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Title: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Nov 5th, 2014 at 8:19pm
With all the charisma of a house brick and zero policy ambition does anyone think the dimwit will go full term, as much as I dislike him keeping him onboard guarantees a landslide defeat. But getting rid of him displays the same traits that got Labor voted out, it's simply beautiful watching this unfold . It will take nothing short of a miracle for LNP to go another term.
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Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by John Smith on Nov 5th, 2014 at 9:36pm
no
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Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Team Knight Errant Grappler on Nov 5th, 2014 at 11:09pm
He will survive because that lot have not one person of quality to put up - neither, BTW does the opposition.
All have serious feet of clay and need to really resolve the issues that are binding them to the mud so that they are incapable of rising above the gutters.... Labor needs to divest itself of the absurdity of 'feminism' with all its bullshit, and Liberals needs to get back on track to reality and not keep on selling off the country to the lowest kind of bidder.... the kind of person you might buy a package of white powder from in some dark alley.... Hardly the kind of person we should be doing business with. Which one would YOU vote for as our President with plenipotentiary powers? Not One! |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by St George of the Puissant HLT on Nov 5th, 2014 at 11:21pm
I am sure some counting is going on. But—who to replace Tone with? They are all so incompetent.
Then they don’t want to do what Labor did so policy paralysis will creep in. I guess Howard really is too old—but I bet that option has been considered by one or two hardheads. I think they might do a panicky change mid 2016. Won’t help—unless that person can bring new policies but he won’t have time to implement or spruik them. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Datalife on Nov 5th, 2014 at 11:26pm
Is this opinion from the same set of opinions that the mad monk was unelectable? Trouble is, there are more factors than Abbott that need to be calculated. For instance if Shorten continues to make noises about reopening operation open borders that will be a significant detriment to labor.
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Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by St George of the Puissant HLT on Nov 5th, 2014 at 11:28pm
Yeah, Shorten’s tactic should be to bring up all the attacks, rapes, suicides/selfharm etc etc. People not so gung ho about OSB if they know in detail what it involves in gruesome detail.
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Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Datalife on Nov 5th, 2014 at 11:34pm St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 5th, 2014 at 11:28pm:
Bit hard, all of the legislation smacking over country shoppers is owned by labor. And the other consideration is that that those who actually give a poo about country shoppers are a minority. Prepared to be corrected on that. Rudd belatedly realised it when he enacted the let them rot in PNG legislation. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Ahovking on Nov 6th, 2014 at 5:01am
Ofcause he will.
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Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Dame Pansi on Nov 6th, 2014 at 5:54am I hope he stays because it will be bliss to watch him get wiped out on election day. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Greens_Win on Nov 6th, 2014 at 6:02am
The abbott mob is driving up the cost of living pressures via their list of mounting election lies.
Cost of living pressures drives votes more than the extreme costs to taxpayers of running foreign concentration camps so to persecute people fleeing persecution. And now abbott wants people to lose some of their wages because of his economic illiteracy. Lets hope abbott doesn't chicken out and resign before angry people get to boot him out harder than they did to Howard. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 6th, 2014 at 6:11am ____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 6:02am:
The carbon tax wasn't a cost of living pressure? ;) |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Greens_Win on Nov 6th, 2014 at 6:19am Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 6:11am:
Abbott's Petrol Tax, Abbott's Doctor Tax, Abbott's War Tax, Abbott's Direct Action Tax, Abbott Education Tax ... etc etc ... not cost of living pressures? Abbott wanting all wages and salaries, except his own and his mates, to fall below inflation rate hikes so increasing costs of living pressures to households while the abbott mob drive down the dollar making imported items like petrol and food even more expensive to household budgets. Why would voters vote for less money in their household budget by voting for the abbott mob. Not even the hard right media will be able to stem the anger building in areas like Western Sydney against the economic illiterate abbott mob. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by imcrookonit on Nov 6th, 2014 at 6:22am
Still waiting for the $550 a year better off. :(
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Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Greens_Win on Nov 6th, 2014 at 6:29am
And who are dumb enough to fall for abbott's election lies this time around and vote lib and his dumbarse dags, the gnats?
Please do not dump abbott until the voters punish him for taking every Australian for fools via all his past, present, and future lies. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:01am ____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 6:19am:
You DO realise the increase in the fuel excise (which equates to about $10 a year for the average motorist) isn't a new tax, right? |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:03am wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 6:22am:
Still waiting for a Labor surplus... |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Dame Pansi on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:06am Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:01am:
You are so naïve. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Greens_Win on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:15am Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:01am:
A new tax of $10 for regional and rural driver ... where do you think they drive to ... their front gate and then catch a bus? And this new tax is a forever rising new tax. This new forever rising tax will make everything that is transported more expensive. Higher prices for food, products and services. Add to the falling of the dollar because the world realises the abbott mob are economic incompetent and a sovereign risk. Driving petrol prices to new record highes. Add to this new forever rising tax, new toll charges everywhere financed from all this money stolen by the lying abbott mob. So who is happy to finance toll road profits twice. The New Abbott Petrol Tax and The New Abbott Toll Road Charges. The bigger question and worthy of a thread of it's own ... what lies will abbott make at the next election http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN-hbWVXsyE |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Ahovking on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:20am Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:03am:
Pretty sure, when Labor was looking up big words in "My first word" dictionary, they saw the word Surplus and somehow miss understood the definition, its so hard ready english poor things. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Ahovking on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:24am ____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:15am:
Labor did its own share of harm with taxes and etc, i live in Tasmania and i cant tell you how many Tasmanian farmers were pushed to the brick of bankruptcy because if the carbon tax. The last 6 years was hell for business and Tasmania is prove how 16 years of labor and greens can destroy a once wealthy state, ranking as one of the most well off state in Australia to a state in worst shape than greece. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:27am Pantheon wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:20am:
I love the irony of this post. The signature line underneath makes it even funnier. "Some people have way to much time on their hands." |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Andrei.Hicks on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:45am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:06am:
Though he is absolutely correct in his point. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Greens_Win on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:46am Pantheon wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:24am:
The carbon levy served a purpose ... transforming the economy and so making the carbon cost obsolete down the track. How will Tasmanian farmer cope with forever rising petrol prices and all the inbuilt costs from this forever rising tax? How about locked in higher and uncompetitive electricity prices abbott wants for Australia just because he wants to keep his coal party donations. Higher doctor costs for farmers. Higher medication costs because Abbott is selling out Australia via the Trans Pacific Partnership Treaty, being done in secret. Do you think this TPP Treaty will sell out Tasmanian Farmers? Fracking and destruction of ground water. Hows that going to help Tasmanian Farmers. Shifting Weather Patterns due to AGW. AGW that Abbott denies yet wants tax payers to fund direct action pork barrelling via financing Fracking. I suggest you wake up. Conservative Politics hate Farmers. Including Farmers in Tasmania. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Greens_Win on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:50am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:45am:
No he isn't. It's political spin so to try and sell an abbott election lie. Did that figure of $10 include the GST charged on the new tax? The GST Tax on the New Abbott Excise Tax. The GST Tax Abbott is starving State and Territory Govts of funds so to pressure a massive rise and a wider tax grab on (Fresh Food Etc)? Abbott new tax means less people driving around Australia on holiday breaks. Less revenue for regional and country areas because Australians are being crushed under the massive cost of living pressures being dumped on them by abbott ... only because abbott is an economic illiterate. And Hockey is in the same class. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Dnarever on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:12am
Abbott has got one term as PM more than any reasonable person would believe was possible - God help us if he gets 2 terms.
I don't see how the Liberals can let him go in front of another election debate when it is clearly demonstrable that everything he said last time was a lie. How could anyone believe anything he has to say. He stood in front of a camera looked us all straight in the eye and lied through his arse. How can he run an effective election campaign when the community know that what he is saying is meaningless and less than worthless. How can he stand before our community and make promises when everyone knows to not believe him. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by John Smith on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:12am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:45am:
semantics .. whats the difference, you pay an extra $10 for a new tax, or $10 extra on an existing tax? In the end you end up paying $10 that you weren't previously paying. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Dnarever on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:15am Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:01am:
You recall that Abbott promised no tax increases, right ? It is just a different promise he has broken. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by imcrookonit on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:22am
Now every time we fill our car up, Mr Abbott will be there. Making sure we all pay more for our petrol. :(
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Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Dnarever on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:26am wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:22am:
If you want to put a price on carbon why not a tax at the bowser? |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by imcrookonit on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:33am
So are we all better off $550 a year, for getting rid of the carbon tax?. I cant see it yet. :(
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Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Greens_Win on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:34am Dnarever wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:26am:
Perfect place to apply abbott's carbon tax if the money raised went to shifting the economy away from pollution. Abbott's new carbon tax just goes to creating more pollution. Such a dumbarse he is. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Doctor Jolly on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:57am Dnarever wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:26am:
Applying a carbon tax is only effective if there is a low-carbon alternative to encourage people to move to it. Transport fuel has no alternative, which is why the carbon tax excempted it. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Doctor Jolly on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:58am
Abbott is basically a puppet to murdoch, propped up by murdoch media. If Murdoch tires of him, he wont last long.
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Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by St George of the Puissant HLT on Nov 6th, 2014 at 9:19am
The buildup of JBitchop continues:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/confidential/he-gets-our-vote-foreign-minister-julie-bishop-goes-public-with-man-shes-been-dating-for-six-months/story-fnilxh2p-1227112990553 (WARNING—strong stomach needed!) The photo of JB with her new man shows how badly made the green top she is wearing there is. No class to JB. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Nov 6th, 2014 at 9:19am greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:27am:
I remember seeing a conservative coming to an "R" party dressed as a wrestler . Another dyslexic conservative came to a toga party dressed as a goat. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Greens_Win on Nov 6th, 2014 at 9:28am Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:57am:
The money raised could be invested into helping people to upgrade to more fuel efficient models, so helping the the local car manufactures with sales. Oh hang on ... Abbott crushed the auto industry in Australia. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by King FriYAY II on Nov 6th, 2014 at 9:42am ____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 9:28am:
This is the main problem with Australia - dumb voters. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Nov 6th, 2014 at 9:45am King FriYAY II wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 9:42am:
Yep, look what we ended up with, a rabble of a government . |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Greens_Win on Nov 6th, 2014 at 9:56am King FriYAY II wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 9:42am:
The voters didn't expect the lies from abbott to be so thick and across the board. If they make the same mistake twice, then they can be called dumb. Fool me once, shame on you Fool me twice, shame on me. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by King FriYAY II on Nov 6th, 2014 at 10:25am ____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 9:56am:
Case in point. The obvious "dumb" thing was your comment - we are in trouble. ::) |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Greens_Win on Nov 6th, 2014 at 10:33am King FriYAY II wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 10:25am:
Not the multiple lies by the abbott mob after spending the last term in opposition banging on 24/7 about lies. Abbott has backed himself into a corner. Properly like the way he backed in to corners in that homosexual hotbed he frequented for three years. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Dnarever on Nov 6th, 2014 at 10:44am wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:33am:
You never will it is the same as all of Tony's other commitments - meaningless. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Dnarever on Nov 6th, 2014 at 10:48am Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:57am:
The fixed carbon price was about incentive to produce power etc with a lower carbon impact. This was saying to business that it will cost you less to do this more efficiently. So your conclusion is incorrect to a degree. The carbon price was incentive for polluters to stop being lazy and to take up available low emission options and to be involved in the development of others. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 6th, 2014 at 10:49am Its time wrote on Nov 5th, 2014 at 8:19pm:
keep him on. The massive implosion of the libbos will makeup for the temporary hardship that we will have to put up with ;) |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 6th, 2014 at 10:51am King FriYAY II wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 9:42am:
yep all the dumb ones voted abort in :( |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Dnarever on Nov 6th, 2014 at 10:52am Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 8:57am:
which is why the carbon tax excempted it. Tony's carbon tax has not exempted it? |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Sprintcyclist on Nov 6th, 2014 at 11:26am I see 3 terms for Tony |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by St George of the Puissant HLT on Nov 6th, 2014 at 11:27am
Sprint with the morning comedy.
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Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by DaS Energy on Nov 6th, 2014 at 12:41pm
Coalition mission is to reduce Carbon emissions without reducing the Coal burn.
This of course can be done on paper with the right people in charge. However the 103 Greg Hunt had picked out for this got snookered by Palmer. Palmer having lots of Carbon and little Nickel would well profit with an efficiency upgrade. No Palmer happy no Hunt Direct Action, its LNP at its best! |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Bam on Nov 6th, 2014 at 12:41pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 11:26am:
Yes - three prison terms for corruption. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Team Froggie on Nov 6th, 2014 at 1:18pm wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 6:22am:
ME 2 :) |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Team Froggie on Nov 6th, 2014 at 1:27pm St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 9:19am:
Bet she remains 'deliberately barren' though. :D |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by DaS Energy on Nov 6th, 2014 at 1:41pm Lobo wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 1:27pm:
For Bishop to get the girls vote she has to be getting a dick in, and know all those things girls put up with men! |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Lord Sir BigVic VSD and Bar on Nov 6th, 2014 at 1:45pm
I heard she got put down along with the other 2 horses.
Good to see she's getter a bit of donk now though. Chucking a sausage down a hallway anyone? ![]() |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Team Froggie on Nov 6th, 2014 at 1:54pm
I would have had to be really, really p!ssed the night before, to wake up in the same bed as her.....
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Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by The Outrage Bus on Nov 6th, 2014 at 1:55pm Lobo wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 1:54pm:
Really, we're going down that path. The left decried the right doing it to Julia, lets not get sucked into it. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Team Froggie on Nov 6th, 2014 at 2:14pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 1:55pm:
Apologies.... :-[ |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by DaS Energy on Nov 6th, 2014 at 2:15pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 1:55pm:
Who's the we, and what be their relationship with you? |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by Team Froggie on Nov 6th, 2014 at 2:22pm
Meanwhile...Back at Tony lasting the distance....
I want him just where he is. As I see it, Tony is worth 3% to 5% to Labor's favour. The LNP can't just dump him as that would be too hypocritical after all they heaped on Labor about leader changes. I'm still not ruling out major illness, or accident, forcing his retirement. |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by King FriYAY II on Nov 6th, 2014 at 2:25pm ____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 10:33am:
LOL Now instead of just a dumb comment, you sound dumb as well. Kudos. ::) |
Title: Re: Does anyone think Tony will last. Post by DaS Energy on Nov 6th, 2014 at 2:36pm Lobo wrote on Nov 6th, 2014 at 2:22pm:
[smiley=laugh.gif] When Tony Abbott stands between a Politician and a lifetime of cash, hypocrite not come into it! |
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