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Message started by Sprintcyclist on Sep 26th, 2014 at 10:38am

Title: The emotion of hate
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 26th, 2014 at 10:38am

Why do people so .......... decry someone when thye use the 'HATE' word.

Is it invalid ??

btw - this thread is here so I can delete any posts that are abusive or off thread.
I hate people that do that.

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 26th, 2014 at 10:47am

If someone is so consumed with hate, it's often a sign of an underlying problem with that individual.

I find it quite sad.

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Black Orchid on Sep 26th, 2014 at 2:08pm
Hate is a soul destroying and negative emotion.  We all make our own choices on what we do in life and how we act and react.  Hate just holds you back and is just another branch of fear.  I think it's sad also.

"If only we would love what we love with as much passion as those who hate what they hate"  -  Unknown

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by imbetterthanyou on Sep 26th, 2014 at 2:41pm
yes, hate is a useless emotion. There are people i would willingly shoot in the head if able to but I dont hate them.

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 26th, 2014 at 9:35pm
and those who were happy to abuse and stalk me over my hate threads elsewhere are unwilling to post here.

As I will not accept abuse offtopic remarks.

And I will follow the protocol to have you banned.


Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 26th, 2014 at 9:42pm
john smiths posting deleted as trolling and offtopic

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Freedumb on Sep 26th, 2014 at 9:48pm
Hate and any acts born of hatred, are actually more harmful to the individual than the person/group/belief/object that they direct said hatred at.
For example, it is time and energy consuming to extend the hatred from inside to the outside world, when the time and energy could have been preserved and used for something good or productive, that can benefit the individual.
For instance, I've noticed things on this forum like people making fake accounts to pull the p!ss out of somebody, or creating threads with "insults" about a person. What a waste of time and energy!! Considering we don't really know each other here, but by username and what we type.

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 26th, 2014 at 10:10pm


Quote:
.......... “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are...............


Matthew 23:13-15

Now, does anyone read ........compassion into those quotes ?

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 26th, 2014 at 10:16pm


Quote:
..... “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers.
Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. ...


Matthew 23:33-35

At times, for reason, it seems just for one to be 'passionate'.

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:04am
1 John, 4/20 "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?"

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:06am
1 John 3/15

"Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him".

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:09am


Leviticus 19:17

“You shall not hate your brother in your heart, but you shall reason frankly with your neighbor, lest you incur sin because of him".

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:14am
What follows are the words of Jesus (Son of God) according to the Gospel of John 13:34-35

"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:16am


1 John 2:9

"Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness".

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:18am


1 John 2:11

"But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes."

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:31pm

Baronvonrort s posting deleted for abuse

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:32pm

people I hate are not my brothers

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Sappho on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:49pm

ian wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 2:41pm:
yes, hate is a useless emotion. There are people i would willingly shoot in the head if able to but I dont hate them.


I question that premise of yours... Is it a useless emotion? I acknowledge that is is a negative emotion, but equally it is a passionate emotion and passion aids purpose and drive.

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 27th, 2014 at 4:05pm
Matthew 5   KJV




Quote:
[43] Ye have heard that it hath been said,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

[44] But I say unto you, Love your enemies,
bless them that curse you,
do good to them that hate you,
and pray for them which despitefully use you,
and persecute you;

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 27th, 2014 at 4:15pm
Luke 6  KJV



Quote:

[27] But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,

[28] Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Dnarever on Sep 27th, 2014 at 4:37pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2014 at 12:32pm:
people I hate are not my brothers


Sisters, cousins, uncles parents, neighbours  there is too much hate expressed here.

Some of it a lot of people seem to agree with, it seems that hate you agree with is just common sense and it is only hate that people disagree with that is a problem.

I seem to be told regularly that I hate things that I don't hate which I find to be a bit strange.

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Phemanderac on Sep 29th, 2014 at 7:27am
It would seem that, according the gospel you articulate at least, that the people you hate are, in point of fact, your brothers and sisters...Given that the "gospels" refer to all humanity as your brothers and sisters.

Further, hating, as has been pointed out, is just another emotion. As such it is as normal to hate as it is to love. Yet, despite the "feeling" we as a presumable sentient species can also make choices. So to hate = normal, to act on said hate = a choice... The same as any emotion.

Now, for the main part we do not accept someone acting in a socially unacceptable manner because of how they "felt at the time", even if we may be able to relate to how they "felt".

So, to sprout forth a feeling of hate and couple that with actions - I for one, would respectfully suggest that is what I would speak out against. Not so much how you feel, but how you would express demonstrating that feeling.

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 29th, 2014 at 7:53am
phem - yes, to couple hate with an action would be wrong.
the action is wrong.

To express hate of a murderous movement and people ........... is right.

not all humanity are my brothers and sisters. Not at all.
I know who my family are.

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 29th, 2014 at 7:57am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 7:53am:
phem - yes, to couple hate with an action would be wrong.
the action is wrong.

To express hate of a murderous movement and people ........... is right.

not all humanity are my brothers and sisters. Not at all.
I know who my family are.



Sounds like a play on words.

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by Phemanderac on Sep 29th, 2014 at 8:51am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 7:53am:
phem - yes, to couple hate with an action would be wrong.
the action is wrong.

To express hate of a murderous movement and people ........... is right.

not all humanity are my brothers and sisters. Not at all.
I know who my family are.


Actually, as challenging as it may be, I endeavour to separate behaviours from people, for example if my brother does something that I despise, it is his actions that I hate, whilst most definitely not hating him as a person.

Hating people, to my mind is, of itself a form of acting on hate. Disagreeing about, perspective, beliefs, politics and even actions needs to (excuse the pun) kept in perspective. When we fail to separate people from their behaviours - that is when we get into the realms of the unresolvable.

That said, please do not for one minute confuse my position with one of not accepting consequences. As to the consequences though, most human initiated consequences are punitive and, therefore, revenge based. You know, they are always the ones that are underlined with "teaching someone a lesson...." Clearly, they never do though, or at least not the lesson articulated.

Title: Re: The emotion of hate
Post by PZ547 on Oct 1st, 2014 at 11:53pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 10:38am:
Why do people so .......... decry someone when thye use the 'HATE' word.

Is it invalid ??

btw - this thread is here so I can delete any posts that are abusive or off thread.
I hate people that do that.



It's my opinion that 'hate' is simply shorthand to mean a great number of things

I've no problem with the word 'hate'.  It's shorthand as is the word 'love'.  And we use both all the time just as we understand what people mean when they claim to 'hate' or 'love' something

The word 'haters' on the other hand is used as verbal blackmail to silence the opinions of others under the guise of PC or whatever nonsense proliferates at the time



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