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Title: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:30pm

I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!

Moslems insist that they just want to be 'accepted' in the country where they live.

Moslems assert [and insist] that 'the moslem' has a 'human right', to be 'accepted' in a country like [insert, any Western hemisphere nation].

Yadda said....

Quote:

Moslems, by choosing ISLAM, are separating themselves from other Australians, just as much as many Australians [now] are choosing to separate themselves from moslems [....because of what 'being a moslem' represents].

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."

Today, many moslems - living in Australia - are insisting that we, Australians, must be forced to believe the incredible;

"I'm a moslem, and i worship Allah, and i revere Mohammed his messenger.
And i know that Allah calls for the enslavement and/or murder of all non-moslems - THROUGH JIHAD [religious fighting, when moslems have that 'opportunity'].

But i don't follow that part of my faith.

HONEST!" ;D

Dictionary;
incredible = =
1 impossible to believe.
2 difficult to believe; extraordinary.

Yadda said....

Quote:

Every moslem, that lives among us, IS A REAL THREAT, TO OUR PEACE [...a real threat to whatever peace we do enjoy].

THE TRUTH ABOUT EVERY MOSLEM.....

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1411947310/0#0
[quote]

If a Muslim isn’t himself a terrorist he certainly supports terrorism.

And there isn’t a Muslim alive who doesn’t hope to one day see Sharia imposed in western countries.

[/quote]

Many moslems insist that they just want to be 'accepted'.

QUESTION;
What do moslems accept ?

Moslems accept Allah's religion.

Moslems accept Mainstream ISLAM.

STATEMENT;
ISLAMIC law [i.e. Mainstream ISLAM], and the tenets of ISLAMIC culture, sanction [i.e. MAKES LAWFUL!] the killing of any person who,
1/ comes into the power of 'the moslem',
2/ and who [being within the power of 'the moslem'] rejects the authority of ISLAM and its law, over their life.

QUESTION;
But if those things are true, then why don't we see more religious violence being 'expressed' by moslems, in Australia ?

ANSWER;
Because [most] moslems in Australia, realise that their [real!] malevolent intent, in 2014, would easily be crushed.

the threats posed by Islam
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1368872008/51#51

Quote:

Chimp you are confusing impotence with benevolence.

underage marriage in Sydney
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391854581/281#281

Quote:

You are mistaking impotence for benign intent.

Yadda said....

Quote:

Moslems within non-moslem host communities are engaged in a war of attrition.

In those places where circumstances do not yet allow moslems to subjugate non-moslems, moslems 'struggle' ['Jihad'] to gain influence within non-moslem cultural and government institutions, where they seek to undermine those institutions, and promote ISLAMIC 'values', and an approximation of Sharia law, and will seek to promote the influence of fellow moslems within those institutions.

Alternatively, in those areas where ISLAM slowly [or quickly!] becomes politically, and numerically superior, and where the moslem community has the means, there is a 'religious' obligation upon all moslems to press ISLAM's [political] claims, using all 'justifiable' violence, to establish the sovereignty of Allah, and his followers, over the native peoples of that area.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:33pm

You really need to see someone about your Islamophobia.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:36pm

Many moslems insist that they just want to be 'accepted'.

QUESTION;
What do moslems accept ?

Moslems accept Allah's religion.

Moslems accept Mainstream ISLAM.

e.g.!!!!!!

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; That those who are not moslems [and reject ISLAM] be declared 'the enemies of Allah's religion' [and therefore those persons become the - mortal - enemies of all moslems!].

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To 'the moslem' 'lawfully' killing those who are not moslems - wherever OR, whenever, such death(s) are deemed beneficial to Allah's religion [and/or beneficial to 'the moslem'].

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To 'the moslem' 'lawfully' killing - by crucifixtion - those who oppose and resist the spread of Allah's religion. [see Koran 5.33 below]

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To 'the moslem' [i.e. 'lawfully'] killing those who are not moslems - BECAUSE THEY INSULT ISLAM, SIMPLY BY REJECTING THE AUTHORITY OF ALLAH'S RELIGION AND ITS LAW, over their life.
e.g.
IMAGE....
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/08/27/1227038/812722-d0870956-2cc7-11e4-a978-2255e0b773c2.jpg

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; That "....those who reject Allah have no protector." [i.e. those who reject Allah's religion - are the 'guilty' people - and have no protection from Allah's religion and laws.]

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To those who are not moslems being subjugated/captured, and subsequently being ENSLAVED by 'the moslem'.

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To moslem men keeping and 'using' captured non-moslem women [and young girls], as SEX SLAVES.
e.g.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-female-jihadis-running-isis-4198165

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To Sharia [ISLAMIC law] being violently imposed upon those who are not moslems. [e.g. if moslems in Australia, had the 'opportunity', 'the moslem' would impose Sharia law upon Australia, and Australians.]

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To 'the moslem' man marrying a 9 your old girl.

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To 'the moslem' 'lawfully' killing any member of his family [e.g. his wife, or a child, or children, OR, his grandchildren!!]. i.e. Any person who is deemed [by 'the moslem'!] to be apostate [a rebel against Allah's religion].

+++

But of course, moslems here in Australia are busy telling everyone who will listen, that 'the moslem' has a 'human right', to be 'accepted' in a country like [insert, any Western hemisphere nation].

MYSELF;
I choose, NOT to 'accept' moslems, BECAUSE 'THE MOSLEM' WILL DECEITFULLY CLAIM THAT HE/SHE DOES NOT ENDORSE ANY OF THE ABOVE - WHICH IS SHARIA LAW !

But the above, is what Mainstream ISLAM is !

And Mainstream ISLAM, is what - 'the moslem' - has joined himself to !
i.e.
That, what Mainstream ISLAM makes lawful, to 'the moslem'.

'The moslem', accepts Allah's religion.

'The moslem', accepts Mainstream ISLAM.

I do not!

FURTHER ARGUMENTS - IN SUPPORT OF THE ABOVE CLAIMS;

STATEMENT;
ISLAMIC law [i.e. Mainstream ISLAM], and the tenets of ISLAMIC culture, sanction [i.e. MAKES LAWFUL!] the killing of any person who,
1/ comes into the power of 'the moslem',
2/ and who [being within the power of 'the moslem'] rejects the authority of ISLAM and its law, over their life.

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

THE SUNNA OF MOHAMMED....
"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

Mainstream ISLAM....

Quote:

~~ISIS~~.... Saudi Arabia sentences Shiite cleric to be crucified
Oct 15, 2014

Everyone knows that when the Islamic State crucifies people, it is practicing a bizarre extremism that has nothing to do with Islam.

Google

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world..."
Koran 5.33

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm

Suppose for a second that what you are saying is completely true...

Do you really think western civilisation would allow an implementation of Sharia Law? That'd we'd all just get on our knees and accept it? I don't think so. We love our democratic freedoms... though, it's because of this democratic freedom that people from other cultures are able to come here in the first place.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:49pm

QUESTION;
But aren't some moslems, good people ???

QUESTION;
Is a person who subscribes to [consents to] the >> MURDER << of his/her neighbour, a 'good' person ?

Dictionary;
murder = = the unlawful premeditated killing of one person by another.

Because that, is the proposition which is being made in the statement that;

"Some/many moslems are good people."

My contention [and argument], is that;

There are no 'nice' moslems.

Because there is no 'nice' ISLAM.

Yadda said....

Quote:

Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['unbelievers'].

TRUTH.

All cognisant moslems themselves, know this to be true, and deny and hide this criminal intent from their non-moslem host communities.

CRIMINAL INTENT IN THE MOSLEM HEART

Dictionary,
malice aforethought = = Law the intention to kill or harm, held to distinguish unlawful killing from murder.

IMAGE....

Another moslem who just wanted to be 'accepted'.

Aqsa Mahmood - the pretty moslem medical student, from the UK.

That young moslem woman abandoned her medical studies in the UK, to travel to Syria/Iraq, so that she could supervise the rape [by moslems men] of other young women who are not moslem young women.

"'British' woman, Aqsa Mahmood, said she wanted to behead Christians with a “blunt knife”."

Mirror Online-British female jihadis running ISIS brothels allowing killers to rape kidnapped Yazidi women
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-female-jihadis-running-isis-4198165

But aren't some moslems, good people ???

Q.
Again, what does Sharia law permit ?????

A.
The enslavement, rape, and murder, of those who do not believe, as moslems believe!

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:52pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

You're addressing Yadda like one would address a sane person.

I'm not sure why.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 1:10pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

Suppose for a second that what you are saying is completely true...

Do you really think western civilisation would allow an implementation of Sharia Law?

Freedumb,

Many European nations are - effectively - 'tolerating' Sharia law, today, in their lands!

e.g.
Google;
uk muslim daughter Banaz, found buried backyard suitcase

Google;
uk muslim honour killings

Google;
no-go areas, for non-muslims in Europe

Google;
rape jihad, in Europe

Belgium - Militant Muslims in market
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-inob20I_Y0

Pat Condell - Sweden - Ship of fools
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZsvdg1dkJ4

Violence, threats, intimidation - Europe under siege by Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DSEbBzZ8rg

Muslims conquer Europe, French people have had enough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eABe3HNTK0

Quote:

That'd we'd all just get on our knees and accept it? I don't think so.

We love our democratic freedoms... though,

it's because of this democratic freedom that people from other cultures are able to come here in the first place.

No. !!!!!!!

It is because we [ourselves] don't think that it is important, AT ALL, to discriminate between what is good and what is evil.

And, to separate ourselves, from what is evil.

THAT, is why so many violent criminals and child molesters are 'living in the community'.

That is why, it is not safe to walk on city and suburban streets at night, Freedumb

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Dnarever on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 1:14pm

Quote:

I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!

I doubt that they care.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 1:37pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 1:14pm:

Quote:

I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!

I doubt that they care.

That is true.

.......only because, many people [who are not moslems] do not recognise how evil and wicked Mainstream ISLAM is.

And therefore, many people do not associate the evil and wickedness of ISLAM, with moslems.

But that 'logic', does not change what is true.

A moslem [EVERY moslem], is a person who endorses what Mainstream ISLAM promotes and allows.

Yadda said....

Quote:

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."

Today, many moslems - living in Australia - are insisting that we, Australians, must be forced to believe the incredible;

"I'm a moslem, and i worship Allah, and i revere Mohammed his messenger.
And i know that Allah calls for the enslavement and/or murder of all non-moslems - THROUGH JIHAD [religious fighting, when moslems have that 'opportunity'].

But i don't follow that part of my faith.

HONEST!" ;D

Dictionary;
incredible = =
1 impossible to believe.
2 difficult to believe; extraordinary.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 1:40pm

Not many people care.

That is sad!

Quote:

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."iThere is a popular absurdity, that inhabits our consciousnesses, and that is 'about in the world' today.

It is the proposition that 1+ billion moslems, are 'moderate' moslems - and that those 1+ billion 'moderate' moslems have no idea, and do not understand, what their 'faith' requires of them.....

"Hey!!!! I'm a moslem!!

But i have absolutely no idea what the laws and tenets of my faith declare, and what those laws and tenets require of me - being a moslem!

HONEST!!"

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

You're addressing Yadda like one would address a sane person.

I'm not sure why.

Ignorance breeds more ignorance.

I don't believe Yadda is insane, or stupid. If you treat people as such they are less likely to change or expand on their views. I can understand where he and the others are coming from, despite having a differing opinion.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

You're addressing Yadda like one would address a sane person.

I'm not sure why.

You're young: you don't know any better.

I'll bet you a year's salary that you're wrong.

He has some very serious issues that need addressing by a professional.

I just hope that he seeks help soon, or someone close to him gets him the help he needs.

He sounds like the sort of person who could actually be dangerous.

I'll certainly be keeping a close eye on him.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:40pm

Yadda:

You honestly don't believe that political correctness and freedom in democracy has allowed the Islamic to spread out, so to speak?

As for not being able to walk the streets in suburbia and cities, I haven't heard of any attacks other than the 18 year old in Melbourne who attempted to behead a police officer, and believe me, if there were others to reinforce this fear, I'm sure you and a few others would have enlightened us on the matter.

There is a problem here; it isn't what you think, though.

For all of the security and surveillance and the authorities' pledge to protect its people, it hasn't been efficient enough in doing so. For starters, they should have screened people a lot better.

When you hear of terrorist supporters allowed to travel on their brother's VISA, despite the police and the feds knowing, you cannot help but shake your head in wonder. You hear about a terrorist supporter being caught with guns and ammo, he gets off with a fine. You shake your head in wonder.

Now everyone pays for the incompetency; Muslims who are not terrorists are accused of being one, while others are paranoid that Muslims are terrorists. Both sides suffer.

Also, read this: http://www.cfr.org/religion/islam-governing-under-sharia/p8034

According to this not ALL Islamic countries practice the extremities. Though I don't particularly trust the CFR...

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

You're addressing Yadda like one would address a sane person.

I'm not sure why.

That's exactly what I'm talking about, Greg.

I'd say that a few members on this forum need "help".

How is somebody on a forum going to be dangerous to you?

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by John Smith on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:42pm

I'd accept that girl in the OP anytime ..... very cute

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:47pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:42pm:

I'd accept that girl in the OP anytime ..... very cute

Naughty boy. I'm telling your wife.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:47pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

You're addressing Yadda like one would address a sane person.

I'm not sure why.

That's exactly what I'm talking about, Greg.

I'd say that a few members on this forum need "help".

How is somebody on a forum going to be dangerous to you?

I didn't say that he would be dangerous to me.

I think about other people, you know.

If you think that the posts from Yadda are from a sane person, you really must be a lot younger and more naive than I thought.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:47pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

You're addressing Yadda like one would address a sane person.

I'm not sure why.

That's exactly what I'm talking about, Greg.

I'd say that a few members on this forum need "help".

How is somebody on a forum going to be dangerous to you?

I don't really know if he's sane or not, maybe he just has a strange way of typing?

If you're going by the constant references to the bible, isn't that considered religious intolerance. Or is he just insane because of his phobia of Islam?

Neither of those things make you insane or crazy. Differing opinions do not make you insane because that would imply everyone is insane -- or maybe they are. ;)

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 4:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

You're addressing Yadda like one would address a sane person.

I'm not sure why.

Yes, greggery,

I am, a very dangerous person.

People like myself, should be beheaded - for the public good. :)

Yadda said, recently....

Quote:

An idea [i.e. an ideology], can be a dangerous thing!

An idea, can change your mind!

Job 28:28
.....the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.

Proverbs 9:6
Forsake the foolish, and live; and go in the way of understanding.
7 He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame: and he that rebuketh a wicked man getteth himself a blot.
8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.
9 Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.
10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
- George Orwell

"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."
- George OrwelliQuote:

I'll certainly be keeping a close eye on him.

No need.

ASIO have got that 'covered'. :D

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 4:06pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 4:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

You're addressing Yadda like one would address a sane person.

I'm not sure why.

Yes, greggery,

I am, a very dangerous person.

People like myself, should be beheaded - for the public good.

That's where you and I differ (apart from the sane/insane thing): I don't condone violence, or wish harm against anyone.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 4:16pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:40pm:

I'm talking about a general complacency in our 'sophisticated' society, towards LAWLESSNESS.

A LAWLESSNESS which ISLAM also 'enjoins'.

Freedumb,

I do not blame moslems, for our 'circumstance' [re the threat posed to our societies by ISLAM].

I blame people like you and me!!!!

And OUR OWN complacency towards apparent LAWLESSNESS.

AS PER, WHAT I HAVE STATED PREVIOUSLY;

Yadda said....

Quote:

If we tolerate evil, and wickedness, in our midst,
...we, ourselves, will become those, who are evil.

And tolerance of evil, is not 'tolerance'.

It is wickedness!

And today people just don't get that truth.

In fact most people will strenuously deny that logic.

No matter how many times we repeat the phrase, "Tolerance is desirable, and good, and peaceable.",
...our tolerance of what is clearly evil, is not a virtue.

Whenever we choose to be tolerant of evil [in our midst], it is certain, as night follows day, that we ourselves, will become evil.

Our 'tolerance' of evil, merely reveals the wickedness which is ALREADY within us!

And if you are a person who is "tolerant" of evil behaviour, DON'T KID YOURSELF,
...God hates you.

"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."
Karl Popper

"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil."
Thomas Mann

i
Quote:

A simple definition of SANITY/INSANITY.

Typically, an unrestrained sane person will act in ways which are harmless to others, and in ways which are creative, and productive [for himself, others, and society].

And typically, and conversely, an unrestrained INSANE person will act in ways which are harmful and destructive to himself, and, or, others around him.

'Normal' criminal behaviour - in mankind
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1293669294/0#0

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 4:22pm

At least you acknowledge the complacency.

I have similar views to your own. For instance, I oppose those who stand up for the freedoms and civil rights of killers and paedophiles. I oppose the do-gooders travelling to Ebola infested countries to "help" and then come back putting everyone else at risk! This doesn't "help".

I oppose terrorists and the freedoms that they have in this country, which they take advantage of.

I do not, however, oppose a Muslim who is innocent. I know that you think that Islam is beyond reformation, but that isn't true -- it is very capable of doing so and will take encouragement and support. Condemning every Muslim will not change anything, it will only worsen it -- if people like us are close-minded and assume that they are all "evil" then they will be much more inclined to fight on the side that really is evil.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by wally1 on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 4:30pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:42pm:

I'd accept that girl in the OP anytime ..... very cute

Heard herbert is looking for a girl, yadda must have some taste.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 4:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 4:06pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 4:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

You're addressing Yadda like one would address a sane person.

I'm not sure why.

Yes, greggery,

I am, a very dangerous person.

People like myself, should be beheaded - for the public good.

That's where you and I differ (apart from the sane/insane thing):

I don't condone violence, or wish harm against anyone.

greggery,

You are a pacifist.

People like you, don't deserve freedom/liberty.

Why so ?

Because you choose to turn away, to avert your eyes, when you see evil and violence in front of your eyes.

No ?

greggery,

In being an 'advocate' to moslems, you are an apologist [a defender], of murderers and wanna-be-murderers, of rapists, and oppressors.

greggery,

People like yourself would 'advocate' for the rights of a bucket of sewage.

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11iYadda said...

Quote:

Avoiding conflict by appeasing bullies is NOT a path to peace.
Avoiding conflict by surrendering ourselves to evil and violent men, is NOT a path to peace.
Refusing to DISCRIMINATE in favour of virtue and against what we know is evil, is NOT a path to peace.
Being unwilling to defend virtue is NOT a path to peace.
Promoting ~~INDISCRIMINATE~~ UNCRITICAL pacifism when we are confronted by evil and violent men, is NOT a path to peace.
Seeking to avoid making personal sacrifices for virtue and truth, is NOT a path to peace.
Kneeling before evil and violent men [as cowering slaves do], SO AS TO AVOID CONFLICT, is NOT a path to peace.

Yadda said...

Quote:

IMO, ppl like yourself seem to want a 'peace' at any cost.

But, imo morality, or life, doesn't work like that.

Peace comes from defending open truth.

But your logic seems to be;
'Wanting' something, will produce it.

Or;
'If we give bullies what they want, surely, they will be satisfied, and leave us alone.'

They won't.

If you give a bully/thug, what he wants, he will come back again, and again.

And eventually he will take from you, everything that you own.

And the last thing the bully/the thug, will take from you, is your life.

The appeasement of evil men, does not lead to peace.

IMO, this generation has lost the ability to discern between good and evil, between truth and falsehood.

As individuals, we all know, or as adults, we should know by now!, that if we walk away from truth, we will [always!] reap confusion in our lives.

Peace comes from justice.
Justice comes when *we* respect, and defend, free and open truth.
With justice comes peace.
Justice comes from facing up to, and embracing, TRUTH.

We [who seek peace] are kidding ourselves [we are living in la la land!], if we believe that aggression, or violence, is 'overcome', by our surrender to it!

Or if we believe that the appeasement of evil and wicked men, is a way to peace.

The appeasement of evil [men], does not lead to peace.

The aggression and violence of evil men, is not overcome, by our surrender, to the designs of those evil men.

That path leads only to slavery, and death.

How is peace achieved, in the real world?

Peace comes through sacrifice, and our willingness to fight for truth, and to fight for what is right[eous].

And, judgement.

Peace among men comes as a consequence of righteous judgement.

Peace among men comes when wicked men are judged, and when their fellows [other wicked men] come to understand that their wicked actions, will bring judgement upon them.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 4:42pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:47pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

You're addressing Yadda like one would address a sane person.

I'm not sure why.

That's exactly what I'm talking about, Greg.

I'd say that a few members on this forum need "help".

How is somebody on a forum going to be dangerous to you?

I don't really know if he's sane or not, maybe he just has a strange way of typing?

LOL

Yup.

I've survived 6 decades plus, on this planet.

So i'm not likely to be a danger to myself.

And in those 6 decades plus, i have never been in goal.

And i have never been charged with any criminal offence.

But i am no 'saint'. ;)

But my God loves me. :)

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 4:49pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:53pm:

I don't really know if he's sane or not, maybe he just has a strange way of typing?

If you're going by the constant references to the bible, isn't that considered religious intolerance. Or is he just insane because of his phobia of Islam?

Neither of those things make you insane or crazy.

Differing opinions do not make you insane because that would imply everyone is insane -- or maybe they are. ;)

Freedumb,

All the world is mad!!!! .....except me, and thee!

And even thou art a little strange, ......sometimes!!!! ;)

p.s.

Freedumb,

You should use the nick Freedame, imo.

Freedumb,

Sounds a little self-derogatory, to freedom.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Caliph adamant on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 5:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

You're young: you don't know any better.

Your senile, how would you know anything?
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

I'll bet you a year's salary that you're wrong.

My tax bill pays for 2 married pensioner couples a year. You wouldn't be able to afford my bar tab.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

He has some very serious issues that need addressing by a professional.

I suggest you look to your, sadly overlooked metal issues before issuing quack statements about others. My brother deals with people like you all the time, if you want the going rate drop us a note.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

I just hope that he seeks help soon, or someone close to him gets him the help he needs.

I am trying to help GP, reach out pm me if you feel your problems are too OTT for others to read! You know its never too late to go to rehab, said a lady who is now dead.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

He sounds like the sort of person who could actually be dangerous.

GP that's a delusional statement, see a mental health practitioner, Urgently

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

I'll certainly be keeping a close eye on him.

Too late ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 5:49pm

Adamant wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 5:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

You're young: you don't know any better.

Your senile ...

My senile what?

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:20pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!

OK, I think you've made that rather clear here and in multiple other threads. Do you have to keep repeating it? You're entitled to not accept Muslims but do we have to be bombarded with announcements of your choice continually?

Doesn't your non-acceptance, based as it is on prejudice and religious bigotry rather indicate that its ideologically driven rather than made as the result of a rational choice? ::)

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 7:06pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 4:49pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:53pm:

I don't really know if he's sane or not, maybe he just has a strange way of typing?

If you're going by the constant references to the bible, isn't that considered religious intolerance. Or is he just insane because of his phobia of Islam?

Neither of those things make you insane or crazy.

Differing opinions do not make you insane because that would imply everyone is insane -- or maybe they are. ;)

I am a little strange, and don't worry, people say that I'm a nutter as well.

Yes, the world is mad.

Have you ever heard of somebody referring to democracy as dumbocracy? Well it's similar to that. If I was offended by it, I wouldn't have used it in the first place. ;)

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 10:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:20pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!

OK, I think you've made that rather clear here and in multiple other threads.

Do you have to keep repeating it?

You're entitled to not accept Muslims but do we have to be bombarded with announcements of your choice continually?

Yes, i have to keep ~~beating the dumb~~ beating the drum.

Unitl i can see change. :o

Quote:

Doesn't your non-acceptance, based as it is on prejudice and religious bigotry rather indicate that its ideologically driven rather than made as the result of a rational choice? ::)

Brian,

Do keep up!!!!!

I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems, because 'the moslem' chooses ISLAM, which is a philosophy which makes LAWLESSNESS and murder 'lawful', to 'the moslem'.

AS PER.....
IMAGE....

"Behead those who insult ISLAM"
Islamic Protest - IN AUSTRALIA - on the streets of Sydney from Hyde Park to George Streets, September 15, 2012.

THAT [my response], is NOT religious bigotry [against 'the moslem'], Brian.

It is common sense.

Psalms 106:3
Blessed are they that keep judgment, and he that doeth righteousness at all times.

e.g.
I don't oppose Chinese Shintoists, or Buddhists, or Hindus, or Seventh Day Adventists, or Lutherans.

Because those beliefs do not propose to make LAWLESSNESS and murder, by their adherents 'lawful'.

BUT ISLAM DOES!!

Q.
Who chooses to embrace a philosophy [ISLAM], which teaches them ['the moslem'] that it is 'lawful' for them ['the moslem'], to murder those who do not believe, as they believe ???

A.
Those wanna-be-murderers, MOSLEMS.

ISLAM, in all of its 'glory'.

"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg

THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/

Yadda said....

Quote:

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Soren on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 10:16pm

Islam is a totalitarian ideology. It aims to establish dominance across the globe, to have sharia law as the law of every land.

Why is it more acceptable and deserving of accommodation that any other totalitarian ideology?

Please explain.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Soren on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 10:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:20pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!

Why do you accept and support the introduction of sharia law, Brain? That's what Islam is about. Why do you support it?

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 10:26pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 7:06pm:

Yes, the world is mad.

Yes it certainly is, Freedumb, ....by any reasonable yardstick of measure of madness/insanity, imo.

AS PER.....

Quote:

'Normal' criminal behaviour - in mankind
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1293669294/0#0

And way out in front in the insanity stakes, is ISLAM, and its adherents, imo.

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."
ISLAMIC religious scholar, Sayyid Qutb

ISLAMIC 'religious' doctrine, promotes, justifies and makes lawful, any violence and every death, during 'Jihad operations' conducted by the moslem in 'Allah's cause'.

AND......

ISLAM, in all of its 'glory'.

"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg

THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/i

Quote:

Have you ever heard of somebody referring to democracy as dumbocracy?

Well it's similar to that. If I was offended by it, I wouldn't have used it in the first place. ;)

Yes i have.

OK, fair do's. ;)

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 10:28pm

I don't accept muslims because they don't accept anyone else

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:10am

Yadda wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 10:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:20pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!

Yes, i have to keep ~~beating the dumb~~ beating the drum.

Unitl i can see change. :o

Repetition of a lie does not change that it is a lie, Y. ::)

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:10am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 10:28pm:

I don't accept muslims because they don't accept anyone else

My Muslim friends and co-workers accept me, Sprint. ::)

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:19am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:10am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 10:28pm:

I don't accept muslims because they don't accept anyone else

My Muslim friends and co-workers accept me, Sprint. ::)

And it is known of old, that;

"Birds of a feather, flock together."

:)

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:34am

Yadda wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:19am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:10am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 10:28pm:

I don't accept muslims because they don't accept anyone else

My Muslim friends and co-workers accept me, Sprint. ::)

And it is known of old, that;

"Birds of a feather, flock together."

I can't find that in my copy of The Bible or even in the Q'ran, Y. ;)

So, how are things down at the ADL Klaven meeting? ;D

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Hot Breath on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:46am

Yadda wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!

OK, good on you. I choose to accept Muslims. Does that mean I get to spam about it as well? :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Bubba Zanetti on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:52am

It amazes me with muslim women that they wear head coverings but dress themselves in tight fitting thin clothes. You see more from them than the average woman. I've even seen a few muslim camel toes. The other day I witnessed a woman in a full covering (nijab) with a pair of NIKES on a a bag full of pizza shapes and coke. I didn't think they ate those imperialist titbits.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:56am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:10am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 10:28pm:

I don't accept muslims because they don't accept anyone else

My Muslim friends and co-workers accept me, Sprint. ::)

try going to an islamic country carrying a bible, wearing a cross or speedos.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:59am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:56am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:10am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 10:28pm:

I don't accept muslims because they don't accept anyone else

My Muslim friends and co-workers accept me, Sprint. ::)

try going to an islamic country carrying a bible, wearing a cross or speedos.

Brian's Muslim friends and co-workers are here, in Australia.

They accept him.

Why can't you accept that?

(my Muslim friends and co-workers accept me too, by the way)

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:01am

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

... a bag full of pizza shapes and coke. I didn't think they ate those imperialist titbits.

What made you think that?

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Bubba Zanetti on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:04am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

... a bag full of pizza shapes and coke. I didn't think they ate those imperialist titbits.

What made you think that?

If I hated a country I wouldn't eat their food. That's just me.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:05am

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:04am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

... a bag full of pizza shapes and coke. I didn't think they ate those imperialist titbits.

What made you think that?

If I hated a country I wouldn't eat their food. That's just me.

What makes you think that she hates this country?

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Hot Breath on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:06am

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

I never realised you were that ignorant... ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Bubba Zanetti on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:07am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:05am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:04am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

... a bag full of pizza shapes and coke. I didn't think they ate those imperialist titbits.

What made you think that?

If I hated a country I wouldn't eat their food. That's just me.

What makes you think that she hates this country?

No, America. In relation to the bag full of coke zero she had and the nikes. It just find it funny how fundamental Islam denounces the west but suck every drop of goodness out of it.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:09am

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:05am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:04am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

... a bag full of pizza shapes and coke. I didn't think they ate those imperialist titbits.

What made you think that?

If I hated a country I wouldn't eat their food. That's just me.

What makes you think that she hates this country?

No, America. In relation to the bag full of coke zero she had and the nikes. It just find it funny how fundamental Islam denounces the west but suck every drop of goodness out of it.

What makes you think that she's an American hating fundamentalist?

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Bubba Zanetti on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:10am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:05am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:04am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

... a bag full of pizza shapes and coke. I didn't think they ate those imperialist titbits.

What made you think that?

If I hated a country I wouldn't eat their food. That's just me.

What makes you think that she hates this country?

No, America. In relation to the bag full of coke zero she had and the nikes. It just find it funny how fundamental Islam denounces the west but suck every drop of goodness out of it.

What makes you think that she's an American hating fundamentalist?

Just a hunch.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:19am

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:10am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:05am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:04am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

... a bag full of pizza shapes and coke. I didn't think they ate those imperialist titbits.

What made you think that?

If I hated a country I wouldn't eat their food. That's just me.

What makes you think that she hates this country?

No, America. In relation to the bag full of coke zero she had and the nikes. It just find it funny how fundamental Islam denounces the west but suck every drop of goodness out of it.

What makes you think that she's an American hating fundamentalist?

Just a hunch.

At least you're honest about your ignorance.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:20am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:56am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:10am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 10:28pm:

I don't accept muslims because they don't accept anyone else

My Muslim friends and co-workers accept me, Sprint. ::)

try going to an islamic country carrying a bible, wearing a cross or speedos.

:D :D :D

I shouldn't be laughing but that is quite a hilarious mental image.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Bubba Zanetti on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:23am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:19am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:10am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:05am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:04am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

... a bag full of pizza shapes and coke. I didn't think they ate those imperialist titbits.

What made you think that?

If I hated a country I wouldn't eat their food. That's just me.

What makes you think that she hates this country?

No, America. In relation to the bag full of coke zero she had and the nikes. It just find it funny how fundamental Islam denounces the west but suck every drop of goodness out of it.

What makes you think that she's an American hating fundamentalist?

Just a hunch.

At least you're honest about your ignorance.

See I actually live with islam. In fact I live in the highest Muslim area in Australia. You don't. In my experience ( which is greater than yours) women in burqas and nijabs are a little more staunch than your average muslim.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:24am

Brian has a thing called "personal experience" in this matter.

Now if what you guys were saying was true, he'd be dead by now.

This proves that not all Muslims have violent and evil intentions.

I agree that a large majority do, the terrorist groups and their cowardly supporters who cheer them on in the sidelines.

I accept Muslims if they practice their religion peacefully and comply with Australia's laws. Many do this.

I wouldn't accept a sharia law, having two laws in one country is bound to cause a lot of problems and would be used to full advantage by the terrorists, who have already taken advantage of this country and what it stands for.. I doubt our powers-that-be would allow it to happen anyway. You have nothing to fear. Tell me, what do you do when you see Muslims in public?

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:37am

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:19am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:10am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:05am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:04am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

... a bag full of pizza shapes and coke. I didn't think they ate those imperialist titbits.

What made you think that?

If I hated a country I wouldn't eat their food. That's just me.

What makes you think that she hates this country?

No, America. In relation to the bag full of coke zero she had and the nikes. It just find it funny how fundamental Islam denounces the west but suck every drop of goodness out of it.

What makes you think that she's an American hating fundamentalist?

Just a hunch.

At least you're honest about your ignorance.

Talk to them often, do you?

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:38am

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

This proves that not all Muslims have violent and evil intentions.

I agree that a large majority do ...

Seriously?

A large majority?

What makes you think that?

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Bubba Zanetti on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:41am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:37am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:19am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:10am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:05am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:04am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

... a bag full of pizza shapes and coke. I didn't think they ate those imperialist titbits.

What made you think that?

If I hated a country I wouldn't eat their food. That's just me.

What makes you think that she hates this country?

No, America. In relation to the bag full of coke zero she had and the nikes. It just find it funny how fundamental Islam denounces the west but suck every drop of goodness out of it.

What makes you think that she's an American hating fundamentalist?

Just a hunch.

At least you're honest about your ignorance.

Talk to them often, do you?

Oh yes.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:01pm

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:41am:

Oh yes.

Chatting them up, hey?

Chasing that Muslim camel toe?

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Bubba Zanetti on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:01pm:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:41am:

Oh yes.

Chatting them up, hey?

Chasing that Muslim camel toe?

Muslim women are very hard to talk to. They are taught not to talk to strange men. Especially men who aren't Muslim. My next door neighbour is muslim. So are many of my workmates. Turkish people are the ones I've gotten closest to. I've known Egyptians, Lebanese, Turks. Most are nice people. Some hate our guts and I've met a few of them. You have to be very careful around Lebanese. I talk to muslim workmates mostly everyday. Do you??

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:13pm

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:01pm:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:41am:

Oh yes.

Chatting them up, hey?

Chasing that Muslim camel toe?

Yes. Every single (work) day.

Moreover, I talk to my Muslim neighbours most days.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Bubba Zanetti on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:13pm:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 12:01pm:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:41am:

Oh yes.

Chatting them up, hey?

Chasing that Muslim camel toe?

Yes. Every single (work) day.

Moreover, I talk to my Muslim neighbours most days.

I don't hate muslim people. Lebanese are family people first, both Christian and Muslim. Then their religion is second. Everybody else doesn't mean that much to them. Some are nice but there's always a barrier with them. They love money which is status to them and are always doing their best to get it. Being poorly educated and loving money is a bad combination. They are always loud and outgoing but I'm always careful around them. The muslim issue is a big thing in Sydney. There are big issues within the communities and with other communities. I hear something everyday . It's an on the ground problem which the media makes worse.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 4:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:38am:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

This proves that not all Muslims have violent and evil intentions.

I agree that a large majority do ...

Seriously?

A large majority?

What makes you think that?

In the middle east, those who have ties or are a part of the groups such as the Taliban, Al Quaeda and ISIS...

What makes me think this?

A group such as ISIS would not pose such a threat and would not be in existence to this day if not for the financial support and the amount of people they have recruited to their cause.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 6:30pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 4:37pm:

In the middle east, those who have ties or are a part of the groups such as the Taliban, Al Quaeda and ISIS...

What makes me think this?

A group such as ISIS would not pose such a threat......

~~ISIS~~ ISLAM is the - source - of the threat.

It is ISLAM which is the 'motivator' of moslem violence.

'The lure of ISIS', comes from the promises, made by ISLAM, to its fighters.

It is the prospect of Paradise and all of those virgins that are on offer, that is the lure - promises that made in Allah's religion, to the moslem individual.

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme. "
Koran 9.111

v. 9.111, in its guarantee of paradise to those who "fight in His cause, and slay and are slain" in Allah's cause, is clearly encouraging the martyrdom of moslems, in 'the Cause of Allah'.

Their reward, is in paradise.

Suicide bombing, anyone?

If 'the moslem' ever has an 'opportunity', to fight in Allah's cause, then Allah's religion tells him, that 'the moslem' has an obligation to Allah, to fight.

Below - a respected moslem scholar urging moslems, in the UK, to maintain a deceitful relationship with the UK non-moslem community, FOR THE PURPOSE OF MOSLEMS STRENGTHENING A MALICIOUS AND VIOLENT INTENT [on the moslem part, towards those who are not moslems].

Quote:

Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims
London, Sept.8 [2007]
A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.
Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.
A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...a regular visitor to Britain.
Polite and softly spoken....
He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece

IMAGE...

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami

Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong

"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-islamic-behavior/

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 6:56pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 4:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:38am:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

This proves that not all Muslims have violent and evil intentions.

I agree that a large majority do ...

Seriously?

A large majority?

What makes you think that?

There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, and you believe that "a large majority ... have violent and evil intentions".

Get off the grass. ::)

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 7:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 6:56pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 4:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:38am:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

This proves that not all Muslims have violent and evil intentions.

I agree that a large majority do ...

Seriously?

A large majority?

What makes you think that?

There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, and you believe that "a large majority ... have violent and evil intentions".

Get off the grass. ::)

Haven't touched grass in a very long time, Greg. ;)

Does it really matter?

It isn't like I'm saying all of them are like that. Okay, maybe not a "large majority"... but maybe too many of them. Think about it -- if there wasn't a fair amount of Islamic people fighting for extremist causes, we wouldn't be having this discussion now, would we?

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 7:20pm

Quote:

This tactic isn't exclusive to Islam, Yadda. Political powers use it as well.

It's a very effective tactic, but this is one individual; my point is, does every single Muslim think like this? Can that be proved?

I certainly won't be conforming to Islam and I doubt very much it will get that far. Our pollies are stupid, but that stupid? ;)

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Karnal on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 7:40pm

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:19am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:10am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:05am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:04am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

Bubba Zanetti wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

... a bag full of pizza shapes and coke. I didn't think they ate those imperialist titbits.

What made you think that?

If I hated a country I wouldn't eat their food. That's just me.

What makes you think that she hates this country?

No, America. In relation to the bag full of coke zero she had and the nikes. It just find it funny how fundamental Islam denounces the west but suck every drop of goodness out of it.

What makes you think that she's an American hating fundamentalist?

Just a hunch.

At least you're honest about your ignorance.

Homo, Roti Hill.has bugger all Muslims and you know it. It was founded by Curries, and you know this too.

The only Muslims you know are the ones you don’t even know are Muslims.

Cunning, no?

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Karnal on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 7:43pm

Soren wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 10:16pm:

Because Gud loves homos.

Hates tabouli, loves homos.

Jolly world, eh?

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 10:43pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 7:20pm:

Quote:

Freedumb,

'does every single Muslim think like this?' ???????????

!!!!!!!!!!!!

Freedumb,

You are referring to a 'moslem', as though a 'moslem', was 'a blank piece of paper' !

That shocks me!!!!

Freedumb,

What do you think that a 'moslem' is ?

What do you think that a 'moslem' 'thinks' ?

Freedumb,

Is the woman who lives next door to you a 'moslem', because she dresses 'like a moslem', or perhaps, because she tells you that she is a 'moslem' ?

Freedumb,

Is the woman who lives next door to you a 'moslem', because she declares;

"Hey!!!! I'm a moslem!!

???

Freedumb,

Is the woman who lives next door to you STILL a 'moslem', if she declares;

"Hey!!!! I'm a moslem!!

But i have absolutely no idea what the laws and tenets of my faith declare, and what those laws and tenets require of me!

HONEST!!"i

Freedumb,

Do you believe, that moslems - who live in Australia - do not worship Allah, AND, revere Mohammed ???

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

From ISLAMIC LAW....

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

One of the posters on this thread said ; "There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world."

Freedumb,

What do you believe, that those moslems 1.6 billion believe [i.e. which makes them moslems] ?

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Karnal on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:31pm

Y, stop bothering the customers.

Go to the kitchen and annoy the staff if you have to.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:46pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 4:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:38am:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

This proves that not all Muslims have violent and evil intentions.

I agree that a large majority do ...

Seriously?

A large majority?

What makes you think that?

Yet, Freedumb who are their main victims in the Middle East? Muslims who don't support them or accept their views about the religion they share. I'd suggest they have a minority of willing supporters only slightly larger than their own numbers. There is a larger group of unwilling supporters though.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 5:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:46pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 4:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:38am:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

This proves that not all Muslims have violent and evil intentions.

I agree that a large majority do ...

Seriously?

A large majority?

What makes you think that?

I agree, and a percentage of who join them probably do so to avoid getting killed. Fear-mongering is a very effective tool of control.. just look at the phobia in these forums. ;)

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 5:23pm

Yadda I am well aware that Muslims believe in Allah and all of that jazz...

But as I have stated in another post "Just because people are pledged to a particular religion it doesn't mean they comply with it."

Also, people have their own interpretations of what is written in these "sacred tomes". When people didn't like what was written in it, but still wanted a place in God's holy world, they changed it.

I've also read somewhere that the Koran has different translations or editions... if I'm wrong, let me know.

Why do you think there are so many different Christian denominations? King Henry the VIII created his own branch simply so he could divorce his wife and marry somebody else.

There are probably a crap tonne of different spiritual beliefs/school of thoughts out there that don't exist today because the catholic church laid waste to it -- they didn't conform to their interpretations, so they were "heretics" and had to die. Ever heard of the cathars? Not many people have because the beloved catholic church destroyed a lot of history.

This situation is very much the same today -- extremists are trying to abolish Muslims who don't conform, and they want to abolish westerners and everybody else as well. They clearly haven't evolved from the barbaric behaviour of the older days, where as other religions have. Again, it's about the people and their obsessive, extremist beliefs -- NOT the Muslims as a whole.

But of course, typing this out is like trying to get blood out of stone. :D

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Hot Breath on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 5:34pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 5:23pm:

Yadda and Co. are religious zealots and bigots Freedumb. You won't get any admission on their part of any wrong doing by their pet religion. They are the perfect mirror images of those Muslims they claim to be opposed to. If you just got them to change the Guernseys they wore, they'd fit perfectly into the line up of IS, the Taliban, Boko Haram, al-Shabab or any of the other Islamic extremist groups. ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 5:39pm

|dev|null wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 5:34pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 5:23pm:

Yes, but Ozpol internet terrorism isn't something to have a phobia about. ;)

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 6:14pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 7:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 6:56pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 4:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:38am:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

This proves that not all Muslims have violent and evil intentions.

I agree that a large majority do ...

Seriously?

A large majority?

What makes you think that?

There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, and you believe that "a large majority ... have violent and evil intentions".

Get off the grass. ::)

Haven't touched grass in a very long time, Greg. ;)

Does it really matter?

It isn't like I'm saying all of them are like that. Okay, maybe not a "large majority"... but maybe too many of them.

One is too many.

However, the ones you are talking about are a small minority, not a large majority.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 9:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 6:14pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 7:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 6:56pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 4:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:38am:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

This proves that not all Muslims have violent and evil intentions.

I agree that a large majority do ...

Seriously?

A large majority?

What makes you think that?

There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, and you believe that "a large majority ... have violent and evil intentions".

Get off the grass. ::)

Haven't touched grass in a very long time, Greg. ;)

Does it really matter?

It isn't like I'm saying all of them are like that. Okay, maybe not a "large majority"... but maybe too many of them.

One is too many.

However, the ones you are talking about are a small minority, not a large majority.

If so, this minority needs to get smaller.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 9:03pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 9:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 6:14pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 7:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 6:56pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 4:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:38am:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

This proves that not all Muslims have violent and evil intentions.

I agree that a large majority do ...

Seriously?

A large majority?

What makes you think that?

There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, and you believe that "a large majority ... have violent and evil intentions".

Get off the grass. ::)

Haven't touched grass in a very long time, Greg. ;)

Does it really matter?

It isn't like I'm saying all of them are like that. Okay, maybe not a "large majority"... but maybe too many of them.

One is too many.

However, the ones you are talking about are a small minority, not a large majority.

If so, this minority needs to get smaller.

Absolutely.

One is too many.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Yadda on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 9:46pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 5:23pm:

Yadda I am well aware that Muslims believe in Allah and all of that jazz...

But as I have stated in another post "Just because people are pledged to a particular religion it doesn't mean they comply with it."

Also, people have their own interpretations of what is written in these "sacred tomes".

When people didn't like what was written in it, but still wanted a place in God's holy world, they changed it.

I've also read somewhere that the Koran has different translations or editions... if I'm wrong, let me know.

Why do you think there are so many different Christian denominations? King Henry the VIII created his own branch simply so he could divorce his wife and marry somebody else.

There are probably a crap tonne of different spiritual beliefs/school of thoughts out there that don't exist today because the catholic church laid waste to it -- they didn't conform to their interpretations, so they were "heretics" and had to die. Ever heard of the cathars? Not many people have because the beloved catholic church destroyed a lot of history.

This situation is very much the same today -- extremists are trying to abolish Muslims who don't conform, and they want to abolish westerners and everybody else as well. They clearly haven't evolved from the barbaric behaviour of the older days, where as other religions have.

Again, it's about the people and their obsessive, extremist beliefs -- NOT the Muslims as a whole.

But of course, typing this out is like trying to get blood out of stone. :D

You are wrong, and badly mistaken, imo.

Freedumb,

You advocate, for the tolerance of the moslem community in Australia.

Freedumb,

I can't say it any plainer that this ------>

ISLAM promotes LAWLESSNESS in men.

ISLAM promotes LAWLESSNESS in men.

ISLAM promotes LAWLESSNESS in men.

And 'the moslem' is a human being who has joined himself/herself, to what ISLAM is.

Freedumb,

CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF ISLAM, .....OF ISLAM BEING EVIL, AND PROMOTING EVIL, AND LAWLESSNESS IN MAN ????

Freedumb,

IMO, this/these are among the people who you are advocating for.....

A Hizb ut-Tahrir spokesman in Australia, speaking to 'Jihad', and to the ambition of worldwide moslem rule - Dec 24, 2012.

This person - this Australian moslem - is talking about the implementation of the law of Mainstream ISLAM !

Quote:

"...that is the obligation [upon the pure moslem]....[to] carry the light of ISLAM to the rest of the world."

"...How? Not with flowers....It was the - ARMY - of moslems which started [the worldwide spread of ISLAM's influence]....That is Jihad."

"...That is Jihad....It is not defensive Jihad. [Jihad, is not staying where you live, 'practising' Allah's religion.]"

"...[in a place where Sharia is not the law....] You would be in the heart of somewhere else to carry your religion [there]....Is that extremist? I don't care."

"...Russia knows that moslems will knock on their doors....Russia was at war with ISLAM for years and years....They [Russia] know what ISLAM is."

"...[In the established caliphate, Sharia will be 'the law'] from day one. [Sharia] courts will be given constitutions....We will stop all the stuff....these civil rights....All forbidden things in the caliphate will be stopped from day one....all forbidden things will stop."

"...From day one, we will declare that we withdraw from the UN, and we will withdraw from all international associations.....[there will be no infidel embassies.]....They don't [will not?] have embassies in our countries."

"...Lets take the education system....[from day one] We will not teach any foreign language in our schools....Foreign languages will be taught at universities - because we need it to carry the dawa [the invitation to ISLAM] to others...They [our children] will learn [only] the Arabic language....The Koran language will be the only state language."

Australian Islamist: We Will Establish a Caliphate, Instate Shari'a, Make Arabic Official Language
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAFbH5Zkrxo

Freedumb,

Of course, this guy [above] - a moslem living in Australia - bears no 'resemblance' to the 'nice' moslems, who you want us to tolerate.

:P

We have to part 'ways', Freedumb.

I can't walk with you.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Freedumb on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 10:00pm

No, I advocate for the tolerance of peaceful Muslims who comply with Australian law, but apparently this is some fairy tale concept for you...

That man you have referenced me too, in my opinion, needs a bullet. THAT we can agree on. He is not going to get his way, there will not be a destruction of civil rights and a forced Islamic rule over our society. There is nothing to fear in that regard except for the ramblings of religious fanatics.

My concern is how effective the authorities and the intelligence agencies are in dealing with these terrorists.

Title: Re: I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Post by Karnal on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 10:06pm

Y, are you casting your spells here again? I read your post and came over all queer.

I don’t know if hypnotism is within the rules here, but better not let Sprint find out. He’ll report you.

Still, Islam promotes lawlessness in men, so we’d better lock the men up for their own good.

You can convert to being a female if you’d like. Y, any chance you could blink me up a nice pair of C cups?