Many dead and injured in Taliban attack on Pakistan school

At least 100 people, mostly children, have been killed in a Taliban assault on an army-run school in the Pakistani city of Peshawar, officials say.

Five or six militants wearing security uniforms entered the school, officials said. Gunfire and explosions were heard as security forces surrounded the area.

A Taliban spokesman said the assault was in response to army operations.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30491084

You lot supported Australia fighting the Taliban. Then you lot supported the Taliban governing Afghanistan.

Are the Taliban still goodies ... or are they now baddies. And if they are baddies, whats next?

"Then you lot supported the Taliban governing Afghanistan."

Are you RETARDED ?

Australia withdrew knowing the Taliban were to be part of the Afghanistan government.

Taliban likely escalating attacks in Afghanistan to gain leverage in peace talks with Kabul government

http://www.janes.com/article/46517/taliban-likely-escalating-attacks-in-afghanistan-to-gain-leverage-in-peace-talks-with-kabul-government



It was obvious the hard right supported Australia cut and running from Afghanistan since the Taliban was on track to attain government.



The big question now is where do the hard right stand on the Taliban.

____ wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:10pm:

Many dead and injured in Taliban attack on Pakistan school At least 100 people, mostly children, have been killed in a Taliban assault on an army-run school in the Pakistani city of Peshawar, officials say. Five or six militants wearing security uniforms entered the school, officials said. Gunfire and explosions were heard as security forces surrounded the area. A Taliban spokesman said the assault was in response to army operations. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30491084 You lot supported Australia fighting the Taliban. Then you lot supported the Taliban governing Afghanistan. Are the Taliban still goodies ... or are they now baddies. And if they are baddies, whats next?

Greenie, why don't you just crawl back under your rock and bugger some more beetles.

____ wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:22pm:

Australia withdrew knowing the Taliban were to be part of the Afghanistan government. Taliban likely escalating attacks in Afghanistan to gain leverage in peace talks with Kabul government It was obvious the hard right supported Australia cut and running from Afghanistan since the Taliban was on track to attain government. The big question now is where do the hard right stand on the Taliban.

Probably on their head.

crocodile wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:27pm:

____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:10pm: Many dead and injured in Taliban attack on Pakistan school At least 100 people, mostly children, have been killed in a Taliban assault on an army-run school in the Pakistani city of Peshawar, officials say. Five or six militants wearing security uniforms entered the school, officials said. Gunfire and explosions were heard as security forces surrounded the area. A Taliban spokesman said the assault was in response to army operations. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30491084 You lot supported Australia fighting the Taliban. Then you lot supported the Taliban governing Afghanistan. Are the Taliban still goodies ... or are they now baddies. And if they are baddies, whats next? Greenie, why don't you just crawl back under your rock and bugger some more beetles.

I am curious on where you lot stand on the Taliban since you guys want to warmonger in the middle east, yet seem to have dropped the ball on the Taliban.

Are the Taliban goodies now ... like the Mujahideen where when they were fighting the Ruskies.

jackmountain wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:22pm: Australia withdrew knowing the Taliban were to be part of the Afghanistan government. Taliban likely escalating attacks in Afghanistan to gain leverage in peace talks with Kabul government It was obvious the hard right supported Australia cut and running from Afghanistan since the Taliban was on track to attain government. The big question now is where do the hard right stand on the Taliban. Probably on their head.

How can you do that when you have run away?

____ wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:35pm:

jackmountain wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:31pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:22pm: Australia withdrew knowing the Taliban were to be part of the Afghanistan government. Taliban likely escalating attacks in Afghanistan to gain leverage in peace talks with Kabul government It was obvious the hard right supported Australia cut and running from Afghanistan since the Taliban was on track to attain government. The big question now is where do the hard right stand on the Taliban. Probably on their head. How can you do that when you have run away?

No one ran away what are you babbling about ?

jackmountain wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:35pm: jackmountain wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:31pm: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:22pm: Australia withdrew knowing the Taliban were to be part of the Afghanistan government. Taliban likely escalating attacks in Afghanistan to gain leverage in peace talks with Kabul government It was obvious the hard right supported Australia cut and running from Afghanistan since the Taliban was on track to attain government. The big question now is where do the hard right stand on the Taliban. Probably on their head. How can you do that when you have run away? No one ran away what are you babbling about ?

Seems you are the one babbling.

Where do hard righters currently flop on the Taliban?
Are they terrorists that can be tolerated since Australia were defeated by them.

Australia cuts and runs from Afghanistan

Australia is cutting and running from Afghanistan, along with the US.


Brothers in arms

Abbott and Shorten, in their joint and brotherly trip to the forces withdrawing from Afghanistan, dressed it up in the usual bullshit about valiant fighters.  My guess is the Taliban will be back in the saddle soon enough, perhaps with the support of various warlords.

So what did the $7 billion, 40 dead Australians, 260 seriously injured and the deaths and injuries of thousands of Afghans achieve?

Nothing. It has ended in defeat but our ruling class won’t tell you that. They have to perpetuate the myth of brave Australian soldiers defending freedom for their future imperialist expeditions.

The history of Australia as a white colonial settler state has been first the dispossession and genocide committed against the original inhabitants, dispossession and genocide which continues today.

The second limb has been Australian capitalism’s lockstep with the major imperialist power of the time, the UK initially and since World War II the United States.

Each of our military adventures has been a foreign invasion with big brother. We are the invaders, not the liberators.

The invasion of Afghanistan was US imperialism’s response to the humiliation of 9/11.

Overthrowing the Taliban, who were in fact prepared to hand over bin Laden if he were tried in a Muslim country, was symbolic of US strength, couched in terms of fighting terrorism.

It had nothing to do with terrorism and everything to do with containing China. The threat to US global power is not Al-Qaeda; it is Chinese imperialism.

Australia followed the US into Afghanistan not because it is a lapdog of the US. It serves the interests of Australian capitalism to do that. The power of the US and the insurance policy of ANZUS lays the framework for the expansion of Australian power in the region.

The US pivot to Asia increases the power of the Australian ruling class in the region, or so our one percent thinks.  This means the price of insurance – sacrificing a few working class kids in the battlefields of some foreign country – is a small one for the Australian ruling class to pay for the consolidation of its regional power and further cementing its close relationship with the major terrorist power on the globe, US imperialism.

The myth of brave freedom fighting Aussie soldiers is about continuing the flow of working class kids into the professional killing machine of Australian capitalism. So while there might be some more serious analysis in the Department of Foreign Affairs and sections of academia, the lies of glorious war are force fed into the Australian working class.

Yet the reality is the Taliban and other resistance fighters have defeated the US and its allies. They will leave without having achieved any of their supposed goals of democracy, women’s liberation and the other lies offered to disguise the reality of imperialist invasion and war crimes.

We cannot predict what will happen when the US leaves but one thing is clear. The US has not defeated the Taliban and it will play a major role in post-invasion Afghanistan. Not only that but the invasion has strengthened the Taliban in Pakistan and any peace settlement there will involve them as the legitimate rulers of areas they currently run.

The US assassination of Hakimullah Mehsu, an attempt to derail the peace discussions,  may only strengthen the hand of the Taliban.  It will harden the Taliban in the direction of both more individual terrorism in Pakistan but also consolidation of its control of major areas of Pakistan and the use of those bases to encroach further into government areas.  Eventually the Pakistan government will begin negotiations again, perhaps with the Pakistan Taliban in a more powerful position than now.

And what message does the disaster in Afghanistan send to China? Certainly not one of an all powerful US military able to impose its will on the world. The failure of the US’s Afghan strategy has shown its weakness and possibly emboldened the Chinese ruling class to flex its muscles in the region.

The US has achieved none of its objectives in invading Afghanistan.

We need to be clear. Afghanistan is a defeat for US and Australian imperialism.

http://enpassant.com.au/2013/11/03/australia-cuts-and-runs-from-afghanistan/

No one cut and run they just went home. Were not there to run the damn country nice person.

Too many people want handouts.

jackmountain wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:56pm:

No one cut and run they just went home. Were not there to run the damn country nice person. Too many people want handouts.

They were defeated and thats why the hard right are ignoring current Taliban atrocities. Why else would hard righters be so silent.   

____ wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 10:00pm:

jackmountain wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:56pm: No one cut and run they just went home. Were not there to run the damn country nice person. Too many people want handouts. They were defeated and thats why the hard right are ignoring current Taliban atrocities. Why else would hard righters be so silent.

Maybe its none of their beeswax,

jackmountain wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 10:08pm:

____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 10:00pm: jackmountain wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:56pm: No one cut and run they just went home. Were not there to run the damn country nice person. Too many people want handouts. They were defeated and thats why the hard right are ignoring current Taliban atrocities. Why else would hard righters be so silent.    Maybe its none of their beeswax,

Because US foreign policy ignores it, hard righters here ignore it.

The Taliban were never defeated, they were just lying low, waiting for the yanks to go home. They will rise to power again. What a waste of ten years of war that was.

That's it, what do "hard righters" think?

What do you think about the slaughter of 100 little kids in Pakistan, where little girls are shot for going to school?

What a dispicable person you are.

am I a YOU LOT..

or am I a HARD RIGHTER...

eenie meenie minee moe...

I will have to sive that some thought..

I am thinking it means anyone who doesnt agree with greenwin... who prefers seeing children drown or smashed on rocks.. to having the blow up...

its funny how some can ignore children being smashed on rocks before their very eyes....yet get all huffy puffy about a school being blown up ....that is a basic happening in these 3rd world countries....

just out of interest.. I googled taliban bombs school.. heres what came up..

https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=taliban%20bomb%20school



this isnt a first greenwin....btw werent you against any interference in ANY WAR..

are you not the party that believes turning a blind eye will make all these nasty people..

PEOPLE NICE PEOPLE? >:( >:(

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 6:45am:

That's it, what do "hard righters" think? What do you think about the slaughter of 100 little kids in Pakistan, where little girls are shot for going to school? What a dispicable person you are.

remember Nelson when he put his telescope to his blind eye..

that greenswin... he has so forgotten the babies he watched drown on their way to Australia...and not a word.........he just put his telescope to his blind eye and didnt see a thing.. ::) ::)

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 6:45am:

That's it, what do "hard righters" think? What do you think about the slaughter of 100 little kids in Pakistan, where little girls are shot for going to school? What a dispicable person you are.

Once again a hard righter attacking a poster.
I accept your white flag.

____ wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 7:02am:

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 6:45am: That's it, what do "hard righters" think? What do you think about the slaughter of 100 little kids in Pakistan, where little girls are shot for going to school? What a dispicable person you are. Once again a hard righter attacking a poster. I accept your white flag.

you didnt answer his question though did you.. just another swerve  ;D ;D ;D

cods wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 6:53am:

am I a YOU LOT.. or am I a HARD RIGHTER... eenie meenie minee moe... I will have to sive that some thought.. I am thinking it means anyone who doesnt agree with greenwin... who prefers seeing children drown or smashed on rocks.. to having the blow up... its funny how some can ignore children being smashed on rocks before their very eyes....yet get all huffy puffy about a school being blown up ....that is a basic happening in these 3rd world countries.... just out of interest.. I googled taliban bombs school.. heres what came up.. https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=taliban%20bomb%20school this isnt a first greenwin....btw werent you against any interference in ANY WAR.. are you not the party that believes turning a blind eye will make all these nasty people.. PEOPLE NICE PEOPLE? >:( >:(

People fleeing persecution take risks and is different than children being gunned down.

Hard righters wanted blood spilt over IS in the middle east yet are silent on atrocities committed by the Taliban.

Is it because hard righters are scared of the Taliban?

cods wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 7:04am:

____ wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 7:02am: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 6:45am: That's it, what do "hard righters" think? What do you think about the slaughter of 100 little kids in Pakistan, where little girls are shot for going to school? What a dispicable person you are. Once again a hard righter attacking a poster. I accept your white flag. you didnt answer his question though did you.. just another swerve  ;D ;D ;D

I think it's weird that the muslim hating hard right haven't demanded the spilling of young Australian's blood over this.

I am wondering if the Hard Right have learnt any lessons since their last stint in the region?

____ wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 7:09am:

cods wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 7:04am: ____ wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 7:02am: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 6:45am: That's it, what do "hard righters" think? What do you think about the slaughter of 100 little kids in Pakistan, where little girls are shot for going to school? What a dispicable person you are. Once again a hard righter attacking a poster. I accept your white flag. you didnt answer his question though did you.. just another swerve  ;D ;D ;D I think it's weird that the muslim hating hard right haven't demanded the spilling of young Australian's blood over this. I am wondering if the Hard Right have learnt any lessons since their last stint in the region?

The buggers have started up again.

Will it be back to Afghanistan, just like Iraq? Come on.....pull the troops out of Iraq, they're needed in Afghanistan.

I'm getting dizzy, we're going round in circles.

Who'd have thunk it? The Taliban firing up again.

____ wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 7:09am:

cods wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 7:04am: ____ wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 7:02am: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 6:45am: That's it, what do "hard righters" think? What do you think about the slaughter of 100 little kids in Pakistan, where little girls are shot for going to school? What a dispicable person you are. Once again a hard righter attacking a poster. I accept your white flag. you didnt answer his question though did you.. just another swerve  ;D ;D ;D I think it's weird that the muslim hating hard right haven't demanded the spilling of young Australian's blood over this. I am wondering if the Hard Right have learnt any lessons since their last stint in the region?

dont recall the HARDRIGHT BEING IN PAKISTAN>>when was that?...

still havent answered the question though have you.. ;D ;D

is it better to watch babies drown???????....like the greens do...

a simple question...you claim HARD RIGHTIES whoever they are,do nothing about children getting blown up..

what did you do to stop bab ies being drowned....

thats right bugger all..in fact you were deadset against stopping the boats......you love them

I think I have also mentioned you wont let us go to WAR you screamed all the time about our involvement in Afghan.....so what would you have the HARDRIGHTIES DO ABOUT THIS???????..

got the telescope handy????

cods wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 7:25am:

____ wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 7:09am: cods wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 7:04am: ____ wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 7:02am: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 6:45am: That's it, what do "hard righters" think? What do you think about the slaughter of 100 little kids in Pakistan, where little girls are shot for going to school? What a dispicable person you are. Once again a hard righter attacking a poster. I accept your white flag. you didnt answer his question though did you.. just another swerve  ;D ;D ;D I think it's weird that the muslim hating hard right haven't demanded the spilling of young Australian's blood over this. I am wondering if the Hard Right have learnt any lessons since their last stint in the region? dont recall the HARDRIGHT BEING IN PAKISTAN>>when was that?... still havent answered the question though have you.. ;D ;D is it better to watch babies drown???????....like the greens do... a simple question...you claim HARD RIGHTIES whoever they are,do nothing about children getting blown up.. what did you do to stop bab ies being drowned.... thats right bugger all..in fact you were deadset against stopping the boats......you love them I think I have also mentioned you wont let us go to WAR you screamed all the time about our involvement in Afghan.....so what would you have the HARDRIGHTIES DO ABOUT THIS???????.. got the telescope handy????

This thread is called "where do hard righters stand on this"

Not where do the logical and well balanced progressive left wingers stand on this.

if you want to know where the logical, well balanced progressive lefties stand, start another thread.

Well balanced leftie here...... keep out of Middle Eastern wars that don't have any impact on us whatsoever.....and.....have more humane asylum seeker policies.

As far as drownings at sea, that's the risk people take when seeking asylum. I would do the same. Most asylum seekers that came here by boat and been settled here have said the same. They would take the risk again. Life is a risk. It's a lottery, some win, some don't, but I would never deny them the opportunity to try.

Our troops have been in Afghanistan for over a decade yet, according to Greens Win, Australians support the Taliban. Did I miss something?

____ wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 10:00pm:

jackmountain wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:56pm: No one cut and run they just went home. Were not there to run the damn country nice person. Too many people want handouts. They were defeated and thats why the hard right are ignoring current Taliban atrocities. Why else would hard righters be so silent.

it's up to afghanistan to run their own country.
if problems from there come out here, we have a right and obligation to see that it does not recur.

islam is the problem

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 10:36am:

____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 10:00pm: jackmountain wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:56pm: No one cut and run they just went home. Were not there to run the damn country nice person. Too many people want handouts. They were defeated and thats why the hard right are ignoring current Taliban atrocities. Why else would hard righters be so silent.    it's up to afghanistan to run their own country. if problems from there come out here, we have a right and obligation to see that it does not recur. islam is the problem

Does that attitude also apply to Syria?

____ wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:22pm:

Australia withdrew knowing the Taliban were to be part of the Afghanistan government. Taliban likely escalating attacks in Afghanistan to gain leverage in peace talks with Kabul government http://www.janes.com/article/46517/taliban-likely-escalating-attacks-in-afghanistan-to-gain-leverage-in-peace-talks-with-kabul-government It was obvious the hard right supported Australia cut and running from Afghanistan since the Taliban was on track to attain government. The big question now is where do the hard right stand on the Taliban.

On their throats, one would hope... >:(

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 7:36am:

Well balanced leftie here...... keep out of Middle Eastern wars that don't have any impact on us whatsoever.....and.....have more humane asylum seeker policies. As far as drownings at sea, that's the risk people take when seeking asylum. I would do the same. Most asylum seekers that came here by boat and been settled here have said the same. They would take the risk again. Life is a risk. It's a lottery, some win, some don't, but I would never deny them the opportunity to try.

Totally concur.

Faced with a choice between the remote chance of drowning if I left, and the very un-remote likelihood of
being shot, blown-up, tortured etc if I remained, it would certainly be a risk I'd be prepared to take.

The Right don't seem to grasp this, nor can they grasp the fact that, if they are denied access to Aus on the
spurious basis that 'we're stopping them from drowning on their way here', then they'll simply go and drown
on their way to somewhere else. But then, the Right are perfectly OK with that, because then they're 'some-
one else's problem'.

>:( >:( >:( >:(

Kat wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 11:35am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 7:36am: Well balanced leftie here...... keep out of Middle Eastern wars that don't have any impact on us whatsoever.....and.....have more humane asylum seeker policies. As far as drownings at sea, that's the risk people take when seeking asylum. I would do the same. Most asylum seekers that came here by boat and been settled here have said the same. They would take the risk again. Life is a risk. It's a lottery, some win, some don't, but I would never deny them the opportunity to try. Totally concur. Faced with a choice between the remote chance of drowning if I left, and the very un-remote likelihood of being shot, blown-up, tortured etc if I remained, it would certainly be a risk I'd be prepared to take. The Right don't seem to grasp this, nor can they grasp the fact that, if they are denied access to Aus on the spurious basis that 'we're stopping them from drowning on their way here', then they'll simply go and drown on their way to somewhere else. But then, the Right are perfectly OK with that, because then they're 'some- one else's problem'. >:( >:( >:( >:(

So the Asylum Seekers that board boats in Indonesia are being being shot, blown-up, tortured etc by Indonesia?  :(

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 6:07am:

The Taliban were never defeated, they were just lying low, waiting for the yanks to go home. They will rise to power again. What a waste of ten years of war that was.

and you of course are deliriously happy about it.  Your option was to do nothing...  Your kind of idiot caused WW2

Perhaps we should nuke the entire ME.  that is probably the only way to stop the problem.

note to Karnal since you are such an idiot:  the above is a satirical joke.

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:09pm:

Perhaps we should nuke the entire ME.  that is probably the only way to stop the problem. note to Karnal since you are such an idiot:  the above is a satirical joke.

Longie, that suggestion is not as silly as you might think. Muslims hate Jews,  Muslims hate Christians, Muslims even hate other Muslims. Miserable, primitive, humorless bunch of ugly sub-humanoids. A proton dissassemblance might be the best thing...

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

Longie, that suggestion is not as silly as you might think. Muslims hate Jews,  Muslims hate Christians, Muslims even hate other Muslims. Miserable, primitive, humorless bunch of ugly sub-humanoids. A proton dissassemblance might be the best thing...

For decades, perhaps centuries the ME has been a constant scourge for the world and a disaster.  Nothing ever works because most of them are stuck in a culture that hasn't moved on in 1000 years and a religion that is hell-bent (literally) on holding all progress back.

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

Longie, that suggestion is not as silly as you might think. Muslims hate Jews,  Muslims hate Christians, Muslims even hate other Muslims. Miserable, primitive, humorless bunch of ugly sub-humanoids. A proton dissassemblance might be the best thing...

you flatter the inbred aggressors

____ wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 10:51am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 10:36am: ____ wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 10:00pm: jackmountain wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:56pm: No one cut and run they just went home. Were not there to run the damn country nice person. Too many people want handouts. They were defeated and thats why the hard right are ignoring current Taliban atrocities. Why else would hard righters be so silent.    it's up to afghanistan to run their own country. if problems from there come out here, we have a right and obligation to see that it does not recur. islam is the problem Does that attitude also apply to Syria?

yes, islam is the problem

Swagman wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 2:35pm:

Kat wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 11:35am: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 7:36am: Well balanced leftie here...... keep out of Middle Eastern wars that don't have any impact on us whatsoever.....and.....have more humane asylum seeker policies. As far as drownings at sea, that's the risk people take when seeking asylum. I would do the same. Most asylum seekers that came here by boat and been settled here have said the same. They would take the risk again. Life is a risk. It's a lottery, some win, some don't, but I would never deny them the opportunity to try. Totally concur. Faced with a choice between the remote chance of drowning if I left, and the very un-remote likelihood of being shot, blown-up, tortured etc if I remained, it would certainly be a risk I'd be prepared to take. The Right don't seem to grasp this, nor can they grasp the fact that, if they are denied access to Aus on the spurious basis that 'we're stopping them from drowning on their way here', then they'll simply go and drown on their way to somewhere else. But then, the Right are perfectly OK with that, because then they're 'some- one else's problem'. >:( >:( >:( >:( So the Asylum Seekers that board boats in Indonesia are being being shot, blown-up, tortured etc by Indonesia?  :(

Their point of departure is irrelevant.

Kat wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 6:43pm:

Their point of departure is irrelevant

It's relevant to your comment.


Kat wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 11:35am:

Faced with a choice between the remote chance of drowning if I left, and the very un-remote likelihood of being shot, blown-up, tortured etc if I remained, it would certainly be a risk I'd be prepared to take.

Unless Asylum Seekers departing Indonesia are actually being shot, blown-up and tortured by Indonesia why risk drowing from the result of an unseaworthy boat?

That is the crux of the refugee convention.  Protecting people from the evil bad guys chasing you.  If Indonesia got some commie dictator that was doing a Stalin and executing anyone for looking sideways then the boats would be justified.

Fly in, boat out, is not....  :D

____ wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:22pm:

Australia withdrew knowing the Taliban were to be part of the Afghanistan government. Taliban likely escalating attacks in Afghanistan to gain leverage in peace talks with Kabul government janes.com/article/46517/taliban-likely-escalating-attacks-in-afghanistan-to-gain-leverage-in-peace-talks-with-kabul-government It was obvious the hard right supported Australia cut and running from Afghanistan since the Taliban was on track to attain government. The big question now is where do the hard right stand on the Taliban.

I think that you have gone off the rails on this one.

For starters, the Pakistani Taliban is a completely different group to the Afghan Taliban.

It is like UK Labour and the ALP - they both use the term 'Labor' but are not the same group.

The Afghan Taliban have condemned the attack in Pakistan as un-Islamic.

oops the lefties have left the building..... :D

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:09pm:

Perhaps we should nuke the entire ME.  that is probably the only way to stop the problem. note to Karnal since you are such an idiot:  the above is a satirical joke.

It would only take one. Mecca at Ramadan, when they are all doing the washing machine to kiss the meteor rock that mohammed carried over from his paganistic practices before inventing islam.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 5:33pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 4:24pm: Longie, that suggestion is not as silly as you might think. Muslims hate Jews,  Muslims hate Christians, Muslims even hate other Muslims. Miserable, primitive, humorless bunch of ugly sub-humanoids. A proton dissassemblance might be the best thing... you flatter the inbred aggressors

Subhumans, Sprint. Untermenschen.. Aryans, Slavs, Jews, Semitics and tinted subhumans - that’s the hierarchy.

Gas them.

Karnal wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 9:55am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 5:33pm: Rocketanski wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 4:24pm: Longie, that suggestion is not as silly as you might think. Muslims hate Jews,  Muslims hate Christians, Muslims even hate other Muslims. Miserable, primitive, humorless bunch of ugly sub-humanoids. A proton dissassemblance might be the best thing... you flatter the inbred aggressors Subhumans, Sprint. Untermenschen.. Aryans, Slavs, Jews, Semitics and tinted subhumans - that’s the hierarchy. Gas them.

You left out Paki housewives.