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‘He’s an idiot’, says family of the ‘Ginger Jihadist’ as they claim Australian teen who appears in ISIS video has been brainwashed [list bull-blackball]     Sydney teenage Islamic State jihadist, Abdullah Elmir, 17, has been condemned by relatives over a chilling new video     Elmir, who calls himself Abu Khaled from Australia, vows revenge on Tony Abbott and Obama, flanked by other ISIS fighters     Titled 'Message Of The Mujahid 4', the video is full of heavily worded threats and taunts against the US-led coalition combating ISIS     'We will not put down our weapons until we reach your lands,' he says, in a message 'especially' for Australia     Elmir claims ISIS will fly a black flag at Buckingham Palace and the White House in the future     The video was published the day after Australia announced it would put special forces troops on the ground in Iraq By Sarah Dean for Daily Mail Australia and Daniel Piotrowski Ginger-haired Australian jihadist Abdullah Elmir, 17, has been condemned by his relatives over a chilling video in which he declares ISIS will not stop their murderous campaign 'until the black flag is flying high in every single land'. In a propaganda video for the terror group published on YouTube, the young white, Sydney born man calling himself Abu Khaled from Australia is flanked by other ISIS fighters. Elmir reportedly told his mother he was 'going fishing' when he disappeared from his home in Bankstown, west Sydney, in June. Elmir and his friend Feiz are believed to have made their way to Syria and Iraq after crossing the border from Turkey, where they were last known to have contacted family members. They travelled via Perth, with stops in Malaysia and Thailand. 'What a stupid idiot,' an unnamed relative told the Daily Telegraph. 'We never associated with him, that guy was brainwashed, I don't know what these kids get into.' 'They don't know how to fight... they should be getting an education and building this country up.' He begins the video by saying 'this message I deliver to you the people of America, this message I deliver to you the people of Britain and this message I deliver especially to you the people of Australia'. Titled 'Message Of The Mujahid 4', the video which is 1.43 minutes long is full of heavily worded threats and taunts the US-led coalition that recently began air strikes on ISIS targets in Syria and Iraq.

[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2801583/hes-idiot-says-family-ginger-jihadist-claim-australian-teen-appears-isis-video-brainwashed.html#ixzz3GpTuATIk]

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Muslim groups condemn threats made by teen jihadi in Syria MUSLIM community groups have condemned threats made by a teenage jihadist who ran away from his family in Australia to join the Islamic State terror group in Syria. Abdullah Elmir, from Bankstown in western Sydney, appeared in a video on Tuesday alongside IS fighters, threatening Prime Minister Tony Abbott and any nation that stands in the way of IS, also know as ISIL. The Australian National Imams Council (ANIC) has expressed sadness and concern over the video. “We condemn in the strongest possible terms any threat against Australians,” the council said in a statement. A relative of the 17-year-old said the teen had been brainwashed. “What a stupid idiot,” the unnamed relative told The Daily Telegraph. “We never associated with him — that guy was brainwashed. I don’t know what these kids get into. “They don’t know how to fight — they should be getting an education.” Elmir, who told family he was going away on a fishing trip, will not be allowed back into Australia under national security laws. The ANIC said it wanted an inquiry into how the boy was compelled to leave Australia to fight with the violent terror group. “It is utterly deplorable for violent extremists to use Islam as a cover for their crimes and atrocities,” the Grand Mufti of Australia Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammad said. The ANIC has asked the federal government to commit further resources to identify and prevent the root causes of radicalisation of Australians. In the video, Elmir clutched an assault rifle while delivering a 90-second diatribe threatening the West and in particular Australia. “This message, I deliver to you, the people of America,” Elmir, identified as Abu Khalid, says in the video while up to 100 fighters stand around him. “I deliver this message to you, the people of Britain. And I deliver this message to you — especially — the people of Australia. “And I say this about your ­coalition. You threaten us with this coalition of countries. Bring every nation that you wish to us. Bring every nation that you want to come and fight us. It means nothing to us.” He adds that the terror group will eventually take over Australia, the US and Britain. “To the leaders — to (Barack) Obama, to Tony Abbott — I say this: these weapons that we have, these soldiers, we will not stop fighting,” the teenager says. The prime minister said the video highlights the global threat posed by IS. IS is a threat that reaches out to Australia and its allies and partners, a spokesman for Mr Abbott said. “That is why Australia has joined the coalition to disrupt and degrade ISIL in Iraq and is giving our law enforcement and security agencies the powers and resources they need to keep Australia and Australians as safe as possible.” Labor frontbencher Tony Burke questioned how a child raised in Australia could be caught up in the terrorist group’s ideology. “I don’t think anyone I’ve spoken to understands how that transition occurs,” he told reporters in Canberra

[http://m.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/terror/muslim-groups-condemn-threats-made-by-teen-jihadi-in-syria/story-fnpdbcmu-1227098183486]

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms any threat against Australians"

There's a drone somewhere with his name on it. Good.

‘He’s an idiot’

No doubt about that.

He'll probably never see adulthood.

Funny how these videos never target israel who are just up the road.

This issue is going to last for a few generations, unfortunately.

An Illustration - depending on your point of view.

"get an education" someone declared.
It now costs, once it was free.

"Get a job" another declares.

How many 17 years old's cannot find jobs because the factories have closed down and moved off-shore ?

"Get an education, get a job and buy your dream home"

Education is not free, there are no jobs and foreign ownership is outstripping supply causing over pricing of real estate.

So the 17 year old may have thought of all this while fishing, but fishing laws restricted fishing to.

He got pissed off at the system and joined IS instead.
That's probably how he got brainwashed, the recruiters target the faults of our global system and once the mind has turned, only real pain may turn it back.
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Conclusion:

There is no easy quick solution.

Hope he comes to his senses ?, highly unlikely.

We can pray for Divine Intervention to redeem the Human Mind of this kind of error.

wally1 wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 12:02pm:

Funny how these videos never target israel who are just up the road.

ISIS has issued a statement encouraging its followers to slaughter the hypocrites among them before moving onto the Jews. This PR against the west rather than Israel is not surprising - Israel is not actively fighting ISIS. We are.

The kid was one of the 'vast majority of peaceful etc' until he wasn't.

How do you tell the 'vast majority' from the 'tiny minority' before they turn up in Syria surrounded by strikingly ugly f***ers?

Soren wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 1:28pm:

The kid was one of the 'vast majority of peaceful etc' until he wasn't. How do you tell the 'vast majority' from the 'tiny minority' before they turn up in Syria surrounded by strikingly ugly f***ers?

Its a bloody good job its only a tiny minority, how many more would you want.
http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2014/10/18/moment-suicide-bomb-goes-off-in-yemen/


P\S Has anybody proof that it is only a small amount of them.
Reading about how many wants sharia law around the world would put the number at about 4 to 5 hundred million. That's not short change.

Just found this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg

ozzyoi wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 12:10pm:

This issue is going to last for a few generations, unfortunately. An Illustration - depending on your point of view. "get an education" someone declared. It now costs, once it was free. "Get a job" another declares. How many 17 years old's cannot find jobs because the factories have closed down and moved off-shore ? "Get an education, get a job and buy your dream home" Education is not free, there are no jobs and foreign ownership is outstripping supply causing over pricing of real estate. So the 17 year old may have thought of all this while fishing, but fishing laws restricted fishing to. He got pissed off at the system and joined IS instead. That's probably how he got brainwashed, the recruiters target the faults of our global system and once the mind has turned, only real pain may turn it back. ------------------ Conclusion: There is no easy quick solution. Hope he comes to his senses ?, highly unlikely. We can pray for Divine Intervention to redeem the Human Mind of this kind of error.

"The grass isn't always greener."

Our society may be questionable, but I'd prefer it to theirs.

wally1 wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 12:02pm:

Funny how these videos never target israel who are just up the road.

They know thy can f**ck with Westerners' minds but not with the Iraelis'.

Soren wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 1:28pm:

The kid was one of the 'vast majority of peaceful etc' until he wasn't. How do you tell the 'vast majority' from the 'tiny minority' before they turn up in Syria surrounded by strikingly ugly f***ers?

They weren't the finest specimens of manhood were they. I predict a dramatic decline in female Muslim radicals running off to sign up.

quote]‘He’s an idiot’, says family of the ‘Ginger Jihadist’ as they claim Australian teen who appears in ISIS video has been brainwashed[/quote]

I agree he's been brainwashed by the islamic faith, he's firmly convinced by the teachings of peace and love that he's directly in line to get a room full of big breasted houri's.

Hijrah or emigrating to fight in the cause of allah



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qur'an 2.218: Indeed, those who have believed and those who have emigrated and fought in the cause of Allah - those expect the mercy of Allah . And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. qur'an 3.195: And their Lord responded to them, "Never will I allow to be lost the work of [any] worker among you, whether male or female; you are of one another. So those who emigrated or were evicted from their homes or were harmed in My cause or fought or were killed - I will surely remove from them their misdeeds, and I will surely admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow as reward from Allah , and Allah has with Him the best reward." qur'an 4.100: And whoever emigrates for the cause of Allah will find on the earth many [alternative] locations and abundance. And whoever leaves his home as an emigrant to Allah and His Messenger and then death overtakes him - his reward has already become incumbent upon Allah . And Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful. qur'an 8.72: Indeed, those who have believed and emigrated and fought with their wealth and lives in the cause of Allah and those who gave shelter and aided - they are allies of one another. But those who believed and did not emigrate - for you there is no guardianship of them until they emigrate. And if they seek help of you for the religion, then you must help, except against a people between yourselves and whom is a treaty. And Allah is Seeing of what you do. qur'an 8.74: But those who have believed and emigrated and fought in the cause of Allah and those who gave shelter and aided - it is they who are the believers, truly. For them is forgiveness and noble provision. qur'an 8.75: And those who believed after [the initial emigration] and emigrated and fought with you - they are of you. But those of [blood] relationship are more entitled [to inheritance] in the decree of Allah . Indeed, Allah is Knowing of all things. qur'an 9.20:The ones who have believed, emigrated and striven in the cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives are greater in rank in the sight of Allah . And it is those who are the attainers [of success]. qur'an 22.58: And those who emigrated for the cause of Allah and then were killed or died - Allah will surely provide for them a good provision. And indeed, it is Allah who is the best of providers.

Every verse tells us muslims who emigrate to strive in the cause of allah (slay and are slain), are the true believers, worthy of allah's reward.

So the kid's a top shelf muslim according to islamic faith


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Muslim groups condemn threats made by teen jihadi in Syria

Yeah, yeah sure, then again for the true muslims we have:

taqiyya and kitman: gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them with deception, concealing and disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies..

lying is ordained for muslims, to conceal their true cause.


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qur'an 3.28: Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying. qur'an 16.106: Whoso disbelieveth in Allah after his belief - save him who is forced thereto and whose heart is still content with the Faith - but whoso findeth ease in disbelief: On them is wrath from Allah. Theirs will be an awful doom. qur'an 9.3: And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith. qur'an 66.2: Allah has already ordained for you [Muslims] the dissolution of your oaths. And Allah is your protector, and He is the Knowing, the Wise. qur'an 2. 225: Allah does not impose blame upon you for what is unintentional in your oaths, but He imposes blame upon you for what your hearts have earned. And Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing.

muslims are encouraged to make false oaths, break their oaths and treaties, to lie and deceive non muslims.

Usual crowd, usual bigotry.  Nothing particularly enlightening to see here from the crowd of Islamophobes.

Life is infinitely more complicated than they will ever admit.   For them, there is only one factor that influence these kids.   In reality, it is always a lot more.   ::)   

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 6:03pm:

In reality, it is always a lot more.

Prove it.

Adamant wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 6:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 6:03pm: In reality, it is always a lot more. Prove it.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128184/2460157-yawn_20smiley.jpg

I don't have to prove anything, Adamant.  It's up to you to disprove my statement.

Off you go.   ::)

wally1 wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 12:02pm:

Funny how these videos never target israel who are just up the road.

Jihadists are determined to kill all moslem apostates, first.

And rightly so!           :)

Those dirty rotten traitors !!!!!           :P




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New Islamic Caliphate Declares Jihad on … Muslims by Raymond Ibrahim July 18, 2014 The new "caliphate" of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi—the Islamic State, formerly "ISIS"—recently made clear that it means to follow in the footsteps of the original caliphate of Abu Bakr al-Sadiq (632-634), specifically by directing its jihad against fellow Muslims, in Islamic parlance, the "hypocrites" and "apostates," or in Western terminology, "moderates." This came out in the context of the current conflict between Israel and Hamas, with some Muslims asking the newly formed "caliphate" when it would launch a jihad on the Jewish state. The Islamic State's response? "Allah in the noble Koran does not command us to fight Israel or the Jews until we fight the apostates and hypocrites." On one of the Islamic State's question-and-answer websites, some asked why it was "not fighting Israel but instead shedding the blood of the sons of Iraq and Syria." The new caliphate responded:     The greater answer is in the noble Koran, when Allah Almighty speaks about the near enemy. In the majority of verses in the noble Koran, these are the hypocrites, for they pose a greater danger than the original infidels [born non-Muslims, e.g., Jews and Christians]. And the answer is found in Abu Bakr al-Sadiq, when he preferred fighting apostates over the conquest of Jerusalem [fath al-Quds], which was conquered by his successor, Omar al-Khattab. .....After the prophet of Islam died, a great number of Arabian tribes that had submitted to his rule by becoming Muslims—the word muslim simply means "one who submits"—thought they could now renege, and so they apostatized in droves. This sparked the first Ridda, or "apostasy wars," waged by Abu Bakr al-Sadiq, who became the first caliph on Muhammad's death in 632. For nearly two years, till his own death in 634, his caliphate's entire energy was focused on waging jihad on all the recalcitrant Arab tribes, forcing them by the edge of the sword to return to the fold of Islam. ....Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, one of the most influential Islamic clerics today, while once discussing the importance of killing any Muslim who apostatizes from Islam on Al Jazeera, correctly stated that "If the [death] penalty for apostasy was ignored, there would not be an Islam today; Islam would have ended on the death of the prophet." In short, and as the Islamic State is now arguing, the first and greatest enemy of Islam—the "nearest" enemy—is the "apostate" and "hypocrite," for they are the most capable of subverting Islam from within.

http://www.meforum.org/4754/new-islamic-caliphate-declares-jihad-on-muslims




He's talking about YOU wally!!!!!      ;)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 6:27pm:

Adamant wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 6:22pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 6:03pm: In reality, it is always a lot more. Prove it. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128184/2460157-yawn_20smiley.jpg I don't have to prove anything, Adamant.  It's up to you to disprove my statement. Off you go.   ::)

I don't have to prove anything that you claim. You claim you are, are not are, am not never claimed that you were an academic! You ARE a fvucking liar. Fact!

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 4:42pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 1:28pm: The kid was one of the 'vast majority of peaceful etc' until he wasn't. How do you tell the 'vast majority' from the 'tiny minority' before they turn up in Syria surrounded by strikingly ugly f***ers? They weren't the finest specimens of manhood were they.

I am surprised Annie.

I thought for sure, that after you saw that video, you would be rushing to 'sign up', to be an ISIS ice-maiden ISIS hand-maiden.








Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 4:42pm:

I predict         a dramatic decline in female Muslim radicals running off to sign up.

The prophetess of Paramatta, are you ????



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Three Muslim teen girls from Colorado arrested trying to join Islamic State Oct 21, 2014

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Adamant wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 6:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 6:27pm: Adamant wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 6:22pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 6:03pm: In reality, it is always a lot more. Prove it. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128184/2460157-yawn_20smiley.jpg I don't have to prove anything, Adamant.  It's up to you to disprove my statement. Off you go.   ::) I don't have to prove anything that you claim. You claim you are, are not are, am not never claimed that you were an academic! You ARE a fvucking liar. Fact!

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128184/2460157-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Actually, I didn't ask you to prove anything, Adaman.  Appears you have a reading comprehension problem.  Perhaps you should go back to primary school with the other kiddies?   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 7:13pm:

Adamant wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 6:36pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 6:27pm: Adamant wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 6:22pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 6:03pm: In reality, it is always a lot more. Prove it. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128184/2460157-yawn_20smiley.jpg I don't have to prove anything, Adamant.  It's up to you to disprove my statement. Off you go.   ::) I don't have to prove anything that you claim. You claim you are, are not are, am not never claimed that you were an academic! You ARE a fvucking liar. Fact! http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128184/2460157-yawn_20smiley.jpg Actually, I didn't ask you to prove anything, Adaman.  Appears you have a reading comprehension problem.  Perhaps you should go back to primary school with the other kiddies?   ::)

You really are a kiddie aren't you, the word obfuscation springs to mind.

dis•prove  (dɪsˈpruv) 

v.t.  -proved, -prov•ing.
to prove to be false or wrong; refute; invalidate.

Wvanker now is the correct term for you along with proven liar.

P/S Hows the good work you don't do on Saterdays going?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128184/2460157-yawn_20smiley.jpg

You really are a tiresome little oink, Adamant.   ::)


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"We need to understand the issues of radicalisation and exactly what attracts those people, especially young men, to these organisations." A community worker, who does not want to be identified, has run his own de-radicalisation workshops and said young Muslims are often motivated by social isolation. "Some of the things that have come up, to be really honest with you, is a deep sense of concern about the injustices that are happening overseas and this need, or a perceived need, to want to do something about it," he said. "And these overseas groups are an avenue to express that need in a very tangible way, albeit obviously wrong."

[url=http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-22/abdullah-elmir-friends-defend-sydney-teens-decision-to-join-is/5834172]Source[/url]

All this koran stuff, nothing that sticks, yet fools fall for the con.

The Bible is written where the word of God speaks with Eternal Timeless Divine Authority that one "feels" when you don't try to intellectualize it.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 11:32pm:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128184/2460157-yawn_20smiley.jpg You really are a tiresome little oink, Adamant.   ::) Quote: "We need to understand the issues of radicalisation and exactly what attracts those people, especially young men, to these organisations." A community worker, who does not want to be identified, has run his own de-radicalisation workshops and said young Muslims are often motivated by social isolation. "Some of the things that have come up, to be really honest with you, is a deep sense of concern about the injustices that are happening overseas and this need, or a perceived need, to want to do something about it," he said. "And these overseas groups are an avenue to express that need in a very tangible way, albeit obviously wrong." [url=http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-22/abdullah-elmir-friends-defend-sydney-teens-decision-to-join-is/5834172]Source[/url]

isnt that the truth..we never see life from the other persons point of view...mind you I dont put all the blame on Australians..lets face it.. the muslim community does isolate its own..at least I havent seen a lot of blending in..I do not know if any of my grandkids go to school with Muslims..do they play footy or tennis or golf.. I dont know..what do their kids do for fun?

Agree how many are members of Lions, Rotary, Toastmasters or other local community clubs.

Never see any in clubs just for a meal. One doesnt have to drink alcohol or gamble in the club

Nah Weird Beastards in my opinion

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 6:27pm:

Adamant wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 6:22pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 6:03pm: In reality, it is always a lot more. Prove it. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128184/2460157-yawn_20smiley.jpg I don't have to prove anything, Adamant.  It's up to you to disprove my statement. Off you go.   ::)

That's a novel form of debate.  I am sure if I could be bothered looking you normally demand that onus is on the initiater to prove thier statement.  So a rare rolling eyes dedicated to your duplicity,  enjoy.   ::) ::)

wally1 wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 12:02pm:

Funny how these videos never target israel who are just up the road.

The International society of Islamic scumbags (ISIS) cannot beat the Kurds in Kobane,what makes you think they have any chance against Israel?

cods wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 8:58am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 11:32pm: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128184/2460157-yawn_20smiley.jpg You really are a tiresome little oink, Adamant.   ::) Quote: "We need to understand the issues of radicalisation and exactly what attracts those people, especially young men, to these organisations." A community worker, who does not want to be identified, has run his own de-radicalisation workshops and said young Muslims are often motivated by social isolation. "Some of the things that have come up, to be really honest with you, is a deep sense of concern about the injustices that are happening overseas and this need, or a perceived need, to want to do something about it," he said. "And these overseas groups are an avenue to express that need in a very tangible way, albeit obviously wrong." [url=http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-22/abdullah-elmir-friends-defend-sydney-teens-decision-to-join-is/5834172]Source[/url] isnt that the truth..we never see life from the other persons point of view...mind you I dont put all the blame on Australians..lets face it.. the muslim community does isolate its own..at least I havent seen a lot of blending in..I do not know if any of my grandkids go to school with Muslims..do they play footy or tennis or golf.. I dont know..what do their kids do for fun?

The same things all kids do?  This little nutter apparently was very into acting, according to his mates and what he posted on Facepalm.   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 9:12am:

Agree how many are members of Lions, Rotary, Toastmasters or other local community clubs. Never see any in clubs just for a meal. One doesnt have to drink alcohol or gamble in the club Nah Weird Beastards in my opinion

How many fundamentalist Christians do you see "in the club"?

Very New South Wales thing, "clubs".  Perhaps you need to get out and go to their coffee shops?

The muslim kid read the qur'an he believed it, he became a terrorist.

moses wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 4:35pm:

The muslim kid read the qur'an he believed it, he became a terrorist.

Just like Joseph Kony, hey?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 5:49pm:

moses wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 4:35pm: The muslim kid read the qur'an he believed it, he became a terrorist. Just like Joseph Kony, hey?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Joseph Kony versus 1.6 billion Muslims.

Dishonbesty has no limit, does it, Bozo?

Who the hell is Kony? WHo is supporting him? You numplties find some peripheral aberration and think that it counters all the Shia on sunni and vica versa murdering on an industrial scale JUST to excuse the ideology that is the basis for terrorism across the world.
You would die rather than be intellectually honest. 

Nobody is making Muslims murder each other.  They do it simply and solely out of Islamic conviction.

They are responsible for their sectarian violence. Not me, not you, not the Jews, Americans, Canadians, Abbott, Bush - Muslims. 
We are not making them murder each other in the name of Islam.i

Soren wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 6:44pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 5:49pm: moses wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 4:35pm: The muslim kid read the qur'an he believed it, he became a terrorist. Just like Joseph Kony, hey?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D Joseph Kony versus 1.6 billion Muslims.

So, 1.6 billion Muslims have, "read the qur'an believed it, became terrorists?"  Really Soren?  All 1.6 billion?

So, with Joseph Kony as the example, its obvious that 2.2 billion Christians have "read the Bible, believed it and became terrorists," if we use the same logic you're using?

Afterall Joseph Kony became a Terrorist after reading the Bible in it seems the same way that Abdullah Elmir read the Koran, didn't he?  We know the Bible is full of instructions on killing, raping and pillaging, as the Koran is apparently.  So, if these holy books are so effective at brainwashing their readers, why shouldn't we apply the same logic Soren? 


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Dishonbesty has no limit, does it, Bozo?

Where have I been dishonest?  Simply because you don't agree with me doesn't mean I'm being dishonest when I come to a different conclusion to you.   ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D


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Who the hell is Kony?

He appears to be someone who gets under your skin Soren.  You don't like the fact he exists and proves the invalidity of your logic.  He is a Christian Terrorist.   You seem unwilling to face that fact.  I wonder why?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


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They are responsible for their sectarian violence. Not me, not you, not the Jews, Americans, Canadians, Abbott, Bush - Muslims.

I've never claimed otherwise Soren.  Why are you railing against me about it?  Have you completely lost all reason?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

So who is making Kony kill his fellow Christians Soren?  God?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Oct 24^th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 6:44pm: Who the hell is Kony? He appears to be someone who gets under your skin Soren.  You don't like the fact he exists and proves the invalidity of your logic.  He is a Christian Terrorist.   You seem unwilling to face that fact.  I wonder why?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Who the hell is Kony? Who is supporting him?
You numplties find some peripheral aberration and think that it counters all the Shia on sunni and vica versa murdering on an industrial scale JUST to excuse the ideology that is the basis for terrorism across the world, not just in some obscure,  godforsaken corner of darkest Africa.

Soren wrote on Oct 24^th, 2014 at 1:35pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 24th, 2014 at 1:04pm: Soren wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 6:44pm: Who the hell is Kony? He appears to be someone who gets under your skin Soren.  You don't like the fact he exists and proves the invalidity of your logic.  He is a Christian Terrorist.   You seem unwilling to face that fact.  I wonder why?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Who the hell is Kony?

Already answered!   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

|dev|null wrote on Oct 24^th, 2014 at 1:49pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 24th, 2014 at 1:35pm: |dev|null wrote on Oct 24th, 2014 at 1:04pm: Soren wrote on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 6:44pm: Who the hell is Kony? He appears to be someone who gets under your skin Soren.  You don't like the fact he exists and proves the invalidity of your logic.  He is a Christian Terrorist.   You seem unwilling to face that fact.  I wonder why?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Who the hell is Kony? Already answered!   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Who is supporting him?
You numplties find some peripheral aberration and think that it counters all the Shia on sunni and vica versa murdering on an industrial scale JUST to excuse the ideology that is the basis for terrorism across the world, not just in some obscure,  godforsaken corner of darkest Africa.

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Joseph Kony considers himself quite a good Christian, and he wants Uganda to be a Christian nation. So in 1987 he formed a resistance group called the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), and the LRA has been at civil war against the Ugandan government ever since. If the LRA wins, Kony has promised that Uganda will become a theocracy, with laws based on the Biblical Ten Commandments.

[url=http://www.nndb.com/people/398/000022332/]Source[/url]


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In its early years the LRA enjoyed support in northern Uganda, but as its resources diminished, the militia began to plunder the local population. The movement gained considerable strength in 1994 when it received the backing of the government of Sudan, which sought to retaliate against Kampala for its support of Sudanese rebels.

[url=http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1017670/Joseph-Kony]Source[/url]


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The LRA had the support of the people and continued to fight against corruption and intimidation by poorly paid and trained rural Ugandan government forces. In the mid 90’s a series of negotiations began but Kony chose to accept funding from the Islamic country of Sudan and fought against the Southern-based Sudanese local rebels groups who wanted to create what is now the country of South Sudan. [...] Since 2011 Joseph Kony and a small band of men have been moving along remote waterways and in Garamba National Park. His rag tag rebel group have been poaching, looting and robbing locals to survive.

[url=http://expeditionkony.com/who/]Source[/url]

Looks like he was initially at least supported by the locals in Northern Ugunda who are mainly animist and Christian, Soren.  Then he received support from Muslims(!) in Sudan.  Finally because of how savage he is, he lost all that.

You could have looked yourself, Soren...   ::)