Should we end the refugee intake of Muslims, or at least suspend it for some time?

Poll.

Refugees or Illegals?

Your flip flopping on language is confusing. People who flee persecution via boats, are they refugees now, or still illegals in your book.

Ban Muslim immigration altogether.

____ wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 11:57am:

Refugees or Illegals? Your flip flopping on language is confusing. People who flee persecution via boats, are they refugees now, or still illegals in your book.

How about banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to stone gays?

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:13pm:

____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:57am: Refugees or Illegals? Your flip flopping on language is confusing. People who flee persecution via boats, are they refugees now, or still illegals in your book. How about banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to stone gays?

So gays in these countries can't flee persecution.

Are you homophobic?

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:13pm:

____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:57am: Refugees or Illegals? Your flip flopping on language is confusing. People who flee persecution via boats, are they refugees now, or still illegals in your book. How about banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to stone gays?

At least there is some reasoning behind that.  How about also banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to treat gays as 2nd class citizens by not allowing  them to marry?…oh, wait...

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 11:44am:

Should we end the refugee intake of Muslims, or at least suspend it for some time?

No.  Only a small-minded bigot would suggest such a thing.

____ wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:15pm:

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:13pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:57am: Refugees or Illegals? Your flip flopping on language is confusing. People who flee persecution via boats, are they refugees now, or still illegals in your book. How about banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to stone gays? So gays in these countries can't flee persecution. Are you homophobic?

Who said anything about people fleeing?

This whole "hand full of extremists" is a load of crap.

Why can't you people admit it?

what good would that do??????....do people have a tattoo that says I am Muslim....how about paedophiles....can we ban them.. I am sure they wear a tattoo  ::) ::) spelling it all out...

what about banning all Yorkshiremen or maybe people born in Alabama  ::) ::) ::)

why do you tar all with the one brush????????...

rabbitoh08 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:17pm:

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:13pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:57am: Refugees or Illegals? Your flip flopping on language is confusing. People who flee persecution via boats, are they refugees now, or still illegals in your book. How about banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to stone gays? At least there is some reasoning behind that.  How about also banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to treat gays as 2nd class citizens by not allowing  them to marry?…oh, wait...

You’re equating gay marriage to being stoned to death because of the way you were born?

Now THAT is some mental gymnastics!

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:21pm:

rabbitoh08 wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:17pm: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:13pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:57am: Refugees or Illegals? Your flip flopping on language is confusing. People who flee persecution via boats, are they refugees now, or still illegals in your book. How about banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to stone gays? At least there is some reasoning behind that.  How about also banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to treat gays as 2nd class citizens by not allowing  them to marry?…oh, wait... You’re equating gay marriage to being stoned to death because of the way you were born? Now THAT is some mental gymnastics!

No - I am equating bigotry with bigotry.

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:19pm:

____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:15pm: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:13pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:57am: Refugees or Illegals? Your flip flopping on language is confusing. People who flee persecution via boats, are they refugees now, or still illegals in your book. How about banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to stone gays? So gays in these countries can't flee persecution. Are you homophobic? Who said anything about people fleeing? This whole "hand full of extremists" is a load of crap. Why can't you people admit it?

You said to stop intake from these countries.
Gee, can't you hold a position more than 30 seconds. Intake includes refugees fleeing persecution from those countries.

while were at it, can we refuse the intake of idiots? Or better yet, can we remove those already here? I've got a few candidates in mind.

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:20pm:

what good would that do??????....do people have a tattoo that says I am Muslim.....

Exactly, cods.

Makes me think of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lN4TSslz-0

"Muslim"?
"Er, no ... "Im a Christian".
"Oh, very good ... in you come then?"

____ wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:24pm:

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:19pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:15pm: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:13pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:57am: Refugees or Illegals? Your flip flopping on language is confusing. People who flee persecution via boats, are they refugees now, or still illegals in your book. How about banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to stone gays? So gays in these countries can't flee persecution. Are you homophobic? Who said anything about people fleeing? This whole "hand full of extremists" is a load of crap. Why can't you people admit it? You said to stop intake from these countries. Gee, can't you hold a position more than 30 seconds. Intake includes refugees fleeing persecution from those countries.

Yep....and?

You don't care if we might import people that want to stove your dumb head in becuase your gay? Interesting.

Stop the intake?, no, but perhaps it's time to look at deporting the ones who indoctrinate people in to extremists groups, and the ones who get indoctrinated.

(And before you all start screaming, I don't limit that just to Islam).

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 11:44am:

Should we end the refugee intake of Muslims, or at least suspend it for some time?

How about ONE more option, armie?
"Only when we end the intake of all other religious followers."
Or similar...

;)

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:28pm:

____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:24pm: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:19pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:15pm: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:13pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:57am: Refugees or Illegals? Your flip flopping on language is confusing. People who flee persecution via boats, are they refugees now, or still illegals in your book. How about banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to stone gays? So gays in these countries can't flee persecution. Are you homophobic? Who said anything about people fleeing? This whole "hand full of extremists" is a load of crap. Why can't you people admit it? You said to stop intake from these countries. Gee, can't you hold a position more than 30 seconds. Intake includes refugees fleeing persecution from those countries. Yep....and? You don't care if we might import people that want to stove your dumb head in becuase your gay? Interesting.

You mean christians?

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:20pm:

what good would that do??????....do people have a tattoo that says I am Muslim....how about paedophiles....can we ban them.. I am sure they wear a tattoo  ::) ::) spelling it all out... what about banning all Yorkshiremen or maybe people born in Alabama  ::) ::) ::) why do you tar all with the one brush????????...

Good one, cods....
You'll make it to my side of the fence, yet.....

:)

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:28pm:

____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:24pm: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:19pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:15pm: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:13pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:57am: Refugees or Illegals? Your flip flopping on language is confusing. People who flee persecution via boats, are they refugees now, or still illegals in your book. How about banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to stone gays? So gays in these countries can't flee persecution. Are you homophobic? Who said anything about people fleeing? This whole "hand full of extremists" is a load of crap. Why can't you people admit it? You said to stop intake from these countries. Gee, can't you hold a position more than 30 seconds. Intake includes refugees fleeing persecution from those countries. Yep....and? You don't care if we might import people that want to stove your dumb head in becuase your gay? Interesting.

If we import front bottoms who do that, he'll have some cases of "homophobia" to complain about, and theres nothing leftists like more than complaining.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:28pm:

Stop the intake?, no, but perhaps it's time to look at deporting the ones who indoctrinate people in to extremists groups, and the ones who get indoctrinated. (And before you all start screaming, I don't limit that just to Islam).

well we do do that... but it takes forever and a day...

and our legals are all over it...

Oh, yeah, hmm, you can kiss goodbye our live/ meat export to middle east, and indonesia then.   And that's only the tip of the iceberg.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:28pm:

Stop the intake?, no, but perhaps it's time to look at deporting the ones who indoctrinate people in to extremists groups, and the ones who get indoctrinated. (And before you all start screaming, I don't limit that just to Islam).

Quote:

............deporting the ones who indoctrinate people in to extremists groups.....

I believe that is now a law. Very much too late.

these problems only come from islam.

____ wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:15pm:

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:13pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:57am: Refugees or Illegals? Your flip flopping on language is confusing. People who flee persecution via boats, are they refugees now, or still illegals in your book. How about banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to stone gays? So gays in these countries can't flee persecution. Are you homophobic?

Are you daft? Does the previous comment not illustrate a non-homophobic stance?

____ wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:34pm:

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:28pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:24pm: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:19pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:15pm: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:13pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:57am: Refugees or Illegals? Your flip flopping on language is confusing. People who flee persecution via boats, are they refugees now, or still illegals in your book. How about banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to stone gays? So gays in these countries can't flee persecution. Are you homophobic? Who said anything about people fleeing? This whole "hand full of extremists" is a load of crap. Why can't you people admit it? You said to stop intake from these countries. Gee, can't you hold a position more than 30 seconds. Intake includes refugees fleeing persecution from those countries. Yep....and? You don't care if we might import people that want to stove your dumb head in becuase your gay? Interesting. You mean christians?

Which religion perpetrated the largest mass murder act of terror in the history of mankind? That's right - Islam, on September 11 when they killed more than 3,000 people in a matter of minutes.

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:20pm:

why do you tar all with the one brush????????...

Because they are all Carriers. They all subscribe to the same religion ~ a religion that is strongly identified the world over with social dysfunction, violence, fanaticism, criminality, voluntary unemployment on the dole ... etc.

They are infected with a noxious virus that at any moment can explode into what we've been witnessing in Sydney.

If he'd been an Iranian Christian none of this would have happened.

Did you ever dress like 'exposed cat-meat', codsey? Do your shopping at the local supermarket in a revealing mini-skirt while wearing a pair of D-sized bras that seemed to have a life of their own?

Did you ever sun-bathe at Cronulla beach in something less than a full-body suit?

You know the rest.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:28pm:

Stop the intake?, no, but perhaps it's time to look at deporting the ones who indoctrinate people in to extremists groups, and the ones who get indoctrinated. (And before you all start screaming, I don't limit that just to Islam).

Keep 'em coming.

Abbott has just opened the gates a little wider to allow an increase of 7000 per year more. Good thinking. The Clever Country.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:46pm:

If he'd been an Iranian Christian none of this would have happened.

Another criminal apologist.

"If it wasn't for Islam, he'd be a completely sane, law-abiding citizen".

They're coming out of the woodwork today.

It's hard to findany

It's hard to findany value Moslems bring to oz.  Kebab shops are nice and all, but are hardly specialised.  Nor do they offset even 10% of the number of previously fresh and tasty food outlets that have become inedible after being bought by moslems.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:46pm:

Which religion perpetrated the largest mass murder act of terror in the history of mankind? .

History's not your forte is it armpit? Actually, I've yet to find as subject that is your forte ...

Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes: between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near Altenesch/Germany.

Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235]

;D ;D ;D

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Which religion perpetrated the largest mass murder act of terror in the history of mankind?

I dont know.  The Jewish holocaust got to be more than 3000 right?  And at the time, they were represented by their catholic faith.  But I rather say, Nazism is a kind of pseudo religious movement at the time. 

If you talk about single acts of mass killing.  Well, the nuclear bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed far far more than 3000.   And we can safely say that during that time, the predominant religion in USA is Christianity. 

Why can't we bring in some Germans. I don't even mind Chinese. Why bring in stinking Iranians and people from that craphole part of the world? That's like filling your country up with problems. Let's be serious about it.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:46pm:

____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:34pm: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:28pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:24pm: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:19pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:15pm: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:13pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:57am: Refugees or Illegals? Your flip flopping on language is confusing. People who flee persecution via boats, are they refugees now, or still illegals in your book. How about banning the intake of people from countries that think it's Ok to stone gays? So gays in these countries can't flee persecution. Are you homophobic? Who said anything about people fleeing? This whole "hand full of extremists" is a load of crap. Why can't you people admit it? You said to stop intake from these countries. Gee, can't you hold a position more than 30 seconds. Intake includes refugees fleeing persecution from those countries. Yep....and? You don't care if we might import people that want to stove your dumb head in becuase your gay? Interesting. You mean christians? Which religion perpetrated the largest mass murder act of terror in the history of mankind? That's right - Islam, on September 11 when they killed more than 3,000 people in a matter of minutes.

"No one expected the spanish inquisition. "

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Why can't we bring in some Germans. I don't even mind Chinese. Why bring in stinking Iranians and people from that craphole part of the world? That's like filling your country up with problems. Let's be serious about it.

I disagree, it depends on the person.  We have family friends who are Iranians, who are doctors, nurses, and Muslim ADF members.  At the same time, we know criminals from all sorts of backgrounds.   We should not judge people from their background, it is divisive, its short sighted, and it is childish. 

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:06pm:

I disagree, it depends on the person.  We have family friends who are Iranians, who are doctors, nurses, and Muslim ADF members.  At the same time, we know criminals from all sorts of backgrounds.   We should not judge people from their background, it is divisive, its short sighted, and it is childish.

About darn time someone said something sensible.

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:06pm:

Re Quote: Why can't we bring in some Germans. I don't even mind Chinese. Why bring in stinking Iranians and people from that craphole part of the world? That's like filling your country up with problems. Let's be serious about it. I disagree, it depends on the person.  We have family friends who are Iranians, who are doctors, nurses, and Muslim ADF members.  At the same time, we know criminals from all sorts of backgrounds.   We should not judge people from their background, it is divisive, its short sighted, and it is childish.

Why is there a middle eastern crime squad then?

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Why is there a middle eastern crime squad then?

Well, I am going to let you in on a secret okay? ..... But.... dont tell any of your friends..... Well, there are also people from middle eastern background working in the middle eastern crime squad.   ;) ;) ;)

Anyway, Rocketanski - you need to do a little bit of research first.  Its not too hard.  First, find out how many people that Middle East Crime squad have investigated, and then divide it against the number of people from middle eastern background that currently live in Australia.  And get back to us with it.   If your number is exceptionally high, like 50%, then I will fully agree with you.   ;) 

Oh, on the other hand, even if you get a number around 10%, would do as well - a little bit of concession just for you.   ;)

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:31pm:

Well, there are also people from middle eastern background working in the middle eastern crime squad.

That's why it's called the "middle eastern" crime squad
;D

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:31pm:

re Quote: Why is there a middle eastern crime squad then? Well, I am going to let you in on a secret okay? ..... But.... dont tell any of your friends..... Well, there are also people from middle eastern background working in the middle eastern crime squad.   ;) ;) ;) Anyway, Rocketanski - you need to do a little bit of research first.  Its not too hard.  First, find out how many people that Middle East Crime squad have investigated, and then divide it against the number of people from middle eastern background that currently live in Australia.  And get back to us with it.   If your number is exceptionally high, like 50%, then I will fully agree with you.   ;)  Oh, on the other hand, even if you get a number around 10%, would do as well - a little bit of concession just for you.   ;)

Why is it that certain religious groups and ethnicities have come out here and prospered. Every group does some crime but very limited. Yet muslims have only been here in numbers since the 70's yet we've had riots, murders, terrorism offences, car re-birthing, gang rapes etc etc etc etc. So much so that they have their own crime squad. WHY???

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:46pm: If he'd been an Iranian Christian none of this would have happened. Another criminal apologist. "If it wasn't for Islam, he'd be a completely sane, law-abiding citizen". They're coming out of the woodwork today.

However, it is kind of true. Although perhaps not the 'sane' part, but psycho Christian extremists don't usually take hostages or go in for mass killings on God's instruction.

John Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 12:56pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:46pm: Which religion perpetrated the largest mass murder act of terror in the history of mankind? . History's not your forte is it armpit? Actually, I've yet to find as subject that is your forte ... Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes: between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near Altenesch/Germany. Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235] ;D ;D ;D

And here was me thinking it was only the Crusaders with a penchant for mass slaughter....

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:52pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:46pm: If he'd been an Iranian Christian none of this would have happened. Another criminal apologist. "If it wasn't for Islam, he'd be a completely sane, law-abiding citizen". They're coming out of the woodwork today. However, it is kind of true. Although perhaps not the 'sane' part, but psycho Christian extremists don't usually take hostages or go in for mass killings on God's instruction.

You're making excuses for criminals.

Apologist.

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:06pm:

Re Quote: Why can't we bring in some Germans. I don't even mind Chinese. Why bring in stinking Iranians and people from that craphole part of the world? That's like filling your country up with problems. Let's be serious about it. I disagree, it depends on the person.  We have family friends who are Iranians, who are doctors, nurses, and Muslim ADF members.  At the same time, we know criminals from all sorts of backgrounds.   We should not judge people from their background, it is divisive, its short sighted, and it is childish.

As are the bigots on here....

;D

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Why is it that certain religious groups and ethnicities have come out here and prospered. Every group does some crime but very limited. Yet muslims have only been here in numbers since the 70's yet we've had riots, murders, terrorism offences, car re-birthing, gang rapes etc etc etc etc. So much so that they have their own crime squad. WHY???

Well, of course, sure sure.  But, you still have not provided me with any statistical evidence.  You kept saying 'muslim' and 'they', as if they are kind of collective individual.  So, if you want to convince the others, then put some effort in and work out that ratio I asked you to do earlier.   If you can not do that, then, your views are simply short sighted, unfounded and childish.

Please Rocketanski , I cant make it any easier for you, I have told you the way in which you can win this argument.   ;)

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:35pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 1:31pm: re Quote: Why is there a middle eastern crime squad then? Well, I am going to let you in on a secret okay? ..... But.... dont tell any of your friends..... Well, there are also people from middle eastern background working in the middle eastern crime squad.   ;) ;) ;) Anyway, Rocketanski - you need to do a little bit of research first.  Its not too hard.  First, find out how many people that Middle East Crime squad have investigated, and then divide it against the number of people from middle eastern background that currently live in Australia.  And get back to us with it.   If your number is exceptionally high, like 50%, then I will fully agree with you.   ;)  Oh, on the other hand, even if you get a number around 10%, would do as well - a little bit of concession just for you.   ;) Why is it that certain religious groups and ethnicities have come out here and prospered. (Catholics and Anglican churches have done quite well.) Every group does some crime but very limited. Yet muslims have only been here in numbers since the 70's yet we've had riots, (Eureka Stockade/Vinegar Hill) murders, (Yep, murder free zone in Aus before then.) terrorism offences, (Ananda Marga, anyone?) car re-birthing, (All those FX and FJ Holdens, among others, being nicked and having the engine numbers and Compliance Plates changed must be an Urban Legend.) gang rapes (Murphy brothers, Jamieson and crew.) etc etc etc etc. (Etc, etc, etc, etc.) So much so that they have their own crime squad. WHY???

Yep!!
Pretty quiet sort of place before then....

;D ;D

No - but we should carefully monitor the undesirables and revoke their diblomadic immunidy and czidizenzhib.....

THOSE are the people who should be living on Maniacus Island awaiting processing.....

No!

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:35pm:

Why is it that certain religious groups and ethnicities have come out here and prospered. Every group does some crime but very limited. Yet muslims have only been here in numbers since the 70's yet we've had riots, murders, terrorism offences, car re-birthing, gang rapes etc etc etc etc. So much so that they have their own crime squad. WHY???

;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D

pull your head out of your arse and open your eyes .

we've had all sort of crime gangs, from many different groups and ethnicities .... you're just remember the middle eastern ones because you're a bigot.

Does anyone remember the honky squad?

... wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 6:49pm:

Does anyone remember the honky squad?

Was this their chief?

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