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Title: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Yadda on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 1:41pm

Google;
10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim Immigrants

Google;
BBC covers up the true nature of the Muslim rape-gangs

Google;
Muslims Sexually Enslaving Children: A Global Phenomenon

Google;
Sharifi's lawyers claimed that due to cultural differences he was confused

Google;
The rapist from Afghanistan said 'cultural differences' contributed to his sex attack

Google;
Islamic gangs have been allowed to drug rape, torture, and sell white girls as young as 11 into sex slavery for other Muslim men to abuse.

Google;
Muslim Cleric: If Women Don't Want to Get Raped

Google;
Devout Islamic Mullah Violently Rapes a 10-Year-old Muslim Girl in Mosque, Family Plans to Honor kill the little girl

Google;
Muslims rape over 300 Swedish children

Google;
Rape epidemic in Norway caused by Muslim immigration

+++

ISLAM is an abomination.

Yet 'the moslem' is enthralled by ISLAM.

And at every opportunity 'the moslem' defends and promotes ISLAM [....as something virtuous].

Dictionary;
abomination = = a cause of disgust or hatred. a feeling of hatred.

Deuteronomy 12:29
When the LORD thy God shall cut off the nations from before thee, whither thou goest to possess them, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their land;
30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.
31 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.
32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Quote:

Use children as troops, says cleric
January 18, 2007
SYDNEY'S most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs and urging children to die for Allah.
Firebrand Sheik Feiz Mohammed, head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool [Australia], delivered the hateful rants on a collection of DVDs called the Death Series being sold in Australia and overseas.
.........Sheik Feiz says in the video.
"We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
An Australian citizen born in Sydney who has spent the past year living in Lebanon, Sheik Feiz was exposed this week in a British documentary Undercover Mosque.
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).

"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."

......Sheik Feiz - who just two weeks ago said he felt like an "alien" in his own country - leads about 4000 followers through his Global Islamic Youth Centre in Sydney's southwest.
He also accused Australian authorities of being over-zealous in their approach to clerics like him.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."
ISLAMIC religious scholar, Sayyid Qutb

MURDER FOR ALLAH's CAUSE.....

"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg

Quote:

"We love death.
The US loves life.
That is the difference between us two."

- Osama bin Laden, November 2001

Quote:

"The Jews love life, .....they love life and we love death."

Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah

Quote:

".....On the one hand, Israeli culture values life in all its aspects, including the sanctity of the life of others. Their soldiers take risks to spare civilians on the other side, unprecedented in the history of warfare. Aware of Israeli inhibitions, Jihadi groups use their own people as human shields in fighting the Israelis.
Over the last few years, these Jihadi groups have developed a full-blown death cult in which they raise their children to want to die killing others."

Quote:

"We have discovered how to hit the Jews where they are the most vulnerable. The Jews love life, so that is what we shall take away from them. We are going to win, because they love life and we love death."

Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Yadda on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 1:45pm

brian ross, on moslems and the moslem community...

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 5:39pm:

I merely recognise that it is their right to create and unfortunately impose those punishments. It is terrible but I also recognise

I have no right or ability to criticise them.

I am neither a member of their religion or a citizen of any of those nations.

We shouldn't criticise ISLAM nor 'the moslem'.

It just isn't 'right' to do that ! :P

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Stratos on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 1:53pm

What is your source for the statistics Yadda?

The only sites I found where it was quoted were either anti-muslim sites or white supremacist ones I didn't click on.

The ones I checked out did not have any citations to data.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by gandalf on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 2:08pm

I'm pretty sure those Norway stats have been thoroughly debunked - I'll do a bit of digging

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by John Smith on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 2:13pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 1:41pm:

10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim Immigrants

;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D

that anyone would believe such crap says a lot :D :D :D

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 3:01pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 1:41pm:

Google;
10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim Immigrants

And the other 90% are raped by native Norwegians? :-/

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by John Smith on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 3:08pm

actually, I wouldn't be surprised if the Norweigns did claim 10% of their women are raped by immigrants,

the Norweigns blame everything that goes wrong on immigrants :D :D :D

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Yadda on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 3:15pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 2:08pm:

I'm pretty sure those Norway stats have been thoroughly debunked - I'll do a bit of digging

YT...
NORWEGIAN RAPE VICTIM;

Quote:

"He said, that he had the right to do exactly as he wanted to a woman."
"Why ?"
"Because that is how it was in his religion."

from...
10% of Norwegian Women Raped by Muslim Invaders, Half Before They were 18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppYXh6yyH9g

Google,
"rape jihad"

THE DISRESPECTFUL AND CONFRONTATIONAL ATTITUDE SHOWN BY MOSLEMS, IN AUSTRALIA, TOWARDS WOMEN WHO DO NOT CONFORM TO THE EXPECTATIONS OF 'THE MOSLEM'.....

Australian journalist Latika Bourke, was told by 'minders', when she visited an Australian mosque for a pre-arranged interview;

Google;
Latika Bourke, "You need to cover up, you mutt"

Google;
bilal skaf, rape, women uncovered, no right to say no

Google;
muslim rape, "they had no right to say no"

Quote:

"....attacks on girls as young as 13.... they had no right to say no. They were not covering their face or wearing a headscarf, and therefore, the rapist proclaimed:
...I’m not doing anything wrong."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/readarticle.asp?ID=20535&p=1
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/11/27/1069825922999.html
from my archive, the link is old

Quote:

"....Islam gives an open license to Muslim men to have sexual intercourse with women as long as these women are....living in an infidel country."

By Abul Kasem
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/abulkazem/SexualityinIslam.htm
from my archive, the link is old

Quote:

"......A Muslim man commits rape if and only if he has sex with a Muslim woman....Having forced sex with an infidel woman does not at all constitute rape, Islamically speaking."

By Abul Kasem
http://islam-watch.org/AbulKasem/MeatImam.htm
from my archive, the link is oldiMORE......

Abhorrent ISLAMIC 'cultural influences' [rape and violence against those who are not moslems] creep into Western host nations, largely because these abhorrent 'cultural influences' are not being openly challenged and confronted, by the host nations.....

Google;
Female Genital Mutilation in the West: A Creeping Crime Against Humanity

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Yadda on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 3:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 3:01pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 1:41pm:

Google;
10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim Immigrants

And the other 90% are raped by native Norwegians? :-/

Ha ha, .....it is to laugh. >:(

Isn't that right, greggerypeccary ?

Lets all have a big laugh up.

We mustn't scrutinise OR, criticise 'the moslem' now, must we!!!!

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Stratos on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 3:30pm

Yadda, what study is this referring to? I haven't found it.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 3:45pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 3:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 3:01pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 1:41pm:

Google;
10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim Immigrants

And the other 90% are raped by native Norwegians? :-/

Ha ha, .....it is to laugh. >:(

Isn't that right, greggerypeccary ?

Lets all have a big laugh up.

We mustn't scrutinise OR, criticise 'the moslem' now, must we!!!!

We must scrutinise and criticise all rapists, no matter what religion they are.

I'm not sure why you want to give some of them a free pass.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by gandalf on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 3:50pm

OK folks, hold on to your hats, cause this one is a real doosy. This really is the most hilarious case of extrapolation and leaps of logic.

10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim Immigrants

Or - to put it another way, 100% of all women who have been raped in Norway - raped by muslims. Or, over 500 thousand Norwegian women have been raped by muslims. You see, its the same thing.

So lets look at the totally sound logic that leads to this conclusion:

1. White Resister lays out the case with his article entitled "10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim Invaders, Half Before They were 18". He cites a survey of over 2000 women that finds that 9.4% of them were victims of rape. He doesn't actually cite any evidence himself that suggests 100% of these women were raped by muslim immigrants, but he prefaced the article by linking a Norwegian documentary with the words " 100% of rapes are committed by Muslim immigrants."

2. So we turn now to the video that allegedly proves that 100% of all raped women in Norway were raped by muslim immigrants:
http://www.dailystormer.com/100-of-rapes-in-norway-committed-by-muslim-immigrants/

The evidence is introduced by the show's presenters:
"For the last three years police in Oslo have investigated 41 assault rapes" - and goes on to say that 100% of these have indeed been committed by immigrants.

Hmmmmm....

so... we have a study that shows that 10% of all Norwegian women have been the victim of rape. Some dufus then dug up a completely unrelated report about a particular type of rape in Oslo (Not even nation-wide) - which relates to a grand-total of 41 rapes over 3 years - and extrapolates the fact that 100% of those rapes were from non-specified "immigrants" - to make the case that 100% of all female rape victims across Norway were raped by muslims.

Now, you'd be forgiven for thinking this sounds all too familiar - because you'd be right, an eerily similar stunt was pulled a few years before:

Quote:

Two out of three charged with rape in Norway's capital
are non-western immigrants. What is overlooked is the more
relevant factor, that of being a Muslim. If second-generation
Muslims (sons of immigrants) and "unknown" were included,
the positive correlation statistics would be even higher.
While about 80% of rape victims are native Norwegian women,
estimates are that over 80% of rapists are Muslim men.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/osint/conversations/topics/135631

So, to the actual "evidence" - based on this article:

Quote:

Two out of three charged with rape in Norway's capital are immigrants
with a non-western background according to a police study. The number
of rape cases is also rising steadily.

The study is the first where the crime statistics have been analyzed
according to ethnic origin. Of the 111 charged with rape in Oslo last
year, 72 were of non-western ethnic origin, 25 are classified as
Norwegian or western and 14 are listed as unknown.Rape charges in the
capital are spiraling upwards, 40 percent higher from 1999 to 2000
and up 13 percent so far this year.Nine out of ten cases do not make
it to prosecution, most of them because police do not believe the
evidence is sufficient to reach a conviction.

Police Inspector Gunnar Larsen of Oslo's Vice, Robbery and Violent
crime division says the statistics are surprising - the rising number
of rape cases and the link to ethnic background are both clear
trends. But Larsen does not want to speculate on the reasons behind
the developments. While 65 percent of those charged with rape are
classed as coming from a non-western background, this segment makes
up only 14.3 percent of Oslo's population. Norwegian women were the
victims in 80 percent of the cases, with 20 percent being women of
foreign background.Larsen said that since this was the initial study
examining ethnic make-up there were no existing figures to put the
numbers into context. "Meanwhile, it is our general experience that
this is an increasing tendency. We note this by the number of time we
need to use interpreters in the course of an investigation," Larsen
said.

- from a sample size of 111 rape cases in which someone was charged
- 9 out of 10 of the charges did not make court due to lack of evidence
- the figure is 65% of unspecified "non westerners" (not 80%)

thus we can conclude that the claim that 80% of all rapes in Oslo are committed by muslims comes from the fact that in one year (year 2000), around 6 rape cases involving non-westerners made it to court.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Karnal on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 4:20pm

Yes, G, but I don’t think that’s what Y meant you to find out when he asked you to Google 10% of Norwegian women have been raped by Moslems.

I think he wanted you to Google something else, but what?

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Karnal on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 4:22pm

Stratos wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 1:53pm:

The only sites I found where it was quoted were either anti-muslim sites or white supremacist ones .

Ah.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by John Smith on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 4:55pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 4:20pm:

I think he wanted you to Google something else, but what?

of course not ... google is Ḥalāl isn't it?

you just can't trust it Karnal ....

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Honky on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 5:03pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt7mcomgBbo

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Rocketanski on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 5:05pm

The Khans, a gang of Pakistani rapists from Ashfield, sought to use the religion of Islam as a defence for their crimes. The legal fraternity, desperate to protect the myfh of multi-culturalism, wouldn't allow it. Another case of dangerous denial.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by gandalf on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 5:06pm

Yadda, do you stand by your claim that 100% of female Norwegian rape victims were raped by muslims - based on the police report that 41 cases of assault rape in Oslo over a period of 3 years were from immigrant backgrounds?

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Karnal on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 6:05pm

Rocketanski wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 5:05pm:

Gee, Homo, that’s interesting. You’re saying those Pakis could have just used the old religious legal defence and got off with a warning, but their spineless softcock lawyers wouldn’t allow it and made them plead guilty?

There you go. That’s grounds for an appeal right there.

Those poor boys were just following orders (under the religious defence law). They should be released immediately.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Karnal on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 6:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 5:06pm:

Not exactly. Yadda will give you a sardonic reply about Muslims being honest, including the ISIL guys holding the human head photo for maximum impact, or the crazy shiek with the big forehead. He’ll follow this up with the quotes he already posted, and he’ll distract you by telling you to Google something else.

That’s after he tells me to go to hell for being dishonest and insincere.

Let’s wait and see, shall we?

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by gandalf on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 7:12pm

I actually do believe he is incapable of admitting he was mistaken. But I hope he proves me wrong.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Rocketanski on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 7:41pm

Indeed Karnal, it is a big cospiracy. Muslims aren't allowed to reveal the truth about Islam to kaffirs. It might just bring about baseless islamophobia.
I blame do-gooders.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Soren on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 7:45pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 6:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 5:06pm:

Muslim perpetrators are stunningly over-represented. Not because they are a 'minority (other minorities are not similarly overrepresented) but because they are... er.... you know.... how to say it?.... are of the same faith community.

There is a very significant Danish minority in Sweden and inexplicably they are not over-represented in the rape stats. They do not even show up. Lutherans for you, what?

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Karnal on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 9:23pm

Soren wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 7:45pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 6:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 5:06pm:

We don’t show up in those stats either, old boy.

Maybe that’s what they call love.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Yadda on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 9:27pm

10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim Immigrants

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 5:06pm:

Yadda, do you stand by your claim that 100% of female Norwegian rape victims were raped by muslims.....?

gandalf,

That statistic does seem incredible [un-believable] doesn't it !

Quote:

Norway
See also: Immigration to Norway § Crime and Crime in Norway

The overall probability that a person living in Norway would be convicted for a felony (no: forbrytelse) was increased by about 0.5 percentage points for the immigrant compared to non-immigrant populations for felonies committed in the years 2001-2004. The incidence was especially high among immigrants from Kosovo, Morocco, Somalia, Iraq, Iran and Chile, and reached more than 2% in all these groups. In comparison, the incidence in the non-immigrant population was about 0.7%.[20]

Immigrants are also overrepresented in sexual crime statistics. In a news report in 2010, a spokesperson for the Oslo Police Department stated that every case of assault rapes in Oslo in the years 2007, 2008 and 2009 was committed by a non-Western immigrant.[21] This picture has later been nuanced, as only perpetrators in the solved cases were counted, and 4 of the victims in the 16 unsolved cases described the perpetrator as being of Norwegian ethnicity.[22]

The report shows that, of 131 individuals charged with the 152 rapes in which the perpetrator could be identified, 45.8% were of African, Middle Eastern or Asian origin while 54.2% were of Norwegian, other European or American origin. In the cases of "assault rape", i.e. rape aggravated by physical violence, a category that included 6 of the 152 cases and 5 of the 131 identified individuals, the 5 identified individuals were of African, Middle Eastern or Asian origin. In the cases of assault rape where the individual responsible was not identified and the police relied on the description provided by the victim, "8 of the perpetrators were African / dark-skinned appearance, 4 were Western / light / Nordic and 4 had an Asian appearance".[23]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime

Quote:

Raped in Oslo

From the desk of Fjordman on Wed, 2006-12-13 08:23

The number of rapes in the Norwegian capital Oslo is six times as high as in New York City. I’ve written about the issue of rape and Muslim immigration so many times that I am, quite frankly, a bit tired of the subject. But as we all know, problems don’t disappear just because you are tired of talking about them, so here goes.

There has been an explosive increase in the number of rape charges in the city of Oslo, but both the media and the authorities consistently refuse to tell us why.

They did do so, however, in 2001, when two out of Norway's three largest newspapers, Aftenposten and Dagbladet, reported that most of these rape charges involve an immigrant perp, which again mostly means Muslims.

Both newspapers have since then conveniently “forgotten” about this, and have never connected the issue to Muslim immigration although the number of rape charges has continued to rise to historic levels. They are thus at best guilty of extreme incompetence, since their former articles about this issue are still available online.

Norway’s Minister of Justice from 2001 to 2005, Odd Einar Dørum, mentioned the problem in 2001 but has later gone quiet about the issue. The reported number of rapes in Oslo is now six – 6! – times as high per capita as in New York City, yet the media keeps warning against Islamophobia......

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1754

gandalf,

What seems undeniable ['incredible' claims about the 'un-believable' frequency of moslem sex crimes, notwithstanding], is that moslems do seem to have a wildly disproportional representation as sexual criminals and sexual predators, within every Western host nation.

I think that we [NOT you gandalf! ....but non-moslems!] should be lobbying to have criminologists within Western nation release information [statistics] which describe the demographics of those who are the perpetrators of serious crimes, including sex crimes.

Why have governments [led by people like Tony Abbott, David Cameron, Barrack Obama, Tony Blair and George Bush [II], etc] been so reluctant to publicise such information ?

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Karnal on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 9:33pm

There’s your answer, G. Y wants a lobby group to ask for the right information.

That’s the best you’re going to get.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Yadda on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 9:45pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 9:33pm:

There’s your answer, G.

Y wants ~~a lobby group~~ to ask for the right information.

That’s the best you’re going to get.

Too right!

Quote:

".......There has been an explosive increase in the number of rape charges in the city of Oslo, but both the media and the authorities consistently refuse to tell us why......."

Google

QUESTION;
What or who, has been the cause of the observable [BUT 'UNEXPLAINED'] "explosive increase in the number of rape charges in the city of Oslo" ??????

Doesn't anyone want to know ?

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Yadda on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 9:54pm

Like Karnal, .....I BLAME ~~MOSLEMS~~ ISLAM.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Yadda on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 10:17pm

NORWEGIAN NEWS SERVICE;
".......In Oslo all sexual assaults involving rape in the past year has been committed by males of non-western background - this was the conclusion of a police report published today."

from.....
Multikulti. All Rapes in Norway Done By Muslims
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt7mcomgBbo

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 10:27pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 10:17pm:

NORWEGIAN NEWS SERVICE;
".......In Oslo ]all sexual assaults involving rape in the past year has been committed by males of non-western background - this was the conclusion of a police report published today."

Source?

Of course "non-Western" doesn't automatically equate to Muslim, you realise, Y? ::)

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Yadda on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 10:39pm

"3,000 wanted in Oslo, over whom we have no control, and who commit more crime."

Who, is 'wanted' ???

Who are these people ?

Who is 'this criminal', whose identifying description must not be spoken ?

Norway: The Nordic Paradise Of Criminals And Rapists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlZzEAmiUqc

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by freediver on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 8:28am

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 3:50pm:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/osint/conversations/topics/135631

So, to the actual "evidence" - based on this article:

[quote]Two out of three charged with rape in Norway's capital are immigrants
with a non-western background according to a police study. The number
of rape cases is also rising steadily.

The study is the first where the crime statistics have been analyzed
according to ethnic origin. Of the 111 charged with rape in Oslo last
year, 72 were of non-western ethnic origin, 25 are classified as
Norwegian or western and 14 are listed as unknown.Rape charges in the
capital are spiraling upwards, 40 percent higher from 1999 to 2000
and up 13 percent so far this year.Nine out of ten cases do not make
it to prosecution, most of them because police do not believe the
evidence is sufficient to reach a conviction.

Police Inspector Gunnar Larsen of Oslo's Vice, Robbery and Violent
crime division says the statistics are surprising - the rising number
of rape cases and the link to ethnic background are both clear
trends. But Larsen does not want to speculate on the reasons behind
the developments. While 65 percent of those charged with rape are
classed as coming from a non-western background, this segment makes
up only 14.3 percent of Oslo's population. Norwegian women were the
victims in 80 percent of the cases, with 20 percent being women of
foreign background.Larsen said that since this was the initial study
examining ethnic make-up there were no existing figures to put the
numbers into context. "Meanwhile, it is our general experience that
this is an increasing tendency. We note this by the number of time we
need to use interpreters in the course of an investigation," Larsen
said.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Sprintcyclist on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:25am

however you play with the stats, muslims are noncompatible with the west

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by gandalf on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:53am

freediver wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 8:28am:

Gandalf what do you think is a more reasonable estimate?

how about the estimate that says that the claim that 100% of all raped Norwegian women (~10%) were raped by muslims based on a fallacious extrapolation of two completely unrelated sets of data is complete full of crap?

As to the actual figures, well unlike stormfront and Yadda, I have this strange urge to see the actual relevant data before attempting such an estimate.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by freediver on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 10:17am

Here's a few actual figures someone dug up earlier:

freediver wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 8:28am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 3:50pm:

Gandalf what do you think is a more reasonable estimate?[/quote]

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by gandalf on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 10:36am

I think you're missing the point here FD - you don't see anything wrong with the title of this thread?

The figures you seem to desperate to draw conclusions about muslims relate to two things:

1. a study that indicates 9.4% of all Norwegian women have been raped (no mention by whom)
2. a police report about the investigation of 41 assault rape cases in Oslo over a three year period - all of whom were committed by non-western immigrants (I'll go out on a limb and suggest that there were many times more total rapes committed in Oslo over the same period).

So what you are asking is for me to make an estimate about muslim rape rates in Norway - based on nothing else but 41 cases of one particular category of rape in just one city (and unquestionably only a tiny fraction of all rapes) in which we don't even know how many of whom were committed by muslims.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by freediver on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:00am

Quote:

a police report about the investigation of 41 assault rape cases in Oslo over a three year period - all of whom were committed by non-western immigrants (I'll go out on a limb and suggest that there were many times more total rapes committed in Oslo over the same period

Are you suggesting that rapes by Muslims are more likely to get reported and convicted? Or are you arguing the figure is higher than 10%

Quote:

So what you are asking is for me to make an estimate about muslim rape rates in Norway - based on nothing else but 41 cases of one particular category of rape in just one city (and unquestionably only a tiny fraction of all rapes) in which we don't even know how many of whom were committed by muslims.

I'm sure it's just a tiny minority.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by gandalf on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:27am

Firstly FD, you seem to not understand what this 10% figure relates to - its the total number of women in Norway who have been raped - nothing to do with muslim rapes.

freediver wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:00am:

Are you suggesting that rapes by Muslims are more likely to get reported and convicted?

How could I when there is no evidence about it? No one mentions muslims except stormfront, Yadda - and now it seems you. Certainly the Oslo police report in question does not specify muslims. There is no evidence anywhere in this thread about the rates of reported and convicted rapes committed by muslims. If you have any, by all means share it.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Stratos on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 1:18pm

freediver wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:00am:

I'm sure it's just a tiny minority.

Why?

I don't know how anyone can make any real assertions based on the data that has currently been presented.

Only thing I have been shown is that Yadda is once again telling fibs, or at the very least not checking his sources.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Karnal on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 2:47pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 10:36am:

No no, you have another option: blame Islam.

Much easier.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Karnal on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 2:50pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:27am:

Are you suggesting that rapes by Muslims are more likely to get reported and convicted?

FD has evidence of rapes by "non Western" people.

And we know what he thinks of them.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 2:51pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 3:08pm:

actually, I wouldn't be surprised if the Norweigns did claim 10% of their women are raped by immigrants,

the Norweigns blame everything that goes wrong on immigrants :D :D :D

I wouldn't be surprised if it was 10% of Norwegian women being blatant sexually harassed by Muslim immigrants, rather than the accusation of rape. But then again, in Australia, you can get accused of sexual harassment just by looking in some woman's general direction for a second. So, possibly, it is 10% of Norwegian women being raped/attempted rape by Muslim immigrants.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 7:39pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:25am:

however you play with the stats, muslims are noncompatible with the west

According to whom? You? You've got to be joking, right, Sprint? Your opinion is tainted by your bigotry. ::)

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Soren on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 10:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 7:39pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:25am:

however you play with the stats, muslims are noncompatible with the west

According to whom? You? You've got to be joking, right, Sprint? Your opinion is tainted by your bigotry. ::)

Why? Are YOU any more objective?
Tendentious, dishonest heresy-sniffing fascist that you are.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:34pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 7:39pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:25am:

however you play with the stats, muslims are noncompatible with the west

According to whom? You? You've got to be joking, right, Sprint? Your opinion is tainted by your bigotry. ::)

I have worked around Muslims. Lived around Muslims. And although their numbers are small where I live and work, the greater the number of Muslims and the greater their percentage where they reside, the greater the crime rate.

Announce that you are an atheist in front of them and see how long you last in a peaceful environment.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:50pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 7:39pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:25am:

however you play with the stats, muslims are noncompatible with the west

According to whom? You? You've got to be joking, right, Sprint? Your opinion is tainted by your bigotry. ::)

My experience is the exact reverse. I have served with, in the Army, Muslims, I have studied with Muslims, I have worked with (not "around" them) Muslims, broken bread with them and never had a problem. They've known I'm an Atheist and it has never concerned them.

I don't doubt that someone with your attitudes may well have had problems but I wouldn't be blaming the Muslims for them. ::)

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:52pm

Soren wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 10:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 7:39pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:25am:

however you play with the stats, muslims are noncompatible with the west

According to whom? You? You've got to be joking, right, Sprint? Your opinion is tainted by your bigotry. ::)

Why? Are YOU any more objective?

Yes. I am considerably more objective than you are, Soren with your constant bigotry and religious persecution, which you display only too willingly here.

Quote:

Tendentious, dishonest heresy-sniffing fascist that you are.

Resorting to name-calling, Soren? ::)

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 7:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:50pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 7:39pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:25am:

however you play with the stats, muslims are noncompatible with the west

According to whom? You? You've got to be joking, right, Sprint? Your opinion is tainted by your bigotry. ::)

I have been shot at by Muslims, been harassed at work by co-worker Muslims, hassled by Muslims at university because I had ham sandwiches, nearly had my head lopped off by a Muslim (because I didn't want to convert to his religion). And whilst I can work with a Muslim or two these days who didn't care about religion, I know that they make up like one in two Muslims who aren't passionate about religion to make it a problem for me.

And it was because of my agnostic "attitude" that got me into trouble with that other half of Muslims who do care about religion. And since I have a blonde haired teenaged daughter, she becomes (and became) a target of Muslim men. They (Muslim men) find the idea of white women with blonde hair as nothing but infidel sexual objects, who have no right to resist the advances of Islamic followers. It's the reason why there is an alleged 10% of Norwegian women who have experienced rape by Muslim immigrants.

But, go ahead, and bury your head back into the sand. Preferably the Saharan one.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Stratos on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 7:44pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 7:41pm:

I have been shot at by Muslims, nearly had my head lopped off by a Muslim (because I didn't want to convert to his religion).

:o

Where did this happen?

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 7:46pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 7:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:50pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 7:39pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:25am:

however you play with the stats, muslims are noncompatible with the west

According to whom? You? You've got to be joking, right, Sprint? Your opinion is tainted by your bigotry. ::)

Bullshit.

You never went to university.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 8:55pm

Stratos wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 7:44pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 7:41pm:

I have been shot at by Muslims, nearly had my head lopped off by a Muslim (because I didn't want to convert to his religion).

:o

Where did this happen?

Rockhampton. Musgrave St.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 8:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 7:46pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 7:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:50pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 7:39pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:25am:

however you play with the stats, muslims are noncompatible with the west

According to whom? You? You've got to be joking, right, Sprint? Your opinion is tainted by your bigotry. ::)

Bullshit.

You never went to university.

Haha.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Stratos on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 9:00pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 8:55pm:

Rockhampton. Musgrave St.

Did it make the bully? (yes I'm from Rocky)

I've never heard of such a story

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 9:03pm

Stratos wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 9:00pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 8:55pm:

Rockhampton. Musgrave St.

Did it make the bully? (yes I'm from Rocky)

I've never heard of such a story

It was 1997. I doubt that the police would let it go to the media. It was one of those off the record 'incidences' that people don't want to be known.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Stratos on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 9:05pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 9:03pm:

It was 1997. I doubt that the police would let it go to the media. It was one of those off the record 'incidences' that people don't want to be known.

So you got fired upon by Muslims on the busiest St on the northside and nobody noticed?

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 9:10pm

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 9:16pm

Stratos wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 9:05pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 9:03pm:

It was 1997. I doubt that the police would let it go to the media. It was one of those off the record 'incidences' that people don't want to be known.

So you got fired upon by Muslims on the busiest St on the northside and nobody noticed?

Are you kidding?? The police got prior notice of something happening (or about to happen) and responded. The media got some sort of notice, and were ready with cameras at the aftermath. The police had to do some sort of clean up as well as a deal with whoever it was (witness or media) that were trying to take photos. And I was almost fired from my job the next day, until "someone" (still unknown to me) spoke on my behalf.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Stratos on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 9:20pm

Is there absolutely anything to corroborate what you are saying?

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 9:20pm

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 9:21pm

Stratos wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 9:20pm:

Is there absolutely anything to corroborate what you are saying?

Only witnesses. This was 17 years ago, and there aren't many still around. You would have to ask people who were working in businesses along Musgrave St in 1997.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 12:12am

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 7:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:50pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 7:39pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:25am:

however you play with the stats, muslims are noncompatible with the west

According to whom? You? You've got to be joking, right, Sprint? Your opinion is tainted by your bigotry. ::)

Yes, all Muslims are the same, aren't they? ::)

What I always like seeing is when someone resorts to personal abuse the moment their views are challenged. ::)

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Karnal on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 12:15am

Gee, why didn’t you just convert?

Those Musgrave Street businesses would be no good as eyewitnesses. They’d all be Taqiyya practicing Muslims now.

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 1:11am

Reading and comprehension isn't one of your strong points, is it Brian?

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Yadda on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 9:33am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 12:12am:

Yes, all Muslims are the same, aren't they? ::)

Yes Brian, ALL MOSLEMS are the same.

They are all moslems.

They are all Koran reverencing, Allah worshipping, Mohammed following, moslems.

THE LOGIC, BEHIND REFERRING TO 'THE MOSLEM' AS A MOSLEM......

Yadda said....

Quote:

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."

Today, many moslems - living in Australia - are insisting that we, Australians, must be forced to believe the incredible;

"I'm a moslem, and i worship Allah, and i revere Mohammed his messenger.
And i know that Allah calls for the enslavement and/or murder of all non-moslems - THROUGH JIHAD [religious fighting, when moslems have that 'opportunity'].

But i don't follow that part of my faith.

HONEST!" ;D

Dictionary;
incredible = =
1 impossible to believe.
2 difficult to believe; extraordinary.

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."
ISLAMIC religious scholar, Sayyid Qutb

MURDER FOR ALLAH's CAUSE.....

"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg

Quote:

Oklahoma: Muslim attacks Christian with knife, says Muslims need to “step up” beheadings
Nov 21, 2014 06:31 pm | Robert Spencer

Where did Stepney get the idea that “more Muslims need to step up to the plate” and behead people?

Was it at his local mosque? And what mosque does he go to? Does anyone know? Does anyone care? “Man arrested, accused of slashing man after heated religious conversation,” by Dave Detling, KOCO.com, November 18, 2014

Google

All moslems are the same.

Every moslem is a follower of ISLAM, who is enthralled by the reputed deeds of Mohammed, and has respect of the laws and tenets of his MOSLEM nation.

If he did NOT, then that person would NOT be a moslem.

THE 'UNBELIEVABLE' 'SLANDER' AND THE 'MISREPRESENTATION' OF ISLAM [and of 'the moslem'] - WHICH 'EMANATES' FROM THE INERRANT KORAN.....

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

THE 'UNBELIEVABLE' 'SLANDER' AND THE 'MISREPRESENTATION' OF ISLAM [and of 'the moslem'] - WHICH 'EMANATES' FROM THE LIPS OF ISLAMIC LEADERS....

Quote:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by The Outrage Bus on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 9:38am

Sop lets get back to those stats Yadda. Real or not?

Title: Re: 10% of Norwegian Women Have Been Raped by Muslim I
Post by Karnal on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 12:27pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 9:38am:

Sop lets get back to those stats Yadda. Real or not?

Y's moved on. He wants someone else to lobby the Norwegian government to tell us the real stats.

Until we find out, Y's going to keep blaming Islam.

Problem solved.