Tony Abbott is on his way to Jakarta amid a warning from Indonesia's president-elect about Australia's Navy engaging in people smuggling and dumping them in Indonesia.

Meanwhile Julie Bishop has made it plainly known to all the Australian Navy cant navigate its way around a bath tub, let alone open sea.

Sounds more like you have a green branch stuck up your A.

Well and truly smashed Kev 707 record, is he passing on a brown paper bag instead of being the recipient

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:37pm:

Tony Abbott is on his way to Jakarta amid a warning from Indonesia's president-elect about Australia's Navy engaging in people smuggling and dumping them in Indonesia. Meanwhile Julie Bishop has made it plainly known to all the Australian Navy cant navigate its way around a bath tub, let alone open sea.

He's gone over to make an offer Indonesia can't refuse. It pays to be the wealthy country, money buys all sorts of dodgy deals.

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:37pm:

Tony Abbott is on his way to Jakarta amid a warning from Indonesia's president-elect about Australia's Navy engaging in people smuggling and dumping them in Indonesia.

You can't dump people into a country if that was their starting point.

Any noise coming out of Indonesia is for domestic consumption. Jokowi has to cobble together a coalition that will get legislation thru the minefield.


Quote:

But Jokowi has it worse. While Modi’s Bharatiya Janata Party won a mandate in a landslide, Jokowi’s political party, the Partai Demokrasi Indonesia Perjuangan (which translates as Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle), garnered only a minority in the nation’s parliament in April elections, which means he’ll have to govern in a potentially messy coalition. Jokowi’s own victory was more muted as well. He won 53% of the vote to best his chief rival, former general Prabowo Subianto, who may contest the results and drag out the election’s conclusion. “A narrow victory for Jokowi may not be sufficient to empower the newly elected president to carry out all the desired reforms,” worries Societe Generale economist Kunal Kumar Kundu. http://time.com/3026972/the-big-challenge-for-indonesias-new-president-proving-democracy-works/

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:37pm:

Tony Abbott is on his way to Jakarta amid a warning from Indonesia's president-elect about Australia's Navy engaging in people smuggling and dumping them in Indonesia. Meanwhile Julie Bishop has made it plainly known to all the Australian Navy cant navigate its way around a bath tub, let alone open sea.

Pull the other one.
Those people smugglers are / were Indonesian nationals working on Indonesian vessels whose last port was in Indonesia.
And those Indonesians and their passengers will continue to go back to where they come from.
Perhaps the Indonesian PM should learn to respect our sovereignty before expecting the same from us.

"Abbott licks Jakarta's bum."

Does it taste like chicken?

Once on a ship of the Royal Australian Navy, you have reached Australia and are under its protection.

Morrison use of Patrol and other Boats for people smuggling into Indonesia shall be answered for!

Lick away Tony if you not worn your tongue out on the Chinese!

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:15pm:

"Abbott licks Jakarta's bum." Does it taste like chicken?

I think Peking Duck, you can suck on that!

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:16pm:

Once on a ship of the Royal Australian Navy, you have reached Australia and are under its protection. Morrison use of Patrol and other Boats for people smuggling into Indonesia shall be answered for! Lick away Tony if you not worn your tongue out on the Chinese!

Wrong. Naval vessels are treated differently from Australian soil in that they are considered protected military facilities. You don't have the same rights onboard a RAN vessel like you do if you land on Australian soil.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:24pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 6:16pm: Once on a ship of the Royal Australian Navy, you have reached Australia and are under its protection. Morrison use of Patrol and other Boats for people smuggling into Indonesia shall be answered for! Lick away Tony if you not worn your tongue out on the Chinese! Wrong. Naval vessels are treated differently from Australian soil in that they are considered protected military facilities. You don't have the same rights onboard a RAN vessel like you do if you land on Australian soil.

That's true.

On a RAN vessel you can be raped in the arse, and no one can hear you scream.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:27pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 6:24pm: DaS Energy wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 6:16pm: Once on a ship of the Royal Australian Navy, you have reached Australia and are under its protection. Morrison use of Patrol and other Boats for people smuggling into Indonesia shall be answered for! Lick away Tony if you not worn your tongue out on the Chinese! Wrong. Naval vessels are treated differently from Australian soil in that they are considered protected military facilities. You don't have the same rights onboard a RAN vessel like you do if you land on Australian soil. That's true. On a RAN vessel you can be raped in the arse, and no one can hear you scream.

Comments about being raped in the arse and asking what licking Indon bum tastes like. Are you trying to tell us something? Are you about to "come out"?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 6:27pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 6:24pm: DaS Energy wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 6:16pm: Once on a ship of the Royal Australian Navy, you have reached Australia and are under its protection. Morrison use of Patrol and other Boats for people smuggling into Indonesia shall be answered for! Lick away Tony if you not worn your tongue out on the Chinese! Wrong. Naval vessels are treated differently from Australian soil in that they are considered protected military facilities. You don't have the same rights onboard a RAN vessel like you do if you land on Australian soil. That's true. On a RAN vessel you can be raped in the arse, and no one can hear you scream. Comments about being raped in the arse and asking what licking Indon bum tastes like. Are you trying to tell us something? Are you about to "come out"?

The RAN rapes anyone in the arse.  They don't have to be gay.

So, can we add homophobia to your list of phobias now?



(BTW: I wasn't suggesting that you would scream.  Throwing a hot dog down a hallway, and all that)

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:24pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 6:16pm: Once on a ship of the Royal Australian Navy, you have reached Australia and are under its protection. Morrison use of Patrol and other Boats for people smuggling into Indonesia shall be answered for! Lick away Tony if you not worn your tongue out on the Chinese! Wrong. Naval vessels are treated differently from Australian soil in that they are considered protected military facilities. You don't have the same rights onboard a RAN vessel like you do if you land on Australian soil.

A sovereign ship at sea is considered to be as much sovereign territory as an embassy.

Any other interpretation is false and self-serving.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:24pm:

[quote author=Waterloo1 link=1413686266/7#7 date=1413706605]Once on a ship of the Royal Australian Navy, you have reached Australia and are under its protection. Morrison use of Patrol and other Boats for people smuggling into Indonesia shall be answered for! Lick away Tony if you not worn your tongue out on the Chinese!

Wrong. Naval vessels are treated differently from Australian soil in that they are considered protected military facilities. You don't have the same rights onboard a RAN vessel like you do if you land on Australian soil.[/quote

Bullshit!

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 6:15pm:

"Abbott licks Jakarta's bum." Does it taste like chicken?

Armpit?

So when a ship is attacked at sea, as an embassy on land, that is not considered an act of war?

The protection provided for a ship is a matter of local security, not a differentiation between a piece of sovereign territory.  Portions of an embassy are equally protected, but the territory on which it stands is considered sovereign territory of the state to which it belongs.

Same applies to a ship at sea.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 7:50pm:

So when a ship is attacked at sea, as an embassy on land, that is not considered an act of war? The protection provided for a ship is a matter of local security, not a differentiation between a piece of sovereign territory.  Portions of an embassy are equally protected, but the territory on which it stands is considered sovereign territory of the state to which it belongs. Same applies to a ship at sea.

Call it what you will.
People smuggling is illegal, and our forces are right in stopping the smuggling by any means necessary.
And when these people are found and detained
on board our vessels, the Navy have orders to get their carcasses off our sovereign vessels and into an orange life boat and point to them the way North.
Just the same as a US warship stopped and boarded a North Korean freighter on the high seas which was loaded with missiles destined for terrorists in the middle east.
Naturally the ship never made it's destination.
Just the same as other US Customs and Navy which stops smugglers vessels from Cuba entering the USA every week.
Just the same as the Israeli Navy which stopped those Turkish vessels loaded with terrorists in the Mediterranean Sea three years ago from entering Gaza.
And if any criminal gang or any rogue state want to make an issue of their illegal activities being halted, they are yet to do so.

Be like his three years spent in a catholic homosexual hotbed. Tongue out tony.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 10:53pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 7:50pm: So when a ship is attacked at sea, as an embassy on land, that is not considered an act of war? The protection provided for a ship is a matter of local security, not a differentiation between a piece of sovereign territory.  Portions of an embassy are equally protected, but the territory on which it stands is considered sovereign territory of the state to which it belongs. Same applies to a ship at sea. Call it what you will. People smuggling is illegal, and our forces are right in stopping the smuggling by any means necessary. And when these people are found and detained on board our vessels, the Navy have orders to get their carcasses off our sovereign vessels and into an orange life boat and point to them the way North. Just the same as a US warship stopped and boarded a North Korean freighter on the high seas which was loaded with missiles destined for terrorists in the middle east. Naturally the ship never made it's destination. Just the same as other US Customs and Navy which stops smugglers vessels from Cuba entering the USA every week. Just the same as the Israeli Navy which stopped those Turkish vessels loaded with terrorists in the Mediterranean Sea three years ago from entering Gaza. And if any criminal gang or any rogue state want to make an issue of their illegal activities being halted, they are yet to do so.

Your words!
Some unknown person but obviously of rank ordered an Australian warship to intercept a vessel in international water and take all from it (unknown if it then used for target practice, sea cocks opened, or set to drift, or crewed to return for further cargo) those taken from the boat are then held prisoner until the Australian warship has invaded Indonesian waters with criminal intention and put non  Indonesians ashore.

On average abbott has been to Indonesia once every three months, Indonesia has got something abbott not want the Australian people to know about.


Tuesday 28 May 2013 6:33PM

(ABC: Laban Laisila)

In this month's budget, Australia increased its aid budget for Indonesia to $646 million next financial year.

That cements Indonesia's place as Australia's biggest aid recipient.

According to AusAID the money will be used to improve health and education outcomes, justice and governance.

But, is the money being spent wisely?

America's Obama is not desperate to suck up to Indonesia  but Australia's Abbott is, wonder why?

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 7:25pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 6:24pm: [quote author=Waterloo1 link=1413686266/7#7 date=1413706605]Once on a ship of the Royal Australian Navy, you have reached Australia and are under its protection. Morrison use of Patrol and other Boats for people smuggling into Indonesia shall be answered for! Lick away Tony if you not worn your tongue out on the Chinese! Wrong. Naval vessels are treated differently from Australian soil in that they are considered protected military facilities. You don't have the same rights onboard a RAN vessel like you do if you land on Australian soil.[/quoteBullshit!

I'm not wrong - you can check for yourself.

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 3:53am:

On average abbott has been to Indonesia once every three months, Indonesia has got something abbott not want the Australian people to know about. Tuesday 28 May 2013 6:33PM (ABC: Laban Laisila) In this month's budget, Australia increased its aid budget for Indonesia to $646 million next financial year. That cements Indonesia's place as Australia's biggest aid recipient. According to AusAID the money will be used to improve health and education outcomes, justice and governance. But, is the money being spent wisely?

Why has Dumb Dumb even gone to Indonesia in the first place for Joko’s inauguration? Wouldn't be the Head of State e.g. The Governor-General to be there instead of Head of Government e.g. The Prime Minister.

I am guessing Abbott is sending a message about the importance of the relationship and is going in person to attend court as it were.  Sending a representative might be seen as a snub.

Though I guess in a thread titled Abbott licks jakartas bum there is not much room for rational discussion.  Haters got to hate and when it comes to Abbott the hate morphs into mouth frothing idiocy and irrationality from some of the luvvie clowns. 

In fact the clowns are so demented they would equally going berserk if he didn't go which demonstrates the lack of rationality.

Six times the LNP/Abbott invaded Indonesian waters to  insert insurgents, and now LNP/Abbott has slashed aid funding to Indonesia. Lick away Abbott!

He is only over there because question time is all a bit to hard when you have no answers, or policies apart from Cough cough PPL.

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 3:53am:

On average abbott has been to Indonesia once every three months, Indonesia has got something abbott not want the Australian people to know about. Tuesday 28 May 2013 6:33PM (ABC: Laban Laisila) In this month's budget, Australia increased its aid budget for Indonesia to $646 million next financial year. That cements Indonesia's place as Australia's biggest aid recipient. According to AusAID the money will be used to improve health and education outcomes, justice and governance. But, is the money being spent wisely?

Indeed - which begs the question as to why we are increasing our aid when:

"The largest show of military strength in Indonesia's history is also part of the farewells to president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, whose 10-year term ends on October 20.

The joint celebration is a clear indication of just how significantly Indonesia's military has expanded - a build-up that it is calling a modernisation, rather than an expansion.

As well as building its own navy ships, Indonesia has ordered Leopard tanks from Germany, Sukhoi fighter jets from Russia and Apache helicopters and missiles from the United States.

Indonesia also has a joint venture with South Korea to build submarines there, with plans to transfer the capability so a local industry can open up."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-07/indonesia-puts-on-a-display-of-military-strength/5795446


Our friends from the right went ballistic when Rudd/Gillard gave increased aid to Indonesia.   No outcry seen now?  So we increase our aid, whilst they expand their defence force.

What about all those homeless and pensioners that the Roids were worrying about and saying how they could be fed and housed when Rudd/Gillard were handing out the freebees to the Indons?    Did they suddenly cark and dissapear when Abbott got in?

Vic wrote on Oct 20^th, 2014 at 3:28pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 20th, 2014 at 3:53am: On average abbott has been to Indonesia once every three months, Indonesia has got something abbott not want the Australian people to know about. Tuesday 28 May 2013 6:33PM (ABC: Laban Laisila) In this month's budget, Australia increased its aid budget for Indonesia to $646 million next financial year. That cements Indonesia's place as Australia's biggest aid recipient. According to AusAID the money will be used to improve health and education outcomes, justice and governance. But, is the money being spent wisely? Indeed - which begs the question as to why we are increasing our aid when: "The largest show of military strength in Indonesia's history is also part of the farewells to president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, whose 10-year term ends on October 20. The joint celebration is a clear indication of just how significantly Indonesia's military has expanded - a build-up that it is calling a modernisation, rather than an expansion. As well as building its own navy ships, Indonesia has ordered Leopard tanks from Germany, Sukhoi fighter jets from Russia and Apache helicopters and missiles from the United States. Indonesia also has a joint venture with South Korea to build submarines there, with plans to transfer the capability so a local industry can open up." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-07/indonesia-puts-on-a-display-of-military-strength/5795446 Our friends from the right went ballistic when Rudd/Gillard gave increased aid to Indonesia.   No outcry seen now?  So we increase our aid, whilst they expand their defence force. What about all those homeless and pensioners that the Roids were worrying about and saying how they could be fed and housed when Rudd/Gillard were handing out the freebees to the Indons?    Did they suddenly cark and dissapear when Abbott got in?

It was during Morrison time of ordering the RAN to invade Indonesian waters, that the LNP decided to mark its friendship with Indonesia by taking back $50 Million in aid this year.