you support the rights and Freeeedoms of all good Australians who like Danish to express themselves like this:


Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 6:18am:

When I wore hijab, I was verbally abused, spat at a few times and shoved down stairs at a railway station. Ever been spat at by a filthy bogan? It's one of the the most revolting and humiliating things out there - far worse than the push down the stairs. I remember standing waiting to cross a set of traffic lights and being spat at by a dickhead in a passing car. My best friend was surrounded on a train by a group of teenagers and had her scarf torn off. This was all before 9/11. I never once considered reporting anything to the police. I pulled over not long ago to assist at the scene of an accident. A scarfed Muslim woman was sitting by the side of the road crying hysterically. She'd t-boned a lady at an intersection. It wasn't a serious accident. The woman she hit was on the phone to the police saying that she believed she'd been hit intentionally and was a victim of terrorism. The scarfed woman was absolutely petrified. It was awful.

It's a matter of taste, no? Australians who like Danish have a superior sense of aesthetics. Form fits function, innit. Team Australia.

It is a jolly world.

Soren wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 10:37am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 10:18am: Soren wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 8:27am: If I were a woman and went to Jedda and insisted that I should be able to get around in hot pants, you would see that as a deliberate provocation - as malicious act calculated to undermine and challenge the local customs. Which is precisely why these people are leaving sh*tholes like Jedda to come here - because we have a free and open society where, thank God, wearing what you like is not seen as a "deliberate provocation" - by most people that is. Are you really competing to be as intolerant as Saudi Arabia? So why bring the sh*thole customs all this way?

So Soren is what these women wearing a "provocation?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2013/09/9sr_frances_nuns3.jpg

Do you think they should have their wimples torn off and dickheads like you should be allowed to spit in their faces 'cause they wear such head dress?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Neither the hijab nor the niqab or the pajama the men wear are religiously or otherwise required garments. They are worn in the West for no other reason than to demonstrate apartness and to show off the sh*thole customs their wearers brought with them or are keen to emulate.

|dev|null wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 11:58am:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2013/09/9sr_frances_nuns3.jpg

It's a uniform, bozo. You do not wear it UNLESS you voluntarily enter a religious order.
Ordinary Catholic women do not wear it precisely for that reason.

Soren wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 12:04pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 11:58am: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2013/09/9sr_frances_nuns3.jpg It's a uniform, bozo. You do not wear it UNLESS you voluntarily enter a religious order. Ordinary Catholic women do not wear it precisely for that reason.

Why am I not surprised that you choose to make excuses for your inconsistent attitudes?  Moving the goalposts seems to be a sport you enjoy so much!    ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 11:58am:

Soren wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 10:37am: polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 10:18am: Soren wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 8:27am: If I were a woman and went to Jedda and insisted that I should be able to get around in hot pants, you would see that as a deliberate provocation - as malicious act calculated to undermine and challenge the local customs. Which is precisely why these people are leaving sh*tholes like Jedda to come here - because we have a free and open society where, thank God, wearing what you like is not seen as a "deliberate provocation" - by most people that is. Are you really competing to be as intolerant as Saudi Arabia? So why bring the sh*thole customs all this way? So Soren is what these women wearing a "provocation? http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2013/09/9sr_frances_nuns3.jpg Do you think they should have their wimples torn off and dickheads like you should be allowed to spit in their faces 'cause they wear such head dress?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

they would get much worse looking like that in an islamic country

So the accusations made by "Islamic leaders" alleging hate leaflets left at a mosque is still unproven after six pages.

The muslims and there friends IOS seemed to have been upset by this outrageous act which is a pity because they damned near defended the right of muslims to carry slogans saying kill those who don't believe in mo.

I suggest its a lie. False flag by those devoutly devious leaders.

As far as "fresh meat" lover is concernedhttp://www.vexnews.com/2009/03/sheik-faker-mosque-elections-prompt-sheik-hilaly-to-frame-foes-for-vandalism-and-terrorism/ Yep another liar.

Nope, no bigotry there at all, hey Adamant?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 11:58am:

Soren wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 10:37am: polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 10:18am: Soren wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 8:27am: If I were a woman and went to Jedda and insisted that I should be able to get around in hot pants, you would see that as a deliberate provocation - as malicious act calculated to undermine and challenge the local customs. Which is precisely why these people are leaving sh*tholes like Jedda to come here - because we have a free and open society where, thank God, wearing what you like is not seen as a "deliberate provocation" - by most people that is. Are you really competing to be as intolerant as Saudi Arabia? So why bring the sh*thole customs all this way? So Soren is what these women wearing a "provocation? http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2013/09/9sr_frances_nuns3.jpg Do you think they should have their wimples torn off and dickheads like you should be allowed to spit in their faces 'cause they wear such head dress?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Not at all. Nuns have a modernist aesthetic. Form fits function, innit.

Their dress is designed to put the fear of Gud into school children.

I do hope that Soren will be standing up to make sure these women are allowed to wear what they want?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5746312-3x2-340x227.jpg

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

|dev|null wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 1:22pm:

I do hope that Soren will be standing up to make sure these women are allowed to wear what they want? http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5746312-3x2-340x227.jpg ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

If I remember rightly, the old boy diagnosed Abu as a "breast man" for calling for the ladies to cover up. He has alluded to a similar diagnosis for yourself, eh Hot Breasts?

The old boy, of course, has a clean bill of mental health. His faecophilia is considered normal, not deviant.

Freudian, innit.

Soren wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 12:02pm:

Neither the hijab nor the niqab or the pajama the men wear are religiously or otherwise required garments. They are worn in the West for no other reason than to demonstrate apartness and to show off the sh*thole customs their wearers brought with them or are keen to emulate.

The niqab is a million times more different to the hijab, so lets not muddy the waters here.

As for the hijab - it is a head dress, no different whatsoever to a bald man wearing a bandana for his reasons and his reasons alone. Head dresses are perfectly acceptable in any free and tolerant society. There is no reason whatsoever to imagine the hijab makes women more "apart" from our culture and values. It is unreasonable and absurd - head dresses are perfectly fine and you should learn to get over it. You are literally no better than the misogynists in islamic countries who take swipes at women for daring to *NOT* wear the hijab. Literally.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 1:56pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 12:02pm: Neither the hijab nor the niqab or the pajama the men wear are religiously or otherwise required garments. They are worn in the West for no other reason than to demonstrate apartness and to show off the sh*thole customs their wearers brought with them or are keen to emulate. The niqab is a million times more different to the hijab, so lets not muddy the waters here. As for the hijab - it is a head dress, no different whatsoever to a bald man wearing a bandana for his reasons and his reasons alone. Head dresses are perfectly acceptable in any free and tolerant society. There is no reason whatsoever to imagine the hijab makes women more "apart" from our culture and values. It is unreasonable and absurd - head dresses are perfectly fine and you should learn to get over it. You are literally no better than the misogynists in islamic countries who take swipes at women for daring to *NOT* wear the hijab. Literally.

True, but the old boy's more of a stool man than a breast man.

Miam miam, eh?

Does hubby go to the Logan Mosque Karnal? :-?

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 4:01pm:

Does hubby go to the Logan Mosque Karnal? :-?

53 posts and you've only just caught up to me eh, Shakey?

We're all jockohomos here, dear. Some of us even go in for a bit of scatting.

Miam miam, no?

The ABC has said this is part of the Islamophobic pamphlet targeting the Logan Mosque in Queensland:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5742772-3x4-700x933.jpg

So, apologies from those who claimed the pamphlet doesn't exist?   ::)

;D

freediver wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 7:49pm:

;D

Something amuse you, FD?   ::)

Yes Brian. The picture of the pig on the XBOX thing is amusing.

As is your demand that we condemn it.

freediver wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 7:52pm:

Yes Brian. The picture of the pig on the XBOX thing is amusing. As is your demand that we condemn it.

So, you suppose racial vilification (according to the anti-discrimination acts of both Queensland and the Commonwealth) is acceptable?   ::)

I can just imagine what you'd be saying if some IS supporters decided to publish anti-Christian pamphlets about a church somewhere.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 8:56pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 20th, 2014 at 7:52pm: Yes Brian. The picture of the pig on the XBOX thing is amusing. As is your demand that we condemn it. So, you suppose racial vilification (according to the anti-discrimination acts of both Queensland and the Commonwealth) is acceptable?   ::) I can just imagine what you'd be saying if some IS supporters decided to publish anti-Christian pamphlets about a church somewhere.    ::)

Gaawd you are a dreadful bore,  Brain.

http://www.jesusandmo.net/strips/2013-05-01.png

I suppose it is boring for you to be told you're wrong, Soren.    ::)

Brian, we criticise ISIS for chopping people heads off as propaganda, not for drawing funny pictures of churches. The world would be a much better place if that is how ISIS expressed themselves.

freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 6:34am:

Brian, we criticise ISIS for chopping people heads off as propaganda, not for drawing funny pictures of churches. The world would be a much better place if that is how ISIS expressed themselves.

hear hear..

does anyone remember the Piss Christ..... personally I thought it was beautiful...and pretty true to be honest.....

but then the righteous the first to condemn  dont always believe in honesty do they?

freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 6:34am:

Brian, we criticise ISIS for chopping people heads off as propaganda, not for drawing funny pictures of churches. The world would be a much better place if that is how ISIS expressed themselves.

As we have seen all too often, "funny pictures" are a precursor to violence and mayhem from people who hold the same attitudes as you and your compatriots.  Laugh all you like at the "funny picture" but we know the sentiment in your mind.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 12:34pm:

Laugh all you like at the "funny picture" but we know the sentiment in your mind

Just like the backlash that the funny pictures of Mo caused Brian. Like the utter HATRED and CONTEMPT shown by muslims at those silly pictures Brian. Just like the Kill all those that don't believe in islam Brian.

God you are a Pratt, and I don't even believe in him, bugger.