Victorian State Election: Greens would only support a Labor government

Date
    November 15, 2014


Battle lines have been drawn: Greens candidate for Melbourne Ellen Sandell says the Greens are ruling out supporting the Liberals.      :)

EXCLUSIVE

The Greens would seek an agreement with Labor to help form government in the event of a hung parliament, the party's Melbourne candidate has declared.    

In a bid to clearly state the Greens' intentions before people begin voting on Monday at early voting centres, Greens candidate for Melbourne Ellen Sandell told The Age the party would either enter into a coalition government or a Adam Bandt-style agreement to offer the government support, with the latter more likely, in the event the Greens secured the balance of power.

Ms Sandell said it would be up to Labor about the type of agreement but wanted to make it clear that the Greens were "ruling out supporting the Liberals."    

"We want to be clear that a vote for the Greens will not help re-elect the Napthine government."      :)

"We will seek an agreement with Labor for an effective, stable and progressive government that takes strong action on the big issues like public transport, climate change and education. It is what would be best for the future of Victoria," she said.

"We want a government that can stand up to Tony Abbott and his cruel cuts to hospitals and schools."      ;)

Last week Labor leader Daniel Andrews instructed the party to reject a preference deal request from the Greens that would have seen the Greens preference Labor second in all lower house seats, with a few exceptions, in exchange for preference flows in the upper house.

"No deal will be offered and no deal will be done because the last thing I am ever going to sign up to is an unstable, minority government," Mr Andrews recently said.

The news is likely to be seized on the by the Napthine Liberals who have tried to paint the Greens and Labor as being in an alliance.

On Thursday Premier Denis Napthine said that the Liberals would put the Greens last on how to vote cards and in preference deals, even behind the anti-Islam anti-multiculturalism party Rise Up Australia.

Dr Napthine called on the ALP to follow their lead and also place the Greens last.

On 3AW radio on Friday senior Labor frontbencher Martin Pakula echoed his leader's comments.

"We have made it absolutely clear that we will be doing no deals post-election with them, there will be no talk of coalitions," Mr Pakula said.

But Ms Sandell questioned whether Labor would actually let government slip from their grasp.

"Daniel Andrews will have a clear choice to either choose to work with the Greens for a stable progressive government or he can try and form government with the Liberals and the Nationals, it will be up to him."

The Greens hold their formal campaign launch in the city on Saturday morning.    

This week's Fairfax Ipsos poll found the Greens primary vote across the state was 16 per cent, down one point on the previous poll. A Greens-commissioned poll last week also showed the party leading the incumbent Labor MPs in Melbourne and Richmond.

While Labor admit the inner-city seat will be tight, they are also upbeat about their chances.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victoria-state-election-2014/victorian-state-election-greens-would-only-support-a-labor-government-20141114-11mpqf.html#ixzz3J4n7UDba

Why would the Greens support a bunch of environmental vandals and denialists?

The Libs are toast   ;D

The probability of the Greens having the balance of power are very small.

A bridge to cross if and when.

Not supporting the Liberals only proves that they are not reptilian.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 6:40am:

The probability of the Greens having the balance of power are very small. A bridge to cross if and when. Not supporting the Liberals only proves that they are not reptilian.

Labor will win in a landslide in Victoria

Labor would be STUPID to rely on the Greens. They have proven they are not a party of government.

The greens are the alternative to labor Tweedledee.  And also liberal Tweedledum.      :)   

Greens are Libs in progressive dress.

Look to the results of their actions not their words.

adelcrow wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 6:52am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 6:40am: The probability of the Greens having the balance of power are very small. A bridge to cross if and when. Not supporting the Liberals only proves that they are not reptilian. Labor will win in a landslide in Victoria

I'm not sure of what your definition of a landslide is, but I'm expecting Labor to win between 50 and 55 seats. Even if the Greens end up taking three seats off Labor - they are a chance in Melbourne, Richmond and Brunswick - Labor will still probably win enough seats to form a majority government in their own right.

Where it gets more interesting is the upper house. Labor are unlikely to secure a majority in the Legislative Council, and I expect the Greens to hold the balance of power there. Labor will gain up to three LC seats from the Liberals (the fifth seat in Northern Metropolitan, Southern Metropolitan and Western Metropolitan are up for grabs). This would be enough to deny the Coalition a majority but not enough for Labor to gain it instead. About three Greens will hold the balance of power.

talk about the obvious....  greens wont support the Libs????

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:00am:

talk about the obvious....  greens wont support the Libs????

Well they did with Rudds ETS so who knows whats next ;)

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:04am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:00am: talk about the obvious....  greens wont support the Libs???? Well they did with Rudds ETS so who knows whats next ;)

not really the best example.  that was just the greens at their ideologically-driven worst.  truly amazingly bad politics.  but back to the point....  when have the greens ever supported the libs to form govt. NEVER.  when have they supported liberal legislation. ALMOST never.  to be fair, they don't support labor legislation much either.

What about Hokey wanting the debt ceiling removed, what about the Libs in Green dress itching to support monkey’s stupid PPL brainfart?

Greens are Libs in green dress. They are not progressive tho they use some trendy progressive issues as a figleaf, e.g. SSM and VE.

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:19am:

What about Hokey wanting the debt ceiling removed, what about the Libs in Green dress itching to support monkey’s stupid PPL brainfart? Greens are Libs in green dress. They are not progressive tho they use some trendy progressive issues as a figleaf, e.g. SSM and VE.

I see you haven't lost your touch for saying the utterly stupid.

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:19am: What about Hokey wanting the debt ceiling removed, what about the Libs in Green dress itching to support monkey’s stupid PPL brainfart? Greens are Libs in green dress. They are not progressive tho they use some trendy progressive issues as a figleaf, e.g. SSM and VE. I see you haven't lost your touch for saying the utterly stupid.

I notice you carefully did not address my points about the debt ceiling or PPL. You are a coward who is too scared to actually address the issues just tosses abuse around.

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:21am: St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:19am: What about Hokey wanting the debt ceiling removed, what about the Libs in Green dress itching to support monkey’s stupid PPL brainfart? Greens are Libs in green dress. They are not progressive tho they use some trendy progressive issues as a figleaf, e.g. SSM and VE. I see you haven't lost your touch for saying the utterly stupid. I notice you carefully did not address my points about the debt ceiling or PPL. You are a coward who is too scared to actually address the issues just tosses abuse around.

I couldn't stop laughing after you called the greens 'libs'.  you really are a very stupid person.  how's that $300B NBN going or that $30B database of pits?

You tried to prove I said something about a $10 database of pits and fell flat on your face.

You wisely did not try and get a link to me saying $300Bn for the MTM.

You are a coward, an intellectual pygmy who specialises in abuse.

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:37am:

You tried to prove I said something about a $10 database of pits and fell flat on your face. You wisely did not try and get a link to me saying $300Bn for the MTM. You are a coward, an intellectual pygmy who specialises in abuse.

ah poor diddums...  so the Greens are really 'libs' right???


tough week at work.  I so, so needed a laugh and you gave me one!

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:47am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:37am: You tried to prove I said something about a $10 database of pits and fell flat on your face. You wisely did not try and get a link to me saying $300Bn for the MTM. You are a coward, an intellectual pygmy who specialises in abuse. ah poor diddums...  so the Greens are really 'libs' right??? tough week at work.  I so, so needed a laugh and you gave me one!

Oh, I never thought you would think any but the obvious.

adelcrow wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 6:31am:

Why would the Greens support a bunch of environmental vandals and denialists? The Libs are toast   ;D

$30Million cash in the bank, all voter money and no further record.

The Greens not be that Green folding coin don't change the mind of a Green!

Oh no, whatever will the Liberals do!?!?!?  :D :D :D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:11pm:

Oh no, whatever will the Liberals do!?!?!?  :D :D :D

Enjoy opposition for next 4 years  ;D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:11pm:

Oh no, whatever will the Liberals do!?!?!?  :D :D :D

What they usually do. They go, fine, we accept your judgement, but dam if you aren't making it harder to pay off labor debt. You gots ta wake up sum day.

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 12:11pm: Oh no, whatever will the Liberals do!?!?!?  :D :D :D What they usually do. They go, fine, we accept your judgement, but dam if you aren't making it harder to pay off labor debt. You gots ta wake up sum day.

Only the leftards think the Liberals even want or need the support of the Greens, LMAO!!!  :D :D :D :D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:35pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 12:23pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 12:11pm: Oh no, whatever will the Liberals do!?!?!?  :D :D :D What they usually do. They go, fine, we accept your judgement, but dam if you aren't making it harder to pay off labor debt. You gots ta wake up sum day. Only the leftards think the Liberals even want or need the support of the Greens, LMAO!!!  :D :D :D :D

Sometimes you may have a moment like that. But then integrity kicks in and your leader says "We will preference the Greens Party LAST"

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:35pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 12:23pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 12:11pm: Oh no, whatever will the Liberals do!?!?!?  :D :D :D What they usually do. They go, fine, we accept your judgement, but dam if you aren't making it harder to pay off labor debt. You gots ta wake up sum day. Only the leftards think the Liberals even want or need the support of the Greens, LMAO!!!  :D :D :D :D

The Libs wanted the Greens help in opposing Rudd’s CPRS and Hokey wanted their help in removing the debt ceiling.

Labour paid the Greens $30Million cash to pass a Carbon Tax, a LNP preferencing the Greens would send an odd signal.

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 12:43pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 12:35pm: progressiveslol wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 12:23pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 12:11pm: Oh no, whatever will the Liberals do!?!?!?  :D :D :D What they usually do. They go, fine, we accept your judgement, but dam if you aren't making it harder to pay off labor debt. You gots ta wake up sum day. Only the leftards think the Liberals even want or need the support of the Greens, LMAO!!!  :D :D :D :D The Libs wanted the Greens help in opposing Rudd’s CPRS and Hokey wanted their help in removing the debt ceiling.

And. Its not like the greens just aren't there.... yet. The greens can and will be used when ever anyone feels like it, but don't be a Gillard and give them your vagina and the Australian peoples azz.

The Victorian Liberals have chosen to place the Greens last on their HTV cards for the forthcoming Victorian election. It has nothing to do with support for individual pieces of legislation, nor has it anything to do with Federal issues.

Bam wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 1:06pm:

The Victorian Liberals have chosen to place the Greens last on their HTV cards for the forthcoming Victorian election. It has nothing to do with support for individual pieces of legislation, nor has it anything to do with Federal issues.

Integrety from the Liberals yet again.

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 1:14pm:

Bam wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 1:06pm: The Victorian Liberals have chosen to place the Greens last on their HTV cards for the forthcoming Victorian election. It has nothing to do with support for individual pieces of legislation, nor has it anything to do with Federal issues. Integrety from the Liberals yet again.

Doesn't mean anything. The Liberals are still doomed to be defeated in 14 days.

Bam wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 2:37pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 1:14pm: Bam wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 1:06pm: The Victorian Liberals have chosen to place the Greens last on their HTV cards for the forthcoming Victorian election. It has nothing to do with support for individual pieces of legislation, nor has it anything to do with Federal issues. Integrety from the Liberals yet again. Doesn't mean anything. The Liberals are still doomed to be defeated in 14 days.

The Libs are to busy preferencing all the dodgy one off candidates they've set up as pretend independents ...thats the Libs moral high ground for ya  ;D ;D

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:47am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:37am: You tried to prove I said something about a $10 database of pits and fell flat on your face. You wisely did not try and get a link to me saying $300Bn for the MTM. You are a coward, an intellectual pygmy who specialises in abuse. ah poor diddums...  so the Greens are really 'libs' right??? tough week at work.  I so, so needed a laugh and you gave me one!

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