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Title: The Right's right to be wrong Post by John S on Oct 19th, 2014 at 8:26am We are told that Islamophobia doesn't exist in Australia. Really? (image from couriermail.com.au) Has anyone else noticed the ever increasing drift from reality those famous bed-partners – the Coalition and the Murdoch media – have settled comfortably into? Not only have they drifted into a land that resembles nothing like the one where we others dwell, they also have some absurd idea that this new, fabulous paradise is all that exists. But alas, unbeknown to them it renders them ignorant, and oh so hypocritical. Take Joe Hockey for example. He repeatedly bellowed that the age of entitlement was over, and followed up with a budget that showed us that the age of entitlement is of course over, except for those who are entitled to it. It’s a strange world he lives in. It’s not in this universe. Miranda Devine lives there too. Her blog piece, ‘The Left’s race to call us all bigots‘ was the inspiration for my satirical response in calling this piece ‘The Right’s right to be wrong’. I didn’t have to read all the article to see how wrong, hypocritical, and off the planet Ms Devine must be. I got as far as the first two sentences: They see racism where most people see patriotism. They cry Islamophobia where there is none to be found. They hear dog whistles that never sounded. They are obviously losing their collective minds. There is much in those claims to dispute, but I want to focus on Islamophobia where there is none to be found. Maybe Ms Devine hasn’t been reading the very paper she writes for, which over the last month has been belting us with the news that does nothing more than highlight that we live in a country where Islamophobia has become a part of the national psyche. Let’s take a random look at what her newspaper – and other media outlets – have been saying: 1) Young filmmaker Kamal Saleh is optimistic for the future of Australia after his social experiment on Islamophobia but says discrimination remains an issue in the community. 2) Five threatening letters delivered to Muslim businesses and groups in Lakemba are being investigated by police, with more incidents believed to be going unreported. Campsie crime manager detective Inspector Paul Albury said the material was offensive and would be to anybody in the community. “It’s degrading, disgusting and derogatory to people and their religion,” he said. 3) Last week, after Bernardi’s comments, I was interviewed by the ABC for an explanatory article on the burqa, the niqab, and my choice of garment, the hijab, which covers only a woman’s hair, neck and shoulders. Bizarrely, when posted by the ABC on Facebook, the article received more comments than the ABC’s reports on the anti-terror raids themselves. The comments section is sobering reading for anyone with any doubts about the perniciousness of Islamophobia in Australia. 4) Australia has emerged as a fertile environment for Islamophobia. Stereotypical representations of Muslims in the early years of the “War on Terror” – which linked terrorism, violence and Islam – gained wide currency by the mid-2000s. Sections of the news media, politicians and social media have re-activated these stereotypes. Muslim Australians are made to feel they are targets – for everything from the everyday racism encountered in schools and on the streets, to draconian counter-terrorism legislation that restricts civil liberties, to war and the preparations for war. 5) In the contemporary socio-political context of Australia, Islamophobia continues to be haunted by the cycle of moral panics around the Muslim “Other.” continue |
Title: Re: The Right's right to be wrong Post by John S on Oct 19th, 2014 at 8:26am
6) Tony Abbott has been urged to speak out more strongly against Islamophobia in Australia following reports of mosques being defaced, women verbally abused on the street and death threats issued to Muslim figures. Community leaders have said they are deeply worried that Australia’s mission against Islamic State (Isis) and recent anti-terrorism raids are fuelling attacks against Muslims in Australia.
7) The waves of abuse on social media has also highlighted how open bigotry has become, as if the disgust around the Islamic State has given a free pass to intolerance. 8) Many Muslim women, say Ms Kay and other community members, are fearful of going out and many won’t venture far beyond their homes. Ahmed Kilani, editor of website muslimvillage.com, says some are now questioning whether Australia is still a safe and tolerant society. “My own mother rang me yesterday,” Mr Kilani told SBS, “with concern about what’s going, she said, ‘I don’t feel safe and secure.’ She made the comment to me that despite living here for 40 years which is a lot longer than she lived in Egypt. She said perhaps I need to consider moving back there and questioned whether I should go and get myself a dual citizenship in case things get really bad.” Race Discrimination Commissioner Tim Soutphommasane has called for calm, saying, “Muslim Australians are entitled to a fair go and to be treated with respect and there is simply no place for this kind of bigotry and this kind of criminal behaviour.” I’m sure by now that you get my point. And to top it off The Daily Telegraph – the very paper Ms Devine works for – even published an article titled ‘Incidents of Islamophobia‘. I’m baffled that Ms Devine finds it necessary not only to blame the Left for Islamophobia in this country – then announces that it doesn’t exist here anyway – yet works in an industry (and a newspaper) that keeps telling us how rampant it is. If I may borrow an old adage: who makes this poo up? The drift from reality is almost complete. She is quickly catching up to Joe Hockey. http://theaimn.com/rights-right-wrong/ |
Title: Re: The Right's right to be wrong Post by Lord Herbert on Oct 19th, 2014 at 8:54am
'Islamophobia'.
'Morbid and irrational fear of Islam'. I haven't yet witnessed any irrational fear of Islam. Islam is responsible for 21 people in our jails who wanted to mass-murder us. Islam is responsible for the butchery of 'Islamic State'. The Boston bombing. The London Underground. Twin Towers. Madrid. Beslan. Bali 1. Bali 2. Videos of beheadings. Rape gangs and prostitution gangs by Muslims upon kafir white girls. etc etc. Stop being an ass and wake up to yourself, John S. You too ImSparticus. It's time to grow up and stop childishly defending the indefensible because you believe this at least gives you moral superiority over your intellectual superiors. Wake up to yourselves. |
Title: Re: The Right's right to be wrong Post by progressiveslol on Oct 19th, 2014 at 12:33pm
Because of the collective silence, I find myself walking the other side of the street. I find myself readying to kill if attacked. Waiting for a jihadist................
This is what will happen in the not too distant future. |
Title: Re: The Right's right to be wrong Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 19th, 2014 at 12:41pm Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 8:54am:
I suggest that you read some posts from Sprint, Soren, Yadda, et al. |
Title: Re: The Right's right to be wrong Post by Dnarever on Oct 19th, 2014 at 12:57pm John S wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 8:26am: Yeah Respect the right to Graffiti ? |
Title: Re: The Right's right to be wrong Post by Bubba Zanetti on Oct 19th, 2014 at 1:10pm POLICE have launched an investigation into a graffiti attack at a Sydney school where vandals scrawled “ISIS R coming” and “ISIS beheads”. Teachers at East Hills Boys High School discovered the graffiti on four buildings and a fence yesterday morning and reported it to police. It comes just weeks after the Australian Federal Police visited the school amid reports a student had travelled to Lebanon and was en route to join IS militants in Syria before he was stopped by his father. Police believe the vandals broke into the school in Panania, in Sydney’s southwest between 6pm on Tuesday and 7.30am yesterday. The school came to the attention of authorities this year when two students linked to Hamdi Al Qudsi, the Sydney man charged with sending young men to fight in Syria, refused to stand for the national anthem. The 14-year-old boys reportedly told police they “only stand for God”. When asked about the graffiti attack yesterday, a boy at Al Qudsi’s home told The Daily Telegraph “we don’t know anything about it”. |
Title: Re: The Right's right to be wrong Post by Dnarever on Oct 19th, 2014 at 1:16pm Quote:
They would be stuffed without it and gee aren't they good at it. |
Title: Re: The Right's right to be wrong Post by salad in on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:14pm John S wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 8:26am:
And what shall we do to combat Australianophobia? Should we ask Australian girls to stop wearing bikinis on a hot day at the beach? Should we refrain from openly questioning alleged religions on the grounds that it might offend some people? The best thing muslims can do BEFORE they come to Australia is to visit their local library and read about Australia, its people, its customs, its outspokenness, its friendships based on negotiation, etc. Don't come to this country not knowing what it's all about and start PHUKING whining. And don't invent words like islamophobia in an effort to shut us up. |
Title: Re: The Right's right to be wrong Post by Dnarever on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:24pm salad in wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:14pm:
its friendships based on negotiation Do you sign a friendship contract before you recognise the relationship ? |
Title: Re: The Right's right to be wrong Post by salad in on Oct 19th, 2014 at 6:24pm Dnarever wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 2:24pm:
No, you are allowed to avoid those you don't like and befriend those you do like. You DO NOT have some skyfairy tell you who to reject or befriend. Quote:
And these people come here seeking FREEDOM. They're not even free to seek out their own friendships. What a phuking joke. They can't cast off the yoke of their religion. |
Title: Re: The Right's right to be wrong Post by DaS Energy on Oct 19th, 2014 at 8:27pm
Australians are Australian.
A Muslim youth not happy with our customs and ways, was helped to convert by Australian youth. This message I think got across to his parents as well. I suspect many Muslim parents will have closer ties with their children and their wants after one clown threatened to kill an Australian. Australians had no problems shooting out the Blacks just for killing a sheep, didn't matter if they killed a sheep or not! Russia once experienced an Egyptian problem of killing a Russian, which has never happened since! Japs once had the same problem and look at them now. You can put British scum like Abbott into Australia, but you cant take the Australian out of Australians! |
Title: Re: The Right's right to be wrong Post by Soren on Oct 19th, 2014 at 10:41pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 12:41pm:
I do not see how the fear of sharia law is irrational. I think you are mad or stupid or both, Gweg (and Brain), if you do not fear it, let alone advocate it. You seem to fit the bill on both accounts - you do not fear it and you certainly do not oppose it. Mad and stupid? Or just spineless and dishonest like Brain? Tell us, Gweg (and Brain), tell us where you stand. |
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