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Message started by Yadda on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:34pm

Title: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Yadda on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:34pm

Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids.




In the wake of the raids by ASIO, AFP, and state police today, moslems begin to protest about the persecution of moslems in Australia.

Protestations of moslem 'victimhood' are in full flush, and on display, as Australian authorities are accused by the moslem community of fabricating the reasons for the terror raids, and of trashing the rights of moslems.

!!!!


Responses coming from the moslem community.....


Google;


Australian terror raids were unjust policing

Lakemba protest by Muslims

AN urgent meeting has been called tonight by members of the Muslim community

members of the Muslim community are furious about today’s anti-terror raids in Sydney.

a meeting will be held at Lakemba station in response to what organisers say is the Federal Government’s heavy-handed approach

15 muslims arrested

The Australian government has overnight carried out the biggest anti-terror raids in Australian history.

Muslim families terrorised in the middle of the night, people beaten, and stories of harsh, unjust policing are emerging             [<---- the inflection coming from the moslem community, is that it is the Australian government who are the party, who are guilty of terrorism!]

The Muslim community is the target of these raids and laws,

the climate of hysteria only increases as the government fabricates reasons for these draconian laws.




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There is a lot of information out there already on the WWW, about how the moslem community in Australia, is being 'targeted' by Australian authorities.

The 'slant' is, that the moslems are the victims.

Nothing changes, does it!!!!       :D




Quote:
More than 3000 people have been invited through social media to a protest calling on the Muslim community to stand up against the terrorism raids in Sydney. 18 Sep 2014

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/09/18/police-brace-rally-after-terror-raids





Quote:
Australia Muslim leader on terror raids: Government attacking Islam and Muslims
Robert Spencer      Sep 18, 2014
....Once again, we wake up to the sad news of our innocent Muslim brothers being arrested by the Australian authorities, their families being terrorized, their houses being raided, their freedoms being confiscated, their rights abused… This is becoming more than what a sane person can bare.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/australia-muslim-leader-on-terror-raids-government-attacking-islam-and-muslims



Quote:
Terror raids: Radical preacher declares swoop ‘clearly attacking Islam and Muslims’ and asks Allah to ‘destroy those who plot against us’
Geoff Chambers
    The Daily Telegraph
    September 18, 2014

....intelligence agencies were invading “our privacies”.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/terror-raids-radical-preacher-declares-swoop-clearly-attacking-islam-and-muslims-and-asks-allah-to-destroy-those-who-plot-against-us


Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Brian Ross on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:38pm
I see no problem with people protesting against these raids.  They appear to have been, in the usual publicity seeking Hollywood style favoured in such situations rather heavy handed where a pair of PC Plods could have easily achieved the same results with a quiet knock on the door.   ::)

Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:42pm







Quote:
Police remove a sword as part of evidence found at a residential property in the suburb of Marsfield, in Sydney.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/asio-and-hundreds-of-police-raid-sydney-and-brisbane-homes-in-biggest-counterterrorism-raid-in-australias-history/story-fnihsrf2-1227062172180

muslims here have said nothing against extremists.

they have spoke out against law and order

Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by George_Orhell on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:54pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:38pm:
I see no problem with people protesting against these raids.  They appear to have been, in the usual publicity seeking Hollywood style favoured in such situations rather heavy handed where a pair of PC Plods could have easily achieved the same results with a quiet knock on the door.   ::)


I'd have to assume that the rubbish you have posted above, is down to your total ignorance, and/or, you're just posting this utter shite because you are a jihadi/terrorist sympathiser.

One of those taken into custody is being charged with planning to commit a terrorist offence here in Australia.

You obviously have a deep seated hatred of the police, so I wonder how many times have they knocked "quietly" on your door?



Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Datalife on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:57pm

Datalife wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:41pm:
Ha, bugger all indignation and condemnation for ISIS lopping off heads, and what there was had to be looked for, but in the wake of the raids done only this morning the Muslim community can immediately rally in protest at the raids.

See, they can do visible and vocal protestations and present a united front...when it suits them.

No wonder there is such a PR problem with the religion of peace and shuffling feet. 


Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Brian Ross on Sep 18th, 2014 at 8:02pm

George_Orhell wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:38pm:
I see no problem with people protesting against these raids.  They appear to have been, in the usual publicity seeking Hollywood style favoured in such situations rather heavy handed where a pair of PC Plods could have easily achieved the same results with a quiet knock on the door.   ::)


I'd have to assume that the rubbish you have posted above, is down to your total ignorance, and/or, you're just posting this utter shite because you are a jihadi/terrorist sympathiser.

One of those taken into custody is being charged with planning to commit a terrorist offence here in Australia.


Whoopy-do.  What was he planning to do?  Oh, thats right, cut some one's head off.   Why would arresting him be any different from arresting any other person on a murderous rampage?   ::)


Quote:
You obviously have a deep seated hatred of the police, so I wonder how many times have they knocked "quietly" on your door?


I don't hate anybody, George.  I find it remarkable that you claim you can fathom my complete relationship with the constabulary from one posting.  Utterly amazing.  Perhaps you should offer your super powers of observation and deduction to the authorities?  I'm sure they'll be able to put them to some use, somewhere in our forthcoming police state.   ::)

Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by George_Orhell on Sep 18th, 2014 at 8:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 8:02pm:

George_Orhell wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:38pm:
I see no problem with people protesting against these raids.  They appear to have been, in the usual publicity seeking Hollywood style favoured in such situations rather heavy handed where a pair of PC Plods could have easily achieved the same results with a quiet knock on the door.   ::)


I'd have to assume that the rubbish you have posted above, is down to your total ignorance, and/or, you're just posting this utter shite because you are a jihadi/terrorist sympathiser.

One of those taken into custody is being charged with planning to commit a terrorist offence here in Australia.


Whoopy-do.  What was he planning to do?  Oh, thats right, cut some one's head off.   Why would arresting him be any different from arresting any other person on a murderous rampage?   ::)


Quote:
You obviously have a deep seated hatred of the police, so I wonder how many times have they knocked "quietly" on your door?


I don't hate anybody, George.  I find it remarkable that you claim you can fathom my complete relationship with the constabulary from one posting.  Utterly amazing.  Perhaps you should offer your super powers of observation and deduction to the authorities?  I'm sure they'll be able to put them to some use, somewhere in our forthcoming police state.   ::)


You find decapitation funny?

I guess it wouldn't have occurred to the police that these people may have been armed, or in the process of making bombs?

You're a bit of a clown aren't you Brian.......your response illustrates that quite well.


Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Brian Ross on Sep 18th, 2014 at 8:15pm

George_Orhell wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 8:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 8:02pm:

George_Orhell wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:38pm:
I see no problem with people protesting against these raids.  They appear to have been, in the usual publicity seeking Hollywood style favoured in such situations rather heavy handed where a pair of PC Plods could have easily achieved the same results with a quiet knock on the door.   ::)


I'd have to assume that the rubbish you have posted above, is down to your total ignorance, and/or, you're just posting this utter shite because you are a jihadi/terrorist sympathiser.

One of those taken into custody is being charged with planning to commit a terrorist offence here in Australia.


Whoopy-do.  What was he planning to do?  Oh, thats right, cut some one's head off.   Why would arresting him be any different from arresting any other person on a murderous rampage?   ::)


Quote:
You obviously have a deep seated hatred of the police, so I wonder how many times have they knocked "quietly" on your door?


I don't hate anybody, George.  I find it remarkable that you claim you can fathom my complete relationship with the constabulary from one posting.  Utterly amazing.  Perhaps you should offer your super powers of observation and deduction to the authorities?  I'm sure they'll be able to put them to some use, somewhere in our forthcoming police state.   ::)


You find decapitation funny?


Where have I suggested I have?


Quote:
I guess it wouldn't have occurred to the police that these people may have been armed, or in the process of making bombs?


It may have but tell me how making a violent, noisy, aggressive raid would have made any different to that?  Indeed, it could well have made it more likely that they might have decided to claim their 72 virgins immediately.


Quote:
You're a bit of a clown aren't you Brian.......your response illustrates that quite well.


As HB would suggest, "I am glad you don't suffer from Coulrophobia then."

George, I'd suggest you know little about me and even less about real policing.   A quiet approach can often achieve far more than a noisy one.   ::)

Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by George_Orhell on Sep 18th, 2014 at 8:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 8:15pm:

George_Orhell wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 8:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 8:02pm:

George_Orhell wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 7:38pm:
I see no problem with people protesting against these raids.  They appear to have been, in the usual publicity seeking Hollywood style favoured in such situations rather heavy handed where a pair of PC Plods could have easily achieved the same results with a quiet knock on the door.   ::)


I'd have to assume that the rubbish you have posted above, is down to your total ignorance, and/or, you're just posting this utter shite because you are a jihadi/terrorist sympathiser.

One of those taken into custody is being charged with planning to commit a terrorist offence here in Australia.


Whoopy-do.  What was he planning to do?  Oh, thats right, cut some one's head off.   Why would arresting him be any different from arresting any other person on a murderous rampage?   ::)


Quote:
You obviously have a deep seated hatred of the police, so I wonder how many times have they knocked "quietly" on your door?


I don't hate anybody, George.  I find it remarkable that you claim you can fathom my complete relationship with the constabulary from one posting.  Utterly amazing.  Perhaps you should offer your super powers of observation and deduction to the authorities?  I'm sure they'll be able to put them to some use, somewhere in our forthcoming police state.   ::)


You find decapitation funny?


Where have I suggested I have?

[quote]
I guess it wouldn't have occurred to the police that these people may have been armed, or in the process of making bombs?


It may have but tell me how making a violent, noisy, aggressive raid would have made any different to that?  Indeed, it could well have made it more likely that they might have decided to claim their 72 virgins immediately.


Quote:
You're a bit of a clown aren't you Brian.......your response illustrates that quite well.


As HB would suggest, "I am glad you don't suffer from Coulrophobia then."

George, I'd suggest you know little about me and even less about real policing.   A quiet approach can often achieve far more than a noisy one.   ::)[/quote]

Brian, where you are concerned I can only see a mouthy egotist from the general impression your posts give. As far as my knowledge of police and policing, I think it is you who appears to be sadly lacking in that area of law enforcement.

Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Soren on Sep 18th, 2014 at 9:35pm


Hundreds of protesters in Sydney have called on Muslims to stand as one against government aggression.

Signs reading "terror raids cannot break the spirit of Muslims" and "stop terrorising Muslims" were waived by about 10 people among the 200 who rallied in western Sydney to demonstrate against a series of pre-dawn anti-terrorism raids.

The protesters met outside Lakemba train station on Thursday night for the snap action, organised via social media.

About 50 people were watching from across the road.

The event was promoted under a banner featuring the hardline organisation Hizb Ut-Tahrir and is calling on the Muslim community to "stand as one" against "government aggression".

"Women, children should be safe from the terror of the state," they chanted.

The signs had small Hizb Ut-Tahrir Australia logos.

The atmosphere was calm with most people arriving and greeting friends and acquaintances before quietly congregating in a little park next to the train station.

The rally comes after 15 people were detained during Australia's largest counter-terrorism operation.

"We're not hear to disrupt security," Hizb Ut-Tahrir speaker Uthman Badar told the crowd.

"Muslims are as much concerned about security and peace as everyone else."

The Muslim community would be "fools" if they were deceived by the spin being used to politicise security issues, he added.

He said the raids were about creating the "hysteria" needed to make the Muslim community scapegoats.

"We reject the terror laws, they only serve American wars," the crowd chanted before Mr Badar added that western foreign policy was responsible for terrorism.

"We're not fools. We know what the intent with all of this is," he said.

"The people that are leading this, the govt and its agencies ... the world has not seen greater terror that what they have infected around the world."

An incensed young man who said his mother was punched by police as the family's home was raided on Thursday morning yelled at the crowd to "wake up."

"What are you going to do about it? Talk? Seriously? Talk?"

"May Allah curse these dogs."
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/09/18/200-protest-govt-aggression-sydney

Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Yadda on Sep 18th, 2014 at 10:54pm
IMAGE...



"WE MOSLEMS ONLY WANT TO CUT YOUR INFIDEL HEADS OFF!!!

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT!

DOES PRACTISING OUR FREEDOM OF RELIGION, DESERVE TERROR RAIDS !!!!!!!?

NO IT DOES NOT!!!"








Google;
beheading infidels is how allah heals the hearts of believers


Because we infidels force moslems to live in secular Australia [under secular law, instead of Sharia law], moslems are in pain, and they are angry and confused !!!!

Beheading infidels is 'therapy' for angry and confused moslems.

You infidels are so unreasonable, and so, so unjust !           :P

Can't you infidels be a little compassionate to your moslem brothers and - tolerate - the odd, random beheading - FOR THE LOVE OF ALLAH ?







"WE MOSLEMS WANT TO KNOW!!!!!!
....WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO OUR RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF RELIGION!!!!!"


IMAGE...

Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.
Moslems, religious bigots, 'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' and tolerant ISLAM and moslems really are -  towards those who don't hold with the views of ISIS of ISLAM and moslems.

Moslems on a Sydney street, openly demanding their right to exercise their 'freedom of religion',
.....the 'religious' right to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.









ISIS = = Allah's proxies on earth.

Its true!

Honest!         :P


In Syria, a moslem doctor indulges herself, and engages in some moslem 'therapy', to soothe her soul....

IMAGE...

This woman jihadi is just one of many British women who have travelled to Syria and Iraq to be an 'aid worker'      .....so as to give aid to ISIS.




Quote:

UK Muslima, a doctor, happily poses with severed head: “Dream Job”
Sep 10, 2014 09:22 pm | Robert Spencer

Yet another jihadist gets the crazy idea that “when you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks” (Qur’an 47:4) means “when you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks.”

Obviously only someone who knows nothing about Islam could make a mistake like that. And she is a doctor to boot.

Doesn’t Mujahidah bint Usama know that poverty [and persecuting moslems: Yadda] causes terrorism?



http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/uk-muslima-a-doctor-happily-poses-with-severed-head-dream-job


Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:19pm
Why did Australia let them come here?


Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Yadda on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:40pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:19pm:

Why did Australia let them come here?



'I don't know, and i don't care.'




Oh yes, bobby, i meant,        ...that it was all 'accomplished' because of the ignorance and the apathy, of the Australian public, back in the 1970's, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on,      ....ad infinitum.

:)




Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:43pm

Yadda wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:19pm:

Why did Australia let them come here?



'I don't know, and i don't care.'


Oh yes, bobby, i meant,        ...that it was all 'accomplished' because of the ignorance and the apathy, of the Australian public, back in the 1970's.

:)




Who cares about apathy?


(by the way, it's "1970s" - no need for an apostrophe - unless you're saying something belonged to the 1970s)

Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Yadda on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:43pm:

Yadda wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:19pm:

Why did Australia let them come here?



'I don't know, and i don't care.'


Oh yes, bobby, i meant,        ...that it was all 'accomplished' because of the ignorance and the apathy, of the Australian public, back in the 1970's.

:)




Who cares about apathy?


(by the way, it's "1970s" - no need for an apostrophe - unless you're saying something belonged to the 1970s)



Thanks for the grammar correction.


Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Hot Breath on Sep 19th, 2014 at 12:24am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:19pm:
Why did Australia let them come here?


Because there was no reason not to?

Radicalisation is a new phenomena caused by alienation and guess who does the alienating?  Hint: It's not the Muslims.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Soren on Sep 19th, 2014 at 12:32am

|dev|null wrote on Sep 19th, 2014 at 12:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:19pm:
Why did Australia let them come here?


Because there was no reason not to?

Radicalisation is a new phenomena caused by alienation and guess who does the alienating?  Hint: It's not the Muslims.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Yet they continue to want to come and live here.
Why?

Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Brian Ross on Sep 19th, 2014 at 1:16am

Soren wrote on Sep 19th, 2014 at 12:32am:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 19th, 2014 at 12:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:19pm:
Why did Australia let them come here?


Because there was no reason not to?

Radicalisation is a new phenomena caused by alienation and guess who does the alienating?  Hint: It's not the Muslims.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Yet they continue to want to come and live here.
Why?



Good question, particularly considering the welcome they get from people such as yourself, Soren.  Your Islamophobia if known about generally would be rather off-putting don't you think?

Perhaps they are trying to escape from even worse situations in their home countries?  Politically and economically, behind the eight-ball, often persecuted for their religious beliefs, they leap from the frying pan into the fire where you're concerned.  Your religious persecution is but a few steps away from what they often experience every day in their old lands.    ::)

Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Soren on Sep 19th, 2014 at 6:45am
Yeah,  Brain,  the Taliban is the fryinpan but Soren is worse - he is the fire!! !! Mwhoooowww!! !! Run for the hills,  scary man no like Islam,  no like sharia!! !! Worse than death!! :'(!



You are  an emotionally incontinent bedwetter,  Brain.

Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 19th, 2014 at 7:53am

|dev|null wrote on Sep 19th, 2014 at 12:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:19pm:
Why did Australia let them come here?


Because there was no reason not to?

Radicalisation is a new phenomena caused by alienation and guess who does the alienating?  Hint: It's not the Muslims.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


radicalisation is not a new phenomena. The first radical muslim that terrorised people in Ausrt by murder was in broken hill in about 1901.

muslims alienate themselves. By their customs, dress and manner. they are self made aliens.


Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 19th, 2014 at 7:54am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 19th, 2014 at 1:16am:

Soren wrote on Sep 19th, 2014 at 12:32am:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 19th, 2014 at 12:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:19pm:
Why did Australia let them come here?


Because there was no reason not to?

Radicalisation is a new phenomena caused by alienation and guess who does the alienating?  Hint: It's not the Muslims.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Yet they continue to want to come and live here.
Why?



Good question, particularly considering the welcome they get from people such as yourself, Soren.  Your Islamophobia if known about generally would be rather off-putting don't you think?

Perhaps they are trying to escape from even worse situations in their home countries?  Politically and economically, behind the eight-ball, often persecuted for their religious beliefs, they leap from the frying pan into the fire where you're concerned.  Your religious persecution is but a few steps away from what they often experience every day in their old lands.    ::)


islam is not a religion.
it is an armed political movement that will use any method to achieve its goals.

Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by Hot Breath on Sep 19th, 2014 at 11:32am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 19th, 2014 at 7:53am:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 19th, 2014 at 12:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:19pm:
Why did Australia let them come here?


Because there was no reason not to?

Radicalisation is a new phenomena caused by alienation and guess who does the alienating?  Hint: It's not the Muslims.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


radicalisation is not a new phenomena. The first radical muslim that terrorised people in Ausrt by murder was in broken hill in about 1901.


Wrong.  Try again.  Your year is over a decade wrong!


Quote:
muslims alienate themselves. By their customs, dress and manner. they are self made aliens.


I work with several Muslims, you'd have a hard time picking them from anybody else.   You find it easier to think in stereotypes don't you?  Makes your Islamophobia easier.   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D

Title: Re: Moslem voices begin to protest the terror raids
Post by jockohomo3d on Sep 19th, 2014 at 11:35am
So would these muslim protesters be happy if ASIO didn't investigate terror plots?? Aren't we allowed to protect ourselves from these loonies??

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