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Title: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 10:40am

Where have the all of these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?

As we all know, the ISIS 'entity' has been attacking [and overrunning] local communities in Syria and Iraq, in recent months and years.

And ISIS has long been designated by Western nations, as an Al-Qaeda 'style' 'terrorist group'.

And in recent months we have seen the graphic video depictions of the slaughter ISIS captives, and we have heard the accounts of women and girls [captives] that have been forced into sex camps [sexual slavery camps].

Sex camps that are being set up and run, for the sexual 'gratification' [i.e. 'reward'] of ISIS fighters.

Mirror Online-British female jihadis running ISIS brothels allowing killers to rape kidnapped Yazidi women
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-female-jihadis-running-isis-4198165

And now, subsequent to many of those reports, and subsequent to the graphic video depictions of the slaughter ISIS captives, ISIS are now [even] being described as 'monsters', by many political leaders in Western nations [...and even in the 'liberal' mainstream media!]

PROPOSITION #1;
Despite what the policy makers and counter-terror 'experts' here in the West may say, and despite - the denials - that the moslem community spokesmen here, in Western nations, are making, ....it is clear that there is an overwhelming level of support for Al-Qaeda linked terror groups, among moslems [and within moslem communities] that are resident within Western nations.

And imo, this support is especially evident, for the group known as ISIS or IS.

And i would suggest that this widespread support for ISIS [among moslems communities that are resident within Western nations] cannot be easily denied by policy makers and political leaders here in Western nations.

WHY SO ?

Because it is apparent to almost everyone, and it is undeniable, that many of the members of this ISIS 'entity', within Syria and Iraq, are persons who are made up, largely, of moslem emigres [to Syria and Iraq] from Western nations.

So it is very apparent, that many of these 'monsters' [the members of the ISIS 'entity'], have, and must have, strong direct links, back to moslem communities that are resident within all Western nations, INCLUDING THE MOSLEM COMMUNITY HERE IN AUSTRALIA.

Of course, the moslem community here in Australia [as they have always done], will insistently deny that there is any support, in their community, for ISIS.

And they will also loudly proclaim that what ISIS is doing, has nothing to do with ISLAM, because;

'ISLAM is peace!' :P

QUESTION #1;
Why has ISIS, so quickly, become a threat to local communities in Syria and Iraq, and, 'to Western interests' ?
[and n.b. those communities in Syria and Iraq are being attacked, and overrun by ISIS, because the persons in them, have been deemed by ISIS to be, 1/ non-moslem or, 2/ apostate - i.e. 'not moslem enough']

PROPOSITION #2;
Hasn't 'ISIS' always been [hiding] among us, here in the West ?

My answer, would be YES! ...the members of what we now refer to, as 'ISIS', have always been here, living among us, here in the West.

FOR EXAMPLE -
THESE PERSONS [in these images below, from 2006 and 2012] ARE THE VERY SAME 'MONSTERS' THAT ARE BEING RECRUITED INTO ISIS, IN SYRIA AND IRAQ TODAY;

IMAGE...

THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"

THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/

AND THOSE VERY SAME 'MONSTERS' ARE HERE TOO, WITHIN AUSTRALIA!

AND THOSE 'MONSTERS' ARE EFFECTIVELY 'SWIMMING' [finding willing refuge] WITHIN THE THE MOSLEM COMMUNITY, HERE IN AUSTRALIA.;

IMAGE...

Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.
Moslems, religious bigots, 'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' and tolerant ISLAM and moslems really are - towards those who don't hold with the views of ISIS of ISLAM and moslems.

Moslems on a Sydney street, openly demanding their right to exercise their 'freedom of religion',
.....the 'religious' right to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.
[/quote]

Quote:

'ISLAM is peace!'          :P

Not all moslems are extremists you know!          :P

The only moslems who are extremists, are the ones that we don't know about, coz they are not here, in Australia.             :P

The only moslems who are extremists,          are the ones that live 'over there', and who commit atrocities - every day - against people who don't believe, as they [moslems] believe.

Honest!!!       :P

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 10:50am

ISIS cadres are here, living among us, here in Australia.

That is the truth.

And they are called devout moslems.

No ?

QUESTION;
1/ Are you seriously going to suggest, that you believe that if the moslems [who are living among us, here in Australia, today] had the means [i.e. had the power] to do so, that moslems here in Australia, would treat us [non-moslems], with any less contempt, than what ISIS is showing to ISIS captives in Syria and Iraq ?

2/ AND, THAT THAT, IS NOT THEIR INTENT TOWARDS US ?

EVIDENCE WHICH SUPPORTS THAT [MY] PROPOSITION;

A RESPECTED MOSLEM SCHOLAR URGING MOSLEMS, IN THE UK, TO MAINTAIN A DECEITFUL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UK NON-MOSLEM COMMUNITY, FOR THE PURPOSE OF MOSLEMS STRENGTHENING A MALICIOUS AND VIOLENT INTENT [on the moslem part, towards those who are not moslems].

Quote:

Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims
London, Sept.8 [2007]
A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.
Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.
A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...a regular visitor to Britain.
Polite and softly spoken....
He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece

IMAGE...

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami

Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong

"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-islamic-behavior/

ISLAM IS NOT A BENIGN, AND PEACEFUL RELIGION!

MOSLEMS ARE - INTENTIONALLY - MISREPRESENTING ISLAM TO US [non-moslems].

ASK YOURSELF, WHY ARE MOSLEMS DOING THAT,

WHY ARE MOSLEMS DECEIVING US ?

WHY ARE MOSLEMS - INTENTIONALLY - MISREPRESENTING ISLAM TO US ?

THE KORAN;

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Hot Breath on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:24pm

One word describes your posts. Bullshit! ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:30pm

Yadda wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 10:40am:

Where have the all of these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?

Apparently, many of the ISIS 'monsters' have come from Western Sydney.

In the image below, moslems from Western Sydney are protesting against police and ASIO raids, because those raids were intended to thwart the beheading of a deserving infidel, by peaceful religionists..... :P

!!!!!!!

'ISLAM is peace!' :P

IMAGE...

"WE MOSLEMS ONLY WANT TO CUT YOUR INFIDEL HEADS OFF!!!

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT!

DOES PRACTISING OUR FREEDOM OF RELIGION, DESERVE TERROR RAIDS !!!!!!!?

NO IT DOES NOT!!!"i
THESE PERSONS [in these images below, from 2006 and 2012] ARE THE VERY SAME 'MONSTERS' THAT ARE BEING RECRUITED INTO ISIS, IN SYRIA AND IRAQ TODAY;

IMAGE...

THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"

THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/

AND THOSE VERY SAME 'MONSTERS' ARE HERE TOO, WITHIN AUSTRALIA!

AND THOSE 'MONSTERS' ARE EFFECTIVELY 'SWIMMING' [finding willing refuge] WITHIN THE THE MOSLEM COMMUNITY, HERE IN AUSTRALIA.;

IMAGE...

Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.
Moslems, religious bigots, 'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' and tolerant ISLAM and moslems really are - towards those who don't hold with the views of ISIS of ISLAM and moslems.

Moslems on a Sydney street, openly demanding their right to exercise their 'freedom of religion',
.....the 'religious' right to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.
[/quote]

Quote:

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:38pm

|dev|null wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

One word describes your posts.

Fear.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:38pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

One word describes your posts.

Fear.

greggerypeccary,

Yes, i fear.

.......i fear getting caught up in the consequences, of being close, to those who choose to be tolerant of evil.

Evil, is contagious.

Evil, is a [mental] sickness.

Yadda said....

Quote:

If we tolerate evil, and wickedness, in our midst,
...we, ourselves, will become those, who are evil.

And tolerance of evil, is not 'tolerance'.

It is wickedness!

And today people just don't get that truth.

In fact most people will strenuously deny that logic.

No matter how many times we repeat the phrase, "Tolerance is desirable, and good, and peaceable.",
...our tolerance of what is clearly evil, is not a virtue.

Whenever we choose to be tolerant of evil [in our midst], it is certain, as night follows day, that we ourselves, will become evil.

Our 'tolerance' of evil, merely reveals the wickedness which is ALREADY within us!

And if you are a person who is "tolerant" of evil behaviour, DON'T KID YOURSELF,
...God hates you.

"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."
Karl Popper

"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil."
Thomas Mann

i
Quote:

A simple definition of SANITY/INSANITY.

Typically, an unrestrained sane person will act in ways which are harmless to others, and in ways which are creative, and productive [for himself, others, and society].

And typically, and conversely, an unrestrained INSANE person will act in ways which are harmful and destructive to himself, and, or, others around him.

'Normal' criminal behaviour - in mankind
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1293669294/0#0

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Brian Ross on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 1:17am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:38pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

One word describes your posts.

Fear.

Phobic?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 8:06am

IMAGE.....
http://api.news.com.au/content/1.0/newscomau/images/1227063510579?format=jpg
LAKEMBA - MOSLEMS PROTEST AGAINST TERROR RAIDS

IMAGE SOURCE...
http://mobile.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/lakemba-protest-by-muslims-who-believe-australian-terror-raids-were-unjust-policing/story-fnj3rq0y-1227062988666

In the image above, moslems from Western Sydney are protesting against police and ASIO raids that were intended to thwart a beheading murder that was being planned by moslems.

You know, moslems, those peaceful religionists.

'ISLAM is peace!' :P

In the wake of the raids and arrests, many within the Australian moslem community are now expressing criticism of the police INTERVENTION to prevent an intended beheading murder, by a group of moslems.

Why is that ?

Why are many moslems within the Australia, so opposed to the police - INTERVENTION - to prevent an intended beheading murder ?

QUESTION;
Is it because many moslems within Australia, see nothing wrong, and nothing unlawful, with beheading an infidel ?

QUESTION;
Is it because the 'religious' law of ISLAM teaches the moslem that beheading an infidel, is NOT an unlawful act, to the moslem ?

+++

Some 'impressions' from ISLAMIC sources, of what ISLAM allows and encourages....

"What makes Allah happy?
Allah is happy, when kafir get killed."

Please watch this YT...
Muslims being deceptive Islam EX-Muslims goto 4m 30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZx8cNSC9O0

Ishaq:231 ----->

Quote:

Here, for example, are two very illuminating passages from the canonical Life of Mohammed by Ibn Ishaq, as translated by A. Guillaume, and a third passage, from the earliest known Muslim historian.

Ishaq: 204 - "'Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man [Muhammad]?' 'Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.'"

Ishaq:231 - "Muslims are one ummah (community) to the exclusion of all men. Believers are friends of one another to the exclusion of all outsiders."

And here is Al-Tabari, a very early Muslim historian, in book 9, chapter or section 69, reporting words that Muslims believe to have been said by Mohammed himself - "Killing infidels is a small matter to us".

These texts are not fossils from a distant past. They are not dead letters. They are still 'live' and carry tremendous weight in the imagination and practice of many Muslims around the world.
...DDA

Google

+++

IMAGE....

Happy moslems in Syria and Iraq, because they are doing 'good works'.

Serving Allah's cause, by killing apostates.

NOTE WELL.
ISIS are butchering infidels and apostates by the thousands - in Syria and Iraq.

QUESTION;
ARE THOSE KILLINGS LAWFUL, TO THE MOSLEM ???

Did you know that ISLAMIC 'religious' law, teaches the moslem that - only moslems - are innocent people.

And that ISLAMIC 'religious' law teaches the moslem that the kuffar/infidels are guilty people, AND THAT DISBELIEVERS ARE WORTHY OF DEATH.

ISLAMIC law texts

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 8:43am

Dear Yadda,
you ask:

Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?

The answer is - they were always there waiting for their chance.
Just like a spider waiting for it's prey.

We let them come here - like a plague of insects - locusts or hornets & now we will pay the price.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 9:13am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 1:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:38pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

One word describes your posts.

Fear.

Phobic?

Yes, that's better.

Phobic.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Soren on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 9:40am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 9:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 1:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:38pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

One word describes your posts.

Fear.

Phobic?

Yes, that's better.

Phobic.

see also
anxiety aversion distaste dread hang-up loathing obsession resentment revulsion avoidance awe detestation disgust dislike fear hatred horror irrationality neurosis repulsion terror thing thing about

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 9:42am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 9:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 1:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:38pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

One word describes your posts.

Fear.

Phobic?

Yes, that's better.

Phobic.

Miam miam.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 10:17am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 1:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:38pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

One word describes your posts.

Fear.

Phobic?

Brian Ross,

You are an intensely deceitful and an intensely callous person, imo.

Phobic, implies a pathology of thinking, based upon some irrational, unfounded fear.

Brian Ross,

Are the victims of the ISIS sex camps [story below] phobic, about the intentions of moslems towards them ?

IMAGE....

'British' woman, Aqsa Mahmood - running ISIS brothels, allowing killers to rape kidnapped Yazidi women."

Mirror Online-British female jihadis running ISIS brothels allowing killers to rape kidnapped Yazidi women
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-female-jihadis-running-isis-4198165iBrian Ross,

Is David-Haines [story below] phobic, about the intentions of moslems towards him ?

Quote:

Islamic State beheads British aid worker David Haines; Cameron vows justice
Robert Spencer Sep 13, 2014

Said Cameron: “We will do everything in our power to hunt down these murderers and ensure they face justice, however long it takes.”

Everything, that is, except study and understand their motives and goals, and tell the truth about those motives and goals.....

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/islamic-state-beheads-british-aid-worker-david-haines-cameron-vows-justice

Brian Ross,

This Head [below], does not experience phobia.

This Head [below], is beyond phobia of ISLAM and of moslem intentions!

IMAGE....

Happy moslems in Syria and Iraq, because they are doing 'good works'.

Serving Allah's cause, by killing apostates.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Hot Breath on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 11:25am

Yadda wrote on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 10:17am:

Phobic, implies a pathology of thinking, based upon some irrational, unfounded fear.

So then it's an accurate description of your viewpoint? ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 12:18pm

|dev|null wrote on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 11:25am:

Yadda wrote on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 10:17am:

Phobic, implies a pathology of thinking, based upon some irrational, unfounded fear.

So then it's an accurate description of your viewpoint? ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D

Hot_Breath,

Your post expresses a view which exposes your own non-existent 'hold', upon reason and clarity.

:)

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Hot Breath on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 1:33pm

Yadda wrote on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 12:18pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 11:25am:

Yadda wrote on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 10:17am:

Phobic, implies a pathology of thinking, based upon some irrational, unfounded fear.

So then it's an accurate description of your viewpoint? ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D

Hot_Breath,

Your post expresses a view which exposes your own non-existent 'hold', upon reason and clarity.

:)

I reject your "reality" and substitute one of my own! ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Caliph adamant on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 2:37pm

|dev|null wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

One word describes your posts. Bullshit! ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

That's far too long to describe your diatribe. ~~Bull~~shiit.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 1:23am

Where have the all of these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?

Fouad Belkacem - Belgium

Q.
What is wrong with this picture [above] ?

A.
Nothing!!!!

This man is not an 'extremist' ?

Fouad Belkacem is a peace loving moslem.

And, ....'ISLAM is peace!'

Honest!!!! :D :D :D

Quote:

Belgium: Jihad Mega-Trial Begins

by Soeren Kern
October 6, 2014

"If you want to land in hell like all unbelievers that is your problem. ... We do not have an ounce of respect for you, infidels, nor for the way you live.

Our religion and way of life are superior to yours." — Fouad Belkacem.

Belkacem called for violence against the West and said that becoming a jihadist was the greatest act of submission to Allah.

.....
On the first day of the trial, which began on September 29, prosecutors told the Antwerp Criminal Court how members of Sharia4Belgium approach young men and women on the streets of Antwerp and Vilvoorde, a town just north of Brussels, and invite them to private meeting places in Antwerp.

Once in Antwerp, prosecutors say, the recruits are indoctrinated into jihadist ideology through intensive guided studies of the Koran and sustained exposure to Islamist literature. After their "brainwashing" into the subculture of Islamism, they are trained to become Syriëstrijder or "Syria warriors."

...
Another prosecutor, Ann Fransen, told the court about Sharia4Belgium's organizational structure and Belkacem's role as the group's "undisputed leader," who repeatedly incited Muslims to violence against non-Muslims. "Belkacem's words," she said, "can only be interpreted as a call to violence and jihad."

....
Belkacem added that the police officers.......were "servants of Satan" trying to "make war on Muslims,"....

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4757/belgium-jihad-trial

".......And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!"
Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan."
Koran 4.74-76

And we hear time and time again it being expressed in the mainstream media, that Western counter terrorist experts are perplexed, and these counter terrorist experts just can't put their finger on what is the critical influence, that is causing 'quiet young moslem men' to become 'radicalised moslems' - who one day, decide to stab police officers.

It must be something to do with unemployment among moslems, or racism against moslems. :D :D :D

Me, i would just like to put my hands around the necks of these Western counter terrorist experts,
......and just shake them, and shake them, and shake them.

But hey, thats just me.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by NorthOfNorth on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 1:27am

Yadda wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:38pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

One word describes your posts.

Fear.

greggerypeccary,

Yes, i fear.

.......i fear getting caught up in the consequences, of being close, to those who choose to be tolerant of evil.

Evil, is contagious.

Evil, is a [mental] sickness.

Forget evil... Learn not to fear death.... after that, the rest is easy.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 2:05am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 1:27am:

Yadda wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:38pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

One word describes your posts.

Fear.

greggerypeccary,

Yes, i fear.

.......i fear getting caught up in the consequences, of being close, to those who choose to be tolerant of evil.

Evil, is contagious.

Evil, is a [mental] sickness.

Forget evil... Learn not to fear death.... after that, the rest is easy.

Ah, my ISLAMOPHBIA is irrelevant then ?

I just have to stop fearing death ?

Is that it, North ?

:)

I am happy for you to be on your path, North.

It is not my path.

Psalms 19:7
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.

I'm not 'there' yet.

But i seek.

I trust in Gods promise.

I believe.

It is easy, for a person like myself to trust God. ;)

And, he sustains me.

Psalms 23:1
The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Dame Pansi on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 8:20am

Where did ISIL come from?

For decades now, the US and its regional allies, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries, has been playing cat and mouse with Islamist extremists trying to harness their destructive power, without yielding to this power, and for years, it has succeeded, exception made of 9/11. The post-9/11 War on Terror was supposed to be the end of this game with terror, but it wasn’t.

The same game is being played again, this time in the Fertile Crescent region of the Middle East, thanks to two events: the 2003 American-led invasion of Iraq and the 2011 toppling of regimes in Tunisia, Egypt and Libya, along with the three-year-old failed attempt at regime change in Syria – which came to be called the ‘Arab Spring’.

As ISIS descends now on Mosul and other cities in Iraq, including Samarra, a perfect storm is gathering. Its outcome is certain to produce only atrocities and wars for years. And as ISIS descends on Mosul, and Samarra, and Baghdad, there will be no escape this time for the US and its regional allies, who have been playing cat and mouse with these groups for over three decades now, but to look into the eye of the storm and act responsibly, to own the monster they have created.

http://rt.com/op-edge/169364-isis-american-wars-mosul/

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Soren on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 8:45am

The multicultural utopia with jolly Pakistanis adding spice to London, Saudis putting up little mosques on the Canadian prairie and sassy Shiites bringing diversity to Dearborn, isn’t just propaganda—it’s the imaginary world that they want to live in. The new world order that they have imagined of a friendly multicultural democratic is their idea of the world as it should be-- a utopia created and maintained at our expense, and in the face of all reality and reason.

The illusion of Islam has, like the banking system, become too big to fail. It cannot fail because it would take too much else down with it, leaving behind a harder world. No matter how unintegrated Muslims in Europe are, the Eurocrats must insist that, aside from a few exploding bumps in the road, everything is going according to plan. Any day now a lesbian Imam will be preaching the virtues of secularism in Finsbury Park. It must be that way because the alternative is unthinkable.

In Israel, the Two-State Solution must still be the solution, because the alternative is eternal conflict. In the rest of the region, Arab Democracy must be viable, because otherwise there is nothing left but despair over an irredeemable barbarism.

We gotta have faith, not in any deity, including the chief deity of Islam, but in our leaders. Muslims believe that Allah is infallible, while we are expected to believe that the politicians and professors, the diplomats and journalists, are. That they are right, even when the continuing violence proves that they are wrong.

The people who shape our half of the world have fallen for the Nigerian Prince scam of Islam and they need to believe that they know what they are doing and they need us to believe it too. And when the check from Lagos doesn’t clear, when the bombs go off, the cars burn, the children are murdered in schools and the rockets fly, then they don’t blame Prince Hussein Ngobo, the car bombers, terrorists and throatslitters—they blame us for ruining the illusion by not believing in it too.

It would have all worked if only we had been as willing to be lied to as our gullible masters. -

See more at: http://sultanknish.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/a-nigerian-prince-called-islam.html?#sthash.R0FvJIkO.dpuf

And so with all the apologist for Abbott, Cameron, Bush, O’Bama on these boards when they come up with the ’ne plus ultra of multicultural delusion’: Islam is a religion of peace and the ongoing violence as well as the nonviolent refusal to integrate into western society have nothing to do with it.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 9:50am

Soren wrote on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

.....
.....
In Israel, the Two-State Solution must still be the solution, because the alternative is eternal conflict.

In the rest of the region, Arab Democracy must be viable, because otherwise there is nothing left but despair over an irredeemable barbarism.

We gotta have faith........

See more at: http://sultanknish.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/a-nigerian-prince-called-islam.html?#sthash.R0FvJIkO.dpuf

Soren,

Sadly    :'( , the Two-State Solution isn't going to be a viable option for peace in the Middle East.

Soren,

People must embrace the One-State Solution, for peace, in the Middle East !!!!

The One-State Solution, is an option which guarantees peace for the Middle East !!!!

"Handing control of the Middle East over to the Jews, is SUCH a terrific idea!!!!..."

Klavan's One-State Solution_ Give the Middle East to the Jews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEeiDjdUuU

3 minutes of brilliance!!!!! ...Klavan must be a Jew!

Only a Jewish mind could envision such a creative solution, to 'the Jewish problem', of the Middle East.             ;)

p.s.
Coming soon, the One-State Solution.

The One-State Solution is much, much closer to the reality of how the problem of ISLAMIC barbarism in the Middle East will be resolved, than many of us could ever imagine.          ;)

It is the God of Israel who is in charge of the planning of the implementation of the 'resolution' of this problem.

So we can be confident that all will end well - for all of the peoples of the earth.

I'm dreaming, you say ?

Don't be such a pessimist, i say!!!!!!!

;)

Genesis 12:3
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Genesis 18:18
Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?

Genesis 22:18
And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.

Genesis 26:4
.....and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

Genesis 28:14
.....and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 10:01am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 1:27am:

Forget evil...

Learn not to fear death.... after that, the rest is easy.

John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

What did Jesus say about 'God', and about men finding life [i.e. the !! LIFE !! that comes from God] ?

John 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Jesus said the scriptures, testify of who ? ? ?

2 Timothy 3:15
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Isaiah 43:10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

God is our redeemer.

God is our peace, and our LIFE.

Isaiah 48:22
There is no peace, saith the LORD, unto the wicked.

Isaiah 57:21
There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

Luke 24:25
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Luke 24:44
And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

John 5:40
AND YE WILL NOT COME TO ME, THAT YE MIGHT HAVE LIFE.

Jesus said....

John 5:43
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not:....

And....

John 5:46
....had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

Amos 5:4
For thus saith the LORD unto the house of Israel, Seek ye me, and ye shall live:

Psalms 5:4
For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1411359843/3#3

Quote:

Those who seek and love the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, are joined by a peaceful spirit.

Exodus 25:8
And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.

Exodus 29:45
And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will be their God.

Exodus 29:46
And they shall know that I am the LORD their God, that brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, that I may dwell among them: I am the LORD their God.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 10:18am

isis came from islam

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Caliph adamant on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 10:30am

|dev|null wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

One word describes your posts. Bullshit!

Thanks for an outstanding e_fart by your good self. If you have no contribution to make, why say anything?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Caliph adamant on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 10:32am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 1:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:38pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

One word describes your posts.

Fear.

Phobic?

One word describes your posts Brian, stupid.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Soren on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 10:54am

Yadda wrote on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 9:50am:

Soren wrote on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

Soren,

Sadly :'( , the Two-State Solution isn't going to be a viable option for peace in the Middle East.

That’s why it was listed as an illusion in the article.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by moses on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 11:52am

Well let's not forget the words of wisdom from our proven liar and apologist for islamic atrocities on this board.

It went something along the lines of:

isis brotherhood and Sunday schools / boy scouts are comparable.

islamic doctrine which extols terrorism, torture and mass murder as the higher path for muslims, is compatible with the Pope telling Catholic women not to take the pill.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Hot Breath on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 4:30pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 2:05am:

Ah, my ISLAMOPHBIA is irrelevant then ?

YES! Finally! You admit it! YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Soren on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 4:37pm

|dev|null wrote on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 4:30pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 2:05am:

Ah, my ISLAMOPHBIA is irrelevant then ?

YES! Finally! You admit it! YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

Can you see the question mark, stupid ?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 7:39pm

Quote:

Libyan soldier blames Brits for sex attacks by Libyan cadets in UK: "They didn't tell us...what's the difference between right and wrong here."
Nov 06, 2014 10:58 am | Robert Spencer

The British authorities should have told the Libyan cadets that in Britain, the Qur'an verses that allow for the capture and use of Infidel women as sex slaves are not to be acted upon.

But to have told them that would have been "Islamophobic." "The believers must (eventually) win through, those who humble themselves in […]

Google

"ISLAM rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."
- The Muslim Council of Britain

And raping infidel women, is 'peace and harmony' for every moslem man, ....don't ya know ?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 7:47pm

The allure of ISLAM to a 13 year old moslem boy, in Turkey....

A 13 year old Syrian moslem boy, living in Turkey....

"I like Islamic State because they pursue Sharia and kill infidels, non-Sunnis and those who converted from Islam."

Quote:

13-year-old Muslim: “I like Islamic State because they pursue Sharia and kill infidels”
Robert Spencer Nov 6, 2014
.....
In a cramped living room in southern Turkey, a 13-year-old boy is training to join Islamic State.
.....
“I like Islamic State because they pursue Sharia and kill infidels, non-Sunnis and those who converted from Islam,” he says.

“The people killed by Islamic State are American agents. We must behead them as Allah said in the Koran.”
.....
“Britain should be attacked because it’s in Nato and is against Islamic State,” he says, “but we would kill only those who deserve it. If they ask me to attack Turkey and give me a holy order, I would do it. Soon the West will be finished.”
....
....
[his mother...]“I can’t stop him if he wants to fight,” she says.

“War makes children grow up fast. I want him to become a future leader – an emir.”

Steadily her voice grows in intensity, her eyes narrowing in anger above the scarf she uses to cover her face.

“I would not be sad if he killed Westerners. I’m ashamed that my other sons are working peacefully for civil society groups – they must take up arms.”

How would she feel, I ask, if he dies fighting for Islamic State?

She pauses. “I would be so happy,” she replies, before bowing her head to cry….

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/11/13-year-old-muslim-i-like-islamic-state-because-they-pursue-sharia-and-kill-infidels

But the 'radicalisation' of this 13 year old moslem boy, has got nothing to do with ISLAM nor with the influence [upon his mind] of ISLAMIC religious texts. :P

Honest!!!!

Just ask Tony [the truth speaker].

"The suggestion that mainstream Islam is anything but a religion of peace is nonsense."
- Prime Minister Tony Abbott

+++

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by wally1 on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 8:25pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

Get your info right, it was Brandis that made that quote not abbott.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 8^th, 2014 at 10:38am

wally1 wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 8:25pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

.....the 'radicalisation' of this 13 year old moslem boy, has got nothing to do with ISLAM nor with the influence [upon his mind] of ISLAMIC religious texts. :P

Honest!!!!

Just ask Tony [the truth speaker].

"The suggestion that mainstream Islam is anything but a religion of peace is nonsense."
- Prime Minister Tony Abbott

Get your info right, it was Brandis that made that quote not abbott.

Thank you wally.

You are correct.

It was Brandis that said.....

"The suggestion that mainstream Islam is anything but a religion of peace is nonsense."

Quote:

SHORTLY after the September 11, 2001, attacks on the US, President George W. Bush established a protocol still observed by politicians worldwide more than 13 years later.

.....
.....
Bush returned to that theme during his second term: “I believe Islam is a great religion that preaches peace.”

Thus began a tradition followed all over the planet.

“There is not a problem with Islam. For those of us who have studied it, there is no doubt about its true and peaceful nature,” former British PM Tony Blair said.

Current British PM David Cameron said the same after British aid worker David Haines was beheaded by Islamic extremists: “Islam is a religion of peace. They are not Muslim, they are monsters.”

....
....
Many in Australia, from Prime Minister Tony Abbott down, have lately joined in on the “religion of peace” mantra. Here’s Attorney-General George Brandis: “It is one of the world’s great religions. The suggestion that mainstream Islam is anything but a religion of peace is nonsense.”

Many in Australia, from Prime Minister Tony Abbott down, have lately joined in on the “religion of peace” mantra

Liberal Senator Concetta Fierravanti-Wells: “The terrorists are misusing the name of Islam and giving the community a bad name. I would implore the Australian public to understand this is not about Islam. It is about terrorists and a death cult.”

....
....
‘We swear by almighty Allah’

Killer Mujahid Adeboloja, his hands covered in blood, stood in the street near Rigby’s almost-decapitated body and explained himself.

“We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you. You people will never be safe,” Islamic covert Adeboloja said.

“There are many, many ayah throughout the Koran that we must fight them as they fight us, an eye for an eye, a tooth for tooth.”

This wasn’t clear enough for SBS, where host Hannah Sinclair pressed London-based Australian journalist Adam McIlrick for details:

....
....
The ABC’s London correspondent was equally perplexed: “What happened was clear, the motivation, less so.”

No wonder Muslim extremists are frustrated. They literally stand in the middle of the street telling everybody that they killed for Allah and nobody seems to hear them.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/islam-is-a-religion-of-enemies-in-pieces/story-fni0cwl5-1227065765100?nk=d5cc8299aa000945d94fad8a7138eed0

Quote:

The Islamic State and ‘Religion of Peace’

As a faith, and a civilization built upon that faith, Islam over the centuries has displayed many faces, some peaceful and others not. Against the threat of violent Islam in our time, bland and disingenuous assertions of Islam’s essentially peaceful character are inadequate

http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2014/09/islamic-state-religion-peace/

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 8:57am

"It simply confirmed concerns that too many Muslims have a group loyalty and inflamed sense of victimhood that made them the sea in which jihadists swim."
- Andrew Bolt

Quote:

“Too many Muslims have a group loyalty and inflamed sense of victimhood”
Robert Spencer Nov 9, 2014

Clearly, Muslims in Australia are working from the same playbook that Muslims in the U.S. are using: claims that anti-terror measures unfairly target Muslims and were the real problem, complaints about the freedom of speech, exaggerated claims of victimhood, etc. Who is coordinating all this? In any case, it is good to see that at least some people are beginning to see through it.

“Jihadists not the only problem,” by Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun, November 5, 2014:

Google

There are no moderate moslems.

A moslem is a follower of ISLAM.

And there is no moderate ISLAM.

e.g.

Quote:

Malaysia: Muslims accuse organizer of dog-petting event of apostasy, threaten to kill him
Robert Spencer Oct 22, 2014

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/10/malaysia-muslims-accuse-organizer-of-dog-petting-event-of-apostasy-threaten-to-kill-him

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

ISLAM......

ISLAMIC LAW
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

THE KORAN
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

THE 'PROPHET' OF ISLAM
"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/

We need to separate ourselves from this great evil [which is everywhere in the world today].

Its your choice.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:22am

AGAIN, IT IS PEOPLE CLAIMING TO BE MOSLEMS.....

BUT THIS BEHAVIOUR HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH PEACEFUL MOSLEMS, AND WITH THE PEACEFUL TEACHINGS OF MAINSTREAM ISLAM!....

Honest!!!! :P

Quote:

Nigeria: Jihad-martyrdom suicide bomber murders 48 at high school assembly
Nov 10, 2014 10:47 am | Robert Spencer

Google

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:24am

AGAIN, IT IS PEOPLE CLAIMING TO BE MOSLEMS.....

BUT THIS BEHAVIOUR HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH PEACEFUL MOSLEMS, AND WITH THE PEACEFUL TEACHINGS OF MAINSTREAM ISLAM!....

Honest!!!! :P

Quote:

UK: Hotel footage shows Muslim rape gang member luring 13-year-old girl
Nov 09, 2014 01:49 pm | Robert Spencer

Google

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:25am

AGAIN, IT IS PEOPLE CLAIMING TO BE MOSLEMS.....

BUT THIS BEHAVIOUR HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH PEACEFUL MOSLEMS, AND WITH THE PEACEFUL TEACHINGS OF MAINSTREAM ISLAM!....

Honest!!!! :P

Quote:

France: Muslims firebomb kosher restaurant after calling diners “dirty Jews”
Nov 09, 2014 10:41 pm | Robert Spencer

Google

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:26am

ABSURD BRITIANIA....

Quote:

UK officials hesitate to prosecute returning jihadis for fear of seeming “anti-Muslim”
Nov 09, 2014 11:06 pm | Robert Spencer

Google

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:29am

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

[Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,].....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

Here is a recent article that seems to expose those particular claims by 'the moslem', as the BLATANT lies that they are...

Quote:

Libyan city of Darna pledges allegiance to the Islamic State
Nov 09, 2014 01:22 pm | Robert Spencer

Google

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:31am

Canada: “Peaceful teachings of Islam” event threatened by un-peaceful Muslims
Nov 09, 2014 11:28 pm | Robert Spencer

“You’d be shocked to hear that there are students on campus who have very extreme views. So much so, that they question whether what ISIS is doing is right or wrong, and don’t completely condemn their actions.”

Google

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:32am

Egyptian Islamic jihad group swears allegiance to the Islamic State
Nov 08, 2014 11:19 am | Robert Spencer

Google

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:33am

Turkey’s Deputy PM denounces “Islamophobia,” says Islam is religion of peace
Nov 08, 2014 07:22 pm | Robert Spencer

“Islam is a religion of peace and soundness, not a religion that creates terror between people.” Oh, good. Glad he cleared that up. All those Muslims creating terror among non-Muslims — the Islamic State, al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, Hamas, and all the rest? Pay no attention! Islam is a religion of peace and soundness!

Google

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:34am

Islamic State calls for jihad on Egypt, in Cairo itself, specifically targeting Christian Copts
Nov 07, 2014 07:52 am | Raymond Ibrahim

Google

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:35am

Islamic State jihadi justifies massacres by invoking Muhammad, who “slaughtered 700 people”
Nov 07, 2014 09:50 am | Robert Spencer

Google

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:36am

UK jihadi cleric Anjem Choudary: Give me my passport and let me join the Islamic State
Nov 07, 2014 10:32 am | Robert Spencer

Google

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:42am

CNN falsely claims that Islamic law does not justify slavery
Nov 07, 2014 11:11 am | Robert Spencer

“The CNN Freedom Project: Ending Modern-Day Slavery” has published a piece entitled “ISIS says Islam justifies slavery – what does Islamic law say?,” by Professor Bernard Freamon,

Google

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Hot Breath on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 1:04pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:42am:

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Your fevered, frustrated imagination? ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Datalife on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 1:19pm

|dev|null wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:42am:

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Your fevered, frustrated imagination? ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

ISIS is real edit.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Hot Breath on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 1:55pm

Datalife wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 1:19pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:42am:

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Your fevered, frustrated imagination? ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

ISIS is real edit.

Oooh, DL I never realised you cared. ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

ISIS is real but the "monsters" in largely in Yadda's imagination DL.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Datalife on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 2:12pm

|dev|null wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 1:55pm:

Datalife wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 1:19pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:42am:

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Your fevered, frustrated imagination? ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

ISIS is real edit.

Oooh, DL I never realised you cared. ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

ISIS is real but the "monsters" in largely in Yadda's imagination DL.

I forgot you are too dim to understand metaphors. This may assist your comprehension.

https://www.udemy.com/blog/metaphor-examples-for-kids/

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Hot Breath on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 2:21pm

Datalife wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 2:12pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 1:55pm:

Datalife wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 1:19pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:42am:

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Your fevered, frustrated imagination? ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

ISIS is real edit.

Oooh, DL I never realised you cared. ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

ISIS is real but the "monsters" in largely in Yadda's imagination DL.

I forgot you are too dim to understand metaphors. This may assist your comprehension.

https://www.udemy.com/blog/metaphor-examples-for-kids/

Oh, I comprehend metaphors fine DL. What I don't comprehend is humourlessness. Its a bit like Hippolarconinsomiaphobia. Do you suffer from it? I think Velcro would help. ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by gandalf on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 2:46pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:42am:

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Q. Who is the Kaffir?

You, muslim - you are the kaffir

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 3:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2014 at 8:43am:

The world bred them: as we are the world we will have to deal with them!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by ozzyoi on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 8:22pm

Quote:

Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?

Bored and Unemployed Young Generation cos the Chinese have taken all the jobs.

So blame the corporates, but who are the corporates ?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 10:09pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 2:46pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:42am:

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Q. Who is the Kaffir?

You, muslim - you are the kaffir

That’s right.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 10:49pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 2:46pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:42am:

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Q. Who is the Kaffir?

You, muslim - you are the kaffir

gandalf,

Its good to see you finally, openly acknowledging, that you are really an infidel.

And everyone is [hopefully], coming to see that 'the moslem' today, defines what an infidel is.

Moslem = = infidel.

A person who is an enemy of the true God.

The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Dictionary;
infidelity = =
1 the action or state of being sexually unfaithful.
2 lack of religious faith.i
kuffar = = infidel = = 'a person who hides, denies, or covers the truth' = = a liar
= = i.e. A MOSLEM

"Dear muslim, YOU are the kuffar"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1229682951/0#0

Quote:

You who embrace ISLAM, your own lies and deception, have become a witness against you, before God......

"kuffar" = = "...is an Arabic word meaning.....[an unbeliever] a person....who hides, denies, or covers the truth."

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 11:31pm

An oldie but a goodie, Y. You first posted that one 12 years ago. FD was still at uni, studying Freeeedom.

A classic. Ah, the good old days.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 11:33pm

Takes me back to my Nam days son.
Them were the days what

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 11:43pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 11:33pm:

Takes me back to my Nam days son.
Them were the days what

Kiddies like you played with their sht while men like me fought Yanks in Nam. Big black bulls bareknuckling in the ring with hard little Aussie cnts. We knew how to fight too. We never gave up. Who cares if they creamed us? We got the odd one in and we stood on our own two feet.

While we tasted our own blood, you were eating Frosties and being wanked by Mum in the bath.

Lest we forget.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 11:51pm

Your dates are a bit mixed up there son. I was born some years after you lost to the men in pyjamas and straw hats.

Frosties were nice though. Tony the Tigerrrrrrr eh

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 11:51pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 11:43pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 11:33pm:

Takes me back to my Nam days son.
Them were the days what

You are still working hard at trying to perfect that faux sincerity, i see K.

Keep trying harder, K.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 12:04am

Yadda wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 11:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 11:43pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 11:33pm:

Takes me back to my Nam days son.
Them were the days what

You are still working hard at trying to perfect that faux sincerity, i see K.

Keep trying harder, K.

How are those Moslem white supremacists going, son? You know, the ones called Stormfront.

Making any ground?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 12:19am

Karnal was in Nam you know.

Or was that played 'Nam 67 like me on the Xbox.

I could never get past the bit where you had to blow the bridge up.

Nasty business....

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 6:29am

That’s because you’re a Yarpie powder puff.

You blokes make good wives, but I wouldn’t want to fight next to you.

I know your type. You’re a runner. You’ll run straight into enemy hands at the first sign of a fight.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 8:48am

80% of young Turks in Netherlands see nothing wrong with jihad against unbelievers
Nov 12, 2014 08:23 pm | Robert Spencer

And Dutch officials are shocked — because few if any of them ever troubled to read the Qur’an or study Islam, and they are confident that only greasy Islamophobes think that there is support for jihad violence among any Muslims beyond a tiny minority of extremists.

“Young Dutch Turks’ radical views worry MPs,......

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A tiny majority.... :P 'of young Turks in Netherlands see nothing wrong with jihad against unbelievers' !!!!

I don't believe it! :P

'Peace' and perfection, in the INERRANT Koran;

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 8:53am

Islamic State teen jihadi: “This is jihad that all of us must do”
Nov 12, 2014 02:49 pm | Robert Spencer

His father told him that the Islamic State was wrong, but how did he get the idea that they were right in the first place? Why was whatever training he had in Islam before he met the Islamic State recruiter not sufficient to withstand the recruiter’s Islamic appeal?

Google

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 9:00am

UK Muslim: “I want to see every single woman in this country covered from head to toe”
Nov 12, 2014 08:56 am | Robert Spencer

How lovely Theresa May will look — and when she dons the burqa or niqab for the first time, she will deserve a note of gratitude from this Islamic supremacist and all the others she enabled with her appeasement and demonization of foes of jihad terror. But she won’t get it.

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David Cameron, Theresa May, .....cowardly, idiot enablers of evil, and of wanna-be-murderers.

'Peace' and perfection, in the INERRANT Koran;

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by The Outrage Bus on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 9:01am

Want me to start quoting the evil parts of the Bible.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 9:23am

Pakistan’s Hindus: Muslims “want us to give up the faith or leave the country”
Nov 12, 2014 07:02 am | Robert Spencer

“We are looted but our voice is not heard by the people in the saddle, our temples are attacked in broad daylight but no one takes action, our girls are kidnapped and forcibly converted only to hear more empty promises of justice.”

Google

Quote:

ISIS is largely made up of moslem emigres who have come from [moslem communities living in] Western nations.

ISIS is a creature of the West's own making.

Give the gift of freedoms to moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

Empower moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.

The mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 9:28am

Islamophobia outbreak in Germany: Islamic State supporters arrested
Nov 12, 2014 06:51 am | Robert Spencer

They were robbing churches to get money to send to the Islamic State.

The glories of multiculturalism!

Google

Quote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.

The mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

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Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Hot Breath on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 2:43pm

Repetition doesn't make the story any saner Yadda. ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by wally1 on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 7:37am

You got a sword Yadda?

Jesus said to sell your cloak and buy a sword.

Use the sword for gardening you know,honest

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 9:48am

Christian = a follower of Christianity.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Soren on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:15pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 9:01am:

Want me to start quoting the evil parts of the Bible.

Yeah, do.

Start with the New Testament, please.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:23pm

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:15pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 9:01am:

Want me to start quoting the evil parts of the Bible.

Yeah, do.

Start with the New Testament, please.

Matthew 5.44: Love thine enemy and pray for those that persecute thee.

Shurely shome mishtake, eh?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Soren on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 1:09pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:15pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 9:01am:

Want me to start quoting the evil parts of the Bible.

Yeah, do.

Start with the New Testament, please.

Matthew 5.44: Love thine enemy and pray for those that persecute thee.

Shurely shome mishtake, eh?

How is that evil, numpty?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 2:30pm

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 1:09pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:15pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 9:01am:

Want me to start quoting the evil parts of the Bible.

Yeah, do.

Start with the New Testament, please.

Matthew 5.44: Love thine enemy and pray for those that persecute thee.

Shurely shome mishtake, eh?

How is that evil, numpty?

It goes against every principle you stand for.

I hope I’ve helped in some small way.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Soren on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 2:41pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 1:09pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:15pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 9:01am:

Want me to start quoting the evil parts of the Bible.

Yeah, do.

Start with the New Testament, please.

Matthew 5.44: Love thine enemy and pray for those that persecute thee.

Shurely shome mishtake, eh?

How is that evil, numpty?

It goes against every principle you stand for.

I hope I’ve helped in some small way.

I have enemies? Who are my enemies?
I am persecuted? Who persecutes me?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 3:07pm

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 2:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 1:09pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:15pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 14^th, 2014 at 9:01am:

Want me to start quoting the evil parts of the Bible.

Yeah, do.

Start with the New Testament, please.

Matthew 5.44: Love thine enemy and pray for those that persecute thee.

Shurely shome mishtake, eh?

How is that evil, numpty?

It goes against every principle you stand for.

I hope I’ve helped in some small way.

I have enemies? Who are my enemies?
I am persecuted? Who persecutes me?

No one. That’s the beauty of it.

Offended daily rants against people in pyjamas, bearded numpties and people with cloth on their heads.

They do bother you so.

No one has the right to not be offended, no?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by wally1 on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 7:55am

Beautiful article.

http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/from-pol-pot-to-isis-anything-that-flies-on-everything-that-moves/

John Pilger on ISIS: Only When We See the War Criminals In Our Midst Will the Blood Begin to Dry

In transmitting President Richard Nixon's orders for a "massive" bombing of Cambodia in 1969, Henry Kissinger said, "Anything that flies on everything that moves". As Barack Obama ignites his seventh war against the Muslim world since he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, the orchestrated hysteria and lies make one almost nostalgic for Kissinger's murderous honesty.

As a witness to the human consequences of aerial savagery - including the beheading of victims, their parts festooning trees and fields - I am not surprised by the disregard of memory and history, yet again. A telling example is the rise to power of Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge, who had much in common with today's Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS). They, too, were ruthless medievalists who began as a small sect. They, too, were the product of an American-made apocalypse, this time in Asia.

According to Pol Pot, his movement had consisted of "fewer than 5,000 poorly armed guerrillas uncertain about their strategy, tactics, loyalty and leaders". Once Nixon's and Kissinger's B52 bombers had gone to work as part of "Operation Menu", the west's ultimate demon could not believe his luck.

The Americans dropped the equivalent of five Hiroshimas on rural Cambodia during 1969-73. They levelled village after village, returning to bomb the rubble and corpses. The craters left monstrous necklaces of carnage, still visible from the air. The terror was unimaginable. A former Khmer Rouge official described how the survivors "froze up and they would wander around mute for three or four days. Terrified and half-crazy, the people were ready to believe what they were told... That was what made it so easy for the Khmer Rouge to win the people over."

A Finnish Government Commission of Enquiry estimated that 600,000 Cambodians died in the ensuing civil war and described the bombing as the "first stage in a decade of genocide". What Nixon and Kissinger began, Pol Pot, their beneficiary, completed. Under their bombs, the Khmer Rouge grew to a formidable army of 200,000.

ISIS has a similar past and present. By most scholarly measure, Bush and Blair's invasion of Iraq in 2003 led to the deaths of some 700,000 people - in a country that had no history of jihadism. The Kurds had done territorial and political deals; Sunni and Shia had class and sectarian differences, but they were at peace; intermarriage was common. Three years before the invasion, I drove the length of Iraq without fear. On the way I met people proud, above all, to be Iraqis, the heirs of a civilization that seemed, for them, a presence.

Bush and Blair blew all this to bits. Iraq is now a nest of jihadism. Al-Qaeda - like Pol Pot's "jihadists" - seized the opportunity provided by the onslaught of Shock and Awe and the civil war that followed. "Rebel" Syria offered even greater rewards, with CIA and Gulf state ratlines of weapons, logistics and money running through Turkey. The arrival of foreign recruits was inevitable. A former British ambassador, Oliver Miles, wrote recently, "The [Cameron] government seems to be following the example of Tony Blair, who ignored consistent advice from the Foreign Office, MI5 and MI6 that our Middle East policy - and in particular our Middle East wars - had been a principal driver in the recruitment of Muslims in Britain for terrorism here."

ISIS is the progeny of those in Washington and London who, in destroying Iraq as both a state and a society, conspired to commit an epic crime against humanity. Like Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, ISIS are the mutations of a western state terror dispensed by a venal imperial elite undeterred by the consequences of actions taken at great remove in distance and culture. Their culpability is unmentionable in "our" societies.

It is 23 years since this holocaust enveloped Iraq, immediately after the first Gulf War, when the US and Britain hijacked the United Nations Security Council and imposed punitive "sanctions" on the Iraqi population - ironically, reinforcing the domestic authority of Saddam Hussein. It was like a medieval siege. Almost everything that sustained a modern state was, in the jargon, "blocked" - from chlorine for making the water supply safe to school pencils, parts for X-ray machines, common painkillers and drugs to combat previously unknown cancers carried in the dust from the southern battlefields contaminated with Depleted Uranium.

Just before Christmas 1999, the Department of Trade and Industry in London restricted the export of vaccines meant to protect Iraqi children against diphtheria and yellow fever. Kim Howells, parliamentary Under-Secretary of State in the Blair government, explained why. "The children's vaccines", he said, "were capable of being used in weapons of mass destruction". The British Government could get away with such an outrage because media reporting of Iraq - much of it manipulated by the Foreign Office - blamed Saddam Hussein for everything.

Under a bogus "humanitarian" Oil for Food Programme, $100 was allotted for each Iraqi to live on for a year. This figure had to pay for the entire society's infrastructure and essential services, such as power and water. "Imagine," the UN Assistant Secretary General, Hans Von Sponeck, told me, "s

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Soren on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 11:33am

wally1 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 7:55am:

Beautiful article.

John Pilger

Nuf said.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 17^th, 2014 at 6:48am

UK: Jihadist skips bail, flees to Islamic State
Nov 15, 2014 11:55 am | Robert Spencer

He was forbidden to leave the country; Britain wants to keep its jihadis.
But he eluded authorities, which is no doubt very easy to do in Clueless Britannia, and fled to the Islamic State.
But not to worry, Abu Rumaysah, if you have “good intentions,” you can come back whenever you wish.....

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Quote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 17^th, 2014 at 6:56am

US discussing training Free Syrian Army members with Turkey
Nov 15, 2014 11:46 am | Robert Spencer

The U.S. and Turkey are discussing Turkey’s training of 2,000 Free Syrian Army rebels — to fight the Islamic State.

In July 2013, Free Syrian Army fighters entered the Christian village of Oum Sharshouh and began burning down houses and terrorizing the population, forcing 250 Christian families to flee the area......

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The present US administration is INSANE, imo!!

Dumb!

Dumb!

Dumb!

The present US administration has a bevy of moslem [ISLAMIC] 'advisers' - who are seeking to lead the US political leadership, to...... where ?

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98i
Quote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 17^th, 2014 at 7:00am

Smuggler says he sends Islamic State jihadis to Europe via Turkey
Nov 15, 2014 10:10 am | Robert Spencer

“The Western world thinks there is no ISIS in their countries — that all the jihadis have gone to fight and die in Syria. But this man said, ‘No. We are sending our fighters to take their places.’” “Smuggler Says He Sent ISIS Fighters To Europe,”.....

Googlei
Quote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 17^th, 2014 at 10:05pm

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Err, well, ....for one, Western Sydney ???

[Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,].....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

One CONTINUING source of ISIS cadres, is the prison population of Western nations which are playing hosts to moslem communities....

Quote:

U.S. prison was ‘terrorist university’ for Islamic State
Nov 16, 2014 05:19 pm | Robert Spencer

This is because the U.S. does nothing in these prisons to try to change the mindset of the prisoners.

The guards treat the Qur’an, which is of course distributed to all the prisoners, with exaggerated reverence......

Googlei
Quote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 17^th, 2014 at 10:20pm

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Err, well, ....for one, Western Sydney ???

[Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,].....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

A [media] prominent UK moslem, doesn't like criticism of moslems/ISLAM.

He wants Western nations to legislate, to criminalise both criticism - AND ANY SCRUTINY - of the 'source' of ISLAMIC violence [just like Sharia law does, in moslem majority jurisdictions!]....

Quote:

Mehdi Hasan goes full fascist, calls for sanctions for criticism of Muslims
Nov 16, 2014 09:55 am | Robert Spencer

I wrote this piece this morning over at PamelaGeller.com about the deceptive and dishonest British Islamic supremacist Mehdi Hasan: Mehdi Hasan is Britain’s answer to Reza Aslan:

a mainstream media darling whose fawning sycophants never challenge him on

his numerous misstatements and deceptive claims about Islam

And also like Aslan, he is a foe of the freedom of speech; like other Islamic supremacists,

he wants Islam’s blasphemy laws brought to the West

in the guise of “hate speech” laws, and applied in order to silence all criticism of Islam, including examinations of how Islamic texts and teachings incite people to acts of hatred and violence.......

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Quote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 10:25pm

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Err, well, ....for one, Western Sydney ???

[Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,].....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

The worldwide moslem community continues to deny any association with ISIS cadres.

But ISIS cadres continue to be 'sourced' from within moslem communities, worldwide.

Quote:

Virginia Muslima charged with attempting to support the Islamic State
Nov 17, 2014 06:31 pm | Robert Spencer

Heather Elizabeth Coffman appears to be a convert to Islam, although that is not stated in this article.

Thus she becomes just the latest in a long string of examples of the fact that

Muslim leaders in the U.S. are either unable or unwilling to teach converts why they should avoid this understanding of Islam......

Google

Western terrorism experts should examine the contents of the Koran and teh Hadith.

Then the Western terrorism experts would understand why ISLAM is ISIS, and why ISIS is ISLAM.iQuote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 11:19pm

Islamic State crucifies senior member who was accused of embezzling funds and theft
Nov 17, 2014 09:49 am | Robert Spencer

He must have been accused of more than just theft, the penalty for which in Sharia is amputation of the hand (Qur’an 5:38). Or perhaps the scale of his thefts and embezzlement made it eligible to be considered as spreading corruption in the land — and one of the Qur’anic penalties for that is crucifixion.......

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ISIS can't be all bad.

Eh ?

We need ISIS, here, in Australia.

Because we need to replace 'democracy', with Sharia!

Coz ISLAM is pure, and as white as the driven snow!!!!!
.....or, is that 'as red as the driven snow' ??????

.....we need to see blood flowing in the streets [ ....that is what ISIS and 'the moslem' - in Australia - believe].

as per being declared, here.....
Muslims brainwash children in Australia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Hot Breath on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 10:55am

Soren wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

wally1 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 7:55am:

Beautiful article.

John Pilger

Nuf said.

Trying to shoot the messenger Soren? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 6:53pm

|dev|null wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 10:55am:

Soren wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

wally1 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 7:55am:

Beautiful article.

John Pilger

Nuf said.

Trying to shoot the messenger Soren? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Soren on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 7:17pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 6:53pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 10:55am:

Soren wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

wally1 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 7:55am:

Beautiful article.

John Pilger

Nuf said.

Trying to shoot the messenger Soren? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

John Bilger is the message.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Hot Breath on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 9:21pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 6:53pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 10:55am:

Soren wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

wally1 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 7:55am:

Beautiful article.

John Pilger

Nuf said.

Trying to shoot the messenger Soren? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Yadda, its good to see you starting to embrace your inner lunacy! Well done, there is hope for you yet! ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by SpecialCharacter on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 10:25pm

|dev|null wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

Yadda, its good to see you starting to embrace your inner lunacy!

Just ask HB - he's the knave of nuttiness.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Soren on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 8:33am

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 10:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

Yadda, its good to see you starting to embrace your inner lunacy!

Just ask HB - he's the knave of nuttiness.

HB is nuttier than squirrel sh!t.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 8:40am

Soren wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 8:33am:

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 10:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

Yadda, its good to see you starting to embrace your inner lunacy!

Just ask HB - he's the knave of nuttiness.

HB is nuttier than squirrel sh!t.

Miam miam.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 8:24pm

Soren wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 8:33am:

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 10:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

Yadda, its good to see you starting to embrace your inner lunacy!

Just ask HB - he's the knave of nuttiness.

HB is nuttier than squirrel sh!t.

You really do have this thing about faeces, Soren. Very, very Freudian... ::)

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Soren on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 9:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 8:24pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 8:33am:

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 10:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

Yadda, its good to see you starting to embrace your inner lunacy!

Just ask HB - he's the knave of nuttiness.

HB is nuttier than squirrel sh!t.

You really do have this thing about faeces, Soren. Very, very Freudian... ::)

It's not that.
It the Paki Bvgger constantly following me around, sniffing my trouser legs and the arsey area, always on the look-out for his his next sh!te sandwich ("miam miam" he calls it) - a bit like you, constantly sniffing for heresies.

So I occasionally get into your mental zones and both of you being absolutely full to the brim with shite, I get a bit tainted. This is what you are sniffing out now and so I am setting you straight. Dealing with you two and Hot Breath, one gets covered in the stuff.... Price - almost said burden - of engaging with the spineless apologist community.i

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 9:18pm

A bit tainted? Oh no no no, we won’t have that.

You, dear boy, are a Freudian. You have always been a Freudian. Always, absolutely, never ever.

Marvellous tan though. What have you been essen?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 10:40pm

Soren wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 9:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 8:24pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 8:33am:

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 10:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

Yadda, its good to see you starting to embrace your inner lunacy!

Just ask HB - he's the knave of nuttiness.

HB is nuttier than squirrel sh!t.

You really do have this thing about faeces, Soren. Very, very Freudian... ::)

Yes, very Freudian. All these references to Faeces, Soren. Do you play with it? ::)

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Soren on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 10:19am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 10:40pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 9:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 8:24pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 8:33am:

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 10:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

Yadda, its good to see you starting to embrace your inner lunacy!

Just ask HB - he's the knave of nuttiness.

HB is nuttier than squirrel sh!t.

You really do have this thing about faeces, Soren. Very, very Freudian... ::)

Yes, very Freudian. All these references to Faeces, Soren. Do you play with it? ::)

Well, I am playing with you - so, yes.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:59pm

Soren wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 10:19am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 10:40pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 9:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 8:24pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 8:33am:

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 10:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

Yadda, its good to see you starting to embrace your inner lunacy!

Just ask HB - he's the knave of nuttiness.

HB is nuttier than squirrel sh!t.

You really do have this thing about faeces, Soren. Very, very Freudian... ::)

Yes, very Freudian. All these references to Faeces, Soren. Do you play with it? ::)

Well, I am playing with you - so, yes.

You're making a fascinating case study, Soren. Absolutely fascinating. ::)

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 9:47am

Oklahoma: Muslim attacks Christian with knife, says Muslims need to “step up” beheadings
Nov 21, 2014 06:31 pm | Robert Spencer

Where did Stepney get the idea that “more Muslims need to step up to the plate” and behead people?

Was it at his local mosque? And what mosque does he go to? Does anyone know? Does anyone care? “Man arrested, accused of slashing man after heated religious conversation,” by Dave Detling, KOCO.com, November 18, 2014

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We don't understand what is inspiring these ISIS cadres [who have 'appeared' in Syria and Iraq] ?

And we don't know where these ISIS cadres are 'coming from' ?

Such moral blindness !!

Why ???i
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ISIS is largely made up of moslem emigres who have come from [moslem communities resident in] Western nations.

ISIS is a creature of the West's own making.

Give the gift of freedoms to moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

Empower moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 9:55am

Islamic State jihadi tells Muslims in France to attack non-Muslims: “Kill them and spit in their faces and run over them with your cars”
Nov 21, 2014 05:26 pm | Robert Spencer

For a group that has nothing to do with Islam, they sure talk a lot of…Islam.

“French ISIS Fighters Urge Muslims at Home to Carry Out Terror Attacks in France,” MEMRI, November 19, 2014.

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THE PROPOSITION IS;
Our Western government(s) 'mouth' that they don't understand what is inspiring these ISIS cadres [who have 'appeared' in Syria and Iraq] ?

And we don't know from which 'community' [which is living among us!] these ISIS cadres are 'coming from' ?

What an absurd proposition !!i

Quote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 10:02am

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Err, well, ....one place these ISIS monsters are coming from, is Western Sydney!

[Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,].....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

Quote:

Italy: Muslim teenager viciously beaten by her family for being “too Western”
Nov 21, 2014 04:04 pm | Robert Spencer

European authorities are banking their nations’ futures on the supposition that the vast majority of Muslims on the continent are Westernized, or will become Westernized without difficulty.

Yet stories like these suggest that they have been foolhardy to stake so much on this unproven assumption.

“Deemed ‘too Western’ teenager beaten by family,” ANSA, November 21

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We don't understand what is inspiring these ISIS cadres [who have 'appeared' in Syria and Iraq] ?

And we don't know where these ISIS cadres are 'coming from' ?

What absurd propositions !!i
Quote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 10:10am

Israel: Muslims throw acid on car of imam who condemned synagogue jihad murders
Nov 21, 2014 08:52 am | Robert Spencer

Here is yet another illustration of why we don’t see more sincere Muslim reformers.

Those who buck the accepted line are all too often targeted for violence or, at very least, ostracized and vilified.

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 12:21pm

Actually, ISIL is the creature of Saddam's old Republican Guard.

When the US sacked all the Ba'athists in the Iraqi army and government, guess where they all went.

Who to blame? Uncle or Islam? Islam or Uncle?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Sprintcyclist on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 1:12pm

From islam

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by gandalf on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 2:26pm

ISIS ran through north-western Iraq so easily because the sunni tribal leaders adopted a "the enemy of my enemy..." approach. For them the real enemy is the authoritarian and exclusionary shiite regime in Baghdad.

As usual, religion is merely a symptom of the problem, not a cause. As soon as Baghdad starts negotiating more democratic participation for the sunnis, the islamists will be out on their ear - just like their predecessor, Al Qaeda in Iraq was turfed out by the sunnis as soon as the Americans (and their client in Baghdad) started addressing their legitimate greivances.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 3:41pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 1:12pm:

From islam

Good point, Sprint.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:13am

Canada jihad murderer: “There can’t be world peace until there’s only Muslims”
Nov 22, 2014 09:07 pm | Robert Spencer

“He was always trying to convert me, (saying) ‘You should read the Qur’an, bro,’ ” Banek said.”

Yet according to mainstream analysts, Zehaf-Bibeau completely misunderstood the message of the Qur’an, and somehow got the crazy idea that it had something to do with warfare against unbelievers.

The cognitive dissonance grows by the second.

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Quote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:18am

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Err, well, ....Western Sydney is one place these ISIS monsters are coming from !

Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,.....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

Quote:

Director of US-funded UN school calls synagogue jihad murders “wonderful”
Nov 22, 2014 04:28 pm | Robert Spencer

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But the opinion of this person, has got nothing to do with ISLAM. :PiQuote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:22am

Jordanian MPs hold moment of silence for synagogue jihad murderers
Nov 22, 2014 04:05 pm | Robert Spencer

Modern, moderate Jordan: still a hotbed of those who cheer when the people the Qur’an describes [Jews] as the worst enemies of the Muslims (cf. 5:82) are murdered.

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But the opinion of Jordanian MPs, has got nothing to do with ISLAM. :PiQuote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by The Outrage Bus on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:25am

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:25am

Pakistani Muslim leader: Only “culture of jihad” can solve society’s problems
Nov 22, 2014 03:50 pm | Robert Spencer

Munawwar Hassan wants jihad, not democracy.

Where did he get the crazy idea that democracy and Islam were incompatible?

Has he been listening to the rantings of greasy Islamophobes?

“Jihad should replace democracy to overcome challenges: Munawar Hasan,” The News International, November 22, 2014

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Quote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:27am

Australia: Islamic State claims responsibility for Muslim’s knife attack on cops
Nov 22, 2014 03:37 pm | Robert Spencer

The claim to have reconstituted the caliphate clearly resonates with many Muslims worldwide; it is the principal reason why we see so many Muslims from Western countries going to Syria and Iraq to join the Islamic State.

Thus there is nothing implausible about this claim of responsibility.

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Quote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:31am

Kenya: Muslims murder 28 non-Muslims who couldn’t recite Qur’an verses
Nov 22, 2014 09:42 am | Robert Spencer

Meanwhile, Barack Obama and John Kerry and David Cameron and the rest assure us that this kind of thing has nothing to do with Islam.

We are ruled by fantasists and liars.

“‘One by One They Were Shot in the Head’:

Islamist Hijackers Use a Simple Test to Find — and Kill — Non-Muslims,”

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Why, did these Somali moslems want to identify the non-moslems on the bus again ?????? :P

Quote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:33am

Ex-FSA fighter: Islamic State “magnet that attracts large numbers of Muslims”
Nov 23, 2014 07:43 pm | Robert Spencer

“We have a Free Syrian Army and a moderate opposition that we have steadily been working with that we have vetted.” — Barack Obama, September 2014

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ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:36am

Muslim MP: 2,000 Muslims from UK fighting for Islamic State
Nov 23, 2014 07:19 pm | Robert Spencer

The concept of the caliphate is what gives the Islamic State its appeal among young Muslims in the West,

.....but Western authorities cannot acknowledge that, for it would suggest that the Islamic State has something to do with Islam.

And so they lurch about in the darkness looking for alternate explanations.

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ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by gandalf on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:39am

Sorry Y I didn't quite catch that. Would you mind repeating it?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:39am

UK: Muslims laugh in court as they’re accused of beheading plot
Nov 23, 2014 06:33 pm | Robert Spencer

Why shouldn’t they laugh?

As far as they’re concerned, they were attempting to do an act that was pleasing to Allah, and the British court proceedings are just an Infidel charade.

“Terror Suspects Laugh in Court as they are Accused of Planning ‘Poppy Day Beheading,'” by Nick Hallett, Breitbart, November 21, 2014

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ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by gandalf on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:40am

thanks

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:48am

Denmark: Muslim refugees persecute Christian refugees
Nov 23, 2014 05:42 pm | Robert Spencer

“Christian asylum seekers are repeatedly exposed to everything from harassment to threats and physical abuse by other refugees in the asylum centers, simply because they have converted from Islam to Christianity.”

Where could they have gotten the idea to do that?

Muhammad said: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57).

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But this intolerance and persecution [of non-moslems] BY MOSLEM REFUGEES in Denmark, has got nothing at all to do with what ISLAM teaches. :P

Ask gandalf, here on OzPol.

gandalf will confirm ~~100 x~~ 10,000 x that ISLAM teaches and encourages tolerance and social harmony. :P

"ISLAM rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."
- The Muslim Council of Britaini
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ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by SpecialShirtFront on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:50am

Yadda, could you explain that a bit more? If you keep repeating it, you will eventually bludgeon gandy into submission. He will see the error of his infidel ways.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:52am

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:50am:

Yadda, could you explain that a bit more? If you keep repeating it, you will eventually bludgeon gandy into submission.

He will see the error of his infidel ways.

When hell freezes over.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:52am

Yadda wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:39am:

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[quote]

ISIS is largely made up of moslem emigres who have come from [moslem communities resident in] Western nations.

ISIS is a creature of the West's own making.

Give the gift of freedoms to moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

Empower moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

[/quote]

What’s the source of your second quote, Y?

What’s the evidence that ISIL is comprised mainly of Western emigrees?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:55am

Islamists: "Destruction is a Matter of Time"
by Mitchell Bard • November 25, 2014

"If the Jews left Palestine to us, would we start loving them?

Of course not.

The Jews are infidels not because I say so but because Allah does...

They aren't our enemies because they occupy Palestine; they would be our enemies even if they had not occupied anything." — Muhammad Hussein Ya'qub, Egyptian cleric.

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"ISLAM rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."
- The Muslim Council of Britaini
Quote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:56am

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:50am:

Yadda, could you explain that a bit more? If you keep repeating it, you will eventually bludgeon gandy into submission. He will see the error of his infidel ways.

I know. Gandy’s already thanking Y for his contributions. It won’t be long until Gandy renounces Islam and joins the struggle.

All you have to do is blame Islam, G. It’s that easy.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:57am

Karnal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:52am:

Yadda wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:39am:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

What’s the source of your second quote, Y?

What’s the evidence that ISIL is comprised mainly of Western emigrees?

[/quote]

I said so.

Always, never ever.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:59am

Yadda wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:55am:

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"ISLAM rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."
- The Muslim Council of Britaini[quote]

ISIS is largely made up of moslem emigres who have come from [moslem communities resident in] Western nations.

ISIS is a creature of the West's own making.

Give the gift of freedoms to moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

Empower moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

[/quote]

If you want to convert G, Y, you’ll need to provide a citation for that quote of yours. It looks suspiciously like a quote from Y to me.

How do you know ISIL is made up largely of Western emigrees?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:00pm

UK Law Society apologizes and withdraws Sharia guidelines
Nov 24, 2014 10:16 pm | Robert Spencer

“The Law Society has withdrawn controversial guidelines for solicitors on how to compile ‘Sharia compliant’ wills amid complaints that they encouraged discrimination against women and non-Muslims.”

There is no doubt that when the Law Society adopted these guidelines, it had no idea that Sharia discriminated against women and non-Muslims;

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They had no idea ?

Really ?

Why would they have held such a naive view - of the deleterious implications, 'in law', of Sharia law, upon women and those who are not moslems ?

Is it because they had been 'guided' in their opinions about Sharia law, by what moslems had told them ?

Honest moslems, do not lie!!!!!! :Pi

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ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:04pm

Saudi Arabia’s plush rehab facility for jihadists a spectacular failure
Nov 24, 2014 01:52 pm | Robert Spencer

“When Saudi police arrested 88 suspected Al-Qaeda operatives in September, they discovered that 59 of them had been through reform programs and were then released.”

And yet the British are staking their nation’s future on a similar program, which will only ensure that Britain’s future will feature blood in the streets.

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Quote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:05pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:57am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:52am:

Yadda wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:39am:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

What’s the source of your second quote, Y?

What’s the evidence that ISIL is comprised mainly of Western emigrees?

I said so.

Always, never ever.

[/quote]

I see. So you disagree with Middle Eastern correspondents like Robert Fisk and Paul Mcgeough, do you?

What intelligence are you basing your claim.on?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:08pm

UK: 40 jihad terrorist plots foiled since July 7, 2005 jihad mass murders
Nov 24, 2014 01:33 pm | Robert Spencer

Oddly enough, Theresa May’s policy of wholesale appeasement to Islamic supremacists doesn’t seem to be working.

She [Theresa May] and David Cameron have ruthlessly persecuted foes of jihad terror within Britain, and banned those from outside from entering.

Yet they still get jihad — more and more of it.

The ingratitude!

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"UK: 40 jihad terrorist plots foiled since July 7, 2005 jihad mass murders"

Surely not!!!!! :P

"ISLAM rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."
- The Muslim Council of Britaini

Quote:

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:10pm

Thanks.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:17pm

Quote:

Islamic State to Christians: Convert to Islam, pay jizya or be killed
Nov 23, 2014 06:27 am | Robert Spencer

“Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” (9:29)

ITEM ABOVE;
The vast majority of these ISIS monsters, were lately, the citizens of nations like Australia.

AND CONSIDER;
Many of these ISIS monsters were refugees, or the children of refugees. [i.e. they were persons [or were, the children of persons] who sought out a sanctuary, FOR THEMSELVES, in nations like Australia!]

And now, these persons have chosen to leave the [lawful] influences over them, that are present, in a nation like Australia.

They have chosen to once again, to return, to being moslems, living in a moslem majority land.

Q.
And their 'choice' [once they have returned to that 'environment'] is what ?

A.
Now, having returned to a moslem majority land, their choice is to seek [in every way!] to persecute those who are [politically 'different', and] weaker than themselves.

These moslems monsters [who have returned to moslem majority land], have reverted to 'type'.

They have reverted to, 'practising moslem'.

They have reverted to, being robbers, rapists, murderers, oppressors - of those who are [politically 'different', and] weaker than themselves.

AND CONSIDER;
The vast majority of these ISIS monsters, are moslems who were lately, living in the suburbs of cities like Sydney and Melbourne [and cities in many other Western nations].

THE LESSON #1;
Even within a political [non-ISLAMIC] 'environment' like Australia;
1/ you can't take ISLAM out of the moslem,
AND,
2/ you can't take the moslem out of ISLAM.

Moslem = = ISLAM

ISLAM = = moslem.

Moslem = = a monstrous human being.

THE LESSON #2;
The laws of a nation like Australia are able to [somewhat] 'constrain' the intent of 'the moslem'.

But the laws and the 'environment' of a nation like Australia will never change [i.e. reform] who 'the moslem' is.

e.g.
Even within a nation like Australia 'the moslem', can be seen [in 'an unguarded moment'] to be 'exciting' [in moslem children] a murderous hatred of Australians, and of [all] persons who do not believe, as moslems believe.

as per being shown, here.....
Muslims brainwash children in Australia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

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Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

ISLAM......

ISLAMIC LAW
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

THE KORAN
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

THE 'PROPHET' OF ISLAM
"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

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ISLAM is a 'factory' which produces human monsters [...who are taught that they must obey the criminal dictates of ISLAM].

Moslem = = a monster.

A moslem is a person whose psyche has become 'enthralled' by the criminal 'ideals' which are encapsulated within ISLAM.

Moslem = = a follower of ISLAM.

THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:21pm

Quote:

Islamic State training children to be jihad killers
Nov 24, 2014 09:30 pm | Robert Spencer

“We’re going to kill you, O kuffar. Insha’allah we’ll slaughter you.”

Kuffar = Infidels.

Insha’allah = Allah willing.

Not that this has anything to do with Islam.

“Children of the Jihad: ISIS Behead Kurdish Children; Train Kazakh Children to Fight,” by Donna Rachel Edmunds, Breitbart, November 24, 2014

Monstrous human beings.

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

IMAGE.....
TEACHING 'THE CHILDREN OF THE CALIPHATE', HOW TO BE GOOD MOSLEMS....

IMAGE.....
TEACHING 'THE CHILDREN OF THE CALIPHATE', HOW TO BE GOOD MOSLEMS....
WARNING, DO NOT LOOK!

http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/201408260406105.jpeg

IMAGE.....
WARNING, DO NOT LOOK!
http://images.catholic.org/media/2014/07/25/14063030871961_700.jpg
https://creepingsharia.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/bttzqduiiaa-kmz1.jpg
http://images.catholic.org/media/2014/08/08/14075172271961_700.jpg

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by SpecialShirtFront on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:27pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:56am:

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:50am:

Yadda, could you explain that a bit more? If you keep repeating it, you will eventually bludgeon gandy into submission. He will see the error of his infidel ways.

I know. Gandy’s already thanking Y for his contributions. It won’t be long until Gandy renounces Islam and joins the struggle.

All you have to do is blame Islam, G. It’s that easy.

Ah, don't blame islam, Y. That's racist. It's them varmint musselmen that take it seriously. They're the pests, and be needin' an exterminator.

Karnal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:05pm:

What intelligence are you basing your claim.on?

His own, Karnal. Forgiven.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bN62MmT-lw

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:27pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:17pm:

ISLAM is a 'factory' which produces human monsters [...who are taught that they must obey the criminal dictates of ISLAM].

Moslem = = a monster.

A moslem is a person whose psyche has become 'enthralled' by the criminal 'ideals' which are encapsulated within ISLAM.

Moslem = = a follower of ISLAM.

THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/

All moslems are, moslems.

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Every moslem is a follower of ISLAM, who is enthralled by the reputed deeds of Mohammed, and who has respect for the laws and tenets of his MOSLEM nation.

If he did NOT, then that person would NOT be a moslem.

THE 'UNBELIEVABLE' 'SLANDER' AND THE 'MISREPRESENTATION' OF ISLAM [and of 'the moslem'] :P - WHICH 'EMANATES' FROM THE INERRANT KORAN.....

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

THE 'UNBELIEVABLE' 'SLANDER' AND THE 'MISREPRESENTATION' OF ISLAM [and of 'the moslem'] - WHICH 'EMANATES' FROM THE LIPS OF ISLAMIC LEADERS....

Quote:

Use children as troops, says cleric
January 18, 2007
SYDNEY'S most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs and urging children to die for Allah.
Firebrand Sheik Feiz Mohammed, head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool [Australia], delivered the hateful rants on a collection of DVDs called the Death Series being sold in Australia and overseas.
.........Sheik Feiz says in the video.
"We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
An Australian citizen born in Sydney who has spent the past year living in Lebanon, Sheik Feiz was exposed this week in a British documentary Undercover Mosque.
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).

"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."

......Sheik Feiz - who just two weeks ago said he felt like an "alien" in his own country - leads about 4000 followers through his Global Islamic Youth Centre in Sydney's southwest.
He also accused Australian authorities of being over-zealous in their approach to clerics like him.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by gandalf on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:36pm

http://www.loonwatch.com/2014/08/is-isis-beheading-children-in-iraq/

re Yadda's last image (warning: graphic)

Quote:

Fueling the speculation has been websites, like Catholic Online, that purport to have pictures of children beheaded by ISIS. (The images on the site are extremely graphic and disturbing. I’d advise not looking at them.) Catholic Online, which is not officially connected to the Catholic Church, has only one picture that could be of a beheaded child. But there is no way to know whether it is real or whether it occurred in Iraq. There is no source or context for the photos and the story is credited to “News Consortium.”

One of the pictures that Catholic Online includes — and that has become ubiquitous on social media — shows a baby with three rifles pointed at his head (see image above). While the image is outrageous, it was not a photo taken of ISIS in northern Iraq.

The photo originally appeared online April 11, 2014 on the Facebook page of a person from Yemen. Numerous people on that page attest that the clothes the child is wearing are obviously Yemeni. A few days later, though, the image started popping up on pro-Syrian Army websites claiming that it was an Armenian child who was taken by Syrian rebels. Whatever the original context for the photo, we know based on the date alone that it was not recently taken in Mosul or northern Iraq.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:51pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:36pm:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2014/08/is-isis-beheading-children-in-iraq/

re Yadda's last image (warning: graphic)

Quote:

Fueling the speculation has been websites, like Catholic Online, that purport to have pictures of children beheaded by ISIS. (The images on the site are extremely graphic and disturbing. I’d advise not looking at them.) Catholic Online, which is not officially connected to the Catholic Church, has only one picture that could be of a beheaded child. But there is no way to know whether it is real or whether it occurred in Iraq. There is no source or context for the photos and the story is credited to “News Consortium.”

One of the pictures that Catholic Online includes — and that has become ubiquitous on social media — shows a baby with three rifles pointed at his head (see image above). While the image is outrageous, it was not a photo taken of ISIS in northern Iraq.

The photo originally appeared online April 11, 2014 on the Facebook page of a person from Yemen. Numerous people on that page attest that the clothes the child is wearing are obviously Yemeni. A few days later, though, the image started popping up on pro-Syrian Army websites claiming that it was an Armenian child who was taken by Syrian rebels. Whatever the original context for the photo, we know based on the date alone that it was not recently taken in Mosul or northern Iraq.

Yeah,

The Australian, ABC, 4 []'s should despatch an investigative reporting team to Racca, Syria, so that we can have a verified account of what those ISIS cadres are really doing.

I'd like to see a person like Zoe Daniels despatched on this assignment. :P

In recent years Zoe Daniels has always been shown to have had a soft spot, for the moslems [who are always being portrayed, as being persecuted], in her reports.

I'm sure Zoe will get along, just fine, with ISIS.

They wouldn't hurt a hair on her head! .....oh no!

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by gandalf on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 1:22pm

Yadda - serious question if I may:

If you saw an image being used to prosecute the case against islam and muslims that you either knew or had good reason to believe was fake, would you object to the use of such an image in this way?

Yes or no, if you could please.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 1:36pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 1:22pm:

gandalf,

If i knew that an image was fake, yes, i would object to its use, to criticise ISLAM and/or moslems.

I would see the use of such a fake image, as being 1/ wrong to do, and 2/ [eventually?] counter-productive.

Never old.

#9

IMAGE....

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by gandalf on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 3:12pm

Thank you Y. I appreciate the candid response.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Hot Breath on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 3:29pm

So, Yadda if you knew an image which portrayed Muslims in an unfavourable light had questionable veracity would you still use that image and claim it was real?

If an image which was questionable or shown to be false had been used by you (innocently) in one of your posts, would you apologise for it's use?

;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 4:30pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 1:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 1:22pm:

A very real image, Y.

Those are the real 10 Commandments, no?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 6:43pm

QUESTION;
Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?

ANSWER;
These ISIS 'monsters', day by day, year by year, have been a creation of the philosophy known as ISLAM.

e.g.

MEET A MOSLEM MONSTER....

IMAGE....

Aqsa Mahmood - the pretty moslem medical student, from the UK.

That young moslem woman chose to abandon her medical studies in the UK.

And chose to travel to Syria/Iraq, so that she could supervise the rape [by moslems men] of kidnapped Yazidi women.

'British' woman, Aqsa Mahmood - running ISIS brothels, allowing killers to rape kidnapped Yazidi women.

'British' woman, Aqsa Mahmood, "said she wanted to behead Christians with a “blunt knife”."

Quote:

Mirror Online-British female jihadis running ISIS brothels allowing killers to rape kidnapped Yazidi women

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-female-jihadis-running-isis-4198165

AND ANOTHER MOSLEM 'FEMME FATALE' [MONSTER]....

Salwa Al-Mutairi - has called for the legalizing sex slavery in Kuwait.
So as to protect moslem men, from sexual corruption [....this would be 'achieved', by allowing Kuwaiti moslem men to have non-moslem sex slaves]!

Quote:

Kuwait: "Female political activist" calls for legalizing sex slavery to protect men from "adultery or corruption"
.....We want our youth to be protected from adultery,” said Al-Mutairi, suggesting that these maids could be brought as prisoners of war in war-stricken nations like Chechnya to be sold on later to devout merchants.

This is not religiously forbidden,” she added

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/kuwait-female-political-activist-calls-for-legalizing-sex-slavery-to-protect-men-from-adultery-or-co

Quote:

"I hope that Kuwait will enact the law for...sex slaves"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/i-hope-that-kuwait-will-enact-the-law-forsex-slaves.html

Quote:

Egyptian imam: "When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/egyptian-imam-when-i-want-a-sex-slave-i-just-go-to-the-market-and-choose-the-woman-i-like-and-purcha.html

Quote:

Imam: having sex-slaves "may no longer be fashionable," but it's still legal in Islam

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/08/imam-having-sex-slaves-may-no-longer-be-fashionable-but-its-still-legal-in-islam.html

Quote:

UK: Imam misunderstands Islam, says it allows a Muslim man to have as many concubines as he wants

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/05/uk-imam-misunderstands-islam-says-it-allows-a-muslim-man-to-have-as-many-concubines-as-he-wants.html

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These people [those who hold such views] are living among us, here in Australia, today.

They call themselves, moslems.

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by gandalf on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 8:53pm

|dev|null wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:

Or blatantly false rape statistics used as a shocking thread title...

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 8:56pm

No no, if Y knew they were fake,

1. It would be wrong to do, and

2. Counter-productive.

Google: taqiyya

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Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 8:17am

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 8:53pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:

Or blatantly false rape statistics used as a shocking thread title...

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1416541277/24#24

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 8:32am

Karnal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 8:56pm:

No no, if Y knew they were fake,

1. It would be wrong to do, and

2. Counter-productive.

Google: taqiyya

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Yeah!

That Yadda, should stop slandering ISLAM and the moslem community [the followers of ISLAM]!

Dictionary;
slander = = the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person’s reputation.

A MOSLEM 'RAPE-FEST' IS OCCURRING IN EUROPE - WHY ?
HAS THIS EPIDEMIC OF THE MOSLEM RAPE, OF NON-MOSLEM WOMEN IN EUROPE, GOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM ?

http://muslimrapewave.wordpress.com/

Google;
bilal skaf, rape, uncovered women, no right to say no

Google,
"rape jihad"

Google,
Beslan 'jihad', murder and rape-fest, by 'terrorists'

Google,
Beslan 'jihad', babies knifed, school children raped

YT...
NORWEGIAN RAPE VICTIM;

Quote:

"He said, that he had the right to do exactly as he wanted to a woman."
"Why ?"
"Because that is how it was in his religion."

from...
10% of Norwegian Women Raped by Muslim Invaders, Half Before They were 18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppYXh6yyH9g

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IMAGE....

Aqsa Mahmood - the pretty moslem medical student, from the UK - who chose to travel to Syria/Iraq, so that she could supervise the rape of kidnapped Yazidi women [by moslems men].

Quote:

Mirror Online-British female jihadis running ISIS brothels allowing killers to rape kidnapped Yazidi women

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-female-jihadis-running-isis-4198165

Salwa Al-Mutairi - has called for the legalizing sex slavery in Kuwait.
So as to protect moslem men, from sexual corruption [....this would be 'achieved', by allowing Kuwaiti moslem men to have non-moslem sex slaves]!

Quote:

Kuwait: "Female political activist" calls for legalizing sex slavery to protect men from "adultery or corruption"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/kuwait-female-political-activist-calls-for-legalizing-sex-slavery-to-protect-men-from-adultery-or-co

Quote:

"I hope that Kuwait will enact the law for...sex slaves"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/i-hope-that-kuwait-will-enact-the-law-forsex-slaves.html

Quote:

Egyptian imam: "When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/egyptian-imam-when-i-want-a-sex-slave-i-just-go-to-the-market-and-choose-the-woman-i-like-and-purcha.html

Quote:

Imam: having sex-slaves "may no longer be fashionable," but it's still legal in Islam

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/08/imam-having-sex-slaves-may-no-longer-be-fashionable-but-its-still-legal-in-islam.html

Quote:

UK: Imam misunderstands Islam, says it allows a Muslim man to have as many concubines as he wants

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/05/uk-imam-misunderstands-islam-says-it-allows-a-muslim-man-to-have-as-many-concubines-as-he-wants.html

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Hot Breath on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 3:30pm

|dev|null wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:

Bump. You going to answer the questions Yadda? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 9:47am

QUESTION;
Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?

ANSWER;
These ISIS 'monsters', day by day, year by year, have been and are, a creation of the philosophy known as ISLAM [and, of the moslem community].i
AS PER;

Quote:

2014-12-02
Nine-year-old suspected child bride leaves Australia to be married, Immigrant Women's Health Service says

A nine-year-old Sydney girl has allegedly left the country to be married overseas, just one of a dozen cases since June, a women's health service says.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-02/nine-year-old-child-bride-leaves-australia-to-be-married/5932622

"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah [er, Mohammed] a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah."
Koran 33.021

Mohammed married 6 yr old Aisha, and consummated the marriage when she was 9 yrs old.

And Mohammed's recorded behaviour is being held up by the moslem community, to every moslem as the exact behaviour which is appropriate for 'the moslem', today.

NOTWITHSTANDING ALL OF THE LIES AND THE PUBLICLY DECLARED DENIALS OF THE FILTHY LYING MOSLEM;

Every moslem community continues to teach 'the moslem' ['in house'] that choosing to marry a prepubescent girl is lawful and permitted,
.....BECAUSE MOHAMMED DID IT.

http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith.php?keyword=aisha+nine+years+old&translator=1&search=1&book=&start=0&records_display=10&search_word=all

Quote:

The words "aisha nine years old" appear in 4 hadith(s) in Bukhari translation.
(1) Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. (Book #58, Hadith #236)

(2) Narrated 'aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Book #62, Hadith #64)

(3) Narrated 'aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)' (Book #62, Hadith #65)

(4) Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). (Book #62, Hadith #88)

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

[quote]

AND CONSIDER;
The vast majority of these ISIS monsters, are moslems who were lately, living in the suburbs of cities like Sydney and Melbourne [and cities in many other Western nations].

THE LESSON #1;
Even within a political [non-ISLAMIC] 'environment' like Australia;
1/ you can't take ISLAM out of the moslem,
AND,
2/ you can't take the moslem out of ISLAM.

Moslem = = ISLAM

ISLAM = = moslem.

Moslem = = a monstrous human being.

THE LESSON #2;
The laws of a nation like Australia are able to [somewhat] 'constrain' the intent of 'the moslem'.

But the laws and the 'environment' of a nation like Australia will never change [i.e. reform] who 'the moslem' is.

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Hot Breath on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 12:25pm

|dev|null wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 3:30pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:

Bump. You going to answer the questions Yadda? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

2nd bump. Why are you avoiding the questions Yadda? I thought you believed you were a man of your word? Your word appears remarkably absent from answering these questions! ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 12:37pm

|dev|null wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 12:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 3:30pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:

Bump. You going to answer the questions Yadda? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

Hot_Breath,

1/ Your lack of ability, in comprehending the meaning of words, is your own failing.

2/ If you want to ask Q's, then you should ask Q's that have merit or relevance [.....if you want a reply].

gandalf said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1411000819/144#144

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by gandalf on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 12:45pm

Yadda wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 12:37pm:

gandalf said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1411000819/144#144

I did appreciate your candid response - which begs the question, why didn't you remove the bs claim in your thread title? Are you still standing by this claim - even after you all but conceded it was crap?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 1:21pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 12:45pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 12:37pm:

gandalf said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1411000819/144#144

10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim Immigrants
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1416541277/0#0

gandalf,

I was not the person who made that particular claim.

But i did present that particular claim here, on OzPol, for discussion/examination.

gandalf,

You said;

Quote:

Are you still standing by this claim - even after you all but conceded it was crap?

gandalf,

You are misrepresenting what i did say.

I in no way, said that; 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim Immigrants, was a crap claim.

This, is what i said;

Quote:

gandalf,

That statistic does seem incredible [un-believable] doesn't it !

Read the other contents of my post #24
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1416541277/24#24

p.s.
gandalf,

Do you have any reliable and verifiable evidence that the claim being made, that;

10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim Immigrants,

.....is actually false ???

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Quote:

Norway
See also: Immigration to Norway § Crime and Crime in Norway

The overall probability that a person living in Norway would be convicted for a felony (no: forbrytelse) was increased by about 0.5 percentage points for the immigrant compared to non-immigrant populations for felonies committed in the years 2001-2004. The incidence was especially high among immigrants from Kosovo, Morocco, Somalia, Iraq, Iran and Chile, and reached more than 2% in all these groups. In comparison, the incidence in the non-immigrant population was about 0.7%.[20]

Immigrants are also overrepresented in sexual crime statistics. In a news report in 2010, a spokesperson for the Oslo Police Department stated that every case of assault rapes in Oslo in the years 2007, 2008 and 2009 was committed by a non-Western immigrant.[21] This picture has later been nuanced, as only perpetrators in the solved cases were counted, and 4 of the victims in the 16 unsolved cases described the perpetrator as being of Norwegian ethnicity.[22]

The report shows that, of 131 individuals charged with the 152 rapes in which the perpetrator could be identified, 45.8% were of African, Middle Eastern or Asian origin while 54.2% were of Norwegian, other European or American origin. In the cases of "assault rape", i.e. rape aggravated by physical violence, a category that included 6 of the 152 cases and 5 of the 131 identified individuals, the 5 identified individuals were of African, Middle Eastern or Asian origin. In the cases of assault rape where the individual responsible was not identified and the police relied on the description provided by the victim, "8 of the perpetrators were African / dark-skinned appearance, 4 were Western / light / Nordic and 4 had an Asian appearance".[23]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime

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Raped in Oslo

From the desk of Fjordman on Wed, 2006-12-13 08:23

The number of rapes in the Norwegian capital Oslo is six times as high as in New York City. I’ve written about the issue of rape and Muslim immigration so many times that I am, quite frankly, a bit tired of the subject. But as we all know, problems don’t disappear just because you are tired of talking about them, so here goes.

There has been an explosive increase in the number of rape charges in the city of Oslo, but both the media and the authorities consistently refuse to tell us why.

They did do so, however, in 2001, when two out of Norway's three largest newspapers, Aftenposten and Dagbladet, reported that most of these rape charges involve an immigrant perp, which again mostly means Muslims.

Both newspapers have since then conveniently “forgotten” about this, and have never connected the issue to Muslim immigration although the number of rape charges has continued to rise to historic levels. They are thus at best guilty of extreme incompetence, since their former articles about this issue are still available online.

Norway’s Minister of Justice from 2001 to 2005, Odd Einar Dørum, mentioned the problem in 2001 but has later gone quiet about the issue. The reported number of rapes in Oslo is now six – 6! – times as high per capita as in New York City, yet the media keeps warning against Islamophobia......

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1754

Google;
muslim rape wave, in europe

Google;
muslim rape war, against europe

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Hot Breath on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 1:29pm

Yadda wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 12:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 12:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 3:30pm:

|dev|null wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:

Bump. You going to answer the questions Yadda? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

Yadda, you're not answering the questions? Why are you afraid to answer the questions? I've never believed you were a coward! ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by gandalf on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 2:08pm

Yadda wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 1:21pm:

Do you have any reliable and verifiable evidence that the claim being made, that;

10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim Immigrants,

.....is actually false ???

Yes Yadda, I detailed it all in the thread in question - how the 10% was dishonestly arrived by combining two separate and completely unrelated sets of data. I'm not going to repeat myself here.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 7:07am

Denmark paid unemployment benefits to 28 Muslims waging jihad for Islamic State
Nov 28, 2014 11:57 am | Robert Spencer

Danish taxpayer dollars at work.

British jihadist Anjem Choudary said in February 2013: “We are on Jihad Seekers Allowance, We take the Jizya (protection money paid to Muslims by non-Muslims) which is ours anyway.

The normal situation is to take money from the Kafir (non-Muslim), isn’t it?

So this is normal situation......

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 7:10am

UK officials can’t stop battle-hardened jihadis from returning from Islamic State
Nov 28, 2014 11:32 am | Robert Spencer

Foes of jihad terror — Pamela Geller and I [Robert Spencer] — are not allowed to enter Britain.

But the British authorities cannot figure out how to bar jihad terrorists from returning from the Islamic State.

More absurdity as Britain gallops toward ruin: “Battle-Hardened Terrorists Will Return to The UK, And There is Nothing we Can do......

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The political elite in the UK, have to publicly admit that they are impotent to protect the UK from 'the moslem' [the follower of ISLAM] !!!!

Why is that ?

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 7:23am

Belgium: Sunni Muslim tried for deadly arson attack on Shia mosque
Nov 28, 2014 11:09 am | Robert Spencer

The Sunni-Shi’ite jihad comes to Belgium.

We in the West will be seeing a great deal more of this.

“Sunni tried for deadly arson attack on Belgian Shiite mosque,” AFP, November 27, 2014......

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Surely the defendant can simply insist in court, that;

"ISLAM rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."
- The Muslim Council of Britain

Because all Europeans know, that ISLAM is a peaceful faith.          :P

Especially the political leaders of Europe !!!

“There is not a problem with Islam.    For those of us who have studied it, there is no doubt about its true and peaceful nature,”
   - former British PM Tony Blairi+++

Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 7:42am

Australia: Muslims refuse to stand for judge, say Islam is their only authority
Nov 28, 2014 10:40 am | Robert Spencer

One said that they are not “at the behest of any authority other than Islam.”

We have seen this again and again, all over the West, as it is a mainstream Islamic belief that

Muslims do not owe allegiance to any Infidel authorities. ......

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And yet many ~~people~~ citizens of modern Australia today, will insist that moslems who live here, in Australia, are 'Australians'.

THEY ARE NOT, Australians!!!

'The moslem' is NOT an Australian!!!

'The moslem', is a moslem.

His allegiance [notwithstanding his lying denials], is to ISLAM, EXCLUSIVELY!!!!

AS IS WITNESSED, IN THESE ASSERTIONS [by 'the moslem']....

Quote:

"[a respected moslem community spokesman has] called on Australian Muslims to spurn secular democracy and Western notions of moderate Islam...
...[moslems in Australia were told] that democracy is "haram" (forbidden) for Muslims, whose political engagement should be be based purely on Islamic law.
"We must adhere to Islam and Islam alone," Mr Hanif [said]"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/australia-members-of-hizb-ut-tahrir-say-country-is-god-forsaken-and-that-muslims-must-shun-secular-a.html

'The moslem' - spits - upon Australia, and upon all Australians!!!

WATCH THE 'AUSTRALIAN' MOSLEM SPITTING HIS HATRED OF AUSTRALIA, AND AUSTRALIANS.....

RIGHT HERE....

Quote:

Even within a nation like Australia 'the moslem', can be seen [in 'an unguarded moment'] to be 'exciting' [in moslem children] a murderous hatred of Australians, and of [all] persons who do not believe, as moslems believe.

as per being shown, here.....
Muslims brainwash children in Australia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 8:02am

Austria: Police raid mosques, arrest 13 for jihad recruitment
Nov 28, 2014 10:12 am | Robert Spencer

Recruiting for the Islamic State was going on in mosques?

One might almost get the idea that the Islamic State had something to do with Islam.

But of course, that would be “Islamophobic.” “Austrian police arrested 13 men targeting suspected jihad recruiters,” AFP, November 28, 2014......

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Notwithstanding the lying denials of 'the mainstream moslem' [living in nations like Australia], 'the moslem' [living in nations like Australia] continues to organise and recruit [in nations like Australia] for ISIS.

QUESTION;
And what are our political leaders doing, about this '5th column' which live among us [in nations like Australia], and who are trying to destroy our nation and societal institutions from within ????

ANSWER;
You can see our cowardly political leaders posturing, on occasions like Anzac Day.
But our cowardly and self-serving political leaders, will not - themselves - do a single practical thing to defend our nation.
Let alone asking them to make any personal sacrifice, like risking the spilling of their own blood, to defend our nation!

Our political leaders have the same 'worth', as 'the moslem', imo.

Yadda said.....

Quote:

Our pollies ARE embarrassing sometimes.

And in the sincerity stakes.....
.....stand your average Western pollie, next to any moslem - and ya can't see even a shard of daylight between em,
.....in my experience.

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 8:22am

UK: Muslim rape gang member says raping girls a “religious requirement”
Nov 29, 2014 08:38 am | Robert Spencer

Where did he get this idea?

From the Qur’an. “The believers must (eventually) win through, those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess,......

Google

But, but, but 'the mainstream moslem' [living in nations like Australia], keep telling us that ISLAM rejects violence [against women who are not moslem women], and that ISLAM is a peaceful faith!!

"ISLAM rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."
- The Muslim Council of Britain

So why then, do so many mainstream moslems [who are living in nations like Australia and the UK] believe that Jihad operations [including violence [rape!] against women who are not moslem women] comes from the authority of ISLAM, and is a lawful part of the 'expression' of his faith ?i+++

Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 9:02am

On Facebook, Muslim cleric preaches killing of women and children

November 30, 2014 4:08 pm

Omar Bakri Muhammad.“In a section titled ‘killing women and children’ he said this was usually not permissible,

but stated: ‘Having said this, one must distinguish between killing women and children and the Mujahideen fighting the Kuffar [non-believers] enemies wherever they find them, whether that be in a school or hospital or elsewhere.’

He also gave religious authority to the killing of Muslims.

He said in a video on Facebook: ‘Anybody who allies with a taghoot regime [non-Muslims] whether Sunni or Shi’i has no sanctity and his blood is permissible.’

In another posting, he declared that Jews and Christians were ‘enemies’, adding: ‘That animosity is exposed, clear, explicit, there is no doubt about it.'”

It would be refreshing if one of the Muslim spokesmen in the West who have written articles recently explaining that the Islamic State was not Islamic because its jihadis killed women and children would take up Bakri’s argument and explaining why it is wrong on Islamic grounds.

But this probably will not happen......

Google

SURELY NOT! :P

"ISLAM rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."
- The Muslim Council of Britain

Why do so many mainstream moslems [who are living in nations like Australia and the UK] ~~believe~~ tell us that Jihad operations against the infidel [e.g. which is being undertaken by ISIS], is NOT a lawful part of the 'expression' of his faith ?

Don't these moslems read the Holy Koran ???

Getting past the blatant deceit of 'the moslem' who lives among us, getting past the blatant lying of 'the moslem' who lives among us;

QUESTION;
Why does 'the moslem' hate us [i.e. we who are not moslems] ?

Is it because we have harmed 'the moslem', beforehand ?

ANSWER;
'The moslem' - MUST - hate us, because ISLAM establishes a never-ending and lawful - RELIGIOUS HATRED - for all non-moslems which is established and is given lawful authority, within the inerrant Koran] !

"....there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever...."

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 9:12am

Minnesota imam refuses to denounce the Islamic State
Nov 30, 2014 05:32 am | Robert Spencer

It’s “complicated.”

Beheading hostages, crucifying enemies, terrorizing Christians, selling Yazidi and Christian women as sex slaves — it’s “confusing.”

“Minnesota imam looks at ‘caliphate’ through Islamic lens,” by Ibrahim Hirsi, MinnPost, November 28, 2014......

Google

SURELY NOT! :P

Doesn't this 'mainstream' moslem, this Minnesota imam [i.e. a leader in his community!], know, that 'ISLAM is peace' ???

And that he MUST denounce ISIS, to remain a real moslem ???? :P

"ISLAM rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."
- The Muslim Council of Britaini

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:07pm

Yadda, out of a matter of interest, what was your opinion of Ian Paisley as a Preacher and a promoter of violence and hatred and intolerance?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:17pm

Sweden: School leader urges parents to follow children to school after attacks in Muslim area
Dec 01, 2014 02:44 pm | Nicolai Sennels

Graffiti on street in Muslim area in Sweden: “Pig devils” (misspelled…)

Islam teaches children to hate non-Muslims so much that robbing, raping, beating them up and killing them becomes acceptable to many Muslims.

Together with the widespread use of violence in Muslim families, the Qur’an is a perfect psychological tool to brainwash innocents into becoming monsters.......

Google

As well as the Koran, moslem adults too, are clearly useful 'tools', in teaching moslem children, the hatred of their host society [and its non-moslem inhabitants] that has in many cases given 'the moslem' nurture and sanctuary.....

Quote:

i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:29pm

Europe: Generation Jihad is here!
Dec 01, 2014 02:26 pm | Nicolai Sennels

Fresh surveys show that a new generation, Generation Jihad, is part of European reality today.

80 percent of young Turks in Holland see “nothing wrong” with jihad against non-Muslims.

27 percent of 18-24 year-old Frenchmen, and 14 percent of under-25 year-old British, presumably including the vast majority of these countries’ young Muslims,

sympathise with the Islamic militant group ISIS........

Google

SURELY NOT! :P

Don't the young moslems of Europe, know, that 'ISLAM is peace' ???

Isn't that what the young moslems of Europe, have been taught, ALL OF THEIR YOUNG LIVES, BY THEIR OWN [MOSLEM] COMMUNITY, AND BY ITS LEADERS ?

And, that the young moslems of Europe, know, that they MUST denounce ISIS, to remain a real moslem ???? :P

"ISLAM rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."
- The Muslim Council of Britain

????????????

Quote:

i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:32pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:07pm:

Yadda, out of a matter of interest, what was your opinion of Ian Paisley as a Preacher and a promoter of violence and hatred and intolerance?

I'll look him up on wiki, and report back to you, ...maybe.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:51pm

Copenhagen’s chief of police: Documenting Muslim violence causes Muslim violence
Dec 01, 2014 02:13 pm | Nicolai Sennels

This is exactly the logic that we all suspected.....the idea that presenting facts is the cause of Muslim attacks on non-Muslims.

Not the Quran’s and the Hadiths’ countless orders to Muslims to hate, rob, rape, persecute, harm and kill non-Muslims, nor the hate-preaching imams in the increasing numbers of mosques telling their followers every Friday that exactly these books are the absolute truth and must be followed to the letter.......

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This is exactly what the moslem community have been warning non-moslem community leaders in the West about, for decades!!!!! :P

i.e.
"ISLAM is peace!

ISLAM does not cause moslems to become violent!

It is the scrutiny [of moslems] and criticism of ISLAM by non-moslems, which causes 'the moslem' to become violent!"

Surely, we all know this already!

!!!!!!!!!!

IMAGE....

'IF YOU SAY THAT ISLAM IS VIOLENT, WE WILL KILL YOU!'

Islamic Protest - IN AUSTRALIA - on the streets of Sydney from Hyde Park to George Streets, September 15, 2012.

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:02pm

Pakistan: Christian woman miscarries after brutal beating by Muslims
Dec 01, 2014 10:22 am | Robert Spencer

“Bibi has been quoted as saying that the Muslim family often tried to persuade her to convert to Islam.”

And she refused.

Muhammad said: “Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war…When you meet your enemies who are polytheists [kill them]......

Google

SURELY NOT! :P

"ISLAM rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."
- The Muslim Council of Britain

QUESTION;
Why does 'the moslem' hate us [i.e. we who are not moslems] ?

Is it because we have harmed 'the moslem', beforehand ?

ANSWER;
'The moslem' - MUST - hate us, because ISLAM establishes a never-ending and lawful - RELIGIOUS HATRED - for all non-moslems which is established and is given lawful authority, within the inerrant Koran] !

"....there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever...."

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:12pm

Wealthy, educated “hipster jihadi” blows himself up in the Islamic State
Dec 01, 2014 05:58 am | Robert Spencer

He grew up in a wealthy Cairo neighborhood.

He studied at the French Lycee in Heliopolis and spoke four languages.

But…but…Pope Francis and John Kerry tell us that alleviating poverty and providing educational opportunities will end jihad terror — so why would a wealthy, educated Egyptian have decided to fight with the Islamic State?......

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WHY ?

Coz wealthy, educated “hipster jihadi” moslem, was a moslem.

Duh!!!!!!!

Advise to 'the moslem', in the holy Koran.....

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

Moslem = = ISLAM

ISLAM = = moslem.

Moslem = = a sick, monstrous, human being.i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:21pm

Seattle Muslim arrested for threats to murder Darren Wilson
Dec 02, 2014 07:30 pm | Robert Spencer

“We really need to start killing the police … OOooopppss I mean our oppressors.”

The idea that Muslims or anyone else are oppressed in America today is absurd, but there are numerous organizations and individuals wholly devoted to keeping this falsehood alive and capitalizing upon it.......

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SURELY THE MOSLEM DOES NOT HATE US [i.e. the West],
JUST BECAUSE WE ARE NOT MOSLEM ! ??? :P

QUESTION;
Why does 'the moslem' hate us [i.e. we who are not moslems] ?

Is it because we have harmed 'the moslem', beforehand ?

ANSWER;
'The moslem' - MUST - hate us, because ISLAM establishes a never-ending and lawful - RELIGIOUS HATRED - for all non-moslems which is established and is given lawful authority, within the inerrant Koran] !

"....there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever...."

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

'The moslem' hates us ?

Only, because we are not moslem ?

Really ????????????

That proposition sounds absurd!!!!!!

INSANE, even!

Quote:

i+++

Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:34pm

Denmark report: Muslims commit disproportionate share of crime
Dec 02, 2014 06:06 am | Nicolai Sennels......

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SURELY THIS IS ANOTHER SLANDEROUS MISTAKE BY THOSE ISLAM-O-PHOBES IN DENMARK ! :P

The moslem is an innocent party/person !

Because he is a moslem !!!!!

as per Allah's 'inerrant' declaration of that 'fact'....

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:50pm

Yadda wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:07pm:

Yadda, out of a matter of interest, what was your opinion of Ian Paisley as a Preacher and a promoter of violence and hatred and intolerance?

I'll look him up on wiki, and report back to you, ...maybe.

Please. I'd be interested to hear your take on him. Wiki's article is a bit tame on him actually. Have a read of some of his obituaries. They might be a bit more informative...

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 1:17pm

Congressman: State Dept should hire Muslim scholars to combat Islamic State ideology
Dec 04, 2014 08:34 am | Robert Spencer....

Google

COMMENT;
This is the mentality [the insanity!!!!] that our political leaders are forced to ['reasonably', and logically] accept, once our leaders in society, our leaders in the media, and our leaders in academia, have accepted [have been duped into believing] the lies about ISLAM, being a peaceful faith.

!!!!!!!

"ISLAM rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."
- The Muslim Council of Britain

What will come next, is that our LAWMAKERS [in nations like Australia] will make it 'a crime against humanity', to 'slander' [i.e. to scrutinize or to criticise] 'peaceful' ISLAM.i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 1:28pm

Egypt: Muslim convert to Christianity rots in execution chamber, begins hunger strike
Dec 04, 2014 04:05 pm | Raymond Ibrahim

[Via FrontPage Magazine] According to attorney Karam Ghobrial (“Gabriel”), his client, Bishoy Armia Boulous, a Muslim convert to Christianity, remains illegally incarcerated and has “vowed to starve himself to death,” ....

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In the ISLAMIC 'state' [of mind]....

The more things change, the more they remain the same!.....

and from my own archive.....

Quote:

Egypt Rules Christian Convert Must Remain Legally Muslim
Feb. 03 2008
An Egyptian judge ruled this week in an unprecedented case that a Muslim who converted to Christianity cannot legally change his religious status....
.....Muhammad Hegazy, 25, lost his case on Tuesday when Judge Muhammad Husseini of a court in Cairo said according to sharia, or Islamic law, Islam is the final and most complete religion and therefore Muslims already practice full freedom of religion and cannot convert to an older belief (Christianity or Judaism),

.....The judge didn’t listen to our defense, and we didn’t even have a chance to talk before the court,

said Gamel Eid, head of the Arab Network for Human Rights Information (ANHRI) to U.S. Copts Association.

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080203/egypt-rules-christian-convert-must-remain-legally-muslim.htm
an old link, but Kosher article

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Grey, the 'apologist' for ISLAM said.....

Grey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2011 at 11:01am:

http://islamispeace.org.uk/itm.php?id_top=34#5

How does Islam guarantee Human Rights?

Freedom of conscience is laid down by the Qur'an itself: "There is no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clearly from falsehood; whoever rejects evil and believes in God has grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold that never breaks. And God is All-Hearing and All-Knowing." (Qur'an 2:256)

Yadda said.....

There is a famous Koran verse, often offered to naive non-moslems, within non-moslem jurisdictions,
....'proving' ISLAM's 'tolerance' of other religions.

"Let there be no compulsion in religion......."
Koran 2:256

What moslems always portray in places where 'the moslem' is in the minority, is that that Koran verse [Koran 2:256] proves to everyone, that ISLAM is tolerant of other faiths.

But wherever ISLAM is rampant, empowered, and potent, ISLAM in deed, TOTALLY rejects other faiths having 'equal' status [and equal lawful rights] with ISLAM.

And the Koran verse which confirms that fact, but which moslems fail to declare to non-moslems, is here;

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 1:33pm

Pakistan: Jihadists open fire at home of lawyer defending accused blasphemer
Dec 04, 2014 11:12 pm | Robert Spencer

Pakistan’s blasphemy laws are a massive occasion for human rights abuses, but the world human rights community takes little notice.....

Google

!!!!!!!i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 1:38pm

QUESTION;
Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?

ANSWER;
These ISIS 'monsters', day by day, year by year, have been, and are, a creation of the philosophy known as ISLAM [and, of the moslem community].

Oh woe is me! Oh woe is me!

Those poor [impoverished] moslem extremists!

ISLAM is not the cause, the inspiration, of moslem extremism and violence!

Oh no!

Moslem extremism is caused by the circumstance and the poverty of moslems, and their lack of a pluralist education!

Don't ya know, those poor moslem extremists are ~~only struggling~~ only REVOLTING. ...against their ignorance and their poverty!

....that is the argument which has been proffered by the peaceful 'moderate' moslems,
....and an argument that has then been taken up as a social cause, by the 'do-gooder' leftists and political 'progressives' in the West....

Quote:

Tunisia: Educated, affluent Muslims joining Islamic State
Oct 22, 2014 09:55 am | Robert Spencer

Everyone knows that poverty causes terrorism, and that therefore giving money to Muslim states will quell terrorism.
All the learned analysts say that.
But when the last Western authority finishes his or her speech to that effect, these wealthy young Muslims with master’s degrees will still be supporting jihad,....

Google

Quote:

India: Muslim software engineer who admired Islamic State arrested for plotting jihad attacks against U.S. establishments in Mumbai
Oct 20, 2014 05:50 pm | Robert Spencer

A software engineer who lived in the suburbs?
What? Doesn’t Anees Ansari, who worked at a multi-national software company, know that terrorism is a result of poverty and ignorance?....

Google

Quote:

UK: Muslim medical student arrested for Islamic State plot to commit jihad mass murder in Britain
Oct 08, 2014 05:05 pm | Robert Spencer

A medical student?
Doesn’t Tarik Hassane know that poverty causes terrorism?
I trust that John Kerry is jetting over to London now to talk to this young man and explain to him how he is misunderstanding Islam.....

Google

Quote:

UK Muslima, a doctor, happily poses with severed head: “Dream Job”
Sep 10, 2014 09:22 pm | Robert Spencer

Yet another jihadist gets the crazy idea that “when you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks” (Qur’an 47:4) means “when you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks.”
Obviously only someone who knows nothing about Islam could make a mistake like that.
And she is a doctor to boot.
Doesn’t Mujahidah bint Usama know that poverty causes terrorism?....

Google

Quote:

Pope calls for fighting hunger and poverty as key to stopping jihadists
Nov 28, 2014 05:57 pm | Robert Spencer

Alleviating hunger and poverty won’t end jihad terrorism.
The Pope here is repeating the oft-refuted notion that poverty causes terrorism.....

Google

Quote:

Wealthy, educated “hipster jihadi” blows himself up in the Islamic State
Dec 01, 2014 05:58 am | Robert Spencer

He grew up in a wealthy Cairo neighborhood.
He studied at the French Lycee in Heliopolis and spoke four languages.
But…but…Pope Francis and John Kerry tell us that alleviating poverty and providing educational opportunities will end jihad terror — so why would a wealthy, educated Egyptian have decided to fight with the Islamic State?....

Google

Quote:

Poverty causes terrorism? UAE jihadi arrested in palatial home
Dec 04, 2014 11:58 pm | Robert Spencer

The Muslima who murdered an American at a mall in Abu Dhabi was arrested in her home.
Pope Francis and John Kerry and others say we need to address the root causes of jihad terrorism by addressing problems of hunger and poverty.....

Google

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 1:49pm

Pluralism in Turkey: A Fairy Tale :: Bekdil at Gatestone
December 2, 2014

http://www.meforum.org/4904/pluralism-in-turkey-a-fairy-tale

worth a read.

COMMENT;
~~Secular Turkey~~ moslem majority Turkey, under the 'guiding hand' and influence of ISLAMIST Erdogan, is slowly, inexorably, abandoning pluralism and democracy, .....for the political corruption and the political intolerance of an ISLAMIST state [...the, ISLAMIC STATE? Yes.].

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On Date/Time 13 Jun 2008 9:59:17am, I [Yadda] posted this [below] on the [ABC] Q&A online forum...

Quote:

bjorn989 said....

"........If you want proof that there can be a stable secular democracy in an Islamic country try Turkey.
Their government is probably more secular than ours.
Just because you dont know the facts doesnt mean you cant learn them.........."

You speak so eloquently.
And you are WRONG, about Turkey.

And i sincerly hope that you are willing take your own advice [in your 3rd sentence above].

example....
'One Cannot Be a Muslim, and Secular'

Those are the words of the *current* Turkish PM....

article....

May 23, 2007
Turkish PM Erdogan in Speech During Term As Istanbul Mayor Attacks Turkey's Constitution, Describing it As 'A Huge Lie':
'Sovereignty Belongs Unconditionally and Always To Allah';
'One Cannot Be a Muslim, and Secular'
h ttp://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD159607

MODERATOR -
This is political debate.
....and i need a right of reply.
....not your ever present, selective CLIPPING, of my responses.

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p.s.
If you search, you will not find this post [above] on the ABC, Q&A online forum.

Almost every single post that i made [on the ABC, Q&A online forum] [being] critical of ISLAM [and critical of the violent behaviour of some moslems], was 'moderated', by either being 'clipped' or by my entire post being removed from the ABC, Q&A online forum.

[i did complain to the ABC ombudsman, about this censoring [of political opinion about ISLAM] at the ABC, Q&A online forum. and i got a reply.]

SOME TIME LATER, every single one [of my 100's of posts], that were posted on the ABC, Q&A online forum, were removed, presumably by the pro-moslem Q&A online forum moderator(s).

Tony Jones and his crew have described the [ABC] QandA format/program, as 'AN EXPERIMENT IN DEMOCRACY'.

It is a pity [for democracy!] that people like Tony Jones, on an 'open' public forum like ABC, QandA, only want to broadcast their own voices and their own opinions - and the opinions of those who agree with them.i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:44pm

Yadda wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

So, using that logic, Y., who then created this fellow?

::)

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Soren on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:05pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:44pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

So, using that logic, Y., who then created this fellow?

::)

Who created this fellow?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Caliph adamant on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 5:51pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:44pm:

So, using that logic

What logic is your miniscule grey matter alluding to?

The TOPIC is "Where have these ISIS "monsters" come from.

Why do you find it Impossible to stick to topic?

All have noticed you inability to answer questions.

In your own words, "Why don't you piss off"

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 7:30pm

Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:44pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

So, using that logic, Y., who then created this fellow?

::)

Who created this fellow?

This mob?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Soren on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 8:29pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 7:30pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:44pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

So, using that logic, Y., who then created this fellow?

::)

Who created this fellow?

This mob?

Same people who created Korny.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 9:50pm

Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 8:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 7:30pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:44pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

So, using that logic, Y., who then created this fellow?

::)

Who created this fellow?

This mob?

Same people who created Korny.

Yep and they are, Christians perhaps? ::)

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by freediver on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 10:13pm

Adamant wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 5:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:44pm:

So, using that logic

What logic is your miniscule grey matter alluding to?

Brian has only one weapon in his repertoire - an astonishing inability to comprehend even the most basic arguments. He wields it well.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 10:24pm

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 10:13pm:

Adamant wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 5:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:44pm:

So, using that logic

What logic is your miniscule grey matter alluding to?

Brian has only one weapon in his repertoire - an astonishing inability to comprehend even the most basic arguments. He wields it well.

I comprehend arguments very well, FD. What I don't comprehend is the false premises which you believe are the arguments in themselves. ::)

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 11:09am

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 10:24pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 10:13pm:

Adamant wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 5:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:44pm:

So, using that logic

What logic is your miniscule grey matter alluding to?

Brian has only one weapon in his repertoire - an astonishing inability to comprehend even the most basic arguments. He wields it well.

I comprehend arguments very well, FD. What I don't comprehend is the false premises which you believe are the arguments in themselves. ::)

Brian has only one weapon in his repertoire - an astonishing inability to comprehend even the most basic arguments.

Brian ALSO has an inflated opinion of his own comprehension skills.

:)

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 11:18am

Mumbai jihad murder mastermind to India: Give us Kashmir or get jihad
Dec 05, 2014 04:28 pm | Robert Spencer

A murderer threatens more murder: “Hafiz warned Modi that the latter should ‘resolve the Kashmir dispute, and if you are not ready to resolve, then God willing, Kashmir will be the gate and we will launch Jihad against India.'”

“Immediately resolve Kashmir dispute or Jihad will be launched against India:.....

Google

Terrorising the enemy of Allah, WORKS!!!!

Every moslem, know that fact.

But where does 'the moslem' get such an idea from, initially ?

It beats me ! :P

FROM THE SUNNA OF MOHAMMED - ISLAM'S PROPHET AND ARGUABLY, THE AUTHOR OF ISLAM'S THEOLOGY OF TERROR

Allah's Apostle said,
"I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)...."
hadith/bukhari #004.052.220

".....I have been given superiority......; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies):....."
hadithsunnah/muslim/ #004.1062

And ISIS has got nothing to do with the 'mainstream' moslem communities, being hosted in many nations like Australia !

Of course not!!!! :P

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 11:32am

Breaking news: Interpol alert seeks arrest of MB’s Qaradawi
Dec 05, 2014 03:53 pm | Robert Spencer.....

Google

Absurd.

The response from many Western security agencies and security analysts, to the terror threat posed by 'the moslem', living among us, in every Western nation.

ISLAM, ....is the philosophy, the 'faith', which 'the moslem' subscribes to, and has embraced.

THE KORAN;

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193

THE SUNNAH OF MOHAMMED [....the record of Mohammeds good deeds and sayings];

"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

ISLAMIC LAW
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 11:48am

QUESTION;
Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?

ANSWER;
These ISIS 'monsters', day by day, year by year, have been, and are, a creation of the philosophy known as ISLAM [and, of the moslem community].i

American Muslims for Palestine lectured on how to skirt terror laws

coz, obviously, it is the human right of the American moslem, not to get caught supporting terrorism!! :P

Quote:

American Muslims for Palestine lectured on how to skirt terror laws
Dec 05, 2014 11:58 am | Robert Spencer

They were told how to “navigate the fine line between legal activism and material support for terrorism.”

This was necessary because, you see, the U.S. has “criminalize[d] the support of the Palestinian people,”

i.e., AMP can’t support Hamas outright, so here are some workarounds......

Google

We infidels must RESPECT AND PROTECT, the human right of 'the moslem' living among us, ~~to support ISLAMIC terrorism~~ to support the noble moslem 'struggle' ~~for Allah's cause~~ FOR WORLD PEACE !! :Di

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Rocketanski on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 11:51am

When Gough carced it I never heard anybody criticise his immigration program. Thanks again for the terrorists Gough.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:10pm

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 11:51am:

When Gough carced it I never heard anybody criticise his immigration program. Thanks again for the terrorists Gough.

That’s because Fraser implimented Gough’s immigration program. Cunning, no?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Rocketanski on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:15pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:10pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 11:51am:

When Gough carced it I never heard anybody criticise his immigration program. Thanks again for the terrorists Gough.

That’s because Fraser implimented Gough’s immigration program. Cunning, no?

Most people who come out after the Lebanese civil war have been great for Australia but a hell of a lot haven't. What is wrong with looking at certain peoples and seeing if they will be good for Australia's future before they bring them out here?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:45pm

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:15pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:10pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 11:51am:

When Gough carced it I never heard anybody criticise his immigration program. Thanks again for the terrorists Gough.

That’s because Fraser implimented Gough’s immigration program. Cunning, no?

I’m not sure, Homo. What does a civil war in the 1980s have to do with Gough?

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Rocketanski on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:53pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:45pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:15pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:10pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 11:51am:

When Gough carced it I never heard anybody criticise his immigration program. Thanks again for the terrorists Gough.

That’s because Fraser implimented Gough’s immigration program. Cunning, no?

I’m not sure, Homo. What does a civil war in the 1980s have to do with Gough?

The Lebanese Civil War (Arabic: الحرب الأهلية اللبنانية‎ - Al-Ḥarb al-Ahliyyah al-Libnāniyyah) was a multifaceted civil war in Lebanon, lasting from 1975 to 1990 and resulting in an estimated 120,000 fatalities.

History isn't one of your strong points is it Ms Knowledge. That's almost as bad as your tank stream blunder.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Karnal on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 1:15pm

Are you saying Gough Whitlam started the Lebanese Civil.War?

We’ll have to educate you up, Homo.

Lesson one: anal dilation.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 5:08pm

Gough was dismissed in 1975. By your own admission, Rocket the Lebanese civil didn't start until that year. How many "terrorists" came to Australia in the 11 months Gough was in power, do you think? Considering he was actually anti-Immigration, as we know from his comments about the East Timorese, I think it's obviously the honest answer would have be, "bugger all." ::)

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Rocketanski on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 6:17pm

Sorry, Gough was 'anti-immigration'.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Rocketanski on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 6:33pm

Dumb Gough as his pet dago Grasby, Jewboy Fraser and cry baby Hawke filled our country up with a migrant group of very little use and a future of troubles. Thank you spazzos.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 6:53pm

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 6:33pm:

Dumb Gough as his pet dago Grasby, Jewboy Fraser and cry baby Hawke filled our country up with a migrant group of very little use and a future of troubles. Thank you spazzos.

Your bigotry and intolerance is showing Rocket, indicating how biased your viewpoint is. How immature. ::)

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 6:55pm

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 6:17pm:

Sorry, Gough was 'anti-immigration'.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Actually he was. He was quite frightened of allowing Indochinese and East Timorese refugees into Australia, fearing they would be anti-Communist like, "those bloody Balts," had been, much to the detriment of the ALP during the 1950s.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Soren on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 9:50pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 8:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 7:30pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:44pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

So, using that logic, Y., who then created this fellow?

::)

Who created this fellow?

This mob?

Same people who created Korny.

Yep and they are, Christians perhaps? ::)

No.

You send them things and they have no f Vcking notion about what to do with it - whether it is ideas or T shirts.

If some aid agency from Africa sent masks and African paraphernalia to Europe in 1944, would Europeans have been walking down the street in penis sheaths and warrior masks? No. They are not primitive. Africans, Aborigines, Tongans (Noah Takaluah) are primitive. Europeans aren't.

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 10:08pm

Denmark: Muslim bookseller gets four years for inciting jihad terror
Dec 05, 2014 09:04 am | Robert Spencer

“I just used the civil rights that Danish society has given me,” Mansour said.

Yes, he used them [civil rights] in an attempt to destroy them [civil rights].

He invokes the Muhammad cartoons and says that

just as they were an exercise of the freedom of speech, so also were his calls to jihad.......

Google

as per.....
IMAGE.....

Quote:

[quote]

ISIS is largely made up of moslem emigres who have come from [moslem communities resident in] Western nations.

ISIS is a creature of the West's own making.

Give the gift of freedoms to moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

Empower moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

[/quote]i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 10:19pm

Canada arrests 15-year-old Muslim on terrorism charges
Dec 06, 2014 02:25 pm | Robert Spencer

He allegedly robbed a convenience store in order to get enough money to go overseas and join the jihad.

“The boy told the officers that he had been living in sin as his country did not practise Sharia law........

Google

Clearly the moslem community of Canada, ~~are teaching their children about ISLAM~~ are teaching their children about Jihad too.

Just like the moslem community of Australia are doing....

Quote:

i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 10:22pm

Soren wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:55pm:

If some aid agency from Africa sent masks and African paraphernalia to Europe in 1944, would Europeans have been walking down the street in penis sheaths and warrior masks? No. They are not primitive. Africans, Aborigines, Tongans (Noah Takaluah) are primitive. Europeans aren't.

So, the Nazis and other Fascists were the epitome of European sophistication and civilisation, Soren? ::)

At those Africans' hearts were in the right place, unlike of course the Europeans who colonised, enslaved and oppressed them... ::)

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 10:31pm

Jordan: Despite government efforts, support for Islamic State grows
Dec 06, 2014 01:50 pm | Robert Spencer

While Western leaders confidently and repeatedly assert that the Islamic State is un-Islamic and has nothing to do with Islam,

Islamic State jihadis present themselves as the exponents of “the real Islam,”.........

Google

But how can this be !!!!!

Aren't the imam's in the mosques, in Jordan, ~~teaching~~ correcting ~~the Jihadis~~ the 'wayward moslems', and reinforcing the fact that 'ISLAM is peace' ???

Don't the the 'wayward moslems' in Jordan, know, that 'ISLAM is peace' ???

Why not!!!!!!

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

QUESTION;
Why does 'the moslem' hate us [i.e. we who are not moslems] ?

Is it because we have harmed 'the moslem', beforehand ?

ANSWER;
No.

The answer is that 'the moslem' - MUST - hate us, because ISLAM establishes a never-ending and lawful - RELIGIOUS HATRED - for all non-moslems which is established and is given lawful authority, within the inerrant Koran] !

"....there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever...."

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

ISLAMIC LAW......

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 10:42pm

Germany: Police close mosque for spreading Islamic State ideology
Dec 06, 2014 10:48 am | Robert Spencer

The mosque’s management is accused of “promoting ISIL values and encouraging young Muslims in the city to travel to Syria and Iraq, and join the ranks of the group, along with Al-Nusra Front.”

Egyptian Human Rights Activist Ahmad Harqan recently said that the Islamic State and Boko Haram are following the Qur’an.........

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But how can this be !!!!!

Aren't the imam's in the mosques, in GERMANY, ~~teaching~~ correcting ~~the Jihadis~~ the 'wayward moslems', and reinforcing the fact that 'ISLAM is peace' ???

Don't the the 'wayward moslems' in GERMANY, know, that 'ISLAM is peace' ???

Why not!!!!!!

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

QUESTION;
Why does 'the moslem' hate us [i.e. we who are not moslems] ?

Is it because we have harmed 'the moslem', beforehand ?

ANSWER;
No.

The answer is that 'the moslem' - MUST - hate us, because ISLAM establishes a never-ending and lawful - RELIGIOUS HATRED - for all non-moslems which is established and is given lawful authority, within the inerrant Koran] !

"....there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever...."

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

ISLAMIC LAW......

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 10:54pm

Al-Qaeda kills U.S. hostage during failed rescue attempt by U.S., Yemeni forces
Dec 06, 2014 09:23 am | Robert Spencer

Kidnapping infidels and releasing them for ransom or enslaving them, as well as killing them if that option is deemed most advantageous for the Muslims, is fully sanctioned in Islamic law:.........

Google

THE KORAN......

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

ISLAMIC LAW......

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 11:02pm

QUESTION;
Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?

ANSWER;
These ISIS 'monsters', day by day, year by year, have been, and are, a creation of the philosophy known as ISLAM [and, of the moslem community].i

Muslims - Islamic State is a Jewish plot.
Google

Well of course the Islamic State is a Jewish plot !!!!!          :D

Those Joos are frightfully, frightfully cunning!!!!!       :P

......whereas moslems, are all mental retards,    .....if they expect anyone is going to believe that slander and lie.

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 8^th, 2014 at 7:12pm

“Waging jihad against the West… is beyond a shadow of the doubt a religious obligation binding upon every Muslim”
Dec 07, 2014 05:53 pm | Robert Spencer

How did Yahya Maguire, a convert to Islam from Canada, get this idea?

Don’t all the mosques in Canada teach peace and tolerance?

Why is this misunderstanding of Islam so widespread?.........

Google

But how can this be !!!!!

Aren't the imam's in the mosques, in CANADA, ~~teaching~~ correcting ~~the Jihadis~~ the 'wayward moslems', and reinforcing the fact that 'ISLAM is peace' ???

Don't the the 'wayward moslems' in CANADA, know, that 'ISLAM is peace' ???

Why not!!!!!!

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

QUESTION;
Why does 'the moslem' hate us [i.e. we who are not moslems] ?

Is it because we have harmed 'the moslem', beforehand ?

ANSWER;
No.

The answer is that 'the moslem' - MUST - hate us, because ISLAM establishes a never-ending and lawful - RELIGIOUS HATRED - for all non-moslems which is established and is given lawful authority, within the inerrant Koran] !

"....there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever...."

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

ISLAMIC LAW......

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 8^th, 2014 at 7:19pm

Denmark: Muslim gangs enforcing Sharia in residential areas
Dec 07, 2014 12:14 pm | Nicolai Sennels

(Photo: Muslim youths in Denmark demonstrating for Sharia)

Islamic supremacists are becoming increasingly violent in Europe.

If we do not stop them effectively, where will it end?

“Immigrant gangs” is Danish media’s euphemism for Muslim gangs.

Translated from EB:
Islamic extremists use immigrant gangs to enforce religious Sharia laws in residential areas throughout Denmark..........

Google

But how can this be !!!!!

Aren't the imam's in the mosques, in DENMARK, ~~teaching~~ correcting ~~the Jihadis~~ the 'wayward moslems', and reinforcing the fact that 'ISLAM is peace' ???

Don't the the 'wayward moslems' in DENMARK, know, that 'ISLAM is peace' ???

Why not!!!!!!

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

ISLAMIC LAW......

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 8^th, 2014 at 7:45pm

Moderate Muslim Mubin Shaikh to foes of jihad: “I am your ENEMY…Prepare yourselves accordingly.”
Dec 07, 2014 09:40 am | Robert Spencer

Mubin Shaikh is a Canadian moderate Muslim who acted as a counter terrorism agent for the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) in the investigation of a 2006 Toronto jihad mass murder plot,..........

Google

!!!!!!!!!!!!

But not all moslems are 'terrorists'.

HONEST!!!!!

Some moslems love us infidels!

HONEST!!!!!

Just ask Tony Abbott!!!!!

Yadda said....

Quote:

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."

Today, many moslems - living in Australia - are insisting that we, Australians, must be forced to believe the incredible;

"I'm a moslem, and i worship Allah, and i revere Mohammed his messenger.
And i know that Allah calls for the enslavement and/or murder of all non-moslems - THROUGH JIHAD [religious fighting, when moslems have that 'opportunity'].

But i don't follow that part of my faith.

HONEST!" ;D

Dictionary;
incredible = =
1 impossible to believe.
2 difficult to believe; extraordinary.

Every person who declares himself to be a moslem,
is self declaring that he agrees, to the obligation of the moslem, to participate in religious fighting,
....against Allah's enemies, whenever he has an 'opportunity' [provided by Allah].

Quote:

'Whosoever dies without participating in an expedition (jihad) nor having the intention to do so, dies on a branch of hypocrisy,'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2632768/Brisbane-woman-charged-supporting-terrorism-whilst-Australian-husband-fights-Syria-member-brutal-militant-group.html
- Australian moslem, Mohamed Elomari

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 8^th, 2014 at 11:05pm

Yadda, do you ever get tired of your own voice? Obviously you enjoy the sound of one hand clapping... ::)

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 9^th, 2014 at 7:56am

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2014 at 11:05pm:

Yadda, do you ever get tired of your own voice? Obviously you enjoy the sound of one hand clapping... ::)

Brian,

As i have said previously;

I am [and many others too, are] 'banging the drum' about ISLAM, every day, because i believe that it is the right thing to do.

To shine a light, on what ISLAM is.

As i have said previously;

Quote:

Brian,

Really, i'm more like a little kid, who has been given a toy drum.

And i just keep banging it, and banging it, and banging it !!!

You have met one of those little kids, haven't you Brian ?

That's me !!!!!!!!! ;D

Why don't you join us Brian ?

Or is 'the moslem', choosing to express himself like this, still acceptable to you ?

IMAGE....

"Behead those who insult ISLAM"
Islamic Protest - IN AUSTRALIA - on the streets of Sydney from Hyde Park to George Streets, September 15, 2012.

AND DOING THIS.....
IMAGE.....

"Freedom of expression GO TO HELL!"

AND MOSLEMS IN AUSTRALIA, DOING THIS.....

????????????

Quote:

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 9^th, 2014 at 8:01am

Moslems, are monstrous human beings, imo.

To all you people who choose to protect moslems [and ISLAM] from public scrutiny....

You really, really are, the friends of wanna-be-murderers.....
.....and shame on you.

"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 12:11am

Australian Muslim leader backs right to fight for the Islamic State
Dec 09, 2014 06:34 pm | Robert Spencer

Wissam Haddad, the former head of al-Risalah Islamic Centre, seems to take for granted that the Islamic State is implementing Sharia properly.

Where did he get this idea?

Is he reading “Islamophobic” literature?........

Googlei

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 12:17am

Islamic State beheads four children for refusing to convert to Islam
Dec 09, 2014 11:26 am | Robert Spencer

Islam forbids forced conversion — “There is no compulsion in religion” (Qur’an 2:256).

However, what is considered “forced” is more elastic than the Western view.

Muhammad is represented in a hadith as saying that Muslims should take up arms against non-Muslims who refuse to convert.......

Google

MAINSTREAM ISLAMIC LAW, makes 'lawful', the killing of those who do not believe, as moslems believe.

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAM'S own manifesto [the Koran] makes 'lawful' [and encourages extreme violence and] the murder of those who do not believe, as moslems believe.

e.g.
The law of ISLAM, declares all mankind who reject ISLAM, to be the servants/'friends' of SATAN, and therefore WORTHY OF DEATH. [Koran 4.74-76]

In that single 'inerrant' proposition, ISLAM makes moslem 'religious' violence [against those who are not moslems] 'LAWFUL' [AND, also makes the murder of those who are not moslems 'LAWFUL'] !

THE KORAN...

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

".......And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!"
Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan."
Koran 4.74-76

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 12:29am

Three US Muslim teens are caught trying to join the Islamic State
Dec 09, 2014 10:40 am | Robert Spencer

This story and the FBI are pushing the claim that Mohammed Hamzah Khan was “radicalized” on the Internet, and that his parents are shocked, bewildered and saddened by his attempt to join the Islamic State.

Presumably the Islam they taught him, as far as the Washington Post and the feds are concerned, was moderate.......

Google

Amazing how when non-moslems who study ISLAMIC texts, and they believe that ISLAM is a militant and supremacist philosophy, they are called ISLAM-o-phobes and 'racists' and 'bigots'.

Yet it is clear [it is evident that in recent months], there is this never ending stream of mainstream moslem youths from Western nations, trying to get to Syria, to join ISIS.

Where is it, that all of these mainstream moslem youths [coming from Western nations] [who are seeking to join ISIS], get their perception of a violent ISLAM from ???

Hmmmmmm!

I wonder!!!

????????????

Quote:

i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 12:46am

Islamic jihadis murdered seven people every hour in November 2014
Dec 11, 2014 03:15 am | Robert Spencer

The victims were murdered by people who believed themselves to be acting in accord with the texts and teachings of Islam,

at a time when Western leaders and mainstream media demand that everyone believe that this has nothing to do with Islam,

and brands you a “bigot” and a “racist” if you dare think otherwise........

Google

A www site that catalogues the daily violence which is being committed by moslems, around the world......

THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/

These monsters [moslems] live among us.

By definition, 'the moslem' is a person who 'subscribes to' the tenets and laws of ISLAM.

[n.b. ....if they did not, then they would not be moslems]

MAINSTREAM ISLAMIC LAW, makes 'lawful', the killing of those who do not believe, as moslems believe.

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAM [through 'the moslem'] is engaged in a never-ending religious war, with all non-moslems, and with all non-moslem jurisdictions [whenever 'the moslem', has the 'opportunity' to do 'good works']....

Quote:

"As to the relationship between Muslims and infidels,..." ...OBL

"....Battle, animosity, and hatred -- directed from the Muslim to the infidel -- is the foundation of our religion.."
OBL

ISLAM's way of achieving 'peace' explained - according to Osama Bin Laden...
OR,
Advice to real moslems, on how to be 'rightly guided' in your worldly relationships with infidels.

November 10, 2008
Raymond Ibrahim: "Islam's Doctrines of Deception"
[quote]

"As to the relationship between Muslims and infidels, this is summarized by the Most High's Word: ‘We renounce you. Enmity and hate shall forever reign between us -- till you believe in Allah alone’ [Koran 60:4]. So there is an enmity, evidenced by fierce hostility from the heart. And this fierce hostility -- that is, battle -- ceases only if the infidel submits to the authority of Islam, or if his blood is forbidden from being shed [i.e., a dhimmi], or if Muslims are at that point in time weak and incapable [i.e., taqiyya]. But if the hate at any time extinguishes from the heart, this is great apostasy! Such, then, is the basis and foundation of the relationship between the infidel and the Muslim. Battle, animosity, and hatred -- directed from the Muslim to the infidel -- is the foundation of our religion. And we consider this a justice and kindness to them" (from The Al Qaeda Reader).
.....It bears repeating that this hostile world view is well supported by all of Islam’s schools of jurisprudence."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/11/raymond-ibrahim-islams-doctrines-of-deception.html

n.b. the words....

".....But if the hate at any time extinguishes from the heart, this is great apostasy!"

Translation....

If the hatred for non-moslems, at any time extinguishes from the heart of a moslem, "this is great apostasy!"

i.e.
You can only be a REAL moslem, if you have a [open or concealed] burning, never-ending HATRED for all non-moslems.

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

[/quote]i+++

Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 12:52am

UK: Muslim 19-year-old charged with two terrorism offenses
Dec 10, 2014 04:02 pm | Robert Spencer

A glimpse of Britain’s glorious multicultural future.

If this is Syed Choudhury’s Twitter account, he is an open supporter of the Islamic State..........

Googlei

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

[/quote]

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 4:04am

Yadda wrote on Dec 9^th, 2014 at 8:01am:

They forget women are powerful!

Game set and match,... They lose!

The Muslim is too paranoid.. The war seeking Muslim bent on oppressing his comparatively more powerful woman that is : by definition!

The war seeking Muslim is just an anarchist whom forgot that anarchy has no state ::)

Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 10:20am

QUESTION;
Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?

ANSWER;
These ISIS 'monsters', day by day, year by year, have been, and are, a creation of the philosophy known as ISLAM [and, of the moslem community].

JUST ONE REASON WHY WESTERN NATIONS SHOULD NOT LET ANY OF THEIR 'DEVELOPMENT AID', GO TO ANY MOSLEM MAJORITY NATION.....

Quote:

Pakistan: School textbooks promote violent jihad
Dec 10, 2014 09:33 am | Robert Spencer

The introduction of such material into the textbooks is being promoted by members of the Islamic party, Jamaat-e-Islami.

Yet in the West it is an official dogma that violent jihad has nothing to do with Islam,

and anyone who believes otherwise is a racist, bigoted Islamophobe.

How is it that Jamaat-e-Islami has succumbed to “Islamophobia”? ..........

Googlei

from my archive...

Quote:

'MULTICULTURALISM' SAUDI ARABIA STYLE...

"Saudi-led "interfaith" meeting to be held in... Spain"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/06/saudi-led-interfaith-meeting-to-be-held-in-spain.html

There are several angles to the choice of Spain for the site of this "dialogue": One, obviously, is that

it would be rather awkward to invite a large contingent of religious leaders to a place where they are forbidden from carrying bibles and other sacred texts, and from displaying religious symbols.

And, of course, they certainly couldn't hold the meeting in Islamic holy cities of Mecca and Medina, since no non-Muslims are allowed there.....

Does that sound like multiculturalism to you?

from my archive...

Quote:

"While Saudi king promotes interfaith dialogue, Saudi textbooks still teach hatred and intolerance of everything -- and everyone -- non-Islamic"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/07/while-saudi-king-promotes-interfaith-dialogue-saudi-textbooks-still-teach-hatred-and-intolerance-of.html

"Saudis continue "reaching out" to Jews and Christians, while simultaneously teaching their children to hate those same Jews and Christians"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/07/saudis-continue-reaching-out-to-jews-and-christians-while-simultaneously-teaching-their-children-to.html

...Here, for example, is a multiple-choice question from a recent edition of a Saudi fourth-grade textbook, "Monotheism and Jurisprudence," in a section that attempts to teach children to distinguish between "true" and "false" belief in God:

Q. "Is belief true in the following instances:

(a) A man prays but hates those who are virtuous.

(b) A man professes that there is no deity other than God but loves the unbelievers.

(c) A man worships God alone, loves the believers, and hates the unbelievers."

The correct answer, of course, is (c):

According to the Wahhabi imams who wrote this textbook, it isn't enough to simply worship God or just to love other believers; it is important to hate unbelievers, too. By the same token, (b) is wrong as well: Even a man who worships God cannot be said to have "true belief" if he also loves unbelievers.

"Unbelievers," in this context, are Christians and Jews. In fact, any child who attends Saudi schools until ninth grade will eventually be taught outright that "Jews and Christians are enemies of believers."

from my archive...

Quote:

A $29 MILLION GIFT FROM AUSTRALIA, TOWARDS THE ISLAMIC JIHAD.
....why are we so, so, dumb????

Australia unveils Islamic schools for Indon
Aug 2, 2007
Australia's ambassador to Indonesia and the secretary-general of the Indonesian Ministry for Religious Affairs have opened 46 new Islamic schools as part of a $29 million gift from Australia.
Work on **another 255** of the schools, known as madrasahs, will start in a few weeks.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/02/1994501.htm?section=justin

duh! duh! duh!

And where do those Islamic schools in Indonesia get their texts books to teach their children?
....Saudi Arabia.

Google,
Islamic schools in Indonesia Saudi texts books
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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

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These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

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Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 8:57pm

QUESTION;
Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?

ANSWER;
These ISIS 'monsters', day by day, year by year, have been, and are, a creation of the philosophy known as ISLAM [and, of the moslem community].

INDONESIA.....
IS A MOSLEM MAJORITY NATION.....
AND A FRIEND TO AUSTRALIA, AND AUSTRALIANS ???

DON'T BE SO SURE!

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Jakarta Post’s editor faces blasphemy charge for cartoon mocking Islamic State
Dec 12, 2014 04:00 am | Robert Spencer

Meidyatama Suryodiningrat said: “What we produced was a journalistic piece that criticised the ISIS movement, which has carried out violence in the name of religion.”.........

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Jakarta Post’s editor faces blasphemy charge, for what again ?

For mocking ISIS!!!!!

But i thought that many moslem nations [like Indonesia] have been claiming that ISIS was un-ISLAMIC ?????????

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

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These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

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Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 9:04pm

Afghanistan: Jihad suicide bomber attacks play condemning suicide bombings
Dec 12, 2014 02:44 am | Robert Spencer

Because it “insulted Islamic values.”.........

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Why ['insulted'] ?

Don't the 'nice' moslems tell us, that [to ISLAM] such attacks are abhorrent and not permitted by ISLAM ?i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

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Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 9:10pm

Islamic State jihad suicide bomber murders 12 Shi’ite militia fighters
Dec 11, 2014 03:45 pm | Robert Spencer

It’s all in the Qur’an: “Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah , so they kill and are killed.” (9:111)

“Islamic State suicide bombing kills 12 Shi’ite militia fighters,”........

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Allah Akbar!!!! Allah Akbar!!!!

Good moslems, killing moslem IMPERSONATORS!!!!

Always has it been thus. :P

I am the real moslem!!!!
You are the infidel!!!!!!
Die!!!!!!!
Allah Akbar!!!! Allah Akbar!!!! Allah Akbar!!!!i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

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Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 9:16pm

Jihadi from Scotland: “Read the Koran…Find out what is jihad”
Dec 11, 2014 01:33 pm | Robert Spencer

John Kerry and the rest would have us believe that Abdul Raqib Amin read the Qur’an and thoroughly misunderstood it — and in exactly the same way as thousands of other Muslims who have, like him, gone to fight for the Islamic State.........

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Allah Akbar!!!! Allah Akbar!!!!

THE KORAN......

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29ii

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

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Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 14^th, 2014 at 11:41am

QUESTION;
Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?

ANSWER;
These ISIS 'monsters', day by day, year by year, have been, and are, a creation of the philosophy known as ISLAM [and, of the moslem community].

Malaysian ISLAMIC scholars reveal that their view of ISLAMIC law, is in alignment with ISIS and Boko Haram and Al-Nusra and Al-Qaeda, et al. [.....at the very least, so far as music is concerned]

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Malaysia: Islamic scholars say playing guitar and piano against Islamic law
Dec 11, 2014 04:13 am | Robert Spencer

This is why Cat Stevens gave up music when he became Yusuf Islam, although his return to music suggests that these prohibitions can be set aside for purposes of dawah.

In any case, this prohibition is not limited to Malaysian Islamic scholars, as it is founded on the hadiths........

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PREDICTION;
As ISIS garners more and more 'public' credibility and prestige within the worldwide community of moslems, [i predict that] the legal systems within every moslem majority nation will [either slowly or quickly] 'morph' towards a more 'perfect' compliance with the traditional [or, should i said 'fundamental'] dictates of ISLAMIC law.

i.e.
When the political wind changes, the character of the moslem 'next door' will change.

When Allah provides the 'opportunity', the [so called] moderate moslem [who lives 'next door'] will morph before your eyes, into a very 'strident', 'devout' moslem.

Malaysia is a moslem majority nation.

So is Indonesia.

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

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Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 14^th, 2014 at 11:49am

Madrid’s largest mosque was jihad recruitment center led by ex-Gitmo prisoner
Dec 12, 2014 02:17 pm | Robert Spencer

A mosque?

What?

A center of peaceful worship in accord with the peaceful Qur’an of the Religion of Peace?

How could this be?

Why didn’t the vast majority of peaceful Muslims rise up and throw out these misunderstanders of Islam who were busy twisting and hijacking their peaceful religion?

“Madrid mosque was used to recruit........

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Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

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Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 14^th, 2014 at 11:56am

Syria: Islamic jihadists using UN cars for jihad terror operations
Dec 12, 2014 01:46 pm | Robert Spencer

The UN has denounced this.

On the other hand, the UN denounced the storage of Hamas jihad rockets in its Gaza schools, but did nothing to stop it,

and even gave the rockets back to Hamas after they were found.

The UN is a disgrace........

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The UN is a corrupt, enabler organisation for ISLAMISTS around the world - funded by many Western nations.i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

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Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:49am

Germans Rise Up Against Islamization
by Soeren Kern • December 13, 2014 at 5:00 am

There is a mounting public backlash over what many perceive as the government's indifference to the growing influence of Islam in German society....

"Many people in Germany have legitimate concerns about the spread of radical Islamic ideology,

which promotes violence against non-Muslims, robs women and girls of their natural rights,

and seeks to require the application of Sharia law.......

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Don't those moslems, who are living in Germany, understand that Germany is not, does not [traditionally] have, an ISLAMIC cultural base ?

And where are all of the 'moderate' moslems in Germany, those moslems who reject the ISLAMIC supremacism [which is inherent, and encouraged, within ISLAMIC law [e.g. Koran 9.29] ] ?i

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

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Title: Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Post by Yadda on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:00am

Australia: Two Muslimas flee to Islamic State to become jihadi brides
Dec 13, 2014 11:10 pm | Robert Spencer

“It’s a deeply disturbing phenomenon,’’ said Foreign Minister Julie Bishop.

But does she have any interest in exploring why it is happening, and coming to grips with the appeal of the concept of the caliphate?

Probably not, as that would require acknowledging that the Islamic State had something to do with Islam,.......

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Moslems in Australia = = ISIS in Australia.

When we discover what moslems [who are living here in Australia] are doing behind closed doors [watch the YT video below], we can see that it is true that;

Moslems in Australia = = ISIS in Australia.

But can we ever expect a person like, Foreign Minister Julie Bishop, to acknowledge that truth ?

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Who are 'ISIS' ????????

Quote:

These ISIS monsters, live among us, here, in Australia.

Thank you, Gough Whitlam [and Malcolm Fraser]! >:(

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