Islam was always waiting to make it's numbers up in the West before it made a move. It was always going to act as the victim until it had a reasonable force of muslims behind it (immigrants/refugees/marriages/family etc)before it could attempt the first stage of the process which was division. Division of the "critical thinking masses". The fact that we allow ourselves to critisise ourselves is our downfall, and don't they know it. The very thing that seperates us from them is the ability to reason,compensate,forgive,restrain etc, I say this because although our Christian freedom has allowed us to even doubt Jesus,God, the Bible it has also allowed us to DOUBT OURSELVES...AND THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE RELYING ON..
You see, being able to reason doesn't make you a reasonable person, being able to judge does not make you experienced, and so, forgiving the devil because your Christian beliefs tell you to forgive is of course rather pointless.
If you believe in the Bible then for your own and the Worlds sake believe it when it says:

"Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves."

Matthew 7:15

Mo was forewarned and even the PC's were prophesised in the Bible.

Whilst you make yourself feel better by trading insults and treating it as a political debate then they own you.

Nice conspiracy...   ::)

Conspiracy Brian?...surely a conspiracy is a secret?..it's hardly that anymore?

brumbie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 11:34pm:

Conspiracy Brian?...surely a conspiracy is a secret?..it's hardly that anymore?

It's a conspiracy theory based on flimsy evidence.  Mohammed was on the Grassy Knoll was he?   ;D

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 11:45pm:

It's a conspiracy theory based on flimsy evidence

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

But Brian, YOU are the one that called it a conspiracy

;D ;D ;D ;D

brumbie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 12:02am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2014 at 11:45pm: It's a conspiracy theory based on flimsy evidence ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D But Brian, YOU are the one that called it a conspiracy ;D ;D ;D ;D

So?   You going to answer my question as to the whereabouts of Muhammed on November 22, 1963?   Mmmm?    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 1:01pm:

So?   You going to answer my question as to the whereabouts of Muhammed on November 22, 1963?

Inside about a billion heads, probably 70% of which could not read or write.

Also about ten thousand Hindu died in Narayangonj and Dhaka. In 1963!

http://www.asiantribune.com/index.php?q=node/6656

Sorry I forgot ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 1:01pm:

brumbie wrote on Oct 11th, 2014 at 12:02am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2014 at 11:45pm: It's a conspiracy theory based on flimsy evidence ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D But Brian, YOU are the one that called it a conspiracy ;D ;D ;D ;D So?   You going to answer my question as to the whereabouts of Muhammed on November 22, 1963?   Mmmm?    ::)

Anything to contribute other than your usual smiley faces?

Nah! Thought not.

's funny, you know. You can pick the nostril hairs about many points in debate but you absolutely refuse to acknowledge that Islam presents a problem in the modern world - just like it did in the ancient world.

You're a knowledgeable person, Brian, what gives with this selective blindness? You've read history, don't you read the news?

You might dismiss this recent undercurrent of Islamic rhetoric, but I surely don't.

But you can rest easy, Brian, because I'm quite sure that today's emasculated societies have become incapable of producing another Martel.

The only solace I have is that I will be worm food before the next biggie kicks off.

So, can I say it now?

I TOLD YOU SO!

Enjoy Sharia, boys!

Adamant wrote on Oct 13^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2014 at 1:01pm: So?   You going to answer my question as to the whereabouts of Muhammed on November 22, 1963? Inside about a billion heads, probably 70% of which could not read or write. Also about ten thousand Hindu died in Narayangonj and Dhaka. In 1963! http://www.asiantribune.com/index.php?q=node/6656 Sorry I forgot ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

You didn't read the reference very closely, did you, Adamant?


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Towards the end of 1963, tension between Bengali and non-Bengali workers in the mills and factories were reported in Khulna. Sporadic riots took place in Khulna.This gave rise to the communal riots in East Bengal -the lead was taken by a leader of Khulna and soon the riot was spread over the industrial areas there and soon the whole of East Bengal got the contagion. The Biharis took the lead again. Riots also started in Jessore, Mymensingh, Pabna, Rajshahi and some other places. It was learnt that at all the places Bengali Muslims came forward to protect the Hindus and in the process some of them were killed.  An official-backed news item on the issue of the theft of the Prophet's holy hair from the Hazratbal shrine in Kashmir was in the media. I still recall the voice of Radio Pakistan’s newscaster Sarkar Kabiruddin stating "This hair is not that holy hair, this is a false, artificial hair." About ten thousand Hindu died in Narayangonj and Dhaka. Some Muslims came forward to rescue Hindus in Dhaka and adjacent areas had to face martyrdom in that riots. A new sense of Bengaliness resurrects in the blood of Muslim and Hindus that forced them to the liberation war in 1971.

Who'd have imagined it, Muslims protecting Hindus to the point of sacrificing their lives to do so.  Doesn't fit with the image of how you and the Islamophobes paint them, now does it. Adamant?   ::)

Lionel Edriess wrote on Oct 13^th, 2014 at 10:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2014 at 1:01pm: brumbie wrote on Oct 11th, 2014 at 12:02am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2014 at 11:45pm: It's a conspiracy theory based on flimsy evidence ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D But Brian, YOU are the one that called it a conspiracy ;D ;D ;D ;D So?   You going to answer my question as to the whereabouts of Muhammed on November 22, 1963?   Mmmm?    ::) Anything to contribute other than your usual smiley faces?

You're a tough audience, Lionel.

I don't really care what you think.  I don't perform for your pleasure.  You can either take what I say or leave it.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 10:55pm:

You didn't read the reference very closely, did you, Adamant?

I Did read it brian ,it is obvious to me that you did not. You forgot to mention the 10,000 Hindus that were killed, then again you are a raging racist islamophobe (one who is too scared to show islam for what it truly is) in case you loose your head.

Your continued racist rants against everything that is not islam, makes you one of the most disgusting individuals I have ever had the misfortune to come across.

"Hindus have always been threatened and discriminated against in Pakistan and Bangladesh on religious grounds. Though in 1947, Hindus accounted for 24 per cent of the present day Pakistan’s population, now the numbers less than two per cent. Situation is equally grave in Bangladesh where Hindus numbered 31 per cent in 1947, but now number nine per cent. Most of the Hindus / Sikhs have either been driven out, or have been killed or forcibly converted in Pakistan and Bangladesh. However, in India, the present percentage of Muslim population is much higher than that was in 1947".

"Hindus suffered such attempted extermination in East Bengal in 1971, when the Pakistani Army killed 1 to 3 million people, with Hindus as their most wanted target. This fact is strictly ignored in most writing about Hindu-Muslim relations, in spite (or rather because) of its serious implication that even the lowest estimate of the Hindu death toll in 1971 makes Hindus by far the most numerous victims of Hindu-Muslim violence in the post-colonial period. It is significant that no serious count or religion-wise breakdown of the death toll has been attempted: the Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi ruling classes all agree that this would feed Hindu grievances against Muslims".

Run along you racist bigot.

So who were the Muslims protecting Hindus?  Saints?    ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

So who were the Muslims protecting Hindus?  Saints?    ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

How many millions died preserving the Hindus. You are lower than a snake. Sub human  springs to mind for even thinking that the deaths of millions of people by the hands of muslims is acceptable. You are a stinking apologetic muslim racist bigot.

Adamant wrote on Oct 16^th, 2014 at 2:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14th, 2014 at 10:55pm: You didn't read the reference very closely, did you, Adamant? I Did read it brian ,it is obvious to me that you did not. You forgot to mention the 10,000 Hindus that were killed, then again you are a raging racist islamophobe (one who is too scared to show islam for what it truly is) in case you loose your head.

Why would I lose it, Adamant?  All my Muslim friends don't walk around with swords, cutting off non-believers' heads, nor do they support those Muslims who do.   ::)

You have still not explained why some Muslims shielded Hindus, to the point of death.  Why?  Does even admitting that Muslims are more humane than you desire make things difficult for your view of them?   ::)


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Your continued racist rants against everything that is not islam, makes you one of the most disgusting individuals I have ever had the misfortune to come across.

"Racist rants"?  Where?  Perhaps you should stop trying to throw mud all the time?  It's not going to stick 'cause you can't produce any evidence of these "rants".  It just makes you look even more incredibly foolish than you already are.   ::)

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Adamant wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 6:24pm:

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I agree.

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no answer then brian as usual, ask another question and your muslim belief will still be intact. that's a bloody muslim!

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