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Message started by Yadda on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 9:32am

Title: A coterie of Islamic scholars have condemned ISIS
Post by Yadda on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 9:32am


An international coterie of Islamic scholars [aka 'moderate moslems'] have condemned ISIS.




But, in their declaration, these very same 'moderate moslems' have 'unintentionally' and 'inadvertently' also endorsed;
jihad warfare,
dhimmitude,
stoning for adultery,
amputation for theft,
the death penalty for apostasy,
and the necessity of the caliphate.

"There is nothing to see here. Move on. Move on....."




So lets not look at that part !!!

Lets all, just look at this part;     ---------->

An international coterie of Islamic scholars [aka moderate moslems] have condemned ISIS.   !!!!!!

See!  See!         We all knew it, its true!!!!! ;

'ISLAM is peace!'                :D








Quote:

6 Elements of ‘Extremist’ Islam That ‘Moderate’ Muslims Endorsed as They Condemned the Islamic State
Robert Spencer      Sep 30, 2014

Hamas-linked CAIR and an international coterie of Islamic scholars condemned the Islamic State. In doing so, they endorsed jihad warfare, dhimmitude, stoning for adultery, amputation for theft, the death penalty for apostasy, and the necessity of the caliphate.....

    At last, moderate Islam! The Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the Fiqh Council of North America held a press conference in Washington on Wednesday at which they announced with great fanfare that they had refuted the religious ideology of the Islamic State. They issued this lengthy “open letter” (not, interestingly enough, a fatwa) addressed to the Islamic State’s caliph Ibrahim, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, explaining how he was misunderstanding Islam.

[BUT.....] In fact, the “moderates” who signed on to this open letter have ended up endorsing elements of Islam that most non-Muslim Westerners consider to be “extremist.”



http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/robert-spencer-in-pj-media-6-elements-of-extremist-islam-that-moderate-muslims-endorsed-as-they-condemned-the-islamic-state
http://pjmedia.com/blog/6-elements-of-extremist-islam-that-moderate-muslims-endorsed-as-they-condemned-the-islamic-state/?singlepage=true


Title: Re: A coterie of Islamic scholars have condemned ISIS
Post by Yadda on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 9:40am

But isn't it incongruous and isn't it very unusual, to witness moslems [anywhere] condemn another group of moslems [i.e. ISIS and its leadership] ?

Isn't it wrong [and, un-ISLAMIC!!!!], and potentially very 'disruptive', for a moslem to condemn other moslems ?

Yes it is.



A public and homogeneous affinity among moslems is paramount.

And it is often declared, among moslems,      ....among the 'brothers'.

As is DEMONSTRATED here, by a UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

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KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4






But there are exceptions to this homogeneous affinity and 'mutual love' that is always seen, among all moslems [of the same faction].

For example, where any group of moslems [#1] [e.g. ISIS] poses an existential threat to another group of moslems [#2], then you can expect to see open conflict between those different moslem 'camps'.

And in ISIS, we see a distinct group of moslems, that has 'come to power' [as pure moslems], demonstrating its LAWFUL ISLAMIC policy to slaughter apostate moslems, even those apostate moslems who ostensibly belong to its own moslem faction [i.e. Sunnis]!!


"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260



So that in this 'circumstance' [ISIS 'coming to power'], ISIS has become an existential threat to every group of moslems within Syria and Iraq, Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc, etc, even to those 'moslems' who ostensibly belong to ISIS own moslem faction [i.e. the Sunnis].




The truth is that in the real 'ISLAMIC' world, every distinct moslem ISLAMIC group, is in competition with and against, every other distinct ISLAMIC group.

Each and every distinct ISLAMIC group [separated by distance from each other], will assert that - they only - are the true expression of pure ISLAM.

And therefore it is they alone, who have the right to both subjugate and to rule over every other ISLAMIC group [....even those moslems who ostensibly belong their own moslem faction].

It is true!           :)


Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1410694482/49#49

Quote:

Every moslem ISLAMIC group, is in competition with every other ISLAMIC group.

There have been wars among moslems, since 2 minutes after Mohammed died.

Hamas, ISIS, Taleban and Boko Haram, all proffer themselves to the 'moslem street', individually, as the true expression of ISLAM.



And so do the Saudis, and the Iranians.



The truth is that moslems form alliances, with those they hate, against those they hate even more!!!

ISIS and Al-Qaeda are COMPETITORS for the 'moslem street' !!!!!

The Saudis and Al-Qaeda are COMPETITORS for the 'moslem street' !!!!!

And so it is, with every moslem group.

Even moslem groups resident within Australia, tell us, that they are the true expression of ISLAM.

And if they had the means and the opportunity, those very moslem groups resident within Australia, would be slaughtering each other - AND US.



It is true!           :)

WAKE UP.




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