Quote:

abbott's fault right??? idiot.

Looks like you can called some one idiot and not get holiday.


if you post something like this


Quote:

Don't like to say my mum is dumb or anything.....

post by one member

Quote:

She must be dumb she had you.

reply by another member

you get a 4 days holiday


Call someone dickhead and get a week holiday

John S wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

Call someone dickhead and get a week holiday

You should try that at work John........that's assuming you work that is...

whats wrong with IDIOT?.... is it a swear word.?...

tell us john.s. is it only swear words that should get someone banned...

I am under the impression a person gets banned because someone complained to the mods..

now if you are saying they get banned via the swear filter....then we should all know about that...

I am assuming dickhead is deemed  slightly worse than idiot..

we are talking about those PERSONAL attacks are we not?

John S wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

Quote: abbott's fault right??? idiot. Looks like you can called some one idiot and not get holiday. if you post something like this [quote] Don't like to say my mum is dumb or anything.....

post by one member

Quote:

She must be dumb she had you.

reply by another member

you get a 4 days holiday


Call someone dickhead and get a week holiday[/quote]

May I suggest:

1. Calling Politicians and anybody else in public life rude names on this Forum is normal. In fact you have to, otherwise you look ineffectual.

2. Calling other Posters here rude names is also normal, within reason.

3. Venturing into calling a Posters' FAMILY rude names as a slight is, usually, worth a ban on most Forums.

If you can't get your payback via boyish slights, cease and desist attacking the poster's family or you will get a holiday.  I think that is fair .... UNLESS the poster introduces their FAMILY ........ then no holds barred.  ;)

Yes. I am looking at YOU, who knows who he is.  ;)

Neferti wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 6:16pm:

Venturing into calling a Posters' FAMILY rude names as a slight is, usually, worth a ban on most Forums

In this case this particular member bought his own mum into the conversation with ...
'Don't like to say my mum is dumb or anything' , the reply of  'She must be dumb she had you' was, I think,  rather mild ..

if he didn't want anyone to mention his mum, he shouldn't have bought her into the conversation

Neferti wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 6:16pm:

UNLESS the poster introduces their FAMILY ........ then no holds barred

sorry Neferti, I missed this earlier ....

Wow. It must be a more difficult concept to grasp. If you dish out personal abuse to other members and either the mods notice or it's brought to our attention, be prepared to take a holiday. There's no point whinging about it - just don't do it.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 7:02pm:

Wow. It must be a more difficult concept to grasp. If you dish out personal abuse to other members and either the mods notice or it's brought to our attention, be prepared to take a holiday. There's no point whinging about it - just don't do it.

Huh?


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IGNORE aussie.  He is so completely techno stupid that he actually PAID a guru to show him how to capture a screenshot. Lawyers bootlace. Brain dead. Needs a licence to run a computer in this day and age.  Grin Grin Grin

Brought to the attention of freediver and the GMs last evening......and..............here the Poster is.............still stalking this evening.

Aussie wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 7:15pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 20th, 2014 at 7:02pm: Wow. It must be a more difficult concept to grasp. If you dish out personal abuse to other members and either the mods notice or it's brought to our attention, be prepared to take a holiday. There's no point whinging about it - just don't do it. Huh? Quote: IGNORE aussie.  He is so completely techno stupid that he actually PAID a guru to show him how to capture a screenshot. Lawyers bootlace. Brain dead. Needs a licence to run a computer in this day and age.  Grin Grin Grin Brought to the attention of freediver and the GMs last evening......and..............here the Poster is.............still stalking this evening.

One post is hardly stalking. Or are you talking about the abuse of demented looking emoticons? They bother me too, but unfortunately Freediver doesn't let the moderators dish out the permanent bans that they deserve.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 7:24pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 20th, 2014 at 7:15pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 20th, 2014 at 7:02pm: Wow. It must be a more difficult concept to grasp. If you dish out personal abuse to other members and either the mods notice or it's brought to our attention, be prepared to take a holiday. There's no point whinging about it - just don't do it. Huh? Quote: IGNORE aussie.  He is so completely techno stupid that he actually PAID a guru to show him how to capture a screenshot. Lawyers bootlace. Brain dead. Needs a licence to run a computer in this day and age.  Grin Grin Grin Brought to the attention of freediver and the GMs last evening......and..............here the Poster is.............still stalking this evening. One post is hardly stalking. Or are you talking about the abuse of demented looking emoticons? They bother me too, but unfortunately Freediver doesn't let the moderators dish out the permanent bans that they deserve.

Okay....but why did you ignore the abuse contained in that post of last evening.  Is it not personal abuse?

As for freediver's restrictions on the GMs......don't you reckon the Members ought to know of them so that we Members do not easily lose respect for the GMs who seem to be either inconsistent (St George has now been banned for four days for referring to someone as an 'idiot'.....yet I can be freely abused as 'Lawyer's bootlace' and 'brain dead') or totally ignorant of the Rules.  Is skippy's signature still an external link in blatant breach of the Rules?

(Edit:  Indeed it is.....I've just checked.  The external link is still his signature.  Were you unaware of that?)

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 7:24pm:

Or are you talking about the abuse of demented looking emoticons? T

Is it al least possible to limit the number of them per post? They make me want to strangle the abusers.

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 20th, 2014 at 7:24pm: Or are you talking about the abuse of demented looking emoticons? T Is it al least possible to limit the number of them per post? They make me want to strangle the abusers.

I used to use them here.  I stopped.......and used English instead.

Aussie wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 7:41pm:

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 20th, 2014 at 7:40pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 20th, 2014 at 7:24pm: Or are you talking about the abuse of demented looking emoticons? T Is it al least possible to limit the number of them per post? They make me want to strangle the abusers. I used to use them here.  I stopped.......and used English instead.

I still use them, wink!
Nah, I prefer
I still use them. ;)

Quote:

Unlike yours who did the great dane on purpose.

Did the person that posted this get a holiday.

If not why not and if they did how long did they get?

John S wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 6:14am:

Quote: Unlike yours who did the great dane on purpose. Did the person that posted this get a holiday. If not why not and if they did how long did they get?

The status of other people's memberships isn't discussed.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 6:36am:

John S wrote on Nov 21st, 2014 at 6:14am: Quote: Unlike yours who did the great dane on purpose. Did the person that posted this get a holiday. If not why not and if they did how long did they get? The status of other people's memberships isn't discussed.

So someone that is not a GM can bring up about other members getting a holiday but a GM can't


Aussie wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 7:34pm:

Okay....but why did you ignore the abuse contained in that post of last evening.  Is it not personal abuse? As for freediver's restrictions on the GMs......don't you reckon the Members ought to know of them so that we Members do not easily lose respect for the GMs who seem to be either inconsistent (St George has now been banned for four days for referring to someone as an 'idiot'.....yet I can be freely abused as 'Lawyer's bootlace' and 'brain dead') or totally ignorant of the Rules.  Is skippy's signature still an external link in blatant breach of the Rules? (Edit:  Indeed it is.....I've just checked.  The external link is still his signature.  Were you unaware of that?)

Aussie wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 7:15pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 20th, 2014 at 7:02pm: Wow. It must be a more difficult concept to grasp. If you dish out personal abuse to other members and either the mods notice or it's brought to our attention, be prepared to take a holiday. There's no point whinging about it - just don't do it. Huh? Quote: IGNORE aussie.  He is so completely techno stupid that he actually PAID a guru to show him how to capture a screenshot. Lawyers bootlace. Brain dead. Needs a licence to run a computer in this day and age.  Grin Grin Grin Brought to the attention of freediver and the GMs last evening......and..............here the Poster is.............still stalking this evening.

Annie?????

The GMs need to be a bit more accountable. If I get banned for 3 days and I ask twice by PM and then publicly—why don’t I get an answer when I ask why I was banned? That makes it WAY too easy for a GM to stalk someone.

There needs to be some accountability!

John S wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

Quote: abbott's fault right??? idiot. Looks like you can called some one idiot and not get holiday.

Comment's like THAT might be the reason someone may be called 'idiot'...Don't you think??

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 10:04pm:

John S wrote on Nov 19th, 2014 at 12:53pm: Quote: abbott's fault right??? idiot. Looks like you can called some one idiot and not get holiday. Comment's like THAT might be the reason someone may be called 'idiot'...Don't you think??

That was not me that called someone a idiot i just put the quote to show how the mods do not play fair with their rulings.

I wonder if he didn't get a holiday because he is a liberal supporter.

I won't put the link up on where he said it

Aussie wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 7:15pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 20th, 2014 at 7:02pm: Wow. It must be a more difficult concept to grasp. If you dish out personal abuse to other members and either the mods notice or it's brought to our attention, be prepared to take a holiday. There's no point whinging about it - just don't do it. Huh? Quote: IGNORE aussie.  He is so completely techno stupid that he actually PAID a guru to show him how to capture a screenshot. Lawyers bootlace. Brain dead. Needs a licence to run a computer in this day and age.  Grin Grin Grin Brought to the attention of freediver and the GMs last evening......and..............here the Poster is.............still stalking this evening.

quite the tattle tale arent you. It seems your first response when you see a post you dont like is to go squealing to the moderators. This is why i doubt your legal credentials, lawyers are normally good talkers and debaters but you dont, you dont debate anything.  You whinge, all the time.

Quote:

quite the tattle tale arent you. It seems your first response when you see a post you dont like is to go squealing to the moderators.

You have no idea what my first response is, and you also have no idea of the context.  You may not have noticed that I do not personally abuse or insult in my Posts, and I have the entirely reasonable expectation that I will be treated the same way.  There is, as AA pointed out, a simple way to avoid GM adverse attention ~ comply with the Rule concerning personal abuse.



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This is why i doubt your legal credentials,

I am totally unconcerned what you doubt.  You simply don't know, like I do.



Quote:

lawyers are normally good talkers and debaters but you dont, you dont debate anything.

I do not participate here as a Lawyer.  I do not come here to debate.  I prefer discussing facts and may occasionally express an opinion, as you may have noticed. 


Quote:

You whinge, all the time.

That says it all Ian.  One gross exaggeration too far.

last time i looked this wasnt youir personal internet site. So suck it up Princess..............

Aussie wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 7:31am:

You have no idea what my first response is, and you also have no idea of the context.  You may not have noticed that I do not personally abuse or insult in my Posts, and I have the entirely reasonable expectation that I will be treated the same way.  There is, as AA pointed out, a simple way to avoid GM adverse attention ~ comply with the Rule concerning personal abuse

hummmmmmmmm you have had a few mentions regarding my ability to understand aussie...!!!

I can search for the actual language if you like....

but dont pretend you havent put me down when its suited you...of course its always been in a polite fashion...but it doesnt take away from the insult all the same.

ian wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 8:29am:

last time i looked this wasnt youir personal internet site. So suck it up Princess..............

I don't recall ever posting anything even remotely suggesting this was my personal site.  Got a link? 

Suck what up?  It seems to me that all the whingeing is not coming from me at all, hey Ian?

Aussie wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 7:31am:

Quote: quite the tattle tale arent you. It seems your first response when you see a post you dont like is to go squealing to the moderators. You have no idea what my first response is, and you also have no idea of the context.  You may not have noticed that I do not personally abuse or insult in my Posts, and I have the entirely reasonable expectation that I will be treated the same way.  There is, as AA pointed out, a simple way to avoid GM adverse attention ~ comply with the Rule concerning personal abuse. Quote: This is why i doubt your legal credentials, I am totally unconcerned what you doubt.  You simply don't know, like I do. Quote: lawyers are normally good talkers and debaters but you dont, you dont debate anything. I do not participate here as a Lawyer.  I do not come here to debate.  I prefer discussing facts and may occasionally express an opinion, as you may have noticed. Quote: You whinge, all the time. That says it all Ian.  One gross exaggeration too far.

Don't take it personally, Oz. Ian's just insecure about his own achievements. Check out this advice on how to deal with an insecure person.


cods wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 9:13am:

but dont pretend you havent put me down when its suited you...of course its always been in a polite fashion...but it doesnt take away from the insult all the same.

Everyone here's a troll, cods. Everyone. Think about it - when was the last time you had an intelligent, reasoned discussion on ozpol? Where the loser of an argument would graciously concede and say, "hey, I never thought of that/you're entirely right/I'm going to change my opinion"?

John S wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

Quote: abbott's fault right??? idiot. Looks like you can called some one idiot and not get holiday. if you post something like this [quote] Don't like to say my mum is dumb or anything.....

post by one member

Quote:

She must be dumb she had you.

reply by another member

you get a 4 days holiday


Call someone dickhead and get a week holiday[/quote]

Superb post. My old English teacher would have a field day.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 6:36am:

John S wrote on Nov 21st, 2014 at 6:14am: Quote: Unlike yours who did the great dane on purpose. Did the person that posted this get a holiday. If not why not and if they did how long did they get? The status of other people's memberships isn't discussed.

except mine which I like to freely disclose until freediver tells me to please stop  ;D ;D

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 10:48am:

Don't take it personally, Oz. Ian's just insecure about his own achievements. Check out this advice on how to deal with an insecure person.

I havent mentioned any acheivements. Massive fail for you there son.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 11:02am:

John S wrote on Nov 19th, 2014 at 12:53pm: Quote: abbott's fault right??? idiot. Looks like you can called some one idiot and not get holiday. if you post something like this [quote] Don't like to say my mum is dumb or anything..... post by one member [quote] She must be dumb she had you.

reply by another member

you get a 4 days holiday


Call someone dickhead and get a week holiday[/quote]

Superb post. My old English teacher would have a field day.[/quote]


Does anyone think that the bit highlighted is personal abuse.

You put this up and you get a holiday


Quote:

She must be dumb she had you.

Of course it is abuse in clear breach of the Rules.  There are two options.

1.  The Rules are enforced.
2.  The 'abuse' Rule is abandoned.

Not too long ago, I'd go for option 2.  Nah.....you go that way, you can wave 'goodbye' to your Forum.

That would not happen overnight...............but it will, ultimately. I and I'm sure many of you have seen it all before.

In my opinion the strength of this forum lies in the laxity of moderation.

ian wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 10:50pm:

In my opinion the strength of this forum lies in the laxity of moderation.

I have zero problem with that.  So.....the relevant Rule needs substantial amendment.

All fine by me...but I know it will end in tears.

ian wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 10:50pm:

In my opinion the strength of this forum lies in the laxity of moderation.

Moderators should step in to keep a level of order to ensure free flowing opinions and that a level of social decorum is observed.
Everyone is entitled to make an opinion on here though free from being personally abused.

A lot of moderators time though can be sifting through endless reporting by some members of wild goose chases which aren't abuse at all.

The main problem we have here is the expectation that the rules will be enforced, the no personal abuse rule is unenforcable anyway in my opinion and should be dispensed with. Personal abuse is subjective, it amounts to what exactly a particular moderator doesnt like and thats wrong.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 10:57pm:

ian wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 10:50pm: In my opinion the strength of this forum lies in the laxity of moderation. Moderators should step in to keep a level of order to ensure free flowing opinions and that a level of social decorum is observed. Everyone is entitled to make an opinion on here though free from being personally abused. A lot of moderators time though can be sifting through endless reporting by some members of wild goose chases which aren't abuse at all.

look, im quite sure in real life we could have a couple of beers and call each other dickeads in the time honoured australian tradition and think nothing of it. Why should this forum be any different? This is australia, not some poncy country like england where we all are supposed to mind our manners.

Depends where you are viewing the forum I guess.

I could say this isn't some uncouth, poorly mannered country like Australia - this is the civilised world, this is Europe.

We could all pretend to be civilised. It wouldn't hurt anyone.

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 10:48am:

but dont pretend you havent put me down when its suited you...of course its always been in a polite fashion...but it doesnt take away from the insult all the same. Everyone here's a troll, cods. Everyone. Think about it - when was the last time you had an intelligent, reasoned discussion on ozpol? Where the loser of an argument would graciously concede and say, "hey, I never thought of that/you're entirely right/I'm going to change my opinion"?

thats NOT true of course...

but lets get the word troll into perspective...it isnt everyone...a troll is a few things... they are stalkers as they usually feel its their divine right to say something about a certain someone all the time...usually not a thing about the topic...its usually 1 line personal something....

like in the case of gregs posts about herb... "herb  is the troll"...yet its greg whos doing the stalking if anyone cares to count the number of posts.. ::) ::) as if...

the point is they usually ruin the whole thread...and turn it into a personal.battlefield.

I can see where facebook gets its bad name from....and the fact the person being stalked cannot seem to do a thing about it....they are cornered by a psycho.. so to speak... there is no switch off button..

do you not think gregs pursuit of herb.... is over the top? :( :(

it isnt amusing or intelligent... its sick and silly.

but there is no stopping him.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 10:57pm:

ian wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 10:50pm: In my opinion the strength of this forum lies in the laxity of moderation. Moderators should step in to keep a level of order to ensure free flowing opinions and that a level of social decorum is observed. Everyone is entitled to make an opinion on here though free from being personally abused. A lot of moderators time though can be sifting through endless reporting by some members of wild goose chases which aren't abuse at all.

so why not tell us what is a WILD GOOSE CHASE...no names just examples... of silly reporting that wont get looked at....

a lot of people think mods read all the threads and cherry pick who they will ban.,...

well we know thats not the case....and if people are reporting silly stuff.. tell us what they are and you wont act on...in other words...

grow a couple...

I very rarely report anyone these days.... I find its doesnt stop anyone doing what they do...so it all seems rather pointless, yes one might get a few day respite.. but they return doing exactly the same thing.....

whats is the point of it all  andrei...fill me in?

Aussie wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 10:47pm:

Of course it is abuse in clear breach of the Rules.  There are two options. 1.  The Rules are enforced. 2.  The 'abuse' Rule is abandoned. Not too long ago, I'd go for option 2.  Nah.....you go that way, you can wave 'goodbye' to your Forum. That would not happen overnight...............but it will, ultimately. I and I'm sure many of you have seen it all before.

Indeed.....on the Yahoo 7 forum the trolls were allowed to run riot and it eventually closed down. That's why we are here.

ian wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 11:00pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 10:57pm: ian wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 10:50pm: In my opinion the strength of this forum lies in the laxity of moderation. Moderators should step in to keep a level of order to ensure free flowing opinions and that a level of social decorum is observed. Everyone is entitled to make an opinion on here though free from being personally abused. A lot of moderators time though can be sifting through endless reporting by some members of wild goose chases which aren't abuse at all. look, im quite sure in real life we could have a couple of beers and call each other dickeads in the time honoured australian tradition and think nothing of it. Why should this forum be any different? This is australia, not some poncy country like england where we all are supposed to mind our manners.

That's the bloody trouble. We have a pommy moderator that only been in the country for about 3 years and he wants us all to talk with the Queens language

Well I tell the pommy that I will be using Australia lingo and slang and if he doesn't like he can p!ss off back to pommy land.

I know the dickhead pommy hates my guts because I show him up like a dickhead he is. Now I will get another holiday for calling him a dickhead and all it will show is how much a dickhead he is.

If he doesn't give a holiday over this he will find something else to give a holiday for, and I bet it will be about my signature that I have had for months.


Just because someone is highly educated with a university degree doesn't mean that they have a brain

John S wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 8:03am:

ian wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 11:00pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 10:57pm: ian wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 10:50pm: In my opinion the strength of this forum lies in the laxity of moderation. Moderators should step in to keep a level of order to ensure free flowing opinions and that a level of social decorum is observed. Everyone is entitled to make an opinion on here though free from being personally abused. A lot of moderators time though can be sifting through endless reporting by some members of wild goose chases which aren't abuse at all. look, im quite sure in real life we could have a couple of beers and call each other dickeads in the time honoured australian tradition and think nothing of it. Why should this forum be any different? This is australia, not some poncy country like england where we all are supposed to mind our manners. That's the bloody trouble. We have a pommy moderator that only been in the country for about 3 years and he wants us all to talk with the Queens language Well I tell the pommy that I will be using Australia lingo and slang and if he doesn't like he can p!ss off back to pommy land. I know the dickhead pommy hates my guts because I show him up like a dickhead he is. Now I will get another holiday for calling him a dickhead and all it will show is how much a dickhead he is. If he doesn't give a holiday over this he will find something else to give a holiday for, and I bet it will be about my signature that I have had for months. Just because someone is highly educated with a university degree doesn't mean that they have a brain

since when did we get a pommie mod?????...

its news to me.

John S wrote on Nov 19^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

Quote: abbott's fault right??? idiot. Looks like you can called some one idiot and not get holiday.

He often signs his posts as Idiot, I think that self insults don't count.

More seriously he does often say that but it gets little reaction from me, it only invalidates any opinion he may have and he mainly goes to that strategy when he has no other answer.

He has that label for anyone who does not agree with him.

It does however seem that some people are moderated to differing standards, some deserve it but some seem to get a free ride and are allowed to say what they like.

I don't really have a problem I tend to mostly laugh at any insults, I seem to attract them every day and have never reported anyone.

Quote:

That's the bloody trouble. We have a pommy moderator that only been in the country for about 3 years and he wants us all to talk with the Queens language Well I tell the pommy that I will be using Australia lingo and slang and if he doesn't like he can p!ss off back to pommy land. I know the dickhead pommy hates my guts because I show him up like a dickhead he is. Now I will get another holiday for calling him a dickhead and all it will show is how much a dickhead he is. If he doesn't give a holiday over this he will find something else to give a holiday for, and I bet it will be about my signature that I have had for months. Just because someone is highly educated with a university degree doesn't mean that they have a brain

Just got Email from my cousin and 1/2 hour after posting this he got a holiday

The highlighter part  proves his point.

I.B. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 9:36am:

Quote: That's the bloody trouble. We have a pommy moderator that only been in the country for about 3 years and he wants us all to talk with the Queens language Well I tell the pommy that I will be using Australia lingo and slang and if he doesn't like he can p!ss off back to pommy land. I know the dickhead pommy hates my guts because I show him up like a dickhead he is. Now I will get another holiday for calling him a dickhead and all it will show is how much a dickhead he is. If he doesn't give a holiday over this he will find something else to give a holiday for, and I bet it will be about my signature that I have had for months. Just because someone is highly educated with a university degree doesn't mean that they have a brain Just got Email from my cousin and 1/2 hour after posting this he got a holiday The highlighter part  proves his point.

so you are saying john your cousin is a d.h.??

just asking..

Maybe there is just a limit as to how many times you can say the word dh in the one post?

Dnarever wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 8:25am:

I don't really have a problem I tend to mostly laugh at any insults, I seem to attract them every day and have never reported anyone.

I blame the avatar  ;)
John S wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 8:03am:

Just because someone is highly educated with a university degree doesn't mean that they have a brain

Right. You clearly don't realise how stupid that sounds - unless you're talking about Bachelors of Arts, Commerce, or Sport Science.

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:13am:

Right. You clearly don't realise how stupid that sounds - unless you're talking about Bachelors of Arts, Commerce, or Sport Science.

pretending you can hear someone over the internet is just as stupid. Now call me insecure again, you have only done that 50 times today  ;D ;D ;D ;D

ian wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 2:13pm:

pretending you can hear someone over the internet is just as stupid. Now call me insecure again, you have only done that 50 times today  Grin Grin Grin Grin

Ah, the armchair mathematician. I'd have hoped your maths was a little better than that. I suggest you have a recount - I haven't called you insecure today. But, since you bring it up - you have my sympathies. As a goodwill gesture, I even found you a help site: How to overcome insecurity - With pictures!.

It even has pictures, so you don't have to trouble yourself with words.

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:13am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 8:25am: I don't really have a problem I tend to mostly laugh at any insults, I seem to attract them every day and have never reported anyone. I blame the avatar  ;) John S wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 8:03am: Just because someone is highly educated with a university degree doesn't mean that they have a brain Right. You clearly don't realise how stupid that sounds - unless you're talking about Bachelors of Arts, Commerce, or Sport Science.

I know a couple of people who have no common sense, they are unable to do basic tasks, their thought patterns are erratic and they are, without doubt, totally crazy and  ...  they both hold Doctorate degrees.

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 2:24pm:

ian wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 2:13pm: pretending you can hear someone over the internet is just as stupid. Now call me insecure again, you have only done that 50 times today  Grin Grin Grin Grin Ah, the armchair mathematician. I'd have hoped your maths was a little better than that. I suggest you have a recount - I haven't called you insecure today. But, since you bring it up - you have my sympathies. As a goodwill gesture, I even found you a help site: How to overcome insecurity - With pictures!. It even has pictures, so you don't have to trouble yourself with words.

He is confusing you with me.  Pretty soon, he'll be telling you what emotion you felt when you typed that post.  He is very versatile and man of many voodoo talents.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 10:57pm:

ian wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 10:50pm: In my opinion the strength of this forum lies in the laxity of moderation. Moderators should step in to keep a level of order to ensure free flowing opinions and that a level of social decorum is observed. Everyone is entitled to make an opinion on here though free from being personally abused. A lot of moderators time though can be sifting through endless reporting by some members of wild goose chases which aren't abuse at all.

The problem with that mate, is that it is entirely subjective. Both the complainer's "definition" of abuse and yours as a mod.

There in is the problem. Since no two people will necessarily see the same thing as abuse at times, it would be appropriate for the mods to put in a bit of time developing a clearly articulated definition of what they (the mods) deem as abuse. Otherwise, if someone is upset, they may/will cry foul and look for abuse, I am sure that is basically what you are alluding to. If you aren't prepared though to articulate a clear definition for ALL then this circle jerk style of arguing will stand as debate for as long as the place has a membership.

By the way, when I say this I mean ALL mods, including the site owner. This will further assist mods (I would respectfully suggest) in terms of having the appearance of consistency.

I understand the respect for privacy aspect precluding conversations about who does and doesn't have enforcement of rules applied to them. If your definitions are clear though, no discussion will be required, as FD is want of saying look over recent posting history. That is currently a rather trite or even stupid position to take, because what is deemed abuse is clearly on a sliding scale and to some degree dependent on a mods personal view of what constitutes abuse.

Clearly articulated definitions therefore will make the "look at the last few posts" comment self evident, currently that is just a smarmy non response though.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 25^th, 2014 at 11:13pm:

Depends where you are viewing the forum I guess. I could say this isn't some uncouth, poorly mannered country like Australia - this is the civilised world, this is Europe.

Actually, that would be abusive, particularly given the currently subjective nature of things.

Further, it reflects somewhat ignorant, divisive and immaturity in response to the topic.

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 3:13pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 11:13pm: Depends where you are viewing the forum I guess. I could say this isn't some uncouth, poorly mannered country like Australia - this is the civilised world, this is Europe. Actually, that would be abusive, particularly given the currently subjective nature of things. Further, it reflects somewhat ignorant, divisive and immaturity in response to the topic.

There's no personal abuse in that post whatsoever.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:27am:

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 3:13pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 11:13pm: Depends where you are viewing the forum I guess. I could say this isn't some uncouth, poorly mannered country like Australia - this is the civilised world, this is Europe. Actually, that would be abusive, particularly given the currently subjective nature of things. Further, it reflects somewhat ignorant, divisive and immaturity in response to the topic. There's no personal abuse in that post whatsoever.

so who or what makes this an "uncouth poorly mannered country" then,  in your opinion andrei..

if its not the people???????????????.

There you go cods.....

personal
[pur-suh-nl]  Spell  Syllables
Examples Word Origin
adjective
1.
of, pertaining to, or coming as from a particular person; individual; private:
a personal opinion.
2.
relating to, directed to, or intended for a particular person: a personal favor; one's personal life; a letter marked “Personal.”.
3.
intended for use by one person:
a personal car.
4.
referring or directed to a particular person in a disparaging or offensive sense or manner, usually involving character, behavior, appearance, etc.:
personal remarks.

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 2:24pm:

ian wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 2:13pm: pretending you can hear someone over the internet is just as stupid. Now call me insecure again, you have only done that 50 times today  Grin Grin Grin Grin Ah, the armchair mathematician. I'd have hoped your maths was a little better than that. I suggest you have a recount - I haven't called you insecure today. But, since you bring it up - you have my sympathies. As a goodwill gesture, I even found you a help site: How to overcome insecurity - With pictures!. It even has pictures, so you don't have to trouble yourself with words.

lol, I knew you couldnt make a post without projecting your own inferiiority complex.. Im  quite aware of exactly why you and Aussie feel threatened by me.

There is no abuse of a personal nature in my post.

This is a forum. People can make a wide ranging set of comments and views.
They can call English stuck up generally, Australians louts, Americans insular etc.

Politicians are also criticised they are public figures, they don't post on here so again - unless it's libellous that too is not curtailed. Lord only knows George would be banned every week if abusing politicians was against the rules.

But personally abusing posters on here is not allowed. People should be able to post their view, have it criticised and not suffer personal abuse.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:36am:

There you go cods..... personal [pur-suh-nl]  Spell  Syllables Examples Word Origin adjective 1. of, pertaining to, or coming as from a particular person; individual; private: a personal opinion. 2. relating to, directed to, or intended for a particular person: a personal favor; one's personal life; a letter marked “Personal.”. 3. intended for use by one person: a personal car. 4. referring or directed to a particular person in a disparaging or offensive sense or manner, usually involving character, behavior, appearance, etc.: personal remarks.

when you denigrate a whole country.. you denigrate each and everyone of us...

its the same thing...if someone said Britain was a cesspool full of only  paedophiles...would you take that as a personal attack on yourself??..

you were very rude about this country as a whole...but I am not surprised..

The point Andrei which you dont seem to get is that personal abuse is subjective.

ian wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:42am:

The point Andrei which you dont seem to get is that personal abuse is subjective.

In some ways yes, the majority of the time the intent to abuse someone is clear to all.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:40am:

There is no abuse of a personal nature in my post. This is a forum. People can make a wide ranging set of comments and views. They can call English stuck up generally, Australians louts, Americans insular etc. Politicians are also criticised they are public figures, they don't post on here so again - unless it's libellous that too is not curtailed. Lord only knows George would be banned every week if abusing politicians was against the rules. But personally abusing posters on here is not allowed. People should be able to post their view, have it criticised and not suffer personal abuse.

but it happens... and the mods turn a blind eye... in fact some mods even do the abusing....well its not abuse in their eyes obviously...shall we say PUT DOWNS...talking to cods is like talking to a rock..that sort of stuff...

if I did that to them.. the outcry would be heard all the way to fds office... ::) ::)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:44am:

ian wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 6:42am: The point Andrei which you dont seem to get is that personal abuse is subjective. In some ways yes, the majority of the time the intent to abuse someone is clear to all.

may we ask.. what do you do to stop it?

Intent to abuse? We would all be banned forever

cods wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:46am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 6:44am: ian wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 6:42am: The point Andrei which you dont seem to get is that personal abuse is subjective. In some ways yes, the majority of the time the intent to abuse someone is clear to all. may we ask.. what do you do to stop it?

You can ask yes.
Depending on the situation it can be a warning, a short suspension or in the case of serial offenders longer ones.
It really depends on each situation.

ian wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:48am:

Intent to abuse? We would all be banned forever

NO Ian its really not about that  its more about learning the lesson..

whats the point of banning someone when they come back and do virtually the same thing over and over....

like stuff up threads with inane repetiative one liners..... usually with a sly  personal content..

too stupid to report but they do it all the time and to a lot of threads...they dont in other words care..


Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:48am:

You can ask yes. Depending on the situation it can be a warning, a short suspension or in the case of serial offenders longer ones. It really depends on each situation

of course I understand that..but one member whom I chat to on PM.. has been a target for years....as I have myself...by the same pests...

sorry andrei I have even contacted yourself on one occasion but it didnt stop anything...they should be threatened with being banned forever.. full stop...

yes it should be up to the mods to say if its bad enough for that....not just some petty get your own back...but some of this... what could be called BULLYING...goes on for years..and it is the same thing the same comments some of us cannot open our mouths without these people being there to try and shut us up...if it was about the topic I would understand but it never is..

its personal.. because they never talk to others like that.. and they never ever take our side...the other person is always right.... always.so a little gang forms...

You cant be bullied unless you allow it Cods, thats the lesson for you. They are just words on the screen. And yes, I agree you are targeted but that is the nature of the internet and no amount of moderation will change it/ Theres an old saying that even the camp Abo has a dog to kick when he goes home at night.. A lot of these people are professionaL losers and have nothing else in thier life, internet forums are always going to attract a large number of these types of people because cyber space is largely anonymous. I will give you another tip, avoid on all occasions to post personal info on the net. Once your stuff is in cyberspace it is not retrievable and these people with their inferiority complexes love to have your personal info, it sends them into a feeding frenzy. I admit to responding rather harshly to some of your posts but the way they are worded and constructed just makes me want to do it and to be quite honest you come over as extremely arrogant and ill educated sometimes. remember we only have the words on the screen and for most it is quite difficult to read the emotional content into it so if you dont construct your posts carefully it reflects poorly on you even though you may have the most valid viewpoint in the world if you cant communicate it effectively theres no point in posting. Myself as an example, I am a poor typist for a couple of reasons, one, I have fingers like pork sausages, two, I am too lazy to use a spell checker or go back and correct the spelling. This quite often results in me being considered below par intellectually, hence I am constantly targeted for my spelling mistakes and poor grammar construction. Thats just the way it is, I dont lose sleep and neither should you. There are some very smart people on this forum but they arent who they think they are. So, take my advice or not but I feel personally feel  better for giving it so at least theres 1 winner here.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:27am:

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 3:13pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 11:13pm: Depends where you are viewing the forum I guess. I could say this isn't some uncouth, poorly mannered country like Australia - this is the civilised world, this is Europe. Actually, that would be abusive, particularly given the currently subjective nature of things. Further, it reflects somewhat ignorant, divisive and immaturity in response to the topic. There's no personal abuse in that post whatsoever.

Firstly I did not say personal, however, to put it in context.

Your comment is clearly not something you are qualified to make judgement on. You made a deliberately offensive comment using a scatter gun approach.

I am a sixth generation Australian. Further to that, one who deliberately tried (admittedly I do fail at times) to not abuse people, despite being assertive.

Your comment I find personally offensive, that is the point. You don't have a framework to go by, and, given you made the personally offensive comment quite deliberately, you are hardly in a position now to try to worm it out by making the some spurious defence that it was in no way "personal" - I am telling you it is personal. That is from someone who has not nor will ever make disparaging comments about where you live, who or what you are descended from or apply any racial stereo types that may (fairly or unfairly) be named.

You threw out the barb, you got a bite, the bottom line is, I find it deeply and personally offensive, hence you have nothing to stand on.

Moderate that if you have the integrity...

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:44am:

ian wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 6:42am: The point Andrei which you dont seem to get is that personal abuse is subjective. In some ways yes, the majority of the time the intent to abuse someone is clear to all.

That would be my point with your abusive comment, its intent is clear...

ian wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 1:36pm:

You cant be bullied unless you allow it Cods, thats the lesson for you. They are just words on the screen. And yes, I agree you are targeted but that is the nature of the internet and no amount of moderation will change it/ Theres an old saying that even the camp Abo has a dog to kick when he goes home at night.. A lot of these people are professionaL losers and have nothing else in thier life, internet forums are always going to attract a large number of these types of people because cyber space is largely anonymous. I will give you another tip, avoid on all occasions to post personal info on the net. Once your stuff is in cyberspace it is not retrievable and these people with their inferiority complexes love to have your personal info, it sends them into a feeding frenzy. I admit to responding rather harshly to some of your posts but the way they are worded and constructed just makes me want to do it and to be quite honest you come over as extremely arrogant and ill educated sometimes. remember we only have the words on the screen and for most it is quite difficult to read the emotional content into it so if you dont construct your posts carefully it reflects poorly on you even though you may have the most valid viewpoint in the world if you cant communicate it effectively theres no point in posting. Myself as an example, I am a poor typist for a couple of reasons, one, I have fingers like pork sausages, two, I am too lazy to use a spell checker or go back and correct the spelling. This quite often results in me being considered below par intellectually, hence I am constantly targeted for my spelling mistakes and poor grammar construction. Thats just the way it is, I dont lose sleep and neither should you. There are some very smart people on this forum but they arent who they think they are. So, take my advice or not but I feel personally feel  better for giving it so at least theres 1 winner here.

I dont think I have ever pretended to be SMART or better than anyone else.. I look at thing different to most people...thats all.. always have done..thats me.. my education was very sparse I am not ashamed of it.. but I could have bettered myself I am sure instead I looked after my man and my 3 kids and since have looked out for grandkids...I come on here to chat not to be criticised for poor spelling.. my spell check doesnt work btw... so ban]d luck about grammar and spelling... I dont come on here to find fault with others education...

I am not up to your level so all I can do is request you dont read my posts as they seem to offend you and agan thats not what I come on here to do.. offend..that is..

as you say they are just words so why do you take them so seriously in that case...

oh gawd dont say anything unless you can put it down so everyone of those well educated folks can read it without being offended...

you see me as one person... but you are mostly alone on that score.. I wont blow my own trumpet but quite a few stick up for me and say nice things...... guess they must understand this peasant???...

what have I to be arrogant about.?? btw being so uneducated and all..

arrogance is usually for the better ones amongst us... isnt it?.. you know the ones who went to school. ::)

one of the reasons I use smiles is to get some emotion into it....make the words...meaningful if you like...

eyes rolling mean sarcasm to me. ;D ;D

Albeit in a very clumsy manner, Ian was trying to be kind.

thats as good as it gets. Ive used up my empathy quota for this year. But you are perceptive Annie.

cods wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 4:59pm:

I dont think I have ever pretended to be SMART or better than anyone else.. I look at thing different to most people...thats all.. always have done..thats me.. my education was very sparse I am not ashamed of it.. but I could have bettered myself I am sure instead I looked after my man and my 3 kids and since have looked out for grandkids...I come on here to chat not to be criticised for poor spelling.. my spell check doesnt work btw... so ban]d luck about grammar and spelling... I dont come on here to find fault with others education... I am not up to your level so all I can do is request you dont read my posts as they seem to offend you and agan thats not what I come on here to do.. offend..that is.. as you say they are just words so why do you take them so seriously in that case... oh gawd dont say anything unless you can put it down so everyone of those well educated folks can read it without being offended... you see me as one person... but you are mostly alone on that score.. I wont blow my own trumpet but quite a few stick up for me and say nice things...... guess they must understand this peasant???... what have I to be arrogant about.?? btw being so uneducated and all.. arrogance is usually for the better ones amongst us... isnt it?.. you know the ones who went to school. ::) one of the reasons I use smiles is to get some emotion into it....make the words...meaningful if you like... eyes rolling mean sarcasm to me. ;D ;D

dont get me wrong Cods, Im not saying you are arrogant, i can see you are a nice person, Im talking about the way we are perceived by our posting style which can lead to misinterpretation of  our comments. You dont need formal education to be smart. The smartest people use google to do their research before they post instead of just having a random opinion.

ian wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 1:36pm:

You cant be bullied unless you allow it Cods, thats the lesson for you. They are just words on the screen.

Very well said, ian. I never thought I'd be saying that to you, but miracles do happen. And Cods, don't let the trolls get you down.


ian wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 1:36pm:

I have fingers like pork sausages

That's your pick up line down at the pub, innit?


ian wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

i can see you are a nice person,

And cods, if ian can see it - you're really nice.


ian wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

Im talking about the way we are perceived by our posting style which can lead to misinterpretation of  our comments

That's why people often think Ian's a bit retarded. But now we know that he's just not nimble enough to hit the right keys.


cods wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 4:59pm:

you see me as one person... but you are mostly alone on that score.. I wont blow my own trumpet but quite a few stick up for me and say nice things...... guess they must understand this peasant???...

Cods, you are the nicest person on these forums. I don't think I've ever seen you engage in trolling - you're actually legit. Everyone else here loves to stir the pot, so try not to take them personally. Keep up the good work, I like reading your posts - even if I don't agree with them - because I know that you'll be able to discuss something in a civilised way.

ian wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

cods wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 4:59pm: I dont think I have ever pretended to be SMART or better than anyone else.. I look at thing different to most people...thats all.. always have done..thats me.. my education was very sparse I am not ashamed of it.. but I could have bettered myself I am sure instead I looked after my man and my 3 kids and since have looked out for grandkids...I come on here to chat not to be criticised for poor spelling.. my spell check doesnt work btw... so ban]d luck about grammar and spelling... I dont come on here to find fault with others education... I am not up to your level so all I can do is request you dont read my posts as they seem to offend you and agan thats not what I come on here to do.. offend..that is.. as you say they are just words so why do you take them so seriously in that case... oh gawd dont say anything unless you can put it down so everyone of those well educated folks can read it without being offended... you see me as one person... but you are mostly alone on that score.. I wont blow my own trumpet but quite a few stick up for me and say nice things...... guess they must understand this peasant???... what have I to be arrogant about.?? btw being so uneducated and all.. arrogance is usually for the better ones amongst us... isnt it?.. you know the ones who went to school. ::) one of the reasons I use smiles is to get some emotion into it....make the words...meaningful if you like... eyes rolling mean sarcasm to me. ;D ;D dont get me wrong Cods, Im not saying you are arrogant, i can see you are a nice person, Im talking about the way we are perceived by our posting style which can lead to misinterpretation of  our comments. You dont need formal education to be smart. The smartest people use google to do their research before they post instead of just having a random opinion.

well like I say Ian.. I am not smart never claimed to be and yes I do google quite a bit.. but I come on here to have a say... if it doesnt agree with some then too bad...if we are all going to c&p and google all the time.. its a complete waste of time..THINK its called THINKING using ones brains and not someone elses....

I have an opinion not always right I agree but it is mostly all my own...

the thread on the verdict in Ferguson is just an opinion...I believe there was room for the cop to be charged...thats all I am saying..I feel for the young mans family who saw his blood splattered all over the road...they are the only ones that knew the young man...everyone else sees him as a black gangster who deserved to be killed like he was AL Capone..... well to each his own..

as you can see Ian A.A> has come out in your favour...are you surprised I am not.. ;) ;)

what I have been banging on about mostly is not what you guys call Bullying.. its the stalking by the same people.... no matter where one goes there they are... usually with one line maybe two...

never about the topic always digs about something...we on the receiving end are expected to see the humour in it all... but after a couple of years of the same thing...dont you think we have a right to have a WHINGE as I am constantly being told I am doing..I might point out... by the person who stalks me... :o :o I would like to see the funny side of it I really would.. but its personal..so you kind of take it personal if you get my drift..

another thing is when ever I have retaliated... in one of my mad moments.. others come out and attack me for doing so...I am the one in the wrong.. never fails..I know dont let one person spoil your time.. but somehow they do.

and I know a few others in the same boat... and they say the same thing..

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:06pm:

ian wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 1:36pm: You cant be bullied unless you allow it Cods, thats the lesson for you. They are just words on the screen. Very well said, ian. I never thought I'd be saying that to you, but miracles do happen. And Cods, don't let the trolls get you down. ian wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 1:36pm: I have fingers like pork sausages That's your pick up line down at the pub, innit? ian wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 5:55pm: i can see you are a nice person, And cods, if ian can see it - you're really nice. ian wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 5:55pm: Im talking about the way we are perceived by our posting style which can lead to misinterpretation of  our comments That's why people often think Ian's a bit retarded. But now we know that he's just not nimble enough to hit the right keys. cods wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 4:59pm: you see me as one person... but you are mostly alone on that score.. I wont blow my own trumpet but quite a few stick up for me and say nice things...... guess they must understand this peasant???... Cods, you are the nicest person on these forums. I don't think I've ever seen you engage in trolling - you're actually legit. Everyone else here loves to stir the pot, so try not to take them personally. Keep up the good work, I like reading your posts - even if I don't agree with them - because I know that you'll be able to discuss something in a civilised way.

gosh I trust you mean that and are not pulling my leg.. well watch it it could be my fake one..lol..

I am being a touchy of late.. think some things catch up every so often...

I am so sad about this young cricketer..so I have no right to feel sorry for myself..at all...

maybe time to move on to happier things...

someone start a HAPPY THREAD>>

cods wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

gosh I trust you mean that and are not pulling my leg.. well watch it it could be my fake one..lol..

Well you hardly ever attack people here. I haven't heard you jumping on the herbert-is-a-troll bandwagon, when he clearly isn't.

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 28^th, 2014 at 11:05am:

cods wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 7:53pm: gosh I trust you mean that and are not pulling my leg.. well watch it it could be my fake one..lol.. Well you hardly ever attack people here. I haven't heard you jumping on the herbert-is-a-troll bandwagon, when he clearly isn't.

its interesting you say that... because I come on here to try and get on  with people..as you can imagine some days when you live alone its the closest you come to talking to someone..and I believe a few people on here live alone..

if I wanted to argue and call people names...I would get a soap box outside woollies...lol..complain about them forcing me to do it myself.....and I wont I wont Iwont..unless they give me at least 10% off....which they wont of course..

we all disagree about certain issues...wouldnt be normal otherwise.. but personal abuse fills me with dread and I prefer not to go there..

as for Herb of course he isnt a troll.. not my idea of one anyway...and I think its particularly gutless to start personal threads knocking people....

if they fight back it makes them... the instigators [ the real trolls] worse... ;D ;D

Aussie wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 3:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 20th, 2014 at 7:15pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 20th, 2014 at 7:02pm: Wow. It must be a more difficult concept to grasp. If you dish out personal abuse to other members and either the mods notice or it's brought to our attention, be prepared to take a holiday. There's no point whinging about it - just don't do it. Huh? Quote: IGNORE aussie.  He is so completely techno stupid that he actually PAID a guru to show him how to capture a screenshot. Lawyers bootlace. Brain dead. Needs a licence to run a computer in this day and age.  Grin Grin Grin Brought to the attention of freediver and the GMs last evening......and..............here the Poster is.............still stalking this evening. Annie?????

Where is the abuse? You freely admit to not being smart enough to manage a screen shot and paying a " professional" for assistance,ROTFLMA sad but  true story bro. ;D ;D ;D

skippy. wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:16pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 21st, 2014 at 3:56pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 20th, 2014 at 7:15pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 20th, 2014 at 7:02pm: Wow. It must be a more difficult concept to grasp. If you dish out personal abuse to other members and either the mods notice or it's brought to our attention, be prepared to take a holiday. There's no point whinging about it - just don't do it. Huh? Quote: IGNORE aussie.  He is so completely techno stupid that he actually PAID a guru to show him how to capture a screenshot. Lawyers bootlace. Brain dead. Needs a licence to run a computer in this day and age.  Grin Grin Grin Brought to the attention of freediver and the GMs last evening......and..............here the Poster is.............still stalking this evening. Annie????? Where is the abuse? You freely admit to not being smart enough to manage a screen shot and paying a " professional" for assistance,ROTFLMA sad but  true story bro. ;D ;D ;D

Bloody hell!  You dredge up something 14 days old, from 5 pages ago, and place it totally out of context.  Stalking much, skippy?

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:20pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 6th, 2014 at 3:16pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 21st, 2014 at 3:56pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 20th, 2014 at 7:15pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 20th, 2014 at 7:02pm: Wow. It must be a more difficult concept to grasp. If you dish out personal abuse to other members and either the mods notice or it's brought to our attention, be prepared to take a holiday. There's no point whinging about it - just don't do it. Huh? Quote: IGNORE aussie.  He is so completely techno stupid that he actually PAID a guru to show him how to capture a screenshot. Lawyers bootlace. Brain dead. Needs a licence to run a computer in this day and age.  Grin Grin Grin Brought to the attention of freediver and the GMs last evening......and..............here the Poster is.............still stalking this evening. Annie????? Where is the abuse? You freely admit to not being smart enough to manage a screen shot and paying a " professional" for assistance,ROTFLMA sad but  true story bro. ;D ;D ;D Bloody hell!  You dredge up something 14 days old, from 5 pages ago, and place it totally out of context.  Stalking much, skippy?

did you or did you not pay someone to do a screen shot?
As for stalking  ::) in your dreams, you are not my type not that there's anything wrong with that if you want to swing that way Aussie.  ::)

Hopefully one of the Mods read the DD thread and took note of the stalking there,

Ho, ho, and ho. The other Forum Tag Team.  Who is next up to bat?

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:43pm:

Ho, ho, and ho. The other Forum Tag Team.  Who is next up to bat?

Are you sick of stalking Nef and BO?

skippy. wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2014 at 3:43pm: Ho, ho, and ho. The other Forum Tag Team.  Who is next up to bat? Are you sick of stalking Nef and BO?

You "still beating your wife?"

Link.

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:10pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 6th, 2014 at 4:05pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2014 at 3:43pm: Ho, ho, and ho. The other Forum Tag Team.  Who is next up to bat? Are you sick of stalking Nef and BO? You "still beating your wife?" Link.

Quote . Who are the global mods now?

Freediver, Mozzoak, Andrei Hicks, Gandalf, Annia Anthrax...and Perceptions Now but he seems to have sort of resigned.

skippy. wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2014 at 3:43pm: Ho, ho, and ho. The other Forum Tag Team.  Who is next up to bat? Are you sick of stalking Nef and BO?

skip being a mod and all that it comes with responsibilities I guess... I wouldnt know....

can you give me some idea of what a STALKER is to a mod?....

what makes one person a STALKER... and  should I say

the other person the  victim...

what makes a  STALKER and  what do they do to represent being called a STALKER.

you have pointed out nef and BO are .. victims..

and aussie is the STALKER....


how do you evaluate that???.....

I am interested

wiki
Stalking is unwanted or obsessive attention by an individual or group toward another person. Stalking behaviors are related to


which person is doing the UNWANTED

the STALKER or the victim who may answer back...are they the problem?

I am trying to get around........how one sees  and deals with it...

my version of a STALKER doesnt seem to tally with others..

Peace on earth and goodwill to all dudes and dudesses!

Be good now. Forgetting is the first step to forgiveness. Should be easy for the older ones among you.   ;)

Muso (ex member) wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:24am:

Peace on earth and goodwill to all dudes and dudesses! Be good now. Forgetting is the first step to forgiveness. Should be easy for the older ones among you.   ;)

You are missed, wise one. I hope all is well and that you have a safe and happy holiday season.

Muso (ex member) wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:24am:

Peace on earth and goodwill to all dudes and dudesses! Be good now. Forgetting is the first step to forgiveness. Should be easy for the older ones among you.   ;)

was that a dig muso??? come on fez up...I wont ban you...

good will to you and your loved ones muso... I agree you are more than missed... :'( :'(

maybe you will feel sorry for us and return... :)

cods wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 6:29am:

skippy. wrote on Dec 6th, 2014 at 4:05pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2014 at 3:43pm: Ho, ho, and ho. The other Forum Tag Team.  Who is next up to bat? Are you sick of stalking Nef and BO? skip being a mod and all that it comes with responsibilities I guess... I wouldnt know.... can you give me some idea of what a STALKER is to a mod?.... what makes one person a STALKER... and  should I say the other person the  victim... what makes a  STALKER and  what do they do to represent being called a STALKER. you have pointed out nef and BO are .. victims.. and aussie is the STALKER.... how do you evaluate that???..... I am interested wiki Stalking is unwanted or obsessive attention by an individual or group toward another person. Stalking behaviors are related to which person is doing the UNWANTED the STALKER or the victim who may answer back...are they the problem? I am trying to get around........how one sees  and deals with it... my version of a STALKER doesnt seem to tally with others..

Unwanted and obsessive attention is what Aussie gives BO and Nef , that's why he is a stalker
Aussie called me a stalker for daring to quote a fourteen day old post, I'll let people more sane than Aussie be the judge of that. ::)

No doubt you'll have the link to where I said you were a stalker, skippy.  So....let's have the link so people can make that call.

As for the others you refer to, you will find that they each have made many posts almost all of which I have totally ignored.

skippy. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 10:37am:

Unwanted and obsessive attention is what Aussie gives BO and Nef , that's why he is a stalker Aussie called me a stalker for daring to quote a fourteen day old post, I'll let people more sane than Aussie be the judge of that.

I know what you call a stalker skippy.. I was wondering what it is that a moderator calls it.. or is told it is...

I presume you have banned aussie numerous times over there then.. that must give you and the girls huge satisfaction...

I havent seen what I call STALKING from aussie over here... so cannot comment on something i know nothing about....

but I would like to know is.... is STALKING a b anning offence..if so what is considered  STALKING...

you obviously have a STALKING rule on PA.. but this is ozpol.. and I am thinking is there much difference in the rules???...

aussie thought your post out of context was maybe a bit extreme maybe?  I dunno...I did wonder why you brought it up...after so long.. but
was it STALKING?????...   its hard to say.. as you had both had tit for tat a couple of pages back...so I dont think i would call that STALKING...

what I call STALKING is someone coming in out of the blue.. just to TARGET a person...the thread could be weeks old.. and they havent said a word.. then bang.. out with the personal swipe...

is that STALKING...

I think we need to get the wording right..

if someone haunted your space in the real world it would be called STALKING.....is it the same here thats all I am asking..

Aussie wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

No doubt you'll have the link to where I said you were a stalker, skippy.  So....let's have the link so people can make that call. As for the others you refer to, you will find that they each have made many posts almost all of which I have totally ignored.

thats what I am getting at... who starts the what???..I dont think its fair to discuss what goes on somewhere else.. but its like banging ones head on the wall...you dont strike me a s a stalker aussie...a bit of a pain sometimes...but stalking is over the top.....

trouble is it sounds like you defend yourself..

and thats a No No with some people..

Aussie wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

No doubt you'll have the link to where I said you were a stalker, skippy.  So....let's have the link so people can make that call.

No doubt I will. Alzheimer's is you friend Aussie. ::) I'm sure people with comprehension skills will make a call.

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Bloody hell!  You dredge up something 14 days old, from 5 pages ago, and place it totally out of context.  Stalking much, skippy?

skippy. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 10:59am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 7th, 2014 at 10:47am: No doubt you'll have the link to where I said you were a stalker, skippy.  So....let's have the link so people can make that call. No doubt I will. Alzheimer's is you friend Aussie. ::) I'm sure people with comprehension skills will make a call. Quote: Bloody hell!  You dredge up something 14 days old, from 5 pages ago, and place it totally out of context.  Stalking much, skippy?

You are way out of your depth here son.   Perhaps your skills and talents equip you much better elsewhere.

Where is the link to back this up, skippy, or were you grossly exaggerating yet again?  Your call.


Quote:

Aussie called me a stalker..

Where skippy, did I do that?

Aussie wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:04pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 7th, 2014 at 10:59am: Aussie wrote on Dec 7th, 2014 at 10:47am: No doubt you'll have the link to where I said you were a stalker, skippy.  So....let's have the link so people can make that call. No doubt I will. Alzheimer's is you friend Aussie. ::) I'm sure people with comprehension skills will make a call. Quote: Bloody hell!  You dredge up something 14 days old, from 5 pages ago, and place it totally out of context.  Stalking much, skippy? You are way out of your depth here son.   Perhaps your skills and talents equip you much better elsewhere. Where is the link to back this up, skippy, or were you grossly exaggerating yet again?  Your call. [quote]Aussie called me a stalker..

Where skippy, did I do that?
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A total lying fool would try to pretend that they had not said exactly that to me in the post I have provided. The posters here  can see just how dishonest you are.

Where is the link to this skippy?


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Aussie called me a stalker...

Show us all, son.  No bluster, no bullshit, no custard tap dancing, no prevarication, no word games....where did I say that?  Link please? 

Or, perhaps you will do much better by simply saying that you were wrong, and that I did not call you stalker.  Hmmmm?

Quote:

Bloody hell!  You dredge up something 14 days old, from 5 pages ago, and place it totally out of context.  Stalking much, skippy?

What do other posters here think Aussie means by this post? Aussie is such a liar how writes things and pretends they have different meanings. Why did Aussie ask me if I was stalking him if he didn't mean it?

skippy. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:28pm:

Quote: Bloody hell!  You dredge up something 14 days old, from 5 pages ago, and place it totally out of context.  Stalking much, skippy? What do other posters here think Aussie means by this post? Aussie is such a liar how writes things and pretends they have different meanings. Why did Aussie ask me if I was stalking him if he didn't mean it?

Come come, son.  I know what I asked.  Everyone can see it.  What I want is the link to where:


Quote:

Aussie called me a stalker...

Link please.

Why did Aussie insinuate I was stalking him, And then pretend he didn't mean it? In fact he stated, and I quote
" stalking much, Skippy?" With a question mark.

skippy. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:40pm:

Why did Aussie ask if I was stalking him, And then pretend he didn't mean it?

We can have that discussion later, son.  What everyone wants to see is not you backpedaling at a zillion miles an hour.  That's really embarrassing enough for you.  All we want is the link to where:


Quote:

Aussie called me a stalker...

(You do have the link to that, don't you son?)

Link please?

skippy. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:40pm:

Why did Aussie insinuate I was stalking him, And then pretend he didn't mean it? In fact he stated, and I quote " stalking much, Skippy?" With a question mark.

Bump

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1416365618/75

The link   :o

I'm not playing your little games  here anymore. The mods here don't want to have to keep cleaning up your off topic excrement from this forum. I will start a  thread at the other forum. ;D

I think he was on automatic Skippy-- he hear's it so much, but instead uttered in his direction!!! Just slip of the tongue.


( sorry Aussie- [smiley=dankk2.gif] joke)

skippy. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:47pm:

I'm not playing your little games  here anymore. The mods here don't want to have to keep cleaning up your off topic excrement from this forum. I will start a  thread at the other forum. ;D

Probably a very good idea son.  As I said earlier, you have skills and talents suited better elsewhere, especially where you are the Admin., where the majority are your flying monkeys and where you have me under threat of ban if I have the temerity to defend myself....and where you know I will not post under existing circumstances.

Off you scarper, skippy.  Toodleoo.

Aussie whimpered-
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where you have me under threat of ban if I have the temerity to defend myself....and where you know I will not post under existing circumstances.

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Nice to see you lot can stick to the topic (whatever that is) and not let little distractions like Muso's return derail the thread.

freediver wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:

Nice to see you lot can stick to the topic (whatever that is) and not let little distractions like Muso's return derail the thread.

If only that were true, as opposed to a brief door stop.

Aussie wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 7:43pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2014 at 7:40pm: Nice to see you lot can stick to the topic (whatever that is) and not let little distractions like Muso's return derail the thread. If only that were true, as opposed to a brief door stop.

I thought that was nice of FD to pop in and mop up the blood so to speak...well at least he didnt pour any oil on the feud...but he did at least mention muso.. so sweet...and its good that he doesnt take sides isnt it?

Here's an idea.
How about a weeks ban for anybody who even vaguely references anything that has happened or anybody who has ever posted on PA?

It's a shithole. Leave it and its sh!t where it is - in the cyber bowels of this site.

Life_goes_on wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:53pm:

Here's an idea. How about a weeks ban for anybody who even vaguely references anything that has happened or anybody who has ever posted on PA?

Sounds like an idea!

perceptions_now wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 10:43pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Dec 7th, 2014 at 9:53pm: Here's an idea. How about a weeks ban for anybody who even vaguely references anything that has happened or anybody who has ever posted on PA? Sounds like an idea!

it would take all the huff and puff out of skippy wouldnt it though. ::) ::) ::)

Life_goes_on wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:53pm:

Here's an idea. How about a weeks ban for anybody who even vaguely references anything that has happened or anybody who has ever posted on PA? It's a shithole. Leave it and its sh!t where it is - in the cyber bowels of this site.

We could do a trade. How about the same ban apply to those who swear?

At the moment I can't see much difference between Ozpolitic and PA.

mantra wrote on Dec 8^th, 2014 at 7:59am:

Life_goes_on wrote on Dec 7th, 2014 at 9:53pm: Here's an idea. How about a weeks ban for anybody who even vaguely references anything that has happened or anybody who has ever posted on PA? It's a shithole. Leave it and its sh!t where it is - in the cyber bowels of this site. We could do a trade. How about the same ban apply to those who swear? At the moment I can't see much difference between Ozpolitic and PA.

now thats a broad statement mantra...

being a member of both.....are you saying ozpol is now as bad as PA.. or viceversa?....PA is now as bad as ozpol..???

is swearing allowed on PA?...

what about all the name calling???...

would that get a ban???>..

im not sure what it takes to get banned really...and is banning the ultimate punishment....because from what I see it doesnt stop any of the crap they get banned for...well not for long anyway..

maybe we need a naughty corner... where someone can be sent for all to see...maybe we can say what we like to them and they cant answer back...

now that would be interesting...a bit cruel though... ;D ;D ;D

cods wrote on Dec 8^th, 2014 at 7:12am:

perceptions_now wrote on Dec 7th, 2014 at 10:43pm: Life_goes_on wrote on Dec 7th, 2014 at 9:53pm: Here's an idea. How about a weeks ban for anybody who even vaguely references anything that has happened or anybody who has ever posted on PA? Sounds like an idea! it would take all the huff and puff out of skippy wouldnt it though. ::) ::) ::)

Moderators please ask cods to stop stalking me ::)

skippy. wrote on Dec 8^th, 2014 at 3:54pm:

Moderators please ask cods to stop stalking me

Leave cods alone you bully!!

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 8^th, 2014 at 3:57pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 3:54pm: Moderators please ask cods to stop stalking me Leave cods alone you bully!!

STALKING there goes that word again.. skippy must have nightmares about it..

he needs to have his diaper changed...

he doesnt like anyone standing up to him.. he gets all abusive and  petty..he is used to people siding with him..like the little bullyboy he is and always has been.

petty..