Mathias Cormann channels Arnie in 'girly man' attack on Bill Shorten

Date
    October 18, 2014



If Finance Minister Mathias Cormann wants to get away from his image as the Terminator of Australian politics, borrowing lines from Arnold Schwarzenegger is the wrong way to go about it.      :(

Mr Cormann risked causing offence on Saturday by using the former California "Governator's" famous political attack line, "economic girly men".

"The problem that the Labor Party has today is that Bill Shorten is an economic girly man," Mr Cormann told Sky News on Saturday in his trademark European tones, often compared to Austrian-born Mr Schwarzenegger.




The former Mr Universe used the "girly man" line on numerous occasions but most famously at the 2004 Republican National Convention when he blasted pessimists on the US economy as girly men.

Mr Schwarzenegger was attacked by feminist groups and gay rights campaigners.

Belgian-born Mr Cormann was continuing the government's assault on Mr Shorten for blocking billions of dollars of savings measures in the Coalition's controversial first budget.


In the past, Mr Shorten has referred to the Finance Minister as "that Cormann fellow".

He counter-attacked on Saturday, saying that rather than "borrowing lines from Republican Tea Party conventions to joke about hurting vulnerable Australians", Mr Cormann should "face up to his unfair budget".      

"It's obvious why Abbott government ministers are more interested in sexist name-calling than defending their unfair budget. This is the same bloke that was celebrating with a cigar in his mouth days before announcing cuts to pensions, family payments and universities," Mr Shorten said.      :(

"Trying to trivialise the hurt and concern this budget is causing in the community, especially amongst women, is a disgrace.

"If the government found room in their cabinet for more than one woman, perhaps this budget wouldn't be such an unmitigated disaster."

Labor MP Ed Husic went immediately in to bat for his leader on Sky, advising Mr Cormann to concentrate on getting "the stink out of the budget".

Mr Husic said Mr Cormann should become "the deodoriser" rather than the Terminator. 

"I think he should avoid the name calling and try and actually fix this stinker of a budget," Mr Husic said.      :(

"Instead of some juvenile name calling, perhaps Mathias Cormann, who people like to liken to the Terminator, should become 'the deodoriser' and get the stink out of this budget."

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Why is it an unfair budget? Oh yeah, that's right! Because the worst Treasurer in our history (Wayne Swan) couldn't balance a single budget - not even the one he inherited from Peter Costello, which had a considerable surplus and zero debt. Nor could he stop borrowing, with no plan to pay it back. Yeah, had the ALP had someone even half competent as Treasurer, the mess wouldn't be anywhere near as huge as it is now for Joe Hockey to clean up. Economic vandals? Labor massacred the budget and then went to work on the bones!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 9:03pm:

Why is it an unfair budget? Oh yeah, that's right! Because the worst Treasurer in our history (Wayne Swan) couldn't balance a single budget - not even the one he inherited from Peter Costello, which had a considerable surplus and zero debt. Nor could he stop borrowing, with no plan to pay it back. Yeah, had the ALP had someone even half competent as Treasurer, the mess wouldn't be anywhere near as huge as it is now for Joe Hockey to clean up. Economic vandals? Labor massacred the budget and then went to work on the bones!

Haven't you been saying that since the LNP won election, when will the excuses stop.

The unfair and unduly harsh Budget has had one effect—purses have slammed shut across the nation. Hello recession and deflation!

The Terminator: Why do you cry?

John Connor: You mean people?

The Terminator: Yes.

John Connor: I don't know. We just cry. You know, when it hurts.

The Terminator: Pain causes it?

John Connor: No, it's when there's nothing wrong with you, but you hurt anyway. You get it?

The Terminator: No.


That about sums it up...... the Cormannator is about as robotic as Arnie could ever be....

Now somebody explain to me again how the shaitan Western Australia elected him to the farken senate....

How the shaitan did he get past their alleged intellect?  The man has not one thing positive to offer anyone other than his allegiance to a party that some fools consider worthwhile.... where are his credentials to be in our Senate?

If I were a member of a party that featured pine as a minister I would not be calling anybody a " girly man". I am sure cwissy would sit down to piss.

.....   

Its time wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 9:11pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:03pm: Why is it an unfair budget? Oh yeah, that's right! Because the worst Treasurer in our history (Wayne Swan) couldn't balance a single budget - not even the one he inherited from Peter Costello, which had a considerable surplus and zero debt. Nor could he stop borrowing, with no plan to pay it back. Yeah, had the ALP had someone even half competent as Treasurer, the mess wouldn't be anywhere near as huge as it is now for Joe Hockey to clean up. Economic vandals? Labor massacred the budget and then went to work on the bones! Haven't you been saying that since the LNP won election, when will the excuses stop.

He can't stop. He's been wired that way and it wont change until the Daily Telegraph reprograms him which might be never. It's all a question of what Murdoch wants to do with him.   

Mr Husic said Mr Cormann should become "the deodoriser" rather than the Terminator.

"I think he should avoid the name calling and try and actually fix this stinker of a budget," Mr Husic said.  Well said Mr Husic, the Abbott government budget stinks.      :(

Its time wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 9:11pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:03pm: Why is it an unfair budget? Oh yeah, that's right! Because the worst Treasurer in our history (Wayne Swan) couldn't balance a single budget - not even the one he inherited from Peter Costello, which had a considerable surplus and zero debt. Nor could he stop borrowing, with no plan to pay it back. Yeah, had the ALP had someone even half competent as Treasurer, the mess wouldn't be anywhere near as huge as it is now for Joe Hockey to clean up. Economic vandals? Labor massacred the budget and then went to work on the bones! Haven't you been saying that since the LNP won election, when will the excuses stop.

The FACT that Shorten and his cronies are blocking billions in budget savings (including those the ALP intended to introduce if re-elected) is not an excuse. It's a FACT.

St George of the Garden wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 9:14pm:

The unfair and unduly harsh Budget has had one effect—purses have slammed shut across the nation. Hello recession and deflation!

The fact that the last two quarters have shown growth proves you are wrong.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 8:49am:

Its time wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:11pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:03pm: Why is it an unfair budget? Oh yeah, that's right! Because the worst Treasurer in our history (Wayne Swan) couldn't balance a single budget - not even the one he inherited from Peter Costello, which had a considerable surplus and zero debt. Nor could he stop borrowing, with no plan to pay it back. Yeah, had the ALP had someone even half competent as Treasurer, the mess wouldn't be anywhere near as huge as it is now for Joe Hockey to clean up. Economic vandals? Labor massacred the budget and then went to work on the bones! Haven't you been saying that since the LNP won election, when will the excuses stop. The FACT that Shorten and his cronies are blocking billions in budget savings (including those the ALP intended to introduce if re-elected) is not an excuse. It's a FACT.

Perhaps if the LNP wanted to chase some savings from the top end of town and not rape and pillage the lower socio economic you may find those in opposition, and that's not just Labor, because after all the LNP don't even need Labor to pass legislation, you may find them a little more receptive.  Speaks volumes when a self confessed Liberal , aka Clive, won't even back LNP  ;)

Why no mention of why Cormann made this comment? It was in reply to Shorten saying that Labor could get the budget back in to surplus before the Coalition. A most remarkable statement considering what fiscal failures Labor are. Seems NO media want to go there. Don't want to make Shorten look anymore stupid than he already is? All I can say is good comeback Matthias! Shorten is a fool and you need to address him in language he understands. LOL, he appears to understand now, whinging like a "girlie/man".

Corman has become quite literally a parody of himself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQEHBTbIdnY

Note the date of the video.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 8:51am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:14pm: The unfair and unduly harsh Budget has had one effect—purses have slammed shut across the nation. Hello recession and deflation! The fact that the last two quarters have shown growth proves you are wrong.

Slowing growth, increasing unemployment.

'growth' measured by what?

macman wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 7:52am:

If I were a member of a party that featured pine as a minister I would not be calling anybody a " girly man".

Gold ...  ;D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 9:03pm:

Why is it an unfair budget? Oh yeah, that's right! Because the worst Treasurer in our history (Wayne Swan) couldn't balance a single budget - not even the one he inherited from Peter Costello, which had a considerable surplus and zero debt. Nor could he stop borrowing, with no plan to pay it back. Yeah, had the ALP had someone even half competent as Treasurer, the mess wouldn't be anywhere near as huge as it is now for Joe Hockey to clean up. Economic vandals? Labor massacred the budget and then went to work on the bones!

Getting really tired of reading crap like this.

Wayne Swan had to first cope with the GFC then try to rid the Budget of Howard’s irresponsible, even reckless spending. We have Costello’s own word for the spending being reckless and causing harm down the track. From next financial year the tax perks a few really rich people can use to avoid tax will exceed the whole cost of all pensions. These are not bagatelles, trifles of no import.

Wayne Swan started cutting into that spending in his last Budget. The shambles undid his first moves there then started talking about introducing a gold plated PPL policy and removing means testing from the private health care rebate! Then there is the nonsense of DA and paying for soil carbon, tho this is not a permanent carbon store. And the nonsense of work for the dole.

On top of that, last 3 tax cuts (including the Rudd/Swan one of 2008) need to go. They were paid for by the mining boom phase 1 (2001–7) and that is well and truly over!

There is no need at all for throwing young unemployed people off unemployment benefits for 6 months a year—the drop in spending from this cohort of consumers alone will collapse the retail sector. Making university study more expensive, taking it out of the reach of young and bright but poor people. What idiot thinks this is good? Cwissy Pyne.

Wayne did a pretty good job, the last three years being in minority govt. Blame Howard and Costello if you really want to blame someone for debt and deficit.

St George of the Garden wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 11:42pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 18th, 2014 at 9:03pm: Why is it an unfair budget? Oh yeah, that's right! Because the worst Treasurer in our history (Wayne Swan) couldn't balance a single budget - not even the one he inherited from Peter Costello, which had a considerable surplus and zero debt. Nor could he stop borrowing, with no plan to pay it back. Yeah, had the ALP had someone even half competent as Treasurer, the mess wouldn't be anywhere near as huge as it is now for Joe Hockey to clean up. Economic vandals? Labor massacred the budget and then went to work on the bones! Getting really tired of reading crap like this. Wayne Swan had to first cope with the GFC then try to rid the Budget of Howard’s irresponsible, even reckless spending. We have Costello’s own word for the spending being reckless and causing harm down the track. From next financial year the tax perks a few really rich people can use to avoid tax will exceed the whole cost of all pensions. These are not bagatelles, trifles of no import. Wayne Swan started cutting into that spending in his last Budget. The shambles undid his first moves there then started talking about introducing a gold plated PPL policy and removing means testing from the private health care rebate! Then there is the nonsense of DA and paying for soil carbon, tho this is not a permanent carbon store. And the nonsense of work for the dole. On top of that, last 3 tax cuts (including the Rudd/Swan one of 2008) need to go. They were paid for by the mining boom phase 1 (2001–7) and that is well and truly over! There is no need at all for throwing young unemployed people off unemployment benefits for 6 months a year—the drop in spending from this cohort of consumers alone will collapse the retail sector. Making university study more expensive, taking it out of the reach of young and bright but poor people. What idiot thinks this is good? Cwissy Pyne. Wayne did a pretty good job, the last three years being in minority govt. Blame Howard and Costello if you really want to blame someone for debt and deficit.

Howards' spending was neither reckless nor irresponsible, as he spent money he HAD and didn't need to borrow. In fact, he increased spending while at the same time paying off Keatings' $96bn debt! Swan had ample time to make changes before the GFC if he wanted to or he thought it was necessary. He also had a sizeable surplus on which to build. He did neither and instead chose to borrow indiscriminately and waste those borrowings on short-term "fixes" that in reality did nothing to address the problems of the GFC, of which we were largely insulated thanks to Costello's good work. So yeah, it's getting old having to continually re-educate you on the facts but I'm happy to do it in the hope you'll eventually come to your senses. :)

Der Cormannator iss vacing up do hiss Buchet...

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/25293955/cormann-defends-girly-man-gibe/

Handling it like a man...

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 6:40am:

Howards' spending was neither reckless nor irresponsible,

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Permanent budget measures funded by temporary revenue, bribes to Saddam, party-political advertising paid for by the taxpayer in a futile attempt to prop up a moribund government, the list goes on.


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as he spent money he HAD and didn't need to borrow.

Irrelevant. What the money is spent on is more important than how the funds are obtained. If your argument had any credibility, you would be asserting that Howard's payment of a couple of hundred million dollars in BRIBES to a dictator was a sensible use of taxpayers' money.

Governments borrow money all the time. Even Costello - whom you falsely claim paid off debt - never had less than about $50 billion in outstanding bonds at any time. If he "paid off debt" these bonds would have been paid out. They weren't.


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In fact, he increased spending while at the same time paying off Keatings' $96bn debt!

The Howard government stole the credit for Keating's hard work. The budget was well on the way to surplus when Howard won in 1996. The budget would have returned to surplus by 1998 no matter who was in office.

Check the numbers yourself if you don't believe it.

And some of that debt was inherited from Howard, the worst Treasurer this country has ever seen.


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Swan had ample time to make changes before the GFC if he wanted to or he thought it was necessary. He also had a sizeable surplus on which to build.

No, he didn't. The surplus was TEMPORARY, bloated by large profits from the mining industry during the mining boom. Once that ended, the true budget position was exposed. Swan inherited one of the biggest fiscal hospital passes this country has ever seen.


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He did neither

Not for want of trying. He had a hostile Senate and the Liberals opposed almost every budget measure that Swan proposed.


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and instead chose to borrow indiscriminately and waste those borrowings on short-term "fixes" that in reality did nothing to address the problems of the GFC,

A lie. Swan's efforts in keeping Australia out of recession when no other developed country could do this were widely praised. You're demonstrating a fundamental lack of understanding of Keynesian economic principles.

Swan did make one mistake though that I don't agree with - the same mistake that Costello made: he funded tax cuts out of temporary revenue. Because these Treasurers both funded tax cuts out of temporary revenue, there is broad acceptance that a sensible approach to budget repair would see these last three tax cuts repealed, including Costello's last two.


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of which we were largely insulated thanks to Costello's good work.

More spin and crap. Costello's "good work" was pretty poor in the end. He made no effort to increase the level compulsory superannuation contributions despite being Treasurer for 12 years. By doing that he bloated pension imposts on future budgets and so inflicted an enormous amount of sabotage on future budgets that we will still be seeing 40 years from now. He funded tax cuts out of temporary windfall revenue created by the mining boom. When the temporary revenue ended, the underlying budget deficit was exposed - the hospital pass I referred to earlier.


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So yeah, it's getting old having to continually re-educate you on the facts but I'm happy to do it in the hope you'll eventually come to your senses. :)

Your "facts" are party-political spin that's little more than the dog vomit of regurgitated Liberal party propaganda. You never post anything critical of the Liberal party. Nobody believes your versions of the "facts" because they are far too biased to be credible.