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Message started by Ahovking on Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:04pm

Title: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by Ahovking on Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:04pm

Quote:
Incest a 'fundamental right', German committee says

Anti-incest laws in Germany could be scraped after a government-backed group said relationships between brothers and sisters should be legal

aws banning incest between brothers and sisters in Germany could be scraped after a government ethics committee said the they were an unacceptable intrusion into the right to sexual self-determination.

“Criminal law is not the appropriate means to preserve a social taboo,” the German Ethics Council said in a statement. “The fundamental right of adult siblings to sexual self-determination is to be weighed more heavily than the abstract idea of protection of the family.”

Their intervention follows a notorious case in which a brother and sister living as partners in Saxony had four children together. The couple had been raised separately and only met when the brother, identified only as Patrick S, was an adult, and his sister Susan K was 16.

Patrick S was sentenced to more than three years in prison for incest and the couple have since failed in their bid to have the guilty verdict overturned by the European Court of Human Rights.

The family was forced to live apart after the courts ruled that there was a duty to protect their children from the consequences of their relationship.

Two of the couple’s children are disabled, and it is believed that incest carries a higher risk of resulting in children with genetic abnormalities.

But the Ethics Council dismissed that argument, on the basis that other genetically affected couples are not banned from having children.

The Council said it based its recommendation on extensive research, in which it found many incestuous couples are forced to live in secret.

In one case, it found a woman was being blackmailed by the her father and ex-husband, who threatened to depive her of access to her children unless she ended a new relationship with her half-brother.

Incest remains illegal in the UK and most European countries, although France abolished its incest laws under Napoleon I and there has been growing debate over the taboo in Germany.

Around two to four per cent of Germans have had “incestuous experiences”, according to an estimate by the Max Planck Institute.
But a spokeswoman for Angela Merkel’s ruling Christian Democrats indicated the government was unlikely to adopt the Ethics Council’s recommendations.'

“The abolition of the offense of incest between siblings would be the wrong signal,” said Elisabeth Winkelmeier-Becker, legal policy spokeswoman for the party’s group in parliament.

“Eliminating the threat of punishment against incestuous acts within families would run counter to the protection of undisturbed development for children.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11119062/Incest-a-fundamental-right-German-committee-says.html


Like gay acceptance and marriage, it will be a long road but in no time, you will be able to marry your sister or brother as its your basic human right. Incest between brother and sister, father and daughter or mother or son will be celebrated as a triumph of human rights, oh i bet left are over joy with this news. 

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by bogarde73 on Sep 25th, 2014 at 2:19pm
Well they've been working hard for it for a long long time, probably as long as 1791.

It's all part of life's long journey towards chaos.

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by athos on Sep 25th, 2014 at 3:52pm
Animal brothels legal in Denmark
COUNTRIES, DENMARK, GENERAL, MBL, NORWAY

Laws in both Denmark and Norway are fairly open when it comes to a person’s legal right to engage in sexual activity with an animal. The law states that doing so is perfectly legal, so long as the animal involved does not suffer. According to the Danish newspaper 24timer, this interesting gap in the law has led to a flourishing business in which people pay in order to have sex with animals.

On the internet, several Danish animal owners openly advertise their services. The newspaper contacted several such individuals and was told that many of the animals have been engaged in this kind of activity for several years and that the animals crave the sexual stimulation. The newspaper found that the cost charged by the animal owners varied from DKK 500 to 1,000 (USD$85 to $170).

http://www.icenews.is/2008/05/20/animal-brothels-legal-in-denmark/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8iGzCia-QY

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 25th, 2014 at 3:59pm

Pantheon wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:04pm:
Like gay acceptance and marriage ...



Incest is nothing like gay acceptance and marriage.

What have you been smoking?



Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 25th, 2014 at 4:05pm

Pantheon wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:04pm:
[quote]Incest a 'fundamental right', German committee says

Anti-incest laws in Germany could be scraped after a government-backed group said relationships between brothers and sisters should be legal

Laws banning incest between brothers and sisters in Germany could be scraped after a government ethics committee said the they were an unacceptable intrusion into the right to sexual self-determination.




How does one scrape a law?    :-/



Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by cods on Sep 25th, 2014 at 4:05pm

athos wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 3:52pm:
Animal brothels legal in Denmark
COUNTRIES, DENMARK, GENERAL, MBL, NORWAY

Laws in both Denmark and Norway are fairly open when it comes to a person’s legal right to engage in sexual activity with an animal. The law states that doing so is perfectly legal, so long as the animal involved does not suffer. According to the Danish newspaper 24timer, this interesting gap in the law has led to a flourishing business in which people pay in order to have sex with animals.

On the internet, several Danish animal owners openly advertise their services. The newspaper contacted several such individuals and was told that many of the animals have been engaged in this kind of activity for several years and that the animals crave the sexual stimulation. The newspaper found that the cost charged by the animal owners varied from DKK 500 to 1,000 (USD$85 to $170).

http://www.icenews.is/2008/05/20/animal-brothels-legal-in-denmark/



why would anyone want to know that?.. urrrrrrrrrrrrgh

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by Taipan on Sep 25th, 2014 at 4:08pm

Pantheon wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Quote:
Incest a 'fundamental right', German committee says

Anti-incest laws in Germany could be scraped after a government-backed group said relationships between brothers and sisters should be legal

aws banning incest between brothers and sisters in Germany could be scraped after a government ethics committee said the they were an unacceptable intrusion into the right to sexual self-determination.

“Criminal law is not the appropriate means to preserve a social taboo,” the German Ethics Council said in a statement. “The fundamental right of adult siblings to sexual self-determination is to be weighed more heavily than the abstract idea of protection of the family.”

Their intervention follows a notorious case in which a brother and sister living as partners in Saxony had four children together. The couple had been raised separately and only met when the brother, identified only as Patrick S, was an adult, and his sister Susan K was 16.

Patrick S was sentenced to more than three years in prison for incest and the couple have since failed in their bid to have the guilty verdict overturned by the European Court of Human Rights.

The family was forced to live apart after the courts ruled that there was a duty to protect their children from the consequences of their relationship.

Two of the couple’s children are disabled, and it is believed that incest carries a higher risk of resulting in children with genetic abnormalities.

But the Ethics Council dismissed that argument, on the basis that other genetically affected couples are not banned from having children.

The Council said it based its recommendation on extensive research, in which it found many incestuous couples are forced to live in secret.

In one case, it found a woman was being blackmailed by the her father and ex-husband, who threatened to depive her of access to her children unless she ended a new relationship with her half-brother.

Incest remains illegal in the UK and most European countries, although France abolished its incest laws under Napoleon I and there has been growing debate over the taboo in Germany.

Around two to four per cent of Germans have had “incestuous experiences”, according to an estimate by the Max Planck Institute.
But a spokeswoman for Angela Merkel’s ruling Christian Democrats indicated the government was unlikely to adopt the Ethics Council’s recommendations.'

“The abolition of the offense of incest between siblings would be the wrong signal,” said Elisabeth Winkelmeier-Becker, legal policy spokeswoman for the party’s group in parliament.

“Eliminating the threat of punishment against incestuous acts within families would run counter to the protection of undisturbed development for children.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11119062/Incest-a-fundamental-right-German-committee-says.html


Like gay acceptance and marriage, it will be a long road but in no time, you will be able to marry your sister or brother as its your basic human right. Incest between brother and sister, father and daughter or mother or son will be celebrated as a triumph of human rights, oh i bet left are over joy with this news. 


The hypocrisy is breath taking when you consider the law in Germany was used to create a social taboo, i.e. don't question the holocaust.

Furthermore, this along with the up and coming acceptance of paedophilia are some of many of the 'new norms' the Elite are bringing into society. Its purpose is to degrade a society. A society that doesn't have morals and values and taboos is weak society that can be manipulated into doing anything, even accept its own demise. Welcome to the New World Order.

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by athos on Sep 25th, 2014 at 4:08pm

cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 4:05pm:

athos wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 3:52pm:
Animal brothels legal in Denmark
COUNTRIES, DENMARK, GENERAL, MBL, NORWAY

Laws in both Denmark and Norway are fairly open when it comes to a person’s legal right to engage in sexual activity with an animal. The law states that doing so is perfectly legal, so long as the animal involved does not suffer. According to the Danish newspaper 24timer, this interesting gap in the law has led to a flourishing business in which people pay in order to have sex with animals.

On the internet, several Danish animal owners openly advertise their services. The newspaper contacted several such individuals and was told that many of the animals have been engaged in this kind of activity for several years and that the animals crave the sexual stimulation. The newspaper found that the cost charged by the animal owners varied from DKK 500 to 1,000 (USD$85 to $170).

http://www.icenews.is/2008/05/20/animal-brothels-legal-in-denmark/



why would anyone want to know that?.. urrrrrrrrrrrrgh


This is Europe.

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 25th, 2014 at 4:14pm

Taipan wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 4:08pm:
Furthermore, this along with the up and coming acceptance of paedophilia ...



That didn't take long.

No surprise that it was you who took us there.



Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by athos on Sep 25th, 2014 at 4:27pm
New Zealand allows intercourse with sheep in farm brothels specially designed for tourists .

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by Setanta on Sep 25th, 2014 at 5:59pm

athos wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 4:08pm:

cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 4:05pm:

athos wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 3:52pm:
Animal brothels legal in Denmark
COUNTRIES, DENMARK, GENERAL, MBL, NORWAY

Laws in both Denmark and Norway are fairly open when it comes to a person’s legal right to engage in sexual activity with an animal. The law states that doing so is perfectly legal, so long as the animal involved does not suffer. According to the Danish newspaper 24timer, this interesting gap in the law has led to a flourishing business in which people pay in order to have sex with animals.

On the internet, several Danish animal owners openly advertise their services. The newspaper contacted several such individuals and was told that many of the animals have been engaged in this kind of activity for several years and that the animals crave the sexual stimulation. The newspaper found that the cost charged by the animal owners varied from DKK 500 to 1,000 (USD$85 to $170).

http://www.icenews.is/2008/05/20/animal-brothels-legal-in-denmark/



why would anyone want to know that?.. urrrrrrrrrrrrgh


This is Europe.


Perhaps this is why Aquascoot wants to import more Danes and Swedes... ;D

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by eagle eyes on Sep 25th, 2014 at 6:34pm

athos wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 4:08pm:

cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 4:05pm:

athos wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 3:52pm:
Animal brothels legal in Denmark
COUNTRIES, DENMARK, GENERAL, MBL, NORWAY

Laws in both Denmark and Norway are fairly open when it comes to a person’s legal right to engage in sexual activity with an animal. The law states that doing so is perfectly legal, so long as the animal involved does not suffer. According to the Danish newspaper 24timer, this interesting gap in the law has led to a flourishing business in which people pay in order to have sex with animals.

On the internet, several Danish animal owners openly advertise their services. The newspaper contacted several such individuals and was told that many of the animals have been engaged in this kind of activity for several years and that the animals crave the sexual stimulation. The newspaper found that the cost charged by the animal owners varied from DKK 500 to 1,000 (USD$85 to $170).

http://www.icenews.is/2008/05/20/animal-brothels-legal-in-denmark/



why would anyone want to know that?.. urrrrrrrrrrrrgh


This is Europe.


No this is not Europe. You clearly haven't lived there.
That's a very small minority of idiots. The difference is that Europeans don't jump up and scream out every time someone does something they don't agree with, unlike Americans and Aussies...

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by Ahovking on Sep 26th, 2014 at 8:12am
Fair or not, We had very strict rules when it comes to relationships, but to accommodating homosexuality we have broken our strict cultural rules and the result has we had warned is the growing tied of Incest, beastaulity being seen as a fundamental right, and we warn the next thing will be pedophelia.

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by Soren on Sep 26th, 2014 at 8:20am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 3:59pm:

Pantheon wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:04pm:
Like gay acceptance and marriage ...



Incest is nothing like gay acceptance and marriage.

Of course it is - a deviance seeking legitimacy.
Not long now for gay brothers demanding the right to marry.

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by John Smith on Sep 26th, 2014 at 8:22am
whats really worrying is the number of people obsessed with incest ...  see a shrink!

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by Ahovking on Sep 26th, 2014 at 3:37pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 8:22am:
whats really worrying is the number of people obsessed with incest ...  see a shrink!


Someone could find the number of people obsessed with Homosexuality as worrisome, your discriminating against someones who like Homosexuality was born with it?




Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 26th, 2014 at 4:32pm

Soren wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 8:20am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 3:59pm:

Pantheon wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:04pm:
Like gay acceptance and marriage ...



Incest is nothing like gay acceptance and marriage.

Of course it is - a deviance seeking legitimacy.
Not long now for gay brothers demanding the right to marry.



Ah, of course.

And what about animals?

Not long now before gay sisters will be asking to marry their horses.




Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by John Smith on Sep 26th, 2014 at 9:55pm

Pantheon wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 3:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 8:22am:
whats really worrying is the number of people obsessed with incest ...  see a shrink!


Someone could find the number of people obsessed with Homosexuality as worrisome, your discriminating against someones who like Homosexuality was born with it?


Homosexuality is legal, incest isn't ...

try again

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by Freedumb on Sep 26th, 2014 at 10:02pm
All of the royal families of Europe are incest/inbred.

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by JaSin on Sep 26th, 2014 at 10:17pm

@ GregerryPeccary's "Went full retard and never won an Oscar."


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;D   ;D 

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by Karnal on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:56am
I blame Islam.

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by Brian Ross on Sep 27th, 2014 at 1:32am

Soren wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 8:20am:
Of course it is - a deviance seeking legitimacy.
Not long now for gay brothers demanding the right to marry.


You know, being counselled by you as a trick cyclist must be a real barrel of laughs, Soren.   How many of your patients commit suicide because of your judgemental attitudes?   ::)

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Sep 27th, 2014 at 7:08am

John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 8:22am:
whats really worrying is the number of people obsessed with incest ...  see a shrink!

What's really really worrying is ahovking can't define what the right stand for  :D :D

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by Ahovking on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:16pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 9:55pm:

Pantheon wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 3:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 8:22am:
whats really worrying is the number of people obsessed with incest ...  see a shrink!


Someone could find the number of people obsessed with Homosexuality as worrisome, your discriminating against someones who like Homosexuality was born with it?


Homosexuality is legal, incest isn't ...

try again


But is that fair? someone is born Homosexuality, just like some is born attracted to incest? so like we don't have a right to denied someone the right to be Homosexual, we dont have the right to denied someone incest.

If you comdeming incest as a danger or a threat then you can be compare to people 100 years ago who said the same thing about Homosexuality.

Remember lefty, its all about human rights and equality.

Title: Re: And it begins "Incest a fundamental right"
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Sep 27th, 2014 at 4:29pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 9:55pm:

Pantheon wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 3:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 8:22am:
whats really worrying is the number of people obsessed with incest ...  see a shrink!


Someone could find the number of people obsessed with Homosexuality as worrisome, your discriminating against someones who like Homosexuality was born with it?


Homosexuality is legal, incest isn't ...

try again


And how long has Homosexuality been legal for exactly, and in how many countries?
Once one perversion has been legalised, you would have to be blind freddy not to understand that soon after, the other groups representing their perverse brand of sexual freedom lobby for their human rights and equality too.
After all, we're all human eh.
If incest was legalised, would you still take the same position that legality makes it all ok?
You don't want to be called an Incestophobe do you?

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